Inside Ducati's Insane NEW 2027 SUPERLEGGERA Centenario! All the CARBON FIBER and 248 HP! HOT

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00:00:00Hey, welcome back to the Cycle World Podcast. I'm Mark Hoyer, Editor-in-Chief. I'm with Kevin Cameron, our Technical

00:00:04Editor.

00:00:06We have a special edition today. We're just going to drop this on a Monday because Ducati's revealed the 2027

00:00:13Ducati Superleggera V4 Centenario 100th anniversary.

00:00:20Kind of an unlimited, ultra-exotic superbike. Like, who else is living in this space in motorcycling?

00:00:27I guess maybe Harley did with the 110-inch bagger, you know, with the bagger race bike parts on it,

00:00:36but it's not quite as a step this far, I guess.

00:00:41We have a carbon fiber fork from Ohlins, lightened suspension from Ohlins, both ends.

00:00:48I think the fork is something on the order of 34% lighter than your conventional, you know, aluminum upper.

00:00:56Those metal tubes are such a bludgeon. Imagine that in a bar fight.

00:01:03Yes, indeed. You know, it's, well, when you pick up carbon fiber bodywork, it feels like a potato chip.

00:01:10It's remarkable how much lighter it is than fiberglass.

00:01:14The engine is 225 horse and street trim, and then when you put the fancy Akrabovich pipe on, which is

00:01:21absolutely sneaky and beautiful.

00:01:25It is so sneaky.

00:01:26Yeah, and you get a map.

00:01:28Right, you get the map with it.

00:01:30You know, the abbreviated under-engine exhaust is replaced by serpents going out the rear.

00:01:36It's just titanium serpents. It's gorgeous.

00:01:39The map comes with that, and then Ducati wants you to run the racing super special oil, and that gets

00:01:45you to 247, 250 clean horsepower.

00:01:47Three and a half horsepower from the oil, and the oil is not 98 cents a quart.

00:01:55What is?

00:01:56Water?

00:01:57What is 98 cents a quart?

00:02:01Water, I suppose so.

00:02:03So it's a beautiful, exotic thing, 500 units for the world.

00:02:08We don't know the price yet.

00:02:10It's a 27.

00:02:11I think we're going to live on hype for a while and just enjoy the technicality of it,

00:02:16and then those who can afford it probably aren't thinking that much about the price anyway.

00:02:25What struck you, Kevin, about this kind of when you first looked at it?

00:02:30Well, for years, of course, we've all seen the reveal of new models quoting that the water pump is two

00:02:44ounces lighter and what have you.

00:02:45Long list of this.

00:02:47And so lightweighting, as the car people call it, is a constant pastime in the motorcycle business.

00:02:54But I think Ducati have taken it to a new low, at least numerically, because I remember being at the

00:03:08intro of the V4,

00:03:12and they had one on the stand, and the material with it said 142 pounds with the intake system.

00:03:23Now, this engine is supposed to be, what, seven pounds lighter.

00:03:26So to get seven pounds off of something as tightly calculated to purpose as a high-performance engine means that

00:03:40a lot of parts are going to have to be rethought,

00:03:44going to have to say, well, you know, we have this new process that we're putting in for production that

00:03:53can do this more complicated heat treat on castings.

00:03:58So maybe we could go back through, do the dynamic FEA, and see where we could save a bit everywhere.

00:04:09And steel, it sort of hurts to have to use steel in a world in which steel has given way

00:04:19to titanium and titanium to carbon fiber.

00:04:24But, so far, no gearbox shafts made out of CFRP.

00:04:31So what they have to do then is go through and do the things that are done in racing departments,

00:04:39and that is to just turn the shift drum into filigree.

00:04:44So that the metal that's there conducts the stress of pushing the shift forks, click, click, click,

00:04:53to the rolling element bearings on either end of the shift drum.

00:04:57No more plane bearing shift drums these days.

00:05:01Through a minimum of metal.

00:05:03For example, the crankshaft.

00:05:07Ducati crankshafts are not, you wouldn't want to drop it on your foot,

00:05:11but it wouldn't permanently cripple you.

00:05:15The thing is light.

00:05:17And you pick one up and compare it with having done curls with a Triumph Trident crankshaft.

00:05:27No, it's a thing of beauty.

00:05:28I mean, it's just reduced to a little blade, tiny pork chop blades,

00:05:33and very much just, here's the main, or here's the rod,

00:05:38and then thin little blades and little candy bars.

00:05:42Straight to the main shafts, yes.

00:05:43Yeah.

00:05:44And they have, instead of steel counterweights,

00:05:49shaped, you know, the pork chop look.

00:05:52I wish I had some now.

00:05:56What they've done is to put enough steel there to position and keep in place tungsten slugs

00:06:07at a maximum radius so that they get the eye,

00:06:12the moment of inertia that the crankshaft needs,

00:06:15at the minimum investment of weight.

00:06:19So, in that respect, it reminded me of Iramadri's long six-cylinder 250 crank,

00:06:28and the so-called cheeks or webs or flywheels were reduced to narrow candy bars,

00:06:37two tungsten slugs at one end, a crank pin or a hole for one at the other end.

00:06:42Now, of course, this...

00:06:44Yeah, go ahead.

00:06:45Well...

00:06:46Well, I want you to dive into the idea of lightening the crank so much

00:06:53and then concentrating the weight,

00:06:55talking about the way that the inertia works

00:06:57rather than just the mass of the crank statically.

00:07:00Sure.

00:07:01Yes.

00:07:02Well, when you measure the eye, the moment of inertia around its axis of a crankshaft,

00:07:13it is a kind of summing of each element of mass times its distance from center.

00:07:25So, ideally, the counterweights would be this thin layer of tungsten,

00:07:32which is much denser than steel,

00:07:36with just enough steel there to keep the tungsten from flying through the crankcase.

00:07:44And that's essentially what they've done here.

00:07:46They've said, how can we focus, concentrate this mass as far from the center as possible

00:07:53and take away the mass that has just been there to get from here,

00:07:59from the center line, out to where a big blob of steel is located?

00:08:05So, we're going to densify that steel into the tungsten slugs

00:08:09and we're going to leave just enough steel to retain them

00:08:14at a maximum distance from center line

00:08:17so that if you were to hang the crankshaft from a steel wire

00:08:24and wind it up and let go of it,

00:08:27it would ponderously swing back and forth

00:08:35at the same rate as if you had the all-steel crankshaft

00:08:40with the same rotational inertia or eye.

00:08:49So, polar moment.

00:08:51So, this is a way to achieve what a crankshaft must do,

00:08:58which is to carry the engine through compression during idle.

00:09:02If it's not big enough to do that, it's not a practical engine, is it?

00:09:07So, there has to be enough mass there

00:09:11to carry through compression when the engine is on idle

00:09:14or when the rider grabs a handful when the light is showing,

00:09:20the green is fading and the pinkish tinge is showing around the edges.

00:09:24So, this is a way to attenuate the crankshaft,

00:09:32to reduce the mass of the whole motorcycle, by the way,

00:09:37by taking away mass that was underutilized previously.

00:09:42What they're doing now is they have enough mass to hold those tungsten slugs out

00:09:48at a maximum radius where they will do the most good,

00:09:52provide the most flywheel effect without having masses of steel flowing all over the map

00:09:58to act as the counterweight themselves.

00:10:03Now, tungsten counterweights are not new.

00:10:10Cosworth, no, it wasn't Cosworth.

00:10:12It was Coventry Climax.

00:10:17In the very early days, they didn't want to enlarge their crankcase,

00:10:21but they needed more flywheel mass, so they used depleted uranium,

00:10:27which has a density of around 23, I think,

00:10:31whereas steel is 7.8.

00:10:35So, you can see how, if you're trying to put more flywheel effect

00:10:41into a crankcase of fixed size,

00:10:44that you would put tungsten out as far from the center line as you could

00:10:48with enough steel to hold it there so that it doesn't patooey fly out.

00:10:53Well, sir, our mass expectations in daily life, Kevin,

00:10:57don't include depleted uranium,

00:10:59and they usually don't include carbon fiber bodywork

00:11:03or titanium expansion chambers,

00:11:06things that were thrown at me across the shop at Yamaha

00:11:10way back in the day when they were building factory,

00:11:13these one-off Supercross motocross bikes,

00:11:17and a guy in the racing department throwing an expansion chamber,

00:11:21tossing it to me, like, think fast,

00:11:24and all I can think of is,

00:11:26ow, this is going to hurt because I'm a steel guy,

00:11:28and then here's this thing that seems impossibly light.

00:11:31Makes a soft landing in your hand.

00:11:33Just like the bodywork, the fairing on the bag.

00:11:36I had a similar experience at Daytona.

00:11:39He didn't throw it at me, but he said, how about this?

00:11:43He handed me a complete inline-four exhaust system muffler,

00:11:48header pipes, all that stuff.

00:11:52Seven pounds.

00:11:55And so many street bikes, the exhaust system weighs 40 pounds.

00:12:00It does, man.

00:12:02You want to know how to lose 33 pounds of ugly fat?

00:12:07Well, there's plenty of steel,

00:12:09and then they go and put these really high-dense materials,

00:12:11high-density materials, such as platinum, in the cats.

00:12:15So it's not light.

00:12:18Well, there's not much platinum there.

00:12:20It's highly effective, though.

00:12:25So this motorcycle has been gone over in great detail.

00:12:30And to lighten the engine by several pounds,

00:12:34from a weight that is already less than that of the TZ750s,

00:12:42two-strokes, four-cylinder bikes that I used to mess with,

00:12:47their engines weighed 140 pounds.

00:12:50And they seemed pretty ponderous.

00:12:57But what's happening, of course,

00:12:59is that continuing analysis of how best to manage the stresses

00:13:07that the engine produces within itself,

00:13:10using the smallest possible amount of metal,

00:13:13has advanced and continues to advance.

00:13:16And it's the same in aviation.

00:13:21You're trying to work with the good old equation,

00:13:25F, force, equals mass times acceleration.

00:13:29F equals MA.

00:13:32And, or the rocket people like to say,

00:13:36acceleration equals the thrust divided by the mass.

00:13:41So as the mass gets smaller,

00:13:45it divides in more,

00:13:47and A becomes larger,

00:13:49to the point that you,

00:13:51oh, I feel a little oozy here,

00:13:54as your vehicle accelerates.

00:13:56So the motorcycle,

00:14:02the parts,

00:14:03the individual parts of the vehicle,

00:14:05acquire a beauty that is given by nature

00:14:09and is uncovered by humanity.

00:14:13Because essentially,

00:14:14the parts are coming to resemble the stresses they have to carry.

00:14:20And the engine is just a lovely thing to look at.

00:14:23Well, that's just art in a nutshell, isn't it?

00:14:28That's great.

00:14:29Nice.

00:14:30Yeah.

00:14:32The, you know,

00:14:33the usual things,

00:14:34the valves are the same size as before,

00:14:3734 intakes,

00:14:38what is it,

00:14:3827 and a half exhaust.

00:14:39And I think the bunch of other things

00:14:45have been carried forward.

00:14:47So this leaves us with the question,

00:14:51so 225 horsepower,

00:14:52where is it coming from?

00:14:54We hope in the fullness of time

00:14:56that they will be more forthcoming about this.

00:14:59Are there longer cam timings?

00:15:01Maybe not,

00:15:02because how are you going to get that motorcycle

00:15:05past the gray men of Brussels,

00:15:08the European Commission,

00:15:10because it has to meet all those standards

00:15:12to be a roadable motorcycle.

00:15:15So probably not.

00:15:16They haven't increased the overlap timing,

00:15:19which allows intake to just,

00:15:22oh, I'm going out here.

00:15:24Freedom.

00:15:25Out the short-circuiting intake to exhaust.

00:15:30So more compression,

00:15:34faster combustion.

00:15:36What they did say,

00:15:37the Desmond Sedici Stradale R1100 engine

00:15:41features hand-tuned Desmondrovic valve timing.

00:15:44So what does that mean?

00:15:46I mean, is it just set?

00:15:48It means that they didn't line up the marks

00:15:49when they built the engine.

00:15:51That's what it means to me anyway.

00:15:52Because usually,

00:15:54I had a cam grinder tell me that once.

00:15:57I'm telling him,

00:15:59I'm not getting the numbers

00:16:01that are on your cam ticket.

00:16:05And he said,

00:16:05just the line I'm up of the marks.

00:16:10Yeah, well, it's, yeah.

00:16:11Anytime I did that,

00:16:12I was sort of always,

00:16:13you know,

00:16:15I went through the process.

00:16:16I got my dial indicator

00:16:17and did the whole deal

00:16:18and rotated it

00:16:19to where you need to rotate it

00:16:20at whatever lift.

00:16:23And then you're supposed to get that measurement.

00:16:25Big degree wheel.

00:16:26For that precise feeling.

00:16:27And that crank is supposed to be in the position.

00:16:30And then you're like,

00:16:31hmm,

00:16:32well,

00:16:32that's not quite there.

00:16:33And then you go to the exhaust

00:16:34and it's like,

00:16:35well,

00:16:35that's not quite there either.

00:16:37And so then you're left with a question of,

00:16:39well,

00:16:39why is this not right?

00:16:40But they,

00:16:41they kind of seem to ballpark it a lot.

00:16:43As you point out,

00:16:44just put it on the marks,

00:16:45man.

00:16:46And,

00:16:47well,

00:16:48okay.

00:16:49I once stood by

00:16:50while somebody built

00:16:51an Aprilia 250

00:16:52in my shop

00:16:53and he said,

00:16:54look,

00:16:54look at this.

00:16:55Come over here.

00:16:56He said,

00:16:57two pistons

00:16:58don't come to TDC

00:16:59at the same time.

00:17:01Now,

00:17:03Aprilia,

00:17:03I'm sure,

00:17:04knew that.

00:17:05And they also knew

00:17:06that if you were serious,

00:17:08you would arrange

00:17:09for them

00:17:09to hit TDC together.

00:17:11Well,

00:17:12that's the best

00:17:12crankshaft,

00:17:13people,

00:17:14is when you get your crank back

00:17:15and you can set your mic

00:17:16by the diameter

00:17:17of the journals.

00:17:19That they're all the same.

00:17:20And then if you measure stroke,

00:17:22that all the strokes

00:17:23are exactly the same.

00:17:24And when you get

00:17:24a proper crank person,

00:17:26that's what you get.

00:17:28Yep.

00:17:29So,

00:17:30that's probably the meaning

00:17:33as to the,

00:17:34as to the timing.

00:17:35The photograph

00:17:37that shows

00:17:37the combustion chamber

00:17:38does not show

00:17:40a

00:17:40machined shape.

00:17:42It shows

00:17:42a

00:17:43finely cast

00:17:44shape.

00:17:45And there are the valves.

00:17:47And just by looking

00:17:48at them,

00:17:49you can tell

00:17:49this is a water-cooled engine

00:17:51because with Ducati's,

00:17:53the last of Ducati's

00:17:55air-cooled brigade,

00:17:56the exhaust valves

00:17:57are as small

00:17:58as they can be

00:17:59and as far

00:18:00from each other

00:18:00as possible

00:18:01so that it's possible

00:18:02to cool

00:18:03the metal

00:18:04between them.

00:18:05But when you have

00:18:06a water-cooled engine,

00:18:07no problem.

00:18:09Just run the water

00:18:11where the cooling

00:18:11is wanted.

00:18:14Well,

00:18:15this engine

00:18:16has a dry clutch.

00:18:19That means

00:18:20that it is not

00:18:21bathed

00:18:21in the

00:18:23oil,

00:18:24engine oil,

00:18:24that is shared

00:18:25with the gearbox.

00:18:26Most modern motorcycles

00:18:28are built this way.

00:18:31two-stroke bikes

00:18:32of a previous era,

00:18:34the race bikes,

00:18:35you could put

00:18:36actual gear oil

00:18:37in there

00:18:37if the gears

00:18:39were

00:18:41a little

00:18:41weak.

00:18:43But here,

00:18:45you have to put

00:18:46engine oil

00:18:47to lubricate

00:18:48the gears.

00:18:48The clutch

00:18:49itself

00:18:50is

00:18:52outside

00:18:52of the primary

00:18:54cover.

00:18:55and

00:18:55Ducati

00:18:57have done

00:18:57a wonderful thing

00:18:58by putting

00:18:59neutral

00:19:00at the bottom

00:19:01with a lockout

00:19:03once you get

00:19:05moving,

00:19:05which means

00:19:06it is not

00:19:07possible

00:19:08to accidentally

00:19:09stop in neutral

00:19:10when you were

00:19:11going for first

00:19:12or in first

00:19:14going for second

00:19:14because it isn't

00:19:16there.

00:19:17You can't

00:19:18engage it

00:19:18because it isn't

00:19:19there.

00:19:20And we don't

00:19:21need the extra

00:19:22space.

00:19:22We don't need

00:19:23the travel.

00:19:24It's just

00:19:24another gear

00:19:25selection

00:19:26in exactly

00:19:27the same

00:19:29shift movement

00:19:30as the other

00:19:30Yeah, the spacing

00:19:31of the little

00:19:32dents and the

00:19:33detent that holds

00:19:34it in the

00:19:34different ratios.

00:19:35Click, click,

00:19:36click.

00:19:37And then

00:19:38they told us

00:19:39or then

00:19:40they teased

00:19:42a little by

00:19:42saying,

00:19:43and why

00:19:43do we have

00:19:45a dry clutch?

00:19:47Not only

00:19:47because it's

00:19:48very cool

00:19:49and it makes

00:19:50that inimitable

00:19:51jingling noise

00:19:52when you hold

00:19:53the clutch

00:19:53and, oh,

00:19:55dry clutch.

00:19:57Like the

00:19:58old days

00:19:58when the

00:19:59superbike

00:20:00constructors

00:20:01were putting

00:20:01gear drives

00:20:02into their

00:20:03production

00:20:04engines and

00:20:04you could

00:20:05hear it.

00:20:06Anyway, the

00:20:07reason for the

00:20:08dry clutch

00:20:09is that

00:20:11they have

00:20:13a Ducati

00:20:13Corsa,

00:20:14that's Ducati

00:20:15Racing,

00:20:16have a

00:20:17special

00:20:18high-performance

00:20:19oil with

00:20:20friction

00:20:21modifiers

00:20:22which could

00:20:23mean

00:20:23finely

00:20:24divided

00:20:26graphite,

00:20:28molybdenum

00:20:28disulfide,

00:20:30Teflon,

00:20:32various

00:20:35esters

00:20:36which are

00:20:36surface-active,

00:20:38little molecules

00:20:38that stick

00:20:40onto things

00:20:41and are not

00:20:42easily dislodged,

00:20:44three and a half

00:20:44horsepower.

00:20:46Drain out your old

00:20:47oil, pour in

00:20:49the new,

00:20:50possibly more

00:20:50expensive oil

00:20:51and enjoy

00:20:53three extra

00:20:53horsepower.

00:20:54And if your

00:20:55riding is such

00:20:56that you can

00:20:57tell the

00:20:57difference,

00:20:59then I want

00:21:00to see it.

00:21:02But then I

00:21:03ask myself,

00:21:04why are they

00:21:04doing this?

00:21:05Well, one

00:21:05reason could

00:21:06be that the

00:21:08500 lucky

00:21:10people who

00:21:10will probably

00:21:11all will,

00:21:13or the thing

00:21:13will be sold

00:21:14out in 20

00:21:14minutes on

00:21:15the internet

00:21:16and the

00:21:17prices will

00:21:18be high.

00:21:19This money

00:21:20will go a

00:21:20long way

00:21:21to tooling

00:21:24some of

00:21:24this advanced

00:21:26methodology

00:21:27for addition

00:21:29to other

00:21:30products in

00:21:31the future

00:21:31line.

00:21:33It's been

00:21:34a Ducati,

00:21:35you know,

00:21:36it's been

00:21:36their tradition

00:21:36to bring

00:21:37out the

00:21:39next engine,

00:21:41you know,

00:21:41whatever the

00:21:41next engine

00:21:42is going

00:21:42to be,

00:21:43it's always

00:21:43like the

00:21:43last most

00:21:44exotic version

00:21:45of the

00:21:46previous

00:21:46version.

00:21:47And then

00:21:48the new

00:21:48era begins.

00:21:49And so we

00:21:50get a whiff

00:21:50of it.

00:21:50999-R is a

00:21:51great example.

00:21:53That's the

00:21:54Turblanche

00:21:54bodywork,

00:21:55but it has

00:21:56the next

00:21:57engine in

00:21:58it,

00:21:59the great

00:22:00next engine.

00:22:01And,

00:22:02well,

00:22:04you could buy

00:22:04one of those

00:22:05for relatively

00:22:05little money

00:22:06and you're

00:22:06getting quite

00:22:07a motorcycle.

00:22:08It may not

00:22:09visually speak

00:22:10to you in

00:22:11the way that

00:22:11others did

00:22:12before or

00:22:13after,

00:22:13but you're

00:22:14getting a

00:22:15high-quality

00:22:15product there,

00:22:16folks.

00:22:16And so this

00:22:17is a situation

00:22:17where we

00:22:19feel like

00:22:19Ducati's

00:22:20launching its

00:22:21next year

00:22:21and its

00:22:21next engine

00:22:23with this

00:22:24stuff.

00:22:25If you look

00:22:26at one of

00:22:27the side

00:22:27views in

00:22:28the excellent

00:22:28photographs,

00:22:29you will see

00:22:30the engine

00:22:31sump is

00:22:32what I call

00:22:33a dagger

00:22:33sump.

00:22:34It's like

00:22:35a blade

00:22:36that goes

00:22:37down to

00:22:38the lowest

00:22:38part,

00:22:39the lowest

00:22:40point that

00:22:41that can

00:22:41be tolerated

00:22:42and it's

00:22:42not going

00:22:43to hit

00:22:43the ground

00:22:46because what

00:22:46they want

00:22:47is to

00:22:48surround the

00:22:49oil pump

00:22:50pickup with

00:22:52oil even

00:22:53when the

00:22:53motorcycle is

00:22:54on its

00:22:54back tire

00:22:56and the

00:22:57rider is

00:22:57doing crowd

00:23:00interface

00:23:03socializing.

00:23:04Well,

00:23:04any high G,

00:23:05I mean,

00:23:05hard braking

00:23:06anything,

00:23:07you don't want

00:23:07to, you

00:23:08know,

00:23:08when you

00:23:08have these

00:23:08long automotive

00:23:09oil pans,

00:23:10they put

00:23:13one-way

00:23:13flappers in

00:23:14them in

00:23:14addition to

00:23:15having like

00:23:15boxed oil

00:23:17pickups,

00:23:18you know,

00:23:18where they

00:23:18make it

00:23:19harder for

00:23:19it to

00:23:19slosh,

00:23:20they'll

00:23:20actually make

00:23:21trap doors

00:23:21that only

00:23:22work in

00:23:25the direction

00:23:26for hard

00:23:27braking and

00:23:28hard acceleration

00:23:28to keep

00:23:29the oil

00:23:29around the

00:23:29pickup.

00:23:30So that's

00:23:30what we're

00:23:31seeing here

00:23:31in that

00:23:32stab that

00:23:32goes down.

00:23:33Briefly,

00:23:34I would like

00:23:36to go back

00:23:37to the dry

00:23:37clutch.

00:23:39I was

00:23:40recently

00:23:40looking at

00:23:41the Bagger

00:23:41World Cup

00:23:42bikes at

00:23:43Circuit of

00:23:43the Americas

00:23:43during the

00:23:45preseason

00:23:45tests and

00:23:48those bikes

00:23:49have STM

00:23:50dry clutches

00:23:51on the

00:23:52outside of

00:23:52a very

00:23:53finely

00:23:53machined,

00:23:54very tightly

00:23:55packed

00:23:56primary cover.

00:23:57So they've

00:23:57been trying

00:23:58to make

00:23:58the Harley

00:23:58Davidson

00:23:59Bagger

00:24:00race engine

00:24:00more and

00:24:01more narrow.

00:24:02The exhaust

00:24:03pipe is this

00:24:03beautiful

00:24:04titanium

00:24:04thing with

00:24:05castings,

00:24:06titanium

00:24:06castings for

00:24:07the collector

00:24:08so they

00:24:09can make

00:24:09a very

00:24:10precise,

00:24:11thin shape

00:24:12to tuck

00:24:13it in so

00:24:14tight.

00:24:14And they're

00:24:14going for

00:24:1560 degrees

00:24:16on baggers

00:24:17and part of

00:24:17that is

00:24:18tightening up

00:24:18the primary.

00:24:20Now the

00:24:20hottest part

00:24:20of that

00:24:21engine,

00:24:21the Harley

00:24:22engine aside

00:24:23from say

00:24:23the piston

00:24:24crown,

00:24:25the hottest

00:24:25part of the

00:24:25engine is

00:24:26the primary.

00:24:26You're making

00:24:27your churning

00:24:28oil with

00:24:28that big

00:24:29chain in

00:24:30this very

00:24:30tight package

00:24:32and it

00:24:32made a lot

00:24:32of heat.

00:24:33heat and

00:24:35the oil

00:24:37changes with

00:24:38heat.

00:24:38When that

00:24:39stuff gets

00:24:39drained out,

00:24:40it's not

00:24:40honey-colored

00:24:41gorgeous,

00:24:42it's black

00:24:43and highly

00:24:43used.

00:24:44It's really

00:24:45living a life

00:24:46in probably

00:24:46something that's

00:24:47300 degrees

00:24:48plus.

00:24:49They wanted

00:24:50to move the

00:24:50clutch out

00:24:51of that

00:24:51extremely hot

00:24:52variable

00:24:53viscosity

00:24:54environment

00:24:55because the

00:24:56oil was

00:24:56changing and

00:24:58they put a

00:24:58dry clutch

00:24:59on it and

00:24:59it's out

00:24:59there to

00:25:00cool in

00:25:00the air

00:25:01and it's

00:25:02away from

00:25:02that harsh

00:25:03environment.

00:25:03That's what

00:25:05Ducati is

00:25:05doing here.

00:25:06In addition

00:25:06to what

00:25:06Kevin said

00:25:07about friction

00:25:07modifiers,

00:25:08you put a

00:25:09synthetic,

00:25:10a full

00:25:10synthetic in

00:25:11something like

00:25:11your,

00:25:12here's my

00:25:13real-world

00:25:14example,

00:25:1572 Yamaha

00:25:17XS650,

00:25:18the clutch

00:25:18will magically

00:25:19start slipping.

00:25:21There was

00:25:22nothing wrong

00:25:23with the

00:25:23clutch.

00:25:23If you

00:25:23drain that

00:25:24oil out

00:25:24and you

00:25:24put some

00:25:25dino oil

00:25:25back in,

00:25:26clutch is

00:25:26fine.

00:25:28There's a

00:25:28lot at

00:25:29play here.

00:25:30But dry

00:25:30clutch,

00:25:31I mean,

00:25:32isn't that

00:25:33just the

00:25:33historical

00:25:34signature for

00:25:35performance?

00:25:36We're special.

00:25:37That's right

00:25:38because dry

00:25:40clutch was

00:25:40essential when

00:25:41push starting

00:25:42was the

00:25:42way FIM

00:25:44road races

00:25:44began.

00:25:45Or at the

00:25:46Isle of

00:25:46Man when

00:25:47they pushed

00:25:47off one

00:25:48at a time

00:25:48down Bray

00:25:49Hill.

00:25:50These not

00:25:51very large

00:25:52men

00:25:54psyching

00:25:55themselves up

00:25:56to push

00:25:57that 500

00:25:58cc piston

00:25:59through

00:25:59compression

00:25:59at least

00:26:01once.

00:26:02Bang,

00:26:03I'm

00:26:03going.

00:26:05And they

00:26:05ride off

00:26:06with both

00:26:06legs on

00:26:07one side

00:26:07slipping the

00:26:08clutch like

00:26:08crazy.

00:26:09It was

00:26:10quite dramatic

00:26:11in its

00:26:11old-time

00:26:13manner.

00:26:14I think it's

00:26:15a detail

00:26:16lost on

00:26:18people who

00:26:19haven't tried

00:26:20to manually

00:26:20start a

00:26:21one- or

00:26:22two-cylinder

00:26:23engine with

00:26:24the force

00:26:25of your

00:26:25body or

00:26:26the force

00:26:27of your

00:26:27inertia.

00:26:30you only

00:26:31have one

00:26:31chance on

00:26:32a single

00:26:32for the

00:26:34revolution.

00:26:34That's it.

00:26:35There's one

00:26:36chamber.

00:26:37I watched

00:26:37a man

00:26:38hand-crank

00:26:38start an

00:26:39inline

00:26:39eight-cylinder

00:26:41a Buick

00:26:42eight

00:26:42short-track

00:26:44car.

00:26:45An older

00:26:46guy,

00:26:47as he

00:26:48would be.

00:26:49This is

00:26:50not an

00:26:50eight-cylinder

00:26:51short-track

00:26:52cars.

00:26:53Straight

00:26:53eight-cylinder

00:26:54short-track

00:26:54cars are

00:26:55not the

00:26:56sport of

00:26:56the young

00:26:58too much.

00:26:58It doesn't

00:26:59resonate with

00:26:59us.

00:27:02I was

00:27:03impressed,

00:27:03but it

00:27:03was like

00:27:04a seven-to-one

00:27:05motor and

00:27:05it had

00:27:06eight-cylinders

00:27:06and he

00:27:07was hand

00:27:07cranking it

00:27:08from the

00:27:08front of

00:27:09the engine.

00:27:10I said

00:27:10that to

00:27:11him.

00:27:11I said,

00:27:11that's

00:27:11pretty good,

00:27:12but you

00:27:12got eight

00:27:13chances.

00:27:13He just

00:27:14laughed because

00:27:14he knew it

00:27:15was true.

00:27:15He's got

00:27:16eight chances

00:27:17for the

00:27:18mixture to

00:27:18be just

00:27:18so.

00:27:19Just like

00:27:19the big

00:27:20radials,

00:27:21a lot of

00:27:21times they

00:27:22start on a

00:27:22few

00:27:23cylinders

00:27:23just enough

00:27:24to start

00:27:25kicking it

00:27:26and kick,

00:27:27kick,

00:27:28and the

00:27:28crank's

00:27:28going and

00:27:29it says,

00:27:29all right,

00:27:29next cylinder,

00:27:30add yourself

00:27:31in and

00:27:31it finally

00:27:34coughs,

00:27:35and it

00:27:35smooths out.

00:27:36Anyway.

00:27:37And it

00:27:37blows away

00:27:37all the

00:27:38smoke.

00:27:39Blows away

00:27:39the smoke,

00:27:40yeah.

00:27:40Yeah.

00:27:41Well,

00:27:42back to the

00:27:43crankshaft for

00:27:43a moment,

00:27:44you'll notice

00:27:44that the

00:27:45V4

00:27:46crankshafts,

00:27:46the two

00:27:47crank pins

00:27:48of a V4

00:27:49are normally

00:27:50set at

00:27:50either

00:27:51the

00:27:53180 or

00:27:53360,

00:27:54but these

00:27:55are pulled

00:27:56apart by,

00:27:57the last I

00:27:58knew it was

00:27:5870 degrees,

00:27:59and that's

00:28:00part of the

00:28:01Big Bang

00:28:02traction

00:28:04enhancing

00:28:07equivalent of

00:28:08the Big Bang

00:28:09two-strokes

00:28:10of the early

00:28:121990s.

00:28:13Yeah,

00:28:14so grouping

00:28:14the firing

00:28:15orders closer

00:28:15together to

00:28:16give drivetrain

00:28:18tire some

00:28:19time to relax

00:28:19and reform

00:28:21the tire

00:28:21Now,

00:28:21here's another

00:28:22thing that struck me

00:28:24about the

00:28:25engine,

00:28:25and that is

00:28:26with the

00:28:26crankshaft

00:28:27this light,

00:28:30when the

00:28:31not inconsiderable

00:28:33cylinders fire,

00:28:34the crankshaft

00:28:35accelerates,

00:28:36that is,

00:28:38the firing of

00:28:39all that mixture

00:28:40has put energy

00:28:41into the

00:28:42crankshaft,

00:28:42so it

00:28:43accelerates,

00:28:44and then

00:28:45as the

00:28:46firing pressure

00:28:47dies away

00:28:47and the

00:28:48exhaust valves

00:28:48begin to open,

00:28:51that disappears

00:28:52and the

00:28:53crankshaft

00:28:53slows down.

00:28:55Now,

00:28:57I'm really

00:28:58impressed if

00:28:59all they have

00:29:00to do to

00:29:01make the

00:29:02valves follow

00:29:02the profiles

00:29:03with Desmo,

00:29:05that they can

00:29:06make the

00:29:07crankshaft as

00:29:07light as they

00:29:08want,

00:29:08and it never,

00:29:09the valve

00:29:10system just

00:29:12says,

00:29:12sir,

00:29:13yes,

00:29:13sir,

00:29:15because there

00:29:17are plenty of

00:29:17cases in which

00:29:18people have

00:29:18lightened

00:29:19crankshafts

00:29:20in valve

00:29:21spring motors

00:29:21and lost

00:29:22top end

00:29:24because

00:29:25crankshaft

00:29:26speed variation

00:29:27is transmitted

00:29:28to the

00:29:29camshafts,

00:29:30and if the

00:29:31camshafts'

00:29:32speed is

00:29:32varying like

00:29:33this,

00:29:34what if

00:29:36a valve

00:29:37is opening

00:29:37just as

00:29:38this is

00:29:39peaking,

00:29:40patui,

00:29:41valve flow?

00:29:43But the

00:29:44only thing

00:29:44holding the

00:29:45valve is

00:29:45the spring,

00:29:46and in

00:29:46the Desmo,

00:29:47the closing

00:29:48ramp is

00:29:48keeping it

00:29:49from being

00:29:49thrown to

00:29:51the piston.

00:29:54That is

00:29:54the closing

00:29:55lever,

00:29:55which is

00:29:55L-shaped,

00:29:56but they

00:29:57are beautiful

00:29:57parts.

00:30:00They don't

00:30:01look like a

00:30:01child made

00:30:02them out of

00:30:02modeling clay

00:30:03like the

00:30:03early ones.

00:30:04These have

00:30:05definite

00:30:06shape

00:30:07intended for

00:30:08purpose.

00:30:09Very nice.

00:30:10lovely stuff.

00:30:13Then you

00:30:14look at the

00:30:14frame,

00:30:15and the

00:30:16frame is

00:30:17carbon fiber,

00:30:18but it is

00:30:19clearly

00:30:21unrelated to

00:30:22the 2009

00:30:24rigid

00:30:25pyramid

00:30:26that was

00:30:27built for

00:30:27Casey Stoner

00:30:28to cope

00:30:29with.

00:30:32The rigid

00:30:33bike

00:30:36was

00:30:37prone to

00:30:39being

00:30:40horse

00:30:40long.

00:30:40it was

00:30:41prone to

00:30:44having

00:30:45no front

00:30:45end feel

00:30:46and to

00:30:48unpredictable

00:30:49loss of

00:30:49the front

00:30:50end.

00:30:51Because

00:30:52with no

00:30:53flexibility

00:30:53whatever in

00:30:55the chassis

00:30:55when the

00:30:55motorcycle is

00:30:56at lean

00:30:57angle,

00:30:57it's

00:30:58difficult

00:30:58for the

00:30:59tires to

00:31:01stay in

00:31:02contact

00:31:02after being

00:31:04launched

00:31:04upward

00:31:06by a

00:31:07bump

00:31:07because the

00:31:08whole

00:31:08motorcycle is

00:31:09launched

00:31:09upward,

00:31:09not just

00:31:11parts between

00:31:12the tire

00:31:13and the

00:31:15engine.

00:31:16So,

00:31:17this

00:31:18chassis is a

00:31:19beautiful thing.

00:31:21In one

00:31:21picture you

00:31:21can see

00:31:22that there's

00:31:23a strut

00:31:24or a pair

00:31:25of struts

00:31:25that reach

00:31:26out to the

00:31:26front to

00:31:27grasp the

00:31:28upper steering

00:31:29head bearing

00:31:30bearing and

00:31:31another set

00:31:32that grasped

00:31:33the lower

00:31:33steering

00:31:34head

00:31:34bearing.

00:31:35That area

00:31:36around the

00:31:37steering

00:31:37head is

00:31:38prime real

00:31:39estate because

00:31:40they're trying

00:31:41to get the

00:31:41intake airflow

00:31:42to come

00:31:42through there,

00:31:44trying to

00:31:45get it

00:31:45slowed

00:31:46down into

00:31:47the air

00:31:47box because

00:31:49that's not a

00:31:49gas tank up

00:31:50there.

00:31:52that's an

00:31:53intake air

00:31:53box.

00:31:55They talked

00:31:56about the

00:31:59double-sided

00:32:00carbon fiber

00:32:02swing arm

00:32:03being 21%

00:32:05lighter than

00:32:05an aluminum

00:32:06equivalent.

00:32:08this part

00:32:10is made

00:32:11on a

00:32:14on a

00:32:16mandrel

00:32:16that is

00:32:18destroyed

00:32:18in the

00:32:19process of

00:32:20manufacture.

00:32:21It is as

00:32:22though they

00:32:22used a

00:32:23very hard

00:32:23wax

00:32:24made into

00:32:26the shape

00:32:26of the

00:32:27space they

00:32:27want inside

00:32:29the swing

00:32:29arm and

00:32:30then they

00:32:31applied the

00:32:32resin and

00:32:34carbon fiber

00:32:35and their

00:32:36wrappings and

00:32:38all being

00:32:38stuck into

00:32:40the autoclave

00:32:42eventually to

00:32:44make sure

00:32:44that the

00:32:45inside is

00:32:46as free

00:32:48of flaws

00:32:49and does

00:32:49not have

00:32:50pieces that

00:32:51are delammed

00:32:52and hanging

00:32:53out in

00:32:53space.

00:32:54This

00:32:56consumable

00:32:57mandrel is

00:32:58a wonderful

00:33:00thing and

00:33:00it's very

00:33:01much like

00:33:02a version

00:33:03of lost

00:33:04wax

00:33:04casting.

00:33:06So now

00:33:07they've

00:33:08made this

00:33:08carbon fiber

00:33:10part.

00:33:13It's black.

00:33:14You can't

00:33:15see into

00:33:15it.

00:33:16How do

00:33:16you know

00:33:17if it's

00:33:17good?

00:33:18Or is it

00:33:19riddled

00:33:20with porosity

00:33:23from gas

00:33:24released by

00:33:25the curing

00:33:26process?

00:33:27Are there

00:33:28D-LAMs

00:33:29where parts

00:33:30were almost

00:33:31held together

00:33:31strongly

00:33:33enough by

00:33:34the bagging

00:33:35process but

00:33:36they

00:33:38created a

00:33:40void?

00:33:41Well,

00:33:42these methods

00:33:43are just

00:33:44frantic.

00:33:46In one

00:33:47method,

00:33:47they heat

00:33:48the surface

00:33:48with infrared

00:33:49lights and

00:33:52then they

00:33:52switch them

00:33:53off and

00:33:53quickly do

00:33:55a temperature

00:33:55scan of all

00:33:56the surfaces.

00:33:57and if

00:33:59the heat

00:33:59conductivity

00:34:00of one

00:34:01area is

00:34:01less than

00:34:02that of

00:34:02the others,

00:34:04its temperature

00:34:05won't fall as

00:34:06rapidly because

00:34:06there's no

00:34:07place for the

00:34:07heat to go

00:34:08inward.

00:34:10So,

00:34:12and then a

00:34:13phased array

00:34:14acoustic system.

00:34:16Now,

00:34:17a phased

00:34:17array radar

00:34:19has ranks

00:34:20and rows

00:34:21of radar

00:34:24emitters

00:34:24that are

00:34:26controlled in

00:34:27such a way

00:34:27that they

00:34:28can produce

00:34:29and instantly

00:34:30steer a

00:34:32tightly focused

00:34:33beam with

00:34:35the electronics

00:34:35that are

00:34:36controlling all

00:34:36of this in

00:34:39two dimensions.

00:34:40And with

00:34:41this,

00:34:42they can make

00:34:42a map of

00:34:43the inside

00:34:44of the part.

00:34:45And then

00:34:46finally,

00:34:47CAT scan.

00:34:49So,

00:34:52these parts,

00:34:54I remember

00:34:56Cook Nelson

00:34:56telling me,

00:34:57Ducati have

00:34:58a machine

00:34:59that makes

00:34:59their connecting

00:35:00rods and

00:35:01the machine

00:35:01takes half

00:35:03an hour

00:35:03to make

00:35:04one rod.

00:35:05And I

00:35:05thought,

00:35:07won't sell

00:35:08many of

00:35:08those.

00:35:09vehicles.

00:35:10But of

00:35:11course,

00:35:11Nelson and

00:35:12Schilling so

00:35:13skillfully

00:35:14promoted the

00:35:15motorcycle they

00:35:16were building

00:35:16that Ducati,

00:35:17no doubt,

00:35:18benefited

00:35:19considerably from

00:35:20this.

00:35:24but in

00:35:25order to

00:35:27understand the

00:35:28value of

00:35:29carbon fiber

00:35:30parts,

00:35:30you have

00:35:30to make

00:35:31some,

00:35:32you have

00:35:33to track

00:35:34test them,

00:35:35and in

00:35:36order to

00:35:36do your

00:35:37due diligence

00:35:38for the

00:35:39rider,

00:35:39you have to

00:35:40inspect them

00:35:40before you.

00:35:41too.

00:35:41So this

00:35:42is cool

00:35:43stuff.

00:35:44Well,

00:35:44there's,

00:35:45yeah,

00:35:45you were

00:35:46talking about,

00:35:46you know,

00:35:47radar and

00:35:47all this,

00:35:48and we

00:35:49got to make

00:35:49sure it's

00:35:50free of

00:35:50flaws.

00:35:51I recalled

00:35:53a person I

00:35:54knew who

00:35:54was beginning

00:35:55to braze

00:35:56bicycle frame

00:35:57tubes together

00:35:59as a thing

00:36:00he wanted to

00:36:00do,

00:36:01and he was

00:36:02doing this,

00:36:02and he had

00:36:03these beautiful

00:36:04little casting

00:36:05lugs that you

00:36:05see on

00:36:05bicycles,

00:36:06you know,

00:36:07chromoly stuff,

00:36:08steel,

00:36:09and he

00:36:10would,

00:36:11sweat those

00:36:11things together,

00:36:13and they were

00:36:14sacrificial,

00:36:15he would cut

00:36:15them in half,

00:36:16and he would,

00:36:16he would,

00:36:17you know,

00:36:18rate his

00:36:18temperature and

00:36:19keep a track

00:36:20on that,

00:36:20and that's how

00:36:21he taught

00:36:21himself,

00:36:21was sacrificing

00:36:23the parts over

00:36:23and over again

00:36:24so that he

00:36:24didn't have to

00:36:25cut it apart

00:36:25to know it

00:36:26was good.

00:36:27Oh,

00:36:28yeah,

00:36:29sure.

00:36:31So the

00:36:32frame on

00:36:33this motorcycle

00:36:33is,

00:36:35first of all,

00:36:36a four

00:36:37legs,

00:36:38like an

00:36:38animal,

00:36:39standing on

00:36:40the engine.

00:36:41And on

00:36:43these legs,

00:36:43it is

00:36:44presumably able

00:36:45to move

00:36:45from side

00:36:46to side,

00:36:47but not

00:36:47to twist

00:36:48and not

00:36:49to bend.

00:36:51And then

00:36:52there is

00:36:53the seat

00:36:53frame,

00:36:54and there

00:36:54are all

00:36:56kinds of

00:36:56other little

00:36:57carbon fiber

00:36:58pieces that

00:36:59are attached.

00:37:00Now,

00:37:00I don't know

00:37:01how they

00:37:02attach them.

00:37:03I know

00:37:03what John

00:37:05Britton did.

00:37:05he made

00:37:06aluminum

00:37:07spools

00:37:07and he

00:37:09wrapped the

00:37:10carbon fiber

00:37:10around the

00:37:11spools and

00:37:12ran it off

00:37:13in the

00:37:13directions to

00:37:14carry the

00:37:15stress wherever

00:37:15it was

00:37:16going.

00:37:17And then

00:37:18he wetted

00:37:19that stuff

00:37:20out and

00:37:21sheathed it

00:37:22all in

00:37:24and then

00:37:26cured it

00:37:27in the

00:37:28equivalent of

00:37:28an autoclave.

00:37:30So,

00:37:33I'm going

00:37:34to have to

00:37:35inform myself

00:37:35more about

00:37:36how concentrated

00:37:38loads,

00:37:39how do you

00:37:40attach the

00:37:40landing gear

00:37:41to a

00:37:43carbon fiber

00:37:44aircraft

00:37:45fuselage?

00:37:46Do you

00:37:47drill holes

00:37:47in the

00:37:49plastic and

00:37:49try to

00:37:50thread them?

00:37:51I don't

00:37:52think so.

00:37:52I don't

00:37:53think so.

00:37:54Early

00:37:55carbon...

00:37:56You have

00:37:56to plan

00:37:58how that

00:37:58stress is

00:37:59going to

00:37:59flow to

00:38:00the

00:38:02landing

00:38:02system.

00:38:03Trek

00:38:03bicycles

00:38:04made a

00:38:06mountain

00:38:06bike in

00:38:07the late

00:38:0790s called

00:38:08the Y

00:38:08bike and

00:38:09it was

00:38:10Y shaped.

00:38:11So,

00:38:11the seat

00:38:12tube was

00:38:13not a

00:38:13tube,

00:38:13it was

00:38:13a Y.

00:38:14If you

00:38:14stood

00:38:15the frame

00:38:16up like

00:38:16this,

00:38:16the seats

00:38:17here,

00:38:17the steering

00:38:18head's up

00:38:18here,

00:38:18and then

00:38:19your bottom

00:38:20bracket

00:38:20business is

00:38:20down here.

00:38:21They call it

00:38:22the Y

00:38:22bike because

00:38:22if you held

00:38:23it this

00:38:23way,

00:38:23it looked

00:38:23like a

00:38:24Y.

00:38:24Y bike.

00:38:26And the

00:38:26first ones

00:38:27they made,

00:38:28the shock

00:38:28lug was

00:38:29bonded,

00:38:31externally

00:38:31bonded to

00:38:32this part

00:38:33of the

00:38:33Y.

00:38:33That was

00:38:34the upper

00:38:34lug for

00:38:35the rear

00:38:35shock.

00:38:36Library

00:38:36paste.

00:38:37And let

00:38:38me tell

00:38:38you,

00:38:40it failed

00:38:41and it

00:38:41failed a lot

00:38:42and it

00:38:42failed on

00:38:42my bike.

00:38:43I got a

00:38:44warranty frame

00:38:45out of

00:38:45that and

00:38:46the next

00:38:46version that

00:38:47they gave

00:38:47to me as

00:38:48a warranty,

00:38:48that upper

00:38:49shock lug

00:38:50was incorporated

00:38:51into a

00:38:52stump that

00:38:53stuck out

00:38:53a plug and

00:38:54it was

00:38:55metallic and

00:38:56it penetrated

00:38:57and it was

00:38:57built in

00:38:58to the

00:38:58frame.

00:38:59It had

00:38:59mechanical

00:39:01connection,

00:39:01not just

00:39:02chemical bonding

00:39:03connection.

00:39:04It was

00:39:04definitely the

00:39:05next step.

00:39:08It is

00:39:09landing gear,

00:39:09Kevin.

00:39:09It is

00:39:10landing gear

00:39:10on a

00:39:10mountain

00:39:10bike.

00:39:11Yeah,

00:39:14I always,

00:39:14when I see

00:39:15large aircraft,

00:39:17of course,

00:39:17I always

00:39:18mentally count

00:39:19the main

00:39:20wheels and

00:39:20multiply by

00:39:2150,000 to

00:39:22get some

00:39:22idea of

00:39:23this machine's

00:39:24takeoff

00:39:24weight because

00:39:26that's what

00:39:26those tires

00:39:27are made

00:39:28to bear.

00:39:29That's just

00:39:30a glimpse

00:39:30into Kevin

00:39:31Cameron's

00:39:31daily life,

00:39:32folks.

00:39:35Well,

00:39:37yes,

00:39:37I think

00:39:39about that

00:39:41considerable

00:39:42thump when

00:39:42a big

00:39:43airplane,

00:39:457777,

00:39:46they make

00:39:47the runway

00:39:49at the

00:39:49touchdown area

00:39:50at least

00:39:51three feet

00:39:51deep and

00:39:52it's concrete

00:39:53and it's

00:39:53full of

00:39:54re-rod.

00:39:54It's designed

00:39:55to take

00:39:56the thump.

00:39:59And

00:40:00why,

00:40:01my goodness,

00:40:01re-rod and

00:40:02concrete,

00:40:03it's a

00:40:04composite,

00:40:04isn't it?

00:40:05Just like

00:40:06CFRP.

00:40:09So,

00:40:09the lovely

00:40:10swing arm,

00:40:13Mark talked

00:40:14about the

00:40:15suspension.

00:40:15Now,

00:40:16the brake

00:40:17calipers,

00:40:19they're

00:40:19rather

00:40:22coy about

00:40:23just how

00:40:24it works,

00:40:24but

00:40:25they have,

00:40:26Brembo,

00:40:27have come

00:40:28up with a

00:40:29way to

00:40:29completely

00:40:30release

00:40:32the

00:40:33pads

00:40:34from the

00:40:34disc

00:40:34surface

00:40:35when

00:40:35you're

00:40:35done

00:40:35braking.

00:40:37And they

00:40:38did it

00:40:38as follows.

00:40:40There's a

00:40:40spring that

00:40:41holds the

00:40:42pads

00:40:42toward the

00:40:44rear on

00:40:45a very

00:40:46slight slope

00:40:48and as

00:40:49you apply

00:40:50the brakes

00:40:51and the

00:40:51pads touch,

00:40:52they go

00:40:53click

00:40:53forward

00:40:54slightly

00:40:55up that

00:40:55slope

00:40:57and you

00:40:58do your

00:40:58braking

00:40:58and when

00:41:00you release

00:41:00the brake,

00:41:01the springs

00:41:02pull the

00:41:03pads back

00:41:04down the

00:41:05slope

00:41:06slightly,

00:41:08that part

00:41:09of the

00:41:09slope

00:41:10moves away

00:41:11from the

00:41:12disc surface

00:41:12so the

00:41:13pads are

00:41:13positively

00:41:15retracted.

00:41:16And you're

00:41:17talking about

00:41:19that oblique

00:41:20angle where

00:41:20the pads,

00:41:21so the pads

00:41:22usually slot

00:41:22into the

00:41:23calipers and

00:41:24are held on

00:41:24either end

00:41:25to carry the

00:41:25load when

00:41:26the brakes

00:41:27are applied

00:41:27and so

00:41:28that

00:41:28Yeah,

00:41:29the end

00:41:29of the

00:41:29backing

00:41:29plate has

00:41:30to butt

00:41:30into the

00:41:31backing.

00:41:31Yeah,

00:41:32and so

00:41:32the backing,

00:41:33so we're

00:41:33talking

00:41:33oblique

00:41:34this way

00:41:35to put

00:41:37the pad

00:41:37into the

00:41:38disc.

00:41:39They're giving

00:41:39a slight

00:41:41servo effect,

00:41:42a power

00:41:42boosting

00:41:42effect.

00:41:43Now,

00:41:44to me,

00:41:44this is

00:41:45a level

00:41:46of precision

00:41:47that must

00:41:48have been

00:41:49infuriatingly

00:41:50difficult to

00:41:50achieve because

00:41:52what you're

00:41:53looking at

00:41:54in the old

00:41:55way of

00:41:58getting just

00:41:58enough

00:41:58retraction,

00:41:59you were

00:41:59relying on

00:42:00the rubber

00:42:01seal.

00:42:02And the way

00:42:03that would

00:42:03work is that

00:42:04you would

00:42:05pull the

00:42:05brake and

00:42:05the piston

00:42:06would slide

00:42:07in the

00:42:07seal and

00:42:08then pressure

00:42:08would rise

00:42:09and it

00:42:09would grip

00:42:10the piston

00:42:11and then you

00:42:12would break

00:42:13and then when

00:42:14you released

00:42:14the seal was

00:42:16deforming and

00:42:17allowing the

00:42:17piston to go

00:42:18do its

00:42:19braking thing

00:42:20and it's

00:42:20waiting,

00:42:21it's under

00:42:21tension and

00:42:22when you

00:42:22release the

00:42:22pressure,

00:42:23it pulled

00:42:24the pad

00:42:24back a little

00:42:25bit.

00:42:26Until it's

00:42:27worn enough

00:42:27for the

00:42:28piston to

00:42:28advance a

00:42:29slight amount

00:42:30again.

00:42:31And that's

00:42:32why there

00:42:32can be

00:42:33variations in

00:42:34lever height

00:42:35as this

00:42:36process takes

00:42:37place.

00:42:37Now Kevin

00:42:38got a

00:42:39Brembo guy

00:42:39in trouble

00:42:40one time

00:42:41because they

00:42:41had a

00:42:41delightful

00:42:42dinner

00:42:42conversation

00:42:44and Kevin

00:42:45asked him

00:42:46the question

00:42:46about,

00:42:47well isn't

00:42:48this where

00:42:48all the

00:42:49real action

00:42:49is,

00:42:50is in the

00:42:50rubber seal

00:42:51doing this

00:42:51stuff?

00:42:51And he's

00:42:52like,

00:42:52oh,

00:42:52someone I

00:42:53could talk

00:42:53to and he

00:42:54gave you

00:42:54lots of

00:42:54stuff that

00:42:56was superb.

00:42:57And he was

00:42:59fine,

00:42:59but these

00:43:00are the

00:43:01truths that

00:43:01we're searching

00:43:02for.

00:43:02So we have

00:43:04the opportunity

00:43:04to talk to

00:43:05a Brembo

00:43:05person and

00:43:07we're going

00:43:08to take

00:43:08advantage of

00:43:09that,

00:43:09Kevin.

00:43:10We're going

00:43:10to ask

00:43:10about these

00:43:11calipers.

00:43:11The idea

00:43:12that a

00:43:13spring is

00:43:13retracting

00:43:14the pad

00:43:14sideways,

00:43:17that where

00:43:18the pad,

00:43:19the backing

00:43:20plate is

00:43:21interfacing

00:43:22with the

00:43:22caliper,

00:43:22has an

00:43:23angle to

00:43:24it to

00:43:25coordinate

00:43:26all of

00:43:26that,

00:43:27to make

00:43:27all of

00:43:28that

00:43:28exceptional

00:43:28and beautiful

00:43:29and perfectly

00:43:30repeatable.

00:43:31I got to

00:43:32give him

00:43:32huge credit

00:43:33because just

00:43:33getting regular

00:43:34brakes to

00:43:34work on

00:43:35your pickup

00:43:35truck can

00:43:36be a pain

00:43:37in the ass

00:43:38sometimes.

00:43:39These are

00:43:40the calipers

00:43:41that they're

00:43:41running on

00:43:42the bagger

00:43:42race bikes,

00:43:43like the

00:43:44Harleys and

00:43:44stuff,

00:43:45and they

00:43:48clean them

00:43:48all the

00:43:48time.

00:43:49They've got a

00:43:50quick disconnect

00:43:50and they've

00:43:51cleaned the

00:43:51pistons.

00:43:52That was

00:43:52another thing

00:43:53actually talking

00:43:54about the

00:43:54pistons.

00:43:55The ends

00:43:56of the

00:43:56pistons that

00:43:57are contacting

00:43:58the backing

00:43:58plate are

00:44:00radially

00:44:00drilled to

00:44:03keep heat

00:44:04transfer lower

00:44:05from going

00:44:05into the

00:44:06fluid.

00:44:07Yep,

00:44:07don't want

00:44:08that.

00:44:09How many

00:44:09extra

00:44:10machining

00:44:10steps is

00:44:11that,

00:44:11right?

00:44:12Or,

00:44:13oh,

00:44:13these

00:44:14calipers are

00:44:14machined

00:44:15from billet.

00:44:15The machine

00:44:16that does

00:44:17that is

00:44:17exquisite

00:44:18because the

00:44:19caliper is

00:44:19a bridge.

00:44:20This isn't

00:44:20bolted together.

00:44:21You don't

00:44:21get caliper

00:44:22halves where

00:44:23you can just

00:44:23go take

00:44:24your hand

00:44:24drill and

00:44:24put in

00:44:25piston

00:44:27bores.

00:44:29It's

00:44:29like this.

00:44:31It's just

00:44:31a little

00:44:31U,

00:44:32and they

00:44:32have a

00:44:32machine

00:44:33that goes

00:44:33in and

00:44:34machines it

00:44:35and pulls

00:44:35itself out.

00:44:36It's just...

00:44:37And when

00:44:38this was

00:44:39told to

00:44:40the Japanese,

00:44:40they said,

00:44:41of course,

00:44:41this is not

00:44:42possible.

00:44:44And of

00:44:44course,

00:44:44then they

00:44:45had to

00:44:45show them

00:44:46how they

00:44:47were doing

00:44:48it.

00:44:48And

00:44:50such a

00:44:51step forward.

00:44:53The calipers

00:44:54that TZ750

00:44:56came with

00:44:57were cast

00:44:59iron, and

00:45:00they weighed

00:45:00four pounds

00:45:01a piece.

00:45:03The calipers

00:45:04that are on

00:45:05MotoGP bikes

00:45:06weigh under

00:45:08450 grams,

00:45:09I think,

00:45:10under a

00:45:10pound.

00:45:11Under a

00:45:12pound!

00:45:13Good stuff.

00:45:15I think,

00:45:16you know,

00:45:16it's a

00:45:16moment to

00:45:17say,

00:45:18when we

00:45:19look at

00:45:19all of the

00:45:20photographs of

00:45:20this motorcycle,

00:45:22and the

00:45:22components,

00:45:23you look at

00:45:24the carbon

00:45:24fork upper,

00:45:26and you

00:45:27look at

00:45:27the frame,

00:45:30you look at

00:45:30the crankshaft.

00:45:32When you

00:45:33look at the

00:45:33crankshaft,

00:45:34the sheen

00:45:35of the

00:45:35material

00:45:37speaks to

00:45:37its content.

00:45:39It's just

00:45:39wonderful.

00:45:40Just the way

00:45:41that the

00:45:41carbon fiber

00:45:42is,

00:45:42when you

00:45:42look at

00:45:42the fibers

00:45:43and you

00:45:43know that

00:45:45those fibers

00:45:47were laid

00:45:48with intent

00:45:49to take

00:45:49precisely the

00:45:51load in

00:45:52the directions

00:45:52they need

00:45:53to take

00:45:53the load

00:45:54and to

00:45:55have give

00:45:56where they

00:45:56need to

00:45:57have give

00:45:57and that

00:45:58someone has

00:45:58thought about

00:45:59this and

00:46:00it's all there

00:46:01on the surface.

00:46:02It's all there

00:46:03on the surface.

00:46:04The fork lower,

00:46:05the machined

00:46:06fork lower

00:46:06is just

00:46:08exquisite

00:46:08where it

00:46:09carries the

00:46:10caliper.

00:46:11And of

00:46:12course what's

00:46:12happening is

00:46:13that the

00:46:14effort

00:46:14on the

00:46:15part of

00:46:16the two

00:46:16calipers

00:46:17to follow

00:46:18the disc

00:46:18as braking

00:46:19goes on

00:46:20is transmitted

00:46:21to the rest

00:46:22of the

00:46:22motorcycle

00:46:23by that

00:46:23thread

00:46:24at the

00:46:24bottom

00:46:24of each

00:46:25fork tube

00:46:25and that

00:46:26will lift

00:46:26the back

00:46:27of the

00:46:27motorcycle

00:46:28off the

00:46:28ground.

00:46:29And how

00:46:30far that

00:46:31is from

00:46:31the triple

00:46:31clamp,

00:46:32the amount

00:46:32of leverage.

00:46:34That lever

00:46:35from where

00:46:35it's taking

00:46:36the force

00:46:36at the

00:46:37brake input

00:46:38up to

00:46:39the triple

00:46:39clamp

00:46:39is just

00:46:40fantastically

00:46:41long.

00:46:42And that's

00:46:42where your

00:46:42carbon

00:46:43upper comes

00:46:43into play

00:46:44because it's

00:46:4530% lighter

00:46:46but stiff

00:46:47as hell.

00:46:48This was

00:46:49one of the

00:46:49most persuasive

00:46:50arguments in

00:46:51favor of

00:46:52alternative

00:46:53front ends

00:46:53and alternative

00:46:55front suspensions

00:46:56was why

00:46:57should we

00:46:57send the

00:46:58force up

00:46:59to the

00:47:00steering head

00:47:01and then

00:47:01back down

00:47:02into the

00:47:03rest of

00:47:03the chassis?

00:47:04Why not

00:47:05have a

00:47:05swing arm

00:47:06pointing forward

00:47:07with a

00:47:08pivot inside

00:47:08the wheel

00:47:09hub

00:47:09so that

00:47:11the line

00:47:13of

00:47:13transmission

00:47:14of force

00:47:14was direct

00:47:17but it

00:47:19didn't work

00:47:19as well

00:47:20as the

00:47:21best

00:47:23telescopic

00:47:23forks

00:47:24and it

00:47:24still

00:47:25doesn't.

00:47:27And Honda

00:47:27put several

00:47:28years into

00:47:29trying to

00:47:29make it

00:47:30work in

00:47:30the 1980s

00:47:31and every

00:47:34year the

00:47:36bike was

00:47:36sort of

00:47:38oh you

00:47:40know

00:47:40fifth

00:47:40fourth

00:47:41so it

00:47:42was promising

00:47:43but when

00:47:45the rider

00:47:47gave

00:47:48direction

00:47:48for what

00:47:50he wanted

00:47:50changed for

00:47:51next year

00:47:52it was

00:47:52always back

00:47:54towards the

00:47:55qualities of

00:47:55a telescopic

00:47:58and the

00:47:58purists were

00:47:59just tearing

00:48:00their hair

00:48:01out because

00:48:01they wanted

00:48:02this revolution

00:48:03they dreamed

00:48:04it they'd

00:48:05made prototypes

00:48:07and here we

00:48:08are with

00:48:08telescopics

00:48:09they still

00:48:09work better.

00:48:12yeah the

00:48:13advantages

00:48:14didn't

00:48:14outweigh

00:48:15what you

00:48:16were losing

00:48:17I got a

00:48:18photo

00:48:19I got a

00:48:19couple of

00:48:20photos this

00:48:21morning from

00:48:21somebody at

00:48:22COTA for

00:48:24the MotoGP

00:48:25this weekend

00:48:27and they

00:48:28show a

00:48:29rack of

00:48:30fuel tanks

00:48:30and there

00:48:31are little

00:48:32squashy ones

00:48:33there's hardly

00:48:34anything to

00:48:35them there

00:48:35for qualifying

00:48:36quality tanks

00:48:38and then

00:48:39there are

00:48:39the

00:48:39big lumps

00:48:41of fuel

00:48:43that have

00:48:44a beak

00:48:45that goes

00:48:45up where

00:48:46the filler

00:48:47cap is

00:48:48in the

00:48:49air box

00:48:49in the

00:48:50normal

00:48:50place

00:48:53so that

00:48:54if the

00:48:55router tucks

00:48:55in it's

00:48:56here somewhere

00:48:56in your

00:48:57middle of

00:48:59your chest

00:49:00so and

00:49:01they're all

00:49:02beautiful

00:49:03looking

00:49:03aluminum

00:49:04weldments

00:49:05just

00:49:06lovely

00:49:07a little

00:49:08detail on

00:49:09oh sorry

00:49:10yep

00:49:10go ahead

00:49:11no a little

00:49:12detail on

00:49:13the brake

00:49:14calipers and

00:49:14fork lowers

00:49:15the ones on

00:49:16the baggers

00:49:17have these

00:49:17beautiful little

00:49:19tongues sticking

00:49:20out that

00:49:20take that

00:49:22guide the

00:49:22axle in the

00:49:23right direction

00:49:23to to their

00:49:25place in the

00:49:26place where the

00:49:26axle goes

00:49:27through the

00:49:27fork lower

00:49:29and as a

00:49:30home mechanic

00:49:31and not as

00:49:32an ongoing

00:49:32race mechanic

00:49:34tuner type

00:49:34person I

00:49:36don't get to

00:49:36see this very

00:49:37often but they

00:49:37were changing

00:49:38front wheels

00:49:38on the

00:49:39baggers and

00:49:40those calipers

00:49:40have these

00:49:41beautiful black

00:49:42plastic pad

00:49:42spreaders that

00:49:44are put in

00:49:44from the top

00:49:45side

00:49:45yep

00:49:46and so when

00:49:47you roll

00:49:47that wheel

00:49:48in it's

00:49:49it's caught

00:49:50it's captured

00:49:50at the axle

00:49:51and it's

00:49:51guided to its

00:49:52place where

00:49:52the axle goes

00:49:53through

00:49:53and the

00:49:57discs go

00:49:57into the

00:49:58calipers and

00:49:58knock out

00:49:59those spreaders

00:50:00yes so you

00:50:01just without

00:50:02much trouble at

00:50:03all you just

00:50:04roll that

00:50:04aluminum

00:50:05marcasini wheel

00:50:06in with its

00:50:06iron super

00:50:07bike discs

00:50:08and it knocks

00:50:09out those

00:50:09things and

00:50:10then you slide

00:50:10and the axle

00:50:11just goes

00:50:12there's no

00:50:13big rubber

00:50:15mallet

00:50:15dead blow

00:50:16people trying

00:50:17to pound an

00:50:18axle through

00:50:18it's it's

00:50:20all beautiful

00:50:21fit and well

00:50:22thought out

00:50:22it was

00:50:22legacy of

00:50:23the AK

00:50:2447

00:50:25yeah

00:50:29because

00:50:30I'm sure

00:50:30that was

00:50:31that's on

00:50:31the I'm

00:50:32sure that's

00:50:32on the

00:50:32Olin's

00:50:35development

00:50:36department

00:50:36wall

00:50:37AK

00:50:3747

00:50:38gold

00:50:39tent

00:50:39Momola

00:50:40showed

00:50:41me

00:50:42a

00:50:43an RG

00:50:44500

00:50:45factory

00:50:46transmission

00:50:47at Daytona

00:50:49one year

00:50:49maybe it

00:50:49was 80

00:50:50and it

00:50:51was so

00:50:52loose

00:50:53the gears

00:50:54were sort

00:50:55of clattering

00:50:56on the

00:50:57shafts

00:50:57because

00:50:58they had

00:50:59made this

00:50:59wonderful

00:51:00precise gearbox

00:51:01and it had

00:51:02been their

00:51:03worst problem

00:51:03in the first

00:51:05two years

00:51:06racing that

00:51:07bike

00:51:09and they

00:51:10fixed it

00:51:14we humans

00:51:15have a problem

00:51:15though

00:51:16a person

00:51:17of authority

00:51:18says

00:51:19let it be

00:51:20made this

00:51:21way

00:51:21and it

00:51:22doesn't

00:51:22work

00:51:23are we

00:51:24going to

00:51:24tell that

00:51:25person

00:51:25it didn't

00:51:27work

00:51:27your idea

00:51:28didn't

00:51:29work

00:51:29or are we

00:51:30going to

00:51:31kind of

00:51:32just go

00:51:33about our

00:51:34business

00:51:35because

00:51:37in engineering

00:51:38social problems

00:51:39are the

00:51:40worst

00:51:43I've heard

00:51:44that

00:51:44yeah

00:51:45well

00:51:45I repeat

00:51:46myself

00:51:46often

00:51:47because

00:51:47I have

00:51:47a limited

00:51:48repertoire

00:51:53I worry

00:51:54I like

00:51:54it

00:51:56yeah so

00:51:56there's

00:51:57500

00:51:57super

00:51:58leggera

00:51:59v4

00:51:59centenario

00:51:59bikes

00:52:00in the

00:52:00special

00:52:01red

00:52:01color

00:52:01and then

00:52:02there

00:52:02are

00:52:02100

00:52:04tricolore

00:52:05bikes

00:52:06so you

00:52:06might have

00:52:07a chance

00:52:07at 600

00:52:08the

00:52:09tricolore

00:52:11sorry if I

00:52:11butchered that

00:52:12folks but

00:52:13further mark

00:52:14this historic

00:52:14milestone

00:52:16so that's

00:52:17pretty

00:52:19what do you

00:52:19think we're

00:52:20going to see

00:52:20on this

00:52:20I mean

00:52:21they're

00:52:21usually

00:52:23six digits

00:52:26six figures

00:52:29well this is

00:52:30the thing

00:52:31you have to

00:52:32be able to

00:52:33to tap

00:52:34this market

00:52:36because

00:52:37if you

00:52:40base your

00:52:41sales on

00:52:42the power

00:52:43of the

00:52:44US middle

00:52:44class and

00:52:45its mass

00:52:46market

00:52:46which at

00:52:48one time

00:52:48was the

00:52:49most powerful

00:52:50force on

00:52:50earth

00:52:52uh

00:52:54you could

00:52:55be

00:52:56walking

00:52:57on

00:52:57shifting

00:52:57sands

00:52:58so

00:52:59the

00:53:00people

00:53:00who

00:53:01have

00:53:01like

00:53:02uh

00:53:03mose

00:53:04allison

00:53:04said

00:53:04in the

00:53:06song

00:53:06but

00:53:07nowadays

00:53:08the

00:53:09old

00:53:09man

00:53:10got all

00:53:12the money

00:53:12and

00:53:14so

00:53:14if they

00:53:15can sell

00:53:15500 of

00:53:16these

00:53:16things

00:53:17to be

00:53:17stored

00:53:18away

00:53:18in

00:53:20uh

00:53:20temperature

00:53:21and

00:53:22humidity

00:53:23controlled

00:53:23rooms

00:53:24all the

00:53:25better

00:53:26for the

00:53:26rest of

00:53:26us

00:53:26because

00:53:27it

00:53:27keeps

00:53:27ducati

00:53:29healthy

00:53:30and that's

00:53:32what we

00:53:32want

00:53:32i asked

00:53:33claudio

00:53:34uh

00:53:35domenicali

00:53:36uh

00:53:36once

00:53:37why are

00:53:38you

00:53:38introducing

00:53:39this

00:53:39v4

00:53:40at a

00:53:41time

00:53:41when

00:53:42sales

00:53:43of

00:53:43big

00:53:44sport

00:53:45bikes

00:53:45are not

00:53:46doing

00:53:46so

00:53:46well

00:53:47and he

00:53:49said

00:53:49because

00:53:50our

00:53:51clientele

00:53:52expect

00:53:52us

00:53:53to

00:53:53lead

00:53:55and

00:53:56that's

00:53:56why

00:53:57i have

00:53:57to

00:53:57advise

00:53:58those

00:53:58people

00:53:59who

00:53:59are

00:53:59disappointed

00:54:00that

00:54:01this

00:54:01bike

00:54:01does

00:54:02not

00:54:02have

00:54:02a

00:54:02single

00:54:02sided

00:54:03swing

00:54:03arm

00:54:03would

00:54:04you

00:54:04i must

00:54:05ask

00:54:05them

00:54:06would

00:54:06you

00:54:06prefer

00:54:07ducati

00:54:07to

00:54:08lead

00:54:08motorcycle

00:54:09design

00:54:10or

00:54:11to

00:54:11celebrate

00:54:12history

00:54:17well

00:54:18mad

00:54:18respect

00:54:18all

00:54:19along

00:54:20you

00:54:20know

00:54:20they

00:54:20were

00:54:21a

00:54:21singles

00:54:21company

00:54:21in

00:54:22the

00:54:2260s

00:54:23and

00:54:24they

00:54:24could

00:54:24clearly

00:54:24see

00:54:25what

00:54:25the

00:54:25future

00:54:25was

00:54:25looking

00:54:26like

00:54:26and

00:54:26they

00:54:26made

00:54:27a

00:54:27v-twin

00:54:27and

00:54:28became

00:54:29their

00:54:29signature

00:54:29and

00:54:30we

00:54:31loved

00:54:31our

00:54:31v-twin

00:54:31ducatis

00:54:32all the

00:54:32way

00:54:32through

00:54:33our

00:54:33belt

00:54:34tribes

00:54:34and

00:54:34851s

00:54:35and

00:54:35900

00:54:36SS

00:54:36engines

00:54:38sure

00:54:39v-twins

00:54:40made

00:54:41sense

00:54:41did

00:54:42the

00:54:42job

00:54:43but

00:54:43they

00:54:43got

00:54:44to

00:54:44the

00:54:44point

00:54:44where

00:54:44they

00:54:44took

00:54:45the

00:54:45v-twin

00:54:45to

00:54:46its

00:54:47natural

00:54:47limit

00:54:47perhaps

00:54:48bores

00:54:49of

00:54:51116

00:54:51millimeters

00:54:52something

00:54:53like

00:54:53bigger

00:54:54bigger

00:54:54than

00:54:55a

00:54:56454

00:54:57chevy

00:54:58that's

00:54:59a

00:54:59big

00:54:59piston

00:55:00and

00:55:01when

00:55:01they

00:55:01were

00:55:01looking

00:55:01at

00:55:01the

00:55:02next

00:55:02evolution

00:55:02and

00:55:03wanting

00:55:03to

00:55:03compete

00:55:03in

00:55:03MotoGP

00:55:06twin

00:55:07wasn't

00:55:07a

00:55:07rational

00:55:08choice

00:55:08so

00:55:09we

00:55:09got

00:55:09v-4s

00:55:10out

00:55:10of it

00:55:10and

00:55:10look

00:55:10at

00:55:10us

00:55:10now

00:55:11and

00:55:11that's

00:55:11what's

00:55:12cool

00:55:12about

00:55:12it

00:55:12is

00:55:12they

00:55:13are

00:55:15entrenched

00:55:16in

00:55:16traditions

00:55:16they

00:55:17still

00:55:17make

00:55:17twins

00:55:17they

00:55:18still

00:55:18make

00:55:18desmo

00:55:19twins

00:55:20they're

00:55:20doing

00:55:20rational

00:55:21things

00:55:21with

00:55:21spring

00:55:22heads

00:55:22and

00:55:22you know

00:55:23you're

00:55:23getting

00:55:23spring

00:55:24head

00:55:24v-twins

00:55:24now

00:55:25monsters

00:55:25with

00:55:25spring

00:55:25head

00:55:26v-twins

00:55:27and

00:55:27spring

00:55:28and

00:55:28v-4s

00:55:28and

00:55:28all

00:55:30that

00:55:31but

00:55:31here

00:55:31we

00:55:32are

00:55:32at

00:55:32the

00:55:32at

00:55:32the

00:55:33outer

00:55:33limit

00:55:33building

00:55:34a

00:55:34bike

00:55:35I

00:55:35don't

00:55:35think

00:55:35anyone

00:55:35else

00:55:36is

00:55:36trying

00:55:36to

00:55:37build

00:55:37or

00:55:37could

00:55:37build

00:55:38in

00:55:39a

00:55:39way

00:55:39and

00:55:40I

00:55:40just

00:55:40I

00:55:41look

00:55:41at

00:55:42the

00:55:42development

00:55:42team

00:55:43on

00:55:43something

00:55:43like

00:55:43this

00:55:44and

00:55:44I

00:55:45say

00:55:45to

00:55:45myself

00:55:45if

00:55:46you're

00:55:46an

00:55:46engineer

00:55:47and

00:55:48you

00:55:48love

00:55:48motorcycles

00:55:49is

00:55:49there

00:55:50any

00:55:50better

00:55:50thing

00:55:51to be

00:55:51locked

00:55:51in a

00:55:52room

00:55:52to

00:55:52say

00:55:52have

00:55:53at

00:55:54it

00:55:55whatever

00:55:55it

00:55:56costs

00:55:56more

00:55:57fine

00:55:57carbon

00:55:58four

00:55:59cuppers

00:56:00call

00:56:00and

00:56:00see

00:56:01let's

00:56:01make

00:56:01this

00:56:01happen

00:56:02for

00:56:02street

00:56:02bike

00:56:03just

00:56:04going

00:56:04down

00:56:04that

00:56:05and

00:56:05building

00:56:05that

00:56:05and

00:56:06it's

00:56:06got

00:56:06to

00:56:06be

00:56:06I

00:56:06mean

00:56:06it

00:56:07has

00:56:07to

00:56:07be

00:56:07frantic

00:56:07and

00:56:08you

00:56:08have

00:56:08to

00:56:08have

00:56:09oh

00:56:10the

00:56:10massive

00:56:10pressure

00:56:11of

00:56:11building

00:56:11something

00:56:12that's

00:56:12truly

00:56:14amazing

00:56:15it has

00:56:15to

00:56:15function

00:56:16right

00:56:16this

00:56:16is

00:56:18as

00:56:18much

00:56:18as

00:56:19we

00:56:19know

00:56:19that

00:56:19getting

00:56:19on

00:56:20this

00:56:20and

00:56:22a

00:56:22very

00:56:24chosen

00:56:24few

00:56:24of

00:56:25physical

00:56:25and

00:56:25mental

00:56:26capability

00:56:27nonetheless

00:56:30there

00:56:30it is

00:56:31I mean

00:56:31I don't

00:56:32know

00:56:32to be

00:56:32able to

00:56:33be

00:56:33to be

00:56:34on that

00:56:34Brussels

00:56:35have

00:56:35approved

00:56:35it

00:56:36yeah

00:56:37well

00:56:37let's

00:56:38talk

00:56:38we

00:56:38talked

00:56:39so much

00:56:39about

00:56:39the

00:56:39caliper

00:56:40how

00:56:40about

00:56:40those

00:56:40discs

00:56:42sure

00:56:43carbon

00:56:43ceramic

00:56:45years

00:56:45ago

00:56:46Irv

00:56:47Kanemono

00:56:47said

00:56:47I

00:56:49went

00:56:49down

00:56:49the

00:56:50wheel

00:56:50rack

00:56:50they

00:56:51brought

00:56:51all

00:56:51these

00:56:51wheels

00:56:52beginning

00:56:53of some

00:56:53season

00:56:53or other

00:56:54and he

00:56:54said

00:56:54there's

00:56:55all the

00:56:56carbon

00:56:56discs

00:56:57but he

00:56:58said

00:56:58there's

00:56:58other

00:56:58discs

00:56:59that

00:56:59they

00:56:59look

00:56:59like

00:57:00stone

00:57:02and

00:57:02I

00:57:03think

00:57:03that's

00:57:03what

00:57:04that's

00:57:04what

00:57:05this

00:57:05is

00:57:05it's

00:57:07a

00:57:08ceramic

00:57:09such

00:57:10as

00:57:10silicon

00:57:11carbide

00:57:12that

00:57:13is

00:57:15strengthened

00:57:15internally

00:57:16by

00:57:17carbon

00:57:17fibers

00:57:19and

00:57:21wonderful

00:57:21stuff

00:57:22because

00:57:25I

00:57:26picked

00:57:26up

00:57:27the

00:57:27front

00:57:27wheel

00:57:27my

00:57:28son

00:57:28bought

00:57:29a

00:57:29CB

00:57:29900

00:57:31F

00:57:32and

00:57:33he

00:57:33was

00:57:33doing

00:57:34things

00:57:34to it

00:57:34he

00:57:35sort

00:57:36of

00:57:36lost

00:57:36interest

00:57:37after

00:57:37a

00:57:37while

00:57:37but

00:57:37what

00:57:39a

00:57:39heavy

00:57:39front

00:57:40wheel

00:57:41great

00:57:41big

00:57:42thing

00:57:42great

00:57:43big

00:57:43stone

00:57:44just

00:57:45massive

00:57:46discs

00:57:47all

00:57:47the

00:57:47parts

00:57:48were

00:57:49and

00:57:49of

00:57:49course

00:57:50the

00:57:50first

00:57:50thing

00:57:50they

00:57:50did

00:57:51in

00:57:511980

00:57:52when

00:57:52they

00:57:53decided

00:57:53to go

00:57:53super

00:57:53bike

00:57:54racing

00:57:54with

00:57:55that

00:57:55as

00:57:55the

00:57:55basis

00:57:57they

00:57:58put

00:57:59on

00:57:5916

00:57:59inch

00:58:00Morris

00:58:00mags

00:58:02because

00:58:03they

00:58:03didn't

00:58:03want

00:58:04the

00:58:04rider

00:58:04having

00:58:05to

00:58:05put

00:58:05both

00:58:06hands

00:58:06on

00:58:06one

00:58:07handlebar

00:58:07to

00:58:07yank

00:58:08the

00:58:08thing

00:58:08to

00:58:09go

00:58:09around

00:58:10the

00:58:10corner

00:58:11with

00:58:12that

00:58:12tremendous

00:58:13mill

00:58:14wheel

00:58:14on

00:58:14the

00:58:14front

00:58:14and

00:58:16these

00:58:17new

00:58:17discs

00:58:18are

00:58:19presumably

00:58:20highly

00:58:21durable

00:58:23there's

00:58:23not a lot

00:58:24of things

00:58:24that are

00:58:25harder

00:58:25than

00:58:25silicon

00:58:26carbide

00:58:28and

00:58:29they

00:58:29are

00:58:31lightweight

00:58:33the

00:58:34wheels

00:58:34are

00:58:35lightweight

00:58:35one of

00:58:36my

00:58:36favorite

00:58:36items

00:58:37to

00:58:37jump

00:58:37to

00:58:38the

00:58:38other

00:58:38end

00:58:38of

00:58:38the

00:58:38motorcycle

00:58:40you

00:58:41ever

00:58:41take

00:58:41the

00:58:42spring

00:58:42off

00:58:42of

00:58:43a

00:58:43single

00:58:43rear

00:58:43suspension

00:58:44unit

00:58:44that

00:58:45thing

00:58:45is

00:58:45heavy

00:58:46it's

00:58:47very

00:58:48heavy

00:58:49and

00:58:50it's

00:58:50offensively

00:58:51heavy

00:58:51how can

00:58:52this

00:58:52awful

00:58:53thing

00:58:53be on

00:58:53this

00:58:54otherwise

00:58:56filigreed

00:58:56and

00:58:57attenuated

00:58:58motor

00:58:58vehicle

00:58:59well

00:59:00Ducati

00:59:04got a

00:59:05spring

00:59:05designer

00:59:05to go

00:59:06after

00:59:06this

00:59:06problem

00:59:08can't

00:59:08we

00:59:08can't

00:59:09we do

00:59:09better

00:59:09than

00:59:10this

00:59:10yes

00:59:11yes

00:59:12certainly

00:59:12can

00:59:12but

00:59:13it

00:59:13calls

00:59:13for

00:59:13specific

00:59:14materials

00:59:15specific

00:59:16heat

00:59:16treats

00:59:17essentially

00:59:17what

00:59:18they're

00:59:18doing

00:59:18is

00:59:19they're

00:59:19working

00:59:19less

00:59:20metal

00:59:21harder

00:59:2327%

00:59:24less

00:59:25metal

00:59:25fewer

00:59:26turns

00:59:26smaller

00:59:28wire

00:59:30and

00:59:30the

00:59:31maximum

00:59:31stress

00:59:32in

00:59:33that

00:59:33wire

00:59:34is

00:59:34a

00:59:34larger

00:59:35fraction

00:59:35of

00:59:35its

00:59:36yield

00:59:36point

00:59:36than

00:59:37in

00:59:38previous

00:59:39sort

00:59:39of

00:59:41pedestrian

00:59:41springs

00:59:45like

00:59:46something

00:59:46you might

00:59:46find on

00:59:47an old

00:59:47pickup

00:59:48truck

00:59:48so

00:59:49we're

00:59:50getting

00:59:51fewer

00:59:51windings

00:59:52necessary

00:59:53windings

00:59:53per inch

00:59:54reducing

00:59:54the amount

00:59:55of material

00:59:55that's

00:59:56required

00:59:56to make

00:59:57the

00:59:57spring

00:59:58and

00:59:59running

00:59:59working

01:00:00the

01:00:00spring

01:00:00material

01:00:01harder

01:00:02and so

01:00:02that's

01:00:03when you

01:00:03say

01:00:03what is

01:00:04a high

01:00:05performance

01:00:05spring

01:00:05and if

01:00:06you look

01:00:06at the

01:00:06rear shocks

01:00:07on

01:00:07I don't

01:00:09know

01:00:09some

01:00:09vintage

01:00:09triumph

01:00:10or some

01:00:10old

01:00:10Harley

01:00:11or something

01:00:11they're

01:00:11going to

01:00:11be

01:00:11really

01:00:12fat

01:00:12wire

01:00:12and it's

01:00:13going to

01:00:13be

01:00:14tightly

01:00:15wound

01:00:15coils

01:00:15a lot

01:00:16of

01:00:16coils

01:00:16because

01:00:17they

01:00:17can't

01:00:18they

01:00:18just

01:00:18can't

01:00:18stretch

01:00:19as far

01:00:19before

01:00:19they

01:00:20just

01:00:20go

01:00:20nope

01:00:20and

01:00:21they

01:00:21give

01:00:21up

01:00:21when

01:00:22you

01:00:22see

01:00:23that

01:00:24spring

01:00:25that

01:00:25has

01:00:25a few

01:00:26windings

01:00:27fewer

01:00:28windings

01:00:28you know

01:00:28that

01:00:28like a valve

01:00:29spring

01:00:32that process

01:00:33has gone

01:00:34on for

01:00:34years

01:00:35with valve

01:00:35springs

01:00:35they work

01:00:36the material

01:00:37harder

01:00:38the

01:00:38last I

01:00:40heard

01:00:40140,000

01:00:41psi

01:00:41for

01:00:42the peak

01:00:44fiber

01:00:44stress

01:00:44it's

01:00:45probably

01:00:45gone

01:00:45on

01:00:47beyond

01:00:47that

01:00:47since

01:00:48but

01:00:49that's

01:00:49the

01:00:50principle

01:00:50and

01:00:50also

01:00:51this

01:00:52is

01:00:52not

01:00:53so

01:00:53important

01:00:53in a

01:00:54in a

01:00:54suspension

01:00:54spring

01:00:55but

01:00:55in an

01:00:56engine

01:00:57the

01:00:58less

01:00:58mass

01:00:59you

01:00:59have

01:00:59whanging

01:01:00back

01:01:00and

01:01:01forth

01:01:02the

01:01:03less

01:01:05fatigue

01:01:07the

01:01:07spring

01:01:08sees

01:01:08because

01:01:08these

01:01:09reflected

01:01:10stress

01:01:11waves

01:01:11are not

01:01:12constantly

01:01:12ringing

01:01:13back

01:01:13and

01:01:13forth

01:01:14the

01:01:14spring

01:01:15with

01:01:16fewer

01:01:16coils

01:01:16has

01:01:17a

01:01:17much

01:01:17higher

01:01:18frequency

01:01:19than

01:01:20previously

01:01:22anyway

01:01:23lots

01:01:24of

01:01:24little

01:01:24points

01:01:25every

01:01:25part

01:01:25has

01:01:26a

01:01:26story

01:01:27we're

01:01:28trying

01:01:28to

01:01:28bring

01:01:28you

01:01:29some

01:01:29of

01:01:30them

01:01:33yeah

01:01:33the

01:01:34carbon

01:01:34fiber

01:01:34body

01:01:35work

01:01:35one

01:01:35more

01:01:35detail

01:01:36carbon

01:01:36fiber

01:01:36body

01:01:37work

01:01:37again

01:01:37very

01:01:38lightweight

01:01:38but

01:01:38also

01:01:39incorporating

01:01:39the

01:01:41ground

01:01:41effect

01:01:42the

01:01:42corner

01:01:43side

01:01:43pods

01:01:44they call

01:01:44them

01:01:44so

01:01:44when

01:01:44you

01:01:44really

01:01:45deck

01:01:45that

01:01:45thing

01:01:45they've

01:01:46got

01:01:46side

01:01:47pads

01:01:47and

01:01:47the

01:01:47fairing

01:01:47that

01:01:47are

01:01:48helping

01:01:48increase

01:01:48the

01:01:49down

01:01:49force

01:01:49of

01:01:49the

01:01:49bike

01:01:49to

01:01:50increase

01:01:50the

01:01:50grip

01:01:50again

01:01:51an

01:01:52edge

01:01:52case

01:01:52scenario

01:01:53for

01:01:53the

01:01:54best

01:01:54fastest

01:01:54riders

01:01:55so

01:01:56keep

01:01:56working

01:01:56on it

01:01:57keep

01:01:57working

01:01:57on

01:01:57yourself

01:01:58the

01:01:58bike's

01:01:58important

01:01:59but

01:01:59the

01:02:00most

01:02:00important

01:02:00part

01:02:00is

01:02:01the

01:02:01rider

01:02:01typically

01:02:02no

01:02:03question

01:02:03and

01:02:04I

01:02:04will

01:02:04say

01:02:04the

01:02:05tire

01:02:06yeah

01:02:06and I

01:02:07will

01:02:07say

01:02:07that

01:02:09the

01:02:10most

01:02:10recent

01:02:11generation

01:02:11a couple

01:02:12years

01:02:12old

01:02:16we are

01:02:16finally

01:02:17seeing

01:02:17the

01:02:18airfoils

01:02:19at the

01:02:19front

01:02:19that

01:02:19aren't

01:02:20just

01:02:20decorative

01:02:20they're

01:02:21working

01:02:22on these

01:02:23bikes

01:02:23on Ducatis

01:02:23and BMWs

01:02:25in particular

01:02:26they're

01:02:26doing the

01:02:27job

01:02:27you're feeling

01:02:28that at

01:02:29high speed

01:02:29when

01:02:30before

01:02:31maybe you

01:02:32weren't

01:02:32so it's

01:02:34wonderful to

01:02:34get that

01:02:35far

01:02:35that we

01:02:35have this

01:02:36stuff

01:02:37it's not

01:02:37just

01:02:37hey it

01:02:38looks like

01:02:38MotoGP

01:02:39it actually

01:02:39acts like

01:02:40MotoGP

01:02:41the earliest

01:02:42just

01:02:42externally

01:02:43adjustable

01:02:44forks

01:02:44you turn

01:02:45the

01:02:46clickers

01:02:47they weren't

01:02:48connected to

01:02:49anything

01:02:49they were

01:02:50just

01:02:50something

01:02:51to play

01:02:51with

01:02:53on certain

01:02:54bikes

01:02:54yeah we

01:02:55joke about

01:02:56early

01:02:58adjustable

01:02:58rebound

01:02:59shocks

01:02:59on the

01:03:00sport bikes

01:03:00of you

01:03:01know

01:03:0280s

01:03:0290s

01:03:03era

01:03:03and it

01:03:03was a

01:03:04four position

01:03:04rebound

01:03:05adjuster

01:03:05and

01:03:07I'm not

01:03:07sure there

01:03:08was any

01:03:08difference

01:03:08between

01:03:09one and

01:03:09four

01:03:10so

01:03:11yeah

01:03:11we've

01:03:12come a

01:03:12long way

01:03:13this stuff

01:03:13is real

01:03:14that's

01:03:14what's

01:03:14wonderful

01:03:15about it

01:03:17yes it

01:03:18is

01:03:19because

01:03:20think about

01:03:21Alcock and

01:03:22Brown trying

01:03:22to fly

01:03:23across the

01:03:23Atlantic

01:03:24and think

01:03:25about yourself

01:03:26bellying up

01:03:26to the

01:03:27counter

01:03:27and saying

01:03:28any seats

01:03:28on 276

01:03:31you know

01:03:33the product

01:03:33you're going

01:03:34to get

01:03:34and it

01:03:34is an

01:03:35open

01:03:35cockpit

01:03:37and it's

01:03:38likely to

01:03:38reach the

01:03:38destination

01:03:42so this

01:03:43new

01:03:43motorcycle

01:03:44is

01:03:44a

01:03:46collection

01:03:47of works

01:03:47of art

01:03:49and the

01:03:50reason that

01:03:50we gave

01:03:51at the

01:03:51start of

01:03:52this

01:03:53diatribe

01:03:54there are

01:03:54two of

01:03:54us

01:03:56is that

01:03:58the

01:03:59harder

01:03:59you work

01:04:00to

01:04:01make the

01:04:02shape of

01:04:03parts

01:04:03the same

01:04:04as that

01:04:05of the

01:04:05stresses

01:04:05that flow

01:04:06through

01:04:06them

01:04:08the more

01:04:09they

01:04:09please

01:04:09us

01:04:10visually

01:04:12I

01:04:13used to

01:04:13when the

01:04:14new

01:04:14race bikes

01:04:15would come

01:04:16to Boston

01:04:16Cycles

01:04:17and pry

01:04:17the lid

01:04:17off the

01:04:18crate

01:04:19push the

01:04:20sides

01:04:20down

01:04:21I would

01:04:22take cylinders

01:04:23off and

01:04:23go home

01:04:24and I

01:04:25make a pot

01:04:26of coffee

01:04:26and walk

01:04:27up and

01:04:27down

01:04:28looking

01:04:29at the

01:04:30cylinders

01:04:31looking at

01:04:31the porting

01:04:33because I

01:04:33wanted

01:04:36to load

01:04:37all that

01:04:37data so

01:04:38that I'd

01:04:39have something

01:04:39to think

01:04:40about

01:04:40it was

01:04:41wonderful

01:04:43it was a

01:04:44real treat

01:04:44yeah

01:04:47well we

01:04:48can't wait

01:04:48to see

01:04:49and ride

01:04:49this thing

01:04:50somewhere

01:04:52you get

01:04:53a lot

01:04:53of stuff

01:04:54with the

01:04:55bike

01:04:56it goes

01:04:56down a

01:04:56list

01:04:57electronics

01:04:58package

01:04:5960 IMU

01:05:00four level

01:05:00quartering

01:05:01ABS

01:05:01you could

01:05:02go through

01:05:03all of

01:05:04the

01:05:04DVO

01:05:05DVO

01:05:06electronic

01:05:06assistance

01:05:07racing

01:05:08exhaust

01:05:09with software

01:05:09and dedicated

01:05:10calibration

01:05:11dedicated

01:05:11lower

01:05:11fairing

01:05:12open

01:05:13carbon

01:05:13fiber

01:05:14clutch

01:05:14cover

01:05:14which you

01:05:15can't

01:05:15use

01:05:15on the

01:05:15street

01:05:15they say

01:05:17alternator

01:05:17cover

01:05:17protector

01:05:18headlight

01:05:18side

01:05:19sand

01:05:19number

01:05:19plate

01:05:20holder

01:05:20indicators

01:05:20removal

01:05:21kit

01:05:21machined

01:05:22aluminum

01:05:22racing

01:05:22fuel

01:05:22cap

01:05:23don't

01:05:23use

01:05:23it

01:05:23on

01:05:23the

01:05:23street

01:05:25neoprene

01:05:25racing

01:05:25seat

01:05:26dedicated

01:05:26wooden

01:05:27crate

01:05:27dedicated

01:05:28paddock

01:05:28stands

01:05:29mat

01:05:29and

01:05:29motorcycle

01:05:30cover

01:05:30I mean

01:05:32you're

01:05:32getting

01:05:32the whole

01:05:33enchilada

01:05:33I don't

01:05:34know

01:05:34what is

01:05:34the

01:05:35Italian

01:05:35version

01:05:35of an

01:05:36enchilada

01:05:36the whole

01:05:36lasagna

01:05:38you get

01:05:38the whole

01:05:38lasagna

01:05:39with this

01:05:39thing

01:05:40anyway

01:05:40that's

01:05:40the

01:05:41Ducati

01:05:41Super

01:05:42Leggero

01:05:43Centenario

01:05:43I think

01:05:45they're

01:05:45overlooking

01:05:46a possible

01:05:46sales

01:05:49missing out

01:05:50a little

01:05:50bit

01:05:51because

01:05:51it's

01:05:52clear

01:05:52from

01:05:53MotoGP

01:05:53that these

01:05:54motorcycles

01:05:55like horses

01:05:55are not

01:05:57comfortable

01:05:57on their

01:05:58own

01:05:58they always

01:05:59go in

01:06:00pairs

01:06:00every rider

01:06:01has two

01:06:02bikes

01:06:03shouldn't

01:06:04the customer

01:06:05buy two

01:06:06so that

01:06:07they won't

01:06:08be sad

01:06:09and lonely

01:06:10well

01:06:13if I

01:06:14didn't

01:06:14mind

01:06:15what I

01:06:15wrote

01:06:16on the

01:06:16check

01:06:17I would

01:06:17certainly

01:06:18have two

01:06:20it's always

01:06:21good to

01:06:21have a

01:06:21spare

01:06:22if you're

01:06:22going out

01:06:23there

01:06:23and you're

01:06:23really

01:06:23going to

01:06:23do it

01:06:26well thanks

01:06:27for listening

01:06:27folks

01:06:28yes indeed

01:06:29thanks for

01:06:30listening

01:06:30it's another

01:06:31cycle world

01:06:32podcast in

01:06:33the books

01:06:36it's fun

01:06:37to do

01:06:37we love

01:06:38new products

01:06:38we talk

01:06:39about plenty

01:06:39of stuff

01:06:39that starts

01:06:40in 1865

01:06:41or 1900

01:06:42or we

01:06:44start at

01:06:44the molecular

01:06:44level

01:06:45and certainly

01:06:47part of our

01:06:48entertainment

01:06:48we hope it's

01:06:49yours too

01:06:50but what a

01:06:52spectacular piece

01:06:53of engineering

01:06:54and as Kevin

01:06:55pointed out

01:06:56art

01:06:56so thanks for

01:06:57listening folks

01:06:58check us out

01:06:59on patreon

01:07:00there is

01:07:01everything there

01:07:02commercial free

01:07:02for a low

01:07:04cost

01:07:04that comes

01:07:05direct to us

01:07:06rather than

01:07:06some of

01:07:08the large

01:07:08unseen

01:07:09machines

01:07:10that host

01:07:11this podcast

01:07:12elsewhere

01:07:12so thanks

01:07:14for being

01:07:14with us

01:07:15we'll catch

01:07:16you next

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