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00:01You can win $32,000 on the turn of a card on Card Sharks.
00:09And if you play your cards right, you can win this beautiful card.
00:13And now the host of Card Sharks, Bob Eubanks.
00:18Let up, let up.
00:21Thank you. Thank you very much.
00:23And good morning, everybody, and welcome to Card Sharks.
00:26But our champ is back with us, Murray.
00:28You remember Murray from Florida?
00:28He's won a lot of money.
00:30He's still trying to win a beautiful car, and we've got one to give away today.
00:33And we also are about to meet a new contestant for him to pit his strength against.
00:38We'll see what happens.
00:39But right now, I want you to say hi to our two lovely dealers.
00:41Here they are.
00:41They are Susanna Williams and Lacey Pemberton.
00:43Aren't they pretty?
00:45Okay, girls, we're going to start right from the top.
00:47It's Murray and a new challenger.
00:49So while you're getting ready, our Card Sharks, you'll meet them right now.
00:52Come in here, please.
00:53Hi, Bob.
00:54Hey, Murray.
00:55Hey.
00:58$12,500.
00:59You know, let's think it, Murray.
01:00Let's think it.
01:01So far, you've been on the show for a few days, and we found out that you were a retired
01:04policeman
01:05after 30 years, and you do volunteer work in Florida, and you don't fish, play golf.
01:08Let's make up some lies.
01:10All right.
01:10I want to say that I have four wonderful grandsons.
01:14I want you to lie.
01:16No, that's the truth.
01:17I was hoping you'd tell me you're a drug dealer in Miami or something.
01:19No, I wish I was.
01:20Oh.
01:21And I got a lovely wife.
01:23Okay.
01:24And that's it.
01:26You got four grandchildren now?
01:27Four grandchildren.
01:27Oh, that's great.
01:28All boys.
01:28Good.
01:29All right.
01:29One more, and you got a team.
01:30Okay.
01:31Okay.
01:31Eve, how are you?
01:32Fine.
01:33My name is Eve Carr.
01:34I'm from Nashville, Tennessee.
01:36No.
01:36I'm a student there.
01:37I thought, sure, you're from New York.
01:39No.
01:39No?
01:40I'm a student there, and I'm looking forward to transferring to Pepperdine University in
01:44August.
01:45Pepperdine's a beautiful campus.
01:46I love it.
01:46I love it.
01:47It tops any ocean in Tennessee.
01:49It certainly does.
01:50Yeah.
01:51I've seen some oceanfront property in Nashville.
01:52It's not much.
01:53Yeah, it's not very good.
01:54You know how to play the game, I assume.
01:55Uh-huh.
01:55You win two games, you're the champ.
01:57Lacey's got all the cards dealt out, and we're on our way.
01:59First question goes to you, Murray, and this question involves our ten engaged men who
02:03have been with us all week long in our studio audience, and there they are.
02:08Uh, gentlemen, welcome back.
02:13Now, what you're looking at, Murray and Eve, are men in love.
02:17Men in love.
02:18They're engaged and in love.
02:20Isn't that neat?
02:22Barf.
02:22Now, before the show, we asked these ten engaged men, if your fiancé asked you to eat
02:30some real ants covered in chocolate, would you do it?
02:36Oh, that's got to be...
02:37How many of these ten men, I mean, we're talking love, Murray, how many of these ten men would
02:41eat real ants covered in chocolate if their fiancé asked them to?
02:44Well, I'll tell you, I haven't been right with them yet, but I will say one thing.
02:48They got brains.
02:49I don't think that they would.
02:50It's got to be a low number.
02:51I would say, uh, three.
02:54Three of them would do that.
02:56Gosh, can you imagine?
02:57Would you do that, Murray?
02:58For the sake of love, no.
03:00Eve, higher or lower than three?
03:01Oh, I think it would be lower.
03:02I think if a girl really loved him, she wouldn't ask him to eat chocolate-covered ants.
03:07That's true.
03:08So, I would say much lower.
03:09I like your logic.
03:10If a girl really loved him, she wouldn't ask him to do that, right?
03:13The actual number of these men who would eat real ants covered in chocolate is five of
03:18them.
03:19Oh.
03:19It wasn't lower, it was higher.
03:21Oh.
03:24That's not love.
03:26That's just ridiculous.
03:27Which five of you guys would actually eat real ants?
03:29Raise your...
03:30Are you kidding me?
03:32Adrienne, you'd really do that?
03:33Yeah.
03:34She's a really good cook, so...
03:36She's a good cook?
03:37She could do fantastic things with ants.
03:40So, you think she could do fantastic things with ants?
03:42Is she with us today?
03:44Yeah.
03:45She is.
03:46Guess what, Adrienne?
03:47What?
03:48We talked to her before the show, and we gave her some real ants.
03:55Adrienne.
03:57Adrienne.
04:04Adrienne, what's her first name?
04:07What's her first name?
04:08Karen.
04:09Karen, would you please come up here now?
04:15Now, Adrienne.
04:16Adrienne, you gotta know, these are real ants covered with chocolate.
04:22I want you to take one and eat it.
04:24We're gonna see if you really are that much in love.
04:39Go ahead, Adrienne, swallow it.
04:41I want to see you swallow it.
04:42Did you swallow it?
04:43Yeah.
04:43You ate...
04:44Add some more.
04:46You ate a real ant covered in chocolate.
04:48Oh, my God.
04:49Just pretty good.
04:49Those are fresh off the farm, too.
04:52That's wonderful.
04:53That really must be love.
04:54Adrienne, today is April 1st.
04:57We would like to say happy April Fool's Day to you, my friend.
05:01Those were not real ants covered with chocolate, so I want you to feel better, okay?
05:06Those are real spiders covered with chocolate.
05:08Thank you, gentlemen, very much.
05:10All right.
05:11Here we go.
05:12Oh, brave.
05:13What are you crying for?
05:15Bracing up.
05:18Lacey cries at everything.
05:20Oh, I'm too much.
05:20She's feeling sorry for the ants.
05:22Those weren't real.
05:24Who's got control?
05:25Murray.
05:25Murray does.
05:26Okay, that's not at all.
05:27See if you're paying attention to this.
05:28Well, I am.
05:28Murray, you're...
05:29There's your card, Murray.
05:30It's five.
05:31Five.
05:33I'm gonna change it.
05:34Well, change the five.
05:34Okay, let's see what you're good at.
05:36Five becomes a five again.
05:39Five.
05:39Higher than the five.
05:40Is it higher?
05:41It is.
05:42Lower.
05:42Lower than the ace.
05:43How about an ace?
05:46Okay, Eve, you're playing free.
05:47Remember, you can't change the card.
05:48Okay.
05:49Here we go.
05:49This is your card.
05:50It's an ace.
05:50Lower.
05:51Lower than the ace.
05:52Four.
05:53Higher.
05:53Higher than the four.
05:54Eight.
05:56Three.
05:57Freeze on the eight.
05:58Now, it's your freeze right there.
06:00Protect your lead a little bit.
06:01We'll pause with these words.
06:03We're gonna chew in a couple of ants while you're gone.
06:05We'll see in just a moment, okay?
06:12I can't get a pair of basses when I play poker.
06:15I can't believe.
06:18Welcome back to Card Sharks.
06:20Well, we had a good time while you're gone.
06:23Now, Bob Barker just called and said that he will not be doing the Miss Ant pageant next year
06:30because we had chocolate-covered ants on our show.
06:33You ready to continue?
06:35CBS will cut that out.
06:36That's all right.
06:36All right.
06:37Let's go on to our next question.
06:38Eve, it's yours.
06:39Educated guest question, Eve.
06:42When the moon is at its closest point to the earth, how many miles away is it?
06:51When it's at its closest point to the earth, how many miles away is it?
06:54Oh, my gosh.
06:56I'm sure you'd know this one.
06:57Oh, let's see.
06:58This is off the top of my head.
07:02Three million?
07:03Three million miles away, all right.
07:05Murray, higher or lower than that, sir?
07:07It's got to be higher.
07:08Even higher than that.
07:08Okay.
07:09It's a long ways.
07:10I know.
07:11Three million miles is a bit out there.
07:14The actual distance to the moon is 213,915.
07:21It wasn't higher.
07:22It was a little bit lower.
07:23All right.
07:24Eve has the control.
07:26Change.
07:27What do you want to do with that eight?
07:28Change it.
07:28Change that eight.
07:29The eight is now a ten.
07:32Lower.
07:33Lower than the ten.
07:33Your card's an eight.
07:35Murray, you get a free chance now.
07:37You get the five.
07:37Okay.
07:38We're going to go higher.
07:39Is it higher?
07:40No, it's not.
07:40No, it's not.
07:41No, it's not.
07:42No, it's not.
07:42Next question.
07:43Here we go again.
07:44This question is for you, Murray.
07:45Okay.
07:46We surveyed 100 women, and we asked them,
07:49is there one woman you dislike
07:53just because she's so much prettier than you?
07:56How many women said there is a woman they dislike
07:58because she's prettier?
08:00Hmm.
08:01I've seen that happen a few times.
08:04I would say it would be in a number of about 35.
08:0835 out of 100 women.
08:10All right.
08:11Eve?
08:13Um, I think that it would be just a little bit higher than that.
08:16I think that there's a lot of jealous girls out there.
08:19Do women just dislike another woman because she's prettier?
08:21Well, women are real quick to judge.
08:23You know, they're real quick just like to look at somebody
08:24and judge them, and I think if they were jealous,
08:26they might not judge them the right way.
08:27I'm glad men aren't like that.
08:28Aren't you, Murray?
08:28That's true.
08:29Yeah.
08:31The actual number of women who dislike a woman
08:33because she's prettier is 10.
08:36Only 10.
08:36No, it wasn't higher.
08:37It was lower.
08:38All right, Murray, now you've got the control
08:39and the five is your card.
08:40Keep it or change it.
08:41Can I change it?
08:42You bet you can.
08:43Okay, I'll change it.
08:44You won the question.
08:44You can do anything you want.
08:45Murray, how about a king?
08:46Okay.
08:47Lower.
08:47Lower.
08:47Lower than the king.
08:48How about a nine?
08:49Nine.
08:50I'm going to go for it.
08:51Lower.
08:52Lower than the nine, the man says it is.
08:53Look at there.
08:55Higher.
08:56Higher.
08:56He's going on.
08:57Higher than the sixth.
08:58Yes.
08:58Jack.
09:00I'm going to do it.
09:01Lower.
09:01Oh, he's going to go on.
09:02If it's lower, you win game number one.
09:04Lower than the jack.
09:05You've won game number one.
09:12Nothing ventured, nothing game.
09:13Nothing game.
09:14Another $100 for you, pal.
09:15Okay, Murray wins game number one.
09:17Eve, you've got to win the next game
09:18in order to stay in this match.
09:19We'll pause for these words,
09:20get all set up for game number two.
09:21We'll be right back to that
09:22right after this, so don't go wrong.
09:32Let's continue now,
09:33and we're going to start game number two.
09:35Lacey has the cards all dealt out
09:37and we're ready to go.
09:38Eve, the first question is yours,
09:39and here it is.
09:40Now, Eve, we ask 100 third-grade girls
09:43to complete this familiar phrase,
09:46all's fair in love and blank.
09:49All right?
09:50All's fair in love and blank.
09:51How many third-grade girls
09:52knew the phrase is,
09:54all's fair in love and war?
09:56I think that's very low.
09:57I don't think that third-graders
09:59really pay attention to other phrases
10:00and cliches and things that we use.
10:02I would say it would be 10.
10:0410 out of 100 knew that the phrase
10:07is, all's fair in love and war.
10:08All right, Murray?
10:10I've had no experience
10:11with third-grade girls.
10:12I hope not.
10:13No.
10:14I didn't mean it that way.
10:16I would say it's got to,
10:18I would say it's got to be slightly higher.
10:20Slightly higher.
10:21Yeah.
10:21Okay.
10:22Let's find out.
10:23The actual number of third-grade girls
10:25who knew the phrase
10:26is, all's fair in love and war,
10:28is two of them.
10:30Wasn't higher, no.
10:32I love this one.
10:34One little girl said,
10:35all's fair in love and divorce.
10:38I like it.
10:39Okay.
10:40Eve has the control.
10:41And Eve, here is your card.
10:43That card is a four.
10:44Higher.
10:45Keep the card and go on.
10:46All right.
10:46It's not higher, though.
10:47No, it's not.
10:48Murray, you lucky dog.
10:50You're playing free with a three.
10:51Higher.
10:52Is it higher?
10:52No, it's not.
10:54Okay.
10:55So, we didn't make any progress
10:57at all, did we?
10:57Murray, I got a question for you.
10:59You know anything about child psychiatrists?
11:01A little bit.
11:02Well, let's find out.
11:03We surveyed 100 of them,
11:04child psychiatrists,
11:05and we asked them,
11:06do suggestive lyrics in rock music
11:09make young people more likely
11:11to have premarital sex?
11:13How many child psychiatrists
11:15said suggestive lyrics
11:16do influence young people
11:18to have premarital sex?
11:22Uh, I would say
11:23that's going to be a fairly...
11:27I've got to say
11:28it's got to be
11:28at least about 25.
11:3225 out of 100 child psychiatrists
11:34said suggestive lyrics
11:35do influence young people
11:36to have premarital sex.
11:37Eve, do you think
11:38it'll be higher or lower than that?
11:40Oh, gosh, that's all the clothes.
11:42Um, I don't think
11:43that they need the music
11:44to get them to do that now.
11:46You don't think so?
11:47No, I think...
11:48I know the first time
11:49I heard shimmy, shimmy,
11:49cocoa bop,
11:50I just attacked
11:50the first girl I saw.
11:52I'd say just a little bit higher.
11:53I think it's higher than that.
11:55The actual number
11:56of child psychiatrists
11:57who said suggestive lyrics
11:58influence young people
11:59to have premarital sex
12:00is 61 of them.
12:03Wow.
12:04In all sincerity,
12:04I'm amazed at that.
12:05I really am.
12:06Eve has the control.
12:07Okay, Eve.
12:09Keep the card?
12:10Yeah.
12:11Okay, and go higher.
12:12Is it higher than the four?
12:14It is.
12:14Lower.
12:15Lower than the eight.
12:16It is.
12:17Higher than the deuce.
12:18It is.
12:19If it's higher,
12:20you win the game.
12:21You do.
12:25So the game is yours.
12:27$100 for you.
12:28That ties it all up,
12:29which means we must play
12:30a tiebreaker game,
12:30but don't get too confident.
12:31This guy standing next to you
12:32is a killer.
12:33Okay.
12:34So now Lacey's going to set up
12:35the cards,
12:35and this time she'll set out
12:36only three cards.
12:37We'll have a maximum
12:38of three high-low questions.
12:39Winner of this game
12:40is the champ
12:41and goes on to play
12:41for the big money.
12:42So good luck to the two of you.
12:43Eve, the question is yours,
12:44and this one involves
12:45our ten engaged men
12:46who are in our studio audience
12:48who are there ready to play.
12:52Now,
12:54before the show,
12:55we ask our ten engaged men
12:56if your fiancé said
12:58she would only marry you
12:59if you would change
13:01your last name to hers.
13:03Would you do it?
13:04How many of these ten men
13:06said they would change
13:07their name?
13:09Gosh,
13:09these ten guys
13:10would do almost anything.
13:11But I don't know
13:15if they would change
13:15their last name.
13:16They probably had
13:17just a little bit
13:17more pride than that.
13:18So I think it would be
13:19a low number.
13:19I would say two.
13:22Two of them.
13:22All right.
13:23Marie,
13:23higher or lower than two?
13:24I would say it's
13:25lower than two.
13:26Lower than two?
13:26Yeah.
13:27Well, we know
13:28one of those turkeys
13:28will eat ants,
13:29don't we?
13:29That's right.
13:32Yeah.
13:32The actual...
13:35Yes.
13:36Yeah.
13:37The actual number
13:37of these men
13:38who had changed
13:39their name is...
13:40Four.
13:41No, it lowers higher.
13:43Higher.
13:43I'll be darned.
13:44That's interesting.
13:45Which four of you guys
13:46would actually change
13:47your name if the fiancé...
13:51Adrian, Adrian, Adrian.
13:54You'll do anything
13:55to get married,
13:55won't you, Adrian?
13:56If it means changing
13:57my name, I'll do it.
13:59Adrian, what's your last name?
14:00Avalos.
14:01Pardon me?
14:01Avalos.
14:02Avalos.
14:02And what's your fiancé's
14:04last name?
14:04Traeger.
14:05Yeah, I can understand why.
14:06Okay, Adrian.
14:07Thank you, gentlemen,
14:08very much.
14:09Nice to have you with us.
14:09All right.
14:12All right, Eve.
14:13Here we go.
14:13Let's see who the champion
14:14is going to be.
14:15Okay.
14:15Tiebreaker game.
14:16Eve got the control.
14:17There's an eight.
14:18Play or change?
14:18Five.
14:21Change it.
14:21Change the card.
14:22It worries me
14:23that she paused
14:24on that one.
14:25Now it becomes a five.
14:27Higher.
14:28Higher than the five.
14:29Card's a nine.
14:30Nine.
14:31Okay.
14:33Lower.
14:33Lower.
14:33If it's lower,
14:34you win the game
14:35and you're the new champ.
14:36Is it lower than the nine?
14:37It is.
14:42Bingo.
14:44Thanks a lot.
14:46Congratulations, Eve.
14:47You are the new champ.
14:49Hey, Murray.
14:50You've been wonderful.
14:51You really haven't.
14:51I'm not going to be
14:52sorry about it,
14:53believe me.
14:54I'd like to say a few words.
14:55Well, we don't have time,
14:56but that's okay.
14:57$12,600.
14:57I want to thank everybody
14:58in the organization.
14:59They've been wonderful.
15:00Thank you, Murray.
15:01You're a neat man.
15:01Thank you very much.
15:02Come here, Eve.
15:06Here's our new champ.
15:07In just a moment,
15:07we'll give this lady
15:08a chance to win
15:08a lot of money
15:09and a new car
15:10right after this.
15:11Come to the way.
15:13I was so worried
15:15that I missed
15:16at first.
15:16I was like,
15:17oh, no.
15:24Welcome back to Card Sharks.
15:25This is our new champ.
15:26Eve, you have done it.
15:28Thank goodness.
15:29Now, the fun
15:29is going to really begin,
15:30though,
15:30because in addition
15:31to all the money
15:32you can win,
15:33Lacey and Suzanne
15:34are dealing out
15:34a deck of cards
15:35that contain
15:35a couple of jokers.
15:36Inside the cards
15:38are the jokers.
15:38Every time a joker
15:39pops up,
15:40that simply gives you
15:40another opportunity
15:41of winning a brand new car.
15:43And just for winning
15:44the match,
15:44we want you to know,
15:45just for winning the match,
15:46Lacey has one joker for you,
15:48so you know you have
15:49one chance of winning
15:50that car.
15:50Remember,
15:50you can change
15:51one card per line.
15:52We're going to start
15:52you off with $200.
15:53Give the lady the money,
15:54and let's see if she can
15:55turn it into a lot.
15:56Okay?
15:56Here we go, Eve.
15:57Good luck to you, hon.
15:58With $200,
16:00here's your card.
16:00That first card
16:01is a seven.
16:02Play or change?
16:03Change it.
16:03Change it to which one?
16:04With number two.
16:05Number two.
16:05Let's see what
16:06the seven becomes.
16:06Thank you, Susanna.
16:07Susanna, now it's for four.
16:09$200.
16:11$150 higher.
16:12$150 higher than the four.
16:14It is.
16:15You got $350.
16:18$200 higher.
16:19$200 higher than the six.
16:21Is it?
16:22No, it is not.
16:22That brings you down
16:23to $150,
16:24but a good card,
16:24so you're on your way.
16:25Okay, $100 higher.
16:27$100 higher than the three.
16:29Now you got a four.
16:30Come up here,
16:30give you another $400.
16:31You got $650 on the four.
16:34$500 higher.
16:35$500 higher.
16:36Ooh, gutsy bet.
16:37$500 higher than the four.
16:38Yes.
16:39All right.
16:39$1150.
16:40Change it to number one.
16:41Number one.
16:43Now, a good card.
16:44$10 is a six
16:46with $1,150.
16:48$500 higher.
16:49How much?
16:50$500.
16:50$500.
16:51$500 higher than the six.
16:52Yeah.
16:53Ooh, wow.
16:53$1,650.
16:55I'm in.
16:55$1,650.
16:57$1,000 lower.
16:58$1,000 lower than the king.
17:01You've got it.
17:02Ooh, change it.
17:02$2,650.
17:04And I know you want
17:05to get rid of that one,
17:06don't you?
17:06Okay, the nine will now be
17:08a three.
17:09Oh, all right.
17:10Yeah.
17:12You got $2,650.
17:13You got to bet
17:14at least $1,325.
17:15$2,600 higher.
17:17$2,600?
17:19You're going to bet
17:19$2,600 higher.
17:20Yeah.
17:22You've been talking
17:23to Murray, haven't you?
17:23Yeah, that's good.
17:25Murray bet there.
17:26$2,600 higher than the three.
17:28Ah, it's okay.
17:30No win, no loss.
17:30It's a pushy end up
17:31at $2,650.
17:34She didn't lose it now.
17:34Okay.
17:36Okay.
17:37That brings your total
17:39winnings now to $2,850, Eve.
17:40And Lacey has a joker for you.
17:43Here's the joker over here.
17:44As you can tell,
17:45Susanna has set up
17:46seven numbered cards.
17:47Behind one of them
17:48is the word car.
17:49If you find it,
17:50this is the car
17:51you'll go home in.
17:52Bob Hilton?
17:52It's the Toyota
17:54Tercel three-door
17:55liftback EZ.
17:56Great styling
17:57that provides plenty
17:58of interior room
17:59and convenience.
17:59And it comes with
18:00standard features
18:01and California emission.
18:02Good luck, Eve.
18:04Okay, Eve,
18:04go find the car
18:05and it's yours, my dear.
18:09Number four,
18:09the lady says.
18:10Let's see if it's there.
18:11If the word car
18:12is behind number four,
18:13you are going to win.
18:14That car,
18:14in addition to the money
18:15you've won so far,
18:16you'll still be our champion.
18:17Let's find out
18:18if it's there.
18:18We're hoping you win the car.
18:20Is it behind number four?
18:22Oh, was it there?
18:23Today it was behind number two.
18:25Eve, how'd you
18:25chosen that one?
18:27Listen to our audience,
18:28they all said number two
18:28out there.
18:29Good guess.
18:30Okay, $2,850.
18:32That's your winning so far.
18:34In just a moment,
18:34we'll meet a new challenger
18:35for our champion
18:36and we'll play it again
18:37right after this.
18:38Don't go away.
18:41You know,
18:41I had thought two or four
18:43and upstairs I played
18:44and right before I came down.
18:47Welcome back to Card Sharks.
18:48You've got $2,850.
18:50I just asked her
18:51what she's going to do
18:51with the money.
18:52She says half of it
18:53goes to Pepperdine
18:53and the other half
18:54goes shopping.
18:54So you know how it is.
18:56She's our champ
18:56and we'll meet a new challenger
18:58for her when we next time
18:59join you with Card Sharks.
19:00Until then,
19:01for Susanna Williams,
19:02Lacey Pemberton,
19:02Bob Hilton,
19:03who's with us this week,
19:04I'm Bob Eubank
19:04saying thank you very much.
19:05We'll see you next time
19:06on Card Sharks.
19:07Bye-bye, everybody.
19:09Some of our departing contestants
19:10will receive
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19:13Beautify active hands.
19:14Press on in seconds.
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19:17And gift certificates
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19:20and fresh buttermilk biscuits.
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19:25And happy birthday,
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19:54And a member
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20:04Get that great
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20:17This is Bob Hilton
20:18speaking for Card Shards,
20:20a Mike Goodson
20:21television production.
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