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00:00Previously on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
00:02As a friend, you have to be like, OK,
00:05I can receive how I made you feel.
00:07Did I not do that on the winery trip?
00:09Obviously, because we have this bad energy right now.
00:13I don't know what more you want me to do.
00:14And I'm not groveling and kissing ass.
00:17I know I've been on this journey looking for my brothers
00:19and sisters, right?
00:20Yeah.
00:20I found them.
00:21So guess what I'm doing?
00:23What?
00:23Going to Detroit.
00:2527 years, I've never even seen these kids before.
00:28After all of that at the Mexican restaurant,
00:30Kimmy was like, we'll go to Detroit.
00:31We'll hold your hand.
00:32Like, they kind of invited themselves.
00:33I was just like, ah.
00:35Destiny is a friend to everybody.
00:37She's choosing different sides.
00:39And Tisha's like, I can't trust that.
00:40Two seconds later, she's like, but Destiny's going to Detroit
00:43to find her family, and I want to go with her.
00:46Kimmy said that she was going to support her.
00:47But you're going?
00:48You're not going?
00:49I was going to see where you was at.
00:51How would you describe the relationship between you and Tricia?
00:55I'm asking a simple question.
00:56And in her mind, it's an accusation.
00:58He would pull the covers back and be like,
01:00who's been sleeping in the bed?
01:01Somebody been in the bed.
01:02What?
01:02She's a compulsive liar.
01:04She lies about a lot of stuff.
01:09Yeah!
01:09We keep it for moving.
01:11All day or night.
01:13Yeah!
01:15Ain't no stopping.
01:16Let them drop that.
01:17We stop it.
01:19You know!
01:20You know.
01:22We keep it moving.
01:27All day or night.
01:31Yeah, yeah, all day, all night, yeah, ain't no stopping us, yeah.
01:44She lies about a lot of stuff.
01:46She lies about a lot of stuff.
01:46This is real deal scenario.
01:47She lies about a lot of stuff.
01:48This is real deal scenario.
01:49I've never been an insecure person to be like, oh, here at the gym, a bed is squeaking.
01:53Yes, he has.
01:54A bed doesn't exist in a gym.
01:56You would sleep and woke up out of your sleep.
01:58Listen, let me talk, bro.
01:59He just pointed to me.
02:00It's like you're going to throw me under the bus all the time.
02:01No, he just pointed to me.
02:03And that's the thing.
02:04When it's time to throw me under the bus, you'll do it.
02:05When it's time to defend me, you don't.
02:09We both do have anger issues.
02:11It's the same.
02:12This is what it's been.
02:13Now, I'm told lies.
02:14I'm not perfect.
02:15I'm not going to sit here and act like I've never lied.
02:17But at the same time, it's like, I just don't understand Trisha's lies because they're not
02:21that deep.
02:21Like, they're not things that would hinder us or hurt us.
02:26So, it also makes me wonder, like, well, if you're lying about this, like, there has
02:32to be something else that you're lying about and you would never tell me.
02:36Why don't we talk about what's attracting both of you to each other and what's keeping
02:42you with each other?
02:43So, I'm going to let you go first.
02:49Well, I think you are a great person.
02:51Um, I think it's the fun that we can have, that we used to have, that I know we could
02:59have, that I'm hoping to get back to, I guess.
03:03Because, yeah, we're like two fun-ass people together.
03:07The kids love you.
03:08I love you.
03:10It's just, it's a shame.
03:12It's a hurdle we got to get past.
03:14Well, I missed that part, too.
03:16I ain't going to lie.
03:16We've definitely had some amazing times.
03:19I think more or less, like, we just have to stop letting outside stuff affect what goes
03:24on in our household.
03:26Stop letting other people control the mindset and the dynamic of our household.
03:31We're not the only ones going through stuff.
03:33Those kids are going through it, too.
03:36I already said I'm not arguing anymore.
03:37Hmm?
03:38I already said I'm not arguing anymore.
03:42She's not arguing.
03:45Now, I just started this a couple of days ago.
03:47My daughter was like, she just, she said, I get time to argue.
03:51The kids are definitely noticing the, um, energy between Ken and I.
03:57They always keep coming to me, like, no, we want you guys to get back to where we were
04:01in the beginning.
04:02Whatever y'all got to do, y'all can fix this.
04:03That's Xavier's favorite word.
04:04I don't care what it is, y'all can fix this.
04:06So, I'm just willing to work on whatever we need to work on to fix it.
04:10You do love your kids, right?
04:12Yeah.
04:13So, if you do love your kids, since the kids are always going to be in the middle of you
04:18and Kenny, both of y'all are going to have to get it together and create that safe space
04:23for your kids.
04:24Otherwise, they will leave the house and start looking for a safe place out there with somebody
04:31else.
04:32We can't keep feuding back and forth because at the end of the day, it all affects direct
04:36the kids.
04:36The kids are in the middle of everything.
04:38Yeah.
04:39I totally agree with what we were talking about.
04:41We're going to shut it down now.
04:43I want you, sir, to make a promise to Trish in terms of whatever it is that you are willing
04:51to do regardless of her behavior.
04:57I love you enough to be better with how I communicate with you.
05:02All right.
05:03Are you good with that, Trish?
05:05Yes.
05:06What are you going to say?
05:09Kenny, I love you enough to hug you more.
05:15Tell you I love you more.
05:17That's it.
05:18That's it.
05:20Do that.
05:22Tell him you love him.
05:23Gonna hug him.
05:25Communicate more effectively.
05:26And we're going to move along from there, okay, to make sure that this relationship works
05:31well.
05:31I think Ken and I have been through so much these last couple of months.
05:36So it's like you still have that feeling of what frustrated you.
05:43So I do try, but yeah, it's just still working.
05:49Well, I don't know about you all, but I'm going to drink to this.
05:53If that's water.
06:05Last night, we arrived to my hometown, Detroit.
06:09This trip is going to be really emotional.
06:16I absolutely feel that at this time in life, that reconnecting with my siblings and connecting
06:20with the ones that I never met is very important.
06:29I was four or five when the police took my brother and I away from my mother, and it was
06:35the last time that I lived with her.
06:42My mother has six children after Terrell and I, and the rest of my siblings were all adopted
06:47into great families and it took years for me to find my siblings, over 10 years.
06:59Good morning.
07:02How's it going?
07:03Good to have me have this.
07:04You cold?
07:04Yes, always.
07:06Yes.
07:07I'm trying to find an outfit for today.
07:10How are you feeling about today?
07:11I'm excited, nervous, but mainly excited.
07:16You know, first time.
07:17Excited to meet your siblings, your grandmother, your aunties, some cousins.
07:22All of them.
07:23I think, I mean, I've already had an introduction online, so that's been very interesting.
07:28And grandma is excited.
07:29Oh, grandma's way too excited.
07:31Way too excited.
07:32She ready.
07:33She's like, every day from when I was coming.
07:34I'm just really trying to figure out today, like my nerves are a little bad, just a little
07:38bit.
07:39A little shot.
07:42And I feel like I'm the wrangler since I'm the oldest.
07:45Yeah.
07:46I love you.
07:48Who is it?
07:49Room service.
07:50We didn't order no room service.
07:52Oh, no.
07:54Room service, y'all coming to service.
07:56We're just coming to check on you.
07:58I am happy to see the Scots.
08:01And I feel like, you know, the support is what it is, based on the parameters of our relationship
08:09at this point.
08:10I appreciate them.
08:12And it's cool to have them here.
08:14You know, it's cool to have them here.
08:16Nobody's really been linked up.
08:18Yeah.
08:18It's our third time, though.
08:19Right.
08:20We done been together.
08:21Yeah, we in there.
08:22They got sisters in BFFs.
08:23Every year, my grandmother would literally post on Facebook pictures of them and her telephone
08:29number.
08:30That's not real.
08:30Like, call me if you know who this is.
08:34Like, she was trying to find them.
08:35Oh, wow.
08:36Sounds like this has got to be my right line.
08:37My grandmother's been looking for grandchildren for 27 years.
08:41What about your mom?
08:42Are you going to see your mom, too?
08:44Y'all mom?
08:46No?
08:47So what was that look for?
08:49No, you don't want to?
08:50Or no, it's not going to happen?
08:53Well, she's getting, she's getting teary-eyed.
08:57Sometimes I have an expectation of her showing up, and then she just doesn't.
09:02So, I don't know.
09:04I'm the only one out of all the siblings that have ever been raised by her.
09:08Everybody else has been adopted and not.
09:11So I have, like, a different relationship.
09:14That's why we're here to help you through this process.
09:17How can we be here for you?
09:20Like, how can we be that?
09:21This, like, initial meeting with the siblings and everybody meeting, my grandmother's going
09:26to be, like, kind of intimate.
09:28But I think we're going to do something later where we bring everybody together, and I would
09:32love for y'all to be there.
09:33Okay, we can do that.
09:34Just keep us in the loop.
09:36I am just overwhelmed a little bit.
09:39You know, I don't really show it outwardly a lot, but on the inside, it's like fireworks
09:42going off.
09:45Are y'all going to go with her to see?
09:48Well, we told her we wanted to be there however she needed us.
09:51To be there.
09:52I think the initial meet was going to just be with family.
09:55And so we told her that, like, after that was done, like, if she wanted to link up, you
10:00know, we would go out.
10:02Like, I'm...
10:03Doesn't seem like on my face, but I'm almost getting emotional about that, just thinking
10:07and putting myself in there.
10:07Seriously.
10:08My heart would be beating through my chest.
10:10Exactly.
10:11Every second.
10:12And I don't want nobody around.
10:14Hmm.
10:15Although Destiny and I have had our disagreement, I think that as friends, you step up and you
10:20be there for them, especially when they need you.
10:23So no matter what has happened with us in the past, this is a moment that I want to make
10:26sure that I am here for her.
10:28If she needs me and if she don't need me, I'm still here.
10:31I guess for me, I feel like to a degree I've been there.
10:35Going through the breast cancer and people not knowing what to say.
10:40Like, should I go to her house or should I not go to her house?
10:44You know, like, I didn't know what I needed at that time, but at the end of the day, I
10:49needed my friends.
10:51And my friends are the things that mattered the most during that time frame.
10:56You know what I'm saying?
10:57You got to kind of take yourself out of that comfort zone for your friends sometime and
11:01just be there.
11:02Yep.
11:03So, so have y'all talked to Uncle Rick and Daddy and y'all got that squared away?
11:07I mean, they knew that we were coming up.
11:09We haven't, we haven't, I mean, it's early in the day, right?
11:12Today, we're going to go to Pontiac and we're going to see everybody.
11:15My dad, my Uncle Rick, it's our turn now to reunite with family.
11:21We need to schedule two more seats, though.
11:23I need to change the reservation to, you know, plus two.
11:27Dag, so you're trying to say me and Kim are just popping up and everybody else out and
11:31everybody's changing it.
11:31No, no, I didn't know you were.
11:32Hey, hey, Siri, cancel the...
11:35If you believe Marceau set reservations.
11:37Hello.
11:38Hello.
11:38Hello.
11:38It's the first live, right there.
11:41Cancel the stippers.
11:43Coming up on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
11:45What's up, Pops?
11:47Oh, well, oh, Rick.
11:49My God.
11:49What's going on?
11:50My God.
11:53Yowzers.
11:56Trying to have, like, anxiety attack.
11:59Like, my heart is beating or something.
12:18Going to meet all of my siblings in the same room at one time in my family, it's overwhelming.
12:28Since my brother died, I felt alone in the world.
12:31Finding my siblings, it just felt like we're all coming together and there's more of a complete world for me
12:40now.
12:44We're on our way.
12:45I know.
12:48This could be cool.
12:50Grandma's so cute.
12:51I can't wait to see her.
12:52No, literally.
12:53Texting me.
12:54Talking about waiting to see you.
12:56Counting down.
12:57Right.
12:58She's been waiting for this moment.
13:01My baby sister, Paula, I call her PJ.
13:05This has got to be a lot, you know.
13:08She never met her family.
13:09She never met her mom.
13:11She never met her grandmother.
13:12Like, so all I can do is support her, but she doesn't know she's more support for me.
13:18You're about to see a lot of people.
13:21How many people are going to get there?
13:22I have no idea.
13:24I can't even really tell you, for real.
13:29Yeah.
13:31Well, it's a lot of us, so.
13:33No, no.
13:34She's like my Uncle Terry and all the other people.
13:36I'm like the guy.
13:38Jessie, I'm just worried about.
13:40This is how you know I'm a big sister.
13:42Now you're a big sister?
13:44I'm worried about my little brother.
13:46Like, oh my God.
13:48I'm like, where?
13:48Are you okay?
13:49How are you doing?
13:50Let me text you.
13:51Did you say, where y'all at?
13:52No, no, he didn't say nothing back, actually.
13:56I just told him we were on our way.
13:58I think it's important for me to be able to give the attention that I need to my newfound
14:03siblings and balancing them meeting all the family, because the only person they really
14:07know or have had communication with is me.
14:11As I'm processing it, all I can think about, and I guess this is what big siblings do, older
14:16siblings do, is like, how are they feeling?
14:44Come on.
14:46Come on.
14:48Hey, everybody.
14:49Hi, Grandma.
14:50Hi, you guys.
14:51Hi, Kyla.
14:52You look so cute.
14:54Hi, Paula.
14:55Come here, girl.
14:56Give me some love.
14:58Walking in and seeing my family together,
15:00it feels so good to see people that share the same DNA,
15:05same fat cheeks.
15:10I'm really, I'm really elated to see all my family in one room.
15:14I love, love, love my family.
15:19Hey, Deva.
15:21Hi.
15:21Hey, pretty lady.
15:24Bringing all of us together is not only emotional for me,
15:29it's emotional for my grandmother,
15:30because she's been looking for my siblings for almost 30 years.
15:35And, you know, being able to bring us all together
15:39is nothing but God.
15:41We're going to wrap.
15:42Hi.
15:44Hi.
15:45Hi.
15:45Aw, don't cry.
15:47Yes, you do, baby.
15:48You make me cry.
15:49Aw.
15:50It's so good to see you.
15:52Aw.
15:52You too.
15:54I knew she was going to cry.
15:56I knew she was going to cry.
15:57I knew you was going to cry.
15:58She was going to make me cry.
16:00Look at her.
16:00Ain't that something?
16:02We ain't never cry.
16:04You happy?
16:05Aw.
16:06Thank you, Grandma.
16:07Aw.
16:08Thank you, Grandma.
16:09Aw.
16:10It's amazing, ain't it?
16:11It's been a long time coming.
16:13Mama looked for y'all for years.
16:16You know?
16:17You know?
16:19Every year, Mama would post pictures on Facebook of the kids,
16:23like, hey, I'm Annie Mae Sears.
16:27Please reach out for years.
16:30But, um, Destiny was persistent.
16:36Wait.
16:36Mama had a telephone number.
16:39And Destiny did the research.
16:41That one telephone number got us to Paula.
16:46Amazing journey.
16:47Don't you look like your sister?
16:49You look like her.
16:50You look like her.
16:51Walk alike?
16:52I know.
16:53I'm like, I used to wonder, like, who do I look like?
16:55That was, like, the main things I was wondering.
16:56Rhonda.
16:57Who do I look like?
16:57Just like Rhonda.
16:58Don't she?
17:03Yeah.
17:04That's a whole nother amazing story to tell.
17:07What, Rhonda?
17:08Yeah.
17:09Rhonda.
17:10My sister, as a young girl, I admire her so much.
17:15Because she was the prettiest woman I ever seen before in my life.
17:18She was that deal.
17:18She came through in a limousine with her top hats and her two-piece miniskirt suit.
17:26Oh, wait a minute.
17:27Who was?
17:28Your mother was that deal.
17:31She was in motorcycle clubs.
17:33Um, she worked at different bars.
17:37That's what my dad said.
17:37He met her in the bar singing.
17:39I still pray for my sister daily with her daily struggles, you know.
17:43She got caught up in a time where drugs just came out.
17:50Only the strong survived with that epidemic, you know.
17:53The best decision she made was not to raise her children.
17:57Because no telling where they would be.
17:58Exactly.
17:59Looking at Jessie and Paula, Alan, Nisha, I'm so proud.
18:05You don't know where they would be if they still would have been the care of their mother.
18:10She left them.
18:11Because she knew she couldn't take care of them.
18:13She and Nisha had the long talk.
18:15She told Nisha.
18:16What did she tell you, Nisha?
18:18She said that she basically just didn't want to bring us into her lifestyle.
18:24To hear my mom's siblings and family talk about her past and, you know, her just being this beautiful woman,
18:32but to know that she had a life prior to her issues, it's beautiful to hear, but it's also sad
18:39at the same time.
18:40I'm supposed to talk to Rhonda Jo today, our mother, our bio mom, as Jessie says, and Paula.
18:49And I want to know how y'all feel about possibly going with me to talk to her and meet
18:56her for the first time.
18:57I know you just said this morning I wasn't prepared for that, that you want to meet her.
19:03And that's changed.
19:03I don't mind.
19:05You don't mind, because at first it was a strong no, and Jessie was a strong no.
19:10You still a no?
19:11Yeah, I'm good.
19:12Why you don't want to see her?
19:14I just feel like I don't need to.
19:15Like, I ain't got nothing to say to her, for real.
19:18That's right.
19:19You got to respect that.
19:20That's right.
19:21And it's a lot.
19:23So Jessie not wanting to meet my mother, I can understand.
19:26She's a handful.
19:27And he's protecting himself and setting boundaries on what he feels he can handle.
19:31So I have to respect that.
19:32Paula wanted to meet Rhonda, on the other hand.
19:34It concerns me, because she's a pistol.
19:38Um, but I have to support my sister.
19:41Everybody else's experience is different, because that's your sister.
19:44That's your daughter.
19:45Like, but to be her child is different.
19:48Yeah, it is.
19:49It's different.
19:49It has to be.
19:50And then especially for me, because I'm one of the ones that she actually had.
19:55Mm-hmm.
19:55And we got taken away.
19:56So when y'all talk about her, it's kind of hard to see her in the light that y'all
20:02see
20:02her in, unfortunately.
20:14Coming up on Love & Married Huntsville.
20:16How you been feeling today?
20:18Pissed, but good.
20:19Why this?
20:21Well, I can't discuss that.
20:22That's family business.
20:23I'm up enough.
20:26This is challenging.
20:28This is rough.
20:31Like, do I really want to do this?
20:33Do I really want to be this vulnerable?
20:45Everything looks different on this street.
20:47Yeah.
20:47You can tell when you're coming down Telegraph when you get to Pontiac.
20:51You feel a little bump in the road like this.
20:53Well, once you have 40 of them.
20:57Welcome to Pontiac.
20:58Yep.
21:01This is the first house that Reese learned how to lay sod.
21:04Yep.
21:05You see it right there?
21:06That's what?
21:06That's the gray house.
21:07I love going down memory lane.
21:09I mean, this is, these are the streets that I walked.
21:12This is what built us.
21:14And, you know, ooh, look at that.
21:15And even when I'm just telling them about what's going on, I'm really just thinking out loud.
21:19Like, I remember that.
21:21You know?
21:21And there's so many different things that we forgot and that really actually shaped us from
21:26the time that we were a kid's age.
21:27And, well, you know, what we used to do.
21:29And it's like, dang, you know, what would I say to that little boy?
21:32What would I say if I saw them?
21:33So it's always cool just taking a jog down memory lane.
21:37Uncle Rick.
21:38So is he the one that got y'all started in construction or is he like your dad?
21:42No.
21:42Our dad did.
21:44Like, we was always on some project that he had going on coming up.
21:48Yeah.
21:48Like, underneath houses, helping him with HVAC, in basements, doing plumbing.
21:55I would say Uncle Rick developed our eye into the more interior design aspect of it and
22:00what you can do with, you know, with the tools and stuff around you.
22:04But, you know, Pop's got us into construction.
22:06Right.
22:06One thing I liked about my dad is that his work always looked so professional when he finished.
22:12Mm-hmm.
22:12When he finished, it always looked good.
22:14That was one thing that always impressed me about it.
22:16Yeah.
22:16The higher standard.
22:18Like, listen, when you do something, make sure you do it right.
22:21Make sure it's done well.
22:23Uncle Rick and my dad, they've put a lot into us.
22:27They weren't perfect role models, but ultimately, I look at a lot of the things that I do and
22:32I see the excellence that they put inside us.
22:34I'm really excited to go and see Uncle Rick's school because I can know that the next generation,
22:38they're going to be getting some good stuff.
22:41Hey, Reece, you ever been to Uncle Rick's school?
22:44Mm, they just started it not that long ago.
22:47Not long ago?
22:48I think it might be a year or less than a year.
22:50How many students does he have?
22:51I think this might be a second or third batch of students.
22:54He was saying when he was coming up, the building trades was like 36% African-American.
23:01He said it's down to like 6%.
23:05Yeah.
23:06He said the numbers are, like, staggeringly low, but it's a trade that, you know,
23:10a building will never go anywhere.
23:12It'll never go anywhere.
23:13You're always going to need it for it.
23:14You're always going to have a job.
23:15As long as you got a trade, you always got a job.
23:17Yep.
23:25All right, all right, all right.
23:29Uncle Rick!
23:31Hey!
23:32Come on.
23:32Come on, man.
23:34You ain't missing no meals, baby.
23:36No, no, no, I'm eating.
23:37You are.
23:39You are.
23:40You are.
23:41You look amazing.
23:43How are you?
23:43Thank you so much.
23:44You still with this guy?
23:44I still am.
23:46Hi.
23:48How are you, baby?
23:49Good.
23:49How are you?
23:50Uncle Rick, my God.
23:52What's going on, my God?
23:54You guys.
23:55I'm really excited to be back in Pontiac, you know, catching up with my dad, Uncle Rick.
23:59What's up, pops?
24:00Uncle Rick's been in my life, I think my whole life.
24:05I don't remember, you know, a time where he wasn't, like, around.
24:08I love Uncle Rick because he loves me.
24:14What's that?
24:16What is that?
24:17Yeah, the bougie kiss.
24:18I'm excited to just come up here and just hang out with Uncle Rick.
24:22With pops, just, you know, just meet and see all the people, man.
24:26You gonna show us around?
24:27I'm really excited to see Uncle Rick, Dad, Dex, just buddy, everybody.
24:32Yeah.
24:33Uncle Rick's school looks very impressive.
24:34Like, it reminds me of the future Marcel.
24:37Yeah.
24:38I can see that.
24:39It's pretty cool.
24:39Mm-hmm.
24:40We initially started, we were gonna bring the high school kids and teach them, but they
24:45actually have a facility.
24:47The biggest issue that we have right now is if you're 29, 39, 49, in some cases, we have
24:54guys applying to the academy at 59.
24:56Mm-hmm.
24:57What is life like at 40 with no skill set?
25:00And I said, we're gonna fix that.
25:0230 days, you can build a house.
25:03And guess what?
25:04The mindset changes.
25:05And they learning from the best, man.
25:09Are you teaching them design, too?
25:10Like, some of your, you know, your-
25:13Artistic.
25:13Special sauce.
25:14I think that's a gift.
25:16I don't think you teach that so much.
25:18I think that's a gift.
25:19And I'm blessed just to have the gift.
25:21I'm not quite sure what's going on with Daddy Scott right this second.
25:25He usually is a little bit more participant.
25:28He usually is a little bit more vocal and not so standoffish.
25:32I'm not quite sure.
25:33Maybe it's because we're here to see Uncle Rick.
25:36I don't know.
25:37I'm not quite sure.
25:38But I do think it's something that we need to get to the bottom of.
25:43Next on Love & Marriage Huntsville.
25:45You don't have nothing you want to say to any of us?
25:47You got something you want to say to me?
25:49I don't know.
25:51Hi, children.
25:53When I became a non-compensated employee for the federal government, I asked my kids,
26:02well, why didn't you write me?
26:04Why didn't you send cards or whatever?
26:05Right.
26:06And Marceau said, we didn't know you.
26:10Oh.
26:17I'm coming to see my mother.
26:20I'm just overwhelmed.
26:23This is challenging.
26:25This is rough.
26:30I'm not really sure how the cameras are going to affect my mom and I's conversation.
26:35Like, do I really want to do this?
26:37Do I really want to be this vulnerable?
26:40Do I really want this interaction to be shared with the world?
26:43I mean, just to be real honest.
26:45And I go back with, you know, feeling embarrassed sometimes.
26:49But then I have to, like, really sit in what I talked about in therapy, which is, like,
26:53we're two different people.
26:55Like, our paths are very, very different.
26:58And, you know, she is her own person.
27:00Even though I'm her daughter and I'm an extension of her because she birthed me,
27:05I have to really sit in that.
27:06So it's just a lot of emotions.
27:08I don't see you.
27:10Yowzers.
27:12Drop beats.
27:13Try not to have, like, anxiety.
27:15Like, hard beats or something.
27:18This is a big moment.
27:21And it's a very vulnerable moment.
27:23And I'm also juggling the feelings of my siblings and just how it is going to go.
27:31I don't know how she's going to act because she can cut up.
27:35Almost feeling responsible for her behavior.
27:38We have our phones and our children.
28:08We're in tents you can't take alone.
28:08I am very shocked because I haven't seen her this thin before.
28:13I mean, she's always been a tall, lean woman, not really heavy,
28:17but she's just, I don't know, it's kind of, like, alarming.
28:24Destiny.
28:25Hello.
28:26How you been?
28:28Oh, making it.
28:30This is your daughter, Paula.
28:32Oh, Destiny.
28:34How does it feel to see your daughter?
28:36It's good to see you.
28:37You as well.
28:38No, I ain't seen you since first.
28:40It's just...
28:40Yeah.
28:41I don't know what you say.
28:43That's okay.
28:43You look just like me.
28:45Yeah, no, I see now.
28:47Yeah.
28:47And you look like your daddy.
28:49Actually, your father just passed.
28:53I'm just thinking, man, lady, like, can you have a softer touch a little bit?
28:58Like, it just seems like she's so disassociated from, um, from just life.
29:08And it took her a minute to even realize that that's her daughter sitting there that she's
29:13never, she hasn't seen since she, you know, gave her away.
29:17You remember when we got taken away?
29:20Yeah, because I had walked by y'all, but y'all said y'all was in a squad car.
29:23And I'm going to get y'all from Denver.
29:25We saw you when we was leaving the neighborhood.
29:27And we was like, there go our mama, and they just kept driving.
29:29The life that I was living, I couldn't have you in that life.
29:31Not that I didn't want to.
29:34Anything could have happened, it depends on me.
29:36So I gave my mama, you know what I'm saying?
29:38Yeah.
29:39It gave me more leeway to mess up than I had my children, because they were already taken care of.
29:44Why not?
29:45You know?
29:46I felt like I had nothing to live for a lot of time.
29:53I struggle with, um, the thought of her just, you know, making the right decision.
29:59Because the right decision to me would be get clean, get your kids.
30:04So I don't know how y'all feel, but y'all can express how you feel.
30:07It's okay.
30:07You don't have nothing you want to say to any of us?
30:10What am I supposed to say?
30:12I don't know.
30:13Hi, children.
30:15You got something you want to say to me?
30:17No, I think I've said enough.
30:19You made me some promises that I called you.
30:21You said, I don't know what you're talking about.
30:22So I don't care, Justin.
30:23I made you some promises?
30:25Look, I'm not going to go through this emotional rollercoaster that I'm already going through.
30:28What promises did I make you that I didn't?
30:31Nothing.
30:32Exactly.
30:33Right.
30:33Because I didn't make no promises.
30:35You said, yeah, I'll come help you when I told you I was going through my stuff.
30:39Yeah, I'll come help you.
30:40I talked to you over several days.
30:41And what did you do?
30:42What did I do about what?
30:43Went back and got on the streets.
30:45I can't deal with this.
30:45I'm not on those streets.
30:46I live in a house.
30:47Whatever.
30:48Whatever.
30:48You live.
30:49Whatever.
30:49You got your reaction.
30:50So you're doing you and your daddy.
30:52So leave me alone.
30:53I got you.
30:54Right.
30:55You're doing you and your daddy.
30:56It's about you and Tony.
30:57It ain't about me.
30:58You got this money.
30:58Can you help your mama?
31:00No.
31:01What you want me to help you do?
31:02Give me an apartment and I'll pay my own rent.
31:05I get my own.
31:06I got my own income.
31:07You got all this money.
31:07You know what I'm talking about?
31:08The entitlement.
31:09Look, what did you do while it or anybody else?
31:12I did.
31:12Tell me where I'm done.
31:14It's Paula.
31:15It's a pleasure to meet you.
31:17Thank you for coming, Rhonda.
31:19You got something to eat.
31:20You ignoring me now?
31:21Oh, okay.
31:22Yeah.
31:22We done.
31:24We done.
31:26Yeah.
31:26I'm always talking about your daddy.
31:35I'm done.
31:40Coming up on Love and Married Huntsville.
31:42Regardless of how we go back and forth.
31:46We don't go back and forth.
31:47You go back and forth.
31:48Your daddy is crazy.
31:49Can we?
31:49We talking to me.
31:51You talking to me.
31:51Yeah, I'm talking to you.
31:52You talking to me.
31:52Yeah, I'm talking to you.
31:53I just want to say this to you.
31:55I love you.
31:56And I just want you to know that.
31:59You got a funny way of showing it.
32:14Hey, dad.
32:15Hey.
32:17Hey, sugar.
32:17How are you?
32:18I'm okay.
32:20I'm not with this.
32:22We need some tea.
32:23Right.
32:24We need some tea.
32:25Tea?
32:26Come on.
32:26Come on.
32:26Come on.
32:26Come on.
32:27Come on.
32:27Come on.
32:29Marcia and Maurice are going to scoot over to the school with Uncle Rick.
32:32Kind of do a little tour.
32:34I think Tisha and I are going to hang back and talk to Daddy Scott.
32:38See if we can kind of see what's going on.
32:41How you been feeling today?
32:44Pissed but good.
32:46Why you pissed?
32:47Well, I can't discuss that.
32:48That's family business.
32:49We family.
32:50Well, once for a thing for sure.
32:52Once you say it, you can't un-say it.
32:53And once you do it, you can't undo it.
32:55That's true.
32:56Words are very powerful.
32:56And I live by that.
32:58Okay.
32:59You know, I can't get blood from a turnip.
33:00I can only get what you give me, friend.
33:02But listen, for the record, we love hanging around you.
33:06We love when absolutely we eat.
33:09That's right.
33:10We love it.
33:10We love when you hang around.
33:11We love when you come to visit and hang out.
33:13We love when you go around to make sure everybody gets a piece of Daddy for the week.
33:18Yeah, when you come.
33:19We like that.
33:20It took a while to do that because I was still doing like my son.
33:24I thought work was one of the most important things in the world.
33:28A little tidbit.
33:30A lot of times, working is the other woman.
33:34Wait, wait, who now?
33:35Well, I mean, and then you lie to yourself and say, but I'm making money.
33:40Mm-hmm.
33:41I lied to myself and said, but at least I'm doing this for the main woman.
33:45Mm-hmm.
33:45When I was younger, when the kids were growing up, I never would do any of the little small
33:50things, but then I'd try to show up for some of the major things.
33:53And what happened was, when I became a non-compensated employee for the federal government,
34:03I asked my kids, well, why didn't you write me?
34:06Why didn't you send cards or whatever?
34:09And Marceau said, I didn't know, we didn't know you.
34:12Oh.
34:15I was related, but there was no relationships.
34:19So I couldn't get mad at him or get upset because he told me the truth.
34:25Mm-hmm.
34:26So it was my opportunity to repair that.
34:29You say like some of the best stuff.
34:32Was there like an age where that like just clicked for you?
34:37Oh, darling.
34:38No, and I'm really serious.
34:39No, no, I'm telling you, too, I've up enough.
34:43When you take some time to sit down there and be with yourself, it makes a difference.
34:49This is like really good stuff and good conversation.
34:53Do you have it with them?
34:55When they have time.
34:56When they have time.
34:58Did you have a relationship with your father?
35:00Genesis 1?
35:01It's sounding like a cycle.
35:03Yeah, that I'm breaking.
35:05I used to tell Marceau early on in our marriage that money comes and go.
35:12Time, once it's gone, you don't get it back.
35:14In every generation, you have someone that has to break the cycle in order for it to stop.
35:19So I am so happy to hear Daddy Scott acknowledge the problem and say that, listen, I'm going to stop
35:27this.
35:27I realize I see it and it's a problem and it needs to stop.
35:31So, yeah, kudos to him for realizing that.
35:33I had been living vicariously through my grandsons.
35:38At the graduation, when you had the party for the brothers, I sat back and I thank God for the
35:44opportunity to see all the stuff that was going on.
35:48And it was good just to be right there in the moment.
35:51I think when you're incarcerated, it gives you a lot of thinking time.
35:54And I think Daddy Scott definitely, you know, has some regrets that he's missed with his boys.
36:01And I'm not even sure if Marceau and Maurice, you know, I really kind of wonder if they know how
36:07he feels.
36:08You see the boys in the grandkids?
36:11Yes.
36:11And it's a measure of trying to spend more time with the grandkids?
36:15No, no, it's spending more time with my family.
36:17You're doing a great job, Dad.
36:18You're doing great, Dad, yeah.
36:20I am proud of my family, period.
36:28I know it's hard because I'm trying to keep myself calm.
36:36The tension is always high with her and I because I think I'm the biggest reminder of her pain.
36:42You know, my brother is no longer here, God rest his soul.
36:45And we're the only two kids that she actually had and, you know, raised to a certain point.
36:50And so I feel like I'm just a reminder every time she sees me of that pain and her choices.
36:56I think, I mean, this is full circle.
36:59It's just confirmation to things that I already knew.
37:01Like, I know she's not well.
37:04I thought that maybe she would have something for Paula.
37:08And, I mean, I know Jessie don't want to meet her, but I thought she would have something more.
37:12But she talked to her like, I mean.
37:13Paula, I'm on a dance, a tedious journey.
37:19Long down Jesus, to walk with me.
37:23Guide my feet, Lord.
37:26I know you guide my feet.
37:29Listen to my mother sing.
37:32It's just like, I know it's a beautiful moment.
37:34It's the same voice that I remember singing to me as a little girl.
37:38And she just has a beautiful voice.
37:40She just still does.
37:41Because even after all of the life, hard life that she's lived, she still sings for God.
37:47And so that's like, I don't know, it's just beautiful.
37:49I thank you for bringing us together and everything.
37:52You're welcome, little big brother.
37:53I do appreciate it.
37:54Like I told you, you did the family of service.
37:57You know, connect our long-lost siblings together and everything.
38:01And that's beautiful.
38:04Hi.
38:05Hi.
38:06I'm just joining y'all.
38:08Well, I'm glad you got to meet her.
38:10Yeah, I'm grateful.
38:12I'm like, you're the right to meet her.
38:13It's not ideal, but...
38:16She's such a bubbly cheerleader.
38:18Very optimistic.
38:18I can see you.
38:19I understand.
38:20Yeah.
38:23It's just different because she has never had to experience her.
38:28We all have had her in and out, in and out, in and out, in and out.
38:32You just meeting her for the first time after you lived a full life is different.
38:37You know, I really want to make sure that my mother and I have like a one-on-one.
38:41And for her to know that no matter what, like I still love her.
38:45And, you know, her decisions affected me and all our other kids.
38:49But at the end of the day, like, that's still my mother.
38:51I wouldn't be here without her.
38:52And I love her.
38:53I do.
38:54I'm getting ready to go.
38:55And I just wanted to talk to you by myself for a second.
39:01And I want you to meet your daughter because she said she didn't want to...
39:03I did.
39:04I did.
39:04She said she didn't want to do it by herself.
39:07So I...
39:07She didn't have to.
39:09We didn't have to sing gospels.
39:10I know.
39:10I heard y'all.
39:11It brought tears to my eyes.
39:13But I just want you to know that regardless of how we go back and forth and...
39:17We don't go back and forth.
39:18You go back and forth.
39:19Your daddy is crazy.
39:21Can we know?
39:21We talking to me.
39:22You talking to me.
39:23Yeah, I'm talking to you.
39:23You talking to me.
39:24Yeah, I'm talking to you.
39:24I just want to say this to you.
39:26I love you.
39:30I love you.
39:31And I just want you to know that.
39:34You got a funny way of showing it.
39:35I can only show it the way I know how.
39:37Okay.
39:37Have a blessed day.
39:39You too.
39:39Be safe and going back to take her.
39:41If I live and die, don't worry about me.
39:43That's the way you feel, right?
39:44Yeah, that's just how I feel.
39:45All right.
39:46That's the way it is.
39:50As an adult, I don't hold the pain anymore of my mother letting us be taken away because
39:59I went through the process of forgiving her.
40:02Because as a mother now myself, I couldn't imagine not having my baby.
40:08Um, I just, I couldn't imagine.
40:11So my empathy has allowed me to forgive her.
40:25Next on Love and Marriage Huntsville.
40:27Tisha was like, get Ken out of these girls' DMs or something.
40:33A couple DMs here and there, I guess, but if I have done it, I'm not going to lie to
40:37you.
40:38It's not that big of a deal to me.
40:42I used to mask my pain and, like, guard myself just like she does.
40:47And what I learned in therapy is that when you mask your pain, you can't feel anything.
40:51Is that why you're so feisty?
40:52Me?
40:53Feisty?
40:53Yes, aggressive.
40:55Wrong A, assertive.
40:58These last few months, though, I'm tired of it.
41:00Yeah.
41:01I want a reason to go back home.
41:03Man, you want your woman to do right.
41:04Yeah, yeah.
41:05Make you happy, make you want to come home.
41:08Tisha tell Trish that supposedly somebody came to her and I was in their DMs.
41:13Tisha just told Trish that?
41:14Yes.
41:16He needs to check his wife and check her on what she's doing because she's really kind of driving a
41:20wedge in our relationship.
41:21Why was that something that came?
41:23Yeah, I'm kind of wondering that, too.
41:25That's a little embarrassing for me.
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