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00:00The liquor store, seven.
00:02It's a memory.
00:03Three, two.
00:04Yo, this is John Spider Sally, four-time NBA champion,
00:07and you are listening to Stiney and the Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:13All righty.
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00:20Let's welcome in Willard and Dibbs.
00:22It's the crossover.
00:23Hey, guys.
00:24Yeah, what's going on?
00:25Yeah.
00:25Welcome back, Stiney.
00:27Appreciate that.
00:27You look great.
00:29Do I?
00:30Yeah, you do.
00:30You look great.
00:31They can put on about three.
00:32Eh, whatever.
00:33Yeah.
00:33Yeah.
00:34I know everybody always does the weight and the tan.
00:36I'm just talking about the vibe.
00:38Oh, thank you.
00:38Yeah.
00:39You can tell when somebody got some sleep and just some.
00:42Went to bed at 930.
00:43Damon Chang said Willard stop lying to him.
00:46What?
00:46No, it's good.
00:48When somebody dies out, you can tell.
00:50Just come back and they're just like, oh, yeah, that's what the good stuff is.
00:54Didn't turn the TV on.
00:55I love that.
00:56Is that true?
00:57That is true.
00:57That's what he said.
00:58Well, they watched, not me.
01:01They watched some Netflix at night.
01:02Okay.
01:03I was, get this.
01:05And it was all three of your girls?
01:07No, only two out of the three.
01:08My oldest had an audition down in LA.
01:12Good.
01:13Community theater.
01:14She's huge in the theater.
01:15Okay.
01:16Get this.
01:16They had a Miss Pac-Man machine.
01:19Wait.
01:19Come on.
01:19In the house.
01:20In the house?
01:21Yes.
01:21Come on.
01:22I'm up all night, man.
01:23Who won?
01:25Oh, man.
01:25I used to be better.
01:2637,000 was our high, which is not that much.
01:29Yeah.
01:29It's pretty good, though.
01:30Yeah.
01:31You know what's funny is that.
01:32That's getting all the way to like the zucchini and beyond.
01:35You're right there.
01:36No, it goes, I believe, banana, apple, peach.
01:40And I could be wrong with the.
01:42I think the banana might be the highest.
01:44I can't.
01:44I could not have remembered that for a million dollars.
01:47I'm trying to remember what comes up first.
01:50Cherry.
01:51The cherry, yeah.
01:52100.
01:53That's appropriate.
01:54Yeah.
01:54Anyway.
01:55Always use the exits, by the way, because they slow down.
01:58They do.
01:59Look at my man.
02:00It just.
02:00It's.
02:02It was one of those I played.
02:03The first day I played 78 games.
02:05Day two, I played 63.
02:07Okay.
02:08Day three, 47.
02:10You counted.
02:10Day four, 21.
02:12Day five, three.
02:14Yep.
02:14Day six, zero.
02:15Day seven, zero.
02:16There you go.
02:17Yep.
02:17Warriors were one and five while he was out.
02:19Right.
02:19But they beat the Wizards.
02:21Yeah, gutsy.
02:22And the Wizards are on their way to town this week.
02:24Yep.
02:24He'll be there Saturday.
02:25Or Friday.
02:26Friday night.
02:26I'm going too.
02:27Are you?
02:28Yeah.
02:28Okay.
02:28I'll see you there.
02:30Where'd you get your tickets?
02:31Yeah.
02:32Wow.
02:33And he comes back.
02:34I like my chances.
02:34The first thing we talked about is why are people mad at Pods?
02:37I like your chances, too.
02:38I picked up right where we left off.
02:40Yep.
02:40Yeah.
02:40I did.
02:41So I come back.
02:42I didn't watch a lot of Warriors.
02:43Amazing.
02:44But not a lot.
02:45I mean none.
02:46I come back.
02:47I turn on the radio for six minutes.
02:48And the morning roast is talking about if Pods is the most toxic Warrior player since Jordan
02:56Poole and maybe beyond.
02:58And I was like.
02:58Who wasn't toxic to the end?
03:00What happened?
03:01It was gone.
03:02Apparently nothing.
03:03I mean.
03:04He didn't say anything.
03:05Well, he didn't play well.
03:06I guess he had.
03:07He was on a heater before.
03:08Yeah.
03:09His version of a heater before he left.
03:10He didn't play well.
03:10Yeah.
03:11But yeah.
03:12The larger point.
03:14Ah, what a story.
03:16Well, and I don't really want to get into this.
03:19Nobody likes my theory.
03:20I get mad.
03:20But if people are comparing him to Jordan Poole, I think it's past him already.
03:25I think we're in Dunleavy territory.
03:27Oh, I agree with that.
03:28I really do.
03:29And wow.
03:30Is Dunleavy, was he one of the most, I'll say polarizing players?
03:34He was, but I think it's because of like when he came and where he was drafted.
03:40And when he came, we had already gone through Joe Smith, number one overall, didn't work
03:45out.
03:45We had gone through Chris Weber.
03:47They didn't draft him, but they traded for him.
03:49They drafted Penny.
03:50They traded for Weber.
03:51And then the whole Weber Nelly thing went down.
03:54And so you finally got another pick that you thought, all right, here it is.
03:58Number three, overall, Mike Dunleavy Jr.
04:01He's not junior anymore.
04:02He's just Mike Dunleavy, but you had him and it's like, yeah, six, nine, six, 10, whatever
04:07out of Duke.
04:07This guy's a ready-made and we didn't call it that back then, like a stretch for whatever
04:12he was.
04:13And he underwhelmed.
04:14And so I think, I think it's because of what we went through with all those other picks
04:19and I could go back to, I mean, who's that big stiff Mississippi State they had?
04:25Eric Dampier.
04:27You had Damp.
04:27You had Joe Smith.
04:29You had Fuller when you should have had Kobe and you went through all these other failures
04:33and then Dunleavy, I think was like the final straw.
04:36Right, but did you notice all those names you just listed have something in common with
04:42each other, but not with pods.
04:43Right.
04:44Lottery picks or lottery-ish.
04:46They're also disappointing draft picks.
04:48He's not.
04:50Pods?
04:50He's not.
04:51We did this two weeks ago.
04:52We did.
04:53You redraft that draft.
04:54He's gone by the time the Warriors pick.
04:55He goes before 19.
04:57Yeah.
04:57Yep, sure.
04:57So explain that.
05:00Like this is not, nobody gets to do that.
05:03You don't get to say that you're mad at pods because you don't like the way he plays
05:08versus where the Warriors drafted him.
05:10Or how he looks.
05:11Something's up.
05:11That's like, yeah, this is all the other stuff.
05:14This is all social stuff.
05:16This is all Steve Kerr stuff.
05:17Because they got an ROI on the pods pick.
05:20Yeah.
05:20If you're being real, a return on investment.
05:23100%.
05:25Redo the draft.
05:26He's gone by 15.
05:27Gone.
05:28He's probably gone by 10.
05:29Chris Washburn, 86, third pick.
05:32I'm holding on to that.
05:33Yeah.
05:33I mean, I'm going all the way back.
05:35And you had Mitch, Mitch Richmond, number five overall.
05:38Well, you got rid of him.
05:40Tim Hardaway.
05:41Speaking of the crossover, he should be a guest on the crossover, Tim Hardaway.
05:44That's a great call.
05:46That's a 10.
05:46Yeah.
05:47I mean, he was number 14.
05:48And Tyrone Hill went 11.
05:50And if you go through Anthony Hardaway, that was the Webber pick in 93.
05:55If he would have stayed, I would have took him.
05:56Right.
05:57Joe Smith, 1995, number one overall.
06:00Yep.
06:01Did he get this level of, like, a discord?
06:03No.
06:04No.
06:04And he was number one overall.
06:06Our world's changed, too.
06:07One of the reasons, like, the first four picks were Joe Smith, Rasheed Wallace, McDyce, and Stackhouse.
06:15And then Garnett was fifth.
06:16So, put him aside.
06:18Look at you.
06:18Big country with six.
06:21Mighty Mouse with seven.
06:22Some of those guys, you could argue that they were better than Joe Smith.
06:25But they weren't, like, none of those guys were great players.
06:29So, like, Joe Smith had a nice little career.
06:3116 years.
06:32Yeah.
06:33And McDyce was really good.
06:35He was better than Joe Smith.
06:36But I don't kill the Warriors for Joe Smith of picking of those four.
06:42And nobody touched Garnett because he was a high school guy at that point.
06:47And those four guys were proven college players.
06:50Oh, let's play again.
06:51Yes or no over Pajemski.
06:54Wembenyama.
06:56Yeah.
06:57I'm going to go yes.
06:58Okay, seriously.
06:58Brandon Miller.
06:59Yes.
07:01Scoot Henderson.
07:02Yes.
07:03Yes.
07:03I appreciate you.
07:04I was Willard.
07:05I was listening to him.
07:06It's a Paws-y yes.
07:07Okay.
07:08Amin Thompson.
07:09Yes.
07:10Of course.
07:10And his brother.
07:11Yeah, sure.
07:12Wow.
07:13Anthony Black.
07:15That's got to be Pods.
07:16I mean, yeah.
07:17It's Pods.
07:18Bilal Kulibaly.
07:21Jaris Walker.
07:22Taylor Hendricks.
07:24Kaysen Wallace.
07:25I'm taking Pods.
07:26Oh, really?
07:27I am.
07:28Wallace is a good defensive player.
07:29Yeah.
07:30Anyway, go ahead.
07:30But I hear you.
07:31Jet Howard.
07:32Yeah, whatever.
07:33Who are you?
07:33Derek Lively.
07:34He's been hurt a lot.
07:35Yeah.
07:36Grady Dick.
07:36No.
07:37Easy.
07:38Jordan Hawkins.
07:39Kobe Bufkin.
07:40Here's the guy.
07:41Kevontae George.
07:42I like Bufkin's upside.
07:43Kevontae George, for sure.
07:44Let's go behind Pods.
07:46All right, there we go.
07:47Cam Whitmore.
07:49No.
07:49Sorry.
07:50Yeah, I'm with you.
07:52Noah Clowney, Derek Whitehead, Chris Murray, Olivier Maxensprosper, Marcus Sasser, Ben Shepard,
08:03Nick Smith Jr.
08:04Here's a guy.
08:05Bryce Sensabaugh.
08:06Okay.
08:07Julian Strother.
08:08Doesn't play a lot for Denver.
08:10Kobe Brown.
08:12Kobe?
08:12That's the first round?
08:13Yeah.
08:14Yeah, he's top ten pick.
08:15He might be.
08:16But you guys aren't giving me the real.
08:18What?
08:18What is your theory?
08:19Because I feel like Dr. Harry Edwards when I say it is attached to the Kaminga Wagon.
08:24Of course it is.
08:25Okay, I love.
08:26That's all.
08:27That's like.
08:28That's all it is, man.
08:29I love it when we have this conversation, people will be like, you're defending the pod.
08:33I'm not doing it.
08:34Like, I'm.
08:35These are facts.
08:37He is outperforming his draft position.
08:40I get that most of you don't like him.
08:43All I'm trying to point out is it's not the basketball.
08:46That's it.
08:47You're allowed to not like him.
08:49Floppy hair.
08:51Bad comments.
08:52Steve Kerr's pet.
08:54Whatever your reason is, is all fine.
08:56They've got nothing to do.
08:58They're not ready for it.
08:59With being the 19th pick.
09:00And if Kerr saw color dibs, we would have smelt that years ago, a decade ago.
09:05The dude's incredible off the court and what he speaks on to me.
09:09So I look up to him in that vein.
09:11So if there was anything going on late, it's not, man.
09:15But I know you have.
09:16Come on, Google.
09:17You got other things to worry about.
09:18I do.
09:19A part of me feels bad.
09:21Like, damn, Pods has been dealt in the public form of his own fan base.
09:26A bad hand.
09:27Yeah, the white old Tani.
09:28But that should have went away by now.
09:30He's not even talking about basketball.
09:31Yeah, that should have went away.
09:33That doesn't make any sense.
09:33He never said the keys, but he did say, I would love to be.
09:37But I'm like, damn.
09:40This is like, help me out.
09:41Well, it's a lot of things.
09:43And I don't want to, like, play the race card because you had a bunch of callers earlier
09:47talking about this and that.
09:48Get it off your chest, but I can't speak to it.
09:50And I don't believe that that's the thing.
09:52And Steve Kerr, like, a guy who's been in basketball for, whatever, 50 years.
09:56Are you telling me that all of a sudden now he's going to be like, yeah, I want to play
09:59the white guy?
10:00I do think that a lot of it is the twirl of the finger because he will always argue a
10:05call.
10:06And one of your callers said that.
10:08Maybe it's the hair and the fact that he kind of flops around all the time.
10:11And it's also the comments he makes talking about how what he wants to be.
10:16And I don't get bothered by that because I wanted to be Howard Cosell when I was a kid.
10:21Hey, kid, go.
10:23Keep going.
10:24All the way.
10:25It's all three.
10:26But that's who I wanted to be.
10:28And I would tell people when I was like eight or nine, yeah, I'm going to be that.
10:31And he wants to be Steph.
10:33Good for you.
10:34Does he come off Stiney cocky?
10:36Do you think?
10:37Yeah.
10:37And he's supposed to.
10:38But normally that works for athletes.
10:41I'm wondering if pods, it goes the other way.
10:44He's not the first player who thinks he's better than he is.
10:47But others get loved for it.
10:49And pods, whatever, it's like a turnoff.
10:52See, like, actually, if you blew this up to a billion times bigger than it is, I think it's the
11:00same dynamic.
11:02I'm about to get crushed for this because people are going to say I'm comparing him to LeBron.
11:05It's the same dynamic why people don't like the decision from LeBron.
11:11It's the same dynamic.
11:13So you went there.
11:14That's 80 million times bigger, but it's the same dynamic where you use something and you go, that's why I
11:22don't like him.
11:23And it's actually like, that's not why you don't like him.
11:26You like him for you don't like him because of other stuff.
11:29You don't like him because he either flops.
11:31He beats you.
11:33You think he's narcissistic.
11:35He just comes off a certain way that makes you want to smack him in the face.
11:39And then you go, it's the decision.
11:42It's not the decision.
11:43If that's all you got on a guy, you don't got much.
11:46And so I think it's the exact same thing here.
11:49I'll also mention this real quick.
11:52Dude, if you landed in another city to do radio.
11:54Okay.
11:55And you got there and you saw that for three years the media and the fan base had had this
12:02level of an argument over two mediocre players for this long.
12:08You would be like, what is wrong with you all?
12:13I love that.
12:14What is wrong with you all?
12:16Just real quick.
12:17Go ahead.
12:18You're listening to 95.7 The Game, KGMZ FM, and HD1 San Francisco and Odyssey Sports Station.
12:22It's not Steph.
12:24It's what Dibbs did when he went down the possibilities and ideals of the draft picks.
12:30We are waiting.
12:31We don't want Curry to go anywhere, but we know that day's coming.
12:34We're starving for the next.
12:36And I thought Kaminga was going to be part of the next.
12:40Wiseman.
12:41But never Pods.
12:43That's why I got Pods.
12:44It's a plus.
12:45But why can't you?
12:45Because Wiseman hasn't been on the Warriors for five years.
12:47But why can't you just look at all of them?
12:49Because right now it'd be in a...
12:50But look at all of them.
12:51It can be Moody, Pods, Wiseman, Kaminga.
12:55We can keep going.
12:56We're still waiting, Will.
12:57And just go, nope, that's not it.
12:59Well, I...
13:00Okay, so what's next?
13:02That's not it.
13:03I think there's another thing going on here.
13:05Oh, tell us.
13:06That's bigger than Pods.
13:08And we may, unfortunately, be finding it out as time goes on.
13:13And that is the burden that certain players are going to have in this organization coming
13:20after Steph Curry.
13:21So let me tell you, there's going to be two kinds of players that come after Steph Curry.
13:25A guy like Pods, who wants to be that guy, but might not be able to.
13:33And people are going to kill him for it because he has the gall to say, I'd love for Steph
13:38to
13:38hand me the keys.
13:38But then we're going to get players who are better than Pods, who won't be able to live
13:44up to what Steph did, and they're going to get hammered, too.
13:48Oh, that guy's in Atlanta.
13:49Just left Kaminga.
13:50No, it's going to be somebody much better than Kaminga.
13:53It's going to be like a...
13:55It's going to be this year's draft pick.
13:57It might be.
13:58It might be.
13:58Or it could be, you know, give me a free agent.
14:02Like if they would have gone out and gotten DeJounte Murray.
14:05Yeah.
14:06Who's playing well.
14:07I'm sure he is.
14:09But I do think certain guys are going to want to...
14:14Like, Pods isn't that guy.
14:16He's not that guy.
14:17But then there's going to be guys that we might think have the ability, and they're going
14:22to get hammered for not wanting it if they're not as good as...
14:26Well, they're not going to be as good as Curry.
14:28But it's going to be tricky for some players.
14:30A lot of times, the guys that are able to achieve that are not...
14:34It's not hung around their neck before they even play.
14:37Like, if you look at Steph, and even add in Klay and Draymond, they were on the Warriors,
14:43and nobody was like, okay, maybe this is the next guy.
14:46No shoes to feel.
14:48Right.
14:48Right.
14:49Like, I would love for all of us to acknowledge that.
14:52Like, what's different over the last 15 years is us.
14:55It's not them.
14:57It's us.
14:57We're a completely different fan base.
15:00I mean, just miles different.
15:03Oh, if you want to use the word spoiled or just...
15:06I mean, for Chip.
15:06We've just experienced a bunch of crap that we hadn't experienced before.
15:09No, it's spoiled.
15:10And I'm looking at all the lottery picks between Steph and now, and only one of them is actually
15:15still on the team, and it's Moses Moody.
15:17And if you go after Steph, the next year it was Ekbe Udo, number six overall.
15:22Like, did we rip it then?
15:24Wow.
15:24Sure.
15:24But we got over it because they won a chip.
15:27Klay goes at 11.
15:28Harrison Barnes, number seven.
15:31James Wiseman.
15:32It's Kaminga.
15:32But all the rest of those bum picks before Steph?
15:36Like, we expected that.
15:37Whether it was Patrick O'Brien at nine.
15:39Ike Diagu at nine.
15:41Andres Biedrin's at 11.
15:43Like, that's what you did back then.
15:45But the new fan base now is like, oh, my God, Pods at 19.
15:50You got to get rid of this guy.
15:52He's a bum.
15:53You took him at 19, and he is a legitimate, good, secondary score, distributor, whatever.
16:00Yeah.
16:00He's a role player.
16:01Fine.
16:01I agree.
16:02I mean, I think if Pods is on the floor with guys who he should be on the floor with
16:10and
16:10moving forward, I do think he could be a really good player for a really good team.
16:17He's just got to be slotted in that spot.
16:21And the question is, will he be able to do that?
16:25But, like, when he plays with Butler, Curry, and let's say Porzingis was healthy, well,
16:32if he plays like he is now, no.
16:35No.
16:35You can't do that.
16:37What did you make of Kerr's comments about him with Steph and without?
16:40I thought it was interesting.
16:41Well, I mean, Kerr's been kind of saying that about almost every individual.
16:45Right.
16:45And I'm like, quote, unquote, this is his son, Willard, to the haters out there.
16:50You know, I don't know what to do about all that.
16:52But it's just the worst.
16:53Like, what you just said, Stiney, is actually true for every player.
16:56It's true for every player.
16:58It's just at what level are we talking about?
17:00Right.
17:00Like, I'd throw Trey Young into that mix.
17:03Trey Young is not a one.
17:05He needs to be slotted.
17:07They're not going to win as a one.
17:09But, like, he could be a two, maybe, or a three.
17:11How do you all think this – how would this dynasty have gone if Klay was the one?
17:17You mean if Steph's not even here?
17:19Yeah.
17:19It might not be a dynasty.
17:20It's going to be a Hall of Hots.
17:21It's not a dynasty.
17:21It's going to be close.
17:22I bet you win.
17:23You're barely going to be – you might even not be a playoff team.
17:27I mean –
17:27But that's a big component, taking the shift.
17:30Right, but that's just a big – I think that's a big part of every team is –
17:33And sometimes it can be accidental, but you have to fall.
17:36Just like when Wiggins came here and helped win a ring.
17:40You're not a one.
17:41And he didn't want to be either.
17:42You're not a two.
17:44And look at Jordan Poole.
17:45Like, when he was here and he was doing his level best –
17:48and forget the stats of, like, points and all the rest of it, but when he was here
17:51and he was fitting into that, like, third guard role, he was at his best.
17:55And then in Washington, no, in New Orleans, now he can't even really play
18:00because he's not in a spot where he can be, like, the four or the five.
18:05And so I think that's true for anybody.
18:07If Pods goes to another team, a good team, and he's your seventh man, you're going to love him.
18:12But if he's your number two, you're in trouble.
18:15I mean, to me, the bottom line is, if you play – they'll play the Warriors tonight,
18:19and who's going to be the Warriors' leading scorer?
18:24I hope it's Porzingis.
18:25But, you know, it could be Pods, right?
18:28It could be.
18:29It could be –
18:30It could be –
18:30I mean –
18:31It could be Guy Santos.
18:32So listen to us talk about it.
18:34Guy, Melton, Porzingis, Pods.
18:36We just mentioned four people, none of whom should ever be higher than a three on an NBA team.
18:41A movie might play tonight.
18:42Some of them shouldn't be in the first five.
18:44And there it is.
18:46But they're players.
18:47But they're like – I'm not trying to take shots at them.
18:50No.
18:51They're NBA players.
18:52They're rotational players.
18:53Porzingis is maybe a top three, maybe four.
18:57We went out to dinner as a family.
18:59Doesn't happen much.
19:00Came home, watched the game together, and Mia says out loud,
19:04they play hard.
19:06And I was like, that's the price of admission.
19:09But for this group, that's a –
19:11They play hard, man.
19:13But they run out of gas because it's talent.
19:16As the 48 minutes wane, you got to have talent.
19:19That's why we get around –
19:20We were in that game Saturday.
19:21It's such a loaded comment, though, at the professional level.
19:25But –
19:25They play –
19:26First of all, you would never say that if they won a game.
19:28You would never come home.
19:30Well, that's like the girl saying –
19:31He's got a good –
19:32He's got a good personality.
19:33Good personality.
19:34Exactly.
19:34God, I got that so many times.
19:37I mean, I don't know.
19:39Like, shouldn't everybody –
19:40He's cute.
19:40Shouldn't everybody play hard?
19:42This is the National Basketball Association.
19:45But it's cool to the Warriors.
19:46I feel like they go harder than the –
19:48They're trying.
19:49It's just something, man.
19:50They're trying.
19:51Well, they're trying because these players are playing for their life.
19:54I'm fighting for my life.
19:56Like, they're fighting for their career.
19:57That's why they're playing.
19:59And, you know, you watch the Warriors now,
20:00and it reminds me a little bit of, like, High Point from the tournament,
20:03or Iowa.
20:04Like, shot a Iowa, knock it off, Florida.
20:07You know, it's like you're not as good as your opponent,
20:10so you have to really play hard,
20:11and that's what the Warriors are right now.
20:14This week, they might actually be better than their opponents, though.
20:17High Point?
20:18No, the Warriors.
20:19Oh, yeah.
20:20The Warriors.
20:21I mean, maybe.
20:22They might go 3-0 this week.
20:24Here's the way I look at pods.
20:26Maybe.
20:27People can come down my road.
20:28Yep.
20:29They already have.
20:30We do.
20:30Yeah, we do.
20:31Let's say the Warriors had Curry, Butler,
20:34you know, another good player.
20:36And you have to throw five guys out on the floor,
20:39and pods is your fifth best player,
20:42and or Moody is your fifth best player.
20:44I would rather have pods as my fifth best player on a certain team.
20:49And the reason is because, you know, Moody can do a couple things.
20:53But, like, I, pods to me can do more than Moody when he's got an offensive advantage.
21:01Which is.
21:02Curry an offensive advantage.
21:03Which is what these guys have when Curry's playing great and Butler's playing great.
21:08Now pods gets the ball and he's got a little advantage.
21:11I like him in that spot better than Moody.
21:14Moody to me, 3 and D, I'm taking that.
21:16Yeah, are you focusing on one side of the ball, though?
21:18Yeah, I'm focusing on making a play.
21:21Yeah, I'd much rather have Moody play the defense.
21:22And he's shooting damn near 40 from 3.
21:25Yeah, I mean, Moody's on the floor, but that's not his job.
21:27You know?
21:28I mean, Moody's fine.
21:31But, like, who was telling me that somebody threw out 3 for 36 for pods?
21:37Something like that.
21:37Oh, yeah, but that was the Moody deal.
21:40Moody's on the floor, it was 3 for 39.
21:42Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:43I mean, I don't.
21:45Is he getting one more sit than pod?
21:48Yes.
21:48He's getting more than Moody.
21:49And I'm trying to tell people.
21:51I think he will, too.
21:52Why would you say that real quick, Dibs?
21:54Because Steve Kerr loves him and he sleeps on Kerr's couch.
21:57And I'm joking.
21:58But I think that market forces and inflation and the cap and all the rest of it.
22:02And also, I do think that he's more of a connecting player in the eyes of Steve Kerr and Mike
22:08Dunleavy.
22:09Would probably have more interest, too, on the open market if he got there.
22:15Don't you think?
22:16And also, I do.
22:18I wonder what pods thinks.
22:20Because he's worth.
22:20Oh, 150.
22:21That's what I can't do.
22:22Over one.
22:23One year.
22:24One year, 150.
22:25And Moody signed his deal.
22:27Moody signed his deal before he got better.
22:30Okay.
22:30We have to remember that.
22:31That's a good call.
22:31So, like, pods, where pods is now, I don't know if pods ever gets much better than this.
22:36Maybe a little bit.
22:37But Moody went from where he was.
22:39He signed the deal.
22:40And now he's better.
22:42Now the deal is kind of a bargain, I think.
22:45All righty, gents.
22:46Yeah, I think it's a fair number.
22:48But I...
22:49Yeah.
22:50We got to go.
22:51No, it's one of the rare circumstances where we actually want to kick you out.
22:55No.
22:56No, we don't want to, but we have to.
22:57He didn't know how to finesse it.
22:58I'm like, get him, Stiney.
22:59Shout out, Drake.
23:00Yeah, Ramona Shelburne is going to be on with us in like...
23:03Ramona?
23:03Yeah, in like 10 minutes.
23:05That's fine.
23:05Ramona Shelburne is the only time she could do it.
23:08I was like, but you're going to make me make Stiney put his jacket on.
23:11And she's like, yup.
23:13No, she said, who's he?
23:15Who are you?
23:16Yeah.
23:17Nice.
23:18So it's got to me, too.
23:18So I will gladly step aside for Ramona Shelburne.
23:22Absolutely.
23:22Okay.
23:23So I'll do that right now?
23:24So be it.
23:25Yeah.
23:25I'll take it from here, Stiney.
23:27Okay.
23:27Thank you very much, guys.
23:27Have a great day.
23:28Okay.
23:29Hey, baseball's back.
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