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Are NCAA coaches changing their coaching styles?
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00:00I don't know if it's Tom Izzo or it ends up being the coach of the Maryland women's team.
00:05More so than ever, I see people who are concerned about a coach who is yelling at their player as,
00:14I mean, the way it's gone since the dawn of time, by the way.
00:19So I don't know what it is.
00:21It's the mental health change in everything we do now because people might be a little bit more, hey, you
00:29got to think about their feelings.
00:31You can't just yell at them.
00:34Some people can't handle being talked to this way.
00:36So that it's part of the whole mental health issue.
00:39And this person then might go off in a place.
00:43Anybody ever see Bobby Knight coach?
00:45Anybody that's afraid of somebody yelling at them?
00:49Imagine if Bobby Knight coached in today's game.
00:52Forget about it.
00:53You know how many lawsuits there would be against him because he yelled at them?
00:59Strangling's illegal.
01:00Yeah.
01:01But Bobby Knight to me is a totally different animal.
01:04He deserved everything he got.
01:05He was a great AA hole who abused his players, was a psycho.
01:08But I also don't like, I agree with you guys, but I don't like the commentary that he clearly cares
01:15as if if you're not screaming at your player as a coach, you don't care.
01:18Like, it doesn't matter whether you scream or not.
01:21If you're successful.
01:22Like, if Michigan State sucked and Tom Izzo was coaching this way, then you can say, is this the right
01:29approach?
01:29But he is the most successful coach, really, of the last 20 years when you consider the consistency.
01:34Yeah.
01:34Like, if you are going to be a successful coach, you do have to meet players where they are.
01:40Right.
01:40Like, if you completely alienate your players, you're not going to have a culture where they trust you and you're
01:46able to be the leader of the team.
01:48At the same time, I will just say I was raised in a family where if I come home and
01:53I'm bitching about the coach, my parents would say, that's your coach.
01:56Yeah.
01:56They're making the decisions.
01:58They wouldn't take your side.
01:59No.
01:59They're not calling the coach.
02:01They wouldn't demand a meeting with the administration at the school.
02:06Right.
02:06No.
02:07But it's different nowadays.
02:08You know what I mean?
02:09It's totally different.
02:11But that's not the coach's fault.
02:13Like, there has to be some expectation.
02:16There are coaches out there that are not good and that are a-holes that you need other adults to
02:20step in and kind of figure out, like, what are you doing here?
02:23How are you running things?
02:25Like, you know, just because you're a coach doesn't mean, like, all right, we should – everything you do is
02:31right.
02:31There are a lot of coaches that have ruined players because they don't know how to coach.
02:37Right.
02:37Right.
02:37And I agree that yelling – and I agree with Curtis.
02:40It's not about yelling.
02:41Some coaches – like, Belichick wasn't a big yeller and screamer and getting in guys' face, but Parcells was.
02:48Like, I think about Al Skinner at Boston College, a very successful coach.
02:52And seeing what they've done since he left, it was even more impressive.
02:55And he never yelled.
02:57Yeah.
02:57I mean, so it's really not about – I think the coaches that are a little bit more fiery nowadays
03:04tend to get a bad rap because of the way we got to walk a fine line and how we
03:13handle players and treat them emotionally and their feelings and those type of things.
03:18So I think, you know, some of those coaches, like Izzo, who's been around forever, you know, he's built this
03:25culture there.
03:25So Charles Barkley can say that.
03:27But you also know that if you're a player who's going to play for him, you know exactly what he
03:33is.
03:34Right.
03:34It's a little bit akin to somebody moving to Southie and being upset that there are roof decks there.
03:42Or moving to East Boston and being bothered that you hear an airplane.
03:46Like, you know what Tom Izzo is, and you're choosing to go play for him.
03:51Like, grow up.
03:54Yeah, like, I think there needs to be a balance, though, right?
03:57Like, you can't just yell all the time, and you can't also just be quiet all the time.
04:02Like, some moments call for energy and yelling, and other moments call for the complete opposite and being calm and
04:09being reserved.
04:10Like, I think you have to find a balance, and it's different player to player.
04:14Like, that's the thing.
04:16And, Greg, you make that point.
04:17Like, you know what Tom Izzo is.
04:19If you don't respond well to that coaching, you should probably look elsewhere.
04:23Right.
04:23And you should kind of know more about yourself, and it's a player-to-player thing.
04:27And it's really, the people who are complaining are not the, for the most part, are not the players that
04:32play for Izzo.
04:33It's the ones that look and go, wait a second.
04:35You can't just yell at kids like that.
04:37Like, those are the ones that are complaining.
04:39Well, I felt like their reaction was especially intense with regard to the Maryland head coach.
04:46What she was doing in that clip looked totally appropriate to me as a complete outsider.
04:52Yeah.
04:53Yeah, she's very close to her star player's face.
04:56But if you, I'm not a lip reader, so I rely on what other people are observing.
05:00But she's saying something like, this is your moment.
05:04Like, rise to the occasion.
05:06And, yeah, it's fiery.
05:07But, hell yeah, like, you want a coach who's not just going to sit on the bench with their legs
05:12crossed and be like, well, I guess she's bad tonight.
05:15Give it the old college try.
05:17To me, it's so clear because this is something that in college sports happens a lot.
05:22And happens a lot in women's sports, I will say.
05:25Okay, this coach is facing accusations of an abusive environment.
05:30It's so clear to me where the line should be if you are respectful or not.
05:35You can be fiery, but you need to be respectful to your players.
05:39You can't be calling them names.
05:41Right.
05:41You can't be derogatory.
05:42You can't be putting their –
05:44But see, then even now –
05:44You can't put them at injury or health risk.
05:46No, no, but, like, the name thing, right?
05:48Because we just talked about it with Jason Tatum, and I believe it was Coach K.
05:52It was like, oh, you a soft St. Louis dude, right?
05:55You know what I mean?
05:56Yeah.
05:56Like, so that would bother you.
06:00That's totally different than calling somebody, like, a derogatory name.
06:03Well, I'm like –
06:04If you're something – if my coach points to me and says you're acting soft, that, to me, that's, like,
06:09fair criticism.
06:10Right.
06:10Okay, am I acting soft?
06:11I probably am.
06:12Right, well, that's what I'm saying.
06:13Like, derogatory, we know the difference.
06:16Right.
06:16That's what I'm saying.
06:17It's so obvious.
06:17But there'll be that great line, though, where people would be like, how can you call your player soft, right?
06:22There'll be people who are like that nowadays.
06:24Were you afraid of Parcells?
06:27I was afraid of Parcells in the sense that the reason why I was afraid of him is because I
06:33knew my future was in his hands.
06:37Right.
06:37So you were afraid of screwing up.
06:39Right, because I would get fired.
06:41Right.
06:41That's a good thing.
06:43Yes.
06:44But that's the way – but to me, that comes more from, my opinion, how you're brought up, how you're
06:52raised.
06:53Definitely.
06:53You know, some of the younger coaches that you – or some of the coaches you have when you're younger,
06:58right?
06:59So for me, that's more of, like, it didn't bother me for him to yell at me because I was
07:07just raised and brought up a different way.
07:09Like, you know.
07:10And it's like the soft bigotry of low expectations.
07:13Like, women, for some reason, can't be coached the same way as a man because they can't handle it.
07:19Which is ridiculous.
07:20It's absurd.
07:20And that's why people were outraged.
07:23Like, I can't believe this woman is yelling at one of her players.
07:27Like, and somebody texted in, said the player has – spoke afterwards and said that they like to be coached
07:33that way.
07:34Like, if you're successful coaching and the players are okay with your coaching, it's none of my damn business how
07:39you do it.
07:39Yeah, I mean, she did.
07:41I mean, we – you know, if you watch the Dallas Cowboys documentary with – when Jimmy Johnson was like
07:49– the one guy was like, oh, he's got asthma.
07:51He was like, well, send him down to the asthma field or whatever it was.
07:54It's like, you know, this is –
07:55He's another asthma denier.
07:57Like Cam Scadamoo.
07:59Bill Parcells had his fupa on full display, I'm sure, too.
08:02Send him to the asthma field, like, you know.
08:04But it's the new way, I think – and this is my opinion.
08:08I think the way that mental health has been pushed on the game, people feel like yelling at a person
08:17is going to take them to a dark place.
08:19I think that's a different thing because there are people who have real mental health challenges,
08:24and it doesn't come from my coaches making me sprint too much and she's screaming at me.
08:29It might be if it's – or he.
08:31It might be if it's something that's really intensely abusive, but a lot of times it has nothing to do
08:35with one thing or the other.
08:37But I think the bigger picture –
08:38It's not just sports.
08:39It's also in life.
08:40Like you can't – you know, you can't yell at somebody at work who's not doing a good job because
08:46it causes an international incident.
08:48Right.
08:48And generally why – and I'm not saying that – I'm saying, Meg, a big picture.
08:54Right.
08:54Why can't we yell at people?
08:56Why can't we yell at – you can.
08:58No, no, no.
08:59But to Greg's –
09:00I've been yelling at all of us.
09:01No, no.
09:01To Greg's point, I'm talking about like yelling at people at work and saying you're not doing the job or
09:06you're trash at what you're doing.
09:08We can't do it because people will say, well, you don't know what that person's dealing with mentally.
09:13What was your strategy when you were coaching Brockton, the boxers?
09:16My coach –
09:17Were you a yeller?
09:18I wasn't a yeller, but I was a giver to you wrong.
09:21Okay.
09:21Okay.
09:21Oh.
09:22You know what I mean?
09:23Okay.
09:23Okay.
09:23Wow.
09:24Yeah, like so I wasn't a yeller, but remember Brockton was different than a Rivers or a school –
09:32Shot at Curtis.
09:33No, no.
09:33It's just different.
09:34Like the coaching –
09:35The challenges that –
09:36The coaching worked back-to-back most improved.
09:38Not many people do that.
09:39The challenges that those kids had to deal with were much different –
09:44Right.
09:45But the help was off.
09:46Than the challenges that other kids – so you have to give it to them straight up.
09:50I will say I coached as an assistant at a very elite school.
09:56And the head coach let me know that one person on our team's parent had a big problem with the
10:03running test, the conditioning test that we were giving.
10:06Because they felt that it was way too hard.
10:09Oh.
10:10And I could not believe that a parent did that.
10:13That surprised you?
10:15Yes.
10:15That a running test is too hard?
10:18Yeah.
10:18If you're not conditioned to play at the sport, you can't play.
10:21Right.
10:21They should never – like – I'm not – I don't buy the coaches that are like, don't give him
10:26any water.
10:27He's like, it's 95 degrees out here.
10:30Don't give him – like, I'm not into that world.
10:32Like, there are some –
10:32No, that's what I'm saying.
10:34That's hard on coaches.
10:35That's bad for a player's health.
10:36That's not – we had a salesperson who worked here quite some time ago whose mom called and complained that
10:43he wasn't getting enough accounts.
10:45Stop.
10:46Are you being serious?
10:48Yeah.
10:48Holy cow.
10:49Wait.
10:51That is wild.
10:52That's insane.
10:53I need the name off air ASAP.
10:56I mean, so it's not surprising to me at all.
10:59And the moms – or him and the moms probably felt like, oh, they treat me different.
11:07They're not giving me an opportunity.
11:09Cut the cord.
11:10And so I think – and it goes back to the reason why the mom calls is because now he's
11:18not the same.
11:19My Joey or my Jillian is not the same lovely, bubbly person because they're being treated differently, and that's affecting
11:28them mentally.
11:29And that's why I said the bigger picture is the mental health.
11:33Rhode Island texter says Mac Jones is a good example of the coach's personality matters.
11:39Well, he had Nick Saban in college.
11:41He won a national championship.
11:42Yeah.
11:42But I guess they're saying that Bill didn't –
11:45But that was the whole argument at the time, right?
11:47Mac was always asking why they were doing something and wanted – you needed to explain to him exactly what
11:52the reasoning behind it was.
11:53And Bill was like, no, just go do it.
11:56Just do it.
11:56I'm telling you to do it.
11:57But to be fair, having Joe Judge and Matt Patricia as your offensive coordinators probably deserves a why.
12:02No, Curtis, totally get that.
12:04I 100% agree.
12:05I'm just saying that was the philosophical difference there.
12:08Right, but – and remember, the old head coaches, it's – you don't get to ask me why.
12:13Why is Joe Judge Mike – or Matt Patricia my coach?
12:17Don't matter why.
12:18Yeah.
12:18I made the decision.
12:19So you have to learn to play the game.
12:22And if you're Mac Jones or you were at that point, you just got to suck it up and you
12:27got to take what comes with you.
12:28Because if you stop to talk, all it does is create this bad thing for you.