- 3 hours ago
Category
📺
TVTranscript
00:16The book Yoni Shakti I wrote between 2010 and 2012 and Yoni Shakti is a woman's guide
00:26to power and freedom through yoga and tantra it's about bringing people back into a respectful
00:34reconnection with the rhythms of earth and their vitality of life I was interested to see who else
00:43is connecting to these practices and that is how I found out about the school in Denmark and I was
00:51like that is interesting so I put a two-line reference almost like a footnote and I didn't
00:59think any more about it until 2020 when I was contacted by a reader and she expressed horror
01:08because she had been studying at that school and knew about the terrible things that had happened
01:15and then from that I connected with other people who'd had similar experiences so they all were
01:21saying the same kind of thing so I found their website and this little Danish yoga studio was
01:31actually part of this Atman International Federation there are members across the world and when you
01:40look on each one each one has got a different name in Romania it's called Lisa in Sweden it's also
01:48called
01:48Nata yoga so when you get to England Tara so you wouldn't know that's anything to do with it and
01:56at
01:56this point I was like oh my god it's everywhere it was my life okay this is 10 years ago
02:07for me but
02:08there are still women going through this now they claim that it was consensual and frame me as a liar
02:18I wanted to move to kind of leave from this position I was and he grabbed both my wrists and
02:23put them
02:24on the bed like be quiet this felt like I've got to get out of here I couldn't take any
02:29more at that
02:29point he is portrayed as sexually obsessed this is what we see from the files the testimony of Ashley
02:40he's the missing piece that I needed just watch them squirt it started and ended with him
03:14July 2019 when I left Paris I guess I knew that there was sexual abuse happening but I didn't at
03:23that point piece together trafficking but I was just on this kind of constant reading rampage becoming
03:31really kind of obsessed with understanding it more and more the school was still operating everything
03:38was fine and I just knew that every single day more and more women were going through those same
03:43experiences and being sent to Paris so I actually got in contact with me and basically revealed why
03:52she had left the school I was just up the fuck is going on so I confronted the main coordinators
04:02from
04:02Sweden and they're just like it's all lies I think he sort of thought he could make some change from
04:10within and that perhaps people would understand and they could break free from Bivalaru and continue all
04:15the good parts of the school and he wasn't able to recognize that Bivalaru was the school the response
04:22was our belief is so strong that we will do whatever it takes and we will support him no matter
04:28what and in
04:29that moment I just felt like this this shudder and this coldness come over me just thinking like
04:34that's the sort of indoctrination that leads people to drink kool-aid that's the Jonestown's sort of
04:40ideology of you're so aligned with this individual that you would do whatever it takes at whatever cost to
04:49protect him and I just got so scared I thought holy shit these they're gone so it was around May
05:012020 that I first spoke out hi everyone I'm Ashley and I run the cult awareness page this is the
05:07first
05:08story there was a lot of fear of being judged or misunderstood at the time there was so much fear
05:13in me and I was still trying to understand what had happened and I still wasn't sure where I sat
05:17and
05:17how I felt about it and I was kind of oscillating between being really certain that something was
05:22wrong and that I'd left a cult and then also at other times wondering if I was wrong to leave
05:28and
05:29that perhaps I'd fallen off a spiritual path but I just kind of had this need that I needed I
05:34just
05:34needed to say something ask the teachers actually ask them are you sending women to be initiated by
05:40the Guru is that happening just watch them squirm I thought that I would feel really silly if I just
05:46went to my local police station and said hey I had this experience in France can you help me I
05:52just
05:52felt really silly I didn't know where to go so when I first heard about the experience of the people
06:05in
06:05the first school in Scandinavia they put me in touch with Ashley Ashley Freckleton and what she sent me I've
06:13never forgotten it I actually got it received it here I remember it coming through on the email and it
06:17was her testimony the photo was taken the night before I was trafficked to a foreign country for
06:27want of a better of a word a cult people don't show up at yoga classes because you know they
06:32want to do
06:33bad in the world they're like looking for self-improvement to be a better human so that's why she's there
06:39and
06:39there she is in the middle of London looking like really vibrant young woman who's totally destroyed
06:44by this experience it's just wickedness to do that isn't it Uma wanted to publish my testimony anonymously
06:53in the book that was the first time I felt like she gave a voice sort of on a larger
06:59scale but then
07:00they came after her in April of 2021 I got a letter of claim a legal letter it basically says
07:10that all
07:10the allegations I've made are false defamatory severe and it's going to cause their client loss
07:16of potential students serious financial losses is their main concern initially I think I felt disbelief
07:26and then I was just terrified they want me to tell them the identity and whereabouts of all the
07:34parties who provided me with the information for you to make the defamatory allegations they want to go
07:39after the survivors that's what this is about isn't it the whole process ended up with me going to court
07:46three times and it took about two years to complete and in the end the judge decided that they had
07:56been
07:57out of time and that there were so many procedural errors that I won the call to get it thrown
08:02out of
08:03court it couldn't go any further it was a disaster financially disastrous yeah but I kept thinking you
08:11know the stress I was under was nothing compared to the deep suffering that those young women had gone
08:19through what I felt was a kind of sickening sense that these really essentially good teachings had been
08:30twisted up to serve the greed for power of the person who was in charge who was teaching them
08:53people didn't really speak about him as a human being more of a spiritual being
09:00we were really encouraged to look at him as somebody who was enlightened and elevated and whatever he
09:08taught was the truth almost as if he was Jesus
09:16I knew that the school had originated in Romania and I was told don't bother looking him up because
09:24there's this long history with Romania and religious persecution and he started teaching yoga when it was
09:32illegal and he's been persecuted and demonized by the Romanian authorities and that's all that you'll find so
09:41don't bother this is a neighborhood in the outskirts of Bucharest it's called Ferentard and this is known because the
09:59houses that are used as
10:00as ashrams by the group Misa most of them were around the streets
10:11you can see that there are no windows or very small windows very high fences many of them have very
10:18large satellite antennas and in 2004 police got information that there was much more going on inside these houses
10:29than some normal yoga classes than some normal yoga classes
10:35the police had received a lot of complaints coming from parents who told the authorities that their children were missing
10:59because they had joined this movement Misa
11:02because they had joined this movement Misa
11:04my exact împrejarea că copiilor aderaseră la o mișcare aderaseră la un cult și ajunsese să se rupă din de
11:15familia din nucleu fără o explicație foarte clară
11:21besides the fact that a lot of minors were believed to live in those ashrams the police told the media
11:28that they had information that there might be human trafficking going on that there might be organized crime activities
11:45bineînțeles că am avut niște surprize după ce am pătruns
11:52I'm sorry.
11:54I'm sorry.
11:56I'm sorry.
11:57I'm sorry.
11:58Sorry.
11:58But I'm waiting for a few people from the interlopening world
12:02to find some people
12:05who are well-working in the hall.
12:07There are no...
12:10Let's go here.
12:11Let's go here.
12:12Let's go here.
12:13Let's go here.
12:14Let's go here.
12:15At any question I was opposed to,
12:19they were opposed to me.
12:24One of them were scared,
12:26they were angry.
12:29They felt free.
12:32I was just, I can't say,
12:35I was just scared.
12:40There were, I think,
12:41about 20 or so,
12:43about 15,
12:45or not even all,
12:46in the head of the four,
12:48an image of the Bivolar.
13:05I was born in Transylvania,
13:07which is a very captivating place
13:11and magical place.
13:14Yoga was entered through
13:15the contact with my mom,
13:19which was always a search for spirituality.
13:23It was a more exciting world,
13:26where we, in the past,
13:28didn't have access,
13:29because it was communism,
13:31it was a deeper mentality.
13:34We didn't have access
13:35to such information.
13:39After the entire period of communism,
13:42people, once again,
13:43need to be agitated,
13:46to believe,
13:47and to deposit the hope
13:49and the illusion of someone else.
13:52someone else.
13:57I think my mom started
13:58when I was 11,
14:0012 years old.
14:01I said, of course,
14:02that I would participate
14:03and I was curious.
14:05I was curious.
14:07It was quite captivating
14:09to discover
14:10that there is a spiritual guru
14:13that created this yoga school,
14:15that there is someone
14:17who has answers
14:18to all our questions.
14:22and that there is a spiritual guru
14:24that we found
14:25that we found
14:26that there was something
14:26on our master's
14:28that there was something
14:29that we found
14:30that there was something
14:30that we found
14:35The kids saw it
14:38as the supreme
14:40as the supreme symbol,
14:44the masculine symbol,
14:44the masculine symbol.
14:45You can see
14:46that in my vision
14:47of a child
14:48of 15 years
14:49I started to see
14:50myself as a god.
14:52in my life.
15:00I said, of course,
15:02that we were talking
15:02about the investigation
15:04and we had to be
15:05very proud
15:06and implemented
15:09this vision
15:11that the outside
15:12we want evil,
15:14that there is a conspiracy,
15:17how spiritual we are.
15:21Right after the raids that were taking place,
15:24MISA started building up a defense
15:27and organizing protests.
15:30And then, exactly when all the heat was going on
15:33and all eyes were on MISA,
15:38Gregoriami Volaru decided to appear
15:40on this very popular TV show,
15:42Mario Stucca, just a few days after the raids had happened.
15:53Good evening.
15:55Good evening.
15:56Good evening.
15:56I would like to say, from the beginning,
15:58that I'm not the leader of MISA,
16:02but only the mentor of these movements.
16:05What do you say, Guru?
16:07I don't say Guru,
16:09except for the press
16:10and for those who are trying to criticize me.
16:14I have always considered that I am
16:18professor of yoga, Gregorian Vivolaru.
16:20Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA?
16:23The sympathizers of MISA?
16:25So, I never do sex with anyone.
16:27Because having sex is something degrading.
16:30Did you have sex with one of the sympathizers of MISA?
16:33So, if we made love, we made love.
16:38We made love.
16:38Not the degradation of sexuality,
16:40but the romantic relationships,
16:42friendly relationships,
16:43as we all know,
16:45based on love, respect, reciprocity.
16:51And my initial intention was in the beginning of the year 2000.
16:59I was a virgin.
17:02I don't want to give a lot of details about my initial intention,
17:06but it wasn't a very special moment.
17:10I didn't feel any pleasure.
17:12I stepped in a mouth.
17:14I had four full of blood,
17:17but it didn't feel very happy.
17:20But I took my time to put my tears in my mouth.
17:29When I met it,
17:30I had 15 years ago
17:30and I was nearly six months ago.
17:33Yes.
17:37Everything is in manifest, everything is in resonance and God is the supreme creator of everything that exists,
17:47and the spirit, in the yoga practice, must be known as much deeper, to reach the state of indumnezeire.
17:55A obținut oare carismă ieșită din comun, deci carisma nu era atât fizică, pentru că fizic nu este un bărbat
18:04și nu a fost niciodată un bărbat atregător.
18:07Era faptul că îl transfiguram constant și îl puneam pe un piedestal constant.
18:15Bine, am să realizez aceasta pentru toți cei care mă urmăresc, timp de un minut,
18:21dacă este pot să creez o stare celor care sunt deschiși să recepteze, de fericire,
18:30branșarea mea la sferele infinite de forță benefică care există în macrocosmos, deci eu am să încep acum.
18:38He said that he's going to kind of transmit a state of absolute happiness to the viewers who are open
18:46to believing in his philosophy.
19:07You would start to wonder if that man is okay from a mental point of view.
19:20I've been involved in fighting against types of movement and cults for many years.
19:28So that's how I began to be interested in MISA.
19:35I wanted to understand the motive of parody, what was going on with MISA in France.
19:42And I started to read and slowly investigate.
19:46It was something very well organized and always the same.
19:52So they organize a kind of strategy where they ask women from everywhere around the world except from France
20:02to come in France for initiation to improve their personal development and so on.
20:10After that, they go back to the origin country.
20:14And when you are a thousand kilometers, what can you do? Just nothing.
20:22It's difficult to accept that somebody is completely under the control of someone else.
20:29First of all, you absolutely need to have testimonies from the victims.
20:34And it was a kind of protection for Bivolari to not have compliance influence from French victims.
20:41I had reported to the Royal Charity Commission in the UK.
20:45Nothing had come of that.
20:47Like I put something on Crimestoppers International and I followed that up maybe once or twice.
20:53And it never came to fruition.
20:56No one ever got back to me.
20:57No one ever seemed to want to take my testimony.
20:59You started?
21:02I put some on my computer.
21:06That's about the Omaninia guru cult.
21:10And I quickly found this article in Australia newspapers.
21:17That is, Omaninia guru cult, the testimony of Ashley.
21:24Hello, Ashley.
21:26allow me to introduce myself.
21:30It actually is, yeah, it's pretty wild
21:32because from where I was sitting at that point,
21:34he was just some random guy in France.
21:37And yet, he's the missing piece that I needed
21:40to connect in with the foreign police.
21:43So I was in touch with Ashley
21:45and transmitted this testimony
21:47to the Department of Police
21:50in charge of what is going on in terms of cults in France.
22:05We knew there were difficulties with this movement,
22:08but before 2021, in reality,
22:12we wouldn't start an investigation
22:14on this movement.
22:20The first crucial step is the audit of the victims.
22:23The first step is the audit of the victims.
22:24The Kymad,
22:25which is the first step,
22:25which is a very specialized anti-cult unit,
22:29did reach out and said
22:31that they wanted to receive my testimony verbally.
22:34Then they asked me
22:36if I wanted to make a formal complaint,
22:38and I said yes.
22:41We said that there was a possibility
22:44that Gregorian Bivolaru
22:46would be on the French territory.
22:49But it was very precious
22:50because there was a risk
22:51that Gregorian Bivolaru
22:53would escape
22:53and, by the network that was in place,
22:56would disappear
22:56and that we could never put his hand on it.
23:21Let's see.
23:21After the raids,
23:22Gregorian Bivolaru denied all of the charges.
23:33But then, a trial had begun
23:35and he was nowhere to be found.
23:38He didn't show up in court.
23:41And the next thing we found out
23:42was that Gregorian Bivolaru
23:44appeared somewhere in Sweden.
23:47Capturati!
23:48Gregorian Bivolaru,
23:49cel mai vânat român din ultima vreme,
23:50a fost prins
23:51și reținut în Suedia.
23:53There had only been like 15 years
23:56since the fall of the communist regime.
24:01So, MISA was using this argument
24:03that was still sensitive in Romania,
24:07saying that Romania is still a corrupt country,
24:11is still a country where police use force.
24:15everything
24:15in order to convince
24:18the Swedish authorities
24:19to refuse
24:20extradition requests.
24:34In 2004,
24:37escaped Romania
24:38to go to Sweden.
24:40So, officially,
24:41was leaving in Sweden,
24:42but there is evidence
24:43that since I was a kid,
24:44at least 2007,
24:47he went in France
24:47and stayed in France.
24:59everything I did was very much connected with the school.
25:03It was my life for quite a few years.
25:08And then I started to date people outside of the school
25:12and met somebody and had a child,
25:15so my focus shifted.
25:19I was quite disappointed
25:20because there wasn't so much understanding
25:22that life with a small child requires huge amounts of dedication
25:28and energy,
25:29and I felt very much left behind.
25:34I was dedicating myself wholeheartedly to motherhood,
25:38and a friend of mine called me and said,
25:41look, you know,
25:42there are some things that I would like to share with you.
25:46So, my friend came an evening
25:49and sat on the sofa
25:50and began to give me accounts
25:53of women having really awful experiences.
25:59For me, I went in because I wanted to.
26:02Like, I really, really wanted it.
26:04So, I never felt that I had to do anything
26:07against my own will.
26:08It was 100% my choice.
26:15But at the same time,
26:17there was a huge underlying pressure
26:19for a lot of people to do things
26:22against themselves
26:24and against their will
26:25and against their boundaries
26:27because it wasn't really that safety
26:30to say,
26:31actually, I don't want to do this.
26:33I was a little bit less.
26:40But...
26:40Video chat-urile are...
26:42a fost o afacere
26:43destul de recentă
26:44în perioada în care eu ajunsesem
26:46în nucleo.
26:50Nu am putut să...
26:51oficial nu puteam să fac așa ceva
26:53pentru că nu avea vâstra.
26:55Da?
26:55Cum am spus,
26:56este lucrul cel mai normal
26:57să faci câteva apariții
26:58pe acolo,
26:59pe pașaportul altor fete.
27:01because it was a time when you were willing to do what you wanted.
27:06It was in that period when I understood magnitude
27:10and when I saw the 40-year-olds,
27:13when I saw the bought clothes,
27:15when I saw the hotels in Costinești,
27:20and I confirmed that the prosperity of a non-profit organization
27:25is from the sites, the video-chat.
27:36I signed a contract, they took a photo,
27:40and they said one of the reasons why this place is so special
27:46is because the profit from the site goes to him, goes to Greek.
27:59In terms of our growth and our development in the school,
28:05it started and ended with Greek.
28:09There were very many teachers in the school
28:13who were incredibly intelligent and charismatic,
28:19and all of them were just so devoted to this human being.
28:25But anybody familiar with the yin and yang symbol,
28:29we know that in each light, there's always a speck of darkness.
28:35Just like in each darkness, there's always a speck of light.
28:41I guess I made an assumption that the speck of darkness in him was really small.
28:48But from everything that's been uncovered,
28:51maybe the speck of darkness is much bigger than what we assumed.
28:58Missa and Gregorian Bivolaru have always presented Bivolaru as both a victim and a hero.
29:10that he has always been oppressed, attacked, harassed, jailed, tortured, beaten,
29:18by the hands of the former secret police of Romania.
29:24It's called the Securitate.
29:31During the communist regime, we indeed lived in a closed and totalitarian society.
29:38That is true.
29:40But now, years after, we can actually look up in these files
29:47and see what really happened.
30:03The first mention of the Securitate surveilling Gregorian Bivolaru dates back from 1971.
30:18Back then, Gregorian Bivolaru was 19 years old
30:23and he was in his last high school year.
30:27They discovered that he was in contact with foreign citizens
30:33whom he was asking for pornographic materials such as like photos, magazines.
30:42So we have one of those letters.
30:45I think it was 72.
30:49I know a lot of things about your sexual freedom in Sweden
30:54and I want to obtain pictures.
30:57Do you want to send me sexy photos and sexy slides from Sweden?
31:02Another letter, I have a great sympathy for the German people
31:07and in your sexy photos I can see the emancipated comprehension of the sexuality in Germany.
31:14Later on, he was actually convicted to prison
31:18because he owned and distributed pornographic materials.
31:23He was not jailed because he was a yoga practitioner.
31:26This is what we see from the files.
31:28In the summer of 1989, raids were organized by Securitate in several cities in Romania
31:36to dismantle groups that were practicing yoga.
31:43Yoga had been forbidden since 1982.
31:46Vivolar was leading such a group so he was again detained.
31:51But this time, the Securitate decided that his place was not in a prison
31:56but in a psychiatric medical unit.
32:03He is basically portrayed as sexually obsessed.
32:10So, in his own words, back from 1989, he tells the Securitate agents
32:17that one day, somewhere in 1986 or 1987,
32:22I met near my house a young 12-year-old brunette girl.
32:28I think she was a gypsy.
32:32And I asked this close friend of mine to have intimate relations with the girl
32:39and afterwards to present her to me
32:43in order for me to initiate her in sexual tantrum.
32:48This shows a potential interest in very young women
32:52since so many, many years ago.
32:56And also, it goes on saying that Vivolar, over the years,
33:01has asked his women friends to recruit other women for him.
33:08He was subject to psychiatric exam,
33:13which says that he lacks the mental capacity
33:17to assess his own actions, his own deeds.
33:21And then, just a few months later,
33:24the communist regime in Romania fell.
33:28And soon after, special commission of this psychiatric unit
33:33decided to release Gregorian Vivolarum.
33:36And soon after that, in 1990, the group called MISA took birth.
33:49So after Prague, I travelled back to the UK.
33:55And I started to realise how extremist the teachings and practices of the school were.
34:03And there was this website that was made by people who were enemies of the school.
34:10We were told that it was demonic and it was better not to look at it.
34:15So, New Year's Eve, 21, 22, at home on my own, I did look at it.
34:22And it was like a mirror.
34:26It just confirmed what I was already feeling.
34:31All of those moments of doubt or incongruence now made sense.
34:36And this word, cult, that before I hadn't been willing to accept,
34:42I thought that it was a term that was used to denigrate religion and spirituality
34:47and keep people away from it.
34:50At that point, on that New Year's Eve, I realised for the first time that I had to leave.
34:55And I had to leave completely.
34:57And I had to do something about it and I had to speak out.
35:01And then it became really clear their true colours and what they were actually capable of.
35:12So, they claimed that everything was consensual and framed me as a liar.
35:17And people who I thought were my friends were lying about me and saying, you know, how I'd fallen from
35:24the path.
35:26It made me feel sad that that whole foundation of community,
35:31which had been such an important part of me remaining in there for those years,
35:36was completely inauthentic.
35:39It wasn't a real community, those weren't real friendships.
35:42And there was no opportunity for you to truly be yourself.
35:52I got a phone call from my first relationship at the time, Paula.
35:59Initially, she wasn't prepared to discuss any of it, but she revealed everything.
36:04And it was just the final confirmation that I realised, like, this was the last straw.
36:16The fourth and last visit was in October of 2019.
36:27I wanted to move, to kind of leave from the position I was, and he grabbed both my wrists and
36:34put them on the bed.
36:35Like, be quiet. And then, eventually, a little bit more after that, he didn't keep them, but he put them,
36:42you know, and then took his hands off.
36:44And then, a few minutes afterwards, I started crying so that he would just get off me.
36:51And then he was screaming at me for, like, three hours, saying that I was never going to be invited
36:57there again.
36:58Because I didn't deserve it, because I didn't love him.
37:02Then, after I left his room and I went to the room with the girls, he came into the room,
37:06and he continued saying horrible things to me.
37:09Like, he just repeated everything he said in his room to me alone in front of the girls.
37:15At that point, I said, I'm never again coming here.
37:18Like, I had it really clear, like, this is just, this is the opposite of what I ever thought it
37:23would be, you know?
37:26Like, this is super traumatic, like, it's not enjoyable at all.
37:29Like, I'm being forced to pretend that I want to do something I don't want to, and I'm being humiliated
37:36because I don't want to, you know?
37:42That was the straw that broke the camel's back. I just, I couldn't take any more at that point.
37:47I just felt like I got to get out of here. I can't do this anymore.
37:54This investigator from France contacted me, so I did agree to give my testimony.
38:25I was contacted.
38:28I was contacted.
38:28By this special unit and through the questioning techniques and the use of language of this French unit, I could
38:36tell that they understood.
38:38I gave them my testimony.
38:41I just knew that that's what I had to do.
38:45There was no other choice for me.
38:49By the time they spoke to me, they'd already taken statements from a few others.
38:53And I really felt that, okay, this was 10 years ago for me, but there are still women going through
38:59this now.
39:01I mean, I knew that I was a victim of sex trafficking and rape, and that was clear from, like,
39:06even the therapy that I had done and some of the things that I had read until that point.
39:10But it was something about having the police actually say it back to me after hearing all of my very
39:15personal details for multiple days, having them say, yes, this is what happened.
39:20And it's a very serious crime under French law.
39:23And we will be absolutely pursuing this as far as we can.
39:26I am.
39:28I am.
39:30I am.
39:39I am.
39:44I am.
39:45really found behind his doors.
39:50No one could have ever seen a look.
39:56175 police officers mobilized,
39:58a quarantaine of simultaneous arrests,
40:00all linked to a sectarian yoga group.
40:06He is suspected to have abused hundreds of women.
40:15I can't really find the words.
40:22It just feels like the start of the reckoning
40:25that we all wanted to see happen.
40:39At first, I wasn't sure if it was real.
40:41It was like just a lot of shock and awe
40:45and gratitude and relief.
40:48Come in.
40:57We're not there yet.
40:59This is just the first step in what will be
41:02a pretty lengthy process,
41:03but at least we know he can't be doing this any longer.
41:07Not even.
41:14At the moment of the intervention,
41:16the charges that were held for the movement
41:18were the following.
41:20The abuse of the people in the state of psychological pain
41:24were treated as human beings.
41:26And a violent crime.
41:32Do you think he's a criminal guilty of those crimes?
41:40Once I took my experiences and the events that had happened to me out of the context of their dogma
41:48and applied it to the context of other normal people's reactions, my own feelings and experiences,
41:55legal definitions, then I understood that what had happened was trafficking and rape.
42:06There's a yes in my system and also the story's complicated.
42:20But ultimately the responsibility lies with him.
42:29To me it was just like a bad experience then and then talking to my therapist she was like,
42:34you know, let's just put the name for the things that happened.
42:40When you were kidnapped, she started to use all of these words in therapy,
42:43it was really conflicting, it was like, I don't want to hear that, that's not what happened.
42:49She was like, she really helped me to start putting names on the things that really, like,
42:54to really name properly the things that happened.
42:58And then when I saw the charges that we were accusing him of and then it said,
43:02rape, and then it was an explanation of what rape means for the French law.
43:16It's also called rape.
43:25It's also called rape.
43:33I do worry about the fact that I ultimately resisted and I ultimately did say no,
43:39and I left and I wasn't initiated.
43:42I didn't endure the same horrors that others did.
43:47Therefore, is that an indication that their consent was valid?
43:51Because I was able to say no.
43:56So this is the beginning of the shops on the Cowdy Road.
44:00So you can see the sign from here.
44:02You see it?
44:05They're not going to say that this didn't happen.
44:08They're going to say that everybody consented and therefore no crime occurred.
44:15It's all the debate.
44:17It's obviously what supported the exams are that everyone was free.
44:24Every branch that was open when I left is still open.
44:29They target students particularly.
44:31So it's really upsetting to think that a young impressionable person,
44:35but potentially anyone, could just walk into that yoga studio and have a yoga class,
44:41just like I did, without knowing that it's connected to Bivalaru and Musa and that man.
44:50I see, at my level, as a right practitioner, and because these are often issues that I treat,
44:58that all these young women were under psychological suggestion
45:03when they had suffered the effects of which they played.
45:08What does France do, it's the fact that, in a group and by a certain number of techniques of condition,
45:15you prive your free-arbitre.
45:20I think that if there should be a trial, it doesn't happen before a year,
45:27it's not sure, but not before two or three years.
45:32We wait.
45:34We wait.
45:35We wait in a way actively.
45:36In French, I don't know if your translation will get it,
45:40we wait.
45:42We wait.
45:42We wait.
45:45We wait.
45:47We wait.
46:01it's been crazy actually you know just still trying to make sense of it all just finding
46:10myself again i miss the community i miss the teaching i miss being so incredibly inspired
46:25and i've also learned that we can't just keep our gaze up to the light when we're standing in a
46:32pile
46:36of the time that i spent actually in there and working alongside the other community members
46:42i still feel like there's a sense of accomplishment behind all of that
46:48i have often wondered what my life would be like if i hadn't been in this organization for seven
46:54years maybe i would have had children i don't know like maybe i would have been in a long-term
47:00monogamous relationship for that time it's just really hard to know what would have happened and
47:05how life would have been
47:10i think it's good to be curious about why we're here in this incredible planet
47:21but life is hard life is painful life is confusing a lot of really horrible things happen
47:30and we don't have the explanation for why and maybe we're not supposed to
47:39anumite vise din copilărie ale mele au fost pulberate de această sectă și această acest mod de
47:46viață și eu cred că este de datoria noastră morală să luăm o atitudine și să avem o voce și
47:50să nu
47:50lăsăm intimidat și nu are nu avem de ce să ne fie rușine cum obișnesc eu să spun în engleză
47:58dacă spun bine
47:59only if you lose your fear you have the power to take their power
48:07i'm still trying to figure out where i sit on the spiritual spectrum
48:11good boy Gail
48:12there is a sense of spirituality there but i don't know what i believe in anymore and i'm
48:18still trying to make sense of that
48:22since then i realized that i have this really deep connection with the spirituality if we want
48:29to call it god or or the universal source that i have such a deep experience that i don't need
48:35a guru i don't i don't need anybody else all of this exists within me
49:07o