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00:04we're not friends
00:08what the fuck is going on
00:11what the fuck you just said that to me
00:13that you don't feel like we're friends
00:14okay then fuck you
00:16holy shit
00:26to be honest I'm not surprised
00:28with the way that Whitney's acting right now
00:31and this is just reconfirmed to me
00:33why I have kept my distance
00:36Kayla will you just talk to me
00:38and just did I do something
00:39like genuinely what happened
00:41if so she was upset because
00:43Jen didn't say congrats on her
00:45getting Chicago
00:46therapy's expensive I'm gonna send Whitney my bill
00:49after this conversation
00:51what did she tell you
00:53Zach told me last week
00:55oh and you just haven't said anything
00:57and I just haven't texted her
00:58I've told her in person
00:59but she's upset that I didn't tell her
01:01when you knew
01:02when I knew
01:03if someone posts
01:04I'm literally terrified
01:05to not comment on somebody's post
01:06because I feel like we have this expectation now
01:08like if I'm not like showing complete
01:10and it's probably that
01:11I mean I don't want to hear it
01:13like it's my fault
01:14this Whitney and Jen drama
01:16definitely makes me feel like
01:17I'm back at the CMA drama
01:18from last year
01:19I posted about my CMAs
01:21not a single one of my friends
01:23from MomTalk
01:23said a single thing about it
01:25or commented
01:26to hear nothing
01:27like what the fuck
01:28I think all the cool opportunities
01:29we're getting are great
01:31but I also think it has potential
01:32to pull us away
01:33from why we're in MomTalk
01:34to begin with
01:35and make us lose sight
01:36of the genuine friendships
01:38it's hard to balance it all
01:40but if we don't have our friendships
01:42what is this all for?
01:44I see where Whitney's upset
01:46but to be honest
01:47I don't feel like our friendship
01:48has been genuine
01:49to be honest
01:49I think it's very much
01:50been transactional and fake
01:53and I feel like
01:54in order to protect my energy
01:56I've been just being cordial
01:59this whole time
01:59because I don't have the time
02:00or none of us do
02:01there's a lot of competition
02:03and jealousy
02:03between Whitney and Jen right now
02:05and that's where this is all stemming from
02:06but MomTalk does not need
02:08to be dealing with this right now
02:09as we kind of grow in popularity
02:11we're getting more and more offers
02:13like Taylor with the Bachelorette coming up
02:14and when we start getting more exposure
02:17and more opportunities
02:18I do worry it may drive us apart
02:20it's all transactional
02:22she's saying like
02:23I don't care about her
02:24I'm like you don't care about any of us either
02:26you only came back for Dancing with the Stars
02:28I am feeling like
02:30so heated right now
02:32I don't even know
02:33if people are backing me up
02:35or people backing Jen up
02:36but if there is one thing
02:38that I have learned
02:38being a part of this group
02:39is that something is bound to happen
02:43but the show must go on
02:44come ye saints and come ye sinners
02:56alleluia
02:57listen up
02:59I'm the one you've been dreaming of
03:02I got everything you could ever want
03:06try me in your sleep
03:08I'll bring you to your knees
03:10baby you're gonna believe
03:12get you done
03:27I love you
03:30Damn, what a child.
03:31Damn, what a child.
03:34Damn, what a child.
03:36Damn, what a child.
03:40Damn, what a child.pak
03:451 Do
03:49you love me when I am broken? And
03:52I am hopeless If
03:55it came without a warning
04:00I know, me too, dude.
04:05After finding out about Dakota and Shania,
04:07I feel completely fucked over.
04:10And not only that, but I am on empty.
04:12This is not the headspace I wanted to be walking into The Bachelorette.
04:15I think it was very deliberate.
04:16I need to start packing, though, so I'm going to grab my suitcases.
04:20I mean, Dakota knew what this would do.
04:21He's not fucking stupid.
04:23It's just, it's, yeah.
04:26It sucks.
04:28Hey.
04:30Oh, yep, get on in.
04:31You're going with me, huh?
04:33What's your expectations?
04:35Are you nervous?
04:36It's okay to be nervous.
04:38I'm nervous for you.
04:39I don't have any.
04:41I don't have any going in that way.
04:43It's like, whatever happens is going to happen.
04:45There's a part of me that even wonders if I'm capable of doing this,
04:48given the recent events.
04:50And then there's another part of me that's like,
04:51well, you already said you're going to do it.
04:53You need to do it.
04:53So pull through.
04:54So kind of very chaotic in the head, for sure.
04:58Which is no secret to anybody, I guess, at this point.
05:00I'm so excited for you.
05:02This is going to be something, like, so fun and challenging and emotional, too.
05:08And I just hope that you can, like, handle all of it.
05:10Yeah, you can be able to handle all of it.
05:12Honestly, like, I can't imagine more chaos than I'm already living.
05:17So I'll never say that.
05:45Good morning.
05:48Good morning.
05:49Good morning.
05:50What's up?
05:51How are you feeling?
05:52I need to stay off my phone.
05:54Yeah, you really need to stay off social media right now.
05:57Yeah.
05:58I know you've cried most of the night.
06:02Last night I got eliminated.
06:05And to be honest, I am devastated and very much surprised.
06:09The couple going home is Jen and Yon.
06:19Just like, it's like a pit in my stomach.
06:21Like, I dreamt of this moment, like, my whole life.
06:26And the fact that it's, like, over just like that, it just, it feels just, like, weird.
06:33Yeah.
06:34Like, the positives even hurt more because it's, like, those memories.
06:36Yeah.
06:38You can be sad, but you also, you have to be proud of yourself because you wanted to inspire
06:43people.
06:44And you accomplished that.
06:46You did this eight weeks postpartum.
06:49And I'll never forget, like, finishing my dance and looking over, looking over at you and
06:57Nora and just seeing how proud you were.
07:02I really gave it my all.
07:04Yeah, you gave your heart to it, and you have to be proud of that.
07:08Oh, man.
07:10I think I'm still trying to process.
07:12You should be really proud of yourself.
07:16Yeah, for sure.
07:20You made it to, what, week seven?
07:22You're right.
07:23I should be proud of myself.
07:25So proud of yourself, Jen.
07:29Whitney has been blowing up my phone.
07:32Apparently, she wants to have conversation, which is...
07:35You think she wants to apologize for how she yelled and screamed at you, or...
07:39No.
07:41You think she wants to apologize for laughing when you got eliminated?
07:44No.
07:44Okay, fam.
07:45It looks like Whitney is laughing when Jen gets kicked off.
07:49Do you think that she's happy she's safe?
07:50Or do we think that she's actually happy to see Jen going home?
07:54Hit me up at the comments.
07:55Let me know what you think.
07:56Like, I think she's worried about...
07:59She's thinking about her and being in the competition, and she didn't like what I had to say on live.
08:05And so, I'm sure she...
08:06Or about you not voting for her?
08:08Yeah.
08:08And I would be rooting for a former mom-talk person, but we won't get into it.
08:14Okay, well, I'm in this line now.
08:17Oh, I'm out of this shit.
08:19Whitney only cares about Whitney and her not getting eliminated, and she knows that I hold power when it comes
08:25to that.
08:25Just because if I say anything more, it could hurt her.
08:30Hello, um, I just want to apologize for overreacting and yelling.
08:35So, I'm going to say hi to you when I see you at the studio and wish you luck.
08:39Um, but yeah, I just wanted to say sorry for treating you that way.
08:43She knows she effed up.
08:45You want to act like everything's okay?
08:47I'm tired of being fake, and I've done that a lot, and I'm tired of doing that, and I'm not
08:50doing that anymore.
08:51And if that means the whole group is against me, because I'm not friends with Whitney, who's currently popular, and
08:57that's a cool thing to do right now, I don't care.
09:00And I think it would be good.
09:01I mean, just to have, like, a cordial conversation and just like, hey, this is my perspective, that's her perspective,
09:08and you guys can just talk it out.
09:09You think I should go talk to her?
09:11Yeah, I think someone needs to hold her accountable.
09:15I know you feel like this is the end of the world, but this is just the beginning.
09:19I know it doesn't feel that way, but you're going to go do way bigger things.
09:23This journey of Dancing with the Stars, Jen was gone all the time, and so, like, our marriage did get
09:28neglected.
09:29At the same time, like, it was one of the coolest, happiest, fun experiences, and I feel, like, pretty sad
09:33for her.
09:34But I also feel really grateful that she got as far as she did.
09:36I've really learned I have to cherish every second I get with her, and it's also helped me realize, like,
09:40I have a lot more respect for stay-at-home parents.
09:43Getting away from Whitney and going back with some of your other friends could be good, too.
09:48If you don't have a lot of friends.
09:49If Whitney's down here, I'm, yeah, I should probably get out of here.
09:53But hey, she's going to be in Chicago.
09:56New York.
09:57It's New York.
09:58Fifth place called Chicago.
10:02I'm dead.
10:03It's where I shine, shine, love it, yes, I love it all the time, time.
10:10Hello.
10:12Hi, Gorge.
10:14You're here.
10:15Wait, this is new.
10:16That's cute.
10:16So much.
10:17Love her.
10:18Did you get that in New York?
10:20Slay.
10:20Love her.
10:21Slayla.
10:22With all of the Shania and Dakota and Taylor drama going on, I haven't really had a chance to check
10:28in with Layla and see how she's doing.
10:30And I'm so excited to see how her meeting went with Ford Models because I know this is a huge
10:34opportunity for her and it's a dream of hers.
10:36Okay, so you haven't told me any update on Ford.
10:39Ugh.
10:40Yeah.
10:40Oh, yeah.
10:41What did, how did that go?
10:43They didn't find me.
10:45Um, so just calling to give you a little bit of an update.
10:48Yeah.
10:48Um, so I've spoken with my team here in New York.
10:51Unfortunately, not everyone is really aligned or on the same page.
10:55So we're going to have to pass at this time.
10:57Okay.
10:58So I'm just, like, embarrassed.
10:59I feel like I'm, like, don't be.
11:00Like, you're going to get yeses and you're going to get no.
11:02And every supermodel literally will tell you.
11:05Has had no.
11:05They have.
11:06Literally.
11:06Plenty of no's.
11:08I don't think you guys, like, getting rejected by a modeling agency, like, that means there's something wrong with me
11:12that they didn't choose me.
11:13So I feel like I've been, like, the last couple days I've been, like, struggling so hard with, like, confidence.
11:18And I'm, like, I weigh too much or my face isn't symmetrical.
11:21And I'm, like, I'm literally the ugliest person ever.
11:23You're not at all.
11:24I don't.
11:25But I think it just, like, stems back to, like, just, like, me never feeling like I'm, like, enough.
11:29If that makes sense.
11:30And just, like, I don't know.
11:31Just, like, having someone, like, look at you and, like, look at your face and be like, yeah, like, we
11:35don't want you.
11:35You know?
11:36Like, it just kind of, like, it sucks.
11:38And I feel like everyone's always told me, like, you should pursue modeling.
11:40Like, you're built for it.
11:41I'm, like, maybe I'm not.
11:43I've struggled with body image issues and an eating disorder since I was in high school.
11:49I used to have anorexia.
11:51And then I got pregnant with my first son when I was 19.
11:55And naturally, I mean, there's a baby inside of me that I have to care for.
11:59So I feel like I kind of healed for a little bit.
12:01And then I got pregnant again.
12:02And I didn't spiral then.
12:05But after me and my ex separated, that's when I feel like I started to go back into those old
12:10ways and those old habits.
12:11And I feel like I've been battling it for the last four years now silently.
12:17You know that that's not true because, first of all, you have a mirror that you can look in and
12:22you have eyes at work.
12:23But also...
12:24I also have a brain that tricks me and says I'm too bad.
12:27But you also have booked so many other modeling deals.
12:30I just feel like every girl is getting such awesome opportunities and I'm so proud of them.
12:34But I definitely, you know, you get a little hard on yourself and you hope that, you know, you can
12:38achieve things outside of mom talk as well.
12:40And rejection hurts.
12:42You wouldn't even have the...
12:43You wouldn't have made it in the door at Ford if you weren't a beautiful, like, accomplished person that had
12:49a lot of potential.
12:51I feel like I'm trying to look at positives in the situation that if I did get it, I would
12:55have to move to New York for three months.
12:57And that would definitely be hard with my babies and with Mason and figuring all of that out.
13:02But it's just a hard toss up because it's something that I want so badly.
13:05Not the only big agency.
13:07No.
13:07Like, there are others.
13:08I don't think I mentally can handle another now.
13:10No.
13:11I think I just wanted it, like, so bad.
13:33I felt really bad the way that I handled Jen and I's argument.
13:36No matter what's happened, no one deserves to be yelled to like that.
13:39So I don't want things to be awkward with us.
13:42I've asked her to meet up with me and hopefully we can move past this.
13:52What the fuck?
13:53Why is Zach here?
13:54And where is Jen?
14:05Hello.
14:06Hi, how are you doing?
14:08Good.
14:09I'm, uh, I'm going to be filling in today.
14:13Filling in for Jen?
14:15I decided to go talk to Whitney because Jen asks me to.
14:18I wanted to go kind of just, uh, defend Jen.
14:22I don't care if Whitney screams or yell at me.
14:24Like, I'm, I'm not scared of Whitney.
14:26She didn't want to come.
14:28Why?
14:29I mean, the truth is she's hurting right now.
14:31She's sad.
14:32She's grieving.
14:32I think just like you would be.
14:34Yeah, of course.
14:35I'm, yeah.
14:35I'm so sorry she got eliminated.
14:37It would suck.
14:37I don't know if you are.
14:39I hope you are.
14:40Um, I think she's just, I think she needs time to process her journey.
14:44And to be honest, I think she's probably scared to come here and get yelled at by you.
14:49You do that a lot.
14:50Yeah.
14:50You know what else I did?
14:52I voice memoed her an apology for yelling at her.
14:55Yeah.
14:55Whitney, it was a bullshit fake apology.
14:58I heard it myself.
15:00You know what?
15:01It wasn't a bullshit apology.
15:02I really did feel bad for yelling.
15:04And I said, I'm so sorry for saying that.
15:05And then you said, let's be friends again because I don't want this exposed to the media
15:07because I'm going to get voted off.
15:09No, I didn't.
15:09I'm a mean girl.
15:11That's the truth.
15:13Whitney.
15:14I'm not even, I'm not even going to defend myself for that.
15:16She said she didn't want to be friends.
15:17And I didn't know that.
15:18That hurt my feelings.
15:19And I overreacted.
15:20I apologized.
15:21I love the transparency, but you don't, I will not stand is for you to go on live after
15:27you get eliminated to then say, I'm not voting for Whitney.
15:31What's the objective there?
15:32I'm in a competition.
15:34I think the objective is she thinks there's people who deserve it more than you.
15:39That's fine.
15:40You could have said who you were voting for, not who you're not voting for.
15:43You know what?
15:44Jen, that to me is cruel and it's mean because what do I have to deal with now?
15:50This hate online, it's overwhelming.
15:52And then on top of it, all of the news media outlets saying, oh my gosh, Jen's not voting
15:56for you.
15:57Whitney's not mom talk because I have that narrative.
15:59That's manipulation.
16:00That's an objective.
16:01That's counterfeit.
16:02And that's strategic.
16:03Why do you think the whole world, all of social media thinks that about you?
16:07Because people can see your true colors.
16:09If you had gotten eliminated, would you be voting for Jen?
16:12Absolutely.
16:13And that is complete bullshit.
16:14I don't even believe that one person.
16:16And you know what, Zach?
16:17You don't have to.
16:18Because even when I had a conversation with Jen, the way that she thinks is she thinks
16:22everybody's calculating.
16:23Everyone's strategic.
16:24And the world's up to get her.
16:25She thinks you and me aren't.
16:27It's weird that you two happen to be best friends.
16:29First of all, I don't appreciate that because I know who I am.
16:33I am a great fucking person.
16:35And I put in so much effort in that relationship.
16:37The difference between me and Jen is I'm going to be straight up and honest.
16:41And Jen isn't.
16:42That actually is probably the biggest lie that's come out of your mouth.
16:45Jen is actually the least calculated person.
16:47Therefore, she gets herself in bad situations.
16:48Yeah, that's not true.
16:49This isn't easy for anyone, Zach.
16:51No.
16:51All of us are mentally unwell.
16:54I can tell.
16:56And I don't think she should have said that on life.
16:57But I think there's a part of Jen that wants the world to see your true colors because
17:01she's sick of it.
17:02She's sick of you being fake to her on camera for the show for your own gain.
17:07And then in real life, she knows you're not a genuine friend.
17:10This is the most delusional woman I've ever met.
17:14Whitney's friendship with Jen has been fake from the beginning.
17:18Anytime Whitney's been frustrated or things haven't gone her way, she screams or she runs
17:21away from mom talk.
17:22She's hurt you.
17:23I've never hurt Whitney.
17:24And then runs away.
17:26I'm going to start my own mom talk.
17:29I'm sorry.
17:30They're like, oh, Whitney's only back filming because she wants Dancing with the Stars.
17:35They're not wrong.
17:36I just think it was a very transactional friendship.
17:38She's not the main star.
17:40Whitney is not interested in it.
17:42When someone goes on a live and decides to create more shit for me to deal with, that's
17:48fucked up.
17:48And I'm sorry for that.
17:50You're not.
17:50I don't want to hear your apology.
17:52I want to hear Jen's.
17:53But guess what?
17:54She doesn't think she did anything wrong.
17:56No, I don't think she cares to give you an apology.
18:00Of course she doesn't care.
18:03Shout it to the rooftops.
18:04Of course she doesn't care.
18:07Okay, do you have anything else you want to say?
18:10I don't want to talk about it anymore.
18:11That's fine.
18:12I'm sorry.
18:13I wish you guys the best.
18:15I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you the perspective that I have.
18:19I'm not going to sit here and try to convince you that what your wife did was unwarranted,
18:24how she's treated me is unwarranted.
18:26You are not my friend.
18:27You are not in my circle.
18:28And I do not trust you.
18:30Okay.
18:31Say, oh no, Whitney.
18:35Zach showed up instead of Jen.
18:37Oh my God.
18:40They're just, every time I talk to them, I just feel, I feel so manipulated.
18:46And then I hate fucking crying because then the world is like, oh, she's being the victim.
18:50I like, I can't ever fucking win.
18:53And then for you to sit there and be like, Jen has done nothing wrong.
18:56It's you that's not a good friend.
18:58I'm like, what the fuck?
18:59And then he's saying like, basically that I deserve all the hate I'm getting.
19:03It's like, go fuck yourself.
19:05I'm going to rip that man's head off.
19:07My biggest fucking pet peeve with me is when men try and make women feel fucking small.
19:13Well, guess what?
19:14I feel that way.
19:15And I hate so fucking much that like, I let it get to me.
19:18I don't know where I'm at after this, but what I can control is not having Jen and Zach a
19:25part of my life, a part of my circle.
19:27And that's what I'm deciding.
19:29She wanted you to feel like shit.
19:30Mission accomplished, Zach.
19:31I hope you feel like a big, strong fucking man right now.
19:34What a fucking loser.
19:37Is it all just smoking here?
19:49Hello.
19:51How are you?
19:51Good.
19:52How are you?
19:52Oh, good to see you.
19:54I know.
19:54You too.
19:55I'm excited for this.
19:56I feel like we all need it.
19:57You guys look so cozy and cute.
19:58I know, I'm so glad we all went, like, lounging.
20:01Because I was like, am I gonna look homeless?
20:03Oh, never.
20:03You're carrying your $6,000 product.
20:05Homeless.
20:07MomTalk has a lot going on right now,
20:09and Taylor's leaving for the bachelorette in a few days,
20:11and then after that, I'm hosting my annual Halloween party.
20:14We should talk about the guest list, though,
20:16because with Taylor gone, I'm like, okay,
20:18who are we inviting?
20:19We can actually have alcohol because Taylor's gone,
20:21which will be fun.
20:22Oh.
20:22Open bar.
20:23Okay, so I have MomTalk on the list, obviously.
20:25Who's left of it?
20:26Dakota, I think Shania's been invited,
20:29because Jordan invited everyone at Red West.
20:31But I don't know if she would actually show up.
20:33We've been so busy lately,
20:34and I'm so excited to just go and have fun and relax today
20:37with Miranda and Layla at the spa.
20:39Okay, we can do anything for 30 seconds.
20:42No, I will be the burpee then.
20:43You were married to Chase, you can do it.
20:44That's my one.
20:45Not a sec.
20:46That's my one.
20:47Okay.
20:48One, two, okay, great.
20:51Oh!
20:52No, no, no.
20:55That was a frozen tundra.
20:57Straight out at, like, ice-capped, frigid temperatures.
21:01Oh, my God, I'm doing it!
21:03The coolest one I've ever experienced.
21:05I thought it was supposed to be relaxing.
21:07No, really.
21:08Not relaxed.
21:09Yeah.
21:10Good.
21:11How are you feeling about all the modeling stuff?
21:13I don't know.
21:14I feel like I'm trying to, like, keep my expectations low.
21:16I feel like I put a lot of my self-worth into my image.
21:20Having someone say that, like, they didn't want to take me on,
21:22even though they didn't say anything physically was wrong with me,
21:25I feel like my brain automatically was like, oh, like,
21:27I'm not small enough or I'm not pretty enough.
21:29But I think more of it was just, like, I feel like I weighed too much.
21:33I'm sure your sample size is not smaller.
21:35I don't look at myself that way, though.
21:38I weighed myself, like, two days ago when I was 99.
21:42What?
21:43And you're, like, 5'10", 5'9".
21:48I mean, do you know that that's not super healthy?
21:51And when I say healthy, like, it doesn't mean big.
21:56You know?
21:56Like, healthy is strong.
21:57Yeah.
21:59Yeah.
22:00No, I'm...
22:02I just feel like I, like, can't...
22:04I don't know.
22:05I just feel like I just don't...
22:06I don't think I'll ever be, like, small enough in my head,
22:08and I know that it's affecting me, and, like, I'm so exhausted all the time
22:12because I don't eat, and my body hurts every night when I go to bed.
22:15What do you mean?
22:17Like, I, like, would literally, like, lay down, like, if my, like, knees are touching each other,
22:21it, like, hurts because I don't have any, like, fat on my body.
22:23Like, cushion it.
22:25Like, I know that it's going too far, and I'm taking it too far, but I, like, can't stop.
22:28Do you think I...
22:30Are you open to stopping trusacetate?
22:33Yep.
22:34I have been using weight loss drugs, GLP-1s, now for about a year, I would say.
22:42I initially got on them because I feel like I just had stubborn weight that I couldn't
22:46get off, but the thing is that people don't talk about how addicting this is,
22:50and how hard it is to get off, and it's just this ever-living thing that's so negative,
22:57and especially negative here in Utah.
22:59People are obsessed with how they look.
23:01It's a very negative part of the Utah culture.
23:04I can't even count on both hands how many people I know abuse GLP-1s, like myself,
23:09and it's a real problem for sure.
23:12When's the last time you did it?
23:14Last week.
23:16That's what scares me, is I don't think you need to be actively losing.
23:19It's hard.
23:19I feel like everyone, like, obviously everyone's starting to notice what it looks like in my
23:23comments.
23:24Like, I can't post a single video right now with, like, every single person saying something
23:28about, like, you need to eat, or you're not going to be able to show up to your kids,
23:31like, you're being a bad mom, blah-blah-blah-blah, like, all these things like a mom trying to,
23:35like, I...
23:35Yeah.
23:36It's not like I...
23:37Well, I've noticed your comments have switched from, like, you're so thin, your arms are so
23:41long, to now, like, are you okay?
23:43And I think that's kind of the sentiment we're all thinking, is that, like, just are you okay?
23:48I feel like for a long time there, people calling me ill or saying that I look sick or too
23:53thin,
23:54it was almost a dopamine rush for me, because I feel like with an eating disorder, okay,
23:58someone's noticing all this work that I'm putting in to look this way, and, like, it's
24:02paying off in a way, but now I can't even post a simple ad to make money to support my
24:07family
24:07without there being a bunch of comments on it, and it's actually starting to get a lot
24:12that I don't even want to post right now, because I can't run away from it.
24:18And I don't know, like, how to stop, but obviously, like, you've always had to have such a strong
24:23feeling from growing up the way that you grew up.
24:25And I think when so much is out of control, it's easy for you to cling on to one thing
24:30you can't control.
24:31Yeah.
24:32And I want you to know that, like, you do love it.
24:34You have a family hand.
24:37And we're here for you.
24:39And we love you.
24:41Okay?
24:42God bless.
24:43Help you.
24:44And you don't, like, we can help you be in control.
24:47Like, you don't have to do it by yourself.
24:48It's big.
24:49Like a threat that starts when I believe.
24:55And all the pieces never seem to fit.
25:01When you feel you can breathe.
25:08When you're lost in the dark, I'll be here in your heart.
25:11Hi, buddy.
25:21This is Taylor's last night before she flies out for The Bachelorette.
25:25And I'm just dropping Ever off.
25:27This is kind of like the last, like, our last time, like, actually kind of seeing each other before she
25:33goes away.
25:34And, yeah, it kind of feels surreal.
25:38There's part of me, obviously, where I want to go over there because, like, I know she's leaving.
25:41Like, and I'm not going to talk to her, I think, for, like, two months.
25:45So, yeah, I'd be lying if I didn't think there was a piece of me that just kind of wanted
25:48to go, I don't know, like, see her, be with her, like, possibly the last time.
25:55Like, I don't know.
26:05I don't know.
26:09I don't know.
26:23Taylor's leaving for The Bachelorette today, Dakota.
26:25What happened last night?
26:32Um...
26:33I want to take my time to make my decision.
26:38She's trying to find for no damn reason.
26:50Espen and I are at Taylor's house, getting ready to leave to California for The Bachelorette.
26:56And we're supposed to leave in two hours.
27:00Taylor.
27:03Well, it's 8.40.
27:07She is not ready.
27:09She is still in bed, and she is not feeling well.
27:14What do you think we should do?
27:16We're supposed to be leaving here, like, any minute.
27:19By 9. She's still sleeping.
27:21You're her mom.
27:22No, you can talk, too, because I'm always the one that's, like, the B.
27:26Did you talk to Taylor?
27:26Yeah.
27:27What'd she say?
27:28She says she just doesn't feel like she's just not feeling well.
27:31She says she can't get on a plane and that you guys can go, and she'll just have to meet
27:36me there.
27:37She's just, she's like, there's just no way I can get up right now and go.
27:43This is ridiculous.
27:45I'm very frustrated right now with Taylor.
27:48She has this huge opportunity, and I feel like a part of me is, like, she's not going to go.
27:53I know that you have anxiety.
27:55I know that there's a lot going on.
27:57That's not why.
27:57I know you're sick.
27:59I know.
27:59You just feel like the same natural.
28:01The same.
28:03This is a commitment that you made.
28:05I'm a liar.
28:05I don't want her to blow this opportunity to possibly find love and also to get on with her life.
28:12Aspen and I are going to get on this plane, and I'm hoping that Taylor will meet us there in
28:17California.
28:18I expect you to be there tonight.
28:20It's just because I don't want to.
28:25Okay, you two are sitting in the very back right here.
28:29Yeah.
28:30Oh, my gosh.
28:31Do we have everything?
28:33We're going to miss our flight.
28:38On our way for the first week of Bachelorette.
28:41Who's not even coming with us?
28:43Who's a no-show?
28:44Mom.
28:45You're crazy, huh?
28:52On our hands, driving on the front stays.
28:56I always want my space.
29:05Me and the girls are at the airport ready to surprise Taylor.
29:08We decided to make signs for her new adventure.
29:10She's been through so much.
29:11Kind of send her off on her little mission to the Bachelorette.
29:14Because in our church, when someone goes on a mission, usually when they come home, people have signs welcoming them
29:19back.
29:19You'll see that a lot at Salt Lake Airport.
29:21So we're sending her off to her mission to the Bachelorette.
29:24And we're ready for her to be away from Dakota and find her real man.
29:27We're already getting close.
29:28It's great.
29:28Guys, it's 9.45.
29:31It leaves at 11.
29:33Where is she?
29:34Was she with Dakota last night again?
29:35Yes, 100%.
29:36She was with Dakota last night, so I am genuinely stressed that she told him, like, I'll stay for you.
29:42This morning, Jordan heard from Dakota.
29:44Taylor slept with Dakota again last night.
29:46Go self-sabotage!
29:48Jessie tells us that Jordan told her that Dakota slept with Taylor last night.
29:53Oh, my God.
29:54I thought I couldn't get more disappointed.
29:56Right when we're like, yes, she sees it, she sees her worth, it's like she's going to the Bachelorette, she's
30:02ready to start this new journey, we're so excited for her.
30:05She's back sleeping with Dakota again, and I'm so disappointed.
30:07I'm so disappointed.
30:09I'm definitely disappointed in Taylor.
30:10I don't think that this was a smart move to do right before the Bachelorette.
30:13To be frank, if I was one of these guys and I found out that she, after Baby Daddy, the
30:17day before meeting me, I would be extremely upset and pissed.
30:21Dakota's trying to pull out all of his cards because he's desperate.
30:24Like, he's doing anything he can to get her to not go.
30:27Like, I'm shocked, but I'm not shocked at the same time.
30:29I'm just tired.
30:30I'm so over this.
30:31I'm just hoping Dakota doesn't sneak there at some point.
30:34Dakota's in the checked luggage, let's be honest.
30:37Is that Ben?
30:37Weird.
30:38That's not Ben.
30:39Weird.
30:39No, that's Ben.
30:40Shut the fuck up.
30:41Do you like my sexy socks?
30:43I was just going to comment on your sexy socks.
30:47Wait.
30:48That's not them.
30:49That's not them.
30:50Oh.
30:51It looks exactly like her.
30:52I about died, you guys.
30:55She only has 40 minutes.
30:5640 minutes until boarding ends.
30:58Wait.
30:58She's right there.
30:59Coming down.
31:00She's right there.
31:00She's right there.
31:01She's right there.
31:01I can see that rat's neck for a mile away.
31:03You guys, wait.
31:03Oh, that's Aspen.
31:04Okay.
31:05I'm going to yell.
31:06Okay, that's her mom.
31:08That's her mom.
31:08There's Aspen.
31:09Wait, where's Taylor?
31:09She's right there.
31:10Wait, where is she?
31:13But that's Aspen and her mom.
31:15Where's Taylor?
31:16Taylor's not even there.
31:17What the hell?
31:18Where's Taylor?
31:19Aspen's going to be the Bachelorette.
31:21Oh, my gosh.
31:23Look at that.
31:24Wait, where's Taylor?
31:26Oh, yeah.
31:27Where's Taylor?
31:28She's not coming.
31:29She's not, for real?
31:32She's not coming.
31:33You're joking.
31:34No, I'm being dead serious.
31:36I heard about this.
31:37Is it because of Dakota?
31:39Oh, no.
31:40We don't know why.
31:40What's going on?
31:41She slept with him last night.
31:42No, sir.
31:43For real.
31:45No, sir.
31:46You guys are freaking kidding me.
31:47You're joking, right?
31:49No.
31:49No, I mean, that's not why we're...
31:50For real.
31:52Now, why the hell are we going and doing all of this?
31:54Oh, my gosh.
31:55It makes me actually very sick that she would put this whole deal in jeopardy.
32:01Why isn't she here?
32:02She wouldn't get up.
32:03We could not get her up.
32:05And she's like, I'm not going right now.
32:06I can't do it.
32:07You guys.
32:08And then she's like, you guys get on the flight and go.
32:11Okay, no.
32:11She's going to send you without going.
32:13Like, what's the point of that?
32:14Hey, I need you to call me, like, ASAP.
32:17I fucking hate Dakota.
32:19And Taylor, I'm like, I love my sister, but I'm like, pull it out of your ass.
32:23And you can't be this mad at Shania and then give him a pass.
32:25I'm like, I'm so...
32:26I cannot.
32:27Ew, ew, ew.
32:28Does ABC have a backup plan?
32:30Oh, I freaking hate him.
32:31That's why we hate him.
32:33Don't forget to drop your baggage.
32:35Yeah.
32:35She's allowing it.
32:36I know.
32:36I'm sorry.
32:37Ew.
32:38I'm sorry, Leigh-Anne.
32:39Come here.
32:39Give me a hug.
32:39I'm sorry.
32:40I know.
32:41This is so bad, you guys.
32:44Taylor not showing up at the airport is not only a bad sign for her and her journey in
32:48the Bachelorette, but also for MomTalk.
32:50Like, she's going to choose Dakota, who's been kind of ruining her life for the last three
32:53years over something that is a fresh start.
32:56Like, all of us in MomTalk, we've all tried so hard to help her, and we've all been there
33:00for her, but I think it backfired on us.
33:03I'm, like, so frustrated.
33:04I'm so pissed.
33:05I don't even want to get on a plane.
33:06No, this is true.
33:07Well, you guys shouldn't.
33:07You can tell me if she's not coming.
33:09She has to go.
33:10She has to.
33:10She's already announced it.
33:11I'm going to go on this flight, and she better be there today.
33:14Or I'm cutting her freaking off.
33:17Do you want us to go to her house and drag her out of bed?
33:19Tell her she better get there.
33:20We've got to rebook a flight.
33:20Well, you could go ahead and tell her if she doesn't get up and go.
33:23I know that she's losing everybody her help.
33:25I'm done.
33:26She'll be done.
33:27And I'll be done, too.
33:29I'll be done.
33:30This is so bad.
33:31Taylor is like an addict when it comes to Dakota.
33:34We're just trying to help her.
33:35We spent hours making these signs.
33:37We showed up early at the airport to be there and send her off.
33:39But seeing her mom and kids come to the airport without her and saying she's not coming, I'm,
33:44like, great.
33:44My worst fears have come true.
33:46She's going to sabotage this entire experience for Dakota, and she's never going to get better.
33:50I love you.
33:51I'm sorry.
33:52I'm so cute.
33:52We all are, too, so don't worry.
33:54Yeah, go to her house.
33:55We need to go to her house.
33:56We need to go take these to her door and be like, look, we were here to support you.
34:00We stomp him.
34:10She's not going to let us in, you guys.
34:12I don't give a shit.
34:12I'm going to break her damn window by her bed and jump in.
34:15It's a Sunday.
34:16I should be in church, praising the Lord.
34:18And here I am.
34:20Does anyone know her doorstep?
34:22I don't care, but I know there's a big rock by her window.
34:24We can slap this.
34:25I'm just not sure how to approach this yet.
34:27Let's approach it in a nice situation.
34:28I don't know if we approach it angry or, like, I just don't know.
34:31She's not going to answer you guys.
34:38You guys, should we go around back?
34:40Yeah, let's go.
34:42Tap on the window.
34:45Oh, what about this one?
34:46No, it's locked.
34:47I thought it wasn't.
34:48Oh, wait, it got in, but there's something there.
34:50Is it Dakota?
34:51Oh, my gosh.
34:52What is all of this?
34:53Now that we've successfully broken into Taylor's house, I think we can officially add breaking
34:57and entering to our resumes.
34:59Should I wink?
35:01I can't wink.
35:03I've been working on it.
35:05Is she going to be so mad at us?
35:07Well, Leanne told us to do this.
35:09There's her bag, like, half-packed.
35:11It's half-packed?
35:12Yeah.
35:13Oh, my hell, Taylor.
35:15I think it looks like she didn't fully go.
35:17You guys, what do I do?
35:18We're already in here, guys.
35:19Now we can't leave, so we have to lose it.
35:21We're already in here.
35:22Just, like, pop your head in.
35:23Just don't, like, don't say anything unless she's awake, because I don't want to wake her up.
35:29Taylor?
35:31Yeah, who?
35:33Hi, who's here?
35:35Mom talk?
35:36Your mom sent us.
35:39I mean, why are you here?
35:41Taylor, I'm so sick, and no one will leave me alone.
35:44Taylor, you have a responsibility.
35:46Why aren't you on the plane?
35:47Because I'm so fucking sick.
35:49What the fuck do I want me to do?
35:50I'm so sick.
35:51Why won't anyone be alone?
35:53I mean, you were with Dakota last night.
35:54You weren't that sick.
35:55What the fuck do I was with?
35:56I was with my babies all night.
35:57I'm so fucking sick.
36:00I mean, if you don't want help, we'll leave, but we're just trying to get you on the plane.
36:04I don't know why no one will give me...
36:05Because you said yes to Bachelorette.
36:07You should have said no.
36:08You're not well.
36:10I'm feeling definitely sick, exhausted, drained.
36:14My friends want the best for me, and they're, you know, in my house trying to get me to go,
36:17and I really appreciate it.
36:18I'm just to a point where it's, like, so low that I don't even want them to help me.
36:22Like, I'm sorry, but I'm just sick of supporting you when you keep doing this.
36:25Your mom's pissed.
36:26Your sister's pissed.
36:27Like, you're sending them to L.A. with your kids, and you can't show up?
36:30Like, just say no to the Bachelorette.
36:33Sucks that we woke up at 6 a.m. to be there for you.
36:35So over it.
36:37All of us girls are honestly going through a lot right now.
36:40Mikayla and Jace's marriage is going through a really hard time.
36:44Jessie's contemplating divorce every day.
36:45I'm dealing with my eating disorder.
36:47And the last thing that we need is our leader, Taylor, to be falling apart as well.
36:52I just feel like she's kind of the glue to this group, and if she's not doing well,
36:56then MomTalk is not doing well either.
36:58Let's just go and let her deconstruct on her own.
37:01Okay, we'll leave, Taylor, but we hope that you make one of the later flights today.
37:06Go talk to Dakota, because you can talk to him and not us.
37:25Thank you for talking to Whitney for me yesterday.
37:27Are you eventually interested in talking to her?
37:29Are you just done with this friendship?
37:32I don't owe her anything.
37:34I literally told her.
37:35I said, Whitney, if anything, Jen's the least manipulative, calculated person I know.
37:39In fact, she's so not calculated that she gets herself in trouble.
37:43Jen wasn't planning on doing a live.
37:44If she wanted to expose you for the way you've treated her, she would have already done it.
37:47When I watched the live, it was very much, should I have said that?
37:51No.
37:51Someone asked me if I'm rooting for her, and I say no, and now I owe her an apology.
37:56That's what I told her.
37:57I said, wait, Whitney.
37:57I'm sorry, I'm not rooting for you.
37:59Were you not just saying F you to me last week?
38:04Do you see yourself ever being friends with Whitney again?
38:10Holy shit.
38:11Fuck you.
38:13Well, I mean, Whitney's, to me, 2.0.
38:18Like, I have no interest in being friends, interacting.
38:23I'll always be cordial, but, like...
38:26It feels like Whitney ruined enough of the experience, and it's sad to me that now that
38:30it's over, we're still talking about it.
38:32And it feels like she's like a parasite, and no matter what thing we do, it always...
38:37Like, we can never just enjoy the experience for what it is and take the positives.
38:41Like, and I just want to, like, focus on what you accomplished and the positives you took
38:45away.
38:45You becoming a better dancer, you growing as a person.
38:47Like, that's what I wish we were talking about, not Whitney and her drama.
38:50Yeah.
38:52When I got eliminated, honestly, I was so sad.
38:59Gosh.
39:00I think the hardest part about leaving Dancing with the Stars was how much it brought back
39:07my authentic self.
39:10And so, when that journey was over, I felt like it was almost stripped from me.
39:15And so, I just remember praying to God, just being like, oh, please don't let that version
39:21of myself go away.
39:23Things are ever going to go wrong whenever talking to Whitney.
39:27To be honest, I think that's why I want to go back to Utah, is I want to regroup, go
39:32back
39:32to my family and friends, and just really figure out what it is that I want.
39:37I think we need to go do something fun.
39:38We need to get out of the house and just go.
39:40I want to go to the beach.
39:41Yeah, we need to go to the beach.
39:58This is the thing with being a part of MomTalk, is there are going to be relationships that
40:03ebb and flow, but with Jen not even bothering to show up.
40:06It seems that my friendship with her is officially coming to an end.
40:10Can I still be in this group and have Jen in the group?
40:12Absolutely.
40:13Because I'm actually a mature adult.
40:15Right now, my focus is on bringing home that mirror ball.
40:18And then, I need to pack for New York City.
40:23And what's in New York City?
40:25Roxy Hart.
40:42I am scared to find a guy that will love me back.
40:55And also, be willing to deal with a couple baby daddies and kids.
41:01But I think if I don't take this step, I do stay stagnant in where I'm at.
41:04This is not only like an opportunity, I think, for just finding someone.
41:08This is an opportunity to get away from the toxicity I'm in here.
41:12And I want out of it.
41:30I got a later flight.
41:32I am in L.A.
41:33I am exhausted.
41:34But I'm here.
41:35And I'm happy that I made it.
41:37I'm happy that I am.
41:39I'm happy that I am.
41:44I'm happy that I am.
41:46Hello.
41:47Hello.
41:48Hi.
41:49Hi.
41:50Did you make it?
41:52I did.
41:53How was it?
41:55Good.
41:56Just really tired.
41:58yeah i bet so taylor just landed and i feel like this is the last chance i'll be able to
42:03kind of
42:05i don't know even like express to her how i feel essentially just the fact of i've always wanted
42:11you i um i do just want to say sorry for everything that i did i know that that caused
42:20a lot of
42:20problems um not any more specific what you're talking about with shania um even what what did
42:26you do even with you for you know what i did for hooking up with her okay be specific if
42:31you're
42:31gonna apologize well i think i think everybody knows that i want to hear it yes i want to hear
42:37how sorry you are for what you did i know i am taylor i'm sorry for what i did i'm
42:42sorry for
42:42hooking up with shania i think was it dumb of me yes well could i pick someone else yes like
42:48who it was matters and that's where i think i went wrong and i picked somebody that
42:55i mean obviously yeah it was going to come with problems and um i think that was like very shitty
43:01of me to do thank you and it put you in a shitty spot and i know that hurt you
43:06really bad the apology
43:08is just words like it always is how many times can he do this where you believe it and you
43:13suck back
43:13into it and it's not true wake up i think there's a lot of pain i think there's a lot
43:18of
43:18things we've done to hurt each other but overall i still think we love each other it's toxic that's
43:24the issue i know it is toxic i agree but that's the thing is i also it doesn't have to
43:29be this way
43:30we make it toxic it doesn't have to be that way this would be the best thing for us regardless
43:35of
43:35like what happens yeah like this would be the best like break and break off of like our cycles and
43:41i
43:41think you could do a lot of healing it's up to you really what you do i just feel like
43:47i don't
43:48know like i am i'm happy for you like i want you to be happy and if you and that's
43:51what i'm saying
43:51if you do find someone like great but all i'm gonna say
43:57save a rose for me okay like if you don't find someone like i know i've been acting like such
44:04a
44:04dumbass and i've kind of just like fell completely away from who i am and like that's that's why i
44:12love
44:12you it's like like you're the only person that could help me see that sometimes i'm just like
44:20hey like this isn't who you are it's not i think that's not secret to anybody dakota what
44:29say it that there's feelings there obviously can you just admit that you still love me
44:37i love you i think talking to dakota is not a good idea but it's a hard pill to swallow
44:44that
44:45it's done and i need to move on it hurts just say it like oh at the end of the
44:51day i do think it's
44:52an opportunity to get away from him absolutely it's like a dream come true okay they're about to
44:56film me okay save me a rose say it save me a rose
45:03so just let me know
45:07okay bye
45:23the night is finally here it's my annual
45:25halloween party last year at the halloween party there was a lot of rowdiness i have
45:29no idea how this is going to go down but this year i'm hoping that tonight we can just have
45:33a
45:33chance to relax and maybe have one night of fun
45:38i am so happy to hear that taylor finally caught a flight to la for the bachelorette things with taylor
45:43and mom talk feel a little unresolved right now but i feel like the bachelorette is going to be like
45:48an eight-week detox where she can't talk to dakota and it couldn't be coming at a better time
46:15it's still kind of awkward because i still haven't told the other girls kind of the state of where jace
46:19and
46:19i are at and they don't know that the two of us are living separately currently and macy's the only
46:25one that knows i like my alone time for sure but also i'm like i don't like being alone at
46:31the same
46:31time i'm just hoping it gets better and i just don't want this information in someone's hand
46:37like jordan who has a big mouth i think it's definitely hitting me the gravity of being
46:47separated and what that looks like i think there's part of me that is definitely scared to lose him
46:53because i don't know how long it's going to take and i don't know how long he can be patient
46:58for
47:00yeah i don't know i don't know how to feel about it
47:35i'm very grateful for jesse and miranda
47:37how supportive they've been for me throughout this hard time sometimes when you're in the midst
47:43of an eating disorder it feels like you're never gonna be better and you're never gonna
47:49like overcome it however jesse found one of the number one eating disorder facilities here
47:54in the u.s which is amazing hey guys hello hi layla thank you so much for coming thank you
48:01i'm a little nervous definitely i feel like i don't know what to expect okay we have all options
48:06we have 24-hour care we have outpatient so we'll just kind of see what kind of fits your needs
48:11what
48:11you're looking for i was definitely anxious going into the center they kept telling me that they
48:16weren't gonna check me in and have me be impatient but that didn't happen so that's good are you guys
48:32how much he loved it which i was like wait what i like sorry i didn't know guys like read
48:36books maybe
48:37that's so horrible of me to say but like despite everything going on in mom talk right now the
48:42reason why i wrote this book was to inspire i think that's what keeps me fighting to save my friend
48:47group
48:47to save mom talk and keep them away from all these toxic men because i've been through a lot of
48:51challenges heartbreaks hardships and i just want my friends to be happy i just want us to thrive
48:55and that's a big purpose behind what i do
49:05it looks like his type so we're like we're like we're trying to figure it out
49:24so shania shows up and uh damn this is a tough spot so it feels a little awkward obviously like
49:33seeing her the last thing i want is for us to have some show happen like the last halloween
49:38why is he talking to shania they're back together he's so dumb for doing this right now i'm glad we
49:45made a sex pack for sure that was cool yeah that was badass huh i want to be fair i
49:50also thought it
49:51was gonna last a lot longer than what it did you broke it not me i know but hang on
49:56no no no no oh my
49:59gosh okay technically okay oh i didn't even well i never got the chance to even tell you this so
50:10uh yeah you're gonna hate it but you already know probably it was freaking taylor
50:19the truth is this right now okay this is what i am right now i'm like i'm just emotionally like
50:27i think a little bit more messed up than i thought i thought i could maybe do it i would
50:31love to be with
50:32taylor i would love that opportunity and maybe there's a chance that this could be something that
50:36she needs if she goes out and dates like 30 hand-picked men for her and ends up choosing me
50:42at the end i feel like that's also maybe like a good sign for her like maybe that would help
50:47her
50:47yeah but i'm also again i'm in a position to where i don't think i can sit and rely on
50:53that either
50:54of having that hope i do what did you know i i really did care a lot about like how
51:00everything
51:00went down and that was really hard to watch and i'm like sorry you had to go through that
51:05i just don't ever wanted to come back on brand that's my only thing that i care about being back
51:10in mom talk it's no secret that taylor and i have kind of been through hell i mean it's been
51:17one thing after the next it seems you think taylor should still be leading mom talk
51:23personally you know maybe we just raw dog mom talk no leader
51:30we have come so far in just the last few years especially here in the utah mormon culture because
51:39mom talk has flipped typical gender roles we're breadwinners not trad wives with taylor being
51:44bachelorette whitney and jen doing dancing with the stars macy and her book event layla and
51:49modeling we all have so many cool things happening for us oh i love it it really is true that
51:54in life
51:54what you do doesn't matter it's who you spend your time with so having a good supportive group of
51:59friends makes your accomplishments even better i'm not here because i need to pray okay i needed to
52:07talk to somebody about this because like it's kind of been freaking me out a little bit but like taylor
52:11told me like the last time that we did it that she was like ovulating
52:21so she could be pregnant like taylor randomly in bed she goes she's like i haven't had my period yet
52:26okay and i was like i was like from like when like and then she told me i was like
52:31whoa hang on okay
52:32or i could is she gonna be a pregnant bachelorette that's what i'm freaking but because they took her
52:37damn phone before i could ask her and say hey have you did you start your period or what's going
52:42on
52:42this is a movie like deep down like you have symptoms you know if you're pregnant like especially
52:47weird too is like then i was starting to think about like how emotional kind of she's been lately
52:50she's been a little erratic yeah like a little bit more it's where i was like dakota this is so
52:55and then she's like sick a few times like i remember telling me she felt sick a little bit
52:58but i just don't i don't know anything can you imagine you guys like she's the bachelorette and
53:05she's pregnant like that's never happened i don't feel like they could keep her on for that i'm scared
53:09to death i don't know if she's pregnant what are you feeling is there a possibility that you know you
53:22could be pregnant
53:44feel the beat of my heart only you can make it stop
53:53at the final part can you feel the beat of my heart
54:00can you feel the beat of my heart beat of my heart beat of my
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