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00:05Previously on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
00:08Dad and I are both walking in with you.
00:10Yeah, you're going to walk me down.
00:11That's so crazy.
00:12My daughter, our daughter, is getting married,
00:15and we're not together.
00:18Okay.
00:19We're taking out eggs, and the plan is to fertilize them.
00:23If he doesn't have a child, which I know he really wants,
00:27then what does that mean?
00:29This has to work.
00:30What the actual?
00:32It's everywhere.
00:34I actually thought the whole mediation
00:36is so that this is not, like, a huge, loud public thing.
00:39Like, it's everywhere.
00:41Okay, so I filed for divorce this morning.
00:44This is just, to me, a detail in the process of moving forward.
00:48So you're okay?
00:49I'm great.
00:50I'm great.
00:52I know Rachel's saying that she's okay, and she's fine,
00:55but a part of it, I think, is just putting on a brave face.
00:58What did you think about Dorit?
01:00I started wondering, like, is her talking to everyone
01:03going to end up affecting the divorce in some kind of negative way?
01:06Having an opinion from someone who doesn't know me.
01:08Can I be really, really honest?
01:10Zion died three years ago today, and I'm holding on by a thread.
01:15What?
01:16Randi, I'm so sorry you're going through this.
01:18Just know.
01:19Touch me right now, please.
01:20Okay.
01:21I'd like to be able to have a conversation with you.
01:23I need to be able to go to a dinner party
01:25without being verbally accosted.
01:33Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:35Well, you've got what I'm learning.
01:37Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
01:38No, let me look at it.
01:39Accosted, I'm pretty sure I use the right word.
01:41Were you verbally accosted by me?
01:43That is how I experienced it.
01:48Approached and addressed boldly and aggressively.
01:50Oh, my God.
01:52I can't even.
01:53Like, I know what accosted means, and this ain't it.
01:55I heard that you had some concerns
01:58about the way I was speaking about the father of my children.
02:02We can look up the chat GPT assistant, too.
02:06Who does Amanda think she's schooling?
02:08I don't see a single person here
02:10who has a notepad out getting ready to write down what she's saying.
02:13Can you guys talk a little louder?
02:15Do you think I approached you aggressively?
02:18I do.
02:20We're in, like, another zip code.
02:22You guys are verbally used.
02:24We're in Calabasas.
02:25I want to know what's going on.
02:29Welcome.
02:30Hi.
02:30Hello.
02:31I felt hurt and disappointed.
02:33That's all.
02:34I thought you were super, super sweet.
02:37It took me by surprise when I had heard
02:40that you were saying that behind my back.
02:42I didn't say anything behind your back.
02:44That was all.
02:44You could have just asked me,
02:46but you didn't just ask me.
02:47You came at me with some pretty strong accusation and aggression,
02:51and then when I told you it was the anniversary of the death of my son,
02:54you didn't stop.
02:55You kept going.
02:57You kept going.
02:58You kept going.
02:59Amanda, I'm very sorry.
03:01I had no idea.
03:02I told you.
03:03But I said, listen, I'm very sorry.
03:05I just wanted to have this discussion because I had heard it.
03:08I just agreed with Kyle.
03:11We're talking about how he's parenting and things like that.
03:14That worries me because there's no way he's not going to hear about this down the road.
03:19No.
03:19It's going to spark a bigger fight, and he may retaliate.
03:22Adding fuel to the fire.
03:23Fuel to the fire.
03:24Mm-hmm.
03:25Kyle and I have known you there almost a decade.
03:28Her having an opinion is one thing, but you having the same opinion.
03:32I just agreed with her.
03:34What did you agree with?
03:35If last year speaking about your ex's relationship with alcohol was hard for you guys,
03:41then this year speaking about his parenting style could also be hard.
03:44Kyle leading with, I don't think she should be doing this, is a little peculiar.
03:48But that's something with Kyle, and I'll deal with that separately.
03:52What exactly is Kyle's point of trying to color Amanda's image of me?
03:58She's not exactly talking to somebody that has any idea who I am, no idea of the situation,
04:03yet she's talking to Amanda about her opinion about what I'm doing.
04:08The fact that you brought up how you feel I'm behaving with regards to my divorce and speaking to my
04:16friends
04:16made me want to question you.
04:18Why have a judgment about someone you don't know?
04:21Well, you didn't question me.
04:21That's not typically how you get down to people's true thoughts is by getting really aggressive with them.
04:27I wasn't trying to inquire about your thoughts.
04:29I was trying to inquire about why you were talking behind my back and judging me,
04:34especially about something as sensitive as my divorce.
04:36I have never in my entire life gone to a dinner party and accused people of things and got aggressive
04:43with them.
04:43To me, that was very strong.
04:46Well, I'm sorry you thought it was strong, but I'm in a place of openness, a place of transparency.
04:53So when I feel a certain way, I'm going to be open and honest.
04:56You could have just said, Amanda, I hear you have thoughts.
04:59Can you tell me more?
05:00You could have had curiosity.
05:01No, Amanda.
05:02I'm not going to say, I hear you have thoughts.
05:03Can you tell me more?
05:04I've just heard that you said it behind my back and you're judging.
05:07Can I just say something really quickly?
05:08Going back to Tilly's house, you were really upset.
05:11Like, I've never seen you cry.
05:12Yes, exactly.
05:13Do you know what it's like to see my son?
05:14Asking for my dad.
05:16He's asking for my dad, not his own father, for my father.
05:20Do you know what it's like for me?
05:23You had very strong words, you know, that night about P.K., which is understandable.
05:28What strong words did I have?
05:29You know, when you ask, I don't remember all the things.
05:31Well, then don't say things like that.
05:32Don't say, because I didn't have strong words about him.
05:34I had strong words about what I was going through.
05:37The things that Dorit is saying about P.K. now is going to come back to him.
05:42P.K. had sent a statement.
05:43Did he?
05:43He did.
05:44Dorit has made several mischaracterizations about me,
05:47but the one I must address is the claim that I am a bad father.
05:51That is deeply hurtful to me and, more importantly, to our children.
05:54It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that he may not like what you're saying.
05:59Why poke the bear?
06:02Right.
06:02So don't twist things.
06:04I'm not twisting.
06:04I'm saying I don't recall exactly.
06:06But then if you don't recall, then you really shouldn't be positioning it that way.
06:09Okay.
06:10Dorit.
06:10Because the way you positioned it is not a nice way to position it.
06:13The reason I'm saying that.
06:14And it's not actually true.
06:15Well, now you're splitting hairs just because you don't want to get into it.
06:17No, for you, I'm splitting hairs.
06:18For me, it's the difference between really big deal and nothing at all.
06:22Well, do you remember I said you?
06:23I was talking about.
06:24Do you remember?
06:28When you and I had dinner and I said to you,
06:31I don't think it's a good idea to bash the father of your children.
06:34Why do you think I said that?
06:35Do I remember that?
06:36Yes.
06:36Look, you've not only made it a point to say that to me at least a dozen times,
06:41but you're clearly actually sharing it with a lot of other people so I can remember.
06:48And you let somebody else talk.
06:51Okay, calm down.
06:52That's so old.
06:53It's boring.
06:54I only have concerns because I don't want it to be more complicated for you later
06:58because I care about you.
07:00If she really had concern, she would have told me in private once.
07:04Not gone behind my back and talked about it over and over and over.
07:09This is not bashing you or talking bad about you behind your back.
07:13It's literally because you don't want to create more problems for yourself.
07:16Can I say something?
07:18It's really hard in these moments to not speak how you feel.
07:23Thank you, Rachel.
07:23I'm just being really honest.
07:25I understand that in a perfect world,
07:28we take the high road every minute of our lives and smile.
07:33I've done that for a really long time.
07:36And here's the thing.
07:37Saying, by the way.
07:38I don't think that anyone has any place to judge.
07:46There are days where we're strong as f***.
07:49There are days where we want to f***ing scream at the top of our lungs.
07:53And at the end of the day, because of our children,
07:56because of our businesses,
07:57you have to always do the right thing.
07:59You have to smile if you're f***ing everything
08:00and be as strong as hell every minute of the day.
08:03And there are these f***ing moments where you need to just vent.
08:06I think to then be sort of here through other people
08:10that it's like this may not be the right thing
08:13or like I don't think you should do that or whatever.
08:15It's like our friends, even if they feel that way,
08:18sometimes it's like don't tell us that right now
08:20because we feel so f***ing sh**ty right now anyway.
08:24F***ing hell!
08:25That's all I'm saying.
08:26Oh my God!
08:27If you can't vent and be fully open, honest and vulnerable and truthful,
08:33authentically real,
08:34with your friends, with your people,
08:37then I don't know what a friendship is.
08:40By the way, honey, let me tell you something.
08:42What you have kicked off and started
08:45is what's really going to come back and kick me in the ass.
08:49You don't need to calm down.
08:50Who are you mad at?
08:51You're mad at her, you're mad at me,
08:53you're mad at your situation.
08:54What have I done?
08:55I wanted to be your friend.
08:56Really?
08:56Oh, so now you're going to do the same thing Sutton did
09:00last year at your house.
09:02You're not angry at me.
09:04You're angry at your life.
09:05My life sucks right now
09:07and I have zero tolerance for more bulls***t.
09:12I'm allowed to have emotions especially.
09:15Yeah, I'm allowed to have emotions too
09:17and we're also allowed to have opinions about something.
09:18So should I be saying do you calm down when you have emotions?
09:22You can if you feel that.
09:23Okay, but I won't.
09:24That doesn't mean I will.
09:25Because you know what?
09:26It minimizes your feelings in those moments.
09:28I think you seem so angry and aggressive and I think it's not.
09:31I think thank God when Rachel actually stepped in and spoke, which I'm shocked that that didn't land for you
09:38and go, oh s***t, you know what?
09:40No, it doesn't.
09:40It doesn't.
09:42Not at all.
09:43No, but I don't feel that.
09:45That's my point.
09:47Kyle loves to talk about how she has no issues with Mo, not with finances or communication.
09:52So maybe that's why she's having such a difficult time understanding why I'm sharing what I'm going through.
09:59P.K. is venting to his friends, Mo and all of his friends and family.
10:03Is he protecting me?
10:05Is he protecting me?
10:06I don't know what P.K.'s doing.
10:06I don't care about you.
10:07You know exactly what P.K. is doing, Kyle, because you speak to Mo and Mo speaks to P.K.
10:11You know exactly what P.K. is saying.
10:13So don't pretend that you don't.
10:14No, no, no, no.
10:15Is he protecting me?
10:16Don't put words in my mouth.
10:17What did I put in my mouth?
10:19If you let people, if you pretend it's old to keep saying let people talk, but then let people f***ing
10:22talk.
10:36You know exactly what P.K. is saying.
10:38So don't pretend that you don't.
10:39If you pretend it's old to keep saying let people talk, but then let people f***ing talk.
10:46I only know Mo is saying that P.K. is saying completely opposite things from what you're saying, okay?
10:50I didn't speak up in that night at Tilly's purposely because I didn't want to be like, well, that's not
10:55what P.K. is saying.
10:56I kept my mouth shut and what?
10:59I didn't say anything.
11:00I didn't say anything.
11:01I came to you later privately and I said, listen, I just don't want you to create more problems for
11:06yourself.
11:12Grow up, Dorit.
11:14Is it okay?
11:14Grow up.
11:15No, because I just want to make sure I'm giving you a chance to speak, but is it okay?
11:19Kyle talking to Mauricio about Dorit and P.K. is 100% keeping Kyle in the middle.
11:27If I didn't care about you, I didn't like you, I'd let you f***ing bury yourself.
11:30I don't care.
11:31The best thing Kyle could do for she and Dorit's friendship is stay out of their divorce.
11:36I promise you, Kyle, the more you talk to Mauricio about Dorit and P.K., the worse it's going to
11:41be for you and Dorit.
11:42I believe that Kyle, it has your best interests at heart.
11:47What you are saying is you are willing to assume the risk of speaking publicly about what is happening.
11:53And everybody has to accept that.
11:55This is a good birthday party.
11:57This is a very good birthday party.
11:59But Dorit, no one here at this table wants anything bad to happen to you.
12:04I don't believe, listen, you don't think that my saying that is because I cared about you?
12:08Listen to me.
12:09Do you remember your house that day when I said to you, Dorit?
12:10Kyle, listen to me.
12:11Now you shut up.
12:11I understand that you're angry.
12:13You shut up for two seconds.
12:17Dorit, okay?
12:18Come on.
12:19Erica, stop it.
12:20I mean it.
12:21I'm not going to stop it.
12:21No, I mean it.
12:22You guys are friends and you need to, you guys are on a way to repair.
12:25I know you're upset.
12:26No.
12:27Listen, got it.
12:27I'm just going to be either one of you telling me what I should or shouldn't do.
12:31I'd love for Erica to chime in and say, Kyle, that's not cool.
12:36Kyle, that's not cool.
12:37That's not cool.
12:39When things are happening in my life and I'm with my friends, just like I showed up to Tilly's, very
12:45broken.
12:46You want me to show up and pretend like everything is fine?
12:49No.
12:49I can't do that.
12:50It is clear to me based on some of the dynamics tonight that this is a communication style I am
12:56very not used to.
12:58I mean, even had it not been the anniversary of Zion's death, I still would have not liked being approached
13:04that way.
13:05But here's the thing, Amanda.
13:06You can't be in charge of how people want to respond.
13:09So that's an adult thing to understand.
13:12You don't ever set boundaries with people around how they can and can't speak to you.
13:15Well, how am I going to enforce that?
13:17That sounds crazy.
13:19You can't walk around the planet thinking that everybody's going to agree with you.
13:22In my 40 years of life, I have never left a dinner party crying.
13:26I thought you ran away from a cult.
13:32I did.
13:35Doreese.
13:36Okay.
13:36Doreese.
13:36Okay, that's not nice.
13:37No, I'm just curious.
13:38I did leave a cult.
13:39What's not?
13:39I mean, it just doesn't sound nice.
13:41What does the cult have to do with anything?
13:43This woman disrespected me and my son on the anniversary of his death, and now she wants
13:49to bring up that I'm in a cult?
13:50She's just scraping the bottom of the barrel for anything she thinks will make me look bad.
13:54A cult?
13:55What kind?
13:57That's a whole different story.
14:01We can absolutely get to that anytime.
14:03I mean, I have an open book anytime.
14:06I knew that.
14:07I googled Amanda just like I googled everybody in the group.
14:10I know all the history of Amanda.
14:12It's all out there.
14:13It's on Reddit.
14:14It's everywhere.
14:15Even the people in the group that are saying, oh, I never googled anybody.
14:19We all Google everybody.
14:20It's like Meghan Markle saying, I never googled Prince Harry before I dated him.
14:24It's like, Meghan, please.
14:25You sort of maintain that you've lived a life where intense interactions have happened.
14:31And you're saying if you're in a cult, like, intense interactions would be happening.
14:36I would imagine there's far worse that you've experienced than what happened the other night.
14:40Far, far worse.
14:41Yeah, I'm not saying it's worse than that ever happened to me.
14:44I woke up.
14:44You're sitting in 40 inches, please.
14:46Let me finish.
14:46I woke up about every 30 minutes all night long with my heart beating very fast.
14:52My body interpreted it that evening as a physiological threat.
14:57Girl.
14:58Why are you shaking your head at that?
14:59I mean, your expectation of not having confrontation in the way that you don't like is unrealistic.
15:06That's true.
15:06So you need to understand that and also accept that.
15:11But can there be disagreements without conflict?
15:13No.
15:13You disagree, you sit, you speak, you have the intention to really hear each other, and there's not a huge
15:18conflict.
15:21Girl, what are you talking about?
15:23No.
15:24How?
15:25In this human experience?
15:28What fantasy world is Amanda living in?
15:30Because in this reality, we've got to have real conversations that push edges, that address conflict, that make us uncomfortable.
15:39Because I don't know any world in which Amanda thinks that she's the sole power to be able to control
15:45how people feel.
15:46We cannot control how people speak to us or how people react to us.
15:49We can only control how we react to other things.
15:51Yes.
15:52And trust me, if I could control how people speak to me, life would be a lot different.
15:57Hallelujah.
16:00I know verbal assault.
16:05Listen, I'm in a vulnerable state today.
16:07I'm on fire.
16:09I just, sorry.
16:12I mean, today's been an emotional day.
16:13The media's spiraling about my divorce, and I was completely blindsided by that.
16:19It's not like, oh my God, I'm so sad.
16:21I wish I was still married.
16:22It's like, it's none of that.
16:23It's just all lies.
16:25Guys, I feel like a f***ing ticking time bomb about to explode right now.
16:30But I try to really stay in, you know, gratitude and strength all the time.
16:36And sometimes it just causes a crack.
16:40She came into the car.
16:41She was fiery.
16:42She was fiery.
16:43Are you, wait, let me see your eyes.
16:45Oh, no.
16:49What's going on with Rachel?
16:53For all of the stoicism, for all of the professionalism, for all of the fabulosity, she is human.
17:00And so this divorce is going to cut really deep.
17:03I'm just sick of f***ing holding s*** together.
17:05Okay.
17:06Okay.
17:07Okay.
17:07You don't have to hold anything.
17:08That's where she is.
17:11You don't.
17:12Honey.
17:12It's like, even listening to f***ing Amanda, it's like, is anything I said in honesty, is that f***ing going to,
17:19like, blow up in my face?
17:20Okay.
17:20Like, f***.
17:21Okay.
17:21And I'm like, you know what?
17:23Okay.
17:23It's not okay.
17:24It's not like I can't, I can't take a f***ing high road every f***ing minute of my life.
17:30And you don't have to.
17:31And it's like, sometimes you just f***ing need to break.
17:34Yeah.
17:35And I break in my closet.
17:36And I break in my bathroom.
17:38And I break to my sister.
17:40Yeah.
17:40And like, I make like a hundred decisions a day, you know, between my life, my kid's life, my work
17:48life.
17:48At some point, you just are paralyzed with exhaustion and just feeling overwhelmed.
17:54And sometimes you just got to break in your closet.
17:56At least surround yourself with Chanel, for God's sake, you know?
18:00That'll always make me smile.
18:02And it's like, are people going to-
18:03And then you get f***ing judged.
18:04And then you get judged.
18:06You shouldn't be breaking because-
18:08No, no, no, no.
18:08Oh my God, it's going to come back to bite you in the ass.
18:10But f***ing you.
18:11Let's f***ing you.
18:12Then why are we worried about the judgment?
18:14God forbid.
18:15You actually don't hold it together every f***ing two seconds.
18:17You don't even have to tell me.
18:19I know that.
18:20I live it.
18:21It's hard enough to go through a separation, divorce, grief, and hold it together.
18:26I had to put on a brave face for my daughter while I grieved her father.
18:31And for me, a lot of the outlet was having my friends who would not judge me, who would allow
18:36me to cry, who would allow me to scream, and also give me the grace to be able to do
18:41it in a way that was comfortable for me.
18:44It's like one step forward, two steps back with us right now, and I just can't deal.
18:49It was a bad night.
18:49We need to just leave it alone.
18:51I can't feel like my friend thinks that every time I'm trying to help her, that I'm actually trying to
18:55hurt her.
18:55And she's in such a negative place right now that if we're going to be able to work on our
19:00friendship, I can't do this with her like this.
19:03I need to see her change a little bit.
19:06Oh, wait, wait, wait.
19:07Put it back in the kitchen.
19:10Back in the kitchen.
19:10Back in the kitchen.
19:12No, I want to leave.
19:13Okay.
19:14All right.
19:14You can bring it to come on.
19:15I'll go get her.
19:16I'll go get her.
19:17Hold on.
19:18Hold on.
19:18Hold on.
19:19Happy birthday to you.
19:23I hated this night, to be honest.
19:25It was annoying.
19:26I was looking cute.
19:28Happy birthday to you.
19:31One, two, three.
19:33Oh, this is probably the wrong time, but Kyle brought out the cake, so she wants you to come blow
19:38out your cake.
19:42I love everyone at that table.
19:44I can't go in right now.
19:45That's fine.
19:47I'm tired.
19:48And she's tired.
19:49I get it.
19:49I'm tired.
19:50I'm tired, but I'm telling you.
19:52Want to come play tennis with me in the morning?
19:55I forget what I have to do tomorrow.
19:56And I wanted a hot girl somewhere, and I'm not having fun at all.
20:01I'm having the opposite.
20:06Coming up.
20:07Hi, Dr. Duke.
20:08Hey, Dr. Duke.
20:09How are you?
20:10Well, guys, we have updates on embryos.
20:13I know that there are embryos who could become children.
20:17Oh, man.
20:18Okay.
20:30I've got a lot of things to say.
20:32I've been through a lot of challenges.
20:35From when I was young up until now, I've fallen.
20:39I've picked myself up.
20:40And I feel like it's the right time to write this book.
20:51Oh, how do you like it?
20:53You also get a t-shirt.
20:55Yay!
20:57You're getting a Maserati!
21:01Yay!
21:03Yay!
21:04Yay!
21:04Yay!
21:05Oh, I love you.
21:07You deserve it.
21:17I love you.
21:19Yay!
21:23Hey!
21:24I love you.
21:29Potties.
21:31Potties.
21:32Potties.
21:41OK.
21:51This is super rustic.
22:00It is.
22:05I can already see the first issue.
22:07Is there an elevator?
22:10Wait, no, for real, though.
22:12Hi.
22:13Nice to meet you.
22:14I'm Jen.
22:14Hi, I'm Chloe.
22:15Nice to meet you.
22:17Welcome, welcome.
22:17Hi, Chloe.
22:18Kyle.
22:19Nice to meet you.
22:20Welcome.
22:21It's a special place.
22:22We were just saying you don't feel like you're in L.A. at all.
22:26Right.
22:26Well, that's what she loves about it.
22:28The wedding is a month away, so today we're doing the final walkthrough so we can officially
22:33lock it in.
22:35Because we, well, we, well, she was going to get married in Aspen and it proved to be too
22:40complicated and for a multitude of reasons, so she wanted something with this vibe, you
22:45know, rustic and ranch vibes.
22:48We have alpacas, so.
22:50Oh, my gosh.
22:52As much as I would love to just change the date maybe, the invitation's already went
22:56out.
22:57That would be bad juju.
22:58There she is.
22:59What are you freaking out about?
23:00No, I was talking about how you like the moped with the tin can invitation.
23:05Oh, please.
23:06It was cute.
23:08I've never seen that one.
23:10Hi.
23:10You little cutie pie.
23:12I have invitation, so it's a paperless post.
23:16I went very classic and texted it to most people.
23:22I'm worried about my sister, Kathy, even seeing this text message.
23:26I mean, unless she gets a big envelope delivered to her house, is she even going to know what's
23:30going on?
23:31Hello.
23:33Hello.
23:34Oh, did you miss the link for the moon board, Kathy?
23:36Shocker.
23:37What if she shows up in like, I don't know, an orange dress?
23:41Yeah.
23:42How are you?
23:43Good.
23:43How are you?
23:44I'm good.
23:45I'm on the bride.
23:46Okay.
23:47Okay.
23:50Oh my God, this is amazing.
23:52I love it.
23:52We're going to be partying all night long in this room.
23:54Yeah, this room is really cool.
23:56100%.
23:56Then we've got a really great sound system, which is set up for vinyl, which is really
24:01fun.
24:01Well, now dad's taking DJ lessons.
24:04Let him do the party.
24:07Is it really?
24:08Do you have a big vinyl?
24:09Don't get me started.
24:11That's a hard no for me and a hard no for Alexia.
24:15Are you doing this so you can have a big debut at the wedding?
24:18No.
24:19I love music and I like, I have time on my hands.
24:22So like, why not take on a new hobby?
24:26We already have enough rumors about you going through a midlife crisis.
24:29Do you have to add fuel to the fire?
24:31His DJ name is going to be Momentum.
24:39Okay, next.
24:40Okay, let's go.
24:42Okay, so up next is where we do the ceremony.
24:47I'm visualizing all the trees and I'm seeing myself in the middle of all of that.
24:52I like that.
24:54Wait, where are we doing cocktails?
24:55Over there.
24:56Right.
24:57Yeah.
24:57Should it be here as well?
24:58We would have to do a build out on that for sure.
25:01It cannot accommodate 200.
25:02That'll increase the budget too.
25:08Alexia doesn't like the B word.
25:09That's a bad word.
25:10She said that the B word wakes her up in the middle of the night.
25:13So please refrain from using the B word with our child.
25:16Originally, Alexia wanted like 150 people and that number has grown a lot.
25:22Of course there is a ceiling to the budget.
25:26Obviously, in the six figures would be ideal.
25:29She is our first child getting married.
25:32I got to take care of them.
25:34Yeah.
25:34Three of them.
25:36You know, it's his first daughter getting married.
25:40We're going to exceed our unlimited budget.
25:42Just pay for this.
25:45What do we need to do to lock it all down and finalize everything so we can get the show
25:50on the road because I'm getting stressed with the little...
25:52There we go.
25:54You guys are ready to sign and send a deposit.
25:57Let's go.
25:57I mean, I think it's perfect.
26:02Coming up.
26:04I was worried about you the other night.
26:06This was not myself to begin with and then Dorit's getting judged for breaking.
26:11I need to know that I'm not being judged.
26:23Hey.
26:24Hi, Nibs.
26:25How are you?
26:25Hi.
26:26I'm good.
26:27Are you behaving?
26:28Always.
26:29Honey, I'm home.
26:30Come on in.
26:31Oh, my goodness.
26:32Hi.
26:32Are you going to get a drip or a shot?
26:35I'll do a shot.
26:36Okay, great.
26:37I don't do drips.
26:38I don't have good veins.
26:40Wait.
26:40Is it in you?
26:41Kathy's a very unique person.
26:43In some way, she reminds me of my mother.
26:45Just so sweet and so supportive.
26:47Do you want something?
26:48Do you want wine or do you want...
26:50Oh, a little wine.
26:51White, white.
26:51It's great.
26:52Thank you so much.
26:56Like...
26:58I remember at my dinner party being like, where's Kathy?
27:03She's on the table.
27:04One of the girls was like, she's at the caviar table.
27:08What do we have over here?
27:09Caviar.
27:10Of course we do.
27:12Oh, no.
27:12What?
27:13A little more caviar.
27:14A little more caviar.
27:15And leave it all over the place.
27:17And by the time she sat down, she's like, I just ate so much caviar.
27:20I'm just not even hungry.
27:21And I was like, that is what my mother would do.
27:24You know Paula.
27:25How are you?
27:26The lady.
27:27Nice to see you.
27:28I just die.
27:29I was worried about you the other night.
27:32It was interesting.
27:33Okay, so basically, I saw Page Six.
27:37I saw Us Weekly.
27:37I'm like, what is happening?
27:39In my mind, Kathy, I'm doing this as a mediation intentionally, quietly,
27:44so that this doesn't happen and that my kids don't have to hear it.
27:49And it doesn't affect the children.
27:49I just don't want my kids dealing with any of this.
27:53And rightfully so, right?
27:55Like, hi, how are you?
27:57How are you?
27:58I'm good, thank you.
27:59We're going to be doing a Niagen IV today, the Niagen shot.
28:02We're doing magnesium.
28:04Right.
28:05No, no, no, it's better for you.
28:06We're doing a bunch of...
28:07This is way better.
28:08Yeah.
28:08I just have, like, bad veins, so I just don't.
28:11I know.
28:12Thank you so much.
28:14Honestly, Kathy, like, I just was not myself to begin with.
28:17And then I was, like, down at the end of the table.
28:20Dorit's getting judged for breaking in this group.
28:24Right.
28:25And I think it was just the breaking point for me.
28:28Because I need to know that I'm not being judged.
28:31Because being judged really sucks.
28:34You want support.
28:35You want support.
28:36So what I was saying is, guys, are you judging what I'm saying right now?
28:40Am I not safe to speak freely here?
28:43I don't think it's that we don't want or value other people's opinions.
28:47I just think everyone in this group, whether they agree or not with how she's handling it,
28:53they need to just be here to hold her and cheer for her.
28:56That's it.
28:57It's grace.
28:58There needs to be grace.
28:59I just, honestly, I miss my family so much.
29:02Right.
29:03I really...
29:03And you need them now.
29:05I also need to go out.
29:06You know I'm always in the Hamptons all summer and in Europe.
29:09And obviously working all summer now in LA, which is new for me.
29:12And I think it's, like, starting to affect my whole...
29:15Mental health.
29:16It is.
29:16Like, I actually, like, I need to go out.
29:18I need to laugh.
29:19Right.
29:20And have a hunger.
29:21I need...
29:21And listen, it's not the south of France, but it's as close as we're gonna get right now.
29:25That's right.
29:25Just be careful.
29:27Are you scared I'm gonna make out with a cute boy or something?
29:29Mmm.
29:30What's bad about that?
29:46Let's get in here.
29:47Hi, Dr. Duke.
29:48Hey, Dr. Duke.
29:49How are you?
29:50Doing great.
29:50Good, good, good.
29:51How are you?
29:52I'm good.
29:53I'm good.
29:54Happy Thursday.
29:54Happy Thursday.
29:56Happy Thursday.
29:59Well, guys, we have updates on the ovaries.
30:03Okay.
30:05I have even more intense feelings today than I did when the eggs were retrieved.
30:13You did great.
30:16Two eggs.
30:17One from each ovary.
30:19I am more anxious.
30:21I am more excited.
30:22I am more nervous.
30:24I am more fearful.
30:25I am more joyful.
30:26All of those feelings have intensified because I know that they're embryos who could become
30:32children.
30:33Oh, man.
30:34All of my emotions are on high.
30:36We had two eggs.
30:38Both were successfully fertilized with sperm.
30:42Ideally, the sixth day, we would want to see what's called a blastocyst.
30:47It's like a tiny planet that's capable of implanting in the womb.
30:52Unfortunately, neither has made it to the blastocyst stage.
30:58Is this entirely unexpected?
31:01No.
31:02Is it sad and disappointing?
31:04Yes.
31:07I feel really overwhelmed.
31:09Right now, I can barely hear anything else beyond the roar in my ears that this hasn't worked.
31:16The biggest egg factor, unfortunately, is the age of the egg.
31:20What we can do is try to support them, but there's nothing we can do to restructure eggs.
31:26The big question now is any openness to the idea of using eggs from someone younger.
31:32But we only have a finite window.
31:34We certainly don't have another year.
31:35In this process, the things...
31:37Oh, I'm so sorry, Rose.
31:39So this is where this helps.
31:43All of the hopes and dreams and aspirations that I had for these two little embryos that I had already
31:50started to picture who they were going to become are gone.
31:54Are we still scheduled for the second round?
31:57Yes.
31:58It's up to you guys, ultimately.
32:00But I want her continuing the daily shot, the supplements, the vitamins.
32:05It feels like grief.
32:07It feels like losing a baby.
32:10Because that's how I envisioned them.
32:13And so these aren't just inanimate objects out in the world.
32:18These are Keely and I's babies.
32:21Okay.
32:22She's coming back.
32:23Okay.
32:24She's back.
32:24All right.
32:26Just need to get some tissue.
32:28That's all right.
32:29Yeah.
32:29Okay.
32:30All right.
32:31Thank you, Dr. Duke.
32:33I think knowing that doing all of that again may not result in great eggs again, you know, is what
32:47is disappointing to me.
32:49We'll cross that bridge when we get there.
32:51Okay.
32:52Right now, let's just focus on being as healthy as we can.
32:55Right?
32:55For this next round.
32:56I need some breakfast.
32:57I need something to eat.
32:58All right.
32:59Same, same, same.
33:01Okay.
33:02Come out.
33:02Oh.
33:04First.
33:07Love you.
33:08Love you too, baby.
33:11Coming up.
33:12Is it called like something you don't want to actually say that you're a part of?
33:16It's not a good thing.
33:17There's something amiss.
33:20Let's see who the bitch is.
33:41Hey, honey.
33:47Hi.
33:49This color's so pretty on you.
33:53I'm not getting up because I'm lazy.
33:57Can I get drinks started or any appetizers?
34:00Is the Pinot Grigio dryer or the Sanser?
34:02The Sanser.
34:03I would have a glass of that.
34:04I'm just going to order a few appetizers to start.
34:06To start or anything.
34:07Okay.
34:07Spicy tuna crisp.
34:09They have a vegan roll, you guys.
34:10Let's do that.
34:11I mean, a salad's fine.
34:13A baby green salad?
34:13No dressing, yeah.
34:14Perfect.
34:15Okay.
34:15Thank you so much.
34:16You guys, do I look like I slept one hour?
34:18No.
34:19No, you don't.
34:21First of all, where did you go?
34:24Where did I go?
34:25I've just heard that you said it behind my back and you're judging.
34:29Sutton's the one who told me that Amanda was talking behind my back.
34:32She's the one who started this show.
34:34Let me tell you what she said about you.
34:36Oh, God.
34:36She's concerned that you're talking too much about the divorce and that it might come back to bite you.
34:42But instead of calling Amanda out for lying, she was radio silent.
34:47You are very strong.
34:50You fight your own battles really well.
34:52Yes, yes.
34:53No, I didn't want you to fight a battle.
34:55No, not at all.
34:56Amanda, she basically is echoing how Kyle feels.
34:58Here's the thing though, she made it out that at Cathy's, she was asked,
35:05what did you and Kyle talk about when we got together?
35:07Right, right.
35:08No, she had an opinion.
35:09She did say, oh, he's a raging alcoholic and he didn't like that.
35:14But if it's true...
35:16Well, still.
35:17Maybe you shouldn't say it about the father of your children.
35:23I'm sorry, I thought that that was clear that she had an opinion.
35:26Was it a loud and strong opinion?
35:29She's basically playing in this down like,
35:32Dorit, you're taking this too far.
35:34This was a nothing thought.
35:36She had her own opinion about it.
35:38But I have to say, it was pretty ballsy to punt it to Kyle last night.
35:42When you do not own something, all it does is enrage the other person.
35:48What I'm doing in that situation is, I'm sorry, I barely know you.
35:54I gave my opinion.
35:55I was probably out of line.
35:56I apologize.
35:58And going forward, I will keep my thoughts to myself.
36:02If someone owns it and apologizes, you can't keep it going.
36:06Okay, but, but, but, it's like, no.
36:08They took it on the chin, they said it.
36:10I mean, this isn't hard.
36:13It's called being an adult.
36:15I was waiting for Kyle to be like, Amanda, stop putting this on me.
36:21Because this has nothing to do with me.
36:24This is your opinion.
36:27This weather is so perfect.
36:29It's so good.
36:30It's such a nice day.
36:31You did a really beautiful job on the house, by the way.
36:34So beautiful.
36:35My life is so peaceful, like with my family.
36:38These friendships are the only things not really feeling peaceful.
36:41I genuinely believed that Dorit and I could easily clear the air around this.
36:46But now I don't know what the to think.
36:48I have to get something out of my shoe.
36:49Can you sit over here for a second?
36:50She doesn't want to resolve.
36:52She doesn't want to understand.
36:53She doesn't want to see where each other is coming from.
36:56And she didn't even apologize.
36:59It was so stressful.
37:03And like that whole dinner from the beginning.
37:05And it's like, I just was so annoyed.
37:07The energy she was directing at me, she switched it to you and then switched it back to me.
37:11My frustration with Dorit is, Bose could say the exact same thing that I said,
37:15and she would have a completely different action than she does if I say it.
37:18If he wants to go to Florida in a hotel, let them do that and then he'll go with your
37:21parents.
37:22I don't think you understand, Kyle.
37:24You need to let him be the bearer of the bad news.
37:28Exactly.
37:30You told me you experienced him as a good father.
37:32So I see how you could be conflicted.
37:34Regardless of what I know or don't know and all that, I still stand by the fact that it's smarter
37:39just to not put the stuff out there.
37:42But I think she's so angry, she doesn't care.
37:44Dorit is completely blinded to any help or advice that I want to offer as her friend right now.
37:49And I don't know if there's a way to get back on track until she's in a better place.
37:54I don't think she's open to that.
37:56I think she's too angry right now with everything.
37:59It's so crazy to me how everything switched.
38:02I had such a good time.
38:04I was getting to know Bose, talking about entrepreneurship.
38:07Really it was kind of like a self-empowerment girlfriend pep talk.
38:11And Dorit seemed really into it and receptive.
38:15I have no idea when we flipped.
38:21All I've heard is about her business.
38:22I've not heard anything about her past, her upbringing.
38:27Like I want to know more about the cult.
38:29That was insane, I just want you to know.
38:31I was not armed for that.
38:32The cult part?
38:33I just wasn't armed for it.
38:34It's okay to talk about it because it's on her website.
38:36You guys, am I an idiot?
38:37Like, isn't cult like something you don't want to actually say that you're a part of?
38:42Maybe if you survive this.
38:43She claims to be very open and transparent.
38:45But the term cult.
38:47It's not a good thing.
38:49There's something amiss.
38:50And I would like to know and understand Amanda.
38:53It's not what you see is what you get.
38:56At the end of the day, this is a process of it's going to roll out who she actually really
39:01is.
39:02And I think we have the right to ask those questions.
39:07Let's see who the f*** she is.
39:23Let's see who the f*** she is.
39:25Let's see who the f*** she is.
39:29What do you think that we can do to make her feel more open to tell us stuff like, how'd
39:34you end up in a cult?
39:35And how did you escape?
39:37I can do that.
39:38How can we...
39:38I can tell her.
39:39...make her feel more included?
39:41Amanda is an enigma to me.
39:45It seems very quiet.
39:48But what's going on in there?
39:53I do want to know the story of your business.
39:57That's exciting to me.
39:58You're a self-made entrepreneur.
40:01You're killing it.
40:02That's f***ing awesome.
40:04But that could be a deflection because she identifies herself as her business.
40:09Do you understand?
40:10Because a lot of people do that.
40:11When you have a successful business, some people are trying to hide.
40:15And they go, the work is their identity.
40:19All I can do is share my truth, right?
40:22I thought it was vulnerable and authentic for me to say that I have never left a dinner
40:27party crying before.
40:28That I woke up through the night with my heart being out of my chest.
40:31I was just sharing what was real for me.
40:33And she brought up the most random, irrelevant...
40:37It was like she's trying to dig up dirt.
40:39But there was no dirt there.
40:40I'm not hiding the cult story.
40:43I'm not hiding anything about my life.
40:45At some point, I am going to have to hear more about this cult.
40:47Any time.
40:49I'm actually a wealth of information about cult.
40:51I mean, yeah, sure.
40:53Looking at Amanda, she doesn't exactly scream cult member.
40:56But by doing this deep dive on Amanda, Dorit was trying to get information to embarrass her.
41:03What is she gaining from this?
41:05I don't really understand except that she's in a bad place right now and not her best version of herself.
41:10But to her, this isn't a bad version of herself.
41:13This is open and honest.
41:14I need to be able to be open and honest.
41:17I need support from my friends right now.
41:19I'm in a place where I don't want to hold it inside.
41:21And then I have to go through this without support.
41:23It's poisonous.
41:24I came into this year and truly believed that Kyle and I were going to rebuild our friendship.
41:29But her actions and her words are telling me something totally different.
41:33And until she starts showing up as an actual friend who supports me, I can't continue to play this game
41:43of fake friends.
41:46I have protected Kyle for years.
41:49I have protected Kyle at all costs, even when I felt the most betrayed, the most hurt.
41:58Where her and I had no friendship whatsoever, I still protected her.
42:02I don't think you think she wants the best for you.
42:04You just don't trust her.
42:06You just don't.
42:07Like, you just don't trust her.
42:12Next on The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
42:15With regards to the kids.
42:17I would like for P.K. and I not to be on opposite sides.
42:20I'm hearing different stories.
42:21I was going to invite Doree to the Hamptons.
42:23I'm a little annoyed with her.
42:25You guys cannot fight all weekend.
42:26I talked to my sweetheart today.
42:28What's up with the sweetheart? Oh my God!
42:30Why do I like dating John?
42:31He's just not shakeable.
42:34I really believe in life that intention matters.
42:36You can't be such a wimp.
42:38They're in my home.
42:39Don't call me a wimp.
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