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00:04Giddy up, horsey.
00:06Giddy up, horsey.
00:07Yeah, that's good.
00:09Good job.
00:12Are they getting all up or down?
00:13Yeah, they will.
00:14Okay, good.
00:17Oh, it's moving.
00:22You want it to go faster?
00:24No.
00:25No?
00:25This is good?
00:27Daddy, get on the horse.
00:28I should get on the horse, too.
00:30Giddy up, horsey.
00:31Come on.
00:32I'm going to win the race.
00:36Yeehaw.
00:37Go faster, horsey.
00:39Oh, look at Mommy on the horse, too.
00:41We're going to catch up to her.
00:42We're catching up, Mommy.
00:43Ooh.
00:44Look at me.
00:45I can do no hands.
00:46Ooh.
00:48Can you do no hands?
00:49Yes.
00:50Oh, good.
00:53Good job.
00:57So, how do you guys know each other?
01:00The first time we met was in a mall for me to get pregnant.
01:05And it's been good ever since.
01:08She reached out to me online to help her grow her family.
01:12She already had two children, and she wanted a third.
01:15So, we met a couple times and told Penelope until she was pregnant.
01:19So, sometimes it works the first time.
01:21Sometimes it takes a couple tries.
01:22And is Penelope early child, middle child, late child?
01:27Um, she's probably my middle child, I would guess.
01:31Yeah.
01:33Like me, you know.
01:35So, we want to make sure to give her extra attention because middle children need extra attention.
01:41Penelope is number 73.
01:43So, how many kids do you have?
01:47Uh, April 7th, 164 was born.
01:51Yeah, but I have a nine on the way because I have a woman pregnant in Africa.
01:56I have a woman pregnant in Europe.
01:57I have a woman pregnant in Asia.
02:00Well, the Middle East.
02:01And I have a woman pregnant in Canada.
02:03And then the rest are just around the U.S.
02:07So, at the end of this year, you will have 173 children, if I've added that up correctly.
02:13You did.
02:13Yeah, and the year's not over yet.
02:15I think if I conceive any this week, that might still be a tax write-off for 2024.
02:31Yeah, and the year's not over yet.
02:51Three, four, five, six.
03:00Three, two, one.
03:03See ya.
03:05In this series, we'll explore the whys of some of the most fascinating people on the planet.
03:11It's always scary.
03:13But the best things in life are on the other side of fear.
03:17Go.
03:18Hey, Larry.
03:21Some whys may be hard to swallow.
03:23You know why?
03:24We were just in the carousel with Penelope.
03:26How much joy she brings to my life.
03:28Contact!
03:29Contact!
03:29Some whys may never fully be answered.
03:32The virus has gotten out.
03:33The zombie apocalypse is really bad.
03:35Who have you done bunkers for?
03:37Kardashians.
03:38Zuckerberg.
03:39But it's through understanding others that we can better understand ourselves.
03:44If I understand it right, they're aliens.
03:46They're aliens.
03:47People do curious things.
03:49One minute!
03:52The question is, why?
04:01You may have guessed, Ari is a sperm donor and one of the most prolific in the world.
04:06He's been nicknamed the Sperminator.
04:12Daddy, clear ground!
04:14Whoa!
04:15We found it!
04:17I was surprised to hear her say, Daddy.
04:21Yes, she's with Ari.
04:23She has such a close bond with him.
04:27She was calling him Daddy.
04:28I was like, whoa.
04:30You know what I mean?
04:30But he didn't mind.
04:32Daddy, climb out the side!
04:37I'm going to catch you.
04:39Now that she has 165 siblings, or dibblings as they call them.
04:45Yeah, dibblings.
04:46Yes.
04:47How do you feel about that?
04:49I think at first it was like, whoa, you know.
04:53But then I was like, you know what?
04:55Maybe the more the merrier.
04:56Maybe when she grows older she will have a lot of support.
05:01You want to get off the swing?
05:02Yes.
05:03Okay.
05:04Do you see yourself in love?
05:06I see a likeness, but I don't know.
05:07I like to call her a Jamaican.
05:09Because a Jamaican and a Jew.
05:11Right!
05:12Yeah, so...
05:12Oh, my God!
05:13Jamaican!
05:14The thing is, is that sometimes they choose me because I'm a math professor,
05:17and they want the kid to be good at math.
05:19Or I have blue eyes, and they want the kid to have blue eyes.
05:21Or I'm tall, and they want to give the kid height,
05:23because maybe they're height challenged.
05:24I don't really care if my kid has any of those attributes.
05:27The one attribute I really want my children to have, which I possess,
05:30and I don't even know if it's hereditary or not, is that I'm happy.
05:32And that's all I really want from my kids.
05:34Yeah.
05:35If they're bad at math, that's okay, as long as they're happy, you know?
05:38Yes, I think so.
05:50Is that our ferry?
05:52Uh...
05:53You're the New Yorker.
05:54That's gone by.
05:55Yeah, it's gone by.
05:56Show me the schedule.
05:58Jing Liu?
05:59Jing Liu is a woman that's pregnant in Canada,
06:01so I was with my Chinese baby and baby mama yesterday,
06:04so we made a little video, because she's in her second trimester.
06:08Rebecca is in a Christian evangelical who wants to have a baby,
06:13and then Anthony, I think, is just some pervert
06:16who keeps on asking me when my last ejaculate was.
06:20Can you ship your sperm?
06:22I have shipped it before.
06:23There was a heterosexual couple,
06:25and I don't think they wanted me to show up to their little town,
06:28and so I ended up mailing it, and it works.
06:31It's a little expensive, because you've got to overnight it, you know?
06:34You can't just send it over a couple of days.
06:35So that's why you're so mobile, isn't it?
06:38Because the time frame of which the sperm is useful is short.
06:42Once you test positive, you really have, like, a 24-hour window
06:44of when you want to be able to try, of when the woman's fertile.
06:48So you want to be able to meet, and then, of course,
06:50even if she's fertile, you want to maximize your chances.
06:52You really want to do it as close to ovulation as possible.
06:56Ari doesn't have a fixed address.
06:59He's constantly on the move.
07:01Couchsurfing between his baby mothers throughout the year.
07:03You've had some, well, you've had problems, right?
07:06You went into it with genuine intent, and they ended up suing you.
07:11How does that work?
07:12I'm legally the father, because I'm biologically the father.
07:16If you're biologically the father, you're legally the father.
07:19But then that puts you at huge legal risk.
07:22Yeah, but for 164 of these children could file for child support.
07:26That is correct, yes.
07:27So they get a percentage of my salary.
07:28So if I'm making $100,000, the first one's getting 17%.
07:31That means I have $83,000 left.
07:33The next one's only going to get 17% of the $83,000 that's left.
07:37The thing is, is that there's only a limited amount of money.
07:39So after the first few moms sued, there's less money that you'd be able to get.
07:43So it really wouldn't be as much of an incentive.
07:45But I think it really speaks to the character for so many of these women.
07:48And people are always saying, like, well, these five women that sued me.
07:52Don't look at the five women that sued me.
07:54There's 160 moms that didn't sue me.
07:59Yeah, I mean, in some ways, that's remarkable.
08:01That's remarkable.
08:02Exactly.
08:05Hey, how you doing?
08:07So what time are we meeting up today?
08:09Yeah, 2.30.
08:102.30 works?
08:11You want to do Times Square, Grand Central, Penn Station?
08:16Yeah.
08:16Okay, I'll see you at 2.30.
08:18So what was that about?
08:21That's a woman who tested positive.
08:23And she's at peak fertility, and she's off today.
08:26So it's good timing, and we're going to meet her this afternoon.
08:30We didn't really pick a concrete spot,
08:33but we'll find, like, a public restroom around there and do the handoff.
08:48Ari's on a mission to make his next deposit.
08:51I'm on a mission to understand why.
08:54But keeping up with Ari, well, that's no simple task.
08:57Okay.
08:59Two minutes.
09:03I can't help but wonder why.
09:05Why do you do this?
09:07You live this nomadic lifestyle.
09:09You've got 164 children.
09:12Why?
09:15Well, you know why, okay?
09:18We were just in the carousel with Penelope.
09:20You saw how beautiful she is, how much joy she brings to my life,
09:25how much joy I brought to her mother.
09:28So that, to me, is reason enough.
09:31But what about the people that say it's got to be narcissism?
09:36Ari's building a whole community around himself.
09:39Like, what do you say to those people?
09:44I understand that.
09:45Makes a lot of sense.
09:46So what should I do?
09:47Should I do the random person online and care about what they think?
09:52Or do I care about what my children's mothers think?
09:54I mean, in the end, you can't please all the people all the time.
09:57So who are you going to try and please?
09:59In the end, you want to please the people that are close to you
10:02because their opinions are the ones that really matter.
10:05What about the donor kids, though, when they get older?
10:08What's the impact there?
10:10Like, Penelope has, you know, 165 siblings.
10:19Yeah.
10:20Like, what about them?
10:21Because they don't get a say, right?
10:24Because they're not born.
10:25Exactly.
10:26Children never get a say.
10:28I think if you look at donor-conceived children,
10:30certainly they would prefer if they didn't have as many children.
10:34This is us.
10:35Okay.
10:35Let's just continue that.
10:37Uh-huh.
10:40Well, you're on the two platform.
10:42That's where I'm going to go.
10:42I'm going to go like I'm taking the two train downtown, right?
10:45Because you're on the downtown platform, right?
10:48Okay, perfect.
10:49So I'm going to be there in just two, three minutes.
10:52All right, bye-bye.
10:54So who's that?
10:55Uh, that's, uh, my 230.
10:59She's the one that's, uh, ovulating now.
11:01So I'm going to go now, and you'll tell her that, uh,
11:03if I have another baby with her,
11:05that, uh, other people might think that it's narcissistic
11:08and that I shouldn't.
11:09Because I get it.
11:09I understand.
11:10Why am I spreading my seed?
11:11Why do I need so many children?
11:12Yes.
11:13But I think ultimately what matters is how many children
11:15the woman I'm helping has.
11:17That's who's going to be raising the child.
11:18I'd like to think in my heart of hearts
11:20that it feels like the right thing to do.
11:22But we don't know.
11:23I guess when do we find out?
11:25When the kids grow up and we see if they're productive citizens?
11:28We see how many of them are criminals
11:30and how many of them are police officers?
11:35Ah, there you are.
11:37How are you doing?
11:38Good to see you.
11:39Thanks for coming out.
11:40Looking nice.
11:42I'm Todd.
11:43Hey Todd.
11:44Nice to meet you.
11:44Nice to meet you.
11:45It's the subway.
11:46So I've seen many people ejaculate here on the subway.
11:49But let's go maybe somewhere less public.
11:51Yeah.
11:51Not as many witnesses.
11:52We don't need so many witnesses, you know.
11:55We could try and find maybe a hotel restroom.
12:00You know, works.
12:02Times Square is not the most ideal place
12:04to find the restroom.
12:07You have a daughter, Skylar.
12:09Skylar.
12:10Who is your daughter?
12:11We have a daughter, Skylar.
12:12That Skylar's ours.
12:13Yes.
12:14Oh, okay.
12:14Yes.
12:15So which number is Skylar?
12:16111.
12:17Skylar's 111?
12:18111, yeah.
12:19Because he travels a lot,
12:20I had to ensure that I caught him
12:22at LaGuardia Airport coming from Florida.
12:25So Skylar was conceived in LaGuardia Airport?
12:27Yes.
12:28The restroom.
12:29So what are we doing now?
12:31We're looking for a place.
12:32We're going to look for a restroom in Times Square.
12:35We'll find a hotel.
12:37The hotel lobbies are pretty good
12:40because sometimes they have multiple stalls
12:41so nobody's going to be knocking.
12:43Sometimes you go to like a coffee shop
12:45and there might just be one restroom for boys and girls
12:47and then there's people waiting
12:48and then I got to ejaculate under pressure.
12:50I don't need that extra pressure
12:52even though I'm professional and quick.
12:56Quick as I've seen.
12:58Oh, God.
12:59Is that good or is that bad?
13:01She's a lesbian.
13:02She doesn't see much, okay?
13:04Quick is probably the only one she's seen.
13:05Come on.
13:06All right, let's find one.
13:07I'm sure we can find one.
13:08I'm trying to pretend this is all normal.
13:10I'm pretty sure that there's people
13:12ejaculating in the restrooms already, you know?
13:14We're just doing it for maybe
13:16a more altruistic reason than most.
13:19Are you guys okay that we just passed
13:21a 600-pound gorilla and Deadpool?
13:24Yeah, I didn't even see that.
13:26Do you even see it?
13:27I did.
13:29Okay, it's all happening.
13:31Let's go.
13:31We're going to make a right here on the corner.
13:33Okay, we're going this way.
13:34We're following you, Ari.
13:35That in itself is a scary concept.
13:39The naked cowboy or the naked ladies.
13:41See, what I'm going to do is
13:43I'm going to look at the naked ladies now
13:44and get inspiration for the sample
13:46that I'm about to produce.
13:52We're going to use this hotel right here.
13:54Let's have a little game plan
13:55on what we're going to do here.
13:56Yeah, here's what we're going to do.
13:57I'm going to go in there.
13:58I'm going to ejaculate.
13:59Okay.
14:00I'm going to give it to her.
14:01She's going to put it inside
14:02and then we're going to be on our way.
14:04The whole ordeal is going to take
14:05less than five minutes.
14:06Chick-chop.
14:12I only like to ejaculate
14:13in the finest hotels.
14:14No, it's good.
14:14Yes.
14:15Why go four-star
14:16when you could go five-star?
14:17Yeah.
14:18Okay?
14:18Because we're going to make
14:19Crystal a five-star baby.
14:27This is nice.
14:31All right, what's happening?
14:32All we need is swipe to get in.
14:34Oh, it's locked?
14:36Oh, my God, that is total rejection.
14:38I mean, this is pretty surreal,
14:40the toilet search.
14:42I like to ejaculate in the mirror,
14:44you know?
14:44Oh, God.
14:45Hurry, don't do that.
14:48I don't know.
14:49I feel a little dodgy like mine.
14:51Oh, they're both reserved.
14:56It's not going to smell good.
14:57Oh, really?
14:58Well, I don't know.
14:58They're not doing a number one.
15:00Okay.
15:03Just let me see what's happening.
15:05What do you got?
15:06First of all,
15:06I'm going to wash my hands thoroughly.
15:08You got some fancy soap here.
15:11Body wash,
15:11and this is a hand wash.
15:14Yeah.
15:15I'm just going to go on the internet.
15:17You're going to watch porn?
15:18Oh, I'm going to watch porn, sure.
15:19I mean, I could do it without
15:21if I have to.
15:22You have any preferable porn sites?
15:24Sometimes it's like,
15:25I'm not just Googling it,
15:26but sometimes I'll try and mimic
15:28whatever the woman
15:30that I'm helping is,
15:31so if she's an African-American lesbian,
15:34that's probably what I'll look for, right?
15:36Why not?
15:37What do you think?
15:38I'm not choosing your porn.
15:39Is my lesbians in action?
15:43All right.
15:44I reckon I should get up
15:45before you hit play.
15:47I'll be back in two minutes.
15:52Oh, my God.
15:53Is he done?
15:54Yeah.
15:54Oh.
15:55He's the first guy.
16:01He's the first guy.
16:09She's sorry.
16:11There's no foreplay involved.
16:14This is really just about...
16:17Wow.
16:17So that just threw her in there
16:18like something in it.
16:20What a profession.
16:21Yeah, professional.
16:21Well, it depends.
16:23There's someone else
16:23that's ovulating later today.
16:25That's going to be more of a challenge.
16:27It'll take me a little bit more time.
16:28Because of this one.
16:29Exactly.
16:30That if you space it out
16:31and there's two, three days in between,
16:33then it won't take any time at all.
16:35But two in a day is...
16:38Months in a while,
16:38you have to double up.
16:39It's not the most ideal
16:41because it's not just more challenging.
16:42For me,
16:42it's also a lot less firm.
16:43You want to wait maybe 36, 48 hours.
16:47That'll replenish your sperm count.
16:49The clinics want you to really wait two days.
16:54Shouldn't you guys like hug now?
16:56Kiss or something?
16:57Like do something.
16:58I just feel like something needs to happen.
17:01Well...
17:01Are you okay?
17:02Me and Crystal never had one fight.
17:05Not a one.
17:06Yeah.
17:06Not a one.
17:07And our baby's two years old.
17:08That means we know each other three years.
17:09We have nothing to fight about.
17:10Yeah, but how many times
17:11have we seen each other in two years?
17:12Okay, that's true.
17:14We're not seeing each other.
17:16We're not living with each other.
17:16She doesn't know what a slob I am.
17:18So all that...
17:19But we had some good meetups though.
17:21Yeah.
17:21For a kiss, birthday party.
17:23Like for me,
17:24this is...
17:24It's quite bizarre
17:26that we're like in a hotel
17:28kind of covertly
17:31doing a little...
17:32Well, we could get a room here.
17:33It's like $500 a night.
17:34I don't know if that's in the budget.
17:35But did we really need a room
17:37to do what we just did?
17:38Of course not.
17:39Let's get out of here
17:40before we get busted.
17:41Okay, well,
17:42I wish you lots of luck.
17:49All right, see you tomorrow.
17:51All right, ciao.
17:52We got to go, all right?
17:53You got another drop happening.
17:55I might need your help on this one.
17:56Come on, Todd.
17:57Oh, God.
17:58Step up to the plate.
17:59I'm not helping you.
17:59You go, man.
18:00No, wait, not here.
18:01Here, here.
18:02Why is he going?
18:04Let's just...
18:05Oh, there we go.
18:05You've made three times.
18:06Why'd you let him go?
18:07I don't know.
18:10Uh, we, uh, this isn't our train.
18:19This is us.
18:28So, you don't get paid for this.
18:31Right.
18:32So, why do you do it?
18:34Like, why do you do it?
18:35Do you...
18:36Because it's not easy.
18:37Once you start accepting money for something, it changes the dynamic of the relationship
18:41because they're looking to me as family, you know, as a donor.
18:45And if I was accepting money for it, I think not only would it change our relationship, but
18:51it would also...
18:52The children know that there was no money exchanged for their conception, you know?
18:55Well, I think when I started, you know, 16 years ago, I think there was a desire to grow my
19:02family.
19:02I had one son, and I wanted a bigger family.
19:05I'm one of seven, and I'm from a big family, so I want a big family myself.
19:09So, I think I was like, oh, well, I could help these women grow their families while also growing my
19:14family.
19:14I don't think that's the case anymore.
19:16Once you have, you know, a family, there's no desire for me to have my 165th child, okay?
19:24But this woman that we're on our way to be helping 530 today, she has one child, okay?
19:31She wants to give that child a sibling.
19:33She doesn't want that kid to be an only child.
19:34She wants number two.
19:35So, it's not about me having my 165th.
19:37It's about giving her a second child.
19:50All right, let's see what kind of car.
19:52Could it be a Tesla?
19:53Where are they driving?
19:54So, where are they?
19:56Hello?
19:56Hey, how you doing?
19:58Good.
19:59We're right in front.
20:00Where are you at?
20:01We are inside.
20:02Oh, you're inside the lobby?
20:05Anyway, good to see you.
20:06Good to see you as well.
20:07We didn't meet this since Christmas of 2021.
20:10Correct.
20:10Right?
20:11Yeah.
20:11Yeah, I remember.
20:12Let's go up to the room.
20:13All right.
20:14Okay.
20:15Todd offered us his...
20:17Yeah, it's my room.
20:18...his hotel room.
20:19Yes.
20:19Except if it's a boy, we have to name it Todd.
20:21No, you don't.
20:22So, we'll have T, Todd, Tiana.
20:24No, no.
20:24Boom, we have it all covered.
20:26No, you don't.
20:27All right.
20:28Now, there's not a lot of room in these hotel rooms.
20:30I'm warning you now.
20:31Uh-huh.
20:32We are going to be tight.
20:33Good.
20:33We like it tight.
20:36Well, welcome, everyone.
20:37We are gathered here today.
20:39You want to jump on the bed?
20:40Yeah.
20:41Yeah.
20:42Now we're talking.
20:43I'm not going to jump.
20:43I want to hold.
20:44So, how did you meet Ari?
20:47So, back in 2021, I think that's when we met, in December, we were in search of a donor.
20:54And I was online.
20:55I'm just looking, looking, and I'm like, you know what?
20:57We have a particular type.
20:59We wanted someone educated.
21:00And then we came across a Facebook group, and we ended up in that group, and people, like,
21:05different people were just talking about it and talking about you.
21:08In a good way?
21:09In a great way.
21:10Okay.
21:10In a great way.
21:11And so, your boy is not from Ari, right?
21:14No, but he is also a donor-conceived baby.
21:17Oh.
21:18Well, it's a beautiful family.
21:19I hope I can help it grow.
21:22And I like that, that you alternate.
21:24You know?
21:24You carried one.
21:25Now it's your turn.
21:26Yes.
21:26You know, it's good to mix it up a little bit.
21:28Yeah.
21:28Do you guys have a cup for me, or do you want me to use a soft cup?
21:32Oh, you do?
21:33Okay.
21:35How old are you?
21:36I am 23.
21:3723?
21:38Yes, and I turned 24 in October.
21:40Hey, here you go.
21:41Okay, great.
21:45And this is the cup.
21:46Mm-hmm.
21:47Oh.
21:48So, I'm going to put my sperm in there, and then they're going to, like, maybe put their
21:52foot up, and then squeeze it, and then just put it inside, and then maybe before they
21:57go to bed tonight, they'll take it out and throw it away.
21:59Yeah.
22:00All right, good.
22:01All right, you're going to time me?
22:02Yes.
22:03See you in 15 seconds.
22:06All right, that's my bathroom, so take it easy in there.
22:09Yeah, all right.
22:10I got you.
22:11Does it feel awkward to you at all?
22:13You know, we've been trying for quite a while.
22:17It's like, I'm really used to it at this point.
22:20I've become a norm to it, let's say that.
22:23Yes, yes.
22:24It's natural now.
22:25We come in, just do what you have to do.
22:26We wait, and then go about our day.
22:29A quick give and go.
22:30Yeah.
22:32Should I put the volume on full blast for the porn?
22:35Oh, God.
22:36See, well, we go third.
22:37Are you really going to be, like, masturbating in my toilet with porn?
22:44Relax.
22:45I'm sure I wouldn't be the first one.
22:49How involved do you want Ari?
22:50You know, birthdays, not really, that's it.
22:54Like, not really much.
22:55Just be there so they know who you are.
22:57Right.
22:58That's it.
22:58And why is that important?
23:00I mean, it comes up quite a bit, knowing who the father is.
23:03Well, everyone deserves to know their genetic other half.
23:07Right.
23:07Whether you came from two moms, two dads, or a mom and dad.
23:10Sometimes those stories and stuff like that is hidden.
23:12So I feel like having someone that's willing to share information, it works out in that other person's favor.
23:20It also helps them, you know, when they get older, where identity reasons, you know, you want to know who
23:25you are.
23:26So why Ari?
23:27He's in there.
23:28You can tell me the truth now.
23:29Why Ari?
23:29It's the eyes.
23:30It's the eyes.
23:31Is it the eyes?
23:32The eyes is good.
23:33And I think also the fact that he's a professor.
23:37I'm also a teacher, so we kind of try to look for some things in me that's confined to someone
23:42else besides conflection.
23:43And do you mind now he and potential child will have like 164, or in this case, 165 siblings?
23:57What do you think about that?
24:00It was a thought.
24:02Because, like, you really will never know who your sibling might be out in this world, because he did donate
24:07all over the world, basically.
24:09But, dang, that's a great question.
24:14Well, when it comes to Ari and his situation, it's a little different, because you never know who you're dating,
24:19like she said.
24:20So you can, I mean, have siblings and just date your sibling without knowing.
24:24I think that was the concern, the main concern.
24:28But aside from that, because he's a known donor, he does have, you know, that pod of families that is
24:34willing to get to know each other.
24:36So I think that kind of limited the, you know, the idea of our kids may date.
24:42Okay.
24:43All done.
24:44All done.
24:56Ooh, shmudo.
25:08Without, you don't have to get overly detailed, but how was that?
25:12Fast and simple, just like him.
25:15I know what I'm getting you for your wedding present.
25:18What is it?
25:19Hopefully you've already given it.
25:21Should I give away the surprise?
25:22Yeah.
25:23It's a baby.
25:24Oh, sorry to ruin the surprise for you.
25:32As my time with Ari drew to a close, I couldn't help but wonder what his father thought about all
25:37this.
25:39Perhaps he knows why Ari has so many children.
25:43He's my middle child.
25:45He's sandwiched in between my twins, who are adorable.
25:49I don't know if you can get a picture of them.
25:52Oh, here they are.
25:53This is when they graduate of college.
25:55I noticed you're showing me all the photos of your other kids.
25:59Yeah, yeah, exactly.
26:00You can tell who the favorite is.
26:02What's happening here?
26:02I showed you.
26:04Here he is.
26:04We're not filming them.
26:05Oh, there I am.
26:05We're in the middle.
26:06So how many grandkids do you have?
26:08Without Ari?
26:09Without Ari.
26:10You know.
26:1128.
26:1228.
26:12How many with Ari?
26:13With Ari, well, Ari, what's the number?
26:15With the ones on the way, we crack 200.
26:17In the next nine months, we'll hit 200.
26:19We'll crack 200.
26:21Are they all yours?
26:22Yeah.
26:23All these are yours?
26:24Yeah.
26:25These are all mine.
26:26Of course they're all mine.
26:27Are we still really acting surprised?
26:29My parents were married for 56 years.
26:32My mom died around two months ago.
26:33So I think they wanted me to live a similar lifestyle to them.
26:39More traditional.
26:40I have four brothers, two sisters.
26:41They're all married with children in very traditional families.
26:44I'm not happy with all this.
26:46I'm not happy with that, no.
26:48My wife couldn't be like everybody else.
26:49I'm very traditional.
26:52Was your wife proud of Ari?
26:54No.
26:55Not that this...
26:56I think ashamed would be a better word.
26:57Ashamed, yeah.
26:58Yeah.
26:58That's not easy to deal with, is it?
27:01Yeah, it made me sad.
27:03I wasn't doing it to...
27:05To hurt her.
27:05To hurt her, exactly.
27:07So, Hashi, the question I've been struggling with the whole time, and maybe you can answer
27:11it, is I keep asking Ari why.
27:15Why do you think he's doing it?
27:17Take a guess.
27:18He's my middle child.
27:20He needs the attention.
27:21That's my guess.
27:23I somehow blamed myself, because I didn't give him the attention that he needed.
27:31I gave him all the same, but I didn't give him...
27:34He needed more.
27:36Rightfully so.
27:37So, somehow, you forgive me?
27:39Do you forgive me?
27:41Well, I don't know about that.
27:44Play, go, play, go, play, go!
27:49One, two, three, four, five, six.
27:56Before we left, Ari invited me to a birthday party.
28:03Like everything else in his life, it was chaotic and colourful.
28:07It's worth pointing out that all these children are his.
28:10I have a birthday tomorrow.
28:12I'm gonna watch him.
28:14I have a birthday Wednesday.
28:17Let's see another trick.
28:19I have a birthday Saturday.
28:20All right, let's cut it.
28:24That's just this week, and that's every week I have around three birthdays.
28:32Because I think as these kids get older, they're all gonna have their own opinions, you know,
28:39about how they feel.
28:43You know, it's something I struggle with, because I'm not their father in every sense
28:47of the word, but I'm doing the best I can.
28:50Any father's better than no father.
28:52He wants to go on the trampoline.
28:55I believe Ari's intentions, at least in the beginning, were genuine, to help others.
29:00But now, being a super donor has become part of his identity, his brand.
29:04He's teething a little bit, so that's why he's drooling so much.
29:07But for the women involved, it's not about numbers or reputation.
29:10It's about the right to have a family.
29:13Maybe the end does justify the means.
29:17I hope the children feel the same way when they get older.
29:29Next time, I'm wine.
29:30Todd, can you hear me?
29:32It's creepy, but I can hear you.
29:33Yeah.
29:34Going hot on the range.
29:38Doomsday Purpose.
29:40We are planning or preparing for anything that would change our life as we know it.
29:46Ready to go.
29:48Contact.
29:48Contact.
29:49AR-10-308.
29:52This is where we make all the bunkers.
29:54Oh, wow.
29:55It's like an apartment.
29:56Who have you done bunkers for?
29:58Zuckerberg.
29:59Kardashians.
30:00How many does Bill Gates have?
30:01He's got 11.
30:01He's got 11 bunkers.
30:03It's pretty loud.
30:04Everyone to defensive positions.
30:06Driver, turn off your engine.
30:09The virus has gotten out.
30:10The zombie apocalypse is really bad.
30:12Stand down.
30:13It's only a zombie apocalypse.
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