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00:00You moved it into your aunt's house.
00:02The bill was due.
00:03She hadn't paid.
00:05All my stuff was gone.
00:06She's giving away my things.
00:08Never.
00:09She was wearing my clothes and posting them on Facebook.
00:13You don't actually look like you're the same size.
00:16Exactly.
00:17This is Judy Justice.
00:37Kaya Robinson is suing her aunt, Michelle Thomas, for stolen property, lost wages, and emotional
00:45distress.
00:47Court come to order.
00:48All rise.
00:51Have a seat, please.
00:54Judge case 4078, Robinson versus Thomas.
00:58You're welcome.
00:59Ms. Robinson, the defendant is your aunt.
01:02Yes, Your Honor.
01:03And I understand, reading through the lines in your complaint, that your aunt is one of
01:10the few relatives that when you're growing up years, in your young adulthood, who's been
01:15nice to you.
01:16She was like a second mother to me, Your Honor.
01:18Right.
01:19And how old are you?
01:2022, Your Honor.
01:21Like a second mother.
01:23You went to college.
01:23That didn't work out.
01:25Yes, Your Honor.
01:25Right.
01:26She helped you with that when you left college.
01:29You moved in with her?
01:30I enlisted in the military and she wanted me to live with her, Your Honor.
01:33Just a second.
01:34Oh, yes, Your Honor.
01:34Before you enlisted in the military, you went to college.
01:37Which college?
01:38Georgia Gwinnett College.
01:39How long did you go?
01:40For two years.
01:42Did you flunk out or did you leave?
01:44I left, Your Honor.
01:45Why?
01:46To join the military so they can fund me.
01:48Okay.
01:48You went right from the dorm to the military?
01:52Yes, Your Honor.
01:53You went from the dorm to her house?
01:55Oh, yes, Your Honor.
01:56Right.
01:57So what month and year did you leave school?
02:01December 2022.
02:02And you moved right into your aunt's house?
02:05Yes, ma'am.
02:06How long did you live with her?
02:07I stayed until April of 2023, so four months.
02:11Were you working?
02:12Yes, Your Honor.
02:12Paying rent?
02:13No, Your Honor.
02:14So you were there as a guest?
02:16Yes, ma'am.
02:16Now, you went into the military in April of 2023, and it is your claim that you left some
02:24property at her house, and that's the property that you want, and it's worth, according to
02:29you, $10,000, the property, a lot of other stuff, theft, emotional distress.
02:36So why don't you tell me, now you're in the army, your aunt's taking care of you.
02:41There's an overtone here about your aunt was living with your uncle, her husband at the
02:46time.
02:46This is your mother's sister.
02:47You're no longer married.
02:49No.
02:49There's some intimation that there was some involvement by you that resulted in your aunt's
02:56divorce.
02:56Mm-hmm.
02:57But she and her husband did, in fact, divorce and sold the house that you had been a guest
03:03in.
03:04Yes, Your Honor.
03:04Is that correct?
03:05They no longer have the house, and you were out of the house in what month and year?
03:09Um, it was, we sold the house August of 2024.
03:14And you were notified that the house was being sold, and you were notified in what month,
03:20Ms. Robinson?
03:22I help you, June.
03:24Yes, Your Honor, June.
03:25And between June, when you were notified that the house was being sold, and the time in August,
03:30when you said you wanted to come for your things, do you have any communication with your aunt,
03:36telling her what items was there?
03:38I'd like to see what you have.
03:40And then we're going to list what items you think she took or stole.
03:44So, Your Honor, what I have is...
03:47Listen to me carefully.
03:49I asked you for a text, an email, between June, when you were told that the house was
03:56being sold, and I assume that you were told the house was being sold, and any stuff that
04:02was there, you should come and get.
04:03Per my uncle, yes, Your Honor.
04:05Per your uncle.
04:06Well, do you have any communication from him?
04:08Yes, Your Honor.
04:09I have text messages with me being in communication with my aunt.
04:13Okay.
04:13And then I have my uncle, too.
04:15Shh, just a second.
04:15And her just, like, completely ignoring me.
04:18Shh.
04:20I have an August 18th that you notified her.
04:24Mm-hmm.
04:24That, good afternoon, Auntie, I'm in town.
04:26I want you to get all my belongings today.
04:28I apologize if I caused you any pain.
04:31We wish you the best and hope we can get you resolved.
04:33What kind of pain did you cause your auntie?
04:35I haven't caused her any pain, Your Honor.
04:37I was just saying that to make amends with her, just in case she was upset with me.
04:41And why would she be upset with you?
04:43She just feels like I didn't send her any money.
04:46And that's where our relationship kind of deteriorated.
04:51This is in August.
04:52What I'm asking you is between June and August.
04:57So is what you're telling me that you had no communication with her when...
05:02And you show me a bunch of perfume bottles.
05:03You had no communication with her in the month of June or the month of July or anything until August
05:1018th?
05:11Yes, Your Honor.
05:11Okay.
05:12I also have evidence with my uncle, because that's the main person I was in communication with.
05:24Your uncle says to you, your luggage and bags are still under the crawl space.
05:28When I get off from work, I'll go through it or FaceTime you.
05:31Love to talk to you later.
05:32This tells me that you had a communication with your uncle.
05:35What does that have to do with her?
05:37Because my items are missing, Your Honor.
05:39What does that have to do with her?
05:40I'm asking you.
05:41Okay.
05:41Communication with her.
05:43Well, I ended up going on Facebook.
05:44She had blocked me, but I started seeing her posting pictures in my clothes when I had left for boot
05:50camp.
05:51And then my uncle has also sent me pictures of all my perfumes on her dresser that she was using
05:56as well.
05:57You found out that they were moving in June.
05:59So the answer is you have no communication with your aunt telling her anything.
06:03The only communication you have is with your uncle, who says that you have two suitcases in the crawl space.
06:10That's all it says.
06:11I'd like to clarify.
06:12So when I had left for boot camp, and then I went to training school, I was not allowed to
06:17bring all of my belongings.
06:19So it had been communicated between her, my uncle, and my cousin that I would come back for my stuff.
06:25No, I don't want you to tell me anything that communicated with your uncle, who's not here, or your cousin.
06:31Okay.
06:34She opened up my suitcases and was going through my things.
06:38Okay.
06:38And this is the only one that you have of her with wearing what you allege is your clothes.
06:43Correct?
06:44Yes, Your Honor.
06:46Where'd you get this?
06:56Kaya Robinson claims her aunt, Michelle Thomas, is wrongfully keeping her belongings after she went away for military training.
07:06Now, what direct communication did you have with your aunt?
07:10I see you had a lot of communication with your uncle, but I don't see communication with your aunt.
07:15Well, we weren't on speaking terms at that point in time, but...
07:18Fine.
07:19So you weren't on speaking terms, and was that over something that had to do with your uncle?
07:23No, Your Honor.
07:24What was it about?
07:25Because she was nice to you up to a point.
07:28So this had actually started happening when I was in training school.
07:32When I was in boot camp, I was awarded a bonus of $10,000.
07:35So you got $10,000 just for joining up?
07:39Yes, Your Honor.
07:39And that was in what month?
07:41I received the payment in...
07:43April.
07:44No, I got it after I was in boot camp, so...
07:46Maybe in June?
07:47Yes, Your Honor.
07:48Okay.
07:48So you were already out of the house?
07:50Yes, Your Honor.
07:51So in June 2023, you received $10,000.
07:54What did you do with it?
07:55I spent about $4,000 on personal items, and then I had also given her money.
08:00She had asked for me to send her $400.
08:03For what?
08:04She was trauma dumping on me about her marriage, and she asked of me to help her pay some of
08:09the bills,
08:10in which I sent her that same day that she asked.
08:13Yes.
08:13Okay.
08:14So you sent her $400 of the $10,000.
08:16That was in June after you were already out of the house?
08:19Yes, Your Honor.
08:20Okay.
08:21You spent $4,000.
08:22When you spent the $4,000, what did you spend it on?
08:26You certainly weren't living at her house at the time, so it wasn't being delivered to
08:31her house.
08:32Some things were, Your Honor.
08:33Like what?
08:33Because right now, all I know is you had two suitcases and a bunch of perfume bottles.
08:37What did you buy after June when you got this money that you had sent to your aunt's house?
08:44Clothes and purses.
08:47Okay.
08:47And do you acknowledge that after she went into the military, she sent clothes and purses
08:53that she bought to your house?
08:56Never.
08:57Okay.
08:57So now I would like to see receipts that you have of clothes and purses that you had
09:04delivered to your aunt's house.
09:07So I don't have proof that it was sent to that dress, but I do have proof of purchase.
09:12She says you never sent anything to the house after June.
09:16I did, Your Honor.
09:17Well, when did you start having difficulty with your aunt over a problem, she says, that
09:22involved her former husband?
09:24In what month?
09:25There was no problems that I had with my uncle.
09:28The problem that happened for us to stop communicating is when I stopped sending her money.
09:34Well, you only sent her $400 is what you told me so far.
09:38But she kept asking for money afterwards.
09:40Okay.
09:40But you only sent her $400.
09:42Yes, ma'am.
09:43And the reason you say that you got into a kerfuffle with your aunt is because you didn't
09:46send her any more money.
09:47What I'm trying to find out is when did this communication stop between you and your aunt,
09:54who was previously good to you?
09:56So this was July.
09:58I'll just give it to you.
10:00July 8th.
10:01She asked me to help pay the phone bill.
10:09Is she asking you to help pay part of the phone bill because you used the service?
10:14I paid my half of the phone bill.
10:16But she wanted me to pay for her not paying her own phone bill.
10:21How much was your part of the bill?
10:23$70.
10:24Is that right?
10:25It was like $75.
10:26Okay.
10:27So it was $70.
10:28And the whole bill was $429.
10:30Yes.
10:31So why should she pay everybody else's bill?
10:33She shouldn't.
10:34I never asked her to pay everyone else's bill.
10:37The bill was due.
10:38She hadn't paid the month prior.
10:41And I don't know which one.
10:43I do have evidence where I was telling her that the phones would be disconnected
10:47if she did not pay her portion of the bill.
10:49How much is it?
10:50I really thought you meant for my line.
10:51I really can't pay $400.
10:54I don't have half of the bill money I would ask.
10:56No.
10:57You were asking because you were pressed for money.
10:59Yes.
10:59You were pressed for money.
11:00And this wasn't just for her piece of the bill.
11:02Okay.
11:03Well, that was on July 8th.
11:05So now I want you to tell me what property you believe your aunt has that belongs to you.
11:14Everything I've ever owned.
11:16No.
11:17Sorry.
11:17The suitcases you were dealing with with your uncle.
11:20And it looked to me from the communication with your uncle that your uncle said what you
11:25have here are two suitcases that are in the crawl space and the perfume bottles.
11:31But that's not an answer.
11:32Everything that I own.
11:33Forget the two suitcases.
11:34What specific item or items can you identify that you believe she has that belong to you?
11:46Tell me.
11:47My clothes.
11:48That's sorry.
11:49I can't help you with that.
11:50But she was the one that was wearing my clothes and posting them on Facebook.
11:54She opened up my suitcases and was going through my things.
11:57Okay.
11:57Can I see the photograph?
11:59Yes, Your Honor.
12:10Anything else other than this Lululemon sweatsuit?
12:13Yes, Your Honor.
12:13Well, just tell me.
12:15Do you have any other photographs of her wearing what you say are your things?
12:19Yes, Your Honor.
12:20Well, show me.
12:21What I have here is just a comp of those items that were in that picture as well.
12:27And I have pictures of me also having that.
12:30That just goes to show that she had my stuff.
12:33No, this shows that she's wearing this black outfit.
12:36And she went through my stuff.
12:38And this is the only one that you have of her wearing what you allege is your clothes.
12:43Correct?
12:44Yes, Your Honor.
12:45Where'd you get this?
12:46That is mine.
12:47I bought it from Lululemon.
12:49I have a jacket with it and everything.
12:52Kaya, when she came to live with me, I gave her a lot of clothes.
12:56I bought her clothes.
12:58Paid her phone bill for two years without asking her for a dime back.
13:03Are you telling me that you purchased this?
13:05Yes.
13:06That is my outfit.
13:07I have the jacket with it and everything.
13:09You don't actually look like you're the same size.
13:11Exactly.
13:12We are not the same size, but those are leggings.
13:15She can stretch in those leggings.
13:17And those are mine.
13:18And I have proof of purchase of that as well.
13:20She did not buy those leggings.
13:23Ms. Robinson, I don't know what's tickled you, but just curious.
13:29Did your aunt take you shopping?
13:30No, Your Honor.
13:31Did she put you on her phone plan?
13:34My uncle did.
13:35That's his phone plan that I was responsible for taking.
13:37Just a second.
13:38At that time, they were a couple.
13:40So they put you on their phone plan.
13:43Yes, Your Honor.
13:44Is that because you did or didn't have a phone?
13:46I did not have a phone at the time.
13:48Okay.
13:49It just sounds to me like they were nice to you.
13:54Absolutely.
13:55Okay.
13:55Well, then I don't understand this lawsuit, quite frankly, over a Lululemon outfit.
13:59I don't understand that.
14:03This is from July.
14:05So first of all, this is after you left your aunt's house.
14:09Do you have any proof that you purchased thousands of dollars worth of perfume?
14:13The answer is either yes or no.
14:25Kaia Robinson has accused her aunt, Michelle Thomas, of stealing her property after Kaia
14:33left for military training.
14:35Okay.
14:35I don't understand why if your uncle said he had your two suitcases and you were clearly
14:40in touch with him, why didn't you make arrangements with your uncle to get your two suitcases?
14:43He wasn't in the house all the time because they were having marital issues.
14:48He was in the house long enough to know that your two suitcases were in the crawl space.
14:52You had a conversation with him about it.
14:54Yes, Your Honor.
14:54And then he also informed me that when he went down...
14:57You can't tell me what he informed you, madam.
14:59That's hearsay.
15:00No.
15:00My suitcases were stuffed with pillows.
15:02He opened it.
15:03So all my stuff was gone.
15:05And then she posted something I have on her Facebook saying that she's giving away my things.
15:12Oh, I'd like to see that.
15:13This is her saying that she's giving away things.
15:26This doesn't say anything about you.
15:28It says that she was giving away clothing.
15:30She says she was giving away...
15:33Come on.
15:34I am seeking individuals or organizations in need of high quality household goods, clothing
15:40and shoes.
15:40All items are in excellent condition with some still bearing tags.
15:44Following my recent move and downsizing efforts, I've identified a surplus of unused items, many
15:50of which have remained for over five years.
15:53If you are affiliated with a...
15:55And you didn't live with your aunt for five years.
15:57If you are affiliated with a church or know of individuals in need, please contact me.
16:03I'm offering these items free of charge.
16:06And kindly request that interested parties reach out for a private messenger.
16:10It says nothing about your stuff.
16:11It said clothing items.
16:13When I had graduated training school, I took a two-week point of leave where I was traveling.
16:20I went to go visit family back at home.
16:21Within that time period, with that money that was granted to me from the bonus, I bought,
16:27like I said, purses, clothes that I didn't even wear because I was traveling and I wasn't
16:33at home all the time.
16:34They made it very clear to me that that was my home too and that I could leave my things
16:38there.
16:39I know that I don't have a lot of evidence showing that, okay, these were all the items
16:46that I had.
16:46But that picture of her wearing my leggings and then all my perfumes that I have proof
16:52that I had purchased myself and me holding them as well.
16:56I don't care.
16:56That she was using.
16:57I don't care about the perfume trade, madam.
16:58I understand.
16:59But that was worth thousands of dollars.
17:01Well, I'm going to tell you, Ms. Robinson, I'm not buying that because when you went there,
17:07you really didn't have money.
17:08You got $10,000, but that was after you left your aunt's house.
17:13So is what you're telling me, that you bought thousands of dollars of perfume and had it
17:17sent to the house after you were in the military?
17:19No, Your Honor.
17:20No.
17:20So you have me believe that you purchased thousands of dollars worth of perfume because
17:27you said perfume is thousands of dollars worth of perfume.
17:30Over time, yes.
17:31When I got my college refunds, I bought perfume.
17:34I have proof of that right here in my bake statements.
17:38I don't have every single last receipt for it.
17:42Ms. Robinson, I suggest you get over it.
17:44Did you keep any of the $10,000 or did you spend it all?
17:47I spent it all.
17:49Spent it all.
17:49Am I able to show you the proof of purchase here?
17:52Of course.
17:53Give it to me.
18:05What are you saying?
18:06A debit card?
18:07You bought an Apple something?
18:08You bought something from Marc Jacobs in July?
18:11I don't know what you're showing me.
18:13This is from July of 2023.
18:16So first of all, this is after you left your aunt's house.
18:20What I asked you was, do you have any proof that you purchased thousands of dollars worth
18:25of perfume?
18:26The answer is either yes or no.
18:28No.
18:29Okay.
18:29I think you have to move on, Ms. Robinson.
18:32Whatever it was that caused the friction between you and your aunt, who seems to me nothing
18:37but supportive of you for your lifetime until something happened.
18:41Not exactly sure what it was, but when you allege that somebody has property that belongs
18:48to you, you have to have proof.
18:49You don't have any proof.
18:50The only proof you have is a communication with your uncle that he says you have two suitcases
18:56in the house in the crawl space.
18:58The house is no longer there.
18:59And there's nothing in the communication that you've shown me that you say to your uncle,
19:03would you take those out and I'll come and buy and pick them up tomorrow or the next day?
19:08I don't have that.
19:10And if I had it, then I would still say to you, you have the wrong defendant.
19:14Can you elaborate when you say I have the wrong defendant?
19:17Because my uncle wasn't accountable for my items.
19:21They moved together.
19:22When you left, they were a married couple.
19:24Your communication about your property was with your uncle, not your aunt.
19:28And he acknowledged to you that he knew that there were two suitcases of yours in the crawl space.
19:35That's the only proof that you have with regard to your property.
19:38Because she blocked me, Your Honor.
19:39OK, goodbye.
19:40We're finished.
19:40This case is dismissed.
19:42Still in the military?
19:43Yes, Your Honor.
19:43Thank you for your service.
19:45You've got to grow up.
19:46This court is adjourned.
19:52I'm happy with the decision, but also I'm sad because that's my niece.
19:57I know that I didn't have solidified evidence of every single thing that I had there,
20:02but my aunt knows good and darn well that she had my stuff.
20:06I never had a falling out with her.
20:09I don't understand why she did this.
20:11I believe she did this in retaliation because I wouldn't send her any more money.
20:15She blocked me.
20:16Kaya was like my kid, and I did everything for her.
20:20Due to the judgment, I hope that I never hear from her again.
20:26You know, when we're here and we stay together when we're working, I live nice and rent-free with you,
20:32but I've smelled you coming out of my room smelling just like me a couple times.
20:36I've never sued you over using my perfumes or potions or lotions.
20:39So I think it's a fair even trade.
20:42Her aunt and uncle seemed to really care about her, but clearly something was not right there between the aunt
20:48and uncle,
20:49but still seemed to care about her, had her on their phone plan, got her a phone.
20:52I think the papers also indicated that she lived with them when she was little for about four years.
20:59Yeah, for a while.
21:00All of these.
21:00So it seemed to be a good relationship.
21:02So I can't imagine, again, I would feel like me coming to sue you for stealing a perfume or two
21:08of mine.
21:08I would be very, that would not be a good, I would not be your best, your best move.
21:13Yeah, I mean, you just have to look at it as a whole picture.
21:16The problem is she ran through her money.
21:18True.
21:19Pretty girl, and I'm glad she's in the military.
21:22That was an interesting, I didn't know that you got a signing bonus of $10,000 to join the military.
21:28That's interesting.
21:29Used to be a privilege.
21:32Are you having a family dispute?
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