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00:00:01Previously...
00:00:01Tim, you've got to remember, bro, this is a marriage experiment,
00:00:04not a friendship experiment, man.
00:00:05Jayden's unsolicited feedback...
00:00:08I don't need advice from you.
00:00:09Comparing our marriages, bro, you do.
00:00:11...left a bad taste in Timothy's mouth.
00:00:14Old friggin' Fabio jumped in.
00:00:16Like, honestly, I'm so pissed off.
00:00:19And when Ben was given seven days to turn his marriage around...
00:00:23That is you being put on notice.
00:00:25He wrote a list outlining what he didn't like about Ellie.
00:00:30He didn't like that I applied makeup.
00:00:32He didn't like that I was sensitive or emotional.
00:00:35It's just so hurtful.
00:00:36Then the next phase of the experiment...
00:00:40...saw our original couples get feedback
00:00:43from their families and friends.
00:00:45Do you need to relax?
00:00:47And some did not hold back.
00:00:50It's a break, I can't, you know...
00:00:52It's boring.
00:00:53It could be a one-night stand, but just try it.
00:00:56Put a muzzle on it.
00:00:57I mean, it's not the 1950s.
00:01:00And an intense crash course...
00:01:03...deepened bonds for our most recent newlyweds.
00:01:06I strongly believe that was a breakthrough moment for him
00:01:09and for our relationship moving forward.
00:01:11I'm not going anywhere, okay?
00:01:16Tonight...
00:01:17There's three things in life.
00:01:19Boys want attention, men want respect,
00:01:21and legends don't give us.
00:01:24It's the fourth dinner party of the experiment.
00:01:28I've got an issue with anyone under 30 giving me advice.
00:01:31Where the young lion...
00:01:33When things get heated, you know, the pressure's on.
00:01:35That's when I work best.
00:01:36And the old bull...
00:01:38You're a grandstander.
00:01:39You have been since day one.
00:01:40No, no, mate.
00:01:41...lock horns.
00:01:42That's why I'm asking the question.
00:01:44You've always been a grandstander.
00:01:46Oh!
00:01:48And as sparks fly for some...
00:01:51Love that.
00:01:52Sorry, you just said, don't tell me what I said.
00:01:54I know what I said.
00:01:55It came out of my mouth.
00:01:57Surprising new rivalries will form.
00:02:00Don't tell me what I said.
00:02:01Don't come for the top.
00:02:03I'm sorry.
00:02:03There's a food chain here and you are not at the top.
00:02:07Shut up.
00:02:08Before Ben...
00:02:09The truth is...
00:02:12What?
00:02:13Drops an almighty bombshell.
00:02:16Look at Ellie.
00:02:17She's completely blindsided.
00:02:41It's the morning of the dinner party, and Ben is waking up in a separate apartment after
00:02:46an explosive argument erupted last night, while reading Ellie a list of issues in their relationship.
00:02:54Ben listed everything that he has not enjoyed about me.
00:02:59He didn't like that I applied makeup.
00:03:03He didn't like the fact that I was 32 and he's 39.
00:03:07He doesn't like that I'm from the Gold Coast.
00:03:10He didn't like that I was sensitive or emotional.
00:03:13And he would also like good conversation from me.
00:03:16Apparently he's not getting good conversation.
00:03:21But Ben has woken up this morning with a new perspective on the future of his relationship.
00:03:28Last night we had time apart.
00:03:30I did miss him in that time.
00:03:33This week we had disagreements.
00:03:35But that list, that was a small thing, got blown out of proportion.
00:03:38It was just thoughts and dot points to try and be constructive, not as criticism but as feedback.
00:03:44And maybe I didn't communicate that as well as I could have.
00:03:48And that's all it was.
00:03:51But I want to try to re-engage the connection we have.
00:03:56I'm doing everything I can that I can think of to try and make others happy again, great again.
00:04:03I wrote her a song.
00:04:06I've been unaware of my f***ed up behaviours.
00:04:15I made like a little package up and sent it to her.
00:04:19I want to try and tap in some of those vibes and those memories and try and rekindle some of
00:04:24the magic that we have.
00:04:26Do you still have feelings for Ellie?
00:04:28Yeah, I do.
00:04:30Yeah, I do.
00:04:34I still want this relationship.
00:04:38I got a package.
00:04:40It was photos from our wedding and a letter written to me with a photo of the aisle we walked
00:04:46down on Maroobra Beach.
00:04:48It said, hi Ellie, I remember that spark when we first met.
00:04:54I will be going to Maroobra Beach to walk down this aisle and revisit one of the best days of
00:04:59my life.
00:05:01And it would be amazing if you came, but understand if you don't want to join me.
00:05:05I'm feeling for you as I know how much stress and hurt you're going through.
00:05:10I just want you to be happy, Ben, with a love heart.
00:05:18I don't know what to think.
00:05:19Being in a relationship with Ben is like trying to solve a riddle.
00:05:25We ended on such a horrible note the other night.
00:05:29It was just so many excuses about why he is the way he is with me.
00:05:36He's tried to reach out and then sent me this gift.
00:05:39I feel like he's showing me that he wants to make it work, but I just don't know how we
00:05:45move forward from this.
00:05:47I feel like I don't know his true intentions and what he wants in a relationship.
00:05:53As Ellie contemplates Ben's latest peace offering, the rest of the couples are getting ready for tonight's fourth dinner party.
00:06:01Dinner party fall.
00:06:02Looking good.
00:06:03I reckon not as good as you, honey.
00:06:09Missing my socks, by the way.
00:06:10What are they?
00:06:11A little French Bulldogs.
00:06:12They're cuties.
00:06:13This is how I roll.
00:06:15I'm so not sexy.
00:06:17Looking good.
00:06:18Hot green.
00:06:19You look nice.
00:06:20I know.
00:06:21Are you feeling?
00:06:23Well, I'm excited to walk in there with you as usual.
00:06:26Remember, if you're uncomfortable at all, come find me.
00:06:28Mm-hmm.
00:06:29Uncle Redra saw you.
00:06:31This week has seen our couples grow closer together as Sarah and Tim continue to strengthen their connection after meeting
00:06:39each other's family and friends.
00:06:41Oh, damn.
00:06:42Oh, damn.
00:06:44Hello.
00:06:45We look good.
00:06:46We feel good.
00:06:47We're, like, finally feeling like we're actually a couple.
00:06:50It's going to be a good one, I think.
00:06:52I think so, too, yeah.
00:06:53Good one for us.
00:06:54Yeah.
00:06:56All that matters right now.
00:06:57That's all that matters, yeah, exactly.
00:06:59Friends and Family Week, that was really good.
00:07:02Sarah's becoming more affectionate, and she's opening up to me.
00:07:05Oh, you look so good.
00:07:08We have great sexual chemistry.
00:07:10We'll definitely be best dressed.
00:07:12We'll be.
00:07:13We always are.
00:07:14Why do we not?
00:07:15It feels like it's basically the best that we have been this whole time, so that's pretty nice.
00:07:22Down the hall, another couple reaping the rewards of Family and Friends Week are Lucinda and Timothy, after Lucinda's dad
00:07:30gave Timothy some hard truths.
00:07:34Wow, you are a brick, aren't you?
00:07:37You're a wall.
00:07:38You can't jump over that wall, can you?
00:07:40It's just a tough one.
00:07:42It's a high ball, it's a brick, I can't, you know, blah, blah, blah, you know.
00:07:45It's boring.
00:07:48Yeah.
00:07:51You know, and I'm getting pissed off listening about that, you know what I mean?
00:07:55So, you know.
00:07:57From my point of view, you need to sort of not get your tits in a tangle, maybe sometimes, and
00:08:05put your finger out.
00:08:09Lucinda's dad was really good, he had a lot of really good points and he made us sort of think
00:08:14different ways.
00:08:15We came back from that just in a really good place.
00:08:19That attraction has grown.
00:08:21You know what?
00:08:21We're going in tonight in the best possible place that we've been in since we've started this.
00:08:27But unfortunately for Timothy, his behaviour at the last commitment ceremony.
00:08:33Do you believe it's possible to fall in love with Lucinda?
00:08:36Yeah, I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced.
00:08:38Why are you throwing me under the bus?
00:08:40I know.
00:08:40Has caught the attention of another groom in the experiment.
00:08:44Yeah, Tim, you've got to remember, bro, this is, at the end of the day, this is a marriage experiment,
00:08:48not a friendship experiment, man.
00:08:49Yeah, I get it and I don't need advice from you.
00:09:01I do think there might be a little war between you and Timothy.
00:09:05Yeah, could possibly be.
00:09:07I think that might happen.
00:09:10I don't like it when he gets on the couch and he's like, I don't need your advice.
00:09:13I might be the youngest one here, but I think maybe he probably could use my advice.
00:09:18But all I know is that he's actually immature and it creates drama.
00:09:22Everything that I do in my life, whether it's fighting, my whole life is confrontation.
00:09:29I started Muay Thai kickboxing when I was 13.
00:09:32My life is just training twice a day, every day.
00:09:35And I don't back down from a fight.
00:09:37I think Tim is treating Lucinda the wrong way, he's talking to her not nice.
00:09:41You know, I can't keep putting up with it.
00:09:43Something needs to be said.
00:09:45One thing I was annoyed about is obviously I heard Timothy making these comments to Lucinda.
00:09:50Off you go.
00:09:51Off you go.
00:09:51Let's see a different couple next week.
00:09:53Have a great week.
00:09:55Have a great week.
00:09:58Are you alright?
00:10:00Don't talk to me.
00:10:02Don't talk to me.
00:10:05Don't talk to me.
00:10:09And, yeah, I feel very strongly about, I guess, that particular relationship.
00:10:14Not only because of the things that Tim's done and the comments he's made to me personally,
00:10:18but I, you know, I vibe with Lucinda.
00:10:22Yeah, I don't know.
00:10:22I just want to tell him.
00:10:23I was like, man, what are you doing?
00:10:24You're wasting her time.
00:10:25Facts is, you're not putting any effort into your marriage.
00:10:29And Paul Lucinda, she's trying.
00:10:31She's putting up with you.
00:10:32I really like her.
00:10:33I just don't like to see a girl like that get her time wasted.
00:10:37I definitely think that he's not the biggest fan of you.
00:10:40I could not care less.
00:10:41I think it might explode.
00:10:43Look, I'm not going to instigate it, but if it comes up, then yeah.
00:10:46I think if he throws one more comment at you.
00:10:48Yeah.
00:10:49That's the end.
00:10:50Jayden isn't the only one still stewing over the events of the last commitment ceremony.
00:10:55When I was up on the couch last week, Jayden didn't have a lot to say,
00:10:58but I don't need words from the peanut gallery.
00:11:01When you were sitting there flicking your hair back like Fabio,
00:11:05talking about how good you are,
00:11:06I actually didn't say anything, even though I thought you were full of shit.
00:11:10I just don't want kids under 30 calling me out about relationships or life.
00:11:18I just think they should zip it.
00:11:20If Jayden wants to come at me, he can say what he wants to say.
00:11:25It doesn't bother me.
00:11:27And do a couple of buttons up.
00:11:29Jesus Christ.
00:11:30That's what they were on the shirt for.
00:11:32Don't tell anybody, but I've gone commando.
00:11:36Okay, I definitely won't tell anyone.
00:11:39Come on, let's get out of here.
00:11:53So, dinner party number four.
00:11:55We have our new couples who've been fast tracking all week long.
00:12:00And our original couples doing the meet the parents week.
00:12:03I cannot wait to see what happens tonight.
00:12:10Here we go.
00:12:14Bit of a different entry.
00:12:16Definitely.
00:12:16From last week.
00:12:17It's Steven and Michael.
00:12:19So much space for activity.
00:12:20How about we space out?
00:12:21Like, I'm just going to lay on this one.
00:12:23And you can lay on that one there.
00:12:25Very low key, but comfortable with one another, no?
00:12:28I'm excited to tell people where we are.
00:12:30Definitely. It's been a really good week.
00:12:32Yeah, it has been. It's been a great week.
00:12:35Excited for some company.
00:12:37Some company? Are you tired of my company already?
00:12:38It's been you and me for a long time, eh?
00:12:41Oh!
00:12:42Hello!
00:12:44Hello!
00:12:44Hello, y'all.
00:12:45Sarah and Tim.
00:12:47Hey.
00:12:48How are you?
00:12:48Good to see you.
00:12:50Walking strong and together.
00:12:52Definitely look like a couple.
00:12:54Mm-hmm.
00:12:55How are you going?
00:12:57I think we're going really well now.
00:12:59I feel like when we started having, like, dates and stuff
00:13:02was when we actually, like...
00:13:05Started connecting.
00:13:06Yeah.
00:13:07It's weird.
00:13:08I'm, like, I look at him and I'm, like, ooh.
00:13:10And I think it happened from spending, like, more quality time
00:13:13and getting to that emotional, deeper level.
00:13:16It's good.
00:13:23You excited?
00:13:25Yeah.
00:13:25So, like, obviously, last kind of party for us was a blowout.
00:13:30Speaking of Jack and Tori, I feel like that issue is just so...
00:13:33It's just, like, flogging a dead horse at this point.
00:13:36When he said the muzzle comment, it was horrible and nasty.
00:13:39But I'm happy to dead the issue.
00:13:43How much further can we go there?
00:13:45You can't.
00:13:46It's definitely been done.
00:13:48Woo!
00:13:48Hello!
00:13:50Pretty incredible.
00:13:52Lauren and Jono.
00:13:54We love you.
00:13:55We do.
00:13:56I love this for us.
00:13:57Maybe we should couple swap.
00:13:58Yeah.
00:14:00Cheers.
00:14:00Cheers.
00:14:02They seem a little bit closer.
00:14:04Of course, on the commitment ceremony couch last week,
00:14:07things were incredibly tense with these two.
00:14:10The dinner party last time, Lauren was in a really sticky situation.
00:14:15And Jono didn't go into bat for her.
00:14:17And she needed him to stand up.
00:14:19And he just didn't.
00:14:20He really let her down.
00:14:22Absolutely.
00:14:23How was your week?
00:14:24Yeah, we had a rough week.
00:14:26And, like, after the commitment ceremony was hard.
00:14:27But nothing's better now.
00:14:29We just chatted and broke everything down that had happened
00:14:32and they're feeling a lot better.
00:14:35This week, we worked through it.
00:14:37It was actually really good to come back together and put it behind us.
00:14:42Now, Jono and I can move forward.
00:14:44It's good that you're having the hard conversations.
00:14:46Yeah.
00:14:47There's no room in this experiment to hide from anything.
00:14:50Because, like, if you don't say it, someone else is going to say it probably.
00:14:53As we saw last week.
00:14:55Well, I'm going to take several seats tonight, okay?
00:15:00It's all around good vibes.
00:15:01Love that.
00:15:03I want no more drama tonight.
00:15:05I want to focus on us.
00:15:07Yeah, I agree with that.
00:15:08I feel like tonight I'm going to go up to Jack and be like,
00:15:11it's all good, you're safe, my truth.
00:15:12You're safe.
00:15:14I won't attack him or his man bun.
00:15:20I will chat with Lauren tonight.
00:15:21It was solely because I regret what I said last week.
00:15:26And see if we can come to a little bit of an understanding moving forward.
00:15:30That'll be great.
00:15:35Oh, hello.
00:15:36Hi.
00:15:38Tori and Jack.
00:15:39Oh.
00:15:40Very much together again.
00:15:42Very much together.
00:15:43Hey.
00:15:44It's nice to see you guys not at the very last.
00:15:46I know, right?
00:15:47I feel like we're going to have a smooth night.
00:15:48It's still daylight.
00:15:50Well, Jack last week was at the centre of the storm.
00:15:54Yeah.
00:15:54And when backed into a corner, he told Jono to muzzle his woman.
00:15:59You know, one of the big parts of tonight's dinner party is to see how Jack and Tori have been
00:16:05able to handle that really appalling moment last week.
00:16:09I don't think people appreciate that.
00:16:11Look, I was actually going to pull you through a chat.
00:16:12Let's just do it now.
00:16:13Yeah.
00:16:15I feel like we went into battle, as we did.
00:16:18Yeah.
00:16:18And yeah, I apologise again.
00:16:20The remark I made was disgusting.
00:16:21Yeah.
00:16:23Nothing bad than embarrassed for Tori.
00:16:25And I just see, like, I have three old assistants.
00:16:27Yeah.
00:16:28And I'm just, like, ashamed, because they're going to see that.
00:16:30Yeah.
00:16:31And they'll be so disappointed in me, my mother, my father.
00:16:35I can say I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but, like, it's so shit.
00:16:41It was a very rehearsed Jack-style apology, talking about the mother and the sister and the cousin and the
00:16:46dog's brother about how they will be disappointed.
00:16:51But, you know what, I'm willing to accept the apology because I don't want to keep going around in circles.
00:16:55And the thing is, I just know that he will continue to be how he is.
00:17:00And, like, later down the line, he's obviously going to f*** up again.
00:17:03I know you're sorry.
00:17:04Of course.
00:17:04Like, you said you got a short few years.
00:17:06I recognise that because I have a short few years.
00:17:08And I'm sorry for, um, yelling and going stupid.
00:17:12You snapped me and then there's my character and my dignity f***ing hanging out here.
00:17:16Yeah.
00:17:18You see, from where I was sitting, Lauren didn't snap him at all.
00:17:22I wanted you to have, like, inside as well.
00:17:24I'll still hang my hat.
00:17:25My message was, I want to hear from other people at the table.
00:17:33Yeah.
00:17:35What?
00:17:35And there it is.
00:17:36Blaming the women around him.
00:17:38That was my message.
00:17:39Lauren, we got in that argument.
00:17:41I did say muzzle you woman, but you were yelling at me.
00:17:45Yeah.
00:17:45Mm-hmm.
00:17:45Yep.
00:17:46And so that really tells us that Jack doesn't get it.
00:17:49And it hasn't landed.
00:17:50There's no real accountability.
00:17:51No, there's not.
00:17:51And he doesn't understand the inappropriateness of what he did.
00:17:55I'm happy to dead the issue and accept the apology and make peace.
00:18:00Try to do the big girl thing in this situation.
00:18:02And the thing is, I just have no doubt that something else will be brewing later down the line.
00:18:10I feel like you've got to expect the unexpected in the dinner parties.
00:18:14And there's no way nothing's going to go down because some of these people are unhinged.
00:18:19Yeah.
00:18:19Yep, that's for sure.
00:18:21Cheers, dolls.
00:18:22Cheers.
00:18:22Cheers.
00:18:24I'm not going to pick a fight, but if the fight's there, I'm going to put my two cents in.
00:18:27All right.
00:18:28It's about time someone put him in place, and unfortunately, it's going to have to be me.
00:18:37Oh, yeah.
00:18:39That's right.
00:18:41Oh, yeah.
00:18:50That's right.
00:18:51Look at this.
00:18:52Dangerous.
00:18:52Big entrance from these two.
00:18:54Oh, yes.
00:18:55Very strong, very together.
00:18:57Easy as, eh?
00:18:59Their energy is very much we are together.
00:19:02We are into one another.
00:19:03We have been progressing.
00:19:05You feel it.
00:19:08Oh!
00:19:10Oh!
00:19:12Oh!
00:19:13Tristan and Cassandra.
00:19:14Tristan and Cass.
00:19:16But you guys are in a stronger place now than what you were, I reckon, last week?
00:19:19Yeah.
00:19:19Yes.
00:19:19Okay, good.
00:19:21Oh!
00:19:23Love it!
00:19:24Love these two.
00:19:25Andy and Richie.
00:19:26I'm so hopeful for these guys.
00:19:30Good to see you.
00:19:32All right, what's the word on the street?
00:19:34I just had a good chat with Lauren, which is nice.
00:19:36I let her know, like, I appreciate, like, I wanted to battle with her.
00:19:39Nothing wrong with it.
00:19:40And I just apologise for the comment again.
00:19:42I think it's good that you have someone that will keep the group accountable, like her.
00:19:46Not everyone else can relate.
00:19:48No.
00:19:48But we can.
00:19:48Especially someone like Timothy.
00:19:51I don't think that he's that into Lucinda.
00:19:54Every week there's something that happens that he does that pisses me off.
00:19:58My observations are the same as what everyone else in the group thinks and sees.
00:20:01There's been no progress.
00:20:03But he's getting her hopes up.
00:20:05And the longer she stays in this experiment, the longer she has her hopes up.
00:20:09And that's not right.
00:20:10He is leading her on.
00:20:13And that's what I'm worried about.
00:20:15Lucinda getting her hopes up, making it to the end.
00:20:18And then, you know, Tim just dropping her.
00:20:20And she's going to be hurt from that.
00:20:23Lucinda, she's here to find love and she really, really wants to.
00:20:26But Tim is giving her hope and saying, oh, there could be a future.
00:20:30Oh, it's getting better.
00:20:31No, it's not.
00:20:31There's no progress.
00:20:32Tori's got no time for him.
00:20:34I know you don't, eh?
00:20:35Timothy shoots me to tears.
00:20:38I don't trust Timothy.
00:20:42Jayden is just a very protective person and has its short fuse.
00:20:46I know how that would go with Timothy.
00:20:48It would be ugly.
00:20:49He needs to just tread lightly.
00:20:54I'd like to have fun together tonight.
00:20:58I always look at having fun at dinner party.
00:21:02Yeah.
00:21:02Like last week, he told me on the couch, he's like, oh, I don't need your advice.
00:21:05Like, yes, you do.
00:21:07Pretty clear that there are certain people in the group who want to go for Timothy tonight.
00:21:15One of the things we know about Timothy is that he sees himself as the older statesman.
00:21:21Who is very experienced and mature and really isn't going to listen to pretty much anybody else in that room.
00:21:27It's an age thing, right?
00:21:29Yeah.
00:21:29Like you giving him advice to him is an ego thing.
00:21:31Because he's like, he's younger than me.
00:21:33I know better.
00:21:33It's got nothing to do about that.
00:21:34You are emotionally incompetent.
00:21:41Okay.
00:21:41Let's do this.
00:21:59Lucinda and Tim are here.
00:22:02Yeah.
00:22:06No.
00:22:08He looks so uninterested.
00:22:10Still no hand holding?
00:22:11No.
00:22:12There has been no progress.
00:22:13They're not holding hands.
00:22:14They're not kissing.
00:22:15There's no intimacy.
00:22:16That's my take on it.
00:22:17She's not getting anything out of him.
00:22:20She deserves so much more.
00:22:22I want to try and make sure she's treated the right way in this experiment.
00:22:27We're ready.
00:22:32Hey, you.
00:22:33How are ya?
00:22:33Look at you.
00:22:34You're like a superhero.
00:22:35You're like a butler.
00:22:36Like a sexy butler.
00:22:38Oh, there you go.
00:22:39Lucinda is such a genuine soul.
00:22:42You can see when she arrives how everybody just embraces her.
00:22:45She really makes an effort to connect to each person and she lifts up the room.
00:22:50Now, I wanted to say to you that I was so disappointed.
00:22:54I know.
00:22:55I hadn't seen Jack since the last commitment ceremony and I just wanted to acknowledge
00:23:01that those misogynistic perspectives aren't welcome and it wasn't appreciated.
00:23:07I know you regret it.
00:23:08I do.
00:23:09I don't mind having the battle with Lauren and she appreciated the battle.
00:23:12Sure.
00:23:12But our words are such spell rooms, aren't they?
00:23:15Yeah.
00:23:15And we've just got to keep asking what love does.
00:23:19Yeah.
00:23:19And you're such a kind soul.
00:23:21To be able to go to Jack, someone who did the wrong thing, and to give him that feedback
00:23:27in a respectful way and then give the man a hug, I mean, it's quite incredible.
00:23:31It's quite powerful.
00:23:33Yeah.
00:23:34Hopefully that never happens again.
00:23:36I believe in you.
00:23:38You know, the group has a lot of respect for Lucinda.
00:23:41So you can understand why Jaden's protective side is coming out.
00:23:46So what's been going on?
00:23:47It was a messy week, but family and friends day really turned it around yesterday.
00:23:53My dad, he was hilarious.
00:23:54He just gave Tim some home truths and he said-
00:23:57Did you put it on him?
00:23:58Oh yeah.
00:23:58I think he needs it.
00:24:00What's changed though?
00:24:00Well, it's a shift of we're on the same team.
00:24:04I think there's something that has yet to be explored that could be interesting.
00:24:12I don't know.
00:24:13She's got her hopes up.
00:24:14I just think I can see what's really going on in the relationship.
00:24:18She likes him and sees her future with him.
00:24:21However, he doesn't.
00:24:23If you want more, you should be getting it.
00:24:25I just feel like you're sort of holding back.
00:24:27I'm not saying right now it is enough, right?
00:24:31It's not.
00:24:31No, of course not.
00:24:32Yeah, it's not enough.
00:24:33But also, that's all he's got to give.
00:24:36Yeah.
00:24:36But how much longer can you sort of wait around?
00:24:38Because I can see you obviously want more, but how much longer can you wait around while
00:24:42not getting enough?
00:24:43I suppose I've got a really complicated cat that's such an awesome human, but he's a tough nut.
00:24:52Jayden was just really concerned for me.
00:24:55He just felt that I deserved more in his words.
00:24:59Look, he doesn't know the facts.
00:25:02And I just assured Jayden that we've actually had a really genuine reset.
00:25:07For us, it's a week to week situation.
00:25:09I can't see the finish line, no way.
00:25:12But I can see until the next commitment ceremony.
00:25:14And if you ask me what I'll write right now, it's yes.
00:25:17Okay, good, good.
00:25:18I feel really good with Tim at the moment.
00:25:21Like, he's being truthful at every turn, actually.
00:25:27I'm not in the relationship, but I saw you guys on the couch, and since day one to now week
00:25:31six,
00:25:32there hasn't been any progress.
00:25:33From my point of view, I think you need more.
00:25:36Well, that's so lovely that you wish for more for me.
00:25:39Yes, I do.
00:25:40I know what I've seen, and I know what I heard.
00:25:43He's saying, I'm not enough for her.
00:25:47He pulls Lucinda aside.
00:25:49Like, he's the wise man.
00:25:51F*** off.
00:25:52I value your honesty.
00:25:54I don't want him to lead you on, and you get to the end, and you're obviously hurt.
00:25:57And there's a few other people here that think the same thing.
00:26:00Every dude with a hair bun on this show thinks they're Dr. Phil and f*** Tony Robbins all mixed into
00:26:06one.
00:26:06I can see you're not getting mad.
00:26:07That's where I'm coming from.
00:26:09He can't have so much opinions about our relationship.
00:26:13Watch it, because I'll be all over you like a pit bull on a poodle.
00:26:17Still to come...
00:26:18The truth is...
00:26:20Ben makes a shocking announcement.
00:26:23Why would you ever say that to someone?
00:26:25Hang on, hang on.
00:26:26It is...
00:26:27What?
00:26:29And...
00:26:29You've got nothing to say to me.
00:26:31At 27, my relationship is near perfect.
00:26:33Guys, you've always been a grandstandist.
00:26:35To him and me!
00:26:50Hey, hey.
00:26:51What's good?
00:26:52Hello.
00:26:53Wow.
00:26:54What are you green?
00:26:57Rich and Jade.
00:26:59These guys are going real strong, eh?
00:27:00They're doing so good.
00:27:01How are we?
00:27:02How are we?
00:27:02Good.
00:27:03I'm glad we have some new energy in the room.
00:27:06Yes.
00:27:07Oh my God, twinsies.
00:27:10Twinsies.
00:27:11What did you guys do this week?
00:27:12Talk to us.
00:27:14Did you guys have...
00:27:15What's it called?
00:27:16Confessions Week?
00:27:17We did.
00:27:17How was it?
00:27:18That was probably the hardest thing.
00:27:20Okay, why?
00:27:21Just the letter.
00:27:22It was just like so intense.
00:27:23All the letter, yeah.
00:27:24So what...
00:27:25Yeah, tell us about the letter.
00:27:26My letter was just like stuff with V, like my daughter.
00:27:31Basically just like when I fell pregnant, I was like very, very young.
00:27:35Yeah.
00:27:35And then my partner at the time, he cheated.
00:27:39And like I spent like my whole pregnancy being really angry at the situation.
00:27:43Yeah.
00:27:43I was this close to crying.
00:27:44That's how I know.
00:27:46I was like, oh man.
00:27:47I know.
00:27:47It was good.
00:27:48Choking up and everything.
00:27:49Jade has revealed something really personal there.
00:27:52Yeah.
00:27:52They're really, really connecting and some actual real bonds can...
00:27:56Absolutely.
00:27:56Can be developed there.
00:27:58When you guys have a baby one day, are you going to tell them?
00:28:00Oh yeah, we're going to know you have heaps of pigs.
00:28:02Yeah.
00:28:02We're having twins.
00:28:04Okay.
00:28:05I'd say we're pretty close to perfect.
00:28:07Perfect is obviously hard, but for the moment we're doing very, very well.
00:28:11I don't know if you can tell, but she's glowing.
00:28:14Look at yourself.
00:28:16Oh yeah, I'm glowing as well.
00:28:16Look at me.
00:28:18Yeah.
00:28:19How was your week?
00:28:20Yeah, it was good.
00:28:21Friends and family week?
00:28:22Yeah, it was good.
00:28:22I'm very happy.
00:28:23Another good week.
00:28:25Everyone's playing happy neighbours.
00:28:26Everyone's loving each other.
00:28:27Yeah, we're starting fresh today.
00:28:30Everything's like perfect.
00:28:31How are you doing?
00:28:33Oh, so we've had a good week.
00:28:36It was very civil, which is very odd.
00:28:41I am feeling both like a little bit nervous just about entering the dinner party by myself.
00:28:48It's going to be a lot of questions that will follow that.
00:28:50Is Ben gone?
00:28:52Or just coming in separate?
00:28:54I don't think so.
00:28:55I don't think so.
00:28:55It's disappointing because I want to believe Ben I do, but I don't know if I can get over
00:29:01this list of stuff that he didn't like about me.
00:29:05It makes my blood boil.
00:29:08Thank you, sir.
00:29:11I definitely deserve better.
00:29:13I feel like he's going to have to face the music.
00:29:19What a thought.
00:29:20Yeah.
00:29:20I feel like it's just, like, been such a lie.
00:29:22Where are you at?
00:29:23Oh!
00:29:25Hi!
00:29:27Oh, sorry.
00:29:29Oh, no.
00:29:30Oh, it's Ellie.
00:29:31Mine has been.
00:29:33Bye!
00:29:33Come on!
00:29:34Come on, let's get your drink.
00:29:35Last week, things were incredibly rocky with her and Ben.
00:29:41Well, I confronted him and said it's a sham.
00:29:44And challenged him to turn it up and actually get on board.
00:29:49I was actually really proud of Ellie on the couch last week.
00:29:51She did find her voice and she was so articulate and so clear about what she needs in a relationship
00:29:57and what she's not getting.
00:29:58Mm-hmm.
00:29:59So, where's he now?
00:30:01Download us.
00:30:02Download us.
00:30:02What do you remember from the commitment ceremony?
00:30:04Well, you were relieved.
00:30:05And you were not happy with the way that Ben was acting behind closed doors.
00:30:09That's pretty much it.
00:30:10So then after the commitment ceremony, the next day, you know, we were going to have a chat.
00:30:14Yeah.
00:30:15But he actually, he ran away.
00:30:17What?
00:30:19You're joking.
00:30:22That's a currently move.
00:30:24That's a currently move.
00:30:25That's a currently move.
00:30:27That's a currently move.
00:30:28So this was Ben on his best behavior trying to win her back.
00:30:32Oh, no.
00:30:32It just, it doesn't fly.
00:30:35He eventually came back, right?
00:30:37How did that go?
00:30:38He told me that he did want a relationship.
00:30:40But then he sat me down for two and a half hours.
00:30:44And then he's like written this list of all these things that was wrong with the relationship.
00:30:49And me too.
00:30:53What?
00:30:54There was an actual list?
00:30:55A list of how flawed you are.
00:30:58What is the purpose of that?
00:30:59So he doesn't forget every detail?
00:31:01Are you serious?
00:31:02What was bothering him about you?
00:31:04These were issues that were just ridiculous.
00:31:05Like I'm too emotional for him.
00:31:07And then he was saying that we're not having good conversation.
00:31:11I don't think Ben should have even mentioned that Ellie is too sensitive.
00:31:14I feel like you're allowed to be sensitive or emotional.
00:31:18Like everyone's feelings are valid.
00:31:20At the end of the day, we're all going to have opinions.
00:31:21But yeah, I thought it was definitely inappropriate.
00:31:24And I'm sure there was other things on that list that would have been inappropriate.
00:31:27And then, you know, over the weekend he sent me like a gift.
00:31:30What was it?
00:31:31What was it?
00:31:31So it was photos printed out from our wedding that he found online.
00:31:36So he's printed that out.
00:31:37And then he's written like a letter asking me to meet him at the beach where we got married.
00:31:46He's done it a few times now.
00:31:48We'll have like an argument and then he'll try and send me something.
00:31:51And then just go and smooth it over.
00:31:54It can be a very toxic pattern.
00:31:57You can treat someone really poorly and then sprinkle a little kindness in with a gift to bring him back.
00:32:04And you can get caught in that pattern.
00:32:07And we're seeing Ellie really struggle with it.
00:32:09And then like because I'm really, I'm kind and I like to see the best in people, right?
00:32:13No.
00:32:14I keep thinking to myself, oh, does he mean that?
00:32:16Yeah.
00:32:17You know, is that gift like supposed to be really nice?
00:32:19And you know what?
00:32:19I'm so confused.
00:32:21Yeah, it would be very confused.
00:32:22So do you like see where I'm coming from?
00:32:24Yes, we all see.
00:32:24No, we all see.
00:32:25We all see.
00:32:25We're not questioning you in the slightest.
00:32:29And he's now putting on a brave face because he knows he's going to get attacked by us.
00:32:33Like we're, we're all going to see him for who he is and we're going to have something to say
00:32:37about it.
00:32:38I suspect Ben's approach tonight is the one that he usually uses, which is just to say, yeah, I can
00:32:45do better.
00:32:46And he's done that a number of times throughout this experiment, but nothing changes.
00:32:50Yeah.
00:32:51I guess the difference is now Ali clearly doesn't buy it.
00:32:54She's going to get the support of the group behind her.
00:32:56She's going to see him for what he is tonight.
00:33:01Ali and I feels right.
00:33:03You know, she's an incredible woman.
00:33:05I'm not worried.
00:33:06I'm confident that we're going to get through it.
00:33:08There's some good people in there that want to help and support.
00:33:12I remember the first semester I'm on the couch.
00:33:13I'm like, what is he even saying?
00:33:15These are just like pre-planned stories.
00:33:17That alone says that he's very fake though.
00:33:22I don't understand Ben.
00:33:25Like, he had this beautiful, lovely girl.
00:33:27I kind of want to slap him.
00:33:30Like, in the metaphorical sense.
00:33:35Like, stop ruining this amazing opportunity.
00:33:39But he's definitely ruined a good thing, I would say.
00:33:42Well, he's showing me time and time again that he just like runs.
00:33:44You know what I mean?
00:33:45Yeah.
00:33:46Like, he just leaves.
00:33:46I know how he runs when the pressure comes.
00:33:48And then I'm thinking, well, is this someone that I want to share my life with?
00:33:51He's like, what if we have kids if he wants them?
00:33:54And the pressure gets too much.
00:33:55We don't actually know yet.
00:33:57That was an epiphany.
00:33:58And the pressure gets too much.
00:33:59He's just going to cut and run.
00:34:01I'm focusing on the future with Eileen.
00:34:03Every relationship has the downs.
00:34:05It's just how it goes.
00:34:06It's hard.
00:34:07But then I can chat with Eileen and figure it out.
00:34:11You're pretty confident that we can move forward as a team.
00:34:16It's hard.
00:34:17Did you do that?
00:34:18It was great.
00:34:19It was sexy.
00:34:20Oh!
00:34:22Hey!
00:34:23Hey!
00:34:24Hey!
00:34:25Hey, mate!
00:34:26Look at your hands.
00:34:31Oh!
00:34:32Who are you?
00:34:33Oh!
00:34:34He's Ben.
00:34:35That's a pretty frosty entrance, isn't it?
00:34:37Very.
00:34:38It's your guy.
00:34:40Oh!
00:34:40Why does the guy so quiet?
00:34:42It's so wigs me out, bro.
00:34:44It's so annoying.
00:34:45When Ben walked in, everyone just went dead silent.
00:34:49It was that awkward.
00:34:50Hi!
00:34:51Hey!
00:34:51Good to see you!
00:34:52How are you?
00:34:52Ben will know now that he's in for a long night.
00:34:58How you doing?
00:35:02Hey, how are you?
00:35:03Good.
00:35:03Do you want to have a quick chat?
00:35:04Okay, good, sure.
00:35:05What do you want to say?
00:35:06I'm gorgeous.
00:35:06We're matching.
00:35:07I think he went like this and then she went like that and it was like, oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:35:12You want to get a drink?
00:35:13Yeah, come get a drink.
00:35:15Just him and then.
00:35:15How you doing?
00:35:16He went to grab a hand and she kind of pulled away and it was like an absolute car crash
00:35:20in slow motion.
00:35:21Grab a drink.
00:35:22Yeah, awesome.
00:35:23My grab a refill.
00:35:25How do you feel?
00:35:31The dinner is served.
00:35:33That's right.
00:35:36Dinner is served.
00:35:37Already?
00:35:38Yeah.
00:35:39Yeah.
00:35:56So this will be very difficult for Ben because he'll be walking into a room of people that
00:36:01know what's happened.
00:36:02Yes.
00:36:02They're siding with Ellie.
00:36:04You know, the group is angry because they're trying to be a part of this experiment and exposing
00:36:08themselves and being vulnerable.
00:36:10And Ben is walls up, not participating.
00:36:15The group and Ellie have all sort of had enough.
00:36:35Well, it's uncomfortable.
00:36:37Cheers, Ellie.
00:36:39Cheers.
00:36:41Cheers.
00:36:42Cheers.
00:36:42Yeah.
00:36:43Cheers.
00:36:44Cheers.
00:36:44Sorry.
00:36:47It's not all open arms and warmth, but I got Ellie a nice present.
00:36:53It shows that I want it to work and I think she can see that there's still respect there.
00:37:10I think everyone has a lot of questions tonight.
00:37:15The person I need to be accountable to the most is Ellie.
00:37:18And I felt like I've already done that today.
00:37:24Yeah, Ellie's obviously coming to the cocktail party.
00:37:26I'm alone.
00:37:28And I'm telling them about this list that you wrote.
00:37:33Gotcha.
00:37:34I understand.
00:37:42What?
00:37:43We need a call.
00:37:43Let's get Ben the floor because we've heard from Ellie and let's hear from Ben.
00:37:49Sure.
00:37:53I wanted to chat in the room beforehand.
00:37:56You know, having those conversations one-on-one more privately.
00:38:00But if she wants to bring up everything at the table, I guess so.
00:38:05Why don't you give us your events from the commitments hour?
00:38:07Because we haven't seen you since the commitments hour.
00:38:09Yeah.
00:38:09What happened?
00:38:10Heaps.
00:38:15So I wanted to have a conversation which blew out, I didn't want it to go for two hours.
00:38:21We were getting absolutely nowhere and you had a list of things that you didn't like about me.
00:38:33He wrote a list of things you didn't like.
00:38:36Oh my God.
00:38:37Different from that, haven't you?
00:38:38So I didn't write it out.
00:38:40I had a booklet in front of me that was just dot points.
00:38:45Ben wrote a list of negative things about his wife.
00:38:50Take that list and shove it up your ass.
00:38:53You don't write a bad list, a negative list about your wife as part of your communication.
00:39:01Oh my God.
00:39:03Yeah, shove it where the sun don't shine.
00:39:05It was a list written down.
00:39:06The first thing you said on that list was about me wearing makeup.
00:39:10Oh no.
00:39:14What?
00:39:15Hang on, hang on.
00:39:17That's horrible.
00:39:18That is so disrespectful.
00:39:20That is the most controlling thing I've ever heard a man say.
00:39:25Regardless of whether she wears makeup or not,
00:39:27like a man should never have an opinion about how much makeup you wear.
00:39:31That is just kind of like a dig at her.
00:39:34This is disrespectful to Ellie.
00:39:36Why would you ever say that to someone?
00:39:39It was stupid.
00:39:39It was a dumb thing to say.
00:39:41That's not even a relationship issue.
00:39:44For him to be like, oh yeah, like I messed up.
00:39:46It's like you wrote it.
00:39:47You wrote it, bro.
00:39:49So I'm just not used to it.
00:39:51That's it.
00:39:52There's nothing wrong with it.
00:39:53Then why'd you bring it up?
00:39:54There's something wrong with saying that though.
00:39:56So many things wrong with saying that.
00:39:57I don't want to communicate it as effectively.
00:39:59I'm trying to be as sensitive I can and sometimes it just comes out shit.
00:40:04There was excuses and stories and epiphanies and...
00:40:08I didn't say not wear makeup.
00:40:10That's not it.
00:40:12I don't buy what he's selling at all.
00:40:15Okay, so Ben, why did you write it?
00:40:17So, I live pretty rough.
00:40:20I don't have any sisters.
00:40:22Ellie spends a lot of time in the mirror.
00:40:27Ben, mate.
00:40:32It's actually cruel.
00:40:33Like that's not nice.
00:40:35That's like gonna offend anyone.
00:40:41The second point was that I'm too sensitive and too emotional.
00:40:44But you would be after two and a half hours of sat there listening to this shit.
00:40:48Of course, we don't debrief.
00:40:50We don't talk about this.
00:40:51We do. We debrief.
00:40:52At night.
00:40:53We debrief behind closed doors.
00:40:55And then you don't even share your opinions.
00:40:57This is why I'm confused with communication.
00:40:59Like it just makes me just bottle it up.
00:41:01And I still haven't figured it out yet.
00:41:06So, it's Ellie's fault?
00:41:07Yeah.
00:41:08That he's been holding stuff in.
00:41:11He's in damage control, isn't he?
00:41:13Yeah.
00:41:16It's game playing.
00:41:18You've had a lot of time to think about these stories and it's bullshit.
00:41:22I don't give a shit what you think.
00:41:24Say something real.
00:41:28Like there's this, there's this falseness about you.
00:41:32That's, that's hearsay.
00:41:36The truth is.
00:41:44I don't believe we're meant to be with each other.
00:41:50He's, what?
00:41:53He's just broken up with her in front of the whole table.
00:42:00I do believe we're better off friends.
00:42:03I apologize for wasting your time.
00:42:06Look at Ellie.
00:42:07She's, this is, she's completely blindsided.
00:42:11It's ridiculous.
00:42:23The truth is, I don't believe we're meant to be with each other.
00:42:36He's just broken up with her in front of the whole table.
00:42:39You realize tonight that you didn't want to be with Ellie.
00:42:41You decided to tell everybody.
00:42:42Is this the first time you've had this conversation?
00:42:43Is this the first time?
00:42:44Is that the first time you've heard this?
00:42:48That's rich.
00:42:50Ben, you decided to have that communication in front of all of us right now.
00:42:54Yes.
00:42:54That's what you're doing.
00:42:55So you think you're better off friends?
00:42:56Yes.
00:42:59Why would he even send that gift if he's now saying that he knows he's,
00:43:04doesn't want to be with her.
00:43:06And this inconsistency must be so confusing and hurtful for her.
00:43:10I'm going to call you out on that because that is not right.
00:43:14So everyone gets to witness my, my broken heart.
00:43:18Ben wanted Ellie back.
00:43:20Ellie didn't want Ben back.
00:43:21And then he's now flipped it like, oh, I just want to be friends.
00:43:24Like that's not what happened.
00:43:25It's literally not what happened.
00:43:27And he could have just been honest and said, I tried to get it back.
00:43:29It was too late.
00:43:30So now we're just being friends because that's the truth.
00:43:32You're now putting on a show in front of all of us that you are deciding.
00:43:36You were deciding now that you decided you want to be friends.
00:43:40So a few weeks ago, yes, there was doubts.
00:43:43You know, if I had a time machine, maybe it would have wrote leave a few weeks ago.
00:43:50I'm done with Ben.
00:43:51I feel like he tries to save face in front of everyone.
00:43:55He's gotten angry and lashed out.
00:43:57It's nasty.
00:44:03I can't believe you.
00:44:06I don't expect you to.
00:44:10I can only be me the best I can.
00:44:12Hearing Ben just speak about our relationship just so crass and it was just awful.
00:44:18He did not take my feelings into account.
00:44:20And then he tried to pull the card on me.
00:44:22Oh, this is why I don't like to speak my feelings because you get emotional.
00:44:25Such a low blow.
00:44:26It just means that he doesn't know how to communicate or get onto my level.
00:44:29Like he actually just doesn't know how to talk to anyone really.
00:44:34But what I've seen of Ben now is not a Ben that I want in my future life.
00:44:39Well, I sincerely hope the next relationship you get into, you're actually honest from the get go.
00:44:45Because you've actually wasted my time.
00:44:48I definitely deserve better.
00:44:57Sarah and Tim are kissing at the table.
00:45:00It's nice to see them continue to blossom.
00:45:05You guys are so cute.
00:45:07Are you guys still absolutely adoring each other?
00:45:10I'm still the love heart emojis every time I see her, so yeah.
00:45:13I love to hear her.
00:45:18Sarah and Tim.
00:45:19You guys have been all over each other for like two weeks.
00:45:22It's been good to see.
00:45:23Yeah.
00:45:24I told Sarah that when Richie and I were having our trouble, I'm like, if Tim and Sarah can do
00:45:31it, anyone can.
00:45:33Such a breath of fresh air to see these dynamics.
00:45:37Yeah.
00:45:39Not bad.
00:45:41There's a lot of rig going on.
00:45:47Just before, I heard Jayden questioning my relationship with Lucinda.
00:45:54Jayden.
00:45:55What a mouthpiece.
00:45:58Jayden walks around here like he's mass royalty.
00:46:01Get over yourself, man.
00:46:04They're under 30 with an opinion.
00:46:06I just replaced my undies the other day because I was 24 years old.
00:46:12I'm freezing.
00:46:13Cold, you want a jacket?
00:46:15No, just a heart.
00:46:15He'll keep you warm.
00:46:16Yeah.
00:46:17Keep it real warm.
00:46:21He just shouldn't have said anything.
00:46:23He's in my firing line now.
00:46:26I'll call it like I see it.
00:46:28That's the difference between a man and a boy.
00:46:32I've heard some shit.
00:46:34Like what?
00:46:36I heard Jayden said that Lucinda got short changed.
00:46:41Why didn't you ask him?
00:46:42I won't.
00:46:43I heard my name.
00:46:44What's going on?
00:46:46I heard that you said to Lucinda that she got short changed.
00:46:57I just said, I said, what's the go between you guys?
00:47:01And after the last commitment ceremony, she was very upset.
00:47:04She was very worked up.
00:47:05I was.
00:47:05You're right.
00:47:06That's what was happening.
00:47:07But it has changed.
00:47:08Especially since yesterday.
00:47:09Things can change.
00:47:10But I was checking up on it.
00:47:13Can we ask, at the end of the last commitment ceremony, it's the last time we've seen you
00:47:16You seem pissed that Lucinda spoke her through.
00:47:20Yeah.
00:47:20And you got back on the couch and you said something to her.
00:47:22You said, don't ever talk to me again.
00:47:24That's exactly what I said.
00:47:27Why?
00:47:28Because we had a great three days.
00:47:31Up until she threw me under the bus.
00:47:34She did throw you under the bus.
00:47:39I've needed to look at a lot of my crap and my not accepting it.
00:47:44Don't blame yourself.
00:47:45You have been blaming yourself far too much.
00:47:46Way too much.
00:47:47You have nothing to apologise for.
00:47:50Timothy's trying to justify his behaviour towards Lucinda.
00:47:53That's not right.
00:47:54And I think it needs to stop.
00:47:57So I'd like to get to the bottom of it.
00:48:00Lou, are you disappointed that six weeks in, there hasn't been any romantic connection?
00:48:06Right now, I've dropped expectation.
00:48:09I've dropped my...
00:48:10But you've got to have some kind of expectation.
00:48:12There's no right or wrong.
00:48:13There's no one at fault.
00:48:15But you're saying, you keep saying stay.
00:48:17You're giving her hope.
00:48:18And we don't know why.
00:48:20Do you know what makes this situation more volatile than it needs to be?
00:48:24Is Jaden's very strong black and white language.
00:48:27You've got no hope.
00:48:28Mm-hm.
00:48:29There's no grey there for him.
00:48:30And that's making Timothy very angry.
00:48:32Yeah, he's feeling judged, Timothy.
00:48:34That's bullshit.
00:48:35I don't think Tim would be here if he didn't have hope.
00:48:38You know what?
00:48:39Maybe I'm wrong.
00:48:40Maybe...
00:48:40You are wrong.
00:48:41Maybe I am.
00:48:42You're completely wrong.
00:48:42Exactly.
00:48:43You're 100% wrong.
00:48:44You know what, maybe I am wrong.
00:48:45100% wrong.
00:48:46That's why I'm asking the question.
00:48:48Well, it's not an yes or no question.
00:48:50And that's, again, that's Jaden being very binary about something that's a lot more nuanced.
00:48:55And that's his age and experience showing.
00:48:57So, you know what?
00:48:58I've given it a couple of weeks.
00:48:59I've given it a lot.
00:49:01And that's great.
00:49:01The fact is, this relationship hasn't gone anywhere since day one.
00:49:07The challenge with Timothy, though, is that this style of him bellowing and getting really
00:49:12combative and aggressive, it really doesn't lend itself to opening up.
00:49:17Come on!
00:49:18Come on!
00:49:19Bullshit!
00:49:20Never once.
00:49:21So, the reaction will be to fight back, of course.
00:49:23Yes.
00:49:23Attack back.
00:49:26We just want to know, do you see a long-term future with Lucinda?
00:49:31I don't have to answer to you.
00:49:33Well, you don't have to, but this is what you're in the experiment.
00:49:36We're both holding ourselves accountable.
00:49:38No, no, it's all right.
00:49:39It's all right.
00:49:40I've got an issue.
00:49:41I've got an issue with anyone under 30 giving me advice.
00:49:45We know that's not how you me.
00:49:47We know that's not how you chill.
00:49:48The sight of Jaden's face and his hair bun just drives me nuts.
00:49:54This 27-year-old smart-ass from the Gold Coast that sits here in his red jacket that thinks
00:50:01he's a be-all and end-all.
00:50:04There's three things in life.
00:50:07Boys want attention, men want respect, and legends don't give a f*** either way.
00:50:12You come in here and you say that there's been progress and there's hope, but how is there
00:50:17hope and progress when this relationship is the same as it was on the first day?
00:50:20You know what?
00:50:21That's your opinion.
00:50:22You're 27.
00:50:22You've got nothing to say to me.
00:50:24I'm 27 and my relationship is near perfect.
00:50:26Call me in three years.
00:50:28Call me in three years.
00:50:29Call me in three years.
00:50:31Call me in three years.
00:50:32You know what?
00:50:33You're here grandstanding.
00:50:34What's grandstanding?
00:50:35The world number one.
00:50:36Two time, baby.
00:50:37Yeah.
00:50:38Whatever.
00:50:39Jaden has been holier than now since the day he started this thing.
00:50:44And...
00:50:45I'm over it.
00:50:50You'll have nothing in life.
00:50:52What?
00:50:53Timothy!
00:50:54You're a grandstander.
00:50:56You have been since day one.
00:50:57You're a grandstander.
00:50:59You've always been a grandstander since day one.
00:51:01Whoa!
00:51:13Whatever.
00:51:14Nothing.
00:51:15You'll have nothing in life.
00:51:17Why, Timothy?
00:51:19Seriously, I couldn't believe that.
00:51:22You don't speak to anyone like that.
00:51:24I don't care who you are.
00:51:24You're a grandstander.
00:51:25You have been since day one.
00:51:27You're a grandstander.
00:51:28You've always been a grandstander since day one.
00:51:31I'm pissed.
00:51:35Wow.
00:51:36What the is wrong with you?
00:51:39No one spills my wine, that's for sure.
00:51:43I'm pissed.
00:51:45So the explosive, bing, back at a boom, you know,
00:51:50cowboys out with their guns at the tavern, you know.
00:51:55Look at this prick, he's going at it.
00:51:58He's broken record.
00:52:00He's broken .
00:52:02I think everyone's got their opinions and, you know,
00:52:04they see so much, and I just don't think
00:52:07everyone's got the full picture.
00:52:09I would just like to say, and I really,
00:52:11I mean this with all my heart, Tim is an awesome person.
00:52:15Yeah, we've heard it, we've heard it.
00:52:16One minute, I haven't finished.
00:52:21I was feeling quite defensive of Tim, to be honest.
00:52:25Feeling very passionate and fiery tonight, actually.
00:52:28It could be the rose thorns, I'm not sure what's going on.
00:52:33It's been a rough week.
00:52:35It was tough.
00:52:37We've been in separate apartments, there's been some blowouts,
00:52:40we've both said things, but yesterday we had a massive shift.
00:52:44We had friends and family come, we had some real, real conversations.
00:52:48My dad kicked Tim's ass with a lot of humour as well, and you really heard Dad.
00:52:56We've, you know, we've been the rockiest couple.
00:52:58Yeah.
00:52:58And when I'm hoping that when you guys hear us say, we've had a turnaround, you can trust
00:53:04us.
00:53:04Yeah.
00:53:05Yeah.
00:53:06This fight escalated massively.
00:53:10Lucinda and Timothy are grown ups.
00:53:13They're on the same page.
00:53:15The other couples shouldn't judge their relationship.
00:53:20Lucinda, are you happy with where you guys are at?
00:53:23Yeah.
00:53:23You're happy with, and you know that he's just happy to take slow steps.
00:53:28Yes.
00:53:28And you're happy with that.
00:53:29Then that's all that matters.
00:53:30Lucinda is a strong, intelligent woman.
00:53:34She would not be here if she couldn't handle it, if she felt like she was being lied to, tricked,
00:53:38fooled.
00:53:39You've got to have more faith in Lucinda, man.
00:53:41She knows what she's doing.
00:53:44I think it's quite telling that Lucinda's reaction tonight, he's really trying to have
00:53:51his back.
00:53:52She's calming him and the whole table, and it's great that she's finally being heard.
00:53:58I respect him and trust where Tim's at.
00:54:02Tim doesn't give away trust easily because he's been frickin' hurt and burnt.
00:54:08Oh, f***ing shut up.
00:54:14Who's that f***ing hell up there?
00:54:16Me.
00:54:18The comments that Timothy made, how dare you say to someone, you have nothing.
00:54:25Like, that f***ed me off.
00:54:27Lucinda, you've just had someone sit there, say to someone, you have nothing.
00:54:32You have nothing in life.
00:54:33That's disgusting.
00:54:34Oh, whatever.
00:54:36I don't care what I'm going to say.
00:54:41Tim and I have lots of different perspectives on different things.
00:54:44Like, you know, that explosion, it's been a bit to process.
00:54:53I understand why Tim was upset tonight.
00:54:57I was on the same team, but I didn't like things that Tim was saying.
00:55:03I don't stand for that.
00:55:05You're done with the shoes.
00:55:07When did you lift the shoes?
00:55:09You're under the table.
00:55:11Having to scream and yell and bang down tables.
00:55:14That is not attractive for me.
00:55:18I'd like to have a chat to him about it.
00:55:20How are you feeling?
00:55:22I'm over now.
00:55:23I'm done too long.
00:55:25I have a little bit of a break with you.
00:55:27I just don't think that's necessary for personal dance.
00:55:31I don't know.
00:55:32It's been, it's below the belt.
00:55:34I mean, you're better than that.
00:55:35It's, I'm not into it.
00:55:37I'm just hating you on it.
00:55:38I get it.
00:55:45I love this.
00:55:48Lucinda presents a beautiful mirror up to him about the way he comes across and the
00:55:53way that he reacts.
00:55:55You know what?
00:55:56There's nobody that can actually talk to me like this and then get away with it.
00:56:00But you can.
00:56:02Why are you letting her be good?
00:56:03You can.
00:56:05This is good.
00:56:06There's a lot of respect.
00:56:10I think because the two of them have connected, I think Tim really will hear this from the
00:56:14sender.
00:56:15This will bring them closer together.
00:56:17We're making some progress here.
00:56:20I've got nothing, I've got nothing but respect for you tonight.
00:56:24Nothing but respect.
00:56:26Tim's not perfect, but I feel really connected to Tim right now.
00:56:32You're rock solid.
00:56:33You're rock solid.
00:56:34You're rock solid.
00:56:39I'm feeling, you know, like we've got each other in this moment.
00:56:49Still to come.
00:56:50You're just talking about smug.
00:56:51Pretty sure that's just Tim's face.
00:56:53Tori and Cassandra face off.
00:56:56I just saw Tim sit quietly and you're just like, I'm like your face.
00:56:59It's smug.
00:57:00In a tense showdown.
00:57:01Don't tell me what I said.
00:57:03I know what I said.
00:57:04It came out of my mouth.
00:57:05You said you look smug.
00:57:05You're just like, you look smug.
00:57:07Oh, don't tell me what I said.
00:57:18How do you think the night's gonna end for you guys?
00:57:22There's no question Lou has been incredible tonight.
00:57:25Like she's been, she's been a solid.
00:57:29She has been absolutely a 10 out of 10.
00:57:33She always is.
00:57:33There's no question.
00:57:35I can't.
00:57:39He's so full of shit.
00:57:40I can't deal.
00:57:42Timothy was acting like he didn't just blow up the table.
00:57:45Spare me.
00:57:45You're looking at someone and you're saying you have nothing.
00:57:49You amount to nothing.
00:57:52Everyone was just like, oh, cheeky Timothy.
00:57:55He's so rogue.
00:57:57And Lucinda, the way she backed him.
00:57:59It's just Timothy.
00:58:01It's just Timothy.
00:58:01No, it's not.
00:58:02Just Timothy.
00:58:04I don't imply that at all.
00:58:06I could not stand by a man that displayed himself the way Timothy did today.
00:58:11Absolutely not.
00:58:12No chance.
00:58:20You just look a bit smug.
00:58:25I look smug?
00:58:26You look a bit like, you look very like accomplished.
00:58:28Like yeah, I **** shit up.
00:58:31I'm mellow.
00:58:32Yeah.
00:58:32Oh, cause you got it out of there.
00:58:34Yeah, I'm mellow.
00:58:34He's got nothing.
00:58:36He's got nothing to live for.
00:58:38Can I tell you Timothy?
00:58:41Tell me.
00:58:42If Jack sat down on the couch after a session with the experts and said don't speak to me, my
00:58:49foot would go down his throat.
00:58:51Yeah.
00:58:52Yeah.
00:58:52How do you come back from that?
00:58:56No problem with Jack.
00:58:57But you have no problem with Jack saying muzzle, muzzle your lady.
00:59:07I had absolutely had a problem with you.
00:59:08No, you didn't have a major problem.
00:59:10You said you didn't have a major problem.
00:59:12Did you spend the week with us?
00:59:14No, did you spend the week with us?
00:59:17I wouldn't want to **** spend a week with you.
00:59:19Okay.
00:59:21Tim, Timothy is making a very strong point here.
00:59:24Yes, he is.
00:59:25Very.
00:59:25And you can tell it's hitting a nerve.
00:59:27Because Tori's fired up.
00:59:29And of course Tori has no comeback about the muzzle comment.
00:59:34There's no way to make that look appropriate.
00:59:37Yeah.
00:59:38And what it says about Jack and what he thinks of women, it strikes a nerve every time it's mentioned.
00:59:44Yeah.
00:59:49I know when to speak and when not to speak.
00:59:53Really?
00:59:53Because Jack tells you when to speak and when not to speak.
00:59:56Jack doesn't tell me when to speak.
00:59:56He told her when to speak.
00:59:59Jack doesn't tell me when to speak.
01:00:01He said put a muzzle on it.
01:00:02Nice deflection, Timothy.
01:00:04Jack does not tell me when to speak.
01:00:06And Jack didn't tell Lauren when to speak.
01:00:08Jack said stop speaking.
01:00:13Don't tell me I didn't have a problem with it because I didn't address it here.
01:00:17Um, Tori was just trying to pick and pick and pick.
01:00:21You're now just trying to fight for anything.
01:00:25Or just pick a fight, just pick a fight is really surface level.
01:00:30Back to my question.
01:00:31My question was how do you come back from saying to someone,
01:00:33saying to someone don't speak to me.
01:00:35I said she's a 10 out of 10.
01:00:37What are you deaf?
01:00:39Yeah, you're very like defensive.
01:00:41You've got a foul mouth man.
01:00:44Jack.
01:00:45You've got a foul mouth.
01:00:47Well this is Rich from the guy who told Jonathan to muzzle his woman.
01:01:00I said it once.
01:01:02I said it once.
01:01:04Even when four girls were going at me.
01:01:06Listen, here we go.
01:01:07Here we go.
01:01:07Here we go.
01:01:07I didn't say anything.
01:01:08Bring it in.
01:01:09I did it once and I've apologised for her.
01:01:11You know what?
01:01:11How many f-bombs have you thrown out at the bloody dinner table?
01:01:14It doesn't matter as much.
01:01:15It doesn't matter as much.
01:01:15Tori just seemed to be agitated that I was just relaxed.
01:01:19That seemed to get under her bonnet.
01:01:23I feel slimy as all f-bombs.
01:01:25Oh, I'm slimy.
01:01:26You are so smug.
01:01:30I'm the one that's smug, is it?
01:01:32That's it.
01:01:36I'm pretty sure he just sat down and then all of them just put their energy on him.
01:01:41Oh my God, Tori.
01:01:43Honestly, they've all got their own things and their relationships they're working on.
01:01:48They just want to put the spotlight on somebody else.
01:01:52Projecting.
01:01:53Probably.
01:01:57Yeah.
01:01:58So then what's with the eyes that you're giving everyone?
01:02:00I'm just listening to everyone.
01:02:02You're sitting there with one eyebrow raised like, oh yeah, what is it?
01:02:05I'm pretty sure that's just Tim's face.
01:02:07It's just his face.
01:02:19That actually pissed me off.
01:02:23Well, she's like laughing, giggling, drinking the Timothy Kool-Aid.
01:02:27She's got like an IV drip for the Timothy Kool-Aid.
01:02:29I think, honestly, I don't think Tim cares what anybody thinks about any of this.
01:02:34He doesn't care.
01:02:42Don't back, Timothy.
01:02:45And small bites, babe.
01:02:48Don't come for the top.
01:02:50I'm sorry.
01:02:51There's a f***ing food chain here and you are not at the top.
01:02:55Shut up.
01:02:56I feel like you're like Tim Tim.
01:03:00No, no.
01:03:01I've been Tim Tim since when we had a great chat from the wedding.
01:03:04Oh, good.
01:03:04That's really good.
01:03:05He's wonderful.
01:03:05He's a great human being.
01:03:06And that's just his face.
01:03:08I just saw Tim sit quietly and you're just like, I don't like your face.
01:03:11It's smug.
01:03:12And he did nothing.
01:03:13I don't think I said I don't like your face.
01:03:14You're just like, you look smug.
01:03:15Sorry, you just said don't look smug.
01:03:17You told me what I said.
01:03:17I know what I said.
01:03:18It came out of my mouth.
01:03:20You told me what I said.
01:03:21I said you look smug.
01:03:22That's what you said.
01:03:23You look smug.
01:03:23And he wasn't even doing anything.
01:03:24And then you just all kicked off.
01:03:28He wasn't doing anything.
01:03:29He just had his face is just his face.
01:03:36Oh, don't tell me what I f***ing said.
01:03:46Don't tell me what I said.
01:03:48I know what I said.
01:03:49It came out of my mouth.
01:03:51I know what I said.
01:03:51You said you look smug.
01:03:51Don't tell me what I said.
01:03:52I said you look smug.
01:03:53That's what you said.
01:03:54You look smug.
01:03:54And he wasn't even doing anything.
01:03:56And then you just all kicked off at him.
01:03:57He wasn't doing anything.
01:03:59He just had his face is just his face.
01:04:04Oh, don't tell me what I f***ing said.
01:04:09Why so angry?
01:04:10Yeah.
01:04:11About Cass.
01:04:13Where was all this passion to react to your husband's words last week?
01:04:20Tori's fuming about Cassie saying, you know, you said he looks smug.
01:04:25And she's picked up and said, well, I didn't say exactly that.
01:04:29Yeah.
01:04:30And has therefore basically made Cass a villain now.
01:04:35Something so insignificant because the gist of what Cass was saying was exactly what Tori said.
01:04:44You can't do this.
01:04:47What are you doing tonight?
01:04:48It's because I will bite.
01:04:50Don't tell me what I said.
01:04:52It came out of my mouth.
01:04:53They were my words.
01:04:54I said them.
01:05:00She doesn't speak, but when she does, it annoys me.
01:05:05And tonight I was like, okay, no one speaks to me like that.
01:05:12No one tells me what I've said.
01:05:15No one's quiet all night and then comes at me like that for no good reason.
01:05:19And she's lucky that she doesn't speak.
01:05:22Good on you, Cass.
01:05:23She just told her, mind your business.
01:05:25Stop talking to me.
01:05:27He did nothing, though.
01:05:30That's just his face.
01:05:32How you going, babe?
01:05:33That's just his face.
01:05:34Oh, Cass is just not one of friends.
01:05:36Cass.
01:05:40I just want to, now she's slob.
01:05:43Come out.
01:05:46Now she's smart.
01:05:47Oh, actually, there's one thing you don't do and it's you don't tell me what I said.
01:05:54The words came out of my mouth.
01:05:57And you're going to side with Timothy.
01:05:59Don't yourself.
01:06:01You and your shitty husband.
01:06:04You see this approach to Tori, arm around her, trying to calm her down.
01:06:11Yeah.
01:06:12Look at me.
01:06:13Chill.
01:06:14I feel like.
01:06:17But at the core, one person at the table challenged them about, you know, an appalling comment last week.
01:06:25And it's really set them back.
01:06:28Mm-hmm.
01:06:30In a sense, someone held a mirror up to them.
01:06:32Yeah.
01:06:34You all right?
01:06:35Yeah, I just want to go home.
01:06:36All right.
01:06:38All right.
01:06:46Where are you at with everything right now, Jack?
01:06:50Oh, I'll give you a better question.
01:06:52All right.
01:06:52Well, I'm going to go there.
01:06:54Because you've asked me.
01:06:55Is this a case where Tori is into you a lot more than you're into Tori?
01:07:04Um.
01:07:06When rose-coloured glasses crack.
01:07:09Yeah, definitely don't waste my time because I don't really.
01:07:12The experiment.
01:07:13I think she's terrific.
01:07:15I've never stopped thinking.
01:07:16No, no, no.
01:07:18Stop it.
01:07:19Demands the truth.
01:07:21I've sat here for weeks on end hearing this same old script coming out of your mouth.
01:07:26I don't know what to do.
01:07:28Come on, mate.
01:07:29Do you like her or do you not?
01:07:31That feeling that you're describing is the very definition of being ghastly.
01:07:35If you want to go, like, go now.
01:07:37An unforgettable commitment ceremony.
01:07:41Sunday at 7 on 9 and 9 now.
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