00:00And just listening to what President Trump's been saying during the course of the weekend,
00:03I mean, suggesting that NATO allies, European powers really need to get involved and support
00:10the United States. And they don't seem to want to do that. They seem to be saying,
00:15actually, this isn't NATO's war. This isn't an Article 5 issue, because in fact, it was
00:21the United States that attacked Iran and not the other way around. Is that assessment correct,
00:26do you think? Well, you know, I'm not going to get into the politics of what the president is doing
00:32here. I would just say this from my own experience, that building coalitions, especially military
00:38coalitions, is a deliberate process. And it starts with involving people from the very beginning
00:44and making sure that their voices are heard, they have input into the plans, they have bought into
00:51what we're doing, they agree with the objectives. And when you do that, then you have a much greater
00:57opportunity to create an effective coalition of military partners that can work together and are
01:02focused on the same objectives. We're not at that point right now, obviously. And so many of the
01:12things that are fundamental to building coalitions have not been in place. And so we're having to
01:18recreate all that at this time. So I'm not surprised by some of the reactions that we've
01:25seen here. But, you know, building a coalition, again, like most things, it takes effort. And we
01:31shouldn't take people for granted that they're just going to come into things, they have their own
01:35national interests and other things that they're looking after. And so, you know, all of those things
01:40will come back to, you know, have to come back and be addressed. You know, clearly, you know, this is,
01:47it is a little difficult, I think, to draw a direct connection to NATO. Certainly a number of the
01:53Western countries that are parts of NATO have interest in this area and are dependent upon the
01:57resources that come out of here, as are a number of Asian countries as well. So it's a kind of
02:05a
02:05non-standard coalition, which I guess even highlights the greater importance of pre-planning
02:11and coordination before we can effectively do something.
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