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00:00I disagree with what you do.
00:02You do realise you're the one in the wrong?
00:04You are dead behind the eyes.
00:06Everyone says this. Do you think I am?
00:08Yeah.
00:08Oh, OK.
00:09There's definitely a personality disorder.
00:11You're possibly a sociopath.
00:12I mean, not that you're asking for me to critique the whole scene,
00:15but I found it utterly repulsive.
00:17It made me feel physically sick,
00:19and I wanted to fucking smash them blokes in the mouth, some of them.
00:22Does that not concern you, the fact that your child would look back and think,
00:25you fucking animal, what were you doing?
00:27Would you knowingly sleep with a rapist?
00:29What message do you think you're sending out to young girls?
00:32Out of those thousand men, did any of them stink?
00:35What's your date of birth?
00:36Do you respect yourself?
00:37Why don't you like Lily Phillips?
00:39Do you ever cry?
00:40And I was like, get out.
00:41Instantly got security to make him leave.
00:43And you don't think these motherfuckers are the saddest individuals you've ever met?
00:46What do you think of me?
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01:23Bonnie Blue.
01:24Take two.
01:25Round two.
01:26Oh, round two.
01:27Ding, ding.
01:28Ding, the backlash I got for having you on the show last time was beyond the pale.
01:37I got bullied.
01:38I got attacked from all angles.
01:41I had my character assassinated.
01:43I was bullied.
01:45So I thought, I can't wait to fucking do it again.
01:47I know.
01:48I mean, I'm still wiping off your backlash that you left on my face.
01:50I see what you've done there, Bonnie.
01:52Straight in with the innuendos.
01:54Now, if you remember rightly, the last time I interviewed you, I said, I would love to see you in
01:59a year's time to see what's happened between now and then, because I thought you were going to slow down.
02:05I honestly thought, okay, you've not been in the industry for long.
02:09You're going to put the brakes on.
02:10You're pushing the boundaries.
02:11It's totally fucking outrageous.
02:12You're sleeping with father and sons.
02:14A few things that made the rest of my hair fall out.
02:16And you've done completely the polar opposite.
02:20So we'll get straight in to the nuts and bolts of it.
02:24There was an article that said that you said that one of your next stunts was going to be sleeping
02:32with migrant men as soon as they got to the shore.
02:36Is there any truth in that?
02:37No, I've never said that.
02:39Would you do that?
02:40No, not really my cup of tea.
02:42You need to have a sort of government level ID for me to be sleeping with you.
02:46And I don't think they've sort of got that.
02:49So they're not going to pass the consent form.
02:51Okay, so you have got boundaries.
02:53Yeah, some boundaries.
02:54Okay.
02:55Are you a force for good or a force for bad for the young women of Britain?
03:01Either or really.
03:02They're not really my problem or my responsibility.
03:04But as a whole, I do good.
03:06And why is that?
03:08Because I offer up my body.
03:09I say, hey, guys, come and do what you want to me as opposed to them doing something to somebody
03:14else.
03:14But I educate a lot of young men and old men that aren't educated in the bedroom on how to
03:19perform hair pulling, choking, how to pleasure a woman.
03:22And that all leads to them being safer in the bedroom and learning how to better pleasure somebody.
03:28So I'd say that's nothing but good.
03:31Is there anything that you do that you could see that could be bad or you could certainly see it
03:38from an outsider's point of view?
03:40Because you're pretty much desensitized to everything now, isn't you?
03:43Yeah, for sure.
03:44No, because I've been blamed recently for terrible things and I'm not responsible for it.
03:52What have you been blamed for?
03:53Culture.
03:54Promoting rape.
03:56Okay.
03:57It is non-consensual.
03:58The content I make is consensual.
04:01And it couldn't be more black and white than that.
04:03Yet, unfortunately, people pretend there's a grey area in that.
04:06And they really isn't.
04:08I mean, do you think I'd promote it?
04:09No, I've not noticed that you've been promoting rape culture.
04:12I mean, I don't follow you day in, day out because I probably wouldn't do my relationship any good.
04:19But what I did do is, in fact, let me go, let me ask you a question.
04:22Now, you said the word rapist.
04:23I know that you push the boundaries beyond the point of comprehension to a lot of people, me included.
04:32Yeah.
04:32Would you knowingly sleep with a rapist?
04:37Yes.
04:39I would.
04:40Fuck's sake.
04:41Why fuck's sake?
04:42Well, now, you tell me why you would sleep with a rapist first.
04:44Because I'm offering out my body.
04:46I'm consenting to it.
04:47So, to me, obviously, once you're a rapist, you're always a rapist.
04:51It's disgusting.
04:51But I'd prefer them to come and have consensual sex with me to doing that to someone else who hasn't
04:57consented.
04:58To someone they're going to hurt and traumatise and never-ending list of issues.
05:03I would prefer them to come and use my body as opposed to somebody else's.
05:07What about on the moral spectrum?
05:08Would you not think to yourself, you're a scumbag, you need to be in jail, not inside me?
05:14Of course, but I've not got the handcuffs.
05:17It's not my responsibility to put them away.
05:19There's, you know, if I slept with a rapist, unless it was me, the one that was getting raped, then
05:25yes, I've sort of got responsibility to put them away.
05:27But if I'm not the one they raped and I'm not the police and I'm not the court, then how
05:33can I be responsible to put them away?
05:35No, you're not responsible, but put it this way, I wouldn't nightly sleep with a rapist.
05:41Yeah.
05:41Well, we're different.
05:42This is true.
05:44You're a thousand men marathon, we'll call it.
05:48Yes.
05:49A lot of people have called bullshit on that.
05:51You can see why, because logistically, well, logistically, how does that work?
05:57It was hard work.
05:58Logistically, it was really, really difficult, but it was like every guy, every 30 to 40 seconds,
06:04I started off doing gangbangs, so the numbers could become, I guess, they could increase very quickly.
06:09And I always had, God, 30, 40, 50 people plus in the room I was in at all times, so
06:16they was hard and ready to go.
06:18And then on the stairs, there was three floors and it was a spiral staircase and at all moments of
06:23time,
06:23that staircase was full and there was a basement, it's like a holding area, which everyone was always in.
06:29And so there was always hundreds and hundreds of people in the house I was having sex in.
06:34So logistically, it was much easier that way because I was never thinking, I was never waiting around, waiting for
06:39the next person.
06:40It was a consistent rotation.
06:43So when you say they walk into the room hard, ready to go, who's fluffing them up behind the scenes?
06:48So I had a beautiful girl, Callie, who sort of, she only sort of did fluff them for about an
06:52hour throughout the whole day.
06:53She's had a jaw rate. But yeah, I had somebody helping me get them hard and ready.
06:59Like sometimes I was able to, because I only needed obviously one guy penetrating me at once for it to
07:04count.
07:05And they were switching and then I'd be able to get them hard through my mouth or my hands.
07:09And then once it was hard, they was able to put the condom on and then go inside of me.
07:13So sometimes I was able to get them hard myself. Other times I had a helping hand.
07:16Was the whole thing recorded as evidence?
07:19Yes.
07:20So there's no denying it. You 100% slept with over a thousand men in 24 hours.
07:25100%.
07:25Do you think that added any value to society?
07:28Well, one, you don't have to do something to add value. I couldn't really, I'm not responsible for adding value.
07:34But did it do anything wrong? No. So yeah, it did add value.
07:37What was the purpose of it then, not to add value?
07:39To pleasure, to have fun, celebrate with my subscribers and fans and give back to them.
07:46Like sometimes people look too much into things.
07:48That's why we're here.
07:48Yeah, but it's like, are you this or are you that? Did you do it for this reason or another
07:53reason?
07:53And sometimes the answer is, I just did it because I wanted to. I did it because it was fun
07:57and it was enjoyable and it was a good day.
08:00And it really is as simple as that.
08:01You can see why people will be flabbergasted and also equally as intrigued because this is something I've never seen
08:06in my lifetime.
08:07Yeah. I mean, a documentary came out yesterday and some of the backlash has been, oh my God, it's true.
08:13She actually did this because I think obviously everything I've explained about the day, people haven't seen much of that
08:18content.
08:18So now they're seeing the videos and they're seeing it from Channel 4, which isn't edited and I don't have,
08:24obviously, edit rights.
08:25And they're like, fuck, she really, she really did have a busy 24 hours.
08:29Well, the first time we sat down together, I'd never seen any of your content.
08:35I stopped watching that stuff years ago because I was watching too much of it.
08:40I decided one day it's not actually good for my equilibrium and it stopped and I'm pretty stubborn.
08:46However, since now and then, when your videos leaked from your Thousand Men marathon, I must have been sent maybe
08:54a hundred different clips of you.
08:57The same clip over and over, but from a hundred different people onto my WhatsApp.
09:01So it was very hard to avoid.
09:03So I've now seen you in your element and I mean, not that you're asking for me to critique the
09:09whole scene, but I found it utterly repulsive.
09:12And I thought...
09:13That's what I went to at night.
09:15This is what I want to ask you.
09:16It made me feel physically sick and I wanted to fucking smash them blokes in the mouth, some of them.
09:21That's terrible.
09:21Well, I don't know.
09:23It'd be interesting to see what people think in the comments.
09:25Yeah.
09:25So there's a whole few questions wrapped up in here.
09:28Yeah.
09:28To me, it just looked like a mass room full of disrespect.
09:31I know that you consent and that you're...
09:33But I just think, do these men respect themselves?
09:35Do you respect the men?
09:36Was there any of them that repulsed you because there was all shapes and sizes?
09:40Some of them are fucking gross.
09:41They're not gross.
09:42Everyone's got different shapes and sizes.
09:43And I've said before, I used to hate fat people.
09:45I was like, you know what?
09:46They're lazy.
09:47They're disgusting.
09:48Whatever else.
09:48And then I started to meet fat people and certain subscribers that was larger.
09:54And they would say, you know what?
09:55I have got children.
09:57Work's really manic.
09:58I don't have time to go to the gym anymore.
09:59And I started to realise a body shape doesn't reflect who somebody is.
10:05And I no longer feel repulsive.
10:07Someone's skinny or fat or small dick, big dick.
10:09Like, I'm really...
10:10What about spotty or if they stink?
10:12You can't help spots.
10:13I still get spots and my skin's sometimes patchy.
10:16And it's not a thing she can help.
10:17As long as you're clean, then...
10:19I mean, everyone can get a bar of soap and a shower.
10:21Like, as long as you're clean and you smell good, then that's all I'm asking for.
10:24Out of those thousand men, did any of them stink?
10:28I mean, the room heavily smelt of cum, so...
10:32What about body odour?
10:33No, there was no...
10:34Honestly...
10:34Bad breath?
10:36Genuinely...
10:36Stinky feet?
10:37No.
10:38I mean, I did suck a few toes, but no, like...
10:41Because...
10:41I mean, everyone's got different fetches, but...
10:44I mean, someone asked for a tit wank and I was thinking,
10:45we're not going to get far with that one.
10:48But everyone is so different.
10:50And they come into me knowing they're going to have sex.
10:52So, they cover themselves in deodorant and aftershave and they're excited.
10:55So, they've had a shower.
10:56It's not like an unexpected one-night stand.
10:58They know it's coming.
11:00Yeah, I'm going to move it slightly dark.
11:02I'm going to give you a concern of mine.
11:03I don't mind BBC.
11:05I know you don't.
11:06Now that I've seen you in action, I know that you're not just all talk.
11:10Like, you...
11:11You go all the way and what you say, I believe to be true.
11:14But I just...
11:15Because I know a lot of people have called bullshit on it logistically.
11:18I get it, though, as well.
11:19Like, why it would be hard to believe.
11:20Or, like, if sometimes, you know, like you said, you met me last time
11:24and you hadn't sort of seen it.
11:25So, you're thinking, okay, how much is she saying this for clicks?
11:27How much is this for views as opposed to true?
11:30But everything I've said in terms of content and the stuff I make,
11:33people are always more amazed afterwards.
11:35Because it makes you intrigued and you go and look for it.
11:36And then you're like, oh, my God, she is serious.
11:40Or whether that makes you more disgusted than me.
11:42Because you're like, she really does get railed.
11:44I fear one day someone's going to murder you.
11:48Do you think?
11:50I think you're a contender.
11:51Have you ever considered that?
11:53It's definitely crossed my mind.
11:55However, the hate I get is from women that are on benefits,
11:59stuck on their sofa, doing fuck all with their life.
12:02Are they going to get up and murder me?
12:04No.
12:04They can barely afford the beans on the plate, let alone a good knife.
12:07I'll tell you where I'm coming from.
12:08Yeah.
12:09The industry you're in will attract lunatics.
12:12Now, those, I mean, any one of those thousand men that participate in that,
12:16for me, like, this is just me.
12:19And you know I'm old school.
12:20We've spoke before.
12:21I think that is one of the most, it's a muggy thing to do.
12:25And when you think, out of those thousand people,
12:28at least 300 of them are going to have a mental health issue.
12:31The stats don't lie.
12:33So you're putting yourself in a room full of people
12:36that you don't know which one is the loose cannon.
12:38And you will get people obsessed over you.
12:41They watch, they're going to fall in love with you.
12:43They're going to watch you and they're going to think that,
12:45there's going to be some people that think you're theirs
12:46because they watch you on the screen.
12:48And the world is getting madder and madder.
12:50And you get the, you know, you get these serial killers
12:52that have got women issues and they hated their mum
12:55and they go on a prostitute killing spree.
12:57I just think the way you're putting yourself out there,
12:59I feel one day somebody could target you and take your life.
13:02I think if we didn't live in such a dangerous society,
13:06I'd agree with you, but it's honestly more dangerous
13:08if I were just to walk down the street nowadays
13:10and have a nice watch on or have a bit of money.
13:14So me putting myself out there doesn't put me at any more risk
13:17than the average girl.
13:18You know, walking home after a night out, if you're a girl,
13:20or if you walk in a nice area and you've got a nice watch on,
13:23like it is dangerous regardless.
13:26And I just think, surely I'd be a bit of a headache to murder.
13:28I've got too many cameras on me.
13:29Yeah, but if someone's going to take someone's life,
13:31they don't really care about the consequences.
13:32And it weren't so much sort of agreeing with me.
13:34Yeah.
13:35Because I'm not here to argue with you at all,
13:37but I'm just, I'm curious as to how you feel about things
13:41and how you perceive the world
13:42because you live a very different life to other people.
13:44So it's more like getting in your head thinking,
13:46do you ever sit there and think,
13:48I'm kind of playing with fire here?
13:50No, I do.
13:51I always go out and I've got with security
13:53or I've got someone from my team with me.
13:56So obviously, yes, it crosses my mind.
13:57And I know it's not overly safe for me
13:59just to be out and about by myself.
14:01But it's also just to help, like when I'm out,
14:03I'm really lucky that people come up,
14:05say hi and get photos and so on.
14:07So it's more just to always protect myself
14:09and be overly careful.
14:11But no, I have never been concerned as such
14:15for my safety or being murdered.
14:17You're quite fearless on the whole, aren't you?
14:19Nothing, nothing fazes you.
14:21You could get hit by a bus tomorrow.
14:23Like what is the point in sitting and worrying?
14:24Like so much bad things can happen
14:26and you could sort of pre-empt a lot of things.
14:28But why live life like that?
14:29Why live life thinking,
14:31oh, what if this happens?
14:32What if that happens?
14:33See, what I've seen in you,
14:35there'll be a lot of people that haven't seen in you
14:36because this is now the second time
14:38that we've sat opposite each other for a length of time.
14:40I know that you're a nice person.
14:42Yeah.
14:42We spoke in the green room.
14:44You've come with two male colleagues today.
14:46They speak well about you.
14:47So I know the core of you is nice.
14:50But the work you do, I think for me, is ugly.
14:52Yeah.
14:53Everyone's got their opinion on sex work.
14:54I'm not judging you as a person,
14:56but the work concerns me
14:57because I think it's very dangerous for a lot of reasons.
15:01But because I know that there's, you know,
15:03you're not just this rampant, shocking sex machine
15:07that's on a mission to plough through the rest of the world.
15:09You kind of are.
15:10But what about a family one day?
15:12What would your ideal man be?
15:15And also, do you ever think to yourself,
15:19is my ideal going to want someone like me that's had my past?
15:25Yeah.
15:25Obviously, I know dating is going to be difficult for me
15:28and I've got a past and there's no hiding that.
15:31The ideal guy would be someone that's outdoorsy.
15:34They're not glued to their phone
15:36and really bothered about social media.
15:39They've got to have fun.
15:40I don't want someone that's like,
15:41hey, let's go for a fancy meal tonight.
15:42I prefer someone to say,
15:44let's just go and do something different.
15:46Let's go and be active.
15:48And the main part in that,
15:50they're going to have to accept my job.
15:51So if you found love,
15:53would you still continue with the Bonnie Blue mission?
15:56Yeah.
15:57And what is your mission?
15:59It isn't like a set mission, I'd say.
16:01I just want to stay happy.
16:02And that's the biggest thing.
16:04I'm not saying,
16:04oh, my mission in life is to do 10,000
16:08or my mission in life is to do X, Y, and Z.
16:11I just want to stay happy.
16:13And it's as simple as that.
16:15And I think when you don't overcomplicate things,
16:17that's when you're truly happy
16:18because you're not chasing something.
16:20Yes, at the moment, I'll plan events
16:22and I have things in the near future.
16:23But long term,
16:25I haven't got a clue what's going to happen.
16:26As long as I'm happy today,
16:28next week and next month,
16:29the rest will work itself out.
16:31And if at any point I'm unhappy,
16:32I'll stop.
16:33And I think you mentioned,
16:35obviously, you found my work,
16:36you know, disgusting, whatever,
16:37and that's completely okay.
16:39More people are actually disgusted in me
16:42in the fact I'm okay
16:43and they want me to be traumatized
16:45and they want me to be upset.
16:47And the fact I'm not
16:48is what shocks people the most.
16:49People are actually coming to terms
16:51with sex workers a lot more
16:52and a lot more sex workers are respected.
16:54But because I come across normal,
16:58well, somewhat normal,
16:59then I talk about what I do
17:00and the way I talk about it.
17:02That's when people are really
17:03sort of disgusted in me.
17:05Well, you are dead behind the eyes.
17:07Everyone says this.
17:08Do you think I am?
17:09Yeah.
17:09Oh, okay.
17:10I mean, when you're talking about
17:12sleeping with a thousand men,
17:13it's as if you're an air hostess
17:14telling somebody
17:15where the emergency exit is.
17:16Chicken or beef.
17:17Yeah.
17:17So a lot of people,
17:18I think,
17:19think you're possibly a sociopath.
17:22Yeah.
17:22Or there's definitely
17:23a personality disorder
17:24in there somewhere.
17:25I mean, in my opinion,
17:26I've got nice eyes.
17:27I'm not saying they're not nice,
17:29but I'm just saying
17:29there's like a zero fucks.
17:31I'm looking right through you.
17:33Give me your best shot.
17:34I'm not fazed, kind of.
17:35I think,
17:36even though I know
17:37this is going to be
17:37a positive interview,
17:38I always,
17:39you probably notice
17:40a slight difference
17:41to my composure
17:42to when I'm sat out there
17:43to when I'm in here.
17:43Like,
17:44I always have to defend myself
17:45to a certain degree.
17:47And I don't want to attack you either.
17:48No, no, no.
17:48I know you're not.
17:49I know this is like it.
17:50This is coming from a good place
17:51as well.
17:51For sure.
17:51Because I don't want you dead one day
17:53and I also don't want
17:54young girls following
17:55in your footsteps
17:56with the greatest respect.
17:57See,
17:58I'm more than happy
17:58for girls to follow
17:59in my footsteps
18:00as long as they understand,
18:02hey, look,
18:02I get death threats.
18:03Hey,
18:03I get banned from places
18:05without even doing anything wrong.
18:06Like,
18:07I think it's more than okay
18:08for people to follow
18:09in my footsteps
18:09as long as they're strong enough.
18:11Like,
18:11a lot of people,
18:12both mentally and physically,
18:13aren't strong enough
18:14when they do it
18:15because they say
18:15I live a beautiful life
18:16and I earn a lot of money
18:17and they think,
18:18okay,
18:18I'll do that.
18:19It's not as easy as that.
18:20Like,
18:21mentally and physically,
18:21I'm very strong
18:23and that's why I'm okay
18:25and I'm able to do things.
18:26But anyone that was to copy me,
18:29go for it.
18:30But mentally and physically,
18:31you need to be ready
18:32for what's to come.
18:33I think people will struggle
18:34and I'm going to talk about
18:35someone copying you
18:36after we go back to,
18:38is there any concerns
18:39or fears
18:41or worries,
18:42any trepidation you're in
18:43where you think to yourself,
18:45one day I'm going to find a man
18:46that I really want
18:47and he's not going to want me
18:49because of what I'm doing.
18:50And how important is love to you
18:52and how important would that nest
18:54be for you?
18:55I generally don't think
18:56I'd ever be in that situation
18:57because for me to love them
19:00and for them to love me,
19:01you've clearly been speaking
19:02for a long time.
19:03You've got to know each other.
19:04You've been dating
19:04for X amount of time.
19:06So they would have already
19:07known what I've done.
19:08They would already know my history
19:09and what I do for work.
19:10So I'm never going to get
19:11to that stage where I'm like,
19:12oh my gosh,
19:13I'm in love with this person
19:15but now he doesn't want me
19:16to do this job.
19:16So I'm never going to get
19:17to that point where I'm like,
19:19do I choose love or the job?
19:20Because they come together
19:22and they'll be always together.
19:24I admire your optimism, Bonnie.
19:26Lily Phillips.
19:27Maybe like five years from now
19:28we can see if I'm still single.
19:29Well, I'd like you to come back
19:31every year until you stop this.
19:32Yeah, I would like that.
19:34Because I think you could be
19:35anything you want to be
19:36because you're very determined
19:37and I've never seen focus like it.
19:40Yeah.
19:41Maybe you could get into acting
19:42or I just think there's something
19:44more you could be doing than this.
19:45I'd like to do more.
19:48Like I'm very much into fashion
19:50and like there's a few
19:51other interests and hobbies
19:52but at the moment this is,
19:54I guess, my main hobby
19:55so this takes up all my time
19:57but I think gradually over the years,
20:00you know, I may do additional things
20:01but this will always be my,
20:03I don't know,
20:04your go-to.
20:05Yeah.
20:05Yeah.
20:06So Lily Phillips,
20:07you spoke about competition.
20:08Yeah.
20:08There must be competition
20:09with you and Lily Phillips
20:10because you kind of pull off
20:11the same sort of stunts.
20:12You both pretended to be pregnant
20:13at the same time.
20:14You both pretended to be arrested
20:15at the same time.
20:17Are you in competition
20:18with each other?
20:19What are your views on Lily Phillips?
20:20Do you like Lily Phillips?
20:21Is there something
20:22that I need to know about her?
20:24No, I don't like her
20:24and no, I'm not in competition.
20:26I don't think she is competition.
20:29No.
20:29With the greatest respect
20:31and I'll tell you for why.
20:33Yeah.
20:33And I wouldn't normally speak
20:35about back office stuff
20:37in an interview
20:38but you've had
20:40the courage and conviction
20:41to sit opposite me
20:42twice now
20:43and you know
20:44that I'm not going to sit here
20:45and create a safe space
20:46and say this is great,
20:47good on you.
20:48I'm going to challenge you
20:49because this is kind of...
20:52It'd be boring
20:53if we were sat there going,
20:54oh my God,
20:54yes, this is amazing.
20:55You want a conversation.
20:56And it's just a bizarre thing
20:57that I think you're doing
20:58but I'm still fascinated by it
21:00and this is what this show
21:01is all about.
21:01You know,
21:01I want all walks of life
21:03and I don't want to shy away
21:04from conversations
21:05and I don't care about people saying,
21:06why are you platforming her?
21:08Let me just tell my audience now.
21:09Better mind,
21:09you will get that.
21:10Oh, of course I will.
21:11You'll get people discussing you
21:12but you can be interested in something.
21:14It doesn't mean you agree with it
21:16but you can find it intriguing.
21:17I'm also talking
21:18to the most famous person
21:19in the UK.
21:20You're platforming me.
21:22But let's go back
21:22to Lily Phillips.
21:23Yeah.
21:24And the door is still open
21:26for Lily.
21:27Yeah.
21:27We've been messed around
21:28with interviews with her
21:30and I hope she sees this actually.
21:31So fuck it,
21:32I'm going to go with it
21:33because stop messing people about
21:35and you've asked,
21:37she's asked to come on.
21:38Yeah.
21:39We've agreed,
21:40I think maybe six times.
21:42There's a paper trail for that
21:44and every time she either goes
21:47or her agent goes silent
21:48or can we do,
21:49there's just a load of fucking around
21:51and I believe that's because
21:52when we replied to her request
21:55to come on,
21:55my guest book,
21:56I said be prepared
21:57to be challenged
21:58because I have to.
22:00Yeah, 100%.
22:00Like I said,
22:01it's boring if not.
22:02But I think that she's swerved me
22:04and gone on other ones
22:05that are going to be more
22:06soft on her
22:07and so I do respect the fact
22:09that you know
22:09that I'm going to challenge you
22:10on what you're doing
22:11and you've still agreed
22:13and you've turned up both times
22:14and you've been very pleasant
22:15and you've not taken umbrage
22:17to any of my line of questioning.
22:19You've been very forthcoming.
22:20Yeah.
22:21So yeah,
22:22so for me,
22:22I think fair play to that.
22:23Yeah,
22:24I think the reason
22:25I'm more than happy
22:25to do either a debate
22:27or answer difficult questions
22:29is because
22:29you can't trip me up.
22:31I honestly love what I do.
22:33I've never been upset.
22:34I don't ever come across traumatized.
22:37I genuinely believe
22:38whether you think
22:38it's disgusting or not,
22:39happy to have the conversation
22:40but I think it's beautiful
22:41and I'm really proud
22:42of the work I do.
22:43However,
22:44if that's not how you feel,
22:45if that's not how you think,
22:46you're going to trip up.
22:47You're going to be affected
22:48by the questions
22:49and you're not always going to be able
22:50to answer them amazingly.
22:52But I don't have to prepare
22:53when I do interviews
22:54or podcasts
22:55because all I'm sharing
22:57is my opinion,
22:57how I believe things are
22:59and my enjoyment
23:01and you can't trip me up on that
23:02whereas for other people
23:04that's not always the case.
23:06So yes,
23:06you avoid the difficult questions.
23:08And why don't you like Lily Phillips?
23:10Everything I do,
23:11a few hours later,
23:12she does the same
23:13and obviously it becomes boring
23:14and it's fine.
23:16I'm the one with the views
23:17and the name
23:17but obviously
23:19we're in the same industry.
23:20I wish nothing but the best
23:21and it's not ever nice
23:22to see someone traumatized
23:24but yeah,
23:26I just think
23:26surely there's
23:27a few brain cells
23:29to think of your own ideas.
23:30If she's copying you
23:31and also I don't want to encourage
23:33any hate going to Lily Phillips either
23:35although I would like to sit down
23:36with her and discuss
23:37a line of work and behaviour
23:39like I am with Bonnie.
23:40Yeah.
23:41I wonder if she approached me
23:42to come on the show
23:43because she's seen
23:44that you've been on it
23:44and done very well.
23:46You know,
23:46it could be.
23:47It's a possibility, isn't it?
23:47It could be the case.
23:48Obviously,
23:48you've got a good podcast
23:49but yeah,
23:50very much if I do something
23:51a week later,
23:51she's also doing it
23:53which is fine.
23:54I always say
23:55I don't know how more people
23:56don't copy.
23:56I give a lot of sex workers
23:58a clear blueprint
23:59on how to be successful
24:00with your marketing,
24:01how to present yourself
24:02but the other reason
24:05why I guess people don't copy
24:06is because I clearly enjoy it
24:07and I wouldn't want people
24:08to try and copy
24:09and put themselves
24:09in hospital left bleeding
24:11which other people have done.
24:13Like,
24:13you've got to do it
24:14if it's right for you
24:15mentally and physically.
24:16I heard you say
24:17that you would engage
24:19in a full-blown gang
24:21even if you were pregnant.
24:23Now,
24:23did you mean that fucking madness
24:24or was that just a marketing
24:26shock and awe
24:26get your attention?
24:28No,
24:28I honestly would.
24:29As long as it's safe
24:30for the baby and myself,
24:31100% I would.
24:32Come on.
24:33I would.
24:34No,
24:34come on.
24:35This is now,
24:36we're going into
24:37fucking insane territory here.
24:38This is like the father and son
24:40sleeping with each other.
24:40People love like
24:41pregnancy content.
24:43Yeah,
24:43but what about
24:44your baby that's grown
24:45inside your belly?
24:46That's what I mean.
24:47I'd have to have like a doctor
24:48and I'd have to be checked
24:49before and afterwards.
24:50A bit like exercise.
24:51That's not my concern.
24:52If you want to do
24:52certain exercise,
24:53you have to check with the doctor
24:54to say,
24:54hey,
24:55is this okay?
24:55I'm pregnant.
24:56Mine would be the exact same.
24:57Having sex,
24:59just because it might be
24:59with 100 guys
25:00as opposed to one guy.
25:03What's the difference?
25:04If I was pregnant,
25:04I went,
25:05oh my God,
25:05me and my husband
25:06have got such a healthy
25:07sex relationship.
25:08Well,
25:08healthy sort of sex life.
25:10We had sex like 10 hours yesterday.
25:12You wouldn't be like,
25:14oh my gosh,
25:15you're insane.
25:15You're a psychopath.
25:16But just because
25:17that's going to be
25:18different cocks
25:18going inside of me,
25:19suddenly it's an issue.
25:21Yeah,
25:21you're not comparing
25:22lemons with lemons here.
25:23What about the baby?
25:24When that baby grows up
25:26and becomes an adult human being
25:27that knows
25:28that when she was
25:29or he
25:30was in your belly,
25:31you were being rowed
25:32by 100 men.
25:34Does that not concern you?
25:35The fact that your child
25:36would look back
25:37and think,
25:37you fucking animal,
25:39what were you doing?
25:39They might not like it.
25:41But would that not bother you?
25:43Your own child
25:43not liking you for doing that?
25:45I mean,
25:45no matter if I am lucky enough
25:47to have children,
25:48they are going to get hate
25:49and they are going to get picked on.
25:51But are they going to get gang
25:51when they're growing in your belly?
25:53No,
25:53I mean,
25:54not everyone can have a mum
25:55that's bonnie blue.
25:55Like it's,
25:56there's going to be pros and cons,
25:58you know,
25:58if I have children.
25:59But what I can say
26:01is that my children
26:02will have a beautiful life.
26:03They'll have brilliant health care.
26:05They will spend quality time with me.
26:07They won't be shipped off
26:08to childcare
26:08and someone else drop them off
26:10and pick them up from school.
26:12Most parents
26:13can't spend a lot of time
26:13with their children
26:14because they've got to work
26:15and,
26:16you know,
26:16it's expensive.
26:17You can't not work.
26:18Well,
26:18I mean,
26:18a lot of people don't work,
26:20but.
26:20What about the humiliation
26:21they would have to live with
26:22knowing that when you was pregnant,
26:24when you was carrying them,
26:25you was having sex
26:26with multiple men on camera?
26:27Because you know
26:28that would humiliate them.
26:29Well,
26:29I don't necessarily think
26:30it would humiliate them,
26:31but I'd have to educate them a lot
26:33and I would tell them
26:33from a young,
26:34early age,
26:35hey,
26:35this is what I do.
26:36This is my line of work.
26:37But I also haven't thought
26:38that far ahead.
26:40Like I said,
26:40I think about short-term happiness.
26:42I'm not saying
26:42I completely dismiss long-term,
26:44but I lived a life
26:46for many,
26:47many years
26:47where I was so fixated on,
26:49oh,
26:49I'll be happier in a few years.
26:50I'll be happy in five years.
26:51I'll be happy in 10 years
26:52when I'm married
26:53and I've got a house
26:54and a couple of children.
26:55And then you realise
26:56you dismiss your day-to-day happiness
26:58all the time.
26:58It's sort of just like a,
26:59oh yeah,
27:00whatever.
27:00I'm working hard today
27:01to live a better life tomorrow.
27:03And then that tomorrow
27:05suddenly is like
27:05five,
27:0610 years down the line.
27:07So I'm not sat here thinking,
27:09oh,
27:09if I do have children,
27:11what are they going to think
27:12or what's going to happen?
27:13And I might not even have children
27:14when I'm older.
27:15Would you like to have children
27:17and do you think
27:17you'll be a good mother?
27:18I think I'd be a brilliant mother
27:20and I'm not sure of children.
27:22You're not sure if you want them?
27:23So before,
27:24100%,
27:25I was obsessed with the idea
27:26of having children
27:27from such a young age.
27:28I used to be a dance teacher
27:29and I loved teaching
27:31like children
27:32and having,
27:32you know,
27:33just being around them.
27:34I'd always want to babysit.
27:35I'd always want to look after them.
27:36Can you conceive children?
27:38I'd have to go through IVF.
27:40So I did try with my partner
27:41for a couple of years
27:42and I wasn't successful.
27:43And that was a really tough time.
27:45So when all the rumours
27:46started coming out
27:47that I was pregnant,
27:48I was like,
27:49the papers don't even understand
27:50and social media
27:50doesn't even understand
27:51that I can't fall pregnant naturally.
27:53So all these rumours were bullshit.
27:55I mean,
27:55yeah,
27:56I uploaded a photo,
27:57one photo on my Instagram story
27:58with a pickle
27:59saying cravings.
28:00That was all I did
28:01because the papers
28:03for about five days prior
28:04had gone,
28:05Bonnie Blue's pregnant.
28:06On TikTok,
28:07it was going viral
28:07and same on Twitter.
28:09And I was like,
28:09you know,
28:09once again,
28:10looking at my body
28:11or just assuming I'm pregnant
28:13because I've had sex
28:13with a lot of men,
28:15not even knowing the full story.
28:16And I'm not saying people should,
28:18but...
28:19What would need to happen
28:19in your life
28:20for you to want to try
28:22for a baby again
28:23and go through IVF?
28:24Obviously meeting someone.
28:25I mean,
28:26it might be that in the future
28:27I'd want to adopt
28:28or just have children by myself.
28:30That's also fine.
28:32It depends.
28:33If I met someone
28:33and they also sort of wanted children
28:35and we felt it was the right time
28:36in our life
28:37and we was happy
28:37and that was what we wanted to do,
28:40then that.
28:40But like I said,
28:41I also am not too bothered.
28:43If it happens,
28:44it happens.
28:45And what message
28:46do you think you're sending out
28:47to young girls?
28:49On the whole.
28:50On the whole.
28:53I think I live by a life
28:55and people are starting to see it.
28:56Just don't care.
28:57Don't care about people's judgment.
28:58Don't ever not do something
28:59because you're worried about
29:01what someone's going to say about you,
29:02what someone at high school
29:03is going to put in the group chat.
29:04And that's genuinely what I believe
29:06and I think that's the best message
29:07someone can take from me.
29:08I'm not saying sleep with a thousand people.
29:10I'm not saying I'm the best role model,
29:12but I don't care about being that.
29:14But I do want people,
29:15whether that's women,
29:17men,
29:18girls,
29:18boys,
29:19live a life that makes you happy.
29:21Don't be comparing yourself.
29:22Don't be trying to do something
29:24just so someone says
29:25something positive about you
29:25because you will get old
29:27and regret living
29:28by someone's judgment
29:30and not doing what you want to do in life.
29:32What's your date of birth?
29:331405, 1999.
29:35I said it quick.
29:35You answered immediately.
29:36That probably clears that up.
29:38A lot of people,
29:39when you've done my last podcast,
29:40no way she's 24,
29:41no way she's 25.
29:42I've always been very mature for my age
29:44in terms of my mindset
29:45and I think you even switched on this prior.
29:47I've got a very...
29:49You're an old soul.
29:50Yeah.
29:51The way I speak and the way I am,
29:53but no, I'm 26.
29:55I mean, apparently I'm transgender as well,
29:57so we can add that one to the list.
29:59Are you a man?
30:00No.
30:00Were you born a man?
30:01No.
30:02Okay.
30:03Are you sure?
30:04Positive.
30:05Okay, so that's that cleared up.
30:06That's that one cleared up.
30:08But yeah, there's so many rumours
30:09and one of the biggest hate comments I get is,
30:11oh, she's 46.
30:12And I'm really not bothered by it though
30:14because I'm like,
30:14fair enough, okay, you think I look old,
30:16but for me, I've got good skin.
30:17I think I'm in shape.
30:20I'm happy and healthy.
30:21So what more could I ask for?
30:22Where do you draw the line
30:25with your boundary pushing?
30:26I mean, what's your next stunt
30:27and where do you draw the line?
30:30I mean, A Thousand Men's Outrageous.
30:32You had Dilly Phillips doing 50 Men in the Back Door.
30:34You had her walking around the streets of London
30:36with a spunk all over her face.
30:38It's just like, fucking, what are you girls doing?
30:40But where, is there a line that you won't cross?
30:43I mean, you did say that you wouldn't sleep
30:44with illegal migrants, which I was delighted to hear.
30:46Oh, thank you.
30:47Yes.
30:48Well done, Bonnie.
30:49Give it a good shake.
30:52You've always got to slip something like that in there.
30:54Yeah, you can slip it in.
30:57As long as it's legal, I always say.
30:59As long as it's legal, I'll give it a go.
31:01No limits.
31:02Well, I do have limits.
31:03I don't do Back Door.
31:04But my next event is on the 9th of August.
31:06I'm really looking forward to that one.
31:07Tell me about that.
31:09I want to welcome all shapes and sizes
31:12and all ages above 18
31:14to come and let me check their balls out.
31:17So it's going to be me and two official doctors.
31:20And we're going to be checking for testicular cancer.
31:22But I say we.
31:23I'm going to be busy using my holes in other ways.
31:25But there's going to be a massive benefit from the event
31:27because people can be checked for testicular cancer.
31:31And how does this end
31:34after they've had their testicles checked?
31:36Well, hopefully everyone's fit and healthy.
31:38But if not, I'll be putting them in contact with doctors
31:40and we can see if we can help.
31:44Is there something additional to the testicle checks
31:47that you'll be doing on the day?
31:49Yeah, I mean, my holes are going to be used for sure.
31:52Okay, so there is that twist to it again.
31:54I can't see thousands of men and not have my holes used.
31:57I mean, what's the point in having them?
31:59Exactly.
32:00My first ever event was meant to be a bukkake.
32:02A bukkake where it's just a blowjob.
32:04And just before the event started, there were 75 guys.
32:07And I was like, hold on a second.
32:09Why can't I fuck her?
32:10Like, why can't I just get bent over instead?
32:12So, whatever I say, even if I say it's just going to be a handjob or blowjob,
32:18the next minute you leave the room, you come back in and I bent over
32:21and all the holes are being used.
32:22Do you respect women on the whole?
32:26Yes and no.
32:27It's a difficult one.
32:28Like, you know when I said people try to say it's one or the other?
32:30With women, it's not that I disrespect her.
32:33But when I get hate, sometimes I look at where the hate's coming from.
32:37And as a whole, it's fat, lazy women that sat on benefits.
32:41The buyer says stay-at-home mum of two.
32:43No problem with that.
32:44But don't tell me I've took women back hundreds of years.
32:46What was the point of you even trying to argue a good salary?
32:49You don't even fucking work.
32:51So, it's not that I hate women at all.
32:54But do I think women a lot of time are lazy, emotional,
32:57expect too much from men and then say they want things equal?
33:00But best believe they aren't paying for that dinner bill
33:02or they're not going to be opening the door for you.
33:04So, let's not say things are completely equal and you want things equal
33:07because do women go to work more in the men's day at home?
33:11No.
33:12They expect things to be paid for.
33:14And that's where it really frustrates me with women
33:16that they pretend they want things equal.
33:19But their work ethic is pathetic.
33:22What about you?
33:24Do you respect yourself?
33:26Yeah, 100%.
33:28That's going to come as a shock, I know.
33:30But I think it's more disrespectful if I had let myself stay in a recruitment job
33:35or office job or any sort of job of such,
33:40worked 40, 50 hours a week for 20 days annual leave
33:43for a salary that is restricted by someone.
33:47And you have to ask, if you need to go to the doctors,
33:49you need to book it as a day of annual leave.
33:50And you live this most generic life.
33:52And you can't really create anything too beautiful within those restrictions.
33:56That, I think, is more disrespectful than what I do now.
33:59Do you ever cry?
34:01Sometimes, but not really.
34:02What makes you sad?
34:05Most recently, my divorce.
34:06So my divorce should be sorted in August.
34:09And it's emotional.
34:10It's hard.
34:11And I think anyone that's been through a divorce
34:12or even breakup, for that matter, will say it's difficult.
34:15Me and my partner have been separated for well over a year now.
34:19But the divorce just sort of finalises, this is the end of an era.
34:22This is the end of it.
34:24And they're thinking about growing old together.
34:26And they're thinking about having children together.
34:28And, you know, them conversations you have, you know,
34:31signing the divorce papers make you realise, okay, that's over.
34:35Do you still love him?
34:36Oh, I always love him.
34:37Yeah.
34:38I saw that he was on your Channel 4 documentary.
34:41Yeah.
34:41And I thought to myself, he's either the ultimate simp or the ultimate pimp.
34:47Which one is he?
34:48Neither.
34:49He is a really sweet guy.
34:50I'm really grateful to have spent 10 years with him.
34:55And it's funny, like, now, I always thought,
34:57how can people stay friends when they break up?
34:59But I'm in a position where, I've said this before,
35:03the last few years of our relationship, we probably should have separated.
35:05But we'd become so comfortable with each other.
35:08We'd been together so long.
35:09So naturally, you just get used to it.
35:11And we love each other, but we're not in love with each other.
35:14And I think for many couples and many people that have been in long-term relationships,
35:18confuse the two.
35:19And it's so easily done.
35:21But I was brave enough and confident enough
35:25that I was going to be independent and be able to separate.
35:28Do you think you'll ever be able to love again?
35:31Yeah, 100%.
35:32I'm not traumatised.
35:34I've had a brilliant upbringing.
35:36My job, I've never been forced into something.
35:39Everything I do is my decision.
35:40And now I'm in complete control.
35:41So I do believe I can love again.
35:43I only ask that because I know how hard it is,
35:46certainly for me, to love somebody.
35:48Yeah.
35:48And I couldn't even imagine loving somebody new.
35:53I mean, the idea of even dating now, it's scary.
35:56You know, I've met someone and I thought I was going to be with them
35:59for the rest of my life.
36:00And that's not the case.
36:01And I've realised you didn't always get this fairytale ending.
36:03But as long as I'm happy, we did get our fairytale ending.
36:06We got married.
36:07We spent a lovely amount of time together.
36:09We relocated to Australia.
36:10We went on beautiful holidays.
36:11We've got three amazing pets.
36:14So we did have our fairytale.
36:16That was one chapter.
36:17Oh, 100%.
36:18You were stay friends?
36:19Yeah.
36:20He actually sent me a text on the way here.
36:22I said, did you watch the documentary last night?
36:24And he said, do you want my honest opinion?
36:26And I said, yes.
36:26And I thought, fucking hell.
36:28He's going on me now.
36:30And he was like, I've never been more proud of you.
36:34I can't remember what the message said, but I can show you after.
36:36It was just like a, I'm really proud.
36:38I thought it was amazing.
36:39And what were Channel 4 like?
36:40Because they're normally like a big left-leaning.
36:42I mean, I can't believe they went there.
36:44What were they like?
36:45Good timing with the age restrictions, wasn't it?
36:47Sticking that out.
36:47Yes.
36:48Funny how all these things seem to be orchestrated.
36:51But yeah, what were they like?
36:53Difficult.
36:54Woke?
36:55Well, they can't be woke if they're platforming you.
36:57No, I'd say, I mean, I've never done TV like this before.
37:00I've never done a documentary.
37:01I've never had someone follow me for so long.
37:05It wasn't, when I say difficult, it wasn't always their fault.
37:07I didn't realise the amount of restrictions there is when you're filming.
37:10I thought everywhere I go, they can just follow me.
37:12They have to get the sign-up from the council,
37:13or they have to have the go-ahead from the owners of a property.
37:17And it really was hard.
37:19I wanted it to be a, you follow me a lot more than what they did.
37:22And also, they didn't realise how busy I was going to be.
37:25They started filming in December.
37:27Since then, I've done, God knows how many gangsters.
37:31I've visited probably five, six plus countries.
37:34I've done Spring Break.
37:34I did a thousand men.
37:36I did a hundred-man live stream.
37:38I don't know.
37:39They filmed so much, and that was all tried to be crammed
37:41within like a 60-minute documentary.
37:43So there's a lot that wasn't, you know, wasn't shown.
37:47But there's also some things that were shown,
37:48and, you know, I think it was quite, I guess, wrong to show.
37:55I'll have to watch it.
37:56I did start watching it in preparation for today.
37:58Yeah.
37:58But I just, I've got so many things.
38:00The whole thing's like a porno.
38:01So I didn't realise.
38:03Oh, they've gone there, have they?
38:04Oh, my God.
38:05The whole thing, like, get your box of tissues ready.
38:07I didn't realise you could show that amount of sex.
38:10And there's been multiple articles that have gone out sort of last night
38:13and today saying there's never been a documentary or TV show
38:16to show that amount of sex on British TV.
38:19It must be in the second half because I started watching it
38:21and I didn't see any of that.
38:22It must be later on in the documentary.
38:24A lot of sex in there.
38:25Do you get celebrities slipping in your DMs?
38:28All the time.
38:29Can we name a few of them?
38:30No.
38:30How many of them have upset you and you think,
38:32I'm going to get my own back on you?
38:33Oh, definitely not upset me, but...
38:35Movie stars, football players, what's the worst type of celebrity that...
38:39Oh, gosh.
38:40I'd probably say, like, singers or rappers.
38:42Like, oh, come on, let me take you backstage.
38:44Let me...
38:45They try and offer things, but they definitely want a blowjob in return.
38:48And I actually did go meet a sort of singer-rapper
38:52when I was over in the States.
38:54And it was more meant to be like a, let's share content.
38:57Let's...
38:58Not share content, but let's do some social media.
39:00Like, I wasn't expecting them to be in a sex tape,
39:02nor was I expecting they wanted sex.
39:04But I went into that quite naively.
39:06And it was like, oh, let's have a little tour
39:08of the building.
39:10And the next minute, they're expecting sex.
39:13The extras.
39:14If Snoop Dogg DM'd you asking for a blowjob,
39:17would you oblige?
39:17No.
39:18I don't care about your followers or your money.
39:22I don't want your money, and I don't need your followers.
39:26If Snoop Dogg wanted to make a sex tape with me
39:28and show his face, 100%, I'll be on my knees in no time.
39:31But if you're wanting just to have sex with me off camera
39:33and keep it a secret, then, what do I gain from that?
39:36Why did you get banned from OnlyFans?
39:38I mean, how on earth do OnlyFans even ban people?
39:41The reason I was singled out was apparently for dangerous...
39:45I forget the exact words.
39:46It was like dangerous activity.
39:49But what I was doing was not dangerous.
39:50It was consensual.
39:51And who are they to say, you can't do that?
39:53It's dangerous.
39:55Or have communication with me.
39:56And I was given a formal warning before the official ban
39:59for something I never even did.
40:01It was another content creator.
40:02And it was seriously concerning that they can get me confused
40:05with someone else when I platform that deal
40:09with such sensitive content.
40:10Are they big payers, OnlyFans?
40:13I earn a lot of money on OnlyFans, yeah.
40:15Did that just stop overnight?
40:17Yeah.
40:18How did that affect you?
40:19Because I think you're probably driven by the money.
40:21I genuinely took it really well.
40:23I saw the email to say, I'm permanently banned.
40:26And I was like, okay, cool.
40:28Actually, I could see it coming.
40:30Because there was more and more restrictions.
40:33And I was like, I can't imagine OnlyFans being my long-term platform.
40:37And as and when these restrictions were building up,
40:40I was like, sort of knew I needed to make the move.
40:42But it's like if you need to move house,
40:44you sort of can't be bothered.
40:45It's a lot of work and you just think, okay, I'll stay where I am
40:47until you're sort of forced or you're given a natural reason to move.
40:51So when I got the email to say I was banned,
40:53I sort of took it really well.
40:55Of course, I was frustrated.
40:57I'd lost so many subscribers that I've built such an amazing relationship with.
41:01And suddenly, I can't get hold of him.
41:03I can't speak to him.
41:04And yeah, it was a concern.
41:06You took it on the chin.
41:08Yeah.
41:09Let me go back to them men that line up and do lascivious things with you.
41:13What does that word mean?
41:15It just means very highly sexual.
41:18Oh, okay.
41:18How do you perceive these men?
41:20You see, for me, I made no bones about it.
41:22Like, those thousand men that all lined up to have their wicked way with you.
41:27Yeah.
41:28If my son was one of those.
41:30How old is your son?
41:31He's 18.
41:33Just my type.
41:34I'd brain him.
41:36I would say, what the fuck are you doing?
41:38You're mugging yourself off.
41:39Well, you can join him.
41:40Then you can watch, see what he's getting up to.
41:42We know how weird that is, Bonnie.
41:44Let's not pretend.
41:44It's not weird.
41:45But when you look at these men, is there any part of you, any part of you that thinks
41:50to yourself, you fucking sad plum?
41:53See, I wish I could do a lie detector because when I answer these questions, everyone thinks
41:59I'm marketing myself.
42:00I'm saying it because my subscribers obviously want me to say this.
42:04Or, of course, I'm going to say that because why would I say they're disgusting?
42:08Genuinely, they're not.
42:10And I'd have this conversation with you on and off camera.
42:13I understand why you think that.
42:14I understand.
42:16And I probably even spoke to you last time and before.
42:19These men have all got such a different reason for being there, for wanting to meet me.
42:24Maybe their wife's not sucked them off.
42:25Or maybe they're going through a really down time and they're concerned about their body
42:29appearance.
42:30So them coming to see me is a boost in their confidence.
42:32Or maybe they absolutely adore the wife, but the wife's no longer sexually active.
42:36In that sense.
42:37So they just want to come and see me, have their release and then go back to him.
42:40Like, I don't judge him.
42:42I don't find him disgusting.
42:43And I don't care if they're skinny or fat.
42:45Like, genuinely, I'm not repulsed by him at all.
42:48Okay.
42:48What about Mr. 950?
42:51Yeah.
42:51That's had 949 go before him.
42:54Is there never a moment where you look at him and think, you fucking pathetic man?
42:58No.
42:59I do sometimes feel sorry for him.
43:01I think, fuck, I'm so sorry I'm covered in so much cum.
43:03Because some guys love it.
43:05Nothing worse.
43:05God, the amount of men that will want to clean me up afterwards.
43:09They want to clean my jewellery.
43:11They want to clean my face.
43:13And you don't think these motherfuckers are the saddest individuals you've ever met?
43:17No.
43:17They want to mop other people's spunk off your face?
43:19I love the fact that they know what they enjoy.
43:21I don't know, that's weird.
43:22Would I do it?
43:23No.
43:24Would I go and click?
43:24Because it's not my fetish.
43:26Like, I love other guys come in to clean, like, come off me and it turns me on.
43:31But would I want to go and lick a girl after, you know, five girls have squirted on her face?
43:37Probably not.
43:38Like, you've got to do what suits you and what turns you on.
43:40But at no point have I ever felt disgusted by him.
43:45The only time I've ever kicked someone out, during the thousand, there was a moment where four guys were on
43:51the sofa.
43:51I was being fucked from behind in doggy.
43:54And one of the guys that was lying there with his dick out was like, oh, my God, look at
43:58his.
43:58His is really small.
43:59Oh, my gosh.
44:00And I was like, get out.
44:02Like, instantly got security to make him leave.
44:04Because I was like, everyone's here, whether you think they're disgusting, whatever.
44:08No one is being judged.
44:10I don't want anyone walking away from this feeling insecure, feeling like I was laughed at.
44:15I was judged today.
44:16Because that's one thing I don't do and I never will.
44:19So that's the only time I've been disgusted with someone.
44:21And I was really frustrated that he did that.
44:23I was like, you really let me down there.
44:24Because if you know me and you're a subscriber or you sort of, you could watch me for five minutes
44:29and you realise I genuinely am proud and really passionate about the men that come and see me.
44:35So that really frustrated me.
44:37Well, you may be dead behind the eyes, but there's kindness in there.
44:41I am, as a whole, a very kind, I mean, these words are probably going to make me laugh, like
44:47sweet, innocent and quite shy person sometimes.
44:50So if we went to the pub and I wasn't Bonnie Blue, I'd probably want to speak much.
44:55I'd be like, hi, are you okay?
44:56I hope you had a good day type of thing.
44:57And I'm not, I don't walk in and want all eyes on me.
45:00I don't want all of the attention.
45:01Do you get approached a lot on the street or in public?
45:03Yeah.
45:04I mean, you are mega famous.
45:07Yeah.
45:07I mean, it's so weird.
45:08That word, I never thought my name and the word famous would be linked.
45:13Mega famous.
45:14I know.
45:14It's really weird.
45:15And my family, I walked around the park recently and we got stopped every, literally every five minutes if that.
45:23Everyone was coming over for photos, asking for me to sign things.
45:26And they was just amazed.
45:27And my dad was like, oh my God, this is crazy.
45:30They just see me as Tia.
45:31They just see me as their daughter.
45:33Who is Tia?
45:33Who was Tia?
45:34I mean, I'm still, I'm like, I say now, Tia and Bonnie have crossed a lot.
45:38It originally started off with Bonnie Blue.
45:41I was doing it for money.
45:42I was doing it to better my life.
45:45I didn't enjoy the sex.
45:46Majority of the orgasms were faked.
45:48I didn't even know you could come on camera.
45:50Because I thought, how on earth are you enjoying yourself on camera?
45:52You're so fixated on the positions, the angle, doing a performance.
45:57Then over time, I became a lot more confident in the bedroom that I wasn't as fixated on the cameras.
46:02I wasn't like a, oh my God, there's a camera there.
46:04I need to do this.
46:04And I was more confident in myself.
46:08If it took me longer to come, I didn't feel like, shit, I will just fake it.
46:12You know what?
46:13Okay, you need to go a little bit to the left.
46:14No, stick another finger in.
46:15Can you do this?
46:17And it gradually made it so it became less of a performance and more of a...
46:21A natural thing.
46:23I enjoy this.
46:23Yeah, like some of my sex tape now, I watch my face as I come and I think, God, I
46:27should have faked that one.
46:27I've got like a double chin and you can see me tense and up and shaking.
46:30But that's also sexy.
46:32But like you're having a fit.
46:33Yeah.
46:34Because sometimes I'm like, fuck you.
46:35Now what?
46:36You know, maybe I should have paid a bit more attention to that camera.
46:39But it became less of a act and more of a, okay, this is who I am.
46:44And I'll say things more clicky.
46:46100%.
46:46I know what I'm doing.
46:47We're doing a podcast.
46:48So there were some things I've said.
46:50Would I say if that was just Tia?
46:51No, I'd say in a more long-winded way, but we don't have all day.
46:54So everything I say is bonny is everything I believe is Tia.
46:59I just would.
46:59It's slightly different in more of a short-winded way.
47:02Cut the crap way.
47:03Yeah.
47:04How do you deal with all the hate that you get?
47:07What hate?
47:10I've spotted a little bit.
47:12Just a little bit.
47:15Really doesn't bother me.
47:16And once again, no one's going to believe this.
47:17You just think I'm saying it to say it.
47:19But I believe you.
47:20But the hate is huge to the point where I think it's, I disagree with what you do.
47:27But it doesn't change how I view you as a person because I know that you're kind.
47:32And I'm really sort of a big believer of like, if someone's kind, like see that in them.
47:36Yeah.
47:38And when I see the hate, I think I understand why you're going to be appalled and horrified.
47:43Yeah.
47:43But like, there's a stage where you think, is this now bullying?
47:47Yeah.
47:47I always say, like, I've not debated with you.
47:50I can understand why you think it's disgusting and X, Y, and Z.
47:52And then when I see these comments, I never, I never argue them.
47:56The only time I'm arguing it, argue it when they're like, you should be in prison.
47:59You are a predator.
48:00You are a groomer.
48:01So you're trying to make a statement of something that's not true.
48:03Well, I've seen people wish you dead.
48:04This is what I mean.
48:05Yeah.
48:05So there's one thing me saying, you know, because in a minute I'm going to ask you.
48:10Yeah.
48:10What can I say to make you stop this?
48:12Because I think you could put your fame to better use.
48:14I'm going to come to that.
48:15But when I see people writing in the comments that you should be dead, I think, fucking hell,
48:20that's a bridge too far.
48:21See, they say to me in these comments, I'm going to report you to the police and I cannot
48:24wait to come and murder you.
48:25I cannot wait to come and kill you.
48:26And I'm like, you do realise you're the one in the wrong.
48:29You're the one that just wished someone dead.
48:31What I'm doing, and I have started to notice a bit of a switch recently.
48:34They're like, you know what?
48:35I don't like this girl, but everything she's doing is consensual.
48:37She's not actually doing anything wrong.
48:39She's not a victim.
48:40And the people she sleep with also aren't a victim.
48:43And I've also seen a comment recently, and it's popped up a few times, like everyone I've slept
48:48with, I mean, you probably agree with this one, those names should be released.
48:52Those men should be on the child's, you know, list.
48:55They should be on the register.
48:56They should be locked away, X, Y, and Z.
48:58And it's like, why?
48:59Because they're sleeping with a consenting adult.
49:01They're sleeping with a 46-year-old, as everyone likes to say.
49:04They're not hurting anyone, and I'm not hurting anyone.
49:06And it's crazy how these poorly educated people like to make statements as if they're clever
49:13than me.
49:14They're better than me.
49:15Not only is my bank balance a lot more than them.
49:17Am I a lot happier than them?
49:19But they are genuinely going to go nowhere with their life.
49:22And it's, how can I be affected by that?
49:26Someone that's living in a council house, struggling to pay the bills and their teeth need filling
49:29out.
49:30Like, how can I be offended by you?
49:32You're a tramp.
49:33I think maybe here's a little slogan, a little catchphrase that pays.
49:36I'll just thought of it just there and then.
49:38Yeah.
49:38When someone wants to murder you, you could reply, what I do is barely legal.
49:45What you've just threatened to do is really illegal.
49:48But 100% like the word barely legal, the second bloody word in that is legal.
49:52They're like, oh my God, she's even admitted she slept with someone barely legal.
49:55And it's like, yeah, you're fucking moron.
49:57The second word in that is legal.
49:59Yes, I'm clever with it.
50:00And I'm clearly a lot more clever than you because I've made you make a TikTok on me.
50:04I've made it so that you're so frustrated that you've done this.
50:08And they think that they're one up on me.
50:11And I'm like, no, I already knew he was going to do this.
50:13Of course, I want a reaction from you.
50:15The more you talk about me, the more your husband's going to search me.
50:17The more your son's going to hear my name in the house, where he's going to go and have
50:20a wank over me.
50:21So it's really fun to sort of highlight the lack of intelligence from the majority of
50:30the world.
50:30I mean, you certainly are a marketing genius.
50:32You have managed to manipulate the masses into doing the work for you.
50:36Yeah.
50:37That has to be acknowledged.
50:39I mean, you could also be a great business mentor outside of the sex industry, I'm sure.
50:44No, they're fucking lazy.
50:45Majority of the people in my industry are just sluts.
50:48Like, there's nothing else to them.
50:49And that's fine.
50:50But that's the difference between me and them, is they're just a slut.
50:55And I'm a slut, but I'm also very intelligent.
50:58And I'm also sweet, kind and caring.
51:00They're someone that expect things from men.
51:02They expect the men to subscribe.
51:04They expect people to want to talk to them.
51:06They expect people should know who they are.
51:08And they should have loads of Instagram followers and all this other shit.
51:11I'm like, but why?
51:12You don't deserve anything.
51:14You should never expect anything in life.
51:15You should work for it.
51:16And that's why I get really frustrated with sex workers when they're like, oh, but people
51:20should like me.
51:22And whether you're skinny or fat, they're like, oh, they should like me because I'm skinny
51:25or they should like me because I'm fat.
51:26And I'm like, no, no, it doesn't care.
51:28It doesn't matter what your body shape is.
51:30You're never owed, owed stuff in life.
51:33And a lot of sex workers just, they love themselves too much.
51:37What can I say to make you stop all this madness?
51:40Nothing.
51:42Genuinely nothing.
51:43And there's no amount of money you could offer me.
51:47I've already got more than enough money to stop, but I don't want to.
51:49I already live the most beautiful life possible and I could continue living this without doing
51:54what I do now.
51:56There really is nothing you could say.
51:59And if you wasn't in this industry, doing what you do, pushing the sexual boundaries,
52:07completely separate to that, what could you see yourself doing?
52:11I would still be in recruitment, probably still in Australia because I wouldn't have
52:15got banned, maybe have adopted or gone through IVF and I'd still be with my ex.
52:20And for most people, that's the dream life.
52:23That's what you should, that's what should make you happy.
52:26But that's okay that that doesn't make me happy.
52:28For some people, that's what they want.
52:31But for some people that have got more brain cells, they realise that's not the big all
52:34and end all.
52:35What about moving forward?
52:36Could you see yourself getting into acting, into modelling, into something like that?
52:41Could you go back to build a drama or a dance school perhaps?
52:45Oh God, no.
52:45I don't think anyone would let their kids come near me now.
52:48That's not good.
52:49Yeah, but I also couldn't give a shit.
52:51I know.
52:51Did I want to do dancing now?
52:52That's why I stopped.
52:53All about acting.
52:54So, I mean, maybe I'd do some acting roles for sure, but I'd still be doing this alongside.
52:59For me, I'm always going to have an orgasm.
53:00I might not always do gangbanks, but I'm always going to want to come.
53:03So, and I enjoy filming it.
53:05So, there's no end date in that sense.
53:08So, even if I did acting, I'd still be doing online sort of content to a certain degree.
53:13Modelling, no.
53:15I don't like the odd photo shoot.
53:17I'm not really into photos.
53:18Much prefer a video.
53:21And I don't think I'd suit modelling.
53:25I don't really like having my photos and the makeup and all that shit on.
53:29I'm not that girly.
53:30Is there any, because I asked you before about any celebrity crushes, and I mentioned Eamon Holmes.
53:35And amongst me and my friends, when they heard me ask you that, you didn't know who he was.
53:39And they did my WhatsApp.
53:42I mean, it was a funny gag.
53:43It was wasted on you.
53:44But I got a lot of, we got a lot of laughs out of that with the lads.
53:49But since last year, are there any well-known celebrities that you've got a bit of a crush on or
53:55would be on the Bonnie Blue hit list?
53:57Oh, Chris Hemsworth.
53:58I think he's sexy.
54:01And there's a guy from Emily in Paris.
54:03I mean, your subscribers probably don't watch that.
54:05This is like really sexy mixed race guy.
54:08But no, there's no, and this has always been the case.
54:10I've never been obsessed with anyone.
54:12I've never been like, oh my God, obsessed over them.
54:14It really is personality, which is really cliche to say, because those people are like, oh, it's not looks, it's
54:18personality.
54:19But if he was like, hey, let's go camping this weekend.
54:22Let's go wakeboarding.
54:23Let's just go and float around in the sea and go on a beautiful boat trip and go snorkelling.
54:27That would turn me on and get me excited.
54:29Here's a question.
54:30If you could only sleep with one of these two people, would you choose to fuck Richard Pryor or Gene
54:37Walder?
54:37I don't know who either of them are.
54:39Can they take me to Paris?
54:41I think they're both dead now, so no.
54:42Oh, shit.
54:43Have you seen See No Evil, Hear No Evil?
54:45No.
54:45Have you seen Stir Crazy?
54:47No.
54:47Okay.
54:48Would you have any celebrity crushes?
54:50No, I'm not a crush person.
54:51When I was younger, I had Freddy Krueger posters on my bedroom while all my mates had Pamela Anderson.
54:57I've never, ever, ever had any kind of crush.
55:01I need to meet somebody, speak to them, smell them.
55:03Yeah, I'm a funny old fish, me.
55:06I'm very, very strange.
55:07But yeah, do you know what?
55:08Before I ask you the final question, I've given you a fair fucking grilling,
55:12and I totally appreciate you allowing it and being very amicable in your response.
55:18I'll get backlash irrespective.
55:20For sure.
55:21It's all part of the fun.
55:22One question then.
55:23What do you think of me?
55:25Oh, fucking hell.
55:26Do you think, I mean, there's a few questions in one.
55:29Do you think I enjoy it?
55:30Do you think I'm bothered by the hay?
55:32And do you think I'm happy?
55:34You probably are happy.
55:35Yeah.
55:36I think you could be a hell of a lot happier.
55:38And I don't think you'll realise that until you've changed lanes
55:42and found something that really makes you feel electric.
55:46But at the moment, I believe that you believe you're happy.
55:49Yeah.
55:49What do I think of you?
55:51I think you're a very nice person.
55:52I just think you're doing a very ugly thing.
55:55I don't think hate bothers you.
55:58In fact, hate you create into currency.
56:01Yeah.
56:01On a whole, I mean, it's hard to say you're misunderstood
56:04because you're getting rowed by thousands of men on camera.
56:06So it's like, there's not much to misunderstand.
56:08But I do see the good in you.
56:12I don't think you're a horrendous person.
56:14And I hope that you know that I don't.
56:16I wouldn't ask you to come back for a second time.
56:21But I'm intrigued.
56:22I'm gobsmacked.
56:24I would love to talk you out of it and say,
56:26please do something else.
56:27Please set a different example to my friend's daughters.
56:30I've not got a biological daughter.
56:31So maybe that's why I can have a bit of a laugh and a joke.
56:33I think if I had a biological daughter,
56:35I'd be like, what the fuck is going on here?
56:37But no, and I, same as before,
56:40I wish you all the luck in the world.
56:42I wish you were doing something else that I could put that luck into.
56:44Well, I think we should do a year from now
56:45and then see how much has changed again.
56:48Because yes, I knew my life was going to become busier
56:52since we last spoke.
56:53Didn't expect what's happened in the last six months or 10 months.
56:56So I'm excited to see where it's going to go 10 months from now.
57:01Yeah.
57:01But consider this an invite for part three in 10 months time.
57:05Yeah.
57:05And I'll see what you get up to.
57:07I really hope that someone doesn't do anything silly.
57:11I really hope you slowly rein it back a little bit.
57:14I think you will in time.
57:15You're 25,
57:16having the time of your life because you're doing what you enjoy.
57:18But yeah, what was your final message to the masses be?
57:22My final message to the masses is, for me is,
57:25I think what you're doing is dangerous
57:27and I really hope you and everybody else that's involved stay safe.
57:31But what's your final message to the masses?
57:34Boys, I hope you enjoy wanking over me
57:36and I'm sorry your wife is so pathetic.
57:40For fuck's sake.
57:43If you've enjoyed this conversation
57:44and you want to hear more conversations like this,
57:46although you'll probably have to wait another 10 months,
57:48please do like and subscribe to the channel.
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57:57like Bonnie Blue on the show.
57:59And for you,
58:00until the next time,
58:02stay safe.
58:04Cheers.
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