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Intervista ad Archie Madekwe e Alison Oliver, tra i protagonisti di Saltburn, in cui Emerald Fennell sfida le convinzioni dello spettatore anche attraverso i generi cinematografici. Su Prime Video.
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00:00Do you know how to party in Sudbury?
00:03We do indeed, we really do.
00:10And here he is now.
00:12Oh, what beautiful eyes. Oh, how wonderful.
00:16Yeah, I told you it wasn't a minger.
00:17Oh, but darling, you're kind about everyone. You can't be trusted.
00:20Do you know how to party in Sudbury?
00:24We do indeed, we really do.
00:26And it's interesting how I had the feeling that this house was waiting for someone like Oliver.
00:33Do you believe that nowadays power and privilege meet a person like him?
00:41It's interesting. Well, I mean, it's an interesting, yeah.
00:45It's weird that these systems still exist.
00:48It is strange and whether they have a place in our modern day society is definitely debatable.
00:56And so, you know, maybe not necessarily in the way that Oliver, kind of, the route that he took,
01:01but I think definitely sometimes some of that wealth needs to be distributed and shaken up.
01:07And there's too much of a disparity in this country still, that's for sure, yeah.
01:12Because it's almost like your characters are soft.
01:16And power needs someone stronger, let's say that.
01:20So in your opinion, since each character in this movie is almost like a villain, what makes a villain in
01:27your opinion?
01:29Hmm, that's interesting.
01:31Well, see, I don't, I feel like, I feel like I don't, maybe it's because we're playing them that we
01:39don't see our characters as villains.
01:41Yeah.
01:41I never, because I think they're all kind of poisoned by their own privilege, like they're a product of what
01:47they've kind of come from in a way.
01:48But, but what makes a villain, I don't know, I guess someone who does bad things and doesn't take any
02:01responsibility for it.
02:03Like all these characters.
02:04Like, yes, but then, it's a real, I don't know how to define a villain.
02:09It's a really hard question, I don't know.
02:11As an actor, like you kind of often, even if you're playing a villain, you don't categorize, you try not
02:17to judge, I think, often.
02:19And so, like, that's definitely, it's never something I've heard about Venetia, but definitely something I've heard about Farley all
02:24the time.
02:24It's like, oh, it's so, I get texts from friends, it's so cool to see you playing the villain.
02:28But I really think that, but it really comes from, you know, you really have to find ways to, like,
02:33sympathize and empathize and understand.
02:35And, you know, all of it's defense mechanism, and it's, as you say, a product of their environment.
02:40It all comes from somewhere.
02:41It's all self-serving, and him trying to keep himself in the family and trying to protect himself.
02:47And especially when he sees Oliver and sees somebody that is threatening and maybe a little bit too recognizable.
02:55He's somebody else on the outside looking in, and he feels like, he feels threatened by the idea.
03:02There's not room for the both of them.
03:03And so, that's kind of where his kind of fascination in tearing him and taking him out.
03:09It's more of a protection and less of a, I just want to be a dick.
03:12Just want to be a dick, yeah, yeah.
03:14I think that this movie is a mirror to a promising young woman.
03:18Can we say that Emerald Fennell is telling us that we should fear good guys?
03:27How sinister are they?
03:29Well, we should...
03:30I think I heard Emerald speak about this before, and I think what's really interesting is, like, I think she
03:37believes, and I really know what she means of, like, I don't know, is there such a thing as good
03:42or bad?
03:42I think every single person is a blend of both, and I think she's telling a particular kind of depiction
03:49of what we maybe see as good guy and challenging that.
03:55But I don't think, you know, I don't think Emerald, or I kind of feel like anyone is one thing,
04:01and I think that's the complexity of all of these characters, is they can be really kind of awful, and
04:06then we can feel really sorry for them at the same time.
04:09And, but I think what Emerald does so well is kind of challenges what we are okay with going, that's
04:15a good guy, or that's whatever, and going, is it actually what, you know?
04:18And she does that with genre too, you know, she, you know, what is, nothing is ever one thing, and
04:24I think she really, she, as you say, that's a real fascination of hers, and so with genre in this
04:29film, in a moment that you think it's a drama or comedy, it turns itself in its head again, and
04:35if you find that with Promising Young Woman 2, you think it's going in one direction, and it moves.
04:39But much like life, nothing is ever moving in one direction. Things take us off course all the time, and
04:45we're surprised and challenged by those things, and then have to confront them when they arise.
04:49Yeah. I think that these characters are doomed because nobody really cares.
04:55That's very true.
04:56About anything, not even about themselves. So how important is caring about something, about everything?
05:02Well, you know, I think that's a, that's one of the, kind of the privileged problems of having way too
05:09much money, is it's hard to find things to care about when everything, you have access to everything.
05:16I think that's probably an existential thing that they're all kind of battling, and whether they are, whether they're aware
05:22of it or not, I think Farley, having no actual direct access to money, and, and having to have everything
05:31paid for by family, being, he's actually a bit more aware of it, maybe, than some of the other characters,
05:37because it doesn't just come easy to him.
05:38He's actually having to, to work and put on this character, and, and be, be, he's a bit more like
05:45Oliver in that sense, where when Oliver says, you know, I know how to work, Farley's been doing that really
05:50his entire life as well.
05:51He's really been like, kind of keeping everybody at bay and keeping himself comfortable for that amount of time, but,
05:58um.
05:59I think it's difficult as well, because I feel like even within their kind of social rules, it's almost, I
06:05think Emeril said this, like, it's almost cringe to care about anything as well.
06:08Like, you kind of want to see, seem so cool about everything, and nothing is an issue, and that, that's
06:14kind of in their kind of vocabulary of, like, behaviour, and so, even if you're struggling with something, or, you
06:20know, if you have everything in a material sense, but emotionally, you're massively lacking something, there's not actually really space
06:25for that, so that feeling of doing, I really get that, because it's like, where do I put it, or
06:30who wants to listen, so, it's very, yeah, that's, it's tricky.
06:34Thank you so much, the movie is amazing.
06:36Thank you.
06:36Thank you so much.
06:37Thank you so much.
06:37So good to see you.
06:38Thank you.
06:40Thank you.
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