00:00It's big, it's apathy, but then we have to change the politics of the world.
00:12That's a real difficult thing to do.
00:15Easy task, yeah.
00:17Yeah, yeah, really good. We'll have it done by tomorrow, yeah.
00:32Can we say that apathy could be the biggest disease of this century? What do you think?
00:45With real exceptions, I think, yes, I think that that's the truth.
00:53Exceptions would be where people rise up and make change.
01:00So, for example, you know, apartheid or, you know, something like that, where people rise up and make change.
01:10Or the unions, you know, the power of the unions, which is, you know, working class taking on the upper
01:16classes and all of that stuff.
01:20But that seems to be less and less.
01:24I think apathy is more of a disease now than it ever was.
01:30So, you know, when you look at American politics, when you look at which is, you know, when you look
01:38at what happened with Brexit, you know, stuff like that, where you allow these things to happen to you, where
01:45you don't challenge the powers that be.
01:48I think, I think, yeah, I think more and more so, I would say, more, actually, it's more similar now
01:56to centuries ago.
01:58The family business of your character is based on death because they kill animals and the kidnappers business is also
02:08based on death.
02:10So, do you believe that it's something that is part of the human being and we can never evolve or
02:22is something that is more and more present in today's society and we don't want to admit it?
02:28We can evolve. I think both. I think both of those things are the case.
02:34I think we can evolve. But now more and more, it's more evident now that we have to choose to.
02:43We have to make a choice to stop things from happening.
02:46You know, the same with climate change. You know, we can make that change.
02:51But the people that we put into powerful positions or allow to get into powerful positions block that change more
03:03viciously and ferociously than I think that they ever have or not ever have.
03:09But in my in my in my my life. So I think it's harder to affect change.
03:17It takes more personal risk. And when you see someone like Thunberg, you know, when you see that the absolute
03:28commitment to change that she has made and which will follow her for all of her life.
03:36It's a very powerful statement. Now. Now, what do you do with it?
03:40You know, what do you what do we do with it?
03:42Because of the habits that we got into, because of the fears that we have, because of our worries and
03:50for our children and so on.
03:51What do we do? What do we do now? And what do you know, I'm not going to be around
03:55for long.
03:56So what do they do? What are the ones that I leave behind me?
04:00What are my kids going to do? And so on and so forth.
04:02So it's it's it's it's big. It's apathy.
04:05But then that you have to change, change the the politics of the world.
04:14That's a real difficult thing to do.
04:17Easy task. Yeah.
04:19Yeah. Yeah. Really. We'll have it done by tomorrow.
04:22Yeah. York Carter thinks that he's the hero of his own story, but to other people, especially his family, is
04:30the villain.
04:31villain. So since you've played a lot of them, what makes a villain in your opinion?
04:35Well, I don't know if he sees it that way.
04:38I mean, that's for you guys to to decide, because I think the film is very different to each audience
04:43member.
04:43From what I'm hearing, they see a very different film, which is is means that Michelle did something right.
04:51Very right.
04:52And as far as so, I don't really I never thought of him as that.
04:57I knew why he behaved the way that he behaves in in the moment each, you know, at each given
05:05moment.
05:06That was my job. But I didn't see him black and white in that way.
05:10It wasn't clear.
05:11Always unclear was unclear was most important.
05:16Villains are fun in, you know, traditionally in movies.
05:19They can be a lot of fun to play if they're not.
05:24Too predictable.
05:27But but I always when I was when I started, I never thought I never really think about things in
05:34those terms.
05:35But the characters who were the good guys were were generally not as interesting, you know, to watch or to
05:47be.
05:48They were not.
05:50But the choice was kind of taken out of my hands a bit at the beginning where people came to
05:55me with very unusual and odd characters.
05:59You know, there I was lucky in that I wasn't pretty.
06:05I was not a pretty boy.
06:07A lot of the actors that were starting who fell into that category who could be really, really great actors
06:14got very after a while, very uninteresting things to play.
06:21I was lucky to look like I do.
06:24And so a little bit that that helped.
06:29I was I wasn't I wasn't usual as far as cinema was concerned at that time.
06:36And I jumped on that.
06:38I made sure that I I didn't I tried to do things that I found interesting and strange.
06:44And quite often they were, you know, they could be antagonists, you know, that could be weird.
06:53and odd characters.
06:56And I stuck with that.
06:57I like the anarchy of my of my career.
07:01I like that.
07:02Yeah.
07:03I love that, too.
07:05And speaking about anarchy and being weird, weird, what kind of villain will be your abomination in She-Hulk?
07:15If you can say something.
07:16I don't know if I'm allowed to say what he's become, but it's actually a lot of fun what they've
07:22come up with.
07:23I when they came to me, I thought it was really, really funny that I you know, because I did
07:30the original film.
07:31I just did as a as something for my kids.
07:34You know, I thought that my kids would get kicked out of me being a monster and then they asked
07:38me to come back and they had developed the character in a very different way from how I'd ever imagined.
07:47And it's a it's a it's a very fun concept.
07:52So I can't about I can't give the game away.
07:55I don't know.
07:56OK, I think about monsters, we get we could say that Neil has some qualities and what can we learn
08:10from from monsters?
08:12because you are saying they they are more fun and more complex.
08:16So what is their lesson?
08:18What is the monster lesson?
08:20They're fun if they're not real.
08:24There's definitely if they were if they are when they are real, they're no fun at all.
08:30OK.
08:32So but for Neil, I never saw him that way.
08:35I never I never saw him that way it because his actions, he was not aware of the repercussions of
08:44his actions.
08:45And I, you know, my my job was just to play a man who was drifting through his life for
08:54whatever reason the audience will find out and have and have an opinion about what he is.
09:03because mine is not to is not to inform the audience.
09:08This is also a movie about a family.
09:11You've mentioned your your kids, your children many times.
09:16What is the true meaning of family to you?
09:19Gosh, I don't know.
09:21I couldn't possibly begin.
09:24It's huge.
09:25What you hope what you hope is that you'll all put your arms around each other and and and that
09:31you will.
09:33That you will help each other through whatever the crisis is or whatever the happiness is, you'll you'll go through
09:41you'll go through life together.
09:45I think that that is the most important thing in a way, then whatever happens, you have support, support group.
09:54Thank you so much.
09:56A great job.
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