00:00Ciao.
00:00Ciao.
00:01Ciao.
00:15One of the lines of the movie is fear is natural, but the more you fear something, the more it
00:20becomes true. Do you agree? And if so, how can we fight fear? It's not easy.
00:27Well, fear is part of being human. Our lives, I think, are spent negotiating the fear. We all have
00:35psychological fear, physical fear sometimes. I mean, we're all full of anxieties. I think there's
00:44some truth in the line that if you obsess about something, it might become real, the fear. But I
00:49think life is about negotiating fear. And, you know, that's why often one's friends,
00:57family. We need companions on the path of life. But, you know, fear. Fear, you have it as a child,
01:07and it's all part of being a human being, I think.
01:11Do you agree?
01:13I do. I mean, it's a very profound question. But I mean, there's, yes, alcohol is one way of
01:24dealing with it. Prescription pills. But more healthily, as Rafe suggests, the companionship
01:32of others, the community, learning that other people share the same anxieties, which is the
01:45point, partly, of going to see films, isn't it? And since we're on the subject, it's the
01:52point of going to see films together in cinemas so that you enjoy a collective experience and
01:59and you hear, you laugh at the same time as others. And you all, so you're aware that you
02:06are all share the common problem of being human.
02:09You play both characters who think they are the heroes of their own story, but to other
02:17people, they are the villain. So in your opinion, what makes a villain?
02:22Oxford isn't a villain in this story, but Rafe obviously has played many parts.
02:28Maybe his son is not so, he doesn't agree because...
02:33I see what you mean. Yeah.
02:35Yeah, yeah.
02:35This is the problem of perspective, isn't it? And relative truth and one man's revolutionary
02:44hero being another man's terrorist. I don't know that King George is anyone's villain in this.
02:52His cousins think he's annoying. Well, there is evil in the film, but I don't play anyone
02:59who is, I think we're supposed to believe is evil. I think I play characters who are foolish
03:07at some level because of their inability to see anything other than their own perspective.
03:12They're all inferior to the challenge that they're presented with. It's the hero in stories
03:21that tends to be the one who can see beyond. And actually also Gemma Arterton's character
03:29can do that in this. And also Jaiman is, I think, given some sort of intrinsic wisdom and breadth
03:39of perspective in the story. Those characters have those virtues. The supporting characters
03:46that I play are not blessed with a great breadth of vision. George is a bit, but he's got to
03:57he's got to be king, which is a tough job.
04:00If Carter says that being a gentleman once wasn't a good thing, but a horrible thing,
04:05do you believe that today is a time for gentlemen or not?
04:11Well, I think the essence of a gentleman or gentlewoman or gentle person, I mean, if we try to break
04:18it
04:18away from being gender specific, I mean, I think traditionally it's based on the notion of the night,
04:25you know, the chivalry, serving the king, protecting the land, the nation, doing the brave thing,
04:32going into battle against dragons or symbols of evil, forces of darkness. And so I think the legacy
04:40of the gentleman is from that time. And I think I was always brought up as a gentleman,
04:47you know, doesn't put themselves first, thinks of the other person, puts themselves in harm's way
04:52to protect others. And I think the speech in this film is about, you know, the aristocracy was founded
04:59on, you know, belligerent, tough, sort of a bit like mafia bosses, I imagine our English lords were
05:07like that tough, you know, they were, they were ruthless, and they took and they fought and they
05:11killed to get their land. And then the, then over, over centuries and times, we had these old families
05:17here, which are no longer like that. In fact, the pressure on them to survive is the degree to which
05:22they are serving and supporting the country and the community and the land, they're kind of curators
05:30of the land, and they, they're there, they only can survive as long as they are somehow giving
05:36something back to the community. And I think Oxford, this character feels, feels that, I think.
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