00:00E ora penso che per la prima volta
00:03inizio a vedere quello che ho sempre pensato era la mia veritÃ
00:06la mia vulnerabilità , la mia emozione
00:09come la mia superposta
00:57Io sono fratelli, non so se non siete consapevoli
01:00e mi ricordo che dopo la dance performance
01:04ho realizzato che ho diventato molto abbracciato
01:07i miei amici
01:08perché ho diventato in un modo che era considerato
01:11il movimento di una ragazza
01:15e ho stoptato pubblicamente
01:18non so ne vieno più inizio
01:20tra le 4 walls della mia sala
01:24e ho iniziato la mia vita
01:28la mia madre mi ha dato una camera
01:30e ho iniziato a filmare, tutto
01:34ma questo desiderio di essere un danza
01:37non è mai stato mai stato
01:40è sempre stato come un sogno
01:42che era ancora dentro di me
01:44e quindi durante i miei anni in film school
01:48ho studiato tutti i miei amici
01:49con i miei amici
01:50ho cercato di stare molto vicino
01:53al mondo della dance
01:54e ho visto come si usavano
01:56i miei amici, i miei amici, i miei amici
02:02i miei amici, i miei amici
02:05invece di dialogare
02:06io penso che è la rule
02:08di una dance spectaccia
02:09che ti convey cose
02:10con i miei amici
02:11e con i miei amici
02:14e con i miei amici
02:15e quando ho iniziato a scrivere
02:16feature film
02:17io penso che
02:18ho cercato a trovare una lingua
02:20che potrebbe comunque
02:22sia molto collegato
02:24con l'idea
02:24di una dance spectaccia
02:26ovviamente
02:27come è una feature
02:29che usano le parole
02:30ma penso che
02:31in questo film
02:32è riuscita
02:33solo per i miei amici
02:35di questi attori
02:36per i miei amici
02:37che vediamo
02:38i miei amici
02:39e credo che
02:40la camera
02:41ci permette
02:42che vediamo
02:43i miei amici
02:44che vediamo
02:45che ci sono
02:46attraversi
02:48ciò che
02:49ciò
02:50ciò
02:53ciò
02:57è
02:57a
02:58è
02:58ciò
02:59la
02:59ciò
02:59ciò
02:59ciò
02:59ciò
02:59ciò
03:00ciò
03:00ciò
03:00ciò
03:03è
03:07Speaking about feelings, I really loved in your movie that moment in our lives when we understand that other people,
03:16when they grow up, they are afraid of feelings, of emotions.
03:23Why? In your opinion, we are so afraid.
03:25Well, I think we learn that emotions often get to be considered in a society as weakness, and that we
03:36live in a society that can offer itself in very brutal, violent ways, and that creating an armor in order
03:46to be able to live in that world, in that society, is important.
03:52And so vulnerability and tenderness are things that we don't often value enough as traits that are incredibly important to
04:01us.
04:01Maybe now that is changing with the conversation around mental health and the necessity of us to stay deeply connected,
04:10also through emotion.
04:13I think I realized as a young man growing up, of course, also that masculinity in this world comes with
04:22its sets of traits like independence, being more restrained with emotion, and it were all expectations that I wasn't able
04:31to live up to.
04:31And so now, I think that for the first time, I start to see what I always thought was my
04:39weakness, I think my vulnerability, my emotion, as my superpower.
04:47You, this is your second movie, and it's amazing, you are a great rising star of cinema, and I want
04:56to ask you about the Sight and Sound top 100 movies chart.
05:02It comes out each 10 years, and many old critics are saying that since many more people voted this time,
05:15and many younger people and women and black men and black women,
05:22the old classics are being menaced by the new, there's Jordan Peele, the one movie of a woman is on
05:32the top place.
05:34So, what would you say to those people? To me, it's a positive thing, because it means that cinema is
05:40a living thing, but to others, it's not. So, what do you think?
05:45Well, I think naming, I mean, our profession is also so linked to subjectivity. We all have different tastes, and
05:56of course, there are those pieces that we cannot get around, but something like the best films of all time,
06:04it's very relative.
06:06It depends on the point that, of entering the way you look at it, but what does really excite me
06:14is that, for example, a work like Jean Dillman by Chantal Ackerman is celebrated,
06:20because I remember seeing that work when I was 18, and being confronted with the ways that time, mise-en
06:29-scene, could show a societal condition, one of a woman in this case,
06:34with such elegance and such importance, and so seeing a work like that celebrated by a fellow Belgian filmmaker that
06:44I consider to be one of the most important of our country is a powerful sensation.
06:55And I think that that is what I take away from it, that that celebration of things that maybe weren't
07:01always celebrated to the same extent, is a beautiful thing.
07:08I so agree with you. Thank you so much. Thank you. And the movie is amazing.
07:13Thank you. That's very kind.
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