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00:00Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
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00:12Evan Giddings in for goo today.
00:14Willard and Dibbs have just joined us.
00:15It is the crossover.
00:17What's up, guys?
00:18How are you?
00:19What's going on?
00:19Yeah, doing great.
00:21Doing great.
00:22Good to hear.
00:23I'm distracted.
00:25Why?
00:25By what?
00:26I'm going to the DMV later, and I'm already in line.
00:30Okay.
00:30And he's like, I'm going to Chase Center.
00:33I got in line at about 105.
00:35Okay.
00:35There were 77 people before me.
00:38And you're down to what?
00:3963.
00:40Okay, that's exciting.
00:41You're on the move.
00:41You're like Darren Ruff.
00:43So you've moved up 14 spots in 45 minutes.
00:47Yes.
00:48So you're looking at about four minutes per spot.
00:51I know.
00:52And how many?
00:52You have 60 to go?
00:53Yeah.
00:54So.
00:55I'd like to get there, and it'd be under 40.
00:58I like your chances.
01:00Wait, where?
01:01What DMV?
01:02Claremont in Oakland.
01:03Oh.
01:04So I'll be there probably at 2.45 in an hour.
01:07Not a lot of traffic.
01:08Yeah, this isn't moving fast enough.
01:09Well, that could be the name we were kicking around, standing throughout a joke from the
01:13text line, which was Draymond Green's podcast should be called Unguarded.
01:18That was the one that he was on recently.
01:20But maybe DMV is it.
01:21Draymond must vent.
01:23DMV.
01:24Did you guys hear what Draymond said?
01:26We played it actually yesterday in Warriors Live a little bit of it.
01:29I didn't take it the same way you guys did.
01:31Really?
01:31Well, you, it sounded like, correct me if I'm wrong, it sounded to me like you thought
01:35the whole, and we should play it if we're going to comment on it.
01:38Yeah, go and play it.
01:41I see fans saying different s*** now.
01:43Like, you know, I see Warriors fans like, yo, it's time to get him out of here.
01:47And to the real Warriors fans that don't feel that way, thank you.
01:51I appreciate it.
01:52To the ones that do feel that way, like you was a loser before I got here.
01:56Stone Cold forever losers.
01:59If you say that, it makes sense to me.
02:01You've never been here.
02:02Right?
02:02So you don't know how to appreciate something for its entirety because you've never been
02:08here.
02:08You never had the opportunity to do that.
02:11So, great.
02:12I'll be the test run.
02:14Right?
02:14Like, hopefully, I love this organization.
02:17I was telling somebody the other day.
02:20I don't love the comment, but it sounded like when he says to the fans that want me gone,
02:30you were a Stone Cold loser.
02:32Like, I didn't think he acted.
02:33He didn't say it right.
02:34I didn't think he was talking directly at the fans.
02:36I thought he was talking about the organization.
02:38Yeah, I kind of did, too.
02:40Evan thinks it was kind of muddled.
02:42Um, but the, the thing that I wasn't crazy about is it feels like, you know, over the
02:51years, Draymond has had, you know, a roller coaster of a career with highs and lows.
02:56And there's been some times when the lows have been so low that some fans have kind of
03:00peeled off him.
03:02You know, they're just, they, whether it's the suspension or the punch, you know, or something
03:07else, they're just, they're kind of done with Draymond.
03:10And to me, what I'm hearing is, well, if you're done with me, you know, you're not
03:14a real fan.
03:15And it's like, no, you can be a fan, but kind of be a little fed up with what you've
03:19done, Draymond.
03:20That's all.
03:21I get that part of it.
03:22And, you know, it comes down to what kind of a fan you are.
03:25If you're a fan of the team, then you're going to be a fan of the team almost no matter
03:29what.
03:30And if you're a fan of Steph Curry and you want everything for Steph, then everything else is
03:35secondary or ancillary.
03:36And I've been a warrior fan for probably darn near 50 years.
03:40And he's not one of my favorite warriors all time, but he's on the team.
03:44And therefore I want him to do well.
03:46We were joking yesterday about, you know, you're watching a game and you don't love Draymond
03:50and they're down two with a minute 12 to go.
03:53And he gets an open three in the corner.
03:55Are you rooting for him to miss it?
03:57Cause you don't like Draymond?
03:58No.
03:58No.
03:59I'm hoping he makes it, even though.
04:01Kind of rooting for him to not take it.
04:02But anyway, yeah, that's kind of my thought, but you know, it just depends on how you look
04:07at things, but some of his premises, I just have a problem with and like, or what he's
04:13saying, like he's, he, he's actually saying the people who were, or the fans that were
04:18here before the dynasty don't appreciate it.
04:24That's what it sounded like to me.
04:25And I'm like, actually, I think it's the other way around.
04:28This is maybe more kind of a view from 10,000 feet, but this, and this might be stupid, but
04:33I was like, it's funny when you're like, he creates two options.
04:39Either you support me and thank you for that, or you're wrong.
04:45And I'm like, well, hold on.
04:48You can't thank people for something and then tell them that if they don't do what you just
04:53thank them for, they're wrong or they're bad.
04:56Then that means the other people don't deserve a thank you.
04:59I don't know if this is too far in the weeds for people, but do you get where I'm coming
05:02from?
05:03To say thank you to, you say thank you to someone when they've gone above and beyond, they've
05:08done something for you.
05:09That means that to not do that as a baseline, not to somehow be below the baseline, which is
05:14what he kind of creates.
05:15And then here's the other thing, the beauty of fandom, and we all make fun of it or poke
05:21things at it.
05:22Guru got all mad when I was telling him about going to a Niner game in a cowboy jersey, but
05:26none of that's like real.
05:28There are no rules to fandom, period.
05:33It's the beauty of it.
05:34You get to do this however you want, root for who you want, root against who you want,
05:40like who you want, not like who you want, root for a team from the wrong city.
05:43He, like, it's, you get to do whatever you want.
05:47So I don't, I don't, anything that sort of challenges that, I think is a prickly spot.
05:53I just think he sounded like the people who criticize him.
05:57I think he sounded a lot like Twitter.
05:59And those are, those, that also might be the audience he's talking about because, you know,
06:04he has a podcast and probably sees what people reply to his, his comments on.
06:08And probably not a lot of the stuff is good, especially this season.
06:12But, I don't know, I used to love Draymond.
06:15When I was more of a fan, Draymond was probably my favorite player because he's who I identified
06:20with the most.
06:21Like, I, as a player, definitely was more of a head case, had trouble dialing things down.
06:28And, I appreciated how Draymond was able to use that and weaponize it in a way that made his team
06:35great.
06:35So I appreciated that about Draymond.
06:38But, I can also sit here and look at his season objectively and say, it might be time.
06:44You know, this is the first, this is the first year where he has been a negative for his team
06:49statistically.
06:52And, does that mean that he is going to be not on the team next year?
06:55Probably not. But, to call that out doesn't mean that I'm a stone-cold loser
07:01and I don't appreciate what he's done over his damn near 15 years.
07:06But, it is time to look at what he's done recently and say, is there a better role for you?
07:13And is that on this team?
07:15Well, right now, there is no better role for him because he actually plays basketball.
07:19And, you've got three guys who can't play back-to-backs on your team.
07:22One guy who's getting over an illness, another guy who's 40, and then another guy coming off an ACL.
07:27And, your two best players aren't available either.
07:30So, I'm with you in an ideal world.
07:33That's not his role that you would want.
07:35But, right now, it kind of has to be.
07:36And, over the last couple of weeks, he's actually played better.
07:39Right.
07:39It was, you know, December, January, and February.
07:43He really struggled.
07:44I think over the last couple of weeks, maybe since the break even, he's been good.
07:48He's been good.
07:48And, I still do.
07:49I get where you're coming from, E, but I really don't.
07:52I think he would probably choose a couple extra words to put in there if he were saying this again.
07:57He's in a relaxed environment.
07:59They're on couches doing a podcast.
08:01I don't think he meant the fans are losers.
08:04I think he meant the team that you have been watching up until we got here were losers.
08:11And, I know, you said this earlier, and you're also not wrong.
08:14They weren't always losers.
08:16I know, if you go back so far as the 70s, they won.
08:21But, even there, we know this.
08:23There are teams, this is why I never do Super Bowl or Championship or Bust.
08:27There are teams that we revere that didn't win the whole thing.
08:30Like, there's We Believe, there's the Tim and Chris Berger.
08:34We love those teams.
08:35We love those players.
08:36But, there's also bad teams with great individuals.
08:38Like, I was just looking at it.
08:40The Warriors were a 17-win team under Dave Cowens.
08:43Dave Cowens wasn't a good head coach.
08:45He ain't a loser.
08:46Dave Cowens is a winner.
08:49And, he wasn't a great head coach.
08:51But, to label him, along with a lot of other people, to me, it's just, it's a blanket statement that
08:56often gets thrown at him.
08:58And, I guess, and look, it's Draymond.
09:00He says what he wants.
09:01It's, I guess, as someone who has had the, you know, the longevity and the understanding of a league that
09:08we will not.
09:09That he would be a bit more humble about it.
09:11He's not wrong that he is a big part of elevating this.
09:16100%.
09:16Not just out, Blake, to something that long-time Warrior fans never imagined possible.
09:22They're worth more than the Lakers and the Knicks.
09:25And, is that because of him?
09:26He's got a piece of the pie.
09:27Yeah.
09:28Absolutely.
09:29Yeah.
09:29Absolutely.
09:30But, he talks to me like someone who has a bigger slice.
09:34I mean, he's got probably, he's one of the top three or four size slices.
09:41He's not Steph.
09:42But, you know, like, he's got a slice.
09:45Depends on how many different people you want to give pie to.
09:48I guess.
09:48Because, I mean.
09:49This is a short list.
09:51It's less than 10 people.
09:52Sure.
09:53Joe Lacob has a bigger piece.
09:54Steph and Steve, to me, both bigger pieces.
09:57It's fine.
09:57And, Clay's got a piece.
09:58And, Draymond's got a piece.
10:00I think the logo's got a slice a lot bigger than what people would want to give.
10:03Give him credit for.
10:04Bob Myers as well.
10:05Right.
10:05But, we're not going to come up with 10 names who have a bigger slice than Draymond.
10:08No, you're right.
10:09You're right.
10:10But, part of it for me is just having him always remind us.
10:13And, it's not really me he's talking to.
10:16It's the people who are, you know, trying to run him out.
10:19Or, you know, get rid of him.
10:21Or, debase his career.
10:23And, you said this, I think, last week, Mark.
10:25Like, when it's all done and the dust settles and you look back.
10:28We're going to look back on it.
10:29Even the haters will look back more fondly than you're feeling right now.
10:32Because, you just went to Utah and lost.
10:35And, Utah's trying to lose.
10:38And, you couldn't even let Utah lose.
10:40Because, they beat you.
10:42Pod did come out before the game.
10:43Yeah.
10:44Like, we played it on the pregame show.
10:45Right.
10:46Probably also recorded, you know.
10:47Yeah.
10:48It could have been a week ago.
10:49Who knows?
10:49I assume it was, might have been over the weekend.
10:51Because, it was with Fred Van Vliet and they were in Houston.
10:53Yeah.
10:53But.
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11:04I guess, like, here's the thing.
11:05I think Draymond, when it's all said and done, and he's going to be, let's say he's going
11:11to be a TNT guy, or one of those guys.
11:14Like, Shaq's a turnoff when he gets on Charles Barkley.
11:21Well, I have a four rings.
11:23I don't listen to a guy that never rings.
11:25And, that's Shaquille O'Neal.
11:27You know, the big boy on the Lakers titles team.
11:31It is going to be interesting to watch Draymond Green, with four titles, afterwards, talking
11:40like Shaquille O'Neal.
11:41I don't find Shaq a turnoff, but I get where you're coming from.
11:45He just goes to it all the time.
11:47I don't know if Draymond is playful enough for that role.
11:50That show is great because of the playfulness that everybody has with one another.
11:55But, like, when Shaq does that, I feel like he's...
11:58You don't like it.
11:58I don't.
11:59I feel like he's sticking it to Barkley.
12:00Maybe, but I think that that's part of their stick, is to stick it to each other.
12:06That's what they do.
12:08And Barkley is so clever with his words.
12:11And not that Shaq isn't, but that's where Barkley has the edge.
12:14So, Shaq's ultimate trump card is, I got four rings, and now, you know, you got there once
12:19and couldn't get by Mike.
12:20I mean, you get these three guys up there, and I know that sometimes there are other guests,
12:24but they're all played together against one another.
12:28Who are Draymond's contemporaries that are going to do this with him, and it's going to be playful and fun?
12:36On TNT, or whatever.
12:38I know it's a good question.
12:39Well, playful and fun?
12:41There's probably guys.
12:43But it's going to have to be somebody, like, I guess LeBron could.
12:48And it would be fun?
12:49I mean, I'm just thinking of broadcasters.
12:51Like, I think Jamal Crawford.
12:52But Barkley.
12:53Jamal Crawford's pretty good.
12:54Yeah, Barkley can still do it, I guess.
12:55As far as the young guys, I don't know.
12:57But it's like, but those are the kinds of guys that are going into broadcasting now.
13:01It's not the best players anymore, because the best players make too much damn money to want to work on
13:06television.
13:08I mean, I also think, too, it's the guy that I always find interesting in that conversation is Kenny Smith.
13:14Because Draymond's a better player than Kenny Smith was.
13:18But Kenny never.
13:21Am I wrong?
13:22No, but you're not.
13:24But he's close.
13:25Kenny Smith's not going to the Hall of Fame.
13:27He's closer to Kenny than he is to Shaq.
13:29Is that fair?
13:30As far as, like, caliber of player, yeah.
13:32That's fair.
13:33I mean, Kenny Smith was a fantastic college player, and then he was a point guard for a team that
13:37won two in a row.
13:38But that's my point, is that he never throws that in Barkley's face, ever.
13:42Who are the star players, and they can be late in their career, in the NBA right now, who you
13:49want to see be a part of broadcasts in the future that you think will be fun?
13:56Draymond Green.
13:57Okay.
13:57I mean, you start to go down the list, like, well, Chris Paul, who's now retired, I think he could
14:02be good.
14:04I know you don't like him, so.
14:05But that's what, likability is a big piece of this puzzle.
14:08I think more people like him than you do.
14:10I mean, you're.
14:11His own teammates don't like him.
14:12Well, I mean, ask Draymond Green about that.
14:15I mean.
14:15You don't like how much money he made.
14:16This is a guy who was maybe one of the best players in the history of an organization that eventually
14:21then told him to go home in the middle of a road trip.
14:24Yeah.
14:24Can you imagine?
14:25Like, this is not a well-liked dude.
14:27No, but nationally, I don't think Draymond is either.
14:31I agree.
14:32So, like, I'm not even sure that he fits.
14:34The podcast is great.
14:35I don't know if his likability, I don't know.
14:38Well, I think Draymond's likability, like, Barkley wasn't loved when he was a player, because, you know, but all I'm
14:45getting at is when it, you know, as far as Draymond Green goes, when he's finished playing and he's doing
14:49the TV, he's going to get more and more and more liked, I believe.
14:54You're probably right.
14:55And, you know, would Chris Paul be able to do the same thing?
14:58I don't know that he's got Draymond's person.
15:01I don't think so.
15:02Like, I do think Draymond Green's got a good sense of humor and all that kind of stuff and can
15:06be, like, because he's got four rings, he's going to be able to dish it out, but also he'll take
15:14it, too, because his resume speaks for itself.
15:16You're probably right.
15:17Chris Paul's probably more defensive about all that kind of stuff.
15:20Yeah, he doesn't seem like he's got a huge sense of humor.
15:23I've never thought that about him.
15:25You coaching, first words out of his mouth as a warrior.
15:28I look around the league, and maybe they're all going to soften up, and they'll be like Kobe and be
15:34aware of their late years in their career, and they'll soften their stance with fans and media.
15:39But stars and fans today, that relationship is so much more strained than it used to be.
15:47Yeah, I think it takes a different kind of athlete.
15:50Like, someone who I really enjoy listening to who has kind of the resume and he's got some hardware would
15:55be, like, Jalen Brown.
15:56Like, I think Jalen Brown's very well-spoken.
16:00I think he puts together a lot of interesting events and brings different kinds of groups together.
16:06And that would be someone that I would be interested in hearing from, talk about the game from his perspective
16:12to kind of compliment maybe someone like Draymond.
16:14But again, I just don't know how many of these guys would actually want to do that.
16:18He's also a decade.
16:19He's got a decade to go in the league still.
16:21Yeah, you hope.
16:21Like, who's 35?
16:24Jimmy Butler, Kevin Durant.
16:27There you go.
16:28He doesn't even talk.
16:30James Harden.
16:31LeBron.
16:31Like, do you want to sit and listen to these guys?
16:34Russell Westbrook.
16:35Exactly.
16:37Do you really want to sit?
16:38He'd be fun.
16:39I mean, he would.
16:40I can come up with a couple guys, but they're not of that star caliber.
16:44Who?
16:44I think Brooke Lopez would be pretty good.
16:47Okay.
16:47I mean, Kenny Smith wasn't a massive name.
16:50He was a good player.
16:51But he's kind of the straight man, though, too, on that show.
16:55I'm looking for somebody who's going to be fun.
16:57I think Drew Holiday would be good.
16:59To me, he'd be more like Kenny Smith.
17:02Drew Holiday.
17:03And I would just say Brooke Lopez would be maybe a little more like Barkley and Draymond.
17:09Because Brooke's got a good sense of humor.
17:11His brother, I think, is already on NBA TV.
17:15But, yeah, no, I hear you.
17:17I mean, shoot.
17:18Al Horford?
17:20Yeah.
17:21Thank you for the guru sniff.
17:23I just think it's hard for anything for you, Sonny.
17:25No, I mean, Al Horford would be great.
17:27I'm more thinking about kind of characters.
17:31You know, guys who's a little offbeat.
17:32And, you know, the reason Draymond's so great is because the way he talks.
17:37He'll speak his mind.
17:38Right.
17:38No doubt.
17:38And I think it's harder for stars in this day and age because of social media.
17:42For sure.
17:42And I can't help but think about the story about Charles Barkley where he reportedly threw a guy through a
17:47window at a bar.
17:48And there were no cameras.
17:50There was no TMZ coverage.
17:52It was just somebody talked a little smack.
17:54Barkley got him, hoisted him, hurled him, and we were on to Cincinnati.
17:58And regretted it.
18:00Right.
18:01Went to the arraignment.
18:03The judge said, do you have anything you'd like to say?
18:07Anything you regret?
18:09He goes, yeah.
18:10Then we're on the first story.
18:13Are you kidding me?
18:15See?
18:16It's a great line.
18:17It is.
18:17But Chuck can get away with stuff that other people can't get away with because the personality is so big.
18:22But I think it's harder now for these athletes to have that big personality because, like, you know, Draymond is
18:28the captain of IDGAF.
18:31He'll say whatever he wants.
18:32You can tweet it.
18:33You can aggregate it.
18:34It doesn't matter.
18:35It's his podcast.
18:36It's his words.
18:37But there are very few of those athletes.
18:39And I think about Steph.
18:40Like, Steph probably has opinions that will never see the light of day, has thoughts and conversations and whatever in
18:49his own private life that, because of his brand,
18:51or maybe he doesn't want to be out there like Draymond.
18:54And I think that would be the case with most of these athletes.
18:57I mean, there's no doubt that when Draymond Green eventually goes to the booth or to wherever he goes in
19:03three to five years,
19:05he's got to be exactly like Barkley.
19:08He's got to be like Barkley.
19:09He's got to be tough on the younger generation, especially the younger generation that, like, star players that haven't won.
19:18He'll be all over why they aren't champions.
19:21Oh, I don't disagree with that.
19:22I just don't.
19:23I don't think anybody can be exactly like Barkley.
19:26There's a reason that he is the linchpin to the whole thing that got created.
19:32True.
19:33And it's because he's one-on-one.
19:35Like, that's a very fine line.
19:38Put it this way.
19:40If Draymond Green threw someone through a window, he'd get fired.
19:45He'd get fired from that job.
19:47If he said this.
19:48He didn't punch that kid in Michigan.
19:49I was just going to say.
19:50Yeah, but that was not while he was a broadcaster he didn't.
19:54No, that's true.
19:55I mean, I think that the quality that they both have, which I do really enjoy, and I will say,
20:01like, when Draymond makes himself available to the media, he is very honest and forthcoming.
20:06And he can be a joy.
20:09He is genuine.
20:10He is unquestionably himself at all times.
20:15And that's who Barkley is.
20:16I think that's what people like about him, is that he can be an ass.
20:20He can be funny.
20:21He can be self-deprecating.
20:23He can be critical.
20:24He can call someone who he himself is not a champion, but he can say that person does not have
20:30championship qualities.
20:31And he doesn't really care.
20:33And I do think that him and Draymond have that quality.
20:36I just don't know if Draymond will have the vulnerability to allow himself to kind of be the butt of
20:41the joke and be the buffoon.
20:42And it was partly because of Barkley and his love of golf and then the two-piece swing and all
20:47the rest of it.
20:48And then Barkley, I remember he raced Dick Bavetta.
20:52I almost went Dick LaMotta, knowing that it wasn't Dick Mata, Jake LaMotta.
20:56Forgot about that.
20:57And he raced Dick Bavetta.
20:58Kissed him on the mouth.
20:59Exactly.
20:59So that shows a certain amount of, I'm not afraid to be the butt of the joke.
21:03I don't know if Draymond has that in his repertoire.
21:06We'll see as he gets older.
21:07Charles is like, Charles is a very nice man to the people he, and actually Draymond is too.
21:15I've heard he is.
21:16Like that's, to that, you're exactly right, Evan.
21:20Authenticity is the key to the whole thing.
21:24I don't know.
21:25I don't know if Draymond, like his brand, Charles's was a little bit like this.
21:30Draymond's brand is so, it's so edgy.
21:35Yep.
21:36I just don't know if people will feel like they can touch it, you know?
21:39But Barkley's was always, from the start, a little bit more fun.
21:42You remember his nickname at Auburn?
21:44It was the round mound of rebound.
21:46Yep.
21:46And so he was just this giant bowling ball who was putting up 25 and 14, and so he kind
21:52of started with that, like, cherubic, kind of almost a cartoon character about him.
21:57And, yeah, I mean, and look where we've come.
22:00I think Barkley, to a younger generation, they have no idea how great of a player he was.
22:04Right.
22:04And, you know, they see him as this analyst who's pretty funny and clever.
22:09So Draymond could remake himself over the course of his post-career.
22:14The thing about Barkley, though, I remember reading a story about there was a guy who
22:19he met, you know, umpteen years ago in a bar, and the guy was not a basketball fan.
22:25He might have been a doctor, worked in medicine or something, and they kept up a friendship
22:29just on happenstance to the extent that when this man died, I think it was like within
22:36the last five or ten years, Barkley paid for his entire funeral service.
22:41And those kinds of things, I think, bring a level of just humanity to Charles Barkley
22:47that make, like, oh, yeah, you know, Charles can be a loudmouth and say this and say that,
22:51and I know a lot of Warriors fans don't like him because they think he's a hater.
22:54But those, reading about those kinds of stories do make me respect him a lot more.
22:59You ever watch him gamble?
23:01No.
23:02It's one of the most breathtaking things I've ever seen in my life.
23:05Because the stacks that are involved?
23:07It's so, oh, my God.
23:08It was one of the years at the Tahoe Golf Tournament.
23:10A crowd gathered.
23:12You couldn't get in there.
23:13You know the high limit room.
23:14Yep.
23:15And he's in there, but you're close enough to where you can see, like, what is being
23:20thrown around in, how long does it take to deal a blackjack hand and then see it through?
23:26Probably two minutes.
23:27Full table.
23:28If, well, ain't no full tables in the high limit room.
23:30Sure.
23:31There's two people.
23:32Just Barkley.
23:33Oh, he's playing against the dealer, that's it?
23:35Or, unless MJ was next to him.
23:38Gotcha.
23:39Just, holy.
23:40Maybe 60 seconds.
23:42Oh.
23:42Wow.
23:43Dude.
23:44I mean, you pretty much know your decision when you see your cards and you see the face
23:48card for the dealer.
23:49Yeah.
23:50Not a lot of, like, huh, you know.
23:52It's not a cogitation sensation.
23:54And where are you right now?
23:57I'm at 95-7 the game.
23:59I meant in line.
24:01A 61 still.
24:03In that case, there's no need to leave.
24:04I'm going to have to have a pop or two over here.
24:07Yeah.
24:07Jake, I've got to make sure that line can dwindle in a hurry.
24:10You know, the kingfish is about a three iron away from the Claremont DMV.
24:16The old fish.
24:17Noted.
24:18Who the hell did he find?
24:20Three iron.
24:21Anyway.
24:21I did for a while.
24:23For a while, but you don't anymore.
24:25They don't make two irons.
24:26I know.
24:26Last time I saw it was that day we golfed with Travis Schlenk.
24:29Oh, yeah.
24:30Yeah.
24:31I have a driving iron, too.
24:33That's fine.
24:33Never used it on 95-7 the game or on the course.
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