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Stefan Molyneux speaks with a caller who has been hammered by back-to-back disasters—an electrical fire that displaced his family and a car accident that involved his daughter. The man sounds exhausted and overwhelmed, but Molyneux stays steady, listening closely before guiding him toward practical resilience: accepting that pain doesn’t have to dictate the future and taking concrete steps like reaching out to build real connections and network for work when everything else feels closed off. By the end the caller’s tone shifts from defeat to quiet determination, as he starts to see a path forward—not because the problems disappear, but because he now has a clearer sense of how to begin climbing out.
Chapters:
0:00:00 Life's Challenges
0:02:10 Housing Catastrophe
0:03:15 Insurance Troubles
0:05:40 Car Accident Aftermath
0:08:14 Financial Struggles
0:10:16 Job Seeking Journey
0:17:42 Career Crossroads
0:38:26 Union Experiences
0:55:28 Political Climate Discussion
0:59:22 Finding Hope in Adversity
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Chapters:
0:00:00 Life's Challenges
0:02:10 Housing Catastrophe
0:03:15 Insurance Troubles
0:05:40 Car Accident Aftermath
0:08:14 Financial Struggles
0:10:16 Job Seeking Journey
0:17:42 Career Crossroads
0:38:26 Union Experiences
0:55:28 Political Climate Discussion
0:59:22 Finding Hope in Adversity
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00:00:00how's it going good good how you doing good good i'm really sorry about that man i uh i thought
00:00:05uh
00:00:05i thought it didn't go through but i guess it did yeah oh no sweat let's uh let's get uh
00:00:11let's get
00:00:12going just as a public call so uh please no names and places and i'm all ears how can i
00:00:17best help
00:00:17yes sir um well so uh i've calmed down a little bit since i sent that uh that request there
00:00:24i was
00:00:25you know in kind of the heat of the moment so it sounded you know pretty bad in the in
00:00:30the request
00:00:31but um you know pretty much i'm just going through you know a lot of life events at the moment
00:00:37um
00:00:38i uh i guess it'd probably be uh best to well let me think so so okay so a couple
00:00:49months ago
00:00:49i think that's where it all really kind of started um you know i i own a house with my
00:00:55my wife and my daughter uh it's a really old house and we bought a few years ago um you
00:01:02know so you
00:01:03know it's been a lot of work but you know little by little we've kind of been building it up
00:01:06and stuff
00:01:07uh but a couple months ago for thanksgiving we were we're having like a we're having a little
00:01:12thanksgiving a party i was getting things ready and um i was basically pressure washing the outside
00:01:19of the house and um water uh there was a like i said the house is very old so the
00:01:27um we had like
00:01:29an electrical box the the utility box outside it had some corrosion on the side of it and i didn't
00:01:35notice and some water got in as i was pressure washing and um the utility box basically exploded
00:01:42um and we had an electrical fire um so you know both my wife and i we work full time
00:01:51and uh it's been really hard kind of making ends meet and we we live out here alone um so
00:01:58uh it was kind of a huge setback because you know the insurance people had to get involved
00:02:04and yada yada and we we basically have been out of the house for a few months now
00:02:11um and that was kind of what started this whole thing like you know we've been displaced from my
00:02:17house and and you know we're kind of struggling to um make ends meet um and uh just a week
00:02:26ago
00:02:26a couple weeks ago um i was driving with my daughter and um we got into in a really bad
00:02:34car accident
00:02:34as well so it just feels like all these things are just compounding in my life um and yeah man
00:02:43i just
00:02:43i don't i don't know like like i don't really have anyone to turn to for sort of advice in
00:02:49this kind of
00:02:49situation um and just kind of how to start digging myself out of this hole that i'm in because
00:02:56you know now we have all these expenses and it just feels like you know we don't really know
00:03:05like i don't really know how to like handle all this you know all at once so um i was
00:03:13just sorry
00:03:13to hear about that that's that's that's very tough indeed um what's happening with the insurance in
00:03:18the house so they are they covering it is it being repaired or how's that going yeah it's it's been
00:03:23it's been a weird process because like they're kind of you know they've been nice about a lot of
00:03:27things and they're really like they're they're helping me out with a lot but at the same time
00:03:32they they're just very like the whole process has been super slow um and they the between them and the
00:03:38contractors it's just like this constant back and forth type thing um but but they just take forever
00:03:45man it's been what you know the the the fire originally just kind of burned part of a wall down
00:03:51and then um and then you know i thought it was just going to be basically fixing the electrical
00:03:56and fixing that the wall of the kitchen that basically burned down but then they found like
00:04:02a bunch of water damage on the floor and they decided to cover that as well or whatever but
00:04:09that's unrelated to your pressure spraying right uh to my what sorry your power spraying like your
00:04:16pressure washing it's unrelated to that the other the water damage yeah so basically the insurance
00:04:21lady when she went out there she found the water damage and she was like oh hey we're gonna cover
00:04:26we're gonna uh do the the flooring for you you get me but when they ripped out the floor then
00:04:31they
00:04:32found asbestos under the floor and i'm just like oh my god so then they have to like basically they
00:04:38had to treat for the asbestos and then between all of this i mean like i said this was all
00:04:43the way
00:04:43back in november you know we're now in february and it's been like the the insurance lady going on
00:04:49vacation and it's just like it just feels like it never ends you know so we've been out of my
00:04:53house
00:04:54um yeah since then basically and sorry i've never gone through this process so is it that they're not
00:05:02releasing the money to pay for the repairs or the repairs are taking a long time or what's the delay
00:05:07yeah yeah that's pretty much the so it's it's kind of both so they've released some money to me
00:05:14and and it kind of it's like a slow crawl where like they they release some money they do some
00:05:20work
00:05:20they release some money they do some work but it's very like the communication between them and the
00:05:26contractors is very bad as well like the contractors will send an email to the insurance lady and then
00:05:33i'll reach out to her and i'm like did you get the email she'll say she didn't and then it's
00:05:37just
00:05:37like this back and forth where i'm just like the middle man or whatever um so you know that just
00:05:42adds
00:05:42a whole new a whole nother level of stress to the whole situation but and where are you staying
00:05:49luckily enough i have like a friend a really good friend of mine that they had a um um like
00:05:55a house
00:05:56basically like a vacation home that they that they weren't using it's it's her his his his mother-in-law's
00:06:02vacation home um so this is where i've been staying for now okay well that's that's handy
00:06:08and uh gosh what happened with the car accident yeah man so dude i i work full-time i i
00:06:16basically
00:06:16drive um you know i i i do pest control at the moment and i i drive eight hours a
00:06:23day like i and
00:06:24i've never had a car accident other than when i was like 18 years old that was over 10 years
00:06:29ago
00:06:29um you know when i had just gotten a new car or whatever uh but i've never had any sort
00:06:35of uh
00:06:35issue with with my driving record or anything like that the only thing i've ever gotten it was one
00:06:40one speeding ticket going like 10 miles over or something um and uh dude i don't know it was just
00:06:47like
00:06:47the perfect storm of crap um i was um i was taking my my daughter to gymnastics class
00:06:55um and it had just snowed um it had just snowed here where i live it never snows never like
00:07:02we get
00:07:02maybe one snow a year um and you know i was taking her to gymnastics class um as i was
00:07:09driving there
00:07:10my wife calls me because um because uh my daughter left her water bottle at home um and so i
00:07:19go to turn
00:07:20i basically go to make a left turn to turn around and go back home to pick it up and
00:07:25um as i'm trying
00:07:27to turn the sun is beating down on on my face basically my daughter is yelling in the back seat
00:07:33um i have two cars merging in an intersection on my right and i don't know what happened in that
00:07:41moment
00:07:41from the reflection of the sun or whatever there was a car coming on the opposite lane and i
00:07:47completely did not see it i took the turn and we basically got t-boned and my daughter was in
00:07:54the
00:07:54back seat and it was you know absolutely terrifying um but you know thank god she's good you know she
00:07:59we were all good in terms of more health um but yeah the car is total you know um so
00:08:07it's and we owed
00:08:08money on that car as well so it's just like i don't know it's just like too much you know
00:08:14well
00:08:15well and of course that's even more time with insurance um was anybody injured no no we no one
00:08:22was injured my daughter we were both good um and no one in the other truck was injured either in
00:08:28the
00:08:29in the other car that hit us um but but the insurance isn't covering any um basically yeah
00:08:38oh is it because you're at fault yeah partly because i'm at fault and also because um my i was
00:08:46driving my my wife's car and i wasn't on the insurance for that car oh gosh okay okay yeah yeah
00:08:55dope that's uh that's tough that's yeah i never you know i also like like i said we had a
00:09:02loan on the
00:09:03car and um i never really questioned my wife about the insurance because the car was under her name
00:09:09and all that and i never really thought about it too much but um i always kind of assumed in
00:09:14the back
00:09:14of my mind that the insurance would cover it would be a full coverage because she still owed money on
00:09:20the
00:09:20car so usually you know the bank won't let you have a loan without that or whatever but i guess
00:09:26sorry sorry i uh i missed some of the subtlety there so yes you thought that you would be covered
00:09:32because the car was still being paid off yeah because uh you know at least in the back of my
00:09:39mind i just thought like hey like when you owe money on a car when when it's um you know
00:09:44when it's a
00:09:45um when you're when you're when you're still paying off a loan on a car like the bank will usually
00:09:51not let you you like you have to be insured right you get it you get me but that was
00:09:56just kind of in
00:09:56the back of my mind i never really thought to ask my wife about any of this i just kind
00:10:00of you know
00:10:01so you didn't uh you didn't know if your insurance company covered third-party drivers
00:10:06uh right exactly okay got it got it yeah oof that's that's tough that's tough and uh so so how
00:10:15are you
00:10:16feeling now well i'm you know i'm a little bit better so i've been kind of racking my mind um
00:10:22just kind of like trying to figure out what i'm gonna do but um you know i'm i've been applying
00:10:28to
00:10:29a bunch of jobs because my my current job just isn't really gonna cut it you know so i'm gonna
00:10:34have
00:10:34to basically work you know an extra job um and and then um and then probably find another part-time
00:10:43to do overtime with or you know if if that job doesn't give me overtime but i have uh
00:10:49um a uh an interview lined up for next week um so you know there's something to look forward to
00:10:56hopefully i can get i can get that job that should pay me a little bit better and then i'm
00:11:01thinking of
00:11:02just working a bunch of extra hours i guess um you know over time but and that's to make up
00:11:10for the car
00:11:11in in particular right the car yeah because i feel really guilty because again it's my wife's it was
00:11:17my my wife's car you know and she'd been paying off for a long time um so and and you
00:11:24know also we
00:11:24we also have a little bit of debt as well that i need to finish paying off but okay okay
00:11:31all right
00:11:32and yeah the car was total so your your daughter fortunately was in the back did it hit the passenger
00:11:38side is that way yeah it hit it hit her directly exactly where she was sitting oh it did hit
00:11:43her
00:11:43where she was sitting but he wasn't going fast enough to do her any injuries to do my side airbags
00:11:48and stuff like that yeah we have thank god we have we had it was a really good car so
00:11:52yeah well you
00:11:54know it's funny because uh i i generally think it's worth paying for extra safety features because
00:12:00you know cars are replaceable life is not so uh it sounds like you made a good decision
00:12:05as far as that went yeah yeah it was a good it was a box wagon um so okay that
00:12:12german engineering
00:12:13saved us for sure now sorry i i don't want to start because i don't want to start philosophizing
00:12:21if there's more that you wanted to mention but i'm certainly happy to give feedback i'm happy to
00:12:25hear more whatever works best for you um yeah you can go ahead you can go ahead okay so this
00:12:33is sort
00:12:33of my big old guy perspective because you're right in the thick of things and that it's tough and it
00:12:40feels like it's a endless you know life it's funny there's there was a cartoon i saw many years ago
00:12:48it's it's two guys watching a bunch of demons marching down the street and it says ah it's just
00:12:54one goddamn thing after another and it does sort of feel like they that way in life there are times
00:13:00where things are relatively smooth sailing there are other times where things cluster you know it's
00:13:05kind of like uh if you play a game with two dice like two six-sided dice every now and
00:13:12then you're
00:13:12just going to get five twos in a row whereas you know in the long run it kind of evens
00:13:17out but there's
00:13:18going to be clusters so there are times in life where things cluster together i mean i had i've had
00:13:26i've had entire years where i get one nagging injury after another or one minor health issue
00:13:31after another and it just and then there've been other times where it's it's pretty smooth sailing
00:13:36so just recognize in life that there are going to be times when things just by coincidence they just
00:13:43kind of cluster together so just be aware of that and it's not a curse or anything like that because
00:13:50we tend to remember remember the negative not all of the neutral and the positive so that's the first
00:13:58thing that i would work to remind you the second thing is that statistically people are going to get
00:14:05involved in two car accidents over the course of their lives you know in just you know 40 50 years
00:14:12of driving or whatever people are doing sometimes 60 years of driving you're going to get involved
00:14:17in two tangles now of course that's just an average and so on and maybe it's changed this is like
00:14:22from
00:14:22decades ago but uh so if you're going to get involved in two tangles and you know maybe maybe
00:14:31you'll only get one right because a lot of times after you get your first one you're even more
00:14:36careful and cautious and so on so if you get involved in a car accident where no one is hurt
00:14:45you get on your knees and you thank the gods my brother yeah that's what i was doing when when
00:14:52when uh when i got out of the car with my daughter dude i was i was just hugging her
00:14:56you know looking
00:14:57at her in the face and i was like i was very thankful so yes so um you know like
00:15:04everyone
00:15:05everyone gets lumps in their body over the course of their life and if it's not cancer you get on
00:15:11your
00:15:11knees and you thank the gods right but but you don't get to compare a life with no problems or
00:15:17no
00:15:17accidents now of course it sounds like uh you made mistakes in both cases and mistakes are
00:15:27natural right they're gonna happen and it sounds like the first mistake you made was to put high
00:15:34pressure water into a rusty electrical box is that right that's that's correct yes right now
00:15:41that could have saved your life uh sorry what's that that could have saved your life
00:15:47what do you mean well you got asbestos oh right right right yeah well yeah i mean sort of the
00:15:56way
00:15:56that they explained it was basically the asbestos was like under the floor or whatever um and uh it
00:16:02wasn't like exposed to the air so it wasn't until they ripped out the floor that you know but yeah
00:16:08i guess
00:16:09well who knows right i mean uh wear and tear year over year maybe stuff some stuff escapes maybe not
00:16:16i don't know right but it could have saved your life and the other thing too is that if you
00:16:19have
00:16:20a rusty old electrical box at some point a bad storm a bad rain a hard rain a windy rain
00:16:28might have caused a short circuit and set fire to your house while you're sleeping
00:16:33yes yes yes we yeah we talked about that yeah that's true so there's a great line
00:16:41never underestimate how much worse luck your bad luck has saved you from right right yeah
00:16:48and again look this doesn't make everything great but life is it's in general it's kind of a
00:16:56it's kind of a shit show with redeeming moments if that makes sense yeah life is life is tough life
00:17:02is a slog lots of things go wrong and lots of things go right and these like when was the
00:17:09last time
00:17:09you had major negatives like this in the past um yeah well i like i guess things like this that
00:17:16like um like that would have such a major impact um i'm probably probably never in my life
00:17:23this bad you in your 20s or 30s or some other decade yeah i'm 28 28 okay all right so
00:17:32you managed
00:17:32to go 10 years in adulthood without any major problems yeah bro that's great yeah yeah yeah
00:17:43it's great and it's terrible of course it's great because you got 10 years with no major problems
00:17:50it's terrible because that sets up your expectation in life that you shouldn't have major problems
00:17:56right right it's sort of like uh when you're young you never really think about your health
00:18:03right like when i was uh in my 20s i went like i don't know eight years without seeing a
00:18:08dentist or
00:18:09something like that and i like now i have to go three times a year right yeah and so and
00:18:16my teeth are
00:18:16pretty good but you know things things change now of course you know 28 is not like you're like me
00:18:22uh
00:18:23i'm almost twice that age over twice that age so you got used to there not being any particular or
00:18:30significant problems and you know one of the things that can happen if things go well for a long time
00:18:39is you lose some of your caution right so if you've driven you said you drive eight hours a day
00:18:47in the pest control business so one of the things that can happen of course is you say well i'm
00:18:53such
00:18:53a good driver i mean look at look at my driving record i've been driving for over a decade i
00:18:58drive
00:18:58eight hours a day never have any problems and so it is you know somewhat easy to get a little
00:19:05overconfident right yeah that's true that's true i definitely like after after the whole thing
00:19:11happened i just you know i kind of realized that you know um you know i definitely sometimes
00:19:19uh drive a little bit erratic and you know not not erratic but but i i you know i feel
00:19:27like i've been
00:19:27in in a lot of situations driving that i've had to be sort of defensive and stuff and so i
00:19:32kind of feel
00:19:33very um uh comfortable you know i don't i never really feel like any sense of danger when i'm
00:19:40driving so i guess maybe that could have contributed to it yeah i mean i was in a i was
00:19:46uh i wasn't
00:19:46driving but i was in a car uh it was a truck that flipped on a gravel road and went
00:19:53like i don't know
00:19:55a couple hundred yards on its roof on on gravel uh so i'm i'm a jumpy driver which you know
00:20:02i think is
00:20:02is good uh it does make driving its head uncomfortable and i'm i'm sort of interested in
00:20:08in this uh automated automated driving thing but it will remind you of course as everybody should
00:20:16remember when they're driving that you're you know three or four thousand pound bomb you are you're
00:20:21moving around a three or four thousand pound bomb you know full of gasoline now let me ask you
00:20:26this when you were turning left to go and get the water bottle or to make a u-turn did
00:20:32you just kind
00:20:33of dart out did no no hang on let me let me finish if the other driver had been fully
00:20:39alert and aware
00:20:40and driving defensively would he have had a chance to uh stop or at least slow down um i so
00:20:51uh so um as i so okay so i was driving actually very carefully that day like i said because
00:20:56because
00:20:57it had snowed and here it never snows so i was actually pretty concerned about any sort of ice
00:21:02and stuff like that yeah so i was i was driving like an old lady dude like i was right
00:21:07i just i know
00:21:08your name and the fact that you were concerned about ice a whole different thing a whole different thing
00:21:13i got it you know actually it's funny because i'm from i'm from venezuela um i know
00:21:19so um but um but yeah like this whole ice thing is just ridiculous but anyway um uh the yeah
00:21:27i went
00:21:28to uh i had well i had a i had a white uh white lady reach out to my wife
00:21:32the other day uh one of
00:21:33these liberal white ladies and she was like oh you know we're so concerned about you and your family
00:21:39and um how uh you know these uh these like legal migrants are getting picked up from the streets and
00:21:46my wife you know my wife looks way more hispanic than i do and she was just like what the
00:21:51fuck are
00:21:51you talking about like no one's getting picked up like no one's well you know you know that this
00:21:56like somebody who's locked into cnn and just getting wound up like a top right yeah yeah yeah it's absurd
00:22:03it's okay so sorry i took you on a side quest so you were you were talking about ice uh
00:22:08on the roads
00:22:09and you were driving super carefully and what happened yeah and so and so then i i you know i
00:22:14went to
00:22:15make that left turn into like a parking lot just so i could turn around in the parking lot and
00:22:19i was
00:22:19like i was full stopped with with my blinkers on you know um and as i as i took the
00:22:25turn i took it
00:22:26slowly because again i literally just did not see from the reflection i did not see a car at all
00:22:31but i think i think she was too close i think she was too close when i decided to take
00:22:37the turn
00:22:37for her to have been able like i think what what she did you know she was like a lady
00:22:42in her 40s
00:22:43not the kind of person that i would say would would have the reaction time that someone like
00:22:49you know younger nowadays you know if it would have been like a young guy maybe but um but you
00:22:56know
00:22:56she was in her 40s i think she was very nervous as well like i could tell like after the
00:23:01accident
00:23:01she was super like jittery so i like she probably wasn't the best driver in that sense you know
00:23:07right yeah because sometimes uh like we've all been everyone who drives has been in the situation
00:23:16where if you hadn't been alert there would have been an accident
00:23:20right right so everyone's had that person turn into their path everyone's had that person who pulls
00:23:26out ahead of you everyone's had that person and and you know you know you drive right so you you
00:23:31can see
00:23:32uh these idiots uh who are weaving in and out of traffic and gunning it forward and and uh my
00:23:39wife
00:23:40is like please go have your accident somewhere else that's a sort of big phrase please go have
00:23:44your accident somewhere else and if if there's a dangerous driver around i will pull into a side
00:23:50road for a minute or two and just let them go have their accident somewhere else because i don't
00:23:54want to be anywhere near somebody i'm not putting you in that category but what i'm saying is that
00:23:58everyone has had their experience where if you hadn't been more alert you would have been in an
00:24:04accident and we we sometimes give that gift to other drivers and sometimes other drivers give that gift
00:24:11to us so sometimes we cover for other drivers mistakes i mean everyone's had usually at some point
00:24:21somebody running a red and it's really dangerous or you're coming to a stop this this happens quite a
00:24:27bit you're coming to a four-way stop and someone doesn't notice the stop sign and blows right
00:24:33through it and you have to stop halfway in the intersection and now of course we can all get
00:24:39outraged and and that's fine you know sometimes drivers are just pretty bad we can all get outraged
00:24:44but on the other hand sometimes we save other people from their own bad decisions and sometimes
00:24:49other people save us from our bad decisions because you know everybody makes mistakes when driving
00:24:55and so usually like a real accident is i'm not saying it's both equally uh equal parties fault but
00:25:02generally if i drive like everyone is drunk uh texting and uh blind out of one eye or something
00:25:10like that but i assume everyone is going to make a mistake like i assume and i i sort of
00:25:16told this to
00:25:17my daughter and like so if if you're going to turn right and there's a car that's coming up on
00:25:24your
00:25:24left on on your side of the road like on the perpendicular right so you're going to turn right
00:25:30there's a car coming on your left down the road and he's got a signal on now what what percentage
00:25:35of
00:25:35time is that guy actually going to turn right you know 90 95 percent maybe 98 percent but i never
00:25:42assume
00:25:42it they could have just left their blinker on yeah i see what you're saying right so so i i
00:25:49drive
00:25:49like everyone is incompetent and of course occasionally i make bad decisions and and so on right
00:25:56and that's i think it's called i take defensive driving to a level of really jumpy paranoia but
00:26:02whatever that's just my that's my style man and so uh yeah i just wanted to sort of probe about
00:26:07that
00:26:07because sometimes an accident uh can can be the result of yes you made a mistake but the other
00:26:14person didn't have the alertness to save you from your mistake and that doesn't make it their false
00:26:20of course but there's usually a coincidence of some a mistake with also some inattentiveness
00:26:29yeah no i think i think she was she was uh relatively attentive because she she got the chance to
00:26:34slam
00:26:34the brakes before she hit me at least um right so good for us you know yeah and then there
00:26:41are some
00:26:41times where you just there's nothing you can do because the other person has just especially with
00:26:46the with the with the ice right cause causing the problems so right okay so uh so yeah looking at
00:26:53those kinds of things um usually when there's a bad accident it's a result of a whole combination
00:26:59of factors and so with your house the factor was well first of all knowing this weakness in your
00:27:06house and finding it out with the pressure washer was better than water getting into your electrical
00:27:12outlet when you're sleeping or or even if you're away right so if you're away for the day there's a
00:27:19bad storm at your house your wife and daughter are away and then there's a fire and whatever right like
00:27:25it it creeps inside the house and you know maybe you just lose a whole bunch of belongings and photos
00:27:30and computers or whatever it is right and furniture so that stuff can be really bad and heaven forbid if
00:27:35you're sleeping and there's some kind of uh electrical fire and then um maybe a smoke alarm doesn't kick
00:27:44in or whatever it is right so so it could be it could be really bad and the asbestos thing
00:27:50you're right it's probably kind of inert but it's pretty good to get rid of it nonetheless so there's
00:27:56plus there do you have any idea when the house stuff's going to be done are we still on oh
00:28:02i bet
00:28:02maybe his phone died maybe his phone died all right well i'll uh talk a little bit here about
00:28:10generally the philosophy of mishaps in life so mishaps i mean assuming that they're not really
00:28:19damaging or fatal mishaps are a kind of inoculation in that mishaps teach you to be
00:28:27more careful right and this is sort of how it works when you're a kid right you're a kid and
00:28:32you're
00:28:33you're biking and you know like most kids you're like hey i wonder if i can bike hands free right
00:28:38and
00:28:39maybe you do it and maybe you do it well maybe you do it badly and if you do it
00:28:42badly then of course
00:28:44there's a certain amount of caution that you end up exercising because you fell and did and did bad
00:28:52things to your knee or your elbow or something like that so you were taught a certain amount of
00:28:57caution so when i was uh in my 20s i was swimming i was scuba diving sorry i was skin
00:29:06diving which is
00:29:07snorkel snorkel diving and i swam into a wreck and as i was swimming into the wreck just to sort
00:29:13of
00:29:13poke my head around which is kind of dumb of course actually very dumb i swam into a wreck and
00:29:20then as i
00:29:20was swimming in i realized that there was a very strong current through the hole and then getting
00:29:24out of that wreck against the current coming in through the hole was really tough and i i still have
00:29:31the scar i gouged the hell out of my arm getting out of that undersea wreck and of course i
00:29:37only had
00:29:38my breath to sustain me so it was bad and of course don't ever go into into wrecks alone and
00:29:45don't ever
00:29:45go into wrecks when you don't have any breathing apparatus so there was all of that but it taught me
00:29:52to
00:29:52be a very careful hey sorry no no problem i was just vamping a little bit so uh sorry uh
00:29:59i was asking
00:30:00you uh how long do you think it might be until the house stuff is done um dude um i
00:30:07uh i think uh
00:30:09hopefully within a month from this point i think it'll probably be done um they just finished the
00:30:16asbestos thing or whatever so yeah i mean if they can do the flooring and the electrical
00:30:24within a month i think i think they should be able to get that done okay okay well that's good
00:30:31that's yeah now just uh as kind of an aside here um because i because i think this kind of
00:30:37you know plays into kind of my my mental space in a lot of things because you know i
00:30:46i'm the kind of person that overthinks things a lot and um and one one thing that i've been having
00:30:52a lot of trouble with over the years is um you know getting a career going um i uh you
00:31:02know i i
00:31:02basically bounced around jobs a little bit when i was um i went to college for psychology and then
00:31:09when i after i graduated college um you know i was i was between getting a master's degree
00:31:15or just going into the workforce um but sorry sorry let me just interrupt you there so of course
00:31:22an undergrad psych degree doesn't get you much of anything right so do you mean that you were
00:31:26planning on doing a master's so you could end up practicing psychology yes that's right so i was
00:31:31yeah when i when i graduated uh with my undergrad um i you know i was between those two options
00:31:40of
00:31:40just either starting work in something um or going into a master's degree um and then you know my wife
00:31:48basically got pregnant at that time but we we got pregnant so um you know in that moment i was
00:31:56you
00:31:56know i had some student loans already and and i wasn't really your your house wasn't the first
00:32:02place where you may have sprayed inappropriately okay got it got it yes sir um i was you know i
00:32:10obviously more conscious about the uh the latter than the than the house but um but yeah i mean
00:32:17anyway um so at that point you know i i ended up going into the workforce because i i like
00:32:22you said
00:32:23like with an undergrad and psych you can't really do anything um and then i also had like a lot
00:32:27of
00:32:28loans and stuff so i didn't really feel comfortable taking out more loans at that point
00:32:34and you know i i think it would have been just just a really complicated situation with my wife
00:32:40uh being pregnant pregnant and then me me trying to like do this whole degree thing you know yeah
00:32:46because i think psych can be two years for the master's then you have to get a job and then
00:32:51maybe
00:32:52you can get paid but also you have to get mentored for i don't know how it is where you
00:32:56are but you have
00:32:57to get mentored for quite some time like and then you got to write even more exams like it's a
00:33:01whole deal
00:33:02exactly yeah yeah so so i ended up you know start i i started working construction and i did that
00:33:07for
00:33:07a couple of years sorry for where okay just working construction oh yeah okay yeah um and i did that
00:33:14for a couple of years um you know i i i hate it like i just found it very difficult
00:33:21um especially
00:33:22during the winters and stuff i would just be constantly getting sick and um i don't know i guess
00:33:28it's just like uh i just have a weak immune system or something um sorry what do you mean like
00:33:32what
00:33:32the sickness was related to working what you're working inside or outside or why would you get
00:33:38sick with construction yeah whenever i was like out in the in the winter in the cold um i don't
00:33:44know
00:33:44why but i would just i would just constantly sick all the time um and like you mean like cold
00:33:50flus that kind of stuff yeah flus and it was just kicking my ass like i i honestly i felt
00:33:55like i was
00:33:56like i don't know slowly dying or something because i would be sick literally every like
00:34:00three weeks i'd be getting sick with something and like sick enough to not work or just like go in
00:34:05and
00:34:05be miserable yeah miserable i mean if i did work you know yeah it's is hell but um and i
00:34:12went to a
00:34:12doctor a bunch of times for it they couldn't really find anything specific they you know they just kind
00:34:16of said like hey it's probably just your genetics or whatever you just you're more predisposed to
00:34:20illness or something right um and it was like real illness i mean i was getting like strep throat like
00:34:26strep throats and stuff i would have to be on antibiotics and everything um but you know
00:34:31eventually i i started doing like a coding boot camp thing and i just kind of picked up the
00:34:38programming thing because i was like okay i need to like pivot and and that was kind of like around
00:34:42covid time and it was like you know the whole the whole coding thing was like there was a big
00:34:47buzz
00:34:47around that so i thought okay maybe i can do that you know i've never been amazing at math uh
00:34:54but but
00:34:54i'm i'm you know i'm a logical thinker and i felt like okay maybe i can i can figure this
00:34:59thing out you
00:34:59know um so i did um i did that for a few months and i i built like some little
00:35:06personal product like
00:35:07some projects for a portfolio and stuff and i ended up landing a gig and i worked um you know
00:35:13two years
00:35:14for that company um i figured you know i learned a lot working that job and stuff but then uh
00:35:21around
00:35:22the time that covid ended um i uh i got laid off and you know it wasn't just me i
00:35:30got laid off with
00:35:31like 30 other people from that company but um after that i just couldn't find another job in tech
00:35:38you know i was oh yeah you and everyone else right yeah i applied you know tons and tons of
00:35:44jobs um
00:35:45again my my my uh my my um background in tech was very limited because yeah i had two years
00:35:53of
00:35:53experience working but my portfolio was just like little projects that i had worked on it wasn't like
00:36:00i had like a you know formal degree in computer science or whatever right uh so it was very hard
00:36:06to find anything so that's why i ended up going uh into pest control because it was literally like
00:36:10the only place that i got a call back from and i was like what is going on you know
00:36:15um but i you know
00:36:18i started doing this thing and i've been doing this for like maybe a year now and and i've you
00:36:24know i've
00:36:24kind of been racking my brain trying to figure out like what else i should like because because i don't
00:36:29see myself having a career in this at all um and i just don't feel like i just don't enjoy
00:36:35it you
00:36:35know i just find it to be something that's just like it's just mind-numbing to me uh personally
00:36:40you know i just don't i don't like it um but i i recently got into uh a union um
00:36:48for a you know
00:36:49electric an electrician union um and you know i just thought like maybe that would also that would
00:36:55kind of work for me because it kind of appeals to my sort of logical side a little bit i
00:37:00do you
00:37:00know um i do like to work you know hands-on things as well so you know i figured maybe
00:37:08that
00:37:08would appeal to me um but it's just been very like basically i've been in the union for four
00:37:14months now and there's just no jobs dude like they just yeah they haven't found any jobs like
00:37:20and i'm just like okay like i don't get like i don't know what i have to do i just
00:37:25i just want to
00:37:26work you know like i just want a job dude but but i don't know it just feels really hard
00:37:31nowadays
00:37:32with like everything it just feels like it's hard to just work you know and and build a lot a
00:37:39normal
00:37:39life you know oh it's horrible yeah no it's it's it's genuinely horrible out there yeah it's just it
00:37:46just sucks because like you know as a man it makes me feel so like shitty that you know i
00:37:51have my wife
00:37:52and she works a lot you know and we both work really hard and it just it just feels like
00:37:57it's
00:37:57so hard to like get anywhere dude i don't know um but but just in general i guess like um
00:38:05you know
00:38:05i applied i basically uh got like uh an interview with um at&t for a like um basically just
00:38:13like as
00:38:13an installation technician or whatever um next week um and i was just wondering what you thought
00:38:20like in general like should i do you think i should just bail on the electrician thing and just
00:38:25do that instead um because i feel like it would probably be more of a steady job you know so
00:38:33uh i don't
00:38:34quite understand the electricians union thing so you're in the union and then so you've gone through
00:38:39the training right well i've done you know i i just got in this year i've done um like these
00:38:45last
00:38:46four months of of school basically i'm doing uh it's training twice a week and then whenever they
00:38:52they find you a job you start working you know and when i joined they were like super excited like
00:38:59they seemed like they hyped me up they were like oh yeah you know um you're gonna be able to
00:39:04finish
00:39:04in four years and there's all this opportunity and all this and all that and that i'm in here and
00:39:10there's like 20 other guys in my class and no one's working and i'm just like yeah i know and
00:39:16the problem is of course as you know when when people get desperate the scams go through the roof
00:39:22right yes yeah and that's almost how it feels it almost feels like i got scammed into this thing
00:39:28because i i feel like i've given more money to the union than anything that i've gotten from it if
00:39:34you understand oh yeah yeah what i'm you know um so it's just it's just like you know this kind
00:39:41of
00:39:42just adds to everything that i'm dealing with because it's not just like stress in my life in
00:39:47general things that are happening to me but it's also just like like man i need to like be able
00:39:51to
00:39:51pay my bills i need to be able to like support my family and it just feels like you know
00:39:57it just
00:39:58feels like there's very little opportunity man right yeah i i remember when um when i had uh
00:40:08when there was a it was the 90s i guess and there was this really bad recession and i remember
00:40:13just
00:40:14trying to get work and and uh it was it just felt it felt impossible like and this is the
00:40:19sort of
00:40:20summer i ended up i had to like weed gardens i had to clean people's cars you know it was
00:40:25just
00:40:25it was just crazy you know and i had a good education and all of that and uh it was
00:40:30um it
00:40:30was brutal when it came to uh that kind of stuff so yeah that i mean i i really sympathize
00:40:37with all
00:40:38of that and it is very tough and again uh i remember there was a place that was like hey
00:40:44we've got jobs
00:40:45right and and i was like okay i gave them a call and it's like okay that's nice uh what
00:40:50kind of jobs
00:40:50and they're like don't worry man just come on down we've got jobs and you know i couldn't get any
00:40:56answers and all that kind of stuff and so yeah as as the desperation goes up uh so doth the
00:41:02scamminess right yeah it feels like it honestly feels like it's like a scam economy at this point
00:41:08i mean i i apply to so many jobs online and half of like the calls i get are just
00:41:13people trying to
00:41:13you know steal money or or even this like it feels like everyone i don't know even even when you
00:41:22find
00:41:22like a job that's an actual job it feels like you're being treated by the companies in such a
00:41:29sleazy way half the time now where they're trying to like make sure you know i mean you know obviously
00:41:36it's a company they're trying to make a profit and all that and they're trying to make sure that
00:41:39all their ducks are in a row but but it feels like they are like like hyper aware of every
00:41:47little
00:41:47thing that you're doing as an employee and trying to latch on to any little thing that you do to
00:41:52to
00:41:53not pay you in full or whatever you know oh yeah no it's horrible and um yeah i i really
00:41:59do sympathize
00:42:00with that and you know we can get mad at these companies and that sort of makes sense to some
00:42:04degree
00:42:04but also you know they are trying to make money in a horrible economy too and of course you kind
00:42:09of got to cut corners that way as well and nobody's particularly happy with it at least not if they've
00:42:14got any integrity but it's really it's really it's a tough it's a tough tough situation out there for
00:42:19jobs you know i mean you you of course you don't know how much of this stuff is just general
00:42:24demoralization stuff but there is of course you know so all these say i set out this many resumes i
00:42:28got
00:42:28this many uh replies and you know it's really it's like that guy who kept track of how many times
00:42:33his wife refused him for sex and it's just you know it's depressing as hell to look at that kind
00:42:38of stuff yeah yeah yeah and i you know i don't know what do you think um i should do
00:42:45then like
00:42:45sort of in my situation um you know just just knowing my background a little bit what i told you
00:42:52like what do you what would you suggest like what do you think you would do in my in my
00:42:58situation
00:42:59well uh i'm a big one for like just stay in the workplace no matter what okay because if you've
00:43:05got big holes in your resume uh that is tough for employers uh employ employers uh to to sort of
00:43:12process and and deal with if that makes sense so i'm a big one for like just stay in in
00:43:18the workplace
00:43:19you know uh uh i i remember you know like saying like i i'll do anything you know like just
00:43:24just
00:43:25i'll move you know i remember i wanted a job with computers it's like i'll move computers i'll dust
00:43:29computers i'll clean computers you know just anything right yeah so i think staying in the
00:43:34workplace is really key uh because the moment you get out it's really really tough uh it's really
00:43:40tough to get back in yeah that's that's how i was thinking about it and that's why i ended up
00:43:45doing
00:43:45this pest control thing even though it's something i was like okay like but i mean obviously i needed work
00:43:51no matter what anyway because i have a family so i don't have the you know the luxury of just
00:43:55being
00:43:56you know if i were single i don't care if i'm homeless but i can't really be in that situation
00:44:00when i have a kid you know right right no um so yeah i would say stay in the workplace
00:44:06uh no matter
00:44:07what uh that would be my advice um the other thing of course is when when the economy is bad
00:44:13uh you know what really matters like crazy is your contacts uh and of course i have uh i'm sure
00:44:22of
00:44:22course i think you don't need me telling you this but you know and anyone that you ever had anything
00:44:27to do with you know you gotta put it out there and try and really get them to uh you
00:44:32know see if
00:44:33they can get you some work or something like that yeah i mean unfortunately i'm not like i've never
00:44:38really been a very you know outgoing person in that sense you know um i've always kind of like
00:44:45been pretty introverted when it comes to all that um so i'm not like the kind of person that just
00:44:50has
00:44:50like all these people that i know or whatever um but yeah i mean i feel you no but i
00:44:57i get that and
00:44:58and i i'm not a networker at all i don't really network i've always kind of hated it because you
00:45:04know
00:45:04it's always struck me as you know kind of super fake you know like hey have you been you know
00:45:08that
00:45:09kind of stuff and and uh i prefer of course things to be slightly more organic in my relationships
00:45:15so i i get that but you know this is one of these things like when the economy is tough
00:45:19you got to do
00:45:20things that don't feel you know particularly uh comfortable or um that you feel would be particularly
00:45:27natural to you as a whole so right so um yeah you just you just you know anyone i i
00:45:34do think that
00:45:35the the electrician thing i've never been a big fan of unions uh i'm fine with unions in general
00:45:40icon principle but the reality is that unions tend to be um uh well they're looking out for their own
00:45:47right yeah and you know there's tons of people in these unions that have um uh they have a
00:45:56jobs for their own folks right right and you know if if it's uh if it's that bad uh that
00:46:05that
00:46:05you know it's really hard to get work then it's going to be really hard to get work for all
00:46:10of
00:46:10the existing union people as well yeah yeah so you know i think it's just part it's just all tied
00:46:16to
00:46:17the um just the current um state of the economy i guess you know that there's just not that much
00:46:25work
00:46:25because like the the unions usually get hired by like the bigger companies that are building
00:46:31uh new uh big industrial it's a you know we do most mostly like industrial electrical work
00:46:38um and i guess if you know if there's not much of that going on in my state then it's
00:46:44kind of is
00:46:45what it is you know um but you know i'm thinking of just doing the at&t thing and then
00:46:51just you know
00:46:52if i do get that position and then just grinding that you know yeah that's uh i think that's totally
00:46:58fine no uh i would yeah whatever you can do to stay in the workplace is general is good and
00:47:05i would
00:47:06also stay in the workplace with the general idea that you are going to use this for contacts
00:47:15right right right yes so you know i mean if you're going to go into at&t uh i assume
00:47:20with at&t
00:47:21you're going to meet some people who are pretty good at uh at a business because you know they're
00:47:24they're able to survive in a difficult economy right so if you can uh find those people then maybe
00:47:32uh those people can help you to uh get a get a job if if they like you and i'm
00:47:36sure they will
00:47:37right a personable fellow so i would say that if you can um get uh into this uh organization
00:47:45organization and then you can uh you know get people who you like to work with they like you
00:47:52and all of that then uh i think working it not just for um not just for the current job
00:48:02but for
00:48:02the contacts it gives you down the road i think that is a that is a way that that is
00:48:06the way to go
00:48:06uh i generally have got most of my jobs after i sort of started working in the professional field
00:48:12most of my jobs came from people who already knew me and you know it gives you the incentive to
00:48:17make
00:48:18sure you're really productive that you you work well with people and all kinds of good stuff like
00:48:23that so um i think that uh get into the workplace uh stay in the workplace and make sure that
00:48:31people
00:48:31like the living heck out of you like you can't afford to be shy if that makes sense yeah yeah
00:48:37you know
00:48:38maybe it's not so you know let all the shy people be without work if that makes sense right right
00:48:44yeah
00:48:44i definitely need to try a little bit harder in that sense and be a little bit more personable
00:48:50um i i just i've always kind of strongly i think it's kind of like what you said where like
00:48:54i kind
00:48:54of feel fake sometimes doing it because it's just not my not how i am naturally you know yeah and
00:49:00like people just see it as kind of like oh this guy's just kind of standoffish or whatever
00:49:05yeah no i i get all of that and uh there is that but you know it's like the old
00:49:09thing right you
00:49:10can't you can't afford uh to um you can't afford to uh be uh i say i say precious that
00:49:18sounds like a
00:49:18bit derogatory but um you uh you can't you can't afford to be shy in in a tough economy if
00:49:26that makes
00:49:26sense yeah i know you're right you're right well i mean it's funny do you do you have any alumni
00:49:32um
00:49:34memberships or associations or somewhere where you went to school or anyone that you went to
00:49:38school with like if you get back in contact with people i mean yeah i get it you know it
00:49:43seems a
00:49:43little fake and this that and the other but if you do get back in touch with people you know
00:49:48it
00:49:48doesn't have to be totally fake you can just ask them what they're up to right and you know if
00:49:52they
00:49:52remember you and they like you and they happen to have a need for things you know i i mean
00:49:58when i was
00:50:00back in the day looking for work uh i just yeah i just call up anyone get in touch with
00:50:04people from
00:50:05my high school get in touch with people from my university what you're doing these days and you
00:50:10know first of all it's a nice way to reconnect anyway and it helps sort of oppose some of the
00:50:16shy
00:50:17stuff and you know it doesn't have to be like hey man i'm only getting in touch with you
00:50:21because uh i want a job or i mean it can be just you know and then you just you
00:50:26gotta you gotta just
00:50:27work your network and you've gotta uh just be friendly and of course the other thing too is
00:50:32that if you get a network going and maybe they can get you a job and then maybe if you're
00:50:39at the
00:50:39phone company and you hear of a job opening up you can also say to people hey you know i
00:50:45just heard
00:50:45about this you should apply you got a network you know the the solitary stuff is for like
00:50:51flourishing capitalism and this sort of late semi-socialistic hellscape of uh opportunity
00:50:57out there uh you gotta just you you can't do it alone you can't you can't do it alone anymore
00:51:05yeah yeah because you're just you're just a pile of resume from here to the ceiling right just one
00:51:10piece of paper it's got to be some kind of recommendation or you know so and so sent me
00:51:15and and you do some way to stick out from the crowd because i don't think people get jobs through
00:51:20sending resumes in anymore particularly now with ai ai could send resumes by the billions
00:51:25and everyone's got the automatic filters and a lot of times the hiring process is just a fig leaf
00:51:33because they already have someone they want to hire but you know for some reason they you know
00:51:36they got to put it out there and so on and then of course a lot of people are getting
00:51:40the h1b's or
00:51:41the workers from overseas because apparently you have to drill right through the center of the earth
00:51:45in order to get someone who can say uh do you want cream with your coffee apparently that's just
00:51:51there's nobody around who can do that so yeah i i think the idea that you can afford to be
00:51:55shy
00:51:55or not social or not network in the modern economy is uh i say outdated right but it's it's not
00:52:06it's sort of like you'd much rather i mean how did you how did you meet your wife was it
00:52:10a dating app
00:52:11or did you know someone no no we met we met in back in college okay right so uh you
00:52:17know i mean
00:52:18people shy people prefer dating apps because you don't have to go talk to people but dating apps
00:52:23statistically are not a great way to meet people so you just gotta you know i i get the fakeness
00:52:28of
00:52:28it too i want things that are more authentic and so on but you know who wants to be authentic
00:52:33and
00:52:33living in a homeless shelter it's not that i'm saying that's your fate but uh right it's it's better to
00:52:38be a little less um it's better to be a little more awkward maybe a little less authentic and and
00:52:46have a job
00:52:48yeah yeah for sure no you're right you're 100 right about that get in the workplace get your
00:52:54network going and be super helpful to your boss be very likeable likable to your co-workers
00:53:01so that you know first of all and then everyone says hey do you remember that guy oh he was
00:53:05a great
00:53:06guy you know and and just have that positive uh reputation like i mean i had the reputation
00:53:11of absolute like i would get the job done no matter what no matter if i had to i mean
00:53:17i i once had to
00:53:18stay up for two nights straight like three days straight to to finish a project i did it i did
00:53:24it
00:53:24that's just what you do and and i'm sure you have a similar kind of work ethic and you just
00:53:28like no matter what i i'm i wanted to be like you know those those videos where they throw stuff
00:53:36into
00:53:36the big grinders you know like here's a here's a chair here's a table here's an anvil you know
00:53:41and they just grind them up and i just i was like the big grinder guy like whatever you threw
00:53:46at me
00:53:46i would find a way to get it done and once you get that kind of reputation then people will
00:53:51just
00:53:51recommend you particularly for the tough tasks which are the ones that i liked the most i'm so sorry
00:53:55you were about to say and i i kept yammering on no no sorry um yeah i mean you know
00:54:01funnily enough
00:54:02um there's a little bit unrelated but um you know i i've i've always considered myself to be
00:54:09you know that kind of person like i work really hard and i i try to i try to um
00:54:14you know learn as
00:54:15much as i can on on a job and and try to solve a like a problem that that you
00:54:21know back when i was
00:54:21coding especially i really enjoyed solving like problems that that people were saying like hey we
00:54:27can't do this kind of thing you know i would really like buckle down and try to do that um
00:54:32you know but but but it's funny when you say like oh you have to be likable isn't that
00:54:35dude like like especially for example right now with this the electrician thing that i'm doing
00:54:41man in in this union 90 of the people that are that are that are in this in in this
00:54:48union we i uh
00:54:49well i don't want to tell you too much but i i live in in a city close to a
00:54:54city like where the
00:54:54union is it's in a city that's very very liberal and um it is so depressing man like i'm i'm
00:55:03in this
00:55:04this union and these these kids are just like these guys that i'm working with they're brazenly
00:55:10talking about basically like killing conservatives and i'm just like what like like it feels so
00:55:19i don't know how to explain it but it's kind of hard to to imagine myself sort of working with
00:55:24these people you know when they're they have that kind of mentality you know oh yeah no i get that
00:55:30yeah because i mean the enemy the free market is their enemy right dude it's honestly it's terrifying
00:55:36like i've never i've never in my life like you know when i was growing up and stuff you know
00:55:42there
00:55:42was some sort of animosity and stuff but the it it feels kind of crazy like the the degree to
00:55:50which
00:55:50it's gotten oh yeah the propaganda has done its work yeah question the propaganda has done its work
00:55:57yeah and it makes it hard like sometimes because like i'm with co-workers but i'm like i i i
00:56:03don't
00:56:03know it's very hard for me to even make conversation with a lot of these people because
00:56:09because they're just so foreign to me you know i don't even know what to talk about because
00:56:14you know there are people that are unhealthy you know just out of shape um they don't take care of
00:56:21themselves half of them are men that look like women um and it's just like like i have nothing in
00:56:27common with you people you know so i don't know sometimes it's it gets to me as well you know
00:56:35in
00:56:35that sense where it's like kind of hard for me to like even relate you know oh no i get
00:56:41that for
00:56:41sure i mean i had similar things when i was in uh university just about how uh terrible people were
00:56:48as a whole and um yeah it was uh it was pretty monstrous yeah and there's no there's i mean
00:56:55i i don't
00:56:55have any good philosophical answers to that other than um you know these people are almost like blood
00:57:01enemies and unfortunately uh we just live in a society where um you know to these two these two
00:57:08opposing forces they can't both live in the same society and they can't both walk out of the same
00:57:14rooms like they just they just can't and yeah well what's your just kind of unrelated at this point but
00:57:19what's kind of like your feel right now for like where things are going i mean i i know you're
00:57:24you're
00:57:25heavy into uh bitcoin and um you know and all that but like i like i wonder more more just
00:57:32uh
00:57:32like do you think a civil war is something that is that is a possibility at this point or uh
00:57:40it's tough
00:57:40because of course the civil war requires there to be uh two combatants right and there aren't because
00:57:47you know that i just was doing a show uh with this uh uh about this with someone today uh
00:57:53so i won't get
00:57:54into more details because i kind of talked about it there but um how is there going to be how
00:57:59are
00:57:59there two combatants right there's only uh one that has control of the media and uh all of that so
00:58:05yeah that's true yeah yeah and i mean especially my my biggest gripe really is that um
00:58:13bit like conservatives i feel like have been kind of you know like the modern conservative it's just
00:58:20like it feels like it's just a democrat from 20 years ago at this point yeah and it feels like
00:58:25neither side like uh both sides are basically hell-bent on on government spending and all that
00:58:32um so as a venezuelan it's very demoralizing because my my grandfather he's from cuba he escaped cuba
00:58:41and moved and moved to venezuela back in the um in the 70s to restart his life there and then
00:58:50obviously you know once the the socialist revolution happened in venezuela he escaped venezuela we all
00:58:57escaped venezuela and moved to the united states and now it's like this place is so it kind of just
00:59:02i
00:59:03don't know man it's the way it's always going to be as long as we have governments right i mean
00:59:08it's just how it's always going to be and there's just no way to uh avoid it um except by
00:59:15you know
00:59:15doing this kind of thing where we you know work on the peaceful parenting and and try and sort that
00:59:20stuff out but yeah that's just the way it's always going to be yeah all right man well hey i
00:59:26really
00:59:26appreciate um you know your help here and i i do feel better i've been feeling better last last week
00:59:32you know i've just kind of realized that i just have to knuckle down and just work through this you
00:59:36know yeah just remember like uh life is is is is just a lot of problems back to back and
00:59:42face to
00:59:43face that's what life is and you've got your problems and uh you know we are problem solving
00:59:49machines as a whole so having problems means uh that you're alive and uh there's no particular way
00:59:55to be alive without having these kinds of problems and and you know you will you will of course be
01:00:02an
01:00:02even more careful driver and all these other good things that are going on so you know this will
01:00:08you'll you'll you'll get a better house out of this and um all this kind of good stuff too
01:00:14yes sir yeah all right man well thank you so much thank you very welcome man all the best
01:00:19see you brother bye
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