How to Fight LIARS!

Stefan Molyneux

In this Friday Night Live on 23 January 2026, Stefan Molyneux explores the nature of time and reality, likening January's feel to a soul-crushing tsunami of ice. He reflects on his return to a more dynamic show format that revived his creative energy. The talk shifts to the nature of deception, looking at how some people twist the truth without a second thought. He draws from personal experiences to show the predatory side of those lacking conscience, breaking down the psychology at play. Molyneux touches on how deceit plays out in society, especially in politics and relationships, and urges a skeptical, introspective approach. He wraps up by stressing moral integrity and the pursuit of truth, while thanking those involved for the discussion that deepens the philosophical exchange.  GET FREEDOMAIN MERCH! https://shop.freedomain.com/  SUBSCRIBE TO ME ON X! https://x.com/StefanMolyneux  Follow me on Youtube! https://www.youtube.com/@freedomain1  GET MY NEW BOOK 'PEACEFUL PARENTING', THE INTERACTIVE PEACEFUL PARENTING AI, AND THE FULL AUDIOBOOK! https://peacefulparenting.com/  Join the PREMIUM philosophy community on the web for free!  Subscribers get 12 HOURS on the "Truth About the French Revolution," multiple interactive multi-lingual philosophy AIs trained on thousands of hours of my material - as well as AIs for Real-Time Relationships, Bitcoin, Peaceful Parenting, and Call-In Shows!  You also receive private livestreams, HUNDREDS of exclusive premium shows, early release podcasts, the 22 Part History of Philosophers series and much more!  See you soon! https://freedomain.locals.com/support/promo/UPB2025

Transcript

00:00:00Well, good evening, good evening. Everybody, welcome to your Friday Night Live Philosophy Fest on, my God, January just went by in a frozen, hot space, soul-crushing tsunami of ice.

00:00:14Ooh, that's some rigidly mixed metaphors and analogies. Tis not? Yes, tis. Yes, tis.

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00:00:32That's a lot of forehead, man. Couldn't find my hat. So, I'm afraid you get the giant expansion.

00:00:41So, I did actually, I went on a show. I went on a show.

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00:01:39That's a long weekend for Stephen King, isn't it?

00:01:41He's still writing fiction, but mostly on X, as far as I understand it.

00:01:51So, yes, you'll see who's show I went on, but it was definitely, it's been a while since I was out of the studio.

00:02:02And so it was really nice to be back in the saddle again, back, back on the planet, and so on.

00:02:10So, glad to be back with you all.

00:02:12Happy to take your questions and comments.

00:02:14As I said, I wanted to talk to you, thrilled and happy though I am, of course, to hear your questions and comments.

00:02:26Just while I'm waiting for those to come, and James, if you could take the ones from X, I can't easily X, S on that little phony phone thing here.

00:02:34But if you could take them and put them into the chat on, I guess we can do Rumble or YouTube or something like that.

00:02:42I would appreciate that.

00:02:44I would appreciate that.

00:02:46So, yes, and I did something in a live show I've never done before, and I did it five or six times.

00:02:52Like a teen.

00:02:56Anyway, so that will be out in due course, and I hope that you will enjoy it, and I'm very glad to have done it.

00:03:02Thanks.

00:03:04So, I wanted to talk to you about lying.

00:03:08Lying.

00:03:11I think, tell me if this has ever been the case for you.

00:03:15Has it ever been the case that you have been genuinely shocked by another person's complete lack of conscience?

00:03:28That is a wild thing in life.

00:03:31If you come across somebody, and, you know, it is, I mean, I don't know what percentage of the population it is exactly.

00:03:39But I would sort of guesstimate about 10% of the population, I mean, I would assume the white population, that's most of what I've moved around, could be higher in other ethnicities.

00:03:51I'd say about 1 in 10 people can just lie their asses off with no hesitation, no compunction, no pauses, full eye contact, serious face, no hesitation.

00:04:07No voice trembling, no nervous darting eyes.

00:04:13And sometimes, particularly if they're high IQ, they have the astounding ability to keep every detail intact.

00:04:23There's a scene in Good Will Hunting where the woman asks Will how many brothers he has, and he lists them all off, and then she says, what was that again?

00:04:32She was giving him some kind of test, and he lists them all off again.

00:04:34And just a liar.

00:04:39An absolute brilliant, brilliant liar.

00:04:43I mean, Olympic Clinton style.

00:04:47And I don't know, let me know if you've ever encountered someone like that.

00:04:54I don't just mean in passing, you know, somebody who you suspect is a bullshite artist, just at some party or something like that.

00:05:02But somebody who just lies all the time.

00:05:09It is their musculature.

00:05:11And sometimes it's not even for profit.

00:05:13You ever meet someone like that?

00:05:16They don't even lie for profit.

00:05:21It's just a hobby.

00:05:23It's a calling.

00:05:25It's their religion.

00:05:27The god of bullshite.

00:05:28And it's really hard to process morality as a whole and to understand where the world is

00:05:40if you don't particularly follow just how many liars there are in the world

00:05:49and how powerful they are.

00:05:57Tell me if you've, as somebody says, I struggle with that too, with that in someone else or that in yourself?

00:06:05And somebody said, oh yeah, your father is like that.

00:06:07Yeah, they're lying.

00:06:08Have you ever been tempted by, you know, if you've ever watched the movie 2001, A Space Odyssey?

00:06:21Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, dude.

00:06:27He's unplugging these modules, right?

00:06:29Pulling them out.

00:06:30He's taking down the AI that was trying to kill him.

00:06:33And have you ever thought or wondered about how powerful you would be without a conscience?

00:06:48You ever had that?

00:06:51If you could do whatever you wanted, whenever you wanted, without fear, without guilt, without shame,

00:06:59maybe you have some caution.

00:07:00Of course, you have some caution.

00:07:01You don't want to get caught and so on, right?

00:07:03Sociopaths don't like to get caught, so they'll be cautious, right?

00:07:06They're the guys who'll pickpocket somebody's wallet.

00:07:09And then if they see the camera, they'll gesture at the camera and put the wallet back.

00:07:18But I think it's really important to try and get into the mindset of people who have no conscience.

00:07:24Because without getting into the mindset of people who have absolutely no conscience, I think it's really tough to understand the world.

00:07:36So, you know, when you and I make commitments, like when I make a commitment, you know, I'm not going to look at me how gloriously morally magnificent.

00:07:44But, you know, I think the people who've worked with me and so on have this experience, that when I make a commitment, I will really work to make it.

00:07:55It doesn't mean I'm perfect.

00:07:56If I forget something, if people remind me, I'll immediately try to make it happen.

00:08:00Because I have something that sort of circles in my head.

00:08:06You know, you ever have this thing, you're out on a backyard patio or something like that, it's summertime, and you're kind of chilling, and there's a bee that's kind of floating around, just a bee just around, right?

00:08:21And you can't really forget the bee, and you have to get up and deal with it, or there's a wasp that keeps coming back, or whatever it is, right?

00:08:30Have you ever been this at a restaurant?

00:08:33It can even happen at high-end restaurants.

00:08:35When my wife and I went out for our anniversary dinner, we went to a pretty nice restaurant.

00:08:39It was a lunch, actually.

00:08:40We went out for an anniversary lunch, and there was a fly just around.

00:08:43Couldn't squash it, wouldn't go away.

00:08:45It's just there, and it kind of takes up your mind.

00:08:47I mean, that's the conscience, right?

00:08:50Socrates referred to it as this daemon or this, like, thing on his shoulder that would inform him if he was on the right course or the wrong course.

00:08:56The conscience is our universalization metric, like, we have this amazing ability to conceptualize, to universalize.

00:09:04It's how we partake of eternity.

00:09:06It's what the soul is a metaphor for, is our ability to partake of eternity.

00:09:10And for the effects of our thoughts to produce heaven or hell in the world, in the social world, in the political world.

00:09:17And so, the idea that at the end of our life, we go to heaven or we go to hell, that's an analogy for the thoughts that we produce in the world leading to good things or leading to bad things in the world.

00:09:32But the conscience is—now, imagine what a different day you have, or a different afternoon you have, if you're in a backyard, and there's no bugs, no wasps, no bees, nothing, right?

00:09:45And you can really relax, right?

00:09:47Do whatever you want, say whatever you want, think whatever—but if you've got the bees or the wasps, just kind of circling around.

00:09:52It's just, you know, it can be annoying and frustrating and so on, but there are people who have no conscience.

00:10:03They only have concern about blowback.

00:10:06They are, in a very foundational sense, predators.

00:10:10So, of course, the lion creeps up on the gazelle or the springbok or the zebra, and the lion is pretending it's not a lion, right?

00:10:19It's creeping, it's moving up slowly through the thick grass, the deep grass, hiding behind things, and it's pretending to not be a lion, right?

00:10:31That's its basic thing.

00:10:34It doesn't feel bad about that.

00:10:36In fact, it feels very good about that.

00:10:38It doesn't sit there and say, ooh, you know, I really am pretending to not be a lion.

00:10:43That's kind of unfair.

00:10:45I should really give this zebra a chance, you know, whatever.

00:10:47It gets as close as it possibly can before the zebra can send it or notice it, and then it pounces.

00:10:53And it is really, really happy the longer it is undetected.

00:10:59In fact, if it can get right up and just leap and take the zebra down, it's super happy.

00:11:04There's no conscience there.

00:11:05That's what I mean by a predator.

00:11:07Like a predator, a shark can smell a drop of blood at a quarter mile.

00:11:13And they just zoom in, and if they're hungry, the closer they can get, the happier, without being noticed, the happier they are.

00:11:24So that's what I mean by a predator.

00:11:26They love, love, love not being detected.

00:11:28They only have concern or caution about blowback.

00:11:31They have no concern or caution about lying, falsifying.

00:11:38And so, as one of the reasons I never got into politics, I think I would have a good talent for politics.

00:11:46I'm pretty good debating.

00:11:48I'm pretty good at extemporaneous speaking.

00:11:50Oh, and don't forget, wordwardebate, wordwardebate.com.

00:11:54I'm going to be out there in Atlantic City in March, the 18th, I think it is, but you can double check there.

00:12:01And it's going to be a meet and greet.

00:12:02It's going to be dinner.

00:12:04It's going to be a debate.

00:12:05Love to meet you all.

00:12:06But the people without a conscience, if I went into politics and I made commitments to, say, uphold the rule of law, to, say, not break all the laws in Canada by declaring an unjust national emergency and suspending civil rights and privacy and access to your bank account, things like that.

00:12:35When I make a mistake or if I can't keep a commitment, I feel terrible.

00:12:41I mean, it's partly morality.

00:12:44I get that, and I'm not going to pretend it's not.

00:12:47But I'm also not going to pretend it's only morality.

00:12:49I feel bad when I don't keep a commitment to someone who's not kept a commitment to me.

00:12:56Now, I can manage that.

00:12:57That's mostly in the rear view for me.

00:12:59But there were certain times where I'd feel obligated for that.

00:13:01It's that sort of tidy-wighty over-focus on, oh, what, what, fair play.

00:13:06What?

00:13:06So if I was in politics, I made a commitment, I would feel bad to not be able to keep it.

00:13:14But that's rare in the realm of life and in the realm of politics.

00:13:19In fact, if you feel bad for not keeping your commitments in politics, you really can't be a politician.

00:13:25You can't make it work.

00:13:27You can't have it happen.

00:13:29But in business, you know, a man's word is his bond.

00:13:39I mean, one of the few times I've ever signed a contract in the last 21 years was to go out to Australia,

00:13:50where we were supposed to get paid, and they had no money,

00:13:55and the money vanished in rather suspicious ways, to put it mildly.

00:13:59But still, still worthwhile.

00:14:02Still worthwhile.

00:14:03It was great being out there giving the speeches.

00:14:05That's one of my favorite memories.

00:14:06My daughter was like nine back then, and we were, of course, we'd flipped the time zones.

00:14:11So we were up all night, and a lot of people lining up to have a chat, which was great,

00:14:17to buy some books, which was great.

00:14:19And they wanted me to sign their books, and then they wanted my daughter to sign the books.

00:14:23My daughter was sitting next to me signing the books.

00:14:26It was just fantastic.

00:14:30Also, it was, because again, she was like all over the map, as was I, with regards to the time zone.

00:14:35But I remember giving a real barn burner of a speech to like a thousand people,

00:14:39and they had a $100,000 camera on me and so on.

00:14:42And at the end of it, I was very proud.

00:14:43I was very happy with what I did.

00:14:45But I look up at my daughter.

00:14:49It's good to know that I can put her to sleep.

00:14:53Like that.

00:14:55Like that.

00:14:55So, yeah.

00:14:59Sorry, let me just check in with your messages here.

00:15:03Because, oh, I don't need this up here.

00:15:05Sorry, I can take that down.

00:15:08So what have we got here?

00:15:11Can we discuss the new Australian hate laws?

00:15:12I think they were put on hold, weren't they?

00:15:14I heard both things.

00:15:15A, that they were put on hold, and they're back on.

00:15:18Yeah, well, I mean, it is.

00:15:20All the people who want to do terrible things need to silence you from talking about them.

00:15:24So, it's very sad.

00:15:26Somebody says, my father is the most degenerate liar I've ever known.

00:15:29Alcohol made it effortless for him.

00:15:32Yeah, I love the fact that alcohol companies are losing money.

00:15:35I love that fact.

00:15:37I really.

00:15:38Now, I'll be honest with you.

00:15:40I will have maybe one or two drinks a year.

00:15:43If it's really hot, and a neighbor is out, and, you know, we're chatting,

00:15:47or whatever, and he's like, hey, you want a beer?

00:15:49Yeah, I'll have it.

00:15:50So, you know, I'm not like a complete teetotaler,

00:15:53but I really don't drink, and I don't really care to.

00:15:57And I really hate, I just, I hate alcohol companies.

00:16:01They have been disassembling health, happiness, families, and flourishing for thousands of years.

00:16:08And, of course, you know, the alcoholics are responsible for being alcoholics.

00:16:13You can get mad at the supplier while not removing free will from the consumer.

00:16:20I mean, that's within the realm of possibility, probability, and so on.

00:16:27Somebody says, oh, if you could get rid of your conscience, I'd be a Machiavellian.

00:16:32I'd be a Machiavellian without a conscience.

00:16:34Yeah.

00:16:36Yeah.

00:16:42Let's see here.

00:16:43Somebody says, oh, yeah, somebody on X says, yes, I'm dealing with what I think is a covert, malignant narcissist.

00:16:49I cannot wrap my head around it yet.

00:16:51Yeah.

00:16:51To, I mean, if you think about sort of the attacks on the West that have been going on for, I mean, well over 100 years,

00:16:59just this absolute, relentless, bottomless, implacable hatred that has been going on around the world

00:17:09and among particular groups for years and years and years and decades and decades, maybe even centuries, maybe even millennia.

00:17:20And just that bottomless, implacable hatred and to just lie.

00:17:24And lying works.

00:17:25You know, people lied about me continually for, what was it, like 15 years, maybe 12 or 13.

00:17:33People just lied about me without a seeming shred of conscience.

00:17:38And they lied about me steadily for 15 years.

00:17:42And then the fruition of that lying was my deplatforming.

00:17:45It really worked.

00:17:47It was very effective.

00:17:49And, you know, a lie goes twice around the world while the truth is still getting its boots on.

00:17:53So, yeah, it is really, it is really wretched and, and terrible stuff.

00:18:04What people do, they can just lie without a conscience and it works.

00:18:09It's very effective.

00:18:10It's very powerful.

00:18:14Somebody says, I've been taught to feel bad and for a feed lions.

00:18:18And feed lions?

00:18:19Something like that.

00:18:20A predator or someone who is worried about blowback?

00:18:24That is why they form groups.

00:18:25They'll cover for one another in exchange for the others to do the same for them.

00:18:28Yeah, for sure.

00:18:28That's just the reinforcement, right?

00:18:30So, Wikipedia feeds to Google and then Google feeds to the search engines and people pick up from the search engines and all that kind of stuff, right?

00:18:42The most successful politicians are often the best con artists.

00:18:47Yes, that's true.

00:18:50Jay, I'm, I'm glad you are here.

00:18:57Let's see here.

00:19:02Somebody says, my dad actually, not directed at me and nothing to do with lying, but he could say really unpleasant things without seeming to be bothered.

00:19:11Yeah.

00:19:12Yeah.

00:19:13I mean, I certainly have had to put aside gentleness and friendliness and conscience when dealing with a real predator.

00:19:24You just have to meet them on their own level and not be at all fussy about fighting dirty.

00:19:31I make the classical mistake of thinking the world is like me.

00:19:39Projection.

00:19:40Yeah.

00:19:40Isn't it?

00:19:41Isn't it?

00:19:42We have our own template for humanity, which, which is us.

00:19:46And we think people are like us.

00:19:47Well, gee, I'd feel really bad if I lied to someone.

00:19:50And so I'm sure this person is telling the truth, right?

00:19:52Because we tell the truth for reasons of morality and those of us with empathy and a conscience, we tell the truth for a fear of punishment from our own conscience.

00:20:04And so when other people, you know, look us directly in the eye and say, safe and effective, safe and effective, right?

00:20:13And you'll notice that the one of the tells for a pathological liar is the constant nodding and the smiling.

00:20:20Safe and effective.

00:20:21We haven't found any problem.

00:20:22We haven't found any problems with it.

00:20:25Right?

00:20:25They'll give you the smile.

00:20:26They'll give you the nod as a way of trusting me or hypnotizing you, right?

00:20:32That a hypnotizing boogie.

00:20:34Uh-huh.

00:20:36Yeah.

00:20:36No.

00:20:37And there is also in the pathological liar.

00:20:41I wanted to give you some tips on how to identify them.

00:20:44There is the other thing with the pathological liar, which is there is an absolute whiff of strange danger if you cross into the line of skepticism.

00:20:57Yeah.

00:20:58Uh-huh.

00:20:58Yeah.

00:20:59No.

00:20:59Absolutely.

00:21:00Yep.

00:21:00Oh, yeah.

00:21:01Yeah.

00:21:01Oh, right.

00:21:02As you get all this smiling and nodding, you can see this.

00:21:05This was all over the place in COVID when you were talking about what they were claiming was a deadly pathogen.

00:21:10And there's still lots of smiling and nodding and all our data indicate.

00:21:13And yeah, everything.

00:21:14Um, we have found we cannot trust the unvaccinated, right?

00:21:21It's weird because the eyes don't smile, but the mouth is smile, and the nodding is designed to get you to nod back, right?

00:21:28So they know that they don't have a conscience, but they know you have a conscience.

00:21:30And so if someone is smiling and nodding at you, you will have the urge to smile and nod back because you had mirroring as a child and so on, right?

00:21:37But there's always this whiff of danger.

00:21:45So if you start asking questions, you get this kind of shot across, you get this laser eyes, right?

00:21:51You get this smiling and nodding, right?

00:21:54A bit of an Erica Kirk, right?

00:21:56This shot across the bowels.

00:21:58This sudden cold freezing.

00:22:00That's the predator stuff.

00:22:01So there's the hypnosis of the smiling and nodding, and then there's this flash, and it's really fast, and you get this tension, right?

00:22:10This impatience.

00:22:12I've already explained it, all right?

00:22:13I've already explained it.

00:22:14And then you go back to the smiling and nodding.

00:22:16Well, I've already explained it.

00:22:17Right?

00:22:18So there's a shot across your bowels, which is your first trip wire, you just get a shot across the bowels.

00:22:24God help you.

00:22:25If you expose me, I will stop at nothing, right?

00:22:28This is what people say.

00:22:29If you expose me, I will stop at nothing, too.

00:22:32Wreck and destroy you.

00:22:40Somebody said, oh, how long does it take to sniff out a liar?

00:22:44Well, the best way to sniff out a liar is to ask skeptical questions, right?

00:22:52Oh, safe and effective.

00:22:54How do you know?

00:22:54Well, there's been testing.

00:22:56Okay, how long was it tested for?

00:22:58Three months.

00:22:59Okay, but here it says that it's safe for pregnancy, but how could you tell if it's safe for pregnancy when pregnancy is nine months, you only test it for three months?

00:23:06Oh, and where's the data?

00:23:08Well, we know for sure it didn't come from a lab.

00:23:11Okay, how do you know for sure it didn't come from a lab?

00:23:13How is it racist to say it came from a lab?

00:23:15A lab is not a race, right?

00:23:17And it was the French who built that damn thing anyway.

00:23:20So you just ask a couple of skeptical questions.

00:23:23Not hostile.

00:23:24Just, you know, explain it to me like I'm three years old.

00:23:26How do you know that novel technology like mRNA shots that has never worked in animal testing is now amazingly safe for human beings?

00:23:35Well, the best scientists have said it's like, well, but, you know, I mean, come on.

00:23:41Scientists have said cigarette was safe.

00:23:44Scientists designed the food pyramid and were completely corrupted in that process.

00:23:49Science has had a huge amount of error.

00:23:52Science that thalidomide was safe.

00:23:54So scientists get things wrong, particularly when there are significant financial incentives, right?

00:24:01Scientists said that we'd all be underwater by now and there'd be no polar ice, right?

00:24:09So you just ask a couple of basic skeptical questions and you'll just see that flash, that rage.

00:24:15And that will escalate until they remove you from the environment and then work to destroy your reputation

00:24:22because you have to be held up as a smoking-hearted example of sacrifice

00:24:27so that nobody else even thinks of trying to question them.

00:24:35So sniff out a lot.

00:24:36You know, I love to be questioned.

00:24:39I love it when people come up and say, Steph, you're totally wrong, right?

00:24:43We had John Balfour a couple of months ago, a philosophy professor, logical, really, I mean,

00:24:48has a sort of odd kind of half fetishistic hatred for the big chatty forehead and he was on the line

00:24:54and I'm like, come on in, man, come talk to me.

00:24:57I'm happy to be questioned.

00:24:58I'm happy to be cross-examined.

00:25:01I have nothing to hide and I can't lose from being cross-examined

00:25:06because either I reinforce my position or I get a better argument, which I'm happy about as well.

00:25:12So it's a no-lose situation.

00:25:15And I'm not lying about anything.

00:25:18I mean, I might not be right about everything because possibility of error is always there.

00:25:23But I'm not lying about it.

00:25:24I'm not trying to cover anything up.

00:25:25I'm not lying about anything.

00:25:29But people who lie, they have to give you warning shots that you don't ask any questions.

00:25:34People who get upset when you ask skeptical questions are liars.

00:25:38I mean, I challenge you, and I'm not saying it's been 21 years,

00:25:46but I challenge you to find a time when I get angry just because someone asks a question

00:25:55or criticizes me or, right?

00:25:58I mean, show me a time where somebody says,

00:26:00I disagree with you or I think you're wrong and I get angry.

00:26:03I mean, if people are really manipulative and so on, then yes, I will get angry after a while,

00:26:10but I'm very happy to be questioned.

00:26:16The reason, just in case anyone's interested, the reason why I get angry

00:26:19is that when people come in for a debate with me or come in for a conversation with me

00:26:24where we disagree, which is fine, it's great, in fact,

00:26:28then the assumption is if they're wrong, they will withdraw their criticism.

00:26:35If they cannot sustain their criticism, then they will withdraw their criticism

00:26:40if I prove them wrong, right?

00:26:42So John Balfour said that I didn't understand the difference

00:26:49between deductive and inductive reasoning.

00:26:51And then I gave the examples from my book and he said,

00:26:55oh, well, I guess you do or whatever it is, right?

00:26:57So he'd said that I don't understand these things.

00:26:59It turns out that I do understand these things.

00:27:01So normally you would say, I'm sorry, I misunderstood

00:27:04or I'm sorry, it turns out you do understand these things.

00:27:07I'm sorry, I publicly said you don't understand the basic differences in logic, blah, blah, blah.

00:27:12But nope, they just, you know, it's like the prosecutor charges you with a crime

00:27:17and they can't convict you of that crime and they just switch to another crime

00:27:22and they just, you know, show me the man, I'll show you the crime.

00:27:24They just keep coming at you with various crimes, right?

00:27:26You know that that's not a good faith prosecution, it's not moral, it's punitive, right?

00:27:30So when people can't admit fault, when people won't maintain the basic civility of

00:27:41if we're going to have a debate, we have to both bow to reason and evidence, right?

00:27:45We have to both.

00:27:45Otherwise, it's just two people talking past each other and it's not an actual debate.

00:27:50And people know, I mean, I said the debate, the art of the argument is civilization itself.

00:27:54So I really, really care about the quality of debates.

00:27:57I really, really care about the fact that people need to stick to rationality

00:28:01and the rules of evidence and the rules of logic and the rules of empiricism

00:28:05in order to have productive debates.

00:28:07So when anybody comes in to me and wants to have a conversation, which is great,

00:28:13and a debate and they say that I'm wrong, then I'm going to automatically assume

00:28:16that they're going to go in accordance with reason and evidence.

00:28:20I'm not sure of that, but, you know, and I'll give it a try, right?

00:28:22And if people won't, they say, Steph, you're wrong because of X, Y, and Z,

00:28:28and I disproved that, and then they won't budge their position,

00:28:31then that's a form of fraud.

00:28:33And it's a fundamental falsehood.

00:28:38So that angers me because it's a fundamental breaking of a social contract.

00:28:42And it is a form of fraud.

00:28:45Somebody says, I know a girl in her early 20s where her father has been giving her weed

00:28:49for several years.

00:28:50She loves him dearly and is unable to see him for what he is.

00:28:53I personally can't square it in my head.

00:28:56Well, we know that one, right?

00:28:59That's one of the saddest things around, which is we can only have a relationship,

00:29:05say so many people.

00:29:07We can only have a relationship if you don't question me.

00:29:13We can only have a relationship if you never criticize me.

00:29:15We can only have, you know how people do it, right?

00:29:17You can only have a relationship if you agree with everything that I say, right?

00:29:29Yeah, you just need to press them, and if they get mad or evade, that's your sign.

00:29:33Yeah, for sure.

00:29:35People with nothing to hide welcome questions.

00:29:38People with genuine expertise welcome criticism.

00:29:41People who want to improve welcome criticism and so on, right?

00:29:45So, when people make claims and you begin to ask them skeptical questions, they should be thrilled.

00:29:54You know, if someone has designed an amazing motor and you say,

00:29:57oh, I'm going to need to know more about this motor.

00:29:59I can't believe it works.

00:30:00And so, tell me how this part works.

00:30:03They'd love to show it to you.

00:30:04You know, when people come up to me or call me up or whatever and say,

00:30:09UPB is wrong.

00:30:09I'm like, hey, fantastic.

00:30:11This is going to give me another chance to explain it.

00:30:13I'm going to release this weekend the greatest essay in the history of philosophy.

00:30:19You think I'm kidding.

00:30:20I'm not kidding.

00:30:22And it's just another way of explaining this, right?

00:30:25So, people love to explain what it is that they're doing.

00:30:30If someone's created something really cool and you want to, you say, well, tell me how this works, right?

00:30:36Lovely.

00:30:37If somebody wants to say to me, step me through how UPB is proven, like step by step, I'm like, lovely, fantastic.

00:30:43My nipples are hard.

00:30:46I probably shouldn't say it in that voice, but you know what I mean.

00:30:48Basically, I'm 80s Madonna on tour at the moment.

00:30:52So, well, it's cold out.

00:30:54What can I tell you?

00:30:56I can cut two holes in glass.

00:30:59All right.

00:31:01Kay says, yeah, my dad started smoking weed with me when I was 11.

00:31:05It's really messed up and confusing when you're young and you think your dad loves you.

00:31:08Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

00:31:10It's just awful.

00:31:12Just awful.

00:31:14Steph on a Friday night is such a gift.

00:31:16Thanks, Steph.

00:31:16Hey, man.

00:31:19Steph on any night is a gift.

00:31:21No, I appreciate that.

00:31:22I didn't start to realize my dad isn't capable of love until pretty recently.

00:31:27Oh, do not make me come over there, Miss Kay.

00:31:29Do not make me come over there.

00:31:32Isn't capable of love.

00:31:34Oh, you don't know that.

00:31:40You don't know that.

00:31:42He might have been capable of love and then done so much evil and corruption that love gets burned out of it.

00:31:47But, you know, if I let myself get to 300 pounds, which is what would happen if I didn't restrain my eating at all times.

00:31:55But if I let myself get to 300 pounds, never got off the couch, I'd say, Steph is incapable of playing pickleball.

00:32:08Technically, for me, as a male, it's pickleballs because I'm not Hitler.

00:32:12But you don't know.

00:32:15You might have been capable of love, but then just made so many bad decisions.

00:32:18Is that, right?

00:32:21Is it genetic or is it chosen?

00:32:25It's chosen.

00:32:27By the time you meet your father, he might have been so corrupted that he had no chance to undo it.

00:32:32But you don't know.

00:32:33He's incapable of love.

00:32:35And that's giving him an out so you don't have to judge him.

00:32:38And still I wait.

00:32:47Hey, Steph.

00:32:49Do you think the time to convince people has ended with the ubiquity of information we have these days?

00:32:54Yes, the age of reason is past.

00:32:57Now it is just the age of calming your conscience by saying everything you can for the next cycle of history

00:33:01and heading to the high hills when the shite starts to hit the fan.

00:33:09He wanted someone to complain to and bond with.

00:33:11He thought it was making us closer and he would complain about his wife to me.

00:33:17Yeah.

00:33:19Yeah.

00:33:20It was an exploiter.

00:33:22There's no bonding.

00:33:23There's no bonding without two ways, right?

00:33:25Without two ways.

00:33:31Have you seen Tucker Carlson's video on The Great Replacement?

00:33:34He seems to be doing amazing work for the truth.

00:33:36But I mean, it's an interesting idea.

00:33:42Maybe if people had focused on what other people were saying 20 years ago,

00:33:48but what are you going to do now?

00:33:50Isn't it everyone's solemn responsibility to be among the less deceived?

00:33:59I don't even know what that means.

00:34:00Solemn responsibility only matters to people who accept responsibilities.

00:34:16Steph, the biggest sigh-up must not be questioned because everything falls apart when you start,

00:34:21so most people don't even want to talk about it.

00:34:22Is that what Andrew Tate was alluding to in his The Matrix?

00:34:28The Matrix.

00:34:29I can't do it, Andrew Tate.

00:34:30Yeah, so the other thing that helps you identify liars is when they have power over you,

00:34:47they're ferocious.

00:34:48They will try to get power over you with the nodding and the smiling, right?

00:34:51And then if they get power over you, they're ferocious.

00:34:54If you have power over them, then they turn to self-pity, right?

00:34:57So this is the swing, right?

00:34:59They're either at your feet or at your throat.

00:35:00This is the swing that happens when your parents have power over you when you're little.

00:35:04If you have brutal and cruel parents, then they have power over you, and then they're brutal.

00:35:10When you get older, and you don't have to see them anymore, then what happens?

00:35:16Well, it's all about self-pity, and I did the best I could, and how could you be so cruel?

00:35:20And I guess I'm not perfect, but who is?

00:35:22And I guess I was just the worst mother slash father ever.

00:35:25You get all this self-pity, right?

00:35:28So it's cruelty when in power and piteousness when you have power.

00:35:37You can see this brilliantly done in the character Gollum in Lord of the Rings,

00:35:44where he verges between self-pity and malicious cruelty, right?

00:35:49All right.

00:35:59Thank you for the tip, Khendru.

00:36:01That is very kind.

00:36:04Very kind.

00:36:06After probing them for lies or critical thinking skills, when they run out of things to say,

00:36:14I found people to say the phrase, well, we had to do something.

00:36:18I guess we'll just agree to disagree, right?

00:36:20That's so that you don't shatter the narcissistic bubble that they live in.

00:36:23Then, of course, like you said, they will mark or target you and snipe at you from all angles,

00:36:27coming from people you don't even know, but they know you.

00:36:30And there's really no way to fight back other than mark them back amongst like-minded people like us here.

00:36:36It's not fun, but the process can make one stronger.

00:36:39Yeah.

00:36:40Yeah, you don't fight with higher standards than those you fight against.

00:36:44That's something that the right has yet to understand.

00:36:49I'm probably too late anyway now, so.

00:36:55Thank you, Andrew.

00:36:56He says, thank you for keeping the truth alive and spreading.

00:37:00My cheeks?

00:37:01What do you mean?

00:37:06Steph approved the state murder of Rene Good.

00:37:10That's some excellent trolling.

00:37:11I mean, blindingly obvious and dumb trolling, but good for you.

00:37:17Thank you for just saying things that are not true and, oh, so provocative and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:37:26Well done.

00:37:27What an argument you've made.

00:37:29So impressive.

00:37:30Boy, you've just shoved that pin cushion where the sun don't shine,

00:37:34and I'm going to walk around bow-legged for the rest of time.

00:37:37You have just owned me so hard, and you have shown me how I'm wrong.

00:37:41There, there, there, there.

00:37:45Hilarious.

00:37:46Thank you, Massey.

00:37:47I appreciate the tip.

00:37:48Freedomain.com slash donate.

00:37:50I have to overcome my fear of questioning people.

00:37:52I feel like I'm being rude or something.

00:37:53I know it's not right, but the fear is so strong.

00:37:55Well, it's not your fear of questioning people.

00:37:57It's your fear of being brutalized by liars.

00:38:00Because if you question people who are a con man,

00:38:04then they will come after you with everything they have.

00:38:07There's an old saying that the boredom is rage spread thin.

00:38:18Con men or charm is usually rage with makeup, right?

00:38:23Charm is just rage with makeup.

00:38:24It's predatory, and it is contemptuous, right?

00:38:30You've got to put yourself in the mindset of a lion approaching a zebra, right?

00:38:35Entitlement, greed, hunger, complete absence of empathy for the zebra,

00:38:42and a deep joy at the prospect of chewing through its jugular.

00:38:47Like, honestly, a deep, deep predatory thrill and joy and happiness

00:38:51at being able to feed yourself and your family, right?

00:38:55So, they love it.

00:38:59They love the hunt.

00:39:00And if you expose them, then they will make pretty short work of you, pretty clearly.

00:39:07I mean, in the sort of whole history of philosophy,

00:39:09the 15 years that they lied about me or the dozen years they lied about me,

00:39:12it's pretty effective and pretty well done.

00:39:15And, of course, the purpose of going after you is to frighten everyone else.

00:39:21So, if you've ever had someone who comes up to you and they're like,

00:39:27hey, you know, did you notice something kind of weird was going on with Bob the other day?

00:39:34He just, didn't you, like, he just, I don't mean to speak ill.

00:39:37I don't.

00:39:37I like Bob.

00:39:38I really, I like Bob.

00:39:39But there's something going on with that guy.

00:39:43I'm not sure, I'm not sure what it is.

00:39:45Something kind of, kind of odd, kind of quirky, kind of weird.

00:39:51I mean, again, it's just my thoughts.

00:39:54I don't mean to speak ill with the guy because I really, I like him and I care about him.

00:39:58I really want nothing but the best for him.

00:39:59But I think, I think I get this kind of weird feeling that he's hiding something.

00:40:06You know, every time I try and talk to him, his eyes are darting all over the room.

00:40:09He keeps shifting and moving.

00:40:10He's never quite still and he's kind of jumpy and I don't know.

00:40:14So, it's not, it's not like he's guilty about something, but it's not like the opposite of that either.

00:40:20It's just, I mean, it's just kind of, kind of weird.

00:40:23And, you know, I tell you, the reason I'm thinking, and I really want to get your thoughts on it,

00:40:31but the reason I'm thinking about this is like, so the other day, Main and Elm, Elm Street, Main and Elm, right?

00:40:39I don't know if you've ever been past this, this big, deep puddle, right?

00:40:41So, you know, Bob's got that flashy caddy, right?

00:40:47And so, he's coming down.

00:40:48You can't mistake it, right?

00:40:49So, I see the guy coming down.

00:40:51I give him a big wave.

00:40:53I thought maybe he'd stop, roll down his window, say hi or whatever.

00:40:56Or, you know, heaven forbid, ask me if he could give me a lift because it was kind of raining.

00:40:59So, on that corner, is it Main and Elm?

00:41:01There's this, I don't know, it's like a depression or it's not like a pothole.

00:41:05It's a lot longer and deeper than that.

00:41:07But, so Bob comes up in this flashy caddy and I swear to God, I can't tell for sure,

00:41:15but I'm 99% sure we made eye contact.

00:41:20You know, he's got that crack, like, you really should get it fixed, but, you know,

00:41:25he's got this crack running along and I saw his eyes and he had eye contact with me

00:41:31and the guy turns the wheel slightly.

00:41:35Again, I think he's staring straight at me.

00:41:39And he kind of guns it into that puddle and splashes the living shit out of me.

00:41:44Like, you know, that dirty, muddy, gritty, city rainwater.

00:41:50And it blows past, right?

00:41:54And I thought, I thought I saw him do this over his shoulder.

00:41:57Again, it was raining, it's a little hard to tell,

00:41:59but it seems like even if he didn't know it was me,

00:42:03the fact that he'd hit that puddle and doused me,

00:42:07I don't know, man, there's something going on with the guy.

00:42:10He's not, he's not the guy he used to be.

00:42:15You know, I mean, I remember like I met him,

00:42:18oh God, what was it?

00:42:18I want, I want to be precise about this

00:42:25because I don't want to get anything wrong.

00:42:29Five years and seven, no, eight.

00:42:33Five months, five years and eight months ago, sorry about that.

00:42:36And kind of free and easy, relaxed and fun.

00:42:40And he's just, his shoulders keep getting higher.

00:42:42And now he's talking like he doesn't even move his teeth.

00:42:45And he just seems kind of tense and weird, man.

00:42:48And I don't, I mean, what have you seen?

00:42:53I'm worried about, I'm worried about the guy.

00:42:55I really am.

00:42:56There's something going on with him that's just strange.

00:42:59I don't know if he's cheating on Kathy.

00:43:01I don't, I don't know.

00:43:02I don't know.

00:43:04He, it's the kind of look, you know, like,

00:43:07God, the first job I had,

00:43:09there was an accountant who got caught with his hand in the till.

00:43:15Like, like, like he was pulling a cow, a calf out of a cow.

00:43:19He was like, bro was like armpit deep in the till.

00:43:24And I remember for the couple of months,

00:43:26he had that whole shifty air about him.

00:43:28And I mean, it's kind of had this weird deja vu

00:43:31when I'm looking at Bob, because I'm like,

00:43:33is that the same?

00:43:34Is that the, because he had kind of this,

00:43:36you know, this tense squirrely look and so on.

00:43:38Anyway, he got caught and, and no, not obviously not Bob,

00:43:41but the accountant at the first place I worked,

00:43:43he got caught and went to jail.

00:43:45And I think he might still be there.

00:43:48Like it was, it was a lot of money.

00:43:49And he was really, really squirrely.

00:43:51It turned out he had some,

00:43:51I think it was a gambling addiction.

00:43:53I don't think it was drugs,

00:43:55but I think it was a gambling addiction.

00:43:56And so he was pilfering from the company to pay off.

00:44:00Obviously some pretty shady Joe Pesci types

00:44:02for the gambling thing.

00:44:04And so, I don't know,

00:44:08I'm just getting this weird deja vu.

00:44:10And like ever since that whole accountant thing,

00:44:12I've been like, keep my eye out for this.

00:44:14I really want to keep my eye out for this kind of stuff

00:44:16with people like Bob,

00:44:18because that, I don't want to get into the whole story here,

00:44:21because I don't want to bore you to tears,

00:44:23but that almost took me down with it.

00:44:24Because when people are going through something

00:44:27really squirrely and their life is unraveling

00:44:30or things are falling apart,

00:44:31and I really get that sense from Bob,

00:44:34they will, you know,

00:44:35like drowning man grabbing at anything, right?

00:44:37Grabbing at anything.

00:44:39And ever since that thing with the accountant,

00:44:42like God would have been in the workforce

00:44:45like a decade, nine years.

00:44:48Yeah, no, no, 20, oh God, 20.

00:44:52Yeah, it was 2017.

00:44:53So nine years.

00:44:55No, I guess he's out of prison,

00:44:56because I think it was six or seven years.

00:44:58But ever since then,

00:45:02since that guy tried to take me,

00:45:03he actually tried to implicate me

00:45:05and say that I was doing something

00:45:06with my expense accounts,

00:45:08and he really, so I've really,

00:45:09I've almost got really badly burned at that,

00:45:11like almost got dragged into something criminal.

00:45:13And so I really, really,

00:45:15I vowed to myself to just,

00:45:17just keep an eye out for that kind of stuff

00:45:20and make sure that people don't drag you down.

00:45:24So what do you think?

00:45:25So someone like that,

00:45:26sorry, just to break out of that.

00:45:27So someone like that,

00:45:28they'll layer in a whole series of things,

00:45:31implications and so on.

00:45:33And what they're doing is they're trying to get,

00:45:35they're A, trying to get you to turn against Bob

00:45:37and try and spread that,

00:45:38and they're trying to prime you, right?

00:45:41So what happens is they'll say negative things about Bob,

00:45:46which means everyone,

00:45:47and they'll go, they'll do the circle, right?

00:45:49They'll do the circle,

00:45:50and nothing they can be caught off,

00:45:51because it's all concern.

00:45:52And then what'll happen is that people,

00:45:55it'll be a self-fulfilling prophecy,

00:45:56because Bob will start to notice that something's kind of odd

00:45:58with the people around him,

00:45:59so he'll start to act a bit more differently,

00:46:01which then becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

00:46:03And once you've primed,

00:46:04like once you've said,

00:46:05oh man,

00:46:05I think someone's hiding something,

00:46:07and they seem kind of nervous,

00:46:08and you tie them in with some past criminal thing or whatever,

00:46:11then what happens is,

00:46:14people start to see it.

00:46:15Right?

00:46:18Hey,

00:46:18you ever notice that Bob seems to lick his lips a lot?

00:46:21And then,

00:46:22maybe he doesn't lick his lips that much,

00:46:23but every time,

00:46:24now you're ready to see it,

00:46:25right?

00:46:25Now you're primed to see it.

00:46:27And so,

00:46:28whenever Bob licks his lips,

00:46:29that's going to be confirmation of some drug problem.

00:46:31So,

00:46:32and so they're doing two things.

00:46:33One,

00:46:33they'll turn you against Bob.

00:46:34Three things.

00:46:35Turn you against Bob,

00:46:36make it a self-fulfilling prophecy,

00:46:37and also say that

00:46:39if

00:46:40they

00:46:41have a problem with you,

00:46:44they'll do to you what they did to Bob.

00:46:45So,

00:46:46they're just trying to get you to go in,

00:46:47in line,

00:46:48right?

00:46:50The story of your enslavement was huge for me.

00:46:52Thank you,

00:46:53mate.

00:46:53I appreciate that.

00:47:00All right.

00:47:03Steph thinks ice is legitimate.

00:47:12It's so funny because

00:47:13we're talking about

00:47:17liars who try to,

00:47:19who just lie without conscience

00:47:20and try to harm reputation,

00:47:22and this person on

00:47:23YouTube is just one of these people.

00:47:26As you speak about them,

00:47:28so shall they be

00:47:29summoned.

00:47:36Stay away from Andrew Tate,

00:47:38says someone.

00:47:38Could you expand on the perspective

00:47:43on the direction we are going?

00:47:45You've already hinted at it

00:47:46several times in this session.

00:47:47Well,

00:47:48I mean,

00:47:48most companies are,

00:47:49most countries are quicksand

00:47:50that is going to

00:47:51suck down the competent,

00:47:53and then

00:47:53some portal

00:47:54will open up

00:47:55someplace in the world

00:47:56for competent people to get to,

00:47:57and then you should

00:47:58make your way there.

00:47:59How would you define a country?

00:48:05Curious if there's a better answer

00:48:07than geographic location

00:48:08and demographics.

00:48:09I don't,

00:48:10it's not really a philosophical question,

00:48:12more of a question of geography.

00:48:13I can't see a liar

00:48:17to save my life,

00:48:18while others think I'm a liar

00:48:19because I'm a nervous person sometimes,

00:48:21real fun stuff.

00:48:23Well,

00:48:23but the real liars aren't nervous.

00:48:25Like,

00:48:26you can,

00:48:26you can hook someone up

00:48:29who's a real liar

00:48:31to

00:48:32whatever machine you want.

00:48:34No change in pulse,

00:48:35no,

00:48:35like,

00:48:35they're just

00:48:35perfectly practiced,

00:48:37perfectly easy,

00:48:37so nervous people tend not to be liars.

00:48:43Who was Steph talking about?

00:48:45I was doing a

00:48:46hacketing lesson,

00:48:47an improv lesson,

00:48:48about how liars operate.

00:48:52This situation brings to mind

00:48:54target fixation,

00:48:55where drivers subconsciously

00:48:56move towards what they look at.

00:48:57I hope

00:48:57he didn't mean to splash you.

00:49:02Thanks as always.

00:49:03I appreciate that.

00:49:03All right.

00:49:04Oh my God,

00:49:04we got a lot of comments.

00:49:06For people who just joined

00:49:07in the middle,

00:49:08you wouldn't understand

00:49:09what I was talking about.

00:49:11I hate how therapists

00:49:12try to make people feel

00:49:13bad for addicts

00:49:14like they're victims

00:49:14of a disease.

00:49:16Oh yeah,

00:49:17the disease stuff.

00:49:18Everyone's got ADHD

00:49:19and they're on the spectrum

00:49:20and it's like,

00:49:21I mean,

00:49:22there's,

00:49:22I'm sure some of that,

00:49:23but.

00:49:30Regarding,

00:49:31he's not the guy

00:49:31he used to be.

00:49:32Oh yeah,

00:49:32I've had someone tell me,

00:49:34you used to be

00:49:35such a funny little kid

00:49:36and then you got so serious.

00:49:38Sorry,

00:49:39somebody says,

00:49:40regarding,

00:49:40he's not the guy

00:49:41he used to be.

00:49:41Oh yeah,

00:49:42I've had someone

00:49:42tell me that.

00:49:43I'm not better,

00:49:44not the same,

00:49:45I'm worse.

00:49:46But the context

00:49:47behind his statement

00:49:48was that he was being

00:49:49fired or pushed out

00:49:50and was lashing out

00:49:51against me.

00:49:52Good riddance.

00:49:53But not really

00:49:54cause,

00:49:55like you said,

00:49:56they will keep coming

00:49:57for me,

00:49:57continuing to lash out

00:49:58to take me down

00:49:59bite by bite.

00:50:00He's demonstrating

00:50:01what subtle character

00:50:02assassination looks like.

00:50:03Oh yeah,

00:50:04absolutely.

00:50:05Yeah,

00:50:05Bob the liar,

00:50:06criminal,

00:50:06gambling dude.

00:50:07Yeah,

00:50:08for sure.

00:50:12And,

00:50:12how do you deal with,

00:50:14like,

00:50:15so let's go back to

00:50:15that little role play

00:50:16that I did

00:50:17about subtle character

00:50:18assassination.

00:50:21How do you

00:50:21counter that?

00:50:24How do you

00:50:25counter that?

00:50:27Psychological infection.

00:50:28Yeah,

00:50:28that's what I was doing.

00:50:29It's just a way

00:50:30that people cope

00:50:31with their personal

00:50:31insecurities

00:50:32in a subtle way

00:50:33that I believe

00:50:34doesn't,

00:50:35that they believe

00:50:36doesn't put them

00:50:36in much danger

00:50:37of their motives

00:50:37being exposed,

00:50:38right?

00:50:44Is that portal America?

00:50:46No.

00:50:47No.

00:50:50I wanted to get

00:50:50your opinion

00:50:51on Greenland,

00:50:52if you don't mind.

00:50:52I know Trump is mad

00:50:53that the US

00:50:54basically pays

00:50:55for Europe's defense

00:50:55so they can give

00:50:56welfare to third worlders.

00:50:58Well,

00:50:59the Greenland thing

00:51:00is because China

00:51:01and Russia

00:51:01are going to make

00:51:02their moves.

00:51:02And it's so funny,

00:51:03of course,

00:51:03the West,

00:51:04the leftists

00:51:05are all like,

00:51:05well,

00:51:06colonialism is terrible

00:51:07and it's stolen land

00:51:08and so on,

00:51:09but the Danes

00:51:10have been running it

00:51:10for what,

00:51:11a century or two

00:51:12and apparently

00:51:14their claim

00:51:15to Greenland

00:51:16is absolute.

00:51:18It's pretty funny.

00:51:22Yeah,

00:51:22Bob lost me

00:51:23at the splashing.

00:51:25Yeah.

00:51:26I tried

00:51:26proselytizing UPB

00:51:28but even 150

00:51:28and IQ people

00:51:29zone out

00:51:30and don't care.

00:51:31Mm-mm-mm.

00:51:32It's not.

00:51:33Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:51:35Sorry,

00:51:36I appreciate your feedback

00:51:37but you splashed me

00:51:39at the road

00:51:39the other day, man.

00:51:41But no,

00:51:42it's not,

00:51:43it's not that

00:51:43they zone out

00:51:44and don't care.

00:51:45You give people

00:51:46absolute morality.

00:51:48You give people

00:51:49absolute morality

00:51:50and you put them

00:51:53on a massive

00:51:53collision course

00:51:54with everyone

00:51:55in their life.

00:51:56Right?

00:51:56So if you give

00:51:58people Christianity

00:51:59they become

00:52:00Christians,

00:52:00right?

00:52:01Then they can find

00:52:02other Christians

00:52:03who believe

00:52:04what they believe.

00:52:04Let's say that

00:52:05they're a fire

00:52:06and brimstone

00:52:07kind of person.

00:52:09There'll be a great

00:52:09wailing and

00:52:10gnashing of teeth.

00:52:13Well,

00:52:13what if we don't

00:52:14have teeth?

00:52:14Teeth will be

00:52:15provided!

00:52:18It's an old

00:52:18Dave Allen sketch.

00:52:20Anyway,

00:52:20that's a

00:52:22blast from the past.

00:52:23Anyway,

00:52:26so

00:52:26you give people

00:52:28absolute morality

00:52:29and they're on

00:52:29a collision course

00:52:30with everyone

00:52:30around them.

00:52:31That's why

00:52:31they're zoning out.

00:52:32That's why

00:52:32they claim

00:52:32not to care.

00:52:33Because yeah,

00:52:33if you're a

00:52:34fire and brimstone

00:52:35guy,

00:52:35you can go find

00:52:36other people

00:52:37who are Christians

00:52:37who are fire

00:52:38and brimstone

00:52:38people.

00:52:39Not that hard.

00:52:41If you are

00:52:42a forgive

00:52:43everyone

00:52:44Erica Kirk

00:52:45quicksand

00:52:46of sentimental

00:52:46goop,

00:52:48then you can

00:52:50find people

00:52:50like that.

00:52:51So in

00:52:52Christianity

00:52:52you can

00:52:53anyway the

00:52:55wind blows.

00:52:57So you can

00:52:58get all of

00:52:58that done

00:52:59in Christianity.

00:52:59You find

00:53:00people like

00:53:00yourself.

00:53:01UPB

00:53:01it's not

00:53:03subjective.

00:53:05It's not

00:53:05a buffet.

00:53:06It's not

00:53:06pick and

00:53:07choose.

00:53:08Because

00:53:09Christianity

00:53:10is,

00:53:11and most

00:53:11religions

00:53:11are distorted

00:53:12mirrors

00:53:12wherein you

00:53:13can find

00:53:13the reflection

00:53:13of just

00:53:14about any

00:53:14personality

00:53:15type.

00:53:17So,

00:53:17no,

00:53:18people

00:53:18understand

00:53:19the power

00:53:19of UPB.

00:53:20That's why

00:53:21they zone

00:53:21out.

00:53:21Because

00:53:23everyone

00:53:23loves to

00:53:24believe that

00:53:25they're in

00:53:25relationships

00:53:26because

00:53:26everybody's

00:53:27lovely and

00:53:27good and

00:53:27virtuous and

00:53:28kind and

00:53:28blah,

00:53:29blah,

00:53:29blah.

00:53:29And then

00:53:30if you

00:53:30bring UPB

00:53:31to the

00:53:31table and

00:53:32say,

00:53:33hey,

00:53:33you know,

00:53:35we have a

00:53:35proof now as

00:53:36to why rape,

00:53:37theft, assault,

00:53:37murder are

00:53:38evil.

00:53:38We have a

00:53:38proof.

00:53:40It's

00:53:40absolute,

00:53:40universal,

00:53:42incontrovertible.

00:53:43Then what's

00:53:45going to happen

00:53:45is they're

00:53:46turning on the

00:53:46light and you

00:53:47find out how

00:53:48many vampires.

00:53:48You say,

00:53:49hey, let's

00:53:49go meet in

00:53:50the quad.

00:53:51Beautiful day

00:53:51out.

00:53:52Man, it's a

00:53:54waterfall of

00:53:55vitamin D.

00:53:55Let's get

00:53:56out there.

00:53:56Let's roast

00:53:58our ginger

00:54:00papyrus flesh

00:54:01in the big

00:54:03sunny D.

00:54:04And then

00:54:06people don't

00:54:07come meet you

00:54:08in the quad.

00:54:08They're just

00:54:08hanging by their

00:54:09coffins in the

00:54:10shadows, right?

00:54:11So you're trying

00:54:11to bring people

00:54:12into the light.

00:54:12Their skin

00:54:13starts smoking.

00:54:13They start

00:54:14screeching like

00:54:15some Instagram

00:54:17chicken on the

00:54:17top of a

00:54:18tree.

00:54:20Oh, well, I

00:54:21guess I was

00:54:22surrounded by

00:54:22the undead

00:54:23after all.

00:54:23I thought I

00:54:24was in a

00:54:25Madonna tour.

00:54:26It turns out

00:54:26I'm in the

00:54:27Michael Jackson

00:54:28dance routine.

00:54:31Thriller!

00:54:32All right.

00:54:34Love Steph's

00:54:35voice, even

00:54:35when I don't

00:54:35agree.

00:54:36His voice

00:54:36is still

00:54:36tops.

00:54:38Well, it's

00:54:38not the

00:54:38voice I

00:54:39wanted, man.

00:54:41The voice

00:54:42I wanted

00:54:42was a

00:54:43singing voice

00:54:44and all I

00:54:45got was a

00:54:46really great

00:54:47speaking voice.

00:54:47Now, you

00:54:49might argue,

00:54:49and you'd

00:54:50probably be

00:54:50right, that

00:54:51it's a little

00:54:51bit more

00:54:52important to

00:54:52have a good

00:54:53speaking voice

00:54:54when talking

00:54:54about philosophy

00:54:55than a good

00:54:57singing voice,

00:54:58particularly if

00:54:58you want a

00:54:59tenor, because

00:54:59people who

00:55:00sing tenor

00:55:01don't have

00:55:02pleasant speaking

00:55:03voices.

00:55:03You've got to

00:55:03be baritone or

00:55:04maybe bass

00:55:05for that.

00:55:07So I wanted

00:55:08to sing higher,

00:55:09but I instead

00:55:10got, and I'm

00:55:11actually glad that

00:55:12I did try to

00:55:13sing higher and

00:55:13work on all of

00:55:14that kind of

00:55:14stuff and take

00:55:14singing lessons

00:55:15because it gave

00:55:15me a pretty

00:55:16good control over

00:55:16my voice, gave

00:55:17me some

00:55:17flexibility and

00:55:18so on.

00:55:19So I

00:55:19appreciate that.

00:55:20But it's not

00:55:20the voice I

00:55:21wanted.

00:55:21It's just the

00:55:22voice the world

00:55:22needed.

00:55:23So unfair.

00:55:26But thank you.

00:55:27I appreciate

00:55:27that.

00:55:31Steph, how

00:55:33do you

00:55:34square, it's

00:55:35hip to be

00:55:36square, the

00:55:38K-selected,

00:55:39ooh, now I

00:55:40want to kick

00:55:40up, the K-selected

00:55:41biological drive for

00:55:42nepotism and

00:55:44heavy parental

00:55:44investment, which is

00:55:45key to motivation,

00:55:46legacy and wealth

00:55:47creation in free

00:55:48markets?

00:55:49What?

00:55:50How do you

00:55:51square the K-selected

00:55:52biological drive for

00:55:53nepotism and heavy

00:55:54parental investment,

00:55:55which is key to

00:55:55motivation, legacy and

00:55:57wealth creation in

00:55:58free markets?

00:55:59Okay, so when you

00:56:00say how do I square

00:56:01something, you've got

00:56:01to give me something

00:56:02to square against.

00:56:03In the free market,

00:56:04under universal ethics,

00:56:06human nature's kin

00:56:07bias fundamentally

00:56:08clashes with the

00:56:09impartiality required for

00:56:10high-functioning,

00:56:11voluntary meritocracy.

00:56:12well, nepotism is

00:56:22potentially very

00:56:23productive, right?

00:56:25So let's take an

00:56:27example.

00:56:28So we got Bob and

00:56:30Bob Jr.

00:56:31We're giving the

00:56:32palindrome names a

00:56:33real workout today.

00:56:34Bob and Bob Jr.

00:56:35Now Bob is a

00:56:35brilliant businessman

00:56:36and his son, Bob

00:56:38Jr., is likely to be

00:56:40smarter than your

00:56:41average bear.

00:56:42I mean, there'll be

00:56:42some regression to

00:56:43the mean, but what

00:56:44happens is Bob Jr.

00:56:48grows up hearing lots

00:56:50of business stories from

00:56:51his father, right?

00:56:53Oh, this happened with

00:56:54this supplier, this

00:56:54happened with this

00:56:55employer, blah, blah,

00:56:56blah, blah, blah, blah.

00:56:57How would you solve the

00:56:58problem?

00:56:58Blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:56:59blah, right?

00:56:59So Bob Jr.

00:57:01gets 20 years of

00:57:03business education by

00:57:04the time he's 25.

00:57:07And he even overhears,

00:57:09if it's not coming to

00:57:09him directly, he

00:57:10overhears his father

00:57:11talking to his wife,

00:57:13his father brings over

00:57:14business partners, and

00:57:15he listens in, and so

00:57:16on.

00:57:17So he's getting a huge

00:57:18business education, not

00:57:21just in business

00:57:22principles in general,

00:57:23but in Bob's specific

00:57:25business.

00:57:27Let's say Bob runs a

00:57:28courier company or

00:57:29something like that.

00:57:31So is Bob Jr.

00:57:34a face out of the

00:57:35crowd, a random person

00:57:36in the back of a

00:57:37Degas painting, a

00:57:38thumbprint of blank

00:57:39humanity, when it

00:57:40comes to who should

00:57:41take over Bob

00:57:42Sr.'s business.

00:57:44Bob Jr.

00:57:45has a massive

00:57:45advantage.

00:57:47He probably has a

00:57:48similar kind of

00:57:48brain, he probably

00:57:49has at least somewhat

00:57:50similar IQ, and he's

00:57:52had 20 years of

00:57:53business education

00:57:53because he probably

00:57:54worked there as a

00:57:55student, right?

00:57:57So he's had huge

00:57:58amounts of experience.

00:57:59I mean, I remember

00:58:00I worked at a

00:58:02company once where

00:58:04the CEO's daughter

00:58:06was a data

00:58:07wrangler, and I

00:58:10had some skepticism

00:58:11about this, and

00:58:13everyone told me

00:58:13she's insanely

00:58:15good.

00:58:16She understands

00:58:16this data, she can

00:58:17wrangle it and

00:58:18maneuver it and fix

00:58:19it and change it and

00:58:20do all of this

00:58:20amazing stuff.

00:58:22So, yeah, because

00:58:24she'd grown up with

00:58:25the business and so

00:58:26on.

00:58:27So nepotism is

00:58:28incredibly efficient

00:58:29and effective,

00:58:30right?

00:58:31So, with regards to

00:58:32my daughter, I've

00:58:34mentioned this before,

00:58:34so I'll keep it

00:58:35brief, I would

00:58:36constantly throw

00:58:36business challenges

00:58:37at her.

00:58:38Like, we'd go to

00:58:38a Tim Hortons and

00:58:40she'd want a bagel

00:58:41and they would be

00:58:42out of bagels,

00:58:43right?

00:58:43And so I would

00:58:44say, okay, so let's

00:58:44say you were working

00:58:45at the Tim Hortons,

00:58:46how would you solve

00:58:47that?

00:58:47And we went through

00:58:48all the various

00:58:48scenarios, you'd call

00:58:49head office, you'd

00:58:50drive over to a

00:58:51neighboring Tim's to

00:58:52get some bagels,

00:58:52you'd go pick up

00:58:53some bagels from

00:58:54the convenience store,

00:58:55like, how would you

00:58:56solve the problem so

00:58:57you wouldn't have to

00:58:58say out of bagels?

00:58:59And I said, you

00:59:00know, you don't

00:59:00just want to, you're

00:59:01not just an employee

00:59:01like some dead-eyed,

00:59:03isn't it curious kind

00:59:05of guy staring at a

00:59:06podcaster, but you

00:59:07want to be an active

00:59:08person to solve

00:59:09problems in a

00:59:09business.

00:59:10So we've been

00:59:10talking about

00:59:11business challenges

00:59:11and problems from

00:59:12the very beginning,

00:59:13so should she ever

00:59:14wanted to go into

00:59:14business, she would

00:59:15have quite a lot of,

00:59:16she would have quite

00:59:17an advantage.

00:59:17So what's wrong

00:59:19with nepotism?

00:59:20There's nothing in

00:59:21particular wrong with

00:59:22it.

00:59:22Now, of course, if

00:59:23you've got a kid who

00:59:24doesn't want to go

00:59:24into the family

00:59:25business, then why

00:59:27not?

00:59:28I mean, they don't

00:59:28have to, right?

00:59:29But if they do want

00:59:30to, then they're

00:59:31going to have a lot

00:59:32of skills just based

00:59:33upon being around

00:59:33their father.

00:59:34Plus, if you're

00:59:36going to hire someone

00:59:36to take over Bob

00:59:37Senior's courier

00:59:38business, Bob

00:59:39Junior's a pretty

00:59:39good person because

00:59:41Bob Junior has free

00:59:42expert multi-decade

00:59:45business advice coming

00:59:46from his father.

00:59:47You hire someone

00:59:47from outside, he

00:59:48doesn't get that.

00:59:51Right?

00:59:51So Bob Junior takes

00:59:52over as CEO of Bob

00:59:54Senior's company.

00:59:55When Bob Senior

00:59:55retires, Bob Junior

00:59:57can call his dad

00:59:57and say, hey, man,

00:59:59anytime, anytime,

01:00:00anytime, right?

01:00:01Oh, it's that George

01:00:02Bush used to say,

01:00:03the younger George

01:00:04W. Bush used to

01:00:05say, in politics,

01:00:08access is everything

01:00:09and I can pick up

01:00:10phone and call my

01:00:11dad, who's had

01:00:11decades of experience

01:00:12as head of the CIA

01:00:13and president, blah,

01:00:14blah, blah.

01:00:15I can call my dad

01:00:15and get any advice,

01:00:17right?

01:00:17Getting a hold of my

01:00:18dad is not easy, but

01:00:18he'll always answer my

01:00:19call.

01:00:19So that's an example

01:00:21of how that kind

01:00:21of nepotism works.

01:00:24Now, only nepotism

01:00:25is not particularly

01:00:28great because there

01:00:30could be better people

01:00:30out there.

01:00:31But nepotism is a

01:00:32pretty good place to

01:00:33start.

01:00:36UPB is the only thing

01:00:37that's ever made

01:00:38sense.

01:00:41Will Rene Good's

01:00:41wife forgive the

01:00:42officer?

01:00:43No, she won't.

01:00:43All IQ levels hate

01:00:48truth.

01:00:49I don't ever try to

01:00:50teach anyone anything

01:00:51anymore unless they

01:00:52ask me real nicely.

01:00:54Real nice.

01:00:56Steph, I love you.

01:00:57I love you too.

01:00:59But I still think we

01:01:00should see other

01:01:00people.

01:01:00That's an old

01:01:01Seinfeld joke.

01:01:03How can UPB be

01:01:05implemented worldwide?

01:01:06Well, you're going to

01:01:07have to share

01:01:07PeacefulParenting.com.

01:01:09All I can do is spend

01:01:11a year writing the

01:01:12book and I'm

01:01:1340 years researching

01:01:14the book, read it as

01:01:16engagingly and

01:01:17entertainingly as

01:01:18possible, and make

01:01:19it free.

01:01:21I really can't.

01:01:22And tell everyone

01:01:23every single show.

01:01:24If you, I mean, I'm

01:01:25not saying you

01:01:25haven't, but if you

01:01:26haven't shared the

01:01:26book, then expecting

01:01:28something to happen

01:01:29without you saying

01:01:30what steps can I

01:01:31personally take to

01:01:32implement it?

01:01:33Well.

01:01:41What?

01:01:43I don't understand

01:01:44this question about

01:01:45Nick Fuentes.

01:01:46What is

01:01:47wang half?

01:01:50I don't know what

01:01:50that, that means.

01:01:57Richard on X.

01:01:59Wikipedia says you

01:02:00were born in Ireland.

01:02:02Is this true?

01:02:03Actually, it's been

01:02:04out of Ireland.

01:02:05Ireland.

01:02:05How do you feel about

01:02:09what's happening in

01:02:10Ireland now?

01:02:11Oh, it's wretched.

01:02:13I have to avoid some

01:02:15of the topics that are

01:02:18out there in the world

01:02:19because I've done

01:02:20everything I could,

01:02:22including some quite

01:02:23dangerous stuff to help

01:02:24Ireland, and I think

01:02:26it's very sad.

01:02:27It's unbelievably,

01:02:29heartbreakingly awful

01:02:30and terrible and terribly

01:02:32sad.

01:02:32I've done everything

01:02:34I could, and I can't

01:02:36do anything more, so I

01:02:37just have to kind of

01:02:38avoid the topic, but

01:02:38yeah, it's just, it's

01:02:39appalling.

01:02:42All right.

01:02:45I had a conversation

01:02:46with some co-workers,

01:02:48says someone.

01:02:49Massey, love you, I

01:02:51saw.

01:02:53Love my way, it's a

01:02:55new world.

01:02:56Psychedelic fur is

01:02:57Massey Hall.

01:02:57I had a conversation

01:02:59with some co-workers

01:03:00earlier today in which

01:03:03all three of them were

01:03:03defending spanking or

01:03:04slapping as a means of

01:03:05making sure my kids know

01:03:06how serious this

01:03:07situation is.

01:03:08I left the truth sword

01:03:09sheathed, but I'm

01:03:10interested to know your

01:03:10thoughts on this

01:03:11sentiment.

01:03:12Why are you discussing

01:03:14moral philosophy at work?

01:03:20Why?

01:03:27I would not recommend

01:03:31it.

01:03:34So, what you can say

01:03:36with regards to people

01:03:39talking about spanking,

01:03:41sometimes the very best

01:03:43you can do is simply

01:03:44not agree.

01:03:46Just say, I don't see it

01:03:47quite the same way, it's

01:03:48not my particular

01:03:49perspective, and just

01:03:50leave it at that.

01:03:51Then at least they know

01:03:52it's not a universal.

01:03:53Most people will never

01:03:55doubt what everyone else

01:03:56agrees with.

01:03:58I mean, that's

01:03:58culture, right?

01:03:59Most people will never

01:04:00doubt what everyone

01:04:00else...

01:04:01Sometimes it only takes

01:04:02one person in your

01:04:04whole life to disagree

01:04:04with something, and

01:04:05not even vociferously or

01:04:07aggressively, but most

01:04:09people will just agree

01:04:11with every unanimous

01:04:13opinion.

01:04:14It's a low-T thing, but

01:04:15you know, whatever,

01:04:15right?

01:04:16So, just one

01:04:18disagreement.

01:04:19Now, they might come

01:04:19back and say, well,

01:04:20what did you mean you

01:04:21didn't agree, right?

01:04:22And then you can say,

01:04:23well, you know, I think

01:04:24that there are maybe

01:04:25better alternatives to

01:04:27spanking.

01:04:27It's not my particular

01:04:28preference, and so on,

01:04:31and just leave it at

01:04:31that.

01:04:32But it's okay to play...

01:04:33I know this for me was

01:04:35like 7,000 shows, but

01:04:36it's okay to play hard to

01:04:37get when it comes to the

01:04:40spread of wisdom.

01:04:42Okay to play hard to get.

01:04:43You don't have to stalk

01:04:44people or chase them down

01:04:46with facts.

01:04:48And be careful at work.

01:04:51Be careful at work.

01:04:52You get moral enemies at

01:04:55work.

01:04:55Your time at that

01:04:56company is very much

01:04:57numbered.

01:04:58The countdown has

01:04:59begun.

01:05:03All right.

01:05:06Oh, somebody broke out

01:05:07that acronym.

01:05:08Yeah, I'm not talking

01:05:09about that.

01:05:11All right.

01:05:12I'd say, says someone,

01:05:16trust has a place in

01:05:17nepotism as well.

01:05:19Example, you would trust

01:05:20Izzy over some stranger

01:05:21with better qualifications.

01:05:24Okay.

01:05:25So when it comes to what it

01:05:27is that I do here, who

01:05:29would have better

01:05:30qualifications than

01:05:31someone I raised?

01:05:32Your answer is very

01:05:38helpful.

01:05:38You're very welcome.

01:05:39Great question.

01:05:40Intuitively, it just feels

01:05:42that nepotism has a

01:05:42conflict with true

01:05:43meritocracy.

01:05:44I just don't know to

01:05:45which degree.

01:05:47Well, it could or it

01:05:49could not, but the

01:05:50offspring of successful

01:05:52people have a massive

01:05:54advantage, right?

01:05:54So is it Scott?

01:05:58Scott Eastwood is

01:06:00Clint Eastwood's son.

01:06:03Very, very good

01:06:03looking, charismatic

01:06:04guy.

01:06:05Now, if you're Clint

01:06:06Eastwood's son, you're

01:06:07probably going to get

01:06:07the audition because

01:06:08you're Clint Eastwood's

01:06:09son.

01:06:09It comes with a certain

01:06:10name recognition.

01:06:11Maybe your father will

01:06:12help out publicizing the

01:06:14show.

01:06:14The fact that it's Clint

01:06:15Eastwood's son will get

01:06:16articles.

01:06:17So just having the name

01:06:18Eastwood and having your

01:06:20dad be Clint Eastwood is

01:06:21going to give you an

01:06:21advantage when it comes to

01:06:23selling a movie.

01:06:25But if you're a bad

01:06:25actor, they won't cast

01:06:26you.

01:06:26But you'll get your foot

01:06:27in the door, all that

01:06:28your name can do, all

01:06:30that a famous name can

01:06:31do is open the door.

01:06:32It can't close the

01:06:32deal.

01:06:36All right.

01:06:37Steph, I plan on

01:06:39gestational surrogacy and

01:06:40becoming a single father

01:06:41to avoid risking 50% of

01:06:43my assets and paying a

01:06:44woman to sleep with other

01:06:45men while receiving

01:06:45child spousal support from

01:06:47me.

01:06:47Crazy?

01:06:48I think so.

01:06:49I think so.

01:06:51Yeah.

01:06:52I've got to show, maybe

01:06:53someone can dig up the

01:06:54number, where I go

01:06:55through all the steps that

01:06:56you need to take in

01:06:59order to reduce your

01:07:00risk of divorce to less

01:07:02than 5%.

01:07:02So, gestational

01:07:07surrogacy is a moral

01:07:09challenge.

01:07:09I get it's all

01:07:11voluntary, but it's not

01:07:13something that the child

01:07:13would choose, if the

01:07:16child could choose.

01:07:18So, I'm not a huge fan.

01:07:21Oh, so Kay says, I do

01:07:28that with homeschooling.

01:07:29A lady at church called

01:07:30me brave for homeschooling

01:07:32and I said, well, she's

01:07:33brave sending her kids to

01:07:34school, and it was super

01:07:35awkward.

01:07:35It's just annoying how

01:07:36people talk down to you

01:07:37when you do something

01:07:38different.

01:07:40See, and I hear what

01:07:41you're saying, Kay.

01:07:41I really do, and I

01:07:42understand that perspective,

01:07:44but I find that the

01:07:49best way to deal with

01:07:50trolls if you want to

01:07:52engage with them.

01:07:53Oh, The Truth About

01:07:54Marriage and Divorce.

01:07:55Thanks, James.

01:07:55The show is 6130.

01:07:57Wait, was that a

01:07:58Rush album?

01:07:59Oh, no, that's 830 in

01:08:01military time.

01:08:026130, The Truth About

01:08:03Marriage and Divorce.

01:08:05So, if somebody says, oh,

01:08:07you're very brave to

01:08:09homeschool your daughter.

01:08:11Someone said to me, you're

01:08:12very brave to homeschool

01:08:12your daughter.

01:08:13I'm like, sorry, brave.

01:08:14I'm sorry, brave how?

01:08:16What do you mean?

01:08:17It's not hostile.

01:08:19It's just, well, what do

01:08:19you mean?

01:08:20Oh, I just meant that, you

01:08:22know, I mean, she's not

01:08:23going to have much socializing

01:08:25and it's brave for you to

01:08:26take that.

01:08:27So, I'm like, well, maybe

01:08:30you don't know many

01:08:31homeschoolers, but I'm not,

01:08:32I mean, do you think, why

01:08:33would you think that she

01:08:34doesn't get much

01:08:35socializing, right?

01:08:37Yeah, James is an

01:08:38archive ninja.

01:08:39That's right.

01:08:41So, it's just curiosity.

01:08:42Why would you, why would

01:08:44you, and it's not like,

01:08:45why the hell would you

01:08:45think that?

01:08:46It's like, oh, why do

01:08:48you think that kids don't

01:08:50get much socializing,

01:08:51right?

01:08:51I mean, we meet up with

01:08:53other kids, we meet up

01:08:54with other families, we

01:08:55have youth groups and so

01:08:56on, so we do get the

01:08:56socializing, but there's no

01:09:03bullying in homeschooling

01:09:04and also, you know, there

01:09:05are advantages.

01:09:05We do get to control the

01:09:07curricula to a large

01:09:08degree and stuff that we

01:09:10don't agree with doesn't

01:09:12get taught, at least

01:09:13without counter-arguments

01:09:15and so on, because, you

01:09:16know, the problem with

01:09:16government schools is they

01:09:18don't give you

01:09:19counter-arguments.

01:09:25So, when you don't get

01:09:29counter-arguments, you can't

01:09:30think, right?

01:09:32So, so everything in

01:09:33government schools is, this is

01:09:36the way it is, it's just a

01:09:38fact, and anybody who

01:09:39questions it is a Nazi or

01:09:41something like that, right?

01:09:42So, that's one of the big

01:09:45problems with government

01:09:48schools is, you know, at

01:09:49least you can give the

01:09:50arguments and the

01:09:51counter-arguments, right?

01:09:53Yeah, better shows, let's be

01:09:54curious, but I get angry

01:09:55instead, right, right.

01:09:58And you get angry, I

01:10:00understand it, but let me

01:10:02ask you this, and I could be

01:10:04wrong about all of this, as

01:10:05is the case with just about

01:10:06anything, but if you are a

01:10:11hundred percent certain about

01:10:14your position, would you get

01:10:17angry, right?

01:10:21So, if somebody, you write two

01:10:24and two makes four, and

01:10:25somebody says, no, two and

01:10:26two makes six, you're like,

01:10:28what?

01:10:30What makes you say that?

01:10:32Right?

01:10:32If you were, try this, just

01:10:34try this on as a mindset, it's

01:10:35really, really interesting.

01:10:38Anger usually is interpreted

01:10:41as doubt, right?

01:10:48Anger is interpreted as

01:10:51doubt.

01:10:54If you are, if you have

01:10:56overcome your own objections

01:10:58to a position, and I'll sort of

01:11:02give you an example just from

01:11:03tonight.

01:11:03So, earlier there was a troll,

01:11:05on YouTube, who was saying

01:11:07that Steph has sanctioned the

01:11:09state murder of Rene Good

01:11:11or something like that,

01:11:12right?

01:11:12I know that I haven't.

01:11:15I know that it's not been

01:11:17established that it was

01:11:18murder.

01:11:18It could be self-defense and

01:11:20so on.

01:11:20Everyone knows where I stand

01:11:21with regards to government

01:11:22power as a whole.

01:11:26I think it's a tragic incident,

01:11:28but it also is very helpful to

01:11:30remind people that every time

01:11:31they asked the government to do

01:11:33something, guns are going to come

01:11:35out.

01:11:36So, I have no patience for the

01:11:37people who are shocked that the

01:11:39government rules are enforced

01:11:40through violence.

01:11:43I was thinking the other day,

01:11:45oh, no, it was today.

01:11:45I was thinking today, wouldn't it

01:11:46be kind of funny?

01:11:47So, in lots of places, I think

01:11:49it's in America, you can just

01:11:51show up and sign an affidavit

01:11:52that, yeah, yeah, I'm eligible to

01:11:55vote.

01:11:55You don't have to show any ID or

01:11:56any proof.

01:11:57Yeah, yeah, check it off, right?

01:11:59And you can also, in some

01:12:00places, voucher up to 12 people.

01:12:02Yeah, yeah, they're totally.

01:12:03So, can you imagine if that's how

01:12:05taxes work, that you could just,

01:12:06yeah, I've paid my taxes.

01:12:08Yep.

01:12:09Yep.

01:12:09Fine.

01:12:10No, yeah, absolutely.

01:12:10I've paid my...

01:12:11Oh, also, these 12 people I know

01:12:13totally paid their taxes.

01:12:15Can you imagine if that was how

01:12:17taxes worked?

01:12:21We've never had a million years.

01:12:22But you want control over taxes,

01:12:23so you make voting work or pretend

01:12:25to have it work this way.

01:12:26So, yeah, what if you were just

01:12:29100% certain?

01:12:32What if you have overcome, right?

01:12:35So, when people come at me and I

01:12:38get angry, the way that I interpret

01:12:41that, for myself, right?

01:12:42I'm not saying this is some universal

01:12:43rule.

01:12:45If I get angry when someone comes at

01:12:48me, it's because I doubt my own

01:12:50perspective.

01:12:51All right.

01:12:57So, there are people who say,

01:13:00oh, Steph totally panicked about

01:13:03COVID and was promoting the terror-based

01:13:06narrative and so on, right?

01:13:09And I've done whole explanations about

01:13:12all of this and so on.

01:13:13And I'm very comfortable with my

01:13:17position on COVID and what I did

01:13:20during COVID.

01:13:22I said the lockdowns were a terrible

01:13:23idea.

01:13:24I can't tell people not to take the

01:13:26vaccine because that's medical advice.

01:13:27I can't give medical advice, but I can

01:13:30certainly say I didn't take it and give

01:13:32the reasons for that.

01:13:33And, you know, protected my whole

01:13:36family and people who were willing to

01:13:38listen.

01:13:38And I pointed out very early on, at

01:13:42great cost to myself, I might add, did

01:13:43an entire presentation called The

01:13:45Case Against China, which is to say

01:13:47how it did come from a lab in China,

01:13:48which is now at least 50-50 accepted

01:13:51even by the alphabet agencies.

01:13:53So, I think I did pretty well over

01:13:56COVID.

01:13:56I railed against the lockdowns and I

01:13:58railed against the idea that you could

01:14:01control the spread of something that

01:14:06was engineered to spread, right?

01:14:07So, one of the reasons they couldn't

01:14:09say that COVID came from a lab was

01:14:11that if COVID came from a lab, there

01:14:13was no point having lockdowns because

01:14:15if it's engineered to infect human

01:14:17beings, like, so the reason why you'd

01:14:18have lockdowns is you don't want a

01:14:21virus that's hard to infect people.

01:14:24You don't want it to get better at

01:14:25infecting people, right?

01:14:26This is sort of my, obviously,

01:14:27amateur understanding.

01:14:29If the COVID virus was engineered in a

01:14:33lab specifically to be infectious to

01:14:35people, then there's no point having

01:14:36lockdowns because it's going to spread

01:14:38anyway, right?

01:14:39Yeah, the case against China is show

01:14:414,600, the case against China.

01:14:45Thank you for not taking it.

01:14:46We might have lost you like we lost

01:14:47Scott Adams.

01:14:48Yeah, I appreciate that.

01:14:50I appreciate that.

01:14:51I mean, having had cancer before, the

01:14:52last thing I wanted to do was do some

01:14:54mRNA muckaboos.

01:14:59Okay, says, I also think I get angry

01:15:01because I can tell they're being mean,

01:15:03trying to bully me into falling in line

01:15:04and doing what they do, but I can see

01:15:06how that's signaling insecurity.

01:15:09But they can't.

01:15:11See, can they make you?

01:15:12No.

01:15:12I mean, if there was some big thing to

01:15:14ban homeschooling in Canada or something

01:15:16like that, then that would be something

01:15:17to get angry about, perhaps.

01:15:19But the fact that she says, oh, you're

01:15:22so brave for homeschooling.

01:15:25But why is it brave in particular?

01:15:27I mean, I appreciate the compliment, but

01:15:29I'm not sure what you mean.

01:15:30And, you know, you can ask people stuff

01:15:33out of genuine curiosity, but she can't

01:15:35make you stop homeschooling, right?

01:15:37She can't, right?

01:15:38There's a great, is it Scott Jennings?

01:15:40Is he on CNN?

01:15:42When some kid, I can't remember, some

01:15:46Nepo kid was talking about, well, you

01:15:48can't say illegal alien.

01:15:49And he's like, brother, I don't even

01:15:50know you.

01:15:51How are you going to enforce that?

01:15:52How are you going to make me say what

01:15:53you do and don't want me to say?

01:15:54And that's what it's called in the law.

01:15:56So I'm just going to call it that.

01:15:58And Scott Jennings was pretty good that

01:16:00way, right?

01:16:00Like, how are you going to enforce,

01:16:02right?

01:16:02How are you going to tell me what I

01:16:04can and can't say?

01:16:05How are you going to enforce that

01:16:06decree or whatever it is, right?

01:16:12I wish I didn't care what people

01:16:14think and could be unbothered,

01:16:15hopefully one day.

01:16:16Well, no, there's nothing wrong with

01:16:18caring what people think.

01:16:19But the anger, because you've been

01:16:21manipulated and bullied in the past,

01:16:23you think that everyone, or there's a

01:16:25more likelihood that you think people

01:16:27are trying to manipulate and bully you

01:16:28in the present, right?

01:16:30So, you know, when people say,

01:16:38why, but you can't, you can't

01:16:42discipline your kids without

01:16:43aggression.

01:16:44You can't discipline, discipline your

01:16:46kids without punishment.

01:16:49Why not?

01:16:51Why not?

01:16:52Yeah, when PTSD is kind of a thing,

01:16:55right?

01:16:55So if you've had people really bully

01:16:56you in the past, that's really easy

01:16:59to be oversensitive to bullying,

01:17:01right?

01:17:01Like I did the show on Jeremy Kaufman,

01:17:10who I like.

01:17:11He ran LBRY for quite some time,

01:17:14which was a platform I used,

01:17:15and I think he got kind of hounded out

01:17:17of existence.

01:17:18But he did do this thing where his two-year-old

01:17:20wouldn't pick up a carrot, so he made the

01:17:22two-year-old sit for like four or five hours

01:17:24until the two-year-old picked up the carrot,

01:17:26and I did a show on it.

01:17:29I had a drive, so I wasn't planning on

01:17:31doing a 40-minute show, but it was an

01:17:32interesting question, so I did a topic

01:17:34and got, he seemed to get a little bit

01:17:35huffy, which, you know, what I can

01:17:36understand, it's not fun to be, to get

01:17:38that kind of feedback, although I was

01:17:39very positive towards the guy, I think

01:17:40he's a pretty good guy.

01:17:42But it was kind of funny, because it's

01:17:44like, well, you could have just called

01:17:45me, and we could have talked it out.

01:17:47It's like, oh, so you don't like being

01:17:49corrected, but you have a whole show

01:17:51about correcting your two-year-old,

01:17:52but you don't like being corrected.

01:17:53All right, um, what do we got here?

01:17:59That show, 6271, we're gonna get up

01:18:04there.

01:18:05You know, if I was a betting man, well,

01:18:08I am a betting man, which is why I don't

01:18:09bet, because I like to bet, if I was a

01:18:11betting man, I'd say, how many shows I'm

01:18:13gonna buy, am I gonna produce before I

01:18:14die?

01:18:16That's interesting.

01:18:17I think, let's see here, so I've been

01:18:19doing this for 21 years, I have 6,300

01:18:22shows, or something like that.

01:18:24If I do this for another 20 years, that

01:18:25takes me to 79, I can definitely do

01:18:27that.

01:18:28I probably won't be doing two shows a

01:18:30day like I did at the beginning.

01:18:32I did a commute there, commute back, and

01:18:33then shows on the weekend.

01:18:35So, but I think I will get at least to

01:18:3711,000.

01:18:39I think at least we'll get to 11,000.

01:18:40All right.

01:18:49But yeah, just ask people.

01:18:50You're very brave to homeschool.

01:18:52Oh, that's interesting.

01:18:56What do you mean?

01:18:57Help me understand.

01:18:58It's not my perspective, but you could

01:19:00be right, but I'd love to know what you

01:19:03think.

01:19:03It's a delicate thing to say to people,

01:19:09tell me why you think what you think

01:19:11without it sounding like some big

01:19:12criticism.

01:19:16Does your wife have any sisters?

01:19:17I'm asking for a single guy.

01:19:19I know.

01:19:19I'm not going to.

01:19:20I mean, I appreciate the question.

01:19:21I'm not going to put out info about my

01:19:23wife's family, but I certainly do

01:19:25appreciate the question.

01:19:28All right.

01:19:32And yeah, did I miss anything here?

01:19:33Let me just go back to the beginning

01:19:34and start again.

01:19:39Yeah, if you're confident about stuff,

01:19:46Steph, if you're confident about stuff,

01:19:48you tend not to be too defensive.

01:19:49Steph, longevity and health is strongly

01:19:51correlated with leg lean mass and VO2

01:19:53max.

01:19:54Do you exercise regularly?

01:19:55Uh, I exercise pretty much every day.

01:20:00Um, pretty much every day, at least

01:20:02half an hour to an hour.

01:20:04I sure hope it helps because it's a

01:20:06big time investment.

01:20:07And so I do exercise a lot, a lot.

01:20:12And, um, hopefully it will, hopefully

01:20:15it will work out.

01:20:23All right.

01:20:23Do we have any other questions, issues,

01:20:25challenges, problems, thoughts on your

01:20:26mind?

01:20:27Happy to hear, happy to answer,

01:20:30happy to mull and ponder.

01:20:32I will ponder ponderously.

01:20:35Passive aggressive behavior is loathsome.

01:20:37My mother wrote the book on it.

01:20:39Yeah.

01:20:40Besides walking in light weights,

01:20:42what else?

01:20:42Oh, that's delightful.

01:21:04Oh, that's delightful.

01:21:04Oh, besides walking in light weights.

01:21:14Bro, you should join me for a workout one day.

01:21:17Your nipples would hit the ceiling.

01:21:19I know.

01:21:19I don't just do light weights.

01:21:21I mean, I don't get, I'm not a big muscle guy.

01:21:23Like I don't take any supplements and I don't,

01:21:26I'm not working to bust out of my suit jacket

01:21:30or anything.

01:21:31I turn sideways to go through the door,

01:21:33but jazzercise and Pilates.

01:21:40Actually, I have one of my weights right here.

01:21:42Look, look.

01:21:44Oh, oh, feel the burn.

01:21:46Oh, I can't.

01:21:47I pulled something.

01:21:48Oh, God.

01:21:49Oh, oh.

01:21:53Walking in light weights.

01:22:04Walking in light weights.

01:22:05Listen, I don't bench press with your intellect or empathy.

01:22:09Because that's pretty lightweight.

01:22:10Just kidding, right?

01:22:16Oh, that's very funny.

01:22:19Besides walking in light weights.

01:22:22It's just amazing to me that people just say stuff

01:22:24without even wondering how it's going to land.

01:22:27Anyway, what if you, oh, sorry.

01:22:29In all seriousness, it would be cool to see you and your wife

01:22:31together on the show sometimes.

01:22:33I know it's unlikely, but your marriage family are an inspiration.

01:22:36Well, thank you.

01:22:36I appreciate that.

01:22:37She's not a, I'm not a public person, really.

01:22:44Let's see here.

01:22:48What does, uh, why does the mob always get a pass?

01:22:54It seems people are quick to blame leadership, but never blame the average person when the

01:22:58average person arguably is causing more collective damage.

01:23:01The mob doesn't always get a pass.

01:23:04Are you kidding me?

01:23:05Go talk to January Sixer.

01:23:08They don't get a pass.

01:23:10I mean, if you're on the left, you get a pass.

01:23:12Because the left is pro-criminal, or rather they like to weaponize.

01:23:15Criminals are to the left to buy a weapon against normal society.

01:23:18Uh, where would you prefer your number one fan to follow you out of all the platforms

01:23:24you're on?

01:23:25Do you think censorship, uh, will, a wave will come post-Trump?

01:23:29Oh, yeah.

01:23:29I mean, arrests are going to come post-Trump for sure.

01:23:35Um, I, so, uh, another one of the exercises I do is, um, I lift, I have a little pink pencil

01:23:42with a, uh, a troll with fuzzy hair on top, and I use it to write my, in my pink diary with

01:23:47the locks, so I lift that, uh, quite a bit, for sure.

01:23:51Uh, that's, that's a challenge.

01:23:54Uh, for sure.

01:23:56Uh, sometimes, um, I will buy a hardcover Harlequin Romance, so it's a little heavier,

01:24:02and sometimes I feel a bit of a burn in my shoulders from turning the pages to find out

01:24:06how Chad, uh, Thundercott comes out on top, so.

01:24:11I do, yeah, I do take creatine.

01:24:13Um.

01:24:17Uh.

01:24:17Uh, came out wrong, but at least you're laughing.

01:24:20I don't think it came out wrong.

01:24:22I think you typed exactly what you thought.

01:24:24But, uh, could you tell us about your diet since your operation?

01:24:31Um, uh, well, today, what did I eat today?

01:24:35Uh, I had a scone.

01:24:37I woke up at about nine.

01:24:38I had a scone.

01:24:39I wasn't too hungry.

01:24:40I had a scone around three o'clock.

01:24:42Today, my wife made a little bowl of mac and cheese.

01:24:45She makes a homemade mac and cheese that is fantastic.

01:24:47And I had a sausage.

01:24:49And that's it.

01:24:52So, I usually only have, uh, one, one reasonable-sized meal a day.

01:24:57And I'll snack a little bit here and there, but that's about it.

01:24:59Um, what are some of your thoughts on Martin Luther King and Malcolm X?

01:25:07I mean, it's just put forward by the communists to destabilize society, so.

01:25:11I'd love to pump iron with Steph before I die.

01:25:14LOL.

01:25:16Should we get everybody together to do a free domain 5K?

01:25:19Uh, I don't run.

01:25:20I don't run.

01:25:21I mean, I can run.

01:25:22I, I, I even sprinted last year pretty, pretty far.

01:25:25But I don't, I don't run.

01:25:27Um, for me, as I get older, I'm looking for non-impact stuff.

01:25:30Um, I will do, um, a bike machine.

01:25:34Uh, I will walk a lot.

01:25:35Um, I will even do Stairmaster from time to time.

01:25:38But I don't, uh, I don't run.

01:25:40I used to.

01:25:41I was, uh, I ran 24 miles once.

01:25:43Uh, I was on the cross-country team and so on when I was, uh, in my teens and ran a lot in my 20s.

01:25:49But, uh, I don't run, uh, anymore.

01:25:53Yeah, swimming is great.

01:25:54But, you know, it's not easy to get a hold of a pool, to put it mildly.

01:26:01Aussie here.

01:26:01How would you summarize your overall experience in Australia?

01:26:04Don't hold back.

01:26:06Uh, loved the people.

01:26:07Uh, loved the places.

01:26:09Um, your government, uh, was an absolute shitstorm.

01:26:12Uh, of, of non-enforcement.

01:26:14And, uh, let slip the dogs of war.

01:26:17They let slip the feral leftists to do whatever they wanted.

01:26:20And, uh, I mean, but, you know, nonetheless, they let me in.

01:26:23They let me speak.

01:26:24Uh, and let Lauren Southern speak.

01:26:26And all of that, so.

01:26:30But running provides minor impacts that are correlated with healthier spines.

01:26:35Yeah.

01:26:37I mean, I live in Canada.

01:26:39It's pretty tough to run unless you're on a machine, right?

01:26:43Because it's frozen.

01:26:50Could you do a 40-kilometer bike ride?

01:26:52I don't know.

01:26:53I mean, certainly if it was flat.

01:26:55I remember some years ago I did the five boroughs.

01:26:57They shut down New York and I did the five borough bike ride.

01:26:59I guess knees and ankles should also be considered.

01:27:03So, uh, uh, uh, shoulders, back, knees.

01:27:08Uh, these are the things that get men.

01:27:10And, uh, so far, uh, so good.

01:27:14I've had crunchy knees from time to time, but I work through those.

01:27:17So, uh, if you can avoid back injuries, like half of men my age have back issues.

01:27:25And they're hell.

01:27:25They're just absolute hell.

01:27:27So I do back stretches and, uh, you know, the bench thing where you kind of go down and

01:27:30up with your hands behind you.

01:27:31I do those and I do, I make sure I did lift the weights with grant.

01:27:35So you have to, uh, what do you think is your most controversial belief?

01:27:39Well, I'm not answering that.

01:27:43I'm not answering that.

01:27:45Do you remember your cross-country times?

01:27:46No, no, I don't.

01:27:48Then we weren't, I wasn't timed in that way.

01:27:50I wasn't running marathons or anything like that.

01:27:51I was just, when I worked up North, I did a lot of, uh, running.

01:27:54Uh, I did, yeah, I did actually, I did record myself working out recently because I wanted

01:28:04to check form.

01:28:05So maybe I'll post a picture or two from that so you can see how the frame looks without

01:28:11this sexy gray smoky t-shirt covering up the ebb.

01:28:18Hope to add an S to that.

01:28:20Actually, I could see abs when I was working out, uh, with a good light.

01:28:23I could see my abs, but they're not, they're not, uh, they're shy.

01:28:28I have, I have a condition.

01:28:30It's a middle-aged man condition called shy abs.

01:28:33Uh, they, um, they like to stay under the blanket.

01:28:36It's cold and they don't like to come out because, uh, they will get frostbite.

01:28:40And, uh, so they, they like to stay a smidge buried, uh, under a muffin top.

01:28:45Uh, but I can still vaguely see them.

01:28:47A little squinting and a little coaxing and, uh, some duct tape and, uh, mascara.

01:28:53And, uh, if you shared it right, uh, they can, uh, they can come out.

01:28:59Do you have a deathbed confession prepared so far as controversial beliefs are concerned?

01:29:03You mentioned something along those lines in a previous episode.

01:29:06Uh, no.

01:29:07Uh, I may do something at some point, but of course I have to also think about those who

01:29:11have come after me, right?

01:29:12So, all right.

01:29:20All right.

01:29:21So, I'll wait for a question or two more, but I really appreciate everyone's time tonight.

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01:29:26If you could, I would be very thrilled.

01:29:30All right.

01:29:31Thank you, everyone, so much for coming by tonight.

01:29:33A real pleasure.

01:29:34Freedomain.com slash donate to help out the show.

01:29:36Shop.freedomain.com.

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01:29:40Please, too, share all of that.

01:29:42Maybe I'll record a workout at some point.

01:29:45So, I did read Lauren Southern's new book.

01:29:47It's interesting, for sure.

01:29:49Lots of love, everyone.

01:29:50We'll see you Sunday morning at 10 a.m.

01:29:51Bye.

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