00:00Thank you very much.
00:30Kita tidak ada apa-apa maklum balas lagi lah setakat waktu ni.
00:34Dan juga saya juga ni pada semalam hanya dibenarkan untuk berjumpa dengan anak puan dalam tempoh masa yang sangat singkat
00:46iaitu 15 minit.
00:48Dan juga pihak pegawai penyiasat juga sangat strict dalam observing the time period for consultation tu.
00:57Dan ini adalah memang yang kita ni yang secara logiknya memang masa yang sangat tak mencukupi.
01:07Dan saya percaya bahawa ini bukanlah satu pindah kaya monasabah.
01:13Dan seolah-olah it's a kind of mockery sebab seolah-olahnya pihak polis membenarkan perjumpaan tu just for the sake
01:22of doing it.
01:22Tetapi bukanlah satu konsultasi perawaman yang efektif.
01:28Dan juga saya juga difahamkan bahawa terdapat intimidasi terhadap anak guam semasa ditahan dan tempoh siasatan.
01:42Dan juga memandangkan ia melibatkan seorang minor, seorang kanak-kanak.
01:48Dan juga penggunaan sosma adalah suatu perkara yang tidak wajar.
01:53Dan saya juga difahamkan bahawa dia seperti mana yang tempoh siasatan dilakukan tu adalah sama seperti mana orang dewasa disiasat.
02:07Dan juga dalam keadaan ini memang kita tahu kanak-kanak adalah seorang yang vulnerable.
02:16Dan adalah tidak wajar apabila polis menggunakan sosma seperti yang ini.
02:21It's too heavy handed lah apa yang saya boleh katakan.
02:24So now we have at least two children who are currently detained.
02:28Now both Erica and I, we just had the same 15 minutes that was given to Farida.
02:38And we were actually timed.
02:40So I want to mention that even the extra three or five minutes that was given,
02:45they made sure to tell us that it was a favor for us.
02:50That is wrong.
02:51We have a right to meet them.
02:53We have the, especially a child, they have the right to legal counsel.
02:57And any right should be pursuant to the criminal procedure court and the child act.
03:02Not sosma procedures used against children.
03:06Alright.
03:06Now with regards to the family, the family, both the families are devastated.
03:11They want their child to be returned immediately.
03:14We cannot accept any other outcome.
03:17They have to be released now, today.
03:21They have no reason to keep them detained under sosma laws.
03:25I believe investigation, they have had some time to investigate.
03:29Investigation should or ought to have been completed.
03:34Now, this is what I gather from the investigating officer from one of the children, one of the children or
03:42one of the child who has been arrested.
03:44He says that the investigation papers has been submitted to the attorney general chambers today, this afternoon.
03:51But they have not obtained instructions as to whether they are going to charge or what is the, what further
03:56action is going to be taken.
03:57However, when we interviewed our client, our client was so certain and so specific.
04:03He said that he is most likely going to be charged on the 8th of March in the Allostar Magistrates
04:13Court.
04:13So, how is it that my client can tell me so accurately what's going on, but the investigating officer says,
04:23I've just submitted, we don't know anything.
04:26So, we don't know what is the status of the investigation.
04:29We are hoping to get immediate or timely updates.
04:35We did caution the investigating officer not to inform the lawyers on Saturday at 8 of 8pm and then have
04:41them charged in Allostar at the next morning at 9am.
04:46That's not fair.
04:47We have placed ourselves on record and I think that the right thing to do is to give us enough
04:51time to present ourselves, knowing that we are from KL.
04:55Now, with regards to the child, they have conducted investigations.
05:00We are informed that there were items that were confiscated, telephones, laptops.
05:07So, part of the investigation, substantial part of the investigation is done.
05:11So, we tried to inquire as to what are the other investigative investigative procedures that is left to be done,
05:18but we didn't get any proper response from them.
05:21So, at this juncture, we don't know whether they're going to keep them for the entire duration, whether they're even
05:27going to charge.
05:28We don't know and we have not received any confirmation.
05:31And both of them are still studying in school and they intend to complete their SPM this year.
05:38In November this year, my client has specifically told me that he intends to work.
05:44He's got an ambition to be a technician and he wants to work and he's afraid that his education is
05:50going to be affected because of the prolonged detention.
05:54And come on, we must also understand the stigma.
05:57They are children.
05:58If you're arrested for SOSMA today, you think they're going to have a good time in school?
06:01They are not.
06:02What are the enforcement officers thinking?
06:05You know, they are children.
06:06They should be treated as such.
06:08Use the relevant provisions.
06:09We are not saying don't investigate, but there are proper procedures and laws that exist to investigate matters like this.
06:18And matters like this have to be investigated with sensitivity and compassion.
06:22So we plead to the good conscience of Tan Sri IGP, please let's end this today, release them immediately.
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