God & Country (2024)

Tradutores Céticos

GOD & COUNTRY looks at the implications of Christian Nationalism and how it distorts not only our constitutional republic, but Christianity itself. Featuring prominent Christian thought leaders, GOD & COUNTRY asks this question: What happens when a faith built on love, sacrifice, and forgiveness grows political tentacles, conflating power, money, and belief into hyper-nationalism?

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00:05:23IN MY SOUL

00:05:36I was 16, 17 years old

00:05:39when I became a Christian.

00:05:40I wanted to be part of a group.

00:05:44I got pulled in

00:05:45by some friends

00:05:46into a youth ministry

00:05:47at an evangelical church.

00:05:49I grew up going to church

00:05:51dois, três vezes a week.

00:05:53Eu nunca fui em uma igreja e eu estava curioso.

00:05:56Agora eu sou um evangelista.

00:05:59Eu não me lembro de quando eu não fui para a igreja.

00:06:02Eu fui um cristian meu tempo todo.

00:06:06Em a igreja que eu cresço em,

00:06:09havia um cristianismo na parte da pôdia

00:06:11e um americanismo na parte da pôdia.

00:06:15E nós sempre tínhamos especial serviços para o 4 de julho.

00:06:18Então, há essa sensação que

00:06:21a América e a cristianidade

00:06:23são como a baseball e a apple pie,

00:06:26e nós celebramos eles juntos.

00:06:29O que aconteceu em nosso país

00:06:30durante a couple de anos?

00:06:32Evangelismo foi marido com a política de ativismo,

00:06:34principalmente a política de ativismo,

00:06:36e agora, você pode dizer que

00:06:38isso éclipsou a origem da definição,

00:06:41e que evangelismo foi transformado

00:06:42em um movimento cultural e político

00:06:44que as pessoas estão agora dizendo

00:06:46é melhor describedido como cristian nationalism.

00:06:51Eu sou um cristian nationalist.

00:06:53Eu não tenho nada a ser afimado

00:06:54porque isso é o que a maioria dos americanos são.

00:06:57Nós orgulhamos de nossa fé.

00:07:01Cristian nationalism

00:07:02é basicamente a ideia

00:07:04que a América foi fundada

00:07:05como um cristianismo

00:07:07e que a lei deve ser baseada no bíblo.

00:07:09A verdade é isso,

00:07:12a América foi fundada

00:07:14como uma cidadão cristiana.

00:07:16Não cristianos com um cidadão

00:07:18pode dizer,

00:07:19nós apoiemos a liberdade de religião,

00:07:21nós apoiemos a verdade.

00:07:23Nós estamos levando a nossa autoridade,

00:07:25nós estamos levando a país

00:07:26que já é o nosso.

00:07:28E a Bíblia diz que nós estamos levando

00:07:30por força!

00:07:31Isso é o que a Bíblia diz!

00:07:34É não só exclusivamente

00:07:36para o Evangelista.

00:07:37Você vê a lot de Pentecostais envolvidos,

00:07:39você vê a lot de conservadores

00:07:40e Catholics envolvidos

00:07:41em cristian nationalism.

00:07:43Você tem pessoas que não vão para a igreja.

00:07:44É realmente uma identidade

00:07:46ligada a quem os americanos são

00:07:48e quem eles pensam que os americanos são.

00:07:51Deus te abençoe.

00:07:55Deus te abençoe.

00:07:56Deus te abençoe.

00:07:57Deus te abençoe.

00:07:58Deus te abençoe.

00:07:59Deus te abençoe.

00:08:00Deus te abençoe.

00:08:01Deus te abençoe.

00:08:03Deus te abençoe.

00:08:04Deus te abençoe.

00:08:05Deus te abençoe.

00:08:06Deus te abençoe.

00:08:08Deus te abençoe.

00:08:09Deus te abençoe.

00:08:10Deus te abençoe.

00:08:10Eu acho que há muitas maneiras

00:08:11de lidar com a questão de cristian nationalism.

00:08:13Mas, na verdade, basicamente,

00:08:16é a belief que a América

00:08:18tem uma especial,

00:08:19God-ordaindo role

00:08:20em humanidade.

00:08:24Mas, aqui é a grande questão,

00:08:25e é uma grande questão

00:08:27para a América.

00:08:28se eu decidir

00:08:30que a América

00:08:31é irreplaceável

00:08:33em God's história,

00:08:35que a América

00:08:36que apenas a América

00:08:38pode tocar em God's história,

00:08:39e a democracia

00:08:41se derrubar,

00:08:42democracia tem que ir.

00:08:43para a América

00:08:54e a América

00:09:11para a América.

00:09:13para a América

00:09:23para a América

00:09:24para a América

00:09:25para a América.

00:09:28e a América

00:09:29e a América

00:09:29que a América

00:09:29tem que lembre

00:09:30de cristian nationalism

00:09:31é que,

00:09:31após o uso de

00:09:32o word

00:09:32cristian

00:09:33é,

00:09:34é,

00:09:35política

00:09:36é,

00:09:37é,

00:09:38que,

00:09:38é,

00:09:39que,

00:09:53é,

00:10:02é,

00:10:03??

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00:10:12So many conservative-leaning churches have been drawn into these networks

00:10:17where they are essentially being turned into partisan political cells.

00:10:21So what unites this movement is not any sort of distinct theology,

00:10:26but more like a common political vision.

00:10:29I try to be a servant of God.

00:10:31And, by the way, I'm about six weeks away from concluding my service as a state representative

00:10:36and perhaps moving into the Secretary of State role.

00:10:45God bless you. Thank you for listening to me.

00:10:47And let's go Brandon!

00:10:53Christian nationalism, I think, right now is probably the most powerful it has ever been.

00:10:58There's just so much going on under a lot of folks' radar that they're not even really aware of.

00:11:04God bless you guys.

00:11:07Hello, North Carolina!

00:11:12I love you so much, and I love this state.

00:11:15There are, today in America, 20 million more evangelical Christians we can mobilize and get to the polls.

00:11:23And we're going to do it.

00:11:24Christian nationalism in America is well-established, well-organized, and well-funded.

00:11:29And I want to stress that last statement especially.

00:11:32Well-funded.

00:11:34We're talking about organizations that have budgets that run sometimes in the tens of millions, hundreds of millions.

00:11:40Collectively, when you add it all up, you're probably talking about in excess of a billion dollars annually

00:11:44from these Christian nationalist organizations.

00:11:47We put voter guides in thousands of churches.

00:11:50You couldn't get away from us.

00:11:52We were in your text message.

00:11:54We were calling you.

00:11:55We were at the door.

00:11:56We were in your church.

00:11:57And you know what?

00:11:58We didn't stop until you voted.

00:12:00And I don't want to scare anybody here, but we had 147 different data points that we tracked on every

00:12:07one of those voters.

00:12:09Everything from where they live to their voting history to various consumer background on those folks,

00:12:16like what magazines they read, what TV they watched, what kind of car they owned, whether or not they owned

00:12:22a gun.

00:12:23If you were one of these 1.8 million after we contacted you like that, 84% of those people

00:12:30voted a 9% increase in turnout.

00:12:33And they are the reason why North Carolina went red, and they're the reason why it's going to stay red.

00:12:41These really powerful national organizations are driving the agenda.

00:12:48This feminist movement that's infected the minds of young women across the country.

00:12:53Christian nationalists don't like feminism.

00:12:55They want to roll that back.

00:12:57They are appalled at the idea of LGBTQ rights.

00:13:00They want to roll those back.

00:13:01They do not like legal abortion.

00:13:04They want to end that in all 50 states.

00:13:06They do not like the idea that we have a secular public school system.

00:13:10I frankly don't think the Department of Education should exist.

00:13:14They think public schools ought to either be Christianized,

00:13:16or they would move to a system of private schools funded through vouchers.

00:13:21There's a wave of censorship.

00:13:23Critical race theory is state-sponsored racism, and it should be opposed in every school in our land.

00:13:30They don't like that there's material in public libraries that they consider offensive or unbiblical.

00:13:41Christian nationalist ideas are not very popular in the political sphere.

00:13:46So, majorities of people want to protect a woman's right to choose.

00:13:52Majorities of people want gay people to be able to marry.

00:13:55But what's happening is, if white Christian nationalists can't win the popularity battle,

00:14:03can't win the majority of voters, what they're going to do is use the levers of democracy

00:14:10to enshrine minority rule, so that even if they're not a majority in our democracy, in our voting,

00:14:19they can still get their way.

00:14:22This is a movement that represents a minority of the population,

00:14:25but they have disproportionate influence in our politics,

00:14:29precisely because they've got this infrastructure

00:14:32that serves to turn out the vote in disproportionate numbers.

00:14:37In a country where 40 to 50 percent of people don't vote,

00:14:41you don't need a majority to dominate an election cycle.

00:14:45All you need is a disproportionately activated and motivated and organized minority.

00:14:51Out to the place right now, if you vote Democrat,

00:14:53I don't even want you around this church.

00:14:54You can get out.

00:14:55You can get out, you demon.

00:14:58You can get out, you baby butchering election thief.

00:15:02Since there's no prospect that we're going to do anything about gerrymandering,

00:15:06and the Senate is created in such a way

00:15:09as to give massive disproportionate power to rural areas,

00:15:14I think that we are on the precipice

00:15:17of not just having minority rule, but having radical minority rule,

00:15:21by which I mean not only is the minority more radical,

00:15:24but a smaller portion of the electorate will have greater clout.

00:15:28We Christians are standing up,

00:15:31and we are going to impose Christian rule in this country.

00:15:36As a white evangelical, I find that to be a very scary thing,

00:15:39and yet it's happening all across our country.

00:15:47So many Christians are confused by what they're seeing,

00:15:51and they're concerned about the decaying culture,

00:15:53and they're wondering, what are we supposed to do?

00:15:57Ladies and gentlemen, we cannot be silent any longer.

00:16:04The Joe Biden administration is the most evil presidential administration

00:16:10in the history of the United States of America.

00:16:13It's time for Christians to stand up, to push back, to speak out.

00:16:18That is the responsibility of God's people.

00:16:25Socially conservative Christians who oppose abortion

00:16:29and who believe in a traditional understanding of family,

00:16:32that is not, in and of itself, Christian nationalism.

00:16:35For instance, most conservative Christians

00:16:39who are deeply concerned about abortion

00:16:42are because they care about vulnerable human beings.

00:16:46One can agree or disagree with that,

00:16:48but that is an impulse that is rooted in something

00:16:51that I think most people would believe to be good and healthy

00:16:55for a functioning society.

00:16:57That's not the case if what is happening

00:17:00is a valorization of power itself.

00:17:06Whereas we, the church,

00:17:09are God's governing body on the earth,

00:17:12whereas we have been given legal power from heaven

00:17:17and now exercise our authority.

00:17:22I mean, there are people who are quite open

00:17:25about saying that they, yes,

00:17:27they would like to be a theocracy.

00:17:28Yes, they are, you know, post-liberal.

00:17:30This country was founded on Judeo-Christian principles.

00:17:35They don't believe in a multicultural liberal democracy

00:17:39in which you have a variety of lifestyles.

00:17:42They actually say, screw that.

00:17:44This is our turn to impose our values

00:17:47on the rest of the country.

00:17:48This is not a movement about Christian values.

00:17:50This is a movement about Christian power.

00:17:53Raw rank power.

00:17:56We decree that the blood of Jesus

00:17:59covers and protects our nation.

00:18:02What happens to atheists in this society?

00:18:04What happens to secular people?

00:18:05What happens to the people

00:18:06who don't believe this stuff?

00:18:08We decree that America shall be saved!

00:18:15So I think that where we're going

00:18:17is a very dangerous place.

00:18:19I think we are about to find out

00:18:21how big a threat it is.

00:18:23God wants America to be saved.

00:18:27And we're calling for new politicians to rise up,

00:18:31new school board members, new legislators.

00:18:35It's very easy to see this

00:18:37as something that is outside of government.

00:18:41It's not in power.

00:18:43That could all change very quickly.

00:18:44Our definition of what would never happen

00:18:47keeps getting pushed out

00:18:49into more extreme places.

00:18:51USA! USA! USA! USA! USA!

00:18:57The thing that keeps me up at night

00:18:59is that we lose democracy

00:19:00and that this country slides

00:19:01into a theocratic nation.

00:19:03Does that seem possible?

00:19:06Yes.

00:19:07It's possible.

00:19:09It's absolutely possible.

00:19:10We're closer to it now

00:19:12than we ever have been before.

00:19:13America is on a precipice

00:19:15and I personally don't know

00:19:19if we're going to stop ourselves

00:19:21from going over the other side.

00:19:27Is Christian nationalism Christian?

00:19:31Is Christian nationalism Christian?

00:19:33Isn't that cool?

00:19:35That's a great question.

00:19:36Um, no, it isn't.

00:19:39It's not biblical.

00:19:40It's not Christianity.

00:19:41It's a perversion

00:19:42of the Christian message.

00:19:45Being a Christian

00:19:46is about the values of inclusion,

00:19:51working for the needs

00:19:52of the marginalized,

00:19:54peace building.

00:19:57Christian nationalism

00:19:58is certainly not based

00:19:59on the values of the gospel.

00:20:02Our ethos says,

00:20:04love your enemies.

00:20:04Our ethos says,

00:20:05bless those who persecute you.

00:20:07Our ethos is act justly,

00:20:09love kindness,

00:20:10walk humbly.

00:20:11This should be our time.

00:20:13We should be blazing forth

00:20:14as a countercultural example.

00:20:16And instead,

00:20:16we're leading the charge often

00:20:18of malice and cruelty

00:20:21and division and partisanship.

00:20:23And that is grievous.

00:20:25There's no way

00:20:26you can look at Jesus

00:20:27in the gospel

00:20:28and put him on the side

00:20:30of greed,

00:20:31on the side of injustice,

00:20:33on the side of wrong.

00:20:34and oftentimes

00:20:35what you end up with

00:20:37is people who are so loud

00:20:41about what God says

00:20:42so little about

00:20:43and so quiet about

00:20:45what God says

00:20:46so much about.

00:20:48So they're so loud

00:20:50against gay people.

00:20:52They're so loud

00:20:53against a woman's right

00:20:55to have an abortion.

00:20:56They're so loud

00:20:58in cutting taxes

00:20:59for the wealthy.

00:21:00They're so loud

00:21:01when it comes to guns.

00:21:05They're so loud

00:21:06on those things.

00:21:07But they're so quiet

00:21:08on how do we end poverty?

00:21:12How do we care

00:21:13for the least of these?

00:21:16You're in essence

00:21:17being loud

00:21:18about what God says

00:21:19so little.

00:21:21And you're being

00:21:22far too quiet

00:21:23about what God says

00:21:24so much about.

00:21:37I view the United States

00:21:38and its government

00:21:39under the values of God.

00:21:41God's law first.

00:21:43I believe that we were

00:21:44founded as a Christian nation.

00:21:46I believe that we should

00:21:46be a Christian nation.

00:21:47It's literally

00:21:48in our constitution.

00:21:49We are a Christian nation.

00:21:51Our entire founding

00:21:52is based on those

00:21:53of Christian values.

00:21:56I do not believe

00:21:57in the separation

00:21:58of church and state.

00:21:59You cannot take God

00:22:01out of anything.

00:22:03We're one nation

00:22:04under God.

00:22:05And if we can't be

00:22:06a Christian nation

00:22:07the light into the world

00:22:08then the evil will reign.

00:22:11Darkness will reign.

00:22:15One of the things

00:22:16that I kind of specialize in

00:22:17is the myths

00:22:18and disinformation

00:22:20that make up

00:22:22the Christian nationalist

00:22:23identity.

00:22:24It's things like

00:22:25the founding fathers

00:22:26prayed at the

00:22:26Constitutional Convention

00:22:27and that our laws

00:22:28are based on

00:22:29the Ten Commandments

00:22:30and that George Washington

00:22:31knelt in the snow

00:22:31at Valley Forge

00:22:32and prayed.

00:22:33None of that is true

00:22:34but it's accepted gospel

00:22:36and these are the

00:22:37talking points

00:22:38and the dog whistles

00:22:39that Christian nationalists

00:22:40can use to communicate

00:22:41with each other.

00:22:44If we are going to have

00:22:45one nation under God

00:22:46which we must

00:22:47we have to have

00:22:48one religion

00:22:49one nation under God

00:22:50and one religion under God.

00:22:53Christian nationalists say

00:22:54we really were founded

00:22:56as a Christian nation

00:22:56because in God we trust

00:22:58because so help me God

00:22:59because we have

00:23:00a national day of prayer.

00:23:02But actually

00:23:03we've seen waves

00:23:04of Christian nationalism

00:23:06throughout American history.

00:23:10In the 1950s

00:23:11we had under God

00:23:12added to the pledge

00:23:13in God we trust

00:23:14adopted as the motto.

00:23:17a prayer room

00:23:18put in the capitol

00:23:20a national day of prayer

00:23:22imposed

00:23:23during the civil war

00:23:24we saw

00:23:25in God we trust

00:23:26added to our coins

00:23:28and all of these artifacts

00:23:30then become ways

00:23:33to justify future

00:23:35waves of Christian nationalism.

00:23:38We have to think

00:23:39of ourselves

00:23:40as pilgrims.

00:23:42It was their children

00:23:44and their children's children

00:23:46that gave birth

00:23:47to America.

00:23:49When the pilgrims

00:23:50and the Puritans

00:23:51came over

00:23:51they established

00:23:52their tiny little theocracies

00:23:54and suffocated

00:23:55everybody's religious freedom

00:23:56you have to believe

00:23:57you have to act like this

00:23:59they imposed

00:24:01theocratic law

00:24:03and were essentially

00:24:04failed societies.

00:24:07And when the founders

00:24:08got together

00:24:08and were looking at

00:24:09how are we going to create

00:24:10the U.S. Constitution

00:24:11they looked back at that

00:24:12and they said

00:24:13we are

00:24:14we don't want any part of that

00:24:15that's the wrong way

00:24:16to do things.

00:24:16The church

00:24:18is supposed

00:24:19to direct

00:24:20the government

00:24:21the government

00:24:21is not supposed

00:24:23to direct

00:24:23the church

00:24:24that is not

00:24:25how our founding fathers

00:24:26intended it

00:24:27and I'm tired

00:24:28of this separation

00:24:29of church and state junk

00:24:30that's not in the Constitution

00:24:31it was in a stinking letter

00:24:33and it means nothing

00:24:34like what they say

00:24:35it does.

00:24:44If you look

00:24:45at the Constitution

00:24:46the really unique

00:24:48contributions

00:24:48are secular

00:24:49the founders

00:24:51when they were writing

00:24:52the Constitution

00:24:53in Philadelphia

00:24:53they didn't invoke

00:24:55the Bible

00:24:56they didn't turn

00:24:57to religious principles

00:24:58and we know this

00:25:00because we have the records

00:25:01it's very very clear

00:25:02it was secular

00:25:03by design

00:25:04by choice

00:25:04in fact that actually

00:25:05pissed people off

00:25:06at the time

00:25:07it begins

00:25:08we the people

00:25:10our Constitution

00:25:11was the first

00:25:11to do that

00:25:12it was the first

00:25:12to draw power

00:25:13from the people

00:25:14and not a deity

00:25:15no other country

00:25:16had done that before

00:25:17it was the first

00:25:18in the history

00:25:19of the world

00:25:20to ban religious tests

00:25:21for public office

00:25:22and it did so

00:25:24in language

00:25:24that was very clear

00:25:26and emphatic

00:25:27it says

00:25:27no religious test

00:25:29shall ever be required

00:25:30of any office

00:25:31or public trust

00:25:32under the United States

00:25:34and even all of that

00:25:36was not enough

00:25:37for the founders

00:25:37so that's just

00:25:38the original document

00:25:39then later on

00:25:39they came along

00:25:40and said

00:25:40we're actually

00:25:40going to amend this

00:25:41and we're going to

00:25:42add in more protections

00:25:44and so then you get

00:25:45the first amendment

00:25:45Congress shall make

00:25:46no law respecting

00:25:48an establishment

00:25:48of religion

00:25:49or prohibiting

00:25:50the free exercise

00:25:51thereof

00:25:53and in that

00:25:54you have

00:25:55the founders

00:25:56separating

00:25:56state and church

00:25:58in an effort

00:25:59partly to protect

00:26:00religious freedom

00:26:01they understood

00:26:02that there's

00:26:03really

00:26:03it's impossible

00:26:05to have true

00:26:06religious freedom

00:26:07without a secular

00:26:08government

00:26:08there is no freedom

00:26:09of religion

00:26:10without a government

00:26:10that is free

00:26:11from religion

00:26:14is the United States

00:26:15a Christian nation

00:26:16in the sense

00:26:17that we have

00:26:17a lot of Christians

00:26:18here?

00:26:18Sure

00:26:18is the United States

00:26:20a Christian nation

00:26:21in the sense

00:26:22that Christianity

00:26:23influenced our culture?

00:26:24Sure

00:26:24was the United States

00:26:26our government

00:26:28our constitution

00:26:28our laws

00:26:29founded on

00:26:30Christian

00:26:31or Judeo-Christian

00:26:32principles

00:26:33the answer to that

00:26:34is no

00:26:35absolutely not

00:26:54through different

00:26:55eras of the U.S.

00:26:56around times

00:26:57of social upheaval

00:26:58when we're trying

00:26:59to figure out

00:27:00who are we

00:27:00what are we about

00:27:01we see that

00:27:03Christian nationalism

00:27:04is going to tell

00:27:05religiously

00:27:05politically

00:27:06conservative Americans

00:27:07we need to return

00:27:08to these moral roots

00:27:10to be the greatest

00:27:11country in the world

00:27:12again

00:27:12and if we don't

00:27:13we're going to

00:27:15fall away

00:27:23we pray for some young people

00:27:25who are caught up

00:27:25in the things

00:27:26of the world

00:27:26hooked on drugs

00:27:27and liquor

00:27:28and sin

00:27:29and immorality

00:27:30help us today

00:27:31to get the message

00:27:32of God's love

00:27:34so clearly

00:27:35to them

00:27:35in the 1970s

00:27:37preachers like

00:27:38Jerry Falwell

00:27:38began arguing

00:27:40that the answer

00:27:40to the problems

00:27:41we're having

00:27:41in society

00:27:42what they consider

00:27:43to be problems

00:27:43could be found

00:27:45through politics

00:27:46thousands of ladies

00:27:48were marching

00:27:48in Los Angeles

00:27:49and New York

00:27:50for their rights

00:27:52ERA

00:27:54all the rights

00:27:55any dear lady

00:27:56needs

00:27:57is the right

00:27:58to be married

00:27:59to a godly husband

00:28:00who is under

00:28:01the lordship

00:28:02of Jesus Christ

00:28:03Jerry Falwell

00:28:04is a pastor

00:28:06at Thomas Road

00:28:07Baptist Church

00:28:08a church in Virginia

00:28:09he's on the radio

00:28:11and he's on television

00:28:12he's reaching

00:28:13and influencing

00:28:14conservative Christians

00:28:15across the country

00:28:17and so he founds

00:28:19the moral majority

00:28:19it's a political

00:28:21action committee

00:28:21registered as such

00:28:23just like those

00:28:23of labor unions

00:28:24or any other organization

00:28:25and he ends up

00:28:28really playing

00:28:29a critical role

00:28:30in binding together

00:28:32conservative Christianity

00:28:34with this

00:28:35kind of newly

00:28:36crystallized

00:28:38political vision

00:28:39particularly around

00:28:41the issue of abortion

00:28:42abortion is a moral issue

00:28:45it is a theological issue

00:28:46it is a human rights issue

00:28:49an issue that concerns

00:28:50the human rights

00:28:51of unborn babies

00:28:52who by the hundreds

00:28:54of thousands

00:28:55are being murdered

00:28:57from the perspective

00:28:59of the 21st century

00:29:00when we look at

00:29:01the religious right

00:29:03as a political block

00:29:04it looks like

00:29:05they mobilized

00:29:07around the issue

00:29:08of abortion

00:29:08and overturning

00:29:10Roe v. Wade

00:29:12when you look

00:29:12at the historical record

00:29:14however

00:29:15when Roe v. Wade

00:29:16first passed

00:29:17in 1973

00:29:18white evangelicals

00:29:19had a mix of responses

00:29:22basically a lot

00:29:23of the responses

00:29:23were

00:29:24it's the law

00:29:24of the land

00:29:25follow the law

00:29:27a lot of people

00:29:28think the movement

00:29:29was born

00:29:30in response

00:29:31to Roe v. Wade

00:29:32because movement leaders

00:29:33want them to think that

00:29:35and have promoted

00:29:36this idea

00:29:37but the reality

00:29:38is a lot more complicated

00:29:39and frankly

00:29:40a lot uglier

00:29:43what really catalyzed

00:29:45the religious right

00:29:46in the early

00:29:47to mid 1970s

00:29:49was the so-called

00:29:52right of private

00:29:53Christian schools

00:29:54to maintain

00:29:55racially segregated

00:29:57institutions

00:29:57Roe v. Wade

00:29:59became a convenient

00:30:02chosen wedge issue

00:30:04but really

00:30:06modern Christian nationalism

00:30:08was born

00:30:08out of the fight

00:30:10to desegregate schools

00:30:14did you like it

00:30:15at school today

00:30:16yeah

00:30:17what difference

00:30:18was there

00:30:18in going to

00:30:20Hoffman Boston school

00:30:22well school

00:30:23was bigger

00:30:24it used to get lost

00:30:26then

00:30:26did you feel

00:30:27as if you're

00:30:28going to like it there

00:30:29yeah

00:30:33Brown v. Board

00:30:34legislating

00:30:35that schools

00:30:36had to desegregate

00:30:36was passed

00:30:37in 1954

00:30:38and many people

00:30:40were up in arms

00:30:43regardless of what

00:30:44they've decided

00:30:45we will have

00:30:46segregated schools

00:30:48and are you going

00:30:49back to school

00:30:50no sir

00:30:50and why did you

00:30:51come out of school

00:30:52because I'm not

00:30:52going to school

00:30:53with n****

00:30:53uh-huh

00:30:54and do you feel

00:30:55that the majority

00:30:56agree with you

00:30:57or with the

00:30:58the majority

00:30:59of people here

00:31:00in Arkansas

00:31:00agree with me

00:31:01uh-huh

00:31:02well what are you

00:31:02going to do

00:31:02for an education

00:31:03well St. Mary's

00:31:04isn't integrated

00:31:05we can go there

00:31:06we can go to

00:31:07a private school

00:31:09many Christians

00:31:11and Evangelicals

00:31:12in particular

00:31:13thought they

00:31:14could keep

00:31:14religious schools

00:31:15segregated

00:31:16and not have

00:31:17to listen

00:31:17to the government

00:31:21one particular

00:31:23example

00:31:23is with

00:31:24Bob Jones University

00:31:25Bob Jones University

00:31:27was started

00:31:28by Bob Jones Senior

00:31:29he was this

00:31:31famous preacher

00:31:32and evangelist

00:31:33and segregationist

00:31:37so Bob Jones University

00:31:38was a segregated school

00:31:41didn't allow black

00:31:42people at all

00:31:44then you get a series

00:31:45of court cases

00:31:46in the 1970s

00:31:47where the federal

00:31:49government said

00:31:50no you can't do that

00:31:51that's a violation

00:31:52of constitutional rights

00:31:54it's a violation

00:31:55of civil rights

00:31:56and if you maintain

00:31:57this stance

00:31:59on racial segregation

00:32:00you will lose

00:32:01your tax exempt status

00:32:03you lose your tax exempt

00:32:05status

00:32:05which means

00:32:05you have to pay

00:32:06more money

00:32:07and it was the

00:32:08combination of those

00:32:09two

00:32:09race and money

00:32:11that got many church

00:32:12leaders

00:32:13into politics

00:32:14it's time for God's people

00:32:17to come out of the closet

00:32:18out of the churches

00:32:19and change America

00:32:21we must do it

00:32:27this is what pulled the

00:32:28religious right together

00:32:29it was essentially saying

00:32:31if the federal government

00:32:32is going to tell us

00:32:33how we can run

00:32:34our private

00:32:35essentially segregation

00:32:36academies

00:32:37we need to be afraid

00:32:38that they could come

00:32:39after us

00:32:40in any other sphere

00:32:41of life

00:32:42and so it was really

00:32:43around race

00:32:44that we see

00:32:45the religious right

00:32:46pull together

00:32:48the new right leaders

00:32:50were looking for an issue

00:32:51to organize

00:32:53stop the tax on segregation

00:32:55this wasn't going to be

00:32:56an effective rallying cry

00:32:57for their new movement

00:32:58it was just so ugly

00:33:01so they looked at things

00:33:02like school prayer

00:33:03the women's movement

00:33:04communism

00:33:05and the gay rights movement

00:33:07but abortion

00:33:08turned out to be

00:33:10a great issue for them

00:33:11because they were able

00:33:12to unite disparate elements

00:33:14of the rank and file

00:33:15the bible doesn't say

00:33:16a word about abortion

00:33:19for me as a catholic sister

00:33:22I think it should not be

00:33:25in the public square

00:33:26but it has been

00:33:27an effective political

00:33:30way of raising money

00:33:31and controlling an electorate

00:33:34how many of our christians

00:33:36have what I call

00:33:38the goo goo syndrome

00:33:39good government

00:33:40they want everybody to vote

00:33:44I don't want everybody to vote

00:33:46elections are not won

00:33:48by a majority of people

00:33:49they never have been

00:33:50from the beginning

00:33:51of our country

00:33:52and they are not now

00:33:53as a matter of fact

00:33:54our leverage in the elections

00:33:55quite candidly goes up

00:33:57as the voting populace

00:33:58goes down

00:34:00behind the scenes

00:34:01there were people

00:34:01like Paul Weirich

00:34:02conservative strategist

00:34:04who were looking to take

00:34:05the kind of

00:34:06small government

00:34:07low tax

00:34:09libertarian wing

00:34:10of the republican party

00:34:11and juice it up

00:34:12with conservative evangelicals

00:34:15whose main concern

00:34:16was social issues

00:34:17I call again on congress

00:34:20to pass a constitutional amendment

00:34:22restoring voluntary prayer

00:34:25to our classrooms

00:34:27it was a coalition

00:34:29it was coalition politics

00:34:30and you had your chamber

00:34:31of commerce conservatives

00:34:33you had your neoconservatives

00:34:34you had people who were

00:34:35focused on foreign policy

00:34:37the Reagan conservatives

00:34:38and then you had

00:34:39the moral majority

00:34:40Christian right

00:34:41and they were

00:34:42an important and valuable

00:34:43part of this coalition

00:34:45but they were not

00:34:46the dominant part

00:34:47of the coalition

00:34:48in terms of the abortion issue

00:34:50I am pro-life

00:34:51but no question

00:34:52that we ought to ban

00:34:53partial birth abortions

00:34:54in America today

00:34:55and no question

00:34:57in retrospect

00:34:58I think part of the problem

00:34:59was there was this culture

00:35:01of republicans

00:35:02who over promised

00:35:03and then under delivered

00:35:08by the early years

00:35:09of the 21st century

00:35:10a lot of conservative

00:35:12Christians had this sense

00:35:14that the politicians

00:35:15weren't really coming through

00:35:16for them

00:35:17they believed

00:35:18that they were owed more

00:35:20you were crushed

00:35:21and you see that

00:35:22in the Tea Party movement

00:35:23this kind of insurgency

00:35:25the idea that

00:35:27you know

00:35:27democrats and republicans

00:35:29aren't all that different

00:35:30and you can't really

00:35:32trust them

00:35:32my kingdom come

00:35:34you have to take

00:35:35the power back

00:35:36my will be done

00:35:37and give the power

00:35:38to the people

00:35:39and then force your agenda

00:35:50evangelicals said

00:35:51with 40 years

00:35:53we tried to get this done

00:35:54the nice way

00:35:55and we're not going

00:35:56to do that any longer

00:36:00it's no more

00:36:02Mr. Nice Guy

00:36:03it's now time for us

00:36:04to really start to fight

00:36:09ladies and gentlemen

00:36:11thank you

00:36:13I am officially running

00:36:18for president

00:36:19of the United States

00:36:21and we are going to make

00:36:24our country great again

00:36:30when I was a young

00:36:31evangelical minister

00:36:32we used Donald Trump

00:36:35as a sermon illustration

00:36:37for everything

00:36:38a Christian should not be

00:36:40we're going to protect

00:36:42Christianity

00:36:43two Corinthians right

00:36:46initially among church

00:36:48going evangelicals

00:36:49Trump's support

00:36:50was not very strong

00:36:51many Christians

00:36:53saw Trump

00:36:54as deeply flawed

00:36:56you know

00:36:57I'm a true believer

00:36:58is everybody

00:36:59a true believer

00:37:00in this room

00:37:03Christianity

00:37:04is under tremendous siege

00:37:06but you know

00:37:07the fact is

00:37:08that there's nothing

00:37:09the politicians

00:37:10can do to you

00:37:11if you band together

00:37:12you have too much power

00:37:13but the Christians

00:37:14don't use their power

00:37:16they don't need your

00:37:17they don't use your power

00:37:18and honestly

00:37:20you have

00:37:20by far

00:37:21it's the strongest

00:37:22I mean you talk

00:37:22about lobbies

00:37:23you have the strongest

00:37:24lobby ever

00:37:25but I never hear

00:37:26about a Christian lobby

00:37:27thank you everybody

00:37:31before the 2016 election

00:37:33he invited

00:37:34evangelical leaders

00:37:35to come to New York

00:37:38and I was invited

00:37:39I declined

00:37:40but a lot of my friends

00:37:42were there

00:37:44and the reports

00:37:46I got out

00:37:47by text

00:37:48you know

00:37:48people who were

00:37:49literally texting me

00:37:50in real time

00:37:50from the meeting

00:37:51saying

00:37:52this is our guy

00:37:53this is the guy

00:37:55who's going to get it done

00:37:56we may not like him

00:37:59but it looks like

00:38:00he's God's man

00:38:01Donald Trump today

00:38:03came and had a conversation

00:38:04now we don't agree

00:38:05on everything

00:38:06but one thing he did

00:38:08he acknowledged

00:38:09the concerns

00:38:10that evangelicals have

00:38:11and he affirmed

00:38:12those concerns

00:38:13and he has said

00:38:14it won't happen

00:38:15when I'm president

00:38:17when Trump gave a list

00:38:19of potential

00:38:19supreme court nominees

00:38:21that was reassuring

00:38:24to many evangelical leaders

00:38:27who are deeply concerned

00:38:28about abortion

00:38:29they started to believe

00:38:32that they would have

00:38:33influence

00:38:34in a trump white house

00:38:36appointing a supreme court justice

00:38:38that would overturn Roe v. Wade

00:38:40do I have it?

00:38:41I will appoint judges

00:38:42that will be pro-life

00:38:44by the time I got

00:38:46to the Republican National Convention

00:38:48in Cleveland

00:38:49when Trump would be declared

00:38:52the official RNC candidate

00:38:54for president

00:38:55my colleagues were telling me

00:38:57that he was ordained

00:39:00by God

00:39:01to lead the country

00:39:03that was a far cry

00:39:05from the sermon illustration

00:39:08we used to use

00:39:09but it spoke to how much

00:39:12American evangelicals

00:39:14had really abandoned

00:39:15our core principles

00:39:19and really made an exchange

00:39:22we were now all about

00:39:24exercising political power

00:39:27friends

00:39:29delegates

00:39:31and fellow Americans

00:39:34I humbly

00:39:36and gratefully

00:39:38accept

00:39:38your nomination

00:39:40for the presidency

00:39:42of the United States

00:40:05in 2016

00:40:06we looked at the exit polls

00:40:08and it came back

00:40:10that 81%

00:40:12of white evangelicals

00:40:13pulled the lever

00:40:14for Donald Trump

00:40:17that was a record

00:40:20that's more white evangelicals

00:40:22than voted for George W. Bush

00:40:24who was a white evangelical

00:40:26he could not have been elected

00:40:28without 81%

00:40:29of white evangelical support

00:40:30he might not have been elected

00:40:32at 80%

00:40:33he needed to squeeze

00:40:34every last drop

00:40:36out of the evangelical base

00:40:38and he did

00:40:41Donald Trump

00:40:42fits all the marks

00:40:43of a televangelist

00:40:45right down to the crazy hair

00:40:48he's this larger than life ego

00:40:50who promises you the world

00:40:52no one can fix it but me

00:40:54I can solve all the problems

00:40:55I'll drain the swamp

00:40:56I'll build the wall

00:40:58and he flies around

00:40:59in a private jet

00:41:00he's got gilded toilets

00:41:02and everything else

00:41:03he is a televangelist

00:41:05but instead of preaching gospel

00:41:07he's preaching Christian nationalism

00:41:09he's preaching this

00:41:10America first

00:41:11make America great again gospel

00:41:13which a lot of people

00:41:14were ready to hear

00:41:15as a Christian

00:41:17I was surprised

00:41:18to see so many Christians

00:41:20just fall in line

00:41:22behind

00:41:22a man who

00:41:24has had multiple affairs

00:41:26who will cheat

00:41:27and lie

00:41:28and steal

00:41:29to get his way

00:41:30he is the sort of

00:41:32incarnation

00:41:32of the seven deadly sins

00:41:34he is about as

00:41:35you know

00:41:36far from

00:41:37Jesus

00:41:39as a person

00:41:40could possibly be

00:41:45and yet

00:41:4681% of white evangelicals

00:41:49voted for him

00:41:51you cannot forget

00:41:52the white part

00:41:55we are moving

00:41:56very rapidly

00:41:57towards becoming

00:41:58the very first nation state

00:41:59in the world

00:42:00to be majority minorities

00:42:03and that

00:42:04for a lot of people

00:42:04is a cause for celebration

00:42:06as it should be

00:42:07it's truly extraordinary

00:42:09when you think about it

00:42:10but for others

00:42:12scares the shit out of them

00:42:14get the hell out of my country

00:42:18my country

00:42:19the more that Americans

00:42:21embrace Christian nationalism

00:42:22we find over and over

00:42:24that they're much more likely

00:42:26to hold racist values

00:42:27and beliefs

00:42:31in our survey research

00:42:32we find that

00:42:34they're more uncomfortable

00:42:35with racial integration

00:42:37and more likely to view

00:42:39racial minorities

00:42:40as somehow less American

00:42:43when they see and believe

00:42:45and think about

00:42:46who the ideal American is

00:42:47they really do envision

00:42:49a white America

00:42:51I did not grow up a Christian

00:42:54but I became a Christian

00:42:55in high school

00:42:56in a white evangelical context

00:42:59and so there's always been

00:43:01these questions

00:43:01around race

00:43:03and religion

00:43:04for me

00:43:05I am in

00:43:07white evangelical spaces

00:43:08I'm in their seminaries

00:43:10I'm in their churches

00:43:11I'm in their denominations

00:43:12I'm trying to be part of

00:43:16moving the ball forward

00:43:17on these issues

00:43:18only to turn around

00:43:20and see those election results

00:43:23what that 81% number said

00:43:26was

00:43:26all of my concerns

00:43:29all of the issues

00:43:31that are pertinent to me

00:43:32because of our racialized society

00:43:35those fell on deaf ears

00:43:37it really

00:43:39didn't matter much

00:43:40when it came

00:43:41to actually

00:43:42pulling the lever

00:43:44to vote for someone

00:43:45it was

00:43:47completely

00:43:47confounding to me

00:43:49that

00:43:50other Christians

00:43:51would proudly

00:43:52support

00:43:53a man who

00:43:54plays on racist

00:43:55tropes

00:43:56that

00:43:58this man

00:43:59would be their champion

00:44:03and it felt

00:44:04like a betrayal

00:44:12around 2018

00:44:132019

00:44:14I'm sitting in church

00:44:15you know

00:44:15we'd have about

00:44:16a half hour time

00:44:17between Sunday morning

00:44:18worship and Sunday school

00:44:19and this sweetest lady

00:44:21the sweetest lady

00:44:22comes up

00:44:22and she's like

00:44:23David

00:44:24why don't you

00:44:25like our president

00:44:27and

00:44:28there are a lot of things

00:44:29but I

00:44:30sometimes

00:44:31especially when I was

00:44:32talking with somebody

00:44:32who I knew

00:44:33wasn't that engaged

00:44:34in politics

00:44:35I would just say

00:44:36one or two things

00:44:37and I'd say

00:44:37you know

00:44:37I just wish

00:44:39our presidents lied less

00:44:42and she looked at me

00:44:43and she said

00:44:44Donald Trump

00:44:46lies

00:44:48you know

00:44:49at that point

00:44:50what do you say

00:44:53she was so immersed

00:44:55in that cocoon

00:44:55she couldn't see

00:44:56the man for who he was

00:45:00and

00:45:01you know

00:45:02all kinds of people

00:45:03asked me to explain

00:45:04MAGA

00:45:04Christianity

00:45:06and I've said

00:45:07to a lot of folks

00:45:08if you were

00:45:09immersed in the world

00:45:10they're immersed in

00:45:11you'd be wearing

00:45:12the red hat

00:45:13also

00:45:16I grew up

00:45:17as a Christian

00:45:18I

00:45:19attended a Christian

00:45:21school

00:45:21all through childhood

00:45:23and

00:45:24it was

00:45:25fairly isolated

00:45:26from popular culture

00:45:28I mean

00:45:29I grew up

00:45:30only listening

00:45:31to Christian music

00:45:32I thought

00:45:33that secular music

00:45:34was sinful

00:45:38I'm still

00:45:39pretty

00:45:40ignorant

00:45:41of a whole lot

00:45:42of popular culture

00:45:43anything that went down

00:45:44in the 1980s

00:45:45and 1990s

00:45:46there's a good chance

00:45:47that I missed it

00:45:50it was possible

00:45:51to be

00:45:52almost completely

00:45:53immersed

00:45:54in this separate

00:45:55Christian subculture

00:46:01Christian media

00:46:02is

00:46:03a massive

00:46:04industry

00:46:05that is

00:46:06almost completely

00:46:07invisible

00:46:07to

00:46:08most Americans

00:46:10TBN

00:46:12biggest Christian

00:46:13TV network

00:46:14is one of the

00:46:15largest station groups

00:46:16in the world

00:46:17in terms of

00:46:17number of stations

00:46:18Salem

00:46:19and Caleb

00:46:20are among the

00:46:22largest radio station

00:46:23groups

00:46:23in the world

00:46:24if you are

00:46:25a good church

00:46:26going Christian

00:46:27and you go

00:46:27twice a month

00:46:28that means

00:46:28you're maybe

00:46:29hearing

00:46:2930 to 60 minutes

00:46:31of Bible teaching

00:46:32from your local

00:46:32church

00:46:33a month

00:46:34but you're

00:46:35probably marinating

00:46:36in hours

00:46:37and hours

00:46:38and hours

00:46:38of Christian radio

00:46:40Christian television

00:46:41Christian websites

00:46:42and podcasts

00:46:44that's what's

00:46:45shaping a lot

00:46:45of people's faith

00:46:47very little of it

00:46:48is explicitly

00:46:49political

00:46:50but it

00:46:51shapes a community

00:46:52it shapes

00:46:53a sense of

00:46:54identity

00:46:54and

00:46:55and

00:46:55when it does

00:46:56turn political

00:46:57it is

00:46:59according to

00:47:00one

00:47:01playbook

00:47:02it is a

00:47:03conservative

00:47:04republican

00:47:04agenda

00:47:05I'm Alex Clark

00:47:07and this

00:47:08is Poplitics

00:47:10if your state

00:47:11decides to make

00:47:11abortion illegal

00:47:12these mega

00:47:13corporations

00:47:13want to help

00:47:14you kill

00:47:15your baby

00:47:15anyways

00:47:16yeah this

00:47:16sounds like

00:47:17a work trip

00:47:17from hell

00:47:18the expense

00:47:18report would

00:47:19literally read

00:47:19work coffee

00:47:20work lunch

00:47:21murder

00:47:22so evil

00:47:23to borrow

00:47:23a term

00:47:24you know

00:47:24you'll hear

00:47:25in a lot

00:47:25of churches

00:47:25they're discipling

00:47:27Americans

00:47:27to see the world

00:47:28in a particular

00:47:29way

00:47:29they're helping

00:47:30them say

00:47:31hey this is

00:47:32what happened

00:47:33and this is

00:47:33how you can

00:47:34interpret

00:47:34what happened

00:47:35through this

00:47:35cultural framework

00:47:36of Christian

00:47:36nationalism

00:47:38the founding

00:47:39fathers

00:47:40always believed

00:47:41that Christians

00:47:42deserved

00:47:43to be

00:47:44counselors

00:47:44to the king

00:47:45not deserved

00:47:46they needed

00:47:47to be

00:47:47counselors

00:47:47to the king

00:47:48the people

00:47:49whispering

00:47:49in the ear

00:47:50of the leaders

00:47:50counseling

00:47:52them

00:47:52do this

00:47:53and don't

00:47:53do that

00:47:54conservative

00:47:55talk

00:47:55often is

00:47:56better for

00:47:57the ratings

00:47:58than Christian

00:47:59preaching

00:47:59so there's

00:48:00been an

00:48:00intermingling

00:48:01of conservative

00:48:02talk

00:48:02and Christian

00:48:03preaching

00:48:04that for

00:48:05a certain

00:48:05amount

00:48:06of the audience

00:48:06they can't

00:48:07tell the

00:48:07difference

00:48:07anymore

00:48:08what is

00:48:08conservative

00:48:09versus

00:48:09what is

00:48:10Christian

00:48:11this idea

00:48:12of the

00:48:13separation

00:48:13of church

00:48:14and state

00:48:14still seems

00:48:15to come up

00:48:15even though

00:48:16it's not

00:48:16in the

00:48:16constitution

00:48:17it's not

00:48:17in the

00:48:17bill of

00:48:18rights

00:48:18no

00:48:18it's not

00:48:19in any

00:48:19of those

00:48:19foundational

00:48:20documents

00:48:21the majority

00:48:22of conservative

00:48:23Christians

00:48:24are not

00:48:24extreme

00:48:25Christian

00:48:25nationalists

00:48:26but it

00:48:28makes

00:48:28great

00:48:28television

00:48:30we are

00:48:30running

00:48:30straight

00:48:31at

00:48:31satan

00:48:32both

00:48:32swords

00:48:32drawn

00:48:33and it's

00:48:34fringe

00:48:34voices

00:48:34that tend

00:48:35to do

00:48:35best

00:48:35on media

00:48:36because

00:48:37they say

00:48:37outrageous

00:48:37things

00:48:38the gender

00:48:39wage gap

00:48:40is a lie

00:48:40that a man

00:48:41can become

00:48:41a woman

00:48:42is a lie

00:48:42that a baby

00:48:43in the womb

00:48:44is just a

00:48:44clump of cells

00:48:44is a lie

00:48:45that the rich

00:48:46don't pay

00:48:47any taxes

00:48:47outrage

00:48:48is shaping

00:48:49millions of

00:48:50American

00:48:50Christians

00:48:51more than

00:48:52church

00:48:53and that's

00:48:54a problem

00:48:54they're told

00:48:55over and over

00:48:56and over again

00:48:56that you're in

00:48:58danger

00:48:58and you need

00:48:59to be more

00:48:59afraid

00:49:00the enemy

00:49:00is wokeism

00:49:02it's CRT

00:49:02it's liberals

00:49:03it's all these

00:49:04things that are

00:49:05dismantling America

00:49:05and it's a really

00:49:06clear narrative

00:49:07join us

00:49:08and you'll have

00:49:09purpose

00:49:09and here's your

00:49:10enemy

00:49:10here's what I've

00:49:11been telling folks

00:49:12pray for our

00:49:13enemies

00:49:13okay

00:49:14pray for

00:49:15because we're

00:49:15going medieval

00:49:16on these people

00:49:17the church is just

00:49:18being outflanked

00:49:19by better

00:49:20storytellers

00:49:21and there are

00:49:22media figures out

00:49:24there who know

00:49:25exactly what

00:49:25they're doing

00:49:26they are lying

00:49:27and manipulating

00:49:28and stoking

00:49:29the fears of

00:49:30these people

00:49:30using religious

00:49:31rhetoric to make

00:49:32a lot of money

00:49:34I want Jesus

00:49:35to come

00:49:35the reason why

00:49:36Jesus hadn't come

00:49:38is because people

00:49:38are not giving

00:49:39the way God

00:49:39told them to give

00:49:41if people would

00:49:42call this number

00:49:43and put this

00:49:44victory all over

00:49:46the world

00:49:46on every available

00:49:47voice

00:49:47every available

00:49:48outlet

00:49:49the father

00:49:50he would say

00:49:51Jesus go get

00:49:52him

00:49:55evangelical enterprises

00:49:56raise billions

00:49:58of dollars

00:49:58we're not talking

00:49:59about millions

00:50:00or even hundreds

00:50:01of millions

00:50:01anymore

00:50:02but billions

00:50:03of dollars

00:50:04in mostly

00:50:06ten to twenty-five

00:50:07dollar contributions

00:50:08well the way

00:50:09you get those

00:50:10contributions

00:50:12is by ginning up

00:50:14fear and anger

00:50:17when I was

00:50:18an activist

00:50:19on the religious

00:50:20right

00:50:21I would meet

00:50:22with fundraisers

00:50:23I would hear

00:50:24from them

00:50:25you've got to

00:50:26give me plenty

00:50:27of fear

00:50:29and anger

00:50:30I need to

00:50:31make your people

00:50:32as mad as hell

00:50:33and frightened

00:50:35to go to sleep

00:50:36at night

00:50:36because when

00:50:37they're that afraid

00:50:38they're going to

00:50:39send you

00:50:39a lot of money

00:50:41if you want

00:50:43Armageddon

00:50:43then that's

00:50:44precisely

00:50:45what will be

00:50:46delivered

00:50:47this is

00:50:48the fight

00:50:49I was kind of

00:50:50stricken in

00:50:51conscience about that

00:50:53but over time

00:50:54you kind of

00:50:55learn to

00:50:56engage in a

00:50:56sort of

00:50:58modus vivendi

00:50:59just a way

00:51:00of being

00:51:01we need the money

00:51:02to fuel

00:51:04our work

00:51:05and the only way

00:51:07to get it

00:51:07is

00:51:08more fear

00:51:10and more anger

00:51:12if you're not

00:51:13willing

00:51:14to give up

00:51:15your nation

00:51:15to a woke

00:51:16agenda

00:51:16that's not

00:51:17left

00:51:18it's liberal

00:51:18it's so far

00:51:19liberal

00:51:20it's out to

00:51:21destroy the

00:51:22very fabric

00:51:22of this nation

00:51:23we're taking

00:51:24our nation

00:51:25back

00:51:27well now

00:51:28it's out of

00:51:29control

00:51:3030 years

00:51:31into that

00:51:3240 years

00:51:33into it

00:51:33we have

00:51:35Christians

00:51:35who are

00:51:36terrified

00:51:37of the

00:51:38external world

00:51:39they want

00:51:40to educate

00:51:41your children

00:51:41they want

00:51:42to take

00:51:42your kids

00:51:43from you

00:51:43they don't

00:51:44want you

00:51:44to do

00:51:44anything

00:51:45that resembles

00:51:45Christianity

00:51:46or stand up

00:51:47for what's

00:51:48right

00:51:48or stand up

00:51:49for what's

00:51:49truth

00:51:50and if you

00:51:50believe that

00:51:51you're going

00:51:52to stand

00:51:52with me

00:51:52I need

00:51:53to hear

00:51:53it right

00:51:53now

00:51:59Christian

00:52:00nationalism

00:52:00has these

00:52:01two

00:52:02centered ideas

00:52:03that are

00:52:04really in

00:52:04contrast to

00:52:05one another

00:52:05and it's

00:52:06quite a

00:52:06conundrum

00:52:06one is

00:52:07that the

00:52:08United States

00:52:08is a

00:52:09Christian

00:52:09nation

00:52:09and the

00:52:10other is

00:52:10that

00:52:11Christianity

00:52:11is always

00:52:12under assault

00:52:13in the

00:52:13United States

00:52:13and adherence

00:52:14to Christianity

00:52:15are persecuted

00:52:16people

00:52:16and both

00:52:17of those

00:52:18are proclaimed

00:52:18all of the

00:52:19time

00:52:19that it

00:52:20is Christian

00:52:21and it's

00:52:21default

00:52:22religion

00:52:22and

00:52:23Christian

00:52:24people

00:52:24can't get

00:52:25a break

00:52:25in this

00:52:25country

00:52:26and are

00:52:26persecuted

00:52:26by the

00:52:27authorities

00:52:28of this

00:52:28country

00:52:28undermining

00:52:29Christianity

00:52:30is the

00:52:31central project

00:52:32of the

00:52:32left

00:52:33because it

00:52:34stands in

00:52:34their way

00:52:34we may

00:52:35have to be

00:52:35in prison

00:52:36and suffer

00:52:38great persecution

00:52:39as a result

00:52:40of our

00:52:40commitment

00:52:40to biblical

00:52:41truth

00:52:41we are there

00:52:43my friend

00:52:43that's not

00:52:44hyperbole

00:52:45I mean

00:52:45the writing

00:52:46is on the

00:52:47wall

00:52:47they don't

00:52:48want the

00:52:48gospel preached

00:52:49anymore

00:52:50in fact

00:52:51the governor

00:52:52of New York

00:52:53said we don't

00:52:54want you

00:52:55kind of people

00:52:56in other words

00:52:57we don't want

00:52:57you pro-life

00:52:59people in

00:53:00our state

00:53:01wow

00:53:03there is a

00:53:04biblical narrative

00:53:04of persecution

00:53:06where

00:53:07throughout history

00:53:08if you are

00:53:09faithful to

00:53:10Jesus Christ

00:53:10you will be

00:53:10persecuted

00:53:12so there's this

00:53:13built-in instinct

00:53:14in some American

00:53:14Christianity to say

00:53:15if you're really

00:53:17faithful you're going

00:53:18to suffer and

00:53:18struggle

00:53:20and so that

00:53:20validates your

00:53:21faith

00:53:24because the

00:53:25Bible ends

00:53:26with the

00:53:27most exciting

00:53:28stuff

00:53:29and it's about

00:53:30us being

00:53:30persecuted

00:53:32we're almost

00:53:33excited about

00:53:34being persecuted

00:53:35because it means

00:53:35we're getting down

00:53:36to the good

00:53:37stuff

00:53:37Christians in the

00:53:38West are now

00:53:39experiencing just

00:53:40a small taste

00:53:40of what their

00:53:41brothers and

00:53:42sisters living in

00:53:43restricted countries

00:53:44have experienced

00:53:45for years

00:53:46and guess what

00:53:47it's likely to

00:53:48get worse

00:53:49there are a lot

00:53:49of voices who

00:53:50are telling

00:53:50Christians you're

00:53:51one election away

00:53:52from losing

00:53:52your Christian

00:53:53school

00:53:53you're one

00:53:54election away

00:53:55from losing

00:53:56your church

00:53:57you're one

00:53:58election away

00:53:59from the

00:54:00total takeover

00:54:01of your local

00:54:02public school

00:54:03by far left

00:54:04ideologues

00:54:05who pays

00:54:06your salary

00:54:08so you have

00:54:10millions of

00:54:11people who are

00:54:12in a state

00:54:12of deep

00:54:13anguish

00:54:14where they feel

00:54:15like something

00:54:16that they love

00:54:16is being

00:54:17not lost

00:54:19is almost

00:54:20too passive

00:54:20destroyed

00:54:21and destroyed

00:54:23is too

00:54:25mild

00:54:25maliciously

00:54:26destroyed

00:54:28intentionally

00:54:28and maliciously

00:54:30destroyed

00:54:30something that

00:54:31they love

00:54:33an idea

00:54:34of what

00:54:35America is

00:54:35that is

00:54:36deeply

00:54:37connected

00:54:37to their

00:54:38faith

00:54:39but when

00:54:40you dive

00:54:41in and you

00:54:41say

00:54:41how have

00:54:42you lost

00:54:43liberty

00:54:43for example

00:54:46really there

00:54:47isn't an

00:54:47answer to that

00:54:48because people

00:54:49have not

00:54:49lost liberty

00:54:50in fact

00:54:50first amendment

00:54:51jurisprudence

00:54:52has never

00:54:53been more

00:54:53robust in the

00:54:54whole history

00:54:54of our

00:54:54country

00:54:56we are

00:54:57stopping

00:54:59coal

00:54:59the attacks

00:55:01on judeo-christian

00:55:03values

00:55:06Donald Trump

00:55:07jumped on that

00:55:08message of

00:55:09America is

00:55:10falling apart

00:55:10and you need

00:55:11to fight

00:55:12if you don't

00:55:13want to lose

00:55:13your country

00:55:14it wasn't as

00:55:16though Trump

00:55:16created Christian

00:55:17nationalism

00:55:18or in any way

00:55:18brought this

00:55:19onto the scene

00:55:20it had been

00:55:20with us for

00:55:20decades before

00:55:21but what Trump

00:55:22gave it was a

00:55:23megaphone

00:55:24in America

00:55:24we don't worship

00:55:25government

00:55:26we worship God

00:55:30now we were hearing

00:55:32this rhetoric

00:55:33much more often

00:55:35and much more

00:55:35loudly

00:55:36than ever before

00:55:37we don't want

00:55:38to see God

00:55:39forced out

00:55:40of the public

00:55:41square

00:55:41driven out

00:55:42of our schools

00:55:43or pushed out

00:55:45of our civic

00:55:46life

00:55:46we want to see

00:55:48prayers before

00:55:49football games

00:55:50if they want

00:55:50to give prayers

00:55:57Donald Trump

00:55:58understood

00:55:59something that

00:56:00was untapped

00:56:01out there

00:56:01about resentments

00:56:03about us

00:56:04versus them

00:56:05about being

00:56:07part of the tribe

00:56:08and once you

00:56:09add that

00:56:10religious element

00:56:11to all of this

00:56:12and you think

00:56:12of Christianity

00:56:13as the sword

00:56:14and the shield

00:56:15you can see

00:56:16how that ramps

00:56:17everything up

00:56:18Jews will not

00:56:20replace us

00:56:21Jews will not

00:56:23replace us

00:56:25there were people

00:56:26in that rally

00:56:27and I looked

00:56:28the night before

00:56:28there were people

00:56:31protesting

00:56:31very quietly

00:56:33the taking down

00:56:35of the statue

00:56:36of Robert E. Lee

00:56:40I'm a national reporter

00:56:42my beat

00:56:42is the intersection

00:56:43of religion

00:56:44and politics

00:56:46when I cover

00:56:47certain events

00:56:48I have to be concerned

00:56:49about whether or not

00:56:51violence could occur

00:56:51there

00:56:52and that wasn't

00:56:53necessarily true

00:56:53a few years ago

00:57:00political violence

00:57:01has just been a part

00:57:02of the last few years

00:57:03covering Christian

00:57:05nationalism

00:57:05we are in the midst

00:57:08of a civil war

00:57:09between good and evil

00:57:10the good is all

00:57:11the folks you see here

00:57:12we pray that each of us

00:57:15we even have people

00:57:16arming up now

00:57:18I know plenty of pastors

00:57:20who go into the pulpit

00:57:21now armed with a

00:57:22semi-automatic handgun

00:57:25my own spiritual family

00:57:27sees violence

00:57:29as perhaps an effective tool

00:57:36one of the key questions

00:57:38when we look at

00:57:39Christian nationalism

00:57:40is how does it condone

00:57:41violence

00:57:42and political violence

00:57:43the Bible is full

00:57:45of commands

00:57:46to not just love

00:57:49one's neighbor

00:57:49to love one's enemies

00:57:52Christian nationalism

00:57:53is going against

00:57:54the core teachings

00:57:55of Christianity

00:57:56do you think he looked

00:57:57like this effeminate picture

00:57:59that we always see

00:58:00of him that

00:58:01he didn't look like that

00:58:03he was a tough guy

00:58:04and that's the Jesus

00:58:05that I want to be like

00:58:07that's the side

00:58:08that I want to be like

00:58:09over the last decades

00:58:11in these devotional books

00:58:13that millions

00:58:14of Christian men

00:58:16and women read

00:58:17we see the rise

00:58:19of a more muscular Jesus

00:58:23you see a Jesus

00:58:24who is a warrior Christ

00:58:27I don't serve a dead Jew

00:58:28in a Palestinian tomb

00:58:29I serve a risen Savior

00:58:30with power and glory

00:58:31that victoriously

00:58:32came up out of a grave

00:58:33and he took the keys

00:58:34of death and hell

00:58:35and the Bible says

00:58:36in Genesis chapter 3

00:58:37in verse 15

00:58:38that the serpent

00:58:39would bruise his heel

00:58:40but the heel of that man

00:58:42would bruise Satan's head

00:58:47Christian nationalists

00:58:48will hold up some teachings

00:58:50and neglect others

00:58:52when the Bible is brought in

00:58:54it's the book of Revelation

00:58:55Revelation 19

00:58:57shows us a Jesus

00:58:59you can't control

00:59:00this is not gentle Jesus

00:59:03meek and mild

00:59:03this is giant Jesus

00:59:06mighty and riled

00:59:08the Bible does depict

00:59:10a warrior Jesus

00:59:12just with a very different

00:59:14kind of warfare

00:59:15the warfare takes place

00:59:17spiritually through the means

00:59:18of the gospel

00:59:19not through physical violence

00:59:22in the New Testament

00:59:24Jesus repudiated that

00:59:26when his own disciple

00:59:27Peter pulled out the sword

00:59:29to defend him

00:59:31from being arrested

00:59:32and Jesus said

00:59:34put away your sword

00:59:35those who live by the sword

00:59:37will perish by the sword

00:59:38but there are people

00:59:41who will translate

00:59:42spiritual warfare categories

00:59:45into literal political violence

00:59:48get the f*** out of the way

00:59:50what the f*** up

00:59:52you want some trouble

00:59:53there is a righteous use of force

00:59:57in a fallen world

00:59:58a righteous use of weaponry

01:00:00in a fallen world

01:00:01yes Jesus will bring peace

01:00:03but only after he slays his enemies

01:00:06the enemy is ruthless

01:00:09and so to protect the church

01:00:12to protect God's people

01:00:14you need to engage in violence

01:00:19one of the biggest fallacies

01:00:21about religion

01:00:22especially Christianity in particular

01:00:24is that somehow

01:00:25it's going to make you meek

01:00:26and docile

01:00:27and understanding

01:00:29when as a matter of fact

01:00:30we can look throughout history

01:00:32whether we're talking about

01:00:33American history

01:00:34or we're talking about

01:00:35Roman history

01:00:36or anything else

01:00:36that Christianity

01:00:38has also always been

01:00:40associated with violence

01:00:41it's not just Islam

01:00:43it's Christianity too

01:00:45you don't get wars of religion

01:00:46without people believing

01:00:48that the cross

01:00:49is going to go before them

01:00:50and fight their battles

01:00:53of all symbols

01:00:54they could have chosen

01:00:55the Ku Klux Klan

01:00:58chose the cross of Christianity

01:00:59but they perverted it

01:01:02and used that cross

01:01:04as a symbol of terror

01:01:07for them

01:01:08to be Christian

01:01:09is to believe

01:01:11that the society

01:01:12is quote unquote

01:01:13for the white man

01:01:15other people are supposed

01:01:17to be subordinate

01:01:18not just as a matter of politics

01:01:19but as a matter of religion

01:01:21and that's where

01:01:23Christian nationalism

01:01:24goes off the rail

01:01:26is because

01:01:27what it tends to suggest

01:01:29most often

01:01:30is that God

01:01:34ordains

01:01:35injustice

01:01:37Trump is

01:01:38going in

01:01:39and trying to take

01:01:39America by the hand

01:01:41and say

01:01:41we can be great again

01:01:43I'm coming to you

01:01:43as a prophet

01:01:45as a man of God

01:01:46and I'm telling you

01:01:47it's time to pray

01:01:48for the president

01:01:51but here's what the Holy Spirit

01:01:53said to me last night

01:01:54and here's what he said

01:01:54for me to tell you

01:01:56oh my God

01:01:58there's going to be

01:01:58an attempt

01:01:59to take him out of power

01:02:01let's stand

01:02:02and pray right now

01:02:04come on

01:02:05help me out

01:02:05right now

01:02:06I want you to lift your voice

01:02:07everybody help me pray

01:02:09keep him Holy Spirit

01:02:11Christian support for Trump

01:02:13had an extra degree

01:02:14of fanaticism to it

01:02:15that much of the mainstream media

01:02:17just missed completely

01:02:19and that fanaticism

01:02:21was supplied by prophecy

01:02:22somebody had to do it

01:02:25I am the chosen one

01:02:26I said Mr. President

01:02:27I know there are people

01:02:28that say

01:02:29you know

01:02:29you said you were

01:02:30the chosen one

01:02:32and I said

01:02:34you were

01:02:35I think God

01:02:36calls all of us

01:02:38to fill different roles

01:02:40at different times

01:02:41and I think that

01:02:43he wanted Donald Trump

01:02:44to become president

01:02:45and that's why

01:02:46he's there

01:02:47a lot of it

01:02:47was centered around

01:02:48a feeling that

01:02:49they were participating

01:02:50in this tremendous move

01:02:52of God

01:02:53to save the United States

01:02:55of America

01:02:55through this unlikely hero

01:02:58somebody who was going

01:02:59to deliver God's people

01:03:00even if he wasn't

01:03:01necessarily a believer

01:03:02himself

01:03:03a Cyrus figure

01:03:05one evangelical leader

01:03:06Lance Wallnau

01:03:07believes Trump

01:03:08is like the Persian king

01:03:10Cyrus the Great

01:03:11according to the Bible

01:03:12Cyrus ruled over

01:03:13ancient Babylon

01:03:14and made a decree

01:03:16that the Jewish temple

01:03:17should be rebuilt

01:03:18Trump has the Cyrus

01:03:20anointing

01:03:21to navigate in chaos

01:03:23they speak of Donald Trump

01:03:25as a new messiah

01:03:26they speak of him

01:03:28as a godly person

01:03:30who is directly

01:03:31communicating

01:03:32with God

01:03:34God spoke to me

01:03:36alright

01:03:37what's going to happen

01:03:38in 2020

01:03:38I think

01:03:39President Trump

01:03:40is going to be

01:03:41reelected

01:03:42handily

01:03:43we thank you

01:03:44for this nation

01:03:45that was born

01:03:45in 1776

01:03:47we pray in 2020

01:03:49it would be born again

01:03:51by 2020

01:03:52the election

01:03:53is Donald Trump's

01:03:54divine destiny

01:03:55here is the long

01:03:57and winding road

01:03:58to 270

01:03:59in the commonwealth

01:04:01of Massachusetts

01:04:02Joe Biden

01:04:03the projected winner

01:04:04tonight

01:04:04in the state of Maryland

01:04:06Joe Biden

01:04:07the predicted winner

01:04:08tonight

01:04:09this is a fraud

01:04:10on the American public

01:04:13this is an embarrassment

01:04:14to our country

01:04:17we were getting ready

01:04:18to win this election

01:04:20frankly

01:04:21we did win this election

01:04:25the president came out

01:04:27claimed he won something

01:04:28that he has not won yet

01:04:29and neither has Joe Biden

01:04:30to be clear

01:04:31because we were still

01:04:31counting ballots

01:04:32and the president

01:04:33also threatened legal action

01:04:34even though

01:04:35there's nothing to challenge yet

01:04:36because ballots

01:04:37are still being counted

01:04:38if you count the legal votes

01:04:41I easily win

01:04:42the Fox News decision desk

01:04:45can now project

01:04:46that former vice president

01:04:47Joe Biden

01:04:48will win

01:04:49Pennsylvania

01:04:49and Nevada

01:04:51Donald Trump

01:04:52will be denied

01:04:53a second term

01:04:57facts don't matter

01:04:59what you see

01:05:00with your own eyes

01:05:01doesn't matter

01:05:03I have access

01:05:04to a secret source

01:05:06of knowledge

01:05:07that tells me

01:05:08this election

01:05:09was stolen

01:05:11if you believe

01:05:12that Donald Trump

01:05:13was anointed by God

01:05:15to be president

01:05:15if you believe

01:05:17that America

01:05:17was founded

01:05:18as a Christian nation

01:05:20and that we need

01:05:21to get back

01:05:22to those godly principles

01:05:24if you believe

01:05:25those things

01:05:26then

01:05:27how could the election

01:05:29not have been stolen

01:05:30the media said

01:05:32Joe Biden's president

01:05:33ha ha ha ha

01:05:35ha ha ha

01:05:37ha ha ha

01:05:38if you viewed

01:05:40Donald Trump

01:05:41as Cyrus

01:05:42the pagan king

01:05:43that God had anointed

01:05:44to save his people

01:05:46then you were looking

01:05:48for what was going

01:05:49to happen next

01:05:50that would make it all

01:05:51make sense

01:05:52it was billed

01:05:53the million MAGA march

01:05:55today thousands

01:05:56of President Trump's

01:05:57supporters gathered

01:05:57in the nation's capital

01:05:58many of them

01:05:59refusing to accept

01:06:00that president-elect

01:06:01Joe Biden

01:06:02won the election

01:06:03I believe it's a blessing

01:06:05God's got his hand

01:06:06in all of this

01:06:06Donald Trump

01:06:07because he got so many votes

01:06:09and they had to backfill

01:06:10now we all know

01:06:11it was it was fraud

01:06:13Donald Trump

01:06:14will be our president

01:06:15for four more years

01:06:17the whole idea

01:06:19that the election

01:06:21was stolen

01:06:24became

01:06:25just widely accepted

01:06:27among Christians

01:06:30I hear an army

01:06:33of angels

01:06:33coming from heaven

01:06:35to help

01:06:35our beautiful president

01:06:37win this battle

01:06:38of good versus evil

01:06:40you started to hear

01:06:41rhetoric

01:06:42about spiritual warfare

01:06:45this is an epic battle

01:06:47of good versus evil

01:06:51God raised up an army

01:06:54and I'm telling you

01:06:55right now

01:06:56with all of my soul

01:06:57with all my heart

01:06:57I've not lost

01:06:58one moment's sleep

01:06:59over what's going to

01:07:00happen on the 6th

01:07:01I declare unto you

01:07:02that God Almighty

01:07:03is about to get glory

01:07:05he's about to show up

01:07:06he's about to step

01:07:07off his throne

01:07:08he's about to do

01:07:09something in this nation

01:07:10that's going to be

01:07:11so glorious

01:07:13and so you basically

01:07:14had a group of people

01:07:15who believed

01:07:16that God had called them

01:07:18to Washington D.C.

01:07:20and to storm the capital

01:07:25for thine is the kingdom

01:07:27and the power

01:07:29and the glory

01:07:30forever

01:07:31amen

01:07:32on January 5th

01:07:34there was

01:07:36a religious rally

01:07:37before the event

01:07:39on January 6th

01:07:40what they call

01:07:41Jericho marches

01:07:42we know this battle

01:07:43belongs to you Lord

01:07:44and I thank you

01:07:45for every single

01:07:46one of these warriors

01:07:47who have come out today

01:07:48the idea

01:07:49to bring Christian

01:07:50people together

01:07:51to march around

01:07:52the capital

01:07:53in imagery

01:07:54that's supposed

01:07:55to conjure up

01:07:56the nation of Israel

01:07:58marching around

01:07:59the walls of Jericho

01:08:02go out to face them

01:08:04tomorrow

01:08:05amen

01:08:06and if you know

01:08:07that story

01:08:08it's the story

01:08:09where the walls of Jericho

01:08:10come crumbling down

01:08:13still these demonstrators

01:08:15keep believing

01:08:15that some revelation

01:08:16could possibly change

01:08:17the election outcome

01:08:18and they insist

01:08:19their concerns and hopes

01:08:20shouldn't be ignored

01:08:21or belittled

01:08:22the church

01:08:23is not a bear

01:08:24that they should have poked

01:08:25they went to march

01:08:27around the U.S. Capitol

01:08:28in order to send

01:08:30the message

01:08:30that the structure

01:08:31of our government

01:08:32would come collapsing down

01:08:33and would reinstate

01:08:35Donald Trump as president

01:08:36come to the big D.C. marches

01:08:37on the 5th and 6th

01:08:38of January

01:08:39I'll see you there

01:08:40God bless

01:08:42this was not a secret

01:08:43they were advertising it

01:08:52people didn't just show up

01:08:53they went to churches

01:08:55and got on buses

01:08:56and drove across the country

01:08:57to be at these rallies

01:08:59on January 5th

01:09:00we thank you Lord

01:09:01you are going to bring

01:09:02the exposure

01:09:03that needs to take place

01:09:04for all of us

01:09:05that have friends

01:09:06and family members

01:09:07that think we're crazy

01:09:09you were primed

01:09:10to believe that

01:09:11you've been under siege

01:09:13by secular society

01:09:14quote unquote

01:09:15for quite some time

01:09:16then it's not a huge leap

01:09:18to say

01:09:19well

01:09:19this is the apocalypse

01:09:21this is the end times

01:09:22and we have to do

01:09:23whatever we can

01:09:24to stop that from occurring

01:09:25this struggle

01:09:27God has put us in

01:09:28to test us

01:09:29and God is on our side

01:09:31and incredible things

01:09:33are coming

01:09:33this is nothing less

01:09:36than an epic struggle

01:09:37between the godly

01:09:39and the godless

01:09:40between good and evil

01:09:45and we will win this fight

01:09:47or America will step off

01:09:49into a thousand years

01:09:51of darkness

01:09:52and I'm telling you

01:09:53Jesus is a lamb

01:09:54that takes away

01:09:54the sin of the world

01:09:56but he is not just a lamb

01:09:59he is the lion

01:10:00of the tribe

01:10:01of Judah

01:10:02and he's about to roar again

01:10:04in the United States

01:10:05of America

01:10:07we're going to take

01:10:08our nation back

01:10:10Christian nationalism

01:10:11provided the permission structure

01:10:13to attack

01:10:15the beating heart

01:10:16of American democracy

01:10:17you look like

01:10:19fucking traitors

01:10:20we are the true

01:10:22f***ing lions

01:10:23we are the true

01:10:24f***ing heroes here

01:10:33so in graduate school

01:10:35I was an American historian

01:10:37by training

01:10:38American religious historian

01:10:39but I had an outside field

01:10:4220th century Germany

01:10:43with a focus on

01:10:46the German Christian movement

01:10:49I had a fascination

01:10:50with how could

01:10:52Christians

01:10:54participate in a movement

01:10:55like the Third Reich

01:10:57and how could they do so

01:10:59not kind of neglecting

01:11:01their Christianity

01:11:02or at least not

01:11:03to their mind

01:11:04but as Christians

01:11:06twisting their Christianity

01:11:08in such a way

01:11:10that it was compatible

01:11:11with Nazism

01:11:15when Adolf Hitler

01:11:17ascended

01:11:17to the chancellorship

01:11:19he didn't seize power

01:11:21it was given to him

01:11:22by a very Christian

01:11:24electorate

01:11:25who declared him

01:11:28in 1933

01:11:29to be a gift

01:11:30and miracle

01:11:32from God

01:11:36and I remember quite well

01:11:38when I was being trained

01:11:40as a minister

01:11:40we were told

01:11:41never prepare a sermon

01:11:43without consulting

01:11:45the Dictionary of New Testament

01:11:47Theology

01:11:48edited by Gerhard Kittel

01:11:50a good German

01:11:52evangelical Bible scholar

01:11:54nobody ever told me

01:11:56that Gerhard Kittel

01:11:58was Adolf Hitler's

01:12:00resident theologian

01:12:01that gave him

01:12:02the theological justification

01:12:04for genocide

01:12:05why didn't we ever know

01:12:09that one of the theologians

01:12:11we consulted most often

01:12:13justified

01:12:14genocide

01:12:19boy

01:12:21that was an eye opener

01:12:25one doesn't derive

01:12:27one's values

01:12:29from scripture

01:12:31one inserts

01:12:33one's values

01:12:34into scripture

01:12:50let us pray

01:12:56let us pray

01:12:57Lord

01:12:59let your plans

01:13:01stand forever

01:13:02and may your purpose

01:13:04for this nation

01:13:05stand strong

01:13:07almighty God

01:13:09have compassion

01:13:12on us

01:13:13with your

01:13:14unfailing love

01:13:18as our lawmakers

01:13:21prepare

01:13:22to formally

01:13:23certify

01:13:25the votes

01:13:39guide

01:13:41our legislators

01:13:42with your wisdom

01:13:44and truth

01:13:47people thought

01:13:49that they were there

01:13:50to defend God

01:13:52to defend their faith

01:13:53and to defend democracy

01:13:55while they were trying

01:13:56to overturn

01:13:57our democracy

01:13:58this is our

01:14:00capital

01:14:24you had crosses

01:14:28you had bible verses

01:14:35pictures of Jesus

01:14:37we're here storming the gates

01:14:40of the government

01:14:47they're praying

01:14:49in the name of Jesus Christ

01:14:53they were using religion

01:14:55as a way to justify

01:14:59overturning democracy

01:15:11Christian nationalism

01:15:12uses Christianity

01:15:14as a means to an end

01:15:16that end

01:15:17being some form

01:15:18of authoritarianism

01:15:22if there's a religious

01:15:24basis

01:15:25for one's authority

01:15:27one is able to say

01:15:28you're not just wrong

01:15:30you're on the wrong

01:15:31side of God

01:15:32the body of Christ

01:15:33is the one that's going

01:15:34to make America

01:15:35great again

01:15:35one of the things

01:15:37one of the things

01:15:37I am afraid

01:15:38of is that

01:15:40I see the erosion

01:15:41of democratic norms

01:15:43and institutions

01:15:44I see a shocking

01:15:45lack of commitment

01:15:46to American democracy

01:15:49among many

01:15:49American Christians

01:15:50and it's not clear

01:15:52to me

01:15:52where that will stop

01:15:54Jesus Christ

01:15:56we can vote your game

01:15:57this threat

01:15:58of what

01:15:59I no longer

01:16:00even pretend

01:16:01is evangelicalism

01:16:02this white

01:16:07religious

01:16:09nationalism

01:16:10may present

01:16:13one of the greatest

01:16:14dangers ever

01:16:16to our democratic

01:16:17experiment

01:16:23it's an ugly exercise

01:16:25to try to imagine

01:16:26what America might do

01:16:28as a fascist state

01:16:33thank you for allowing

01:16:34the United States

01:16:35of America

01:16:35to be reborn

01:16:36thank you for allowing

01:16:37us to get rid of

01:16:38the communists

01:16:38the globalists

01:16:39and the traitors

01:16:40within our government

01:16:41we love you

01:16:41and we thank you

01:16:42in Christ's holy name

01:16:43we pray

01:16:44amen

01:17:01after January 6th

01:17:03there was a brief moment

01:17:04where Christian nationalism

01:17:06came into the limelight

01:17:07the problem isn't

01:17:09Christianity

01:17:10one of the world's

01:17:11great religions

01:17:11no this particular brand

01:17:13of Christianity

01:17:14that is linked up

01:17:15with the Trump movement

01:17:16is a different kind of thing

01:17:17Christian nationalism

01:17:19it seemed like the country

01:17:21was gonna notice

01:17:23and wake up

01:17:23to this threat

01:17:27and that didn't happen

01:17:28don't believe what you see

01:17:30on the press

01:17:30it was

01:17:31there's

01:17:32it was a

01:17:32it was over a million

01:17:33wonderful wonderful

01:17:35wonderful wonderful people

01:17:36who were singing

01:17:38worship songs

01:17:39and loving Jesus

01:17:40so they broke into the capital

01:17:42because D.C. police

01:17:43didn't do their job

01:17:44the D.C. police

01:17:44they didn't break into anything

01:17:46they let them in

01:17:47not only did they let them in

01:17:50it's paid for by tax dollars

01:17:52that's all

01:17:53they were Americans

01:17:53and they were innocent

01:17:55something that makes me fear

01:17:57for the future

01:17:58is that we see Americans

01:18:00reevaluating what happened

01:18:01on January 6th

01:18:03you know if you didn't know

01:18:04the TV footage was a video

01:18:05from January the 6th

01:18:07you would actually think

01:18:08it was a normal tourist visit

01:18:10they wandered freely

01:18:12through the capital

01:18:13like it was their building

01:18:14or something

01:18:14they didn't have guns

01:18:16but a lot of them

01:18:17had extremely dangerous ideas

01:18:18they talked about

01:18:19the constitution

01:18:20and something called

01:18:21their rights

01:18:22so my colleague

01:18:23Samuel Perry

01:18:24gathered data

01:18:26in February of 2021

01:18:27and found that

01:18:29three quarters of

01:18:30ambassadors

01:18:31and accommodators

01:18:32of Christian nationalism

01:18:33said those that

01:18:34engaged in the riot

01:18:35should be prosecuted

01:18:36when he asked the same

01:18:37question six months later

01:18:39that number had dropped

01:18:40to around 50%

01:18:43and so as time continues

01:18:45to move on

01:18:45are we going to continue

01:18:46to see them reevaluate

01:18:48the insurrection

01:18:48and move from

01:18:50this was a crime

01:18:51to well maybe this was

01:18:53a necessary evil

01:18:55to possibly moving towards

01:18:57well this was necessary

01:18:58and it was actually good

01:18:59that we attacked the Capitol

01:19:00I think that's a real possibility

01:19:02something that should concern

01:19:04every American

01:19:05but especially

01:19:06American Christians

01:19:08now what we're seeing

01:19:10is Christian nationalists

01:19:11more emboldened

01:19:12and more entrenched

01:19:13in their disinformation

01:19:15and their ideology

01:19:17without the Bible

01:19:18there is no modernity

01:19:20without the Bible

01:19:21there is no America

01:19:23our biblical inheritance

01:19:25is at the center

01:19:27of our politics

01:19:27it is the question

01:19:29of the age

01:19:30welcome back

01:19:31we are following

01:19:32the historic ruling

01:19:33from the Supreme Court

01:19:34the conservative majority

01:19:36has overturned

01:19:37the landmark Roe vs. Wade ruling

01:19:39for the first time

01:19:41since 1973

01:19:42abortion is no longer

01:19:44a nationwide right

01:19:45you have now freed us

01:19:47from the shackles

01:19:49of Roe vs. Wade

01:19:51we thank and we praise you

01:19:55yes it's going to be hard

01:19:56I know as a working mom of four

01:19:58it's not easy working

01:20:01and being a mother

01:20:02and I'm married

01:20:03right

01:20:03I can only imagine

01:20:05if I were a single mother

01:20:06it's hard work

01:20:08but you can do it

01:20:10and guess what

01:20:11the pro-life movement

01:20:12stands with you

01:20:13every single step

01:20:15of the way

01:20:16in a world

01:20:17without Roe vs. Wade

01:20:19American evangelicals

01:20:21will face

01:20:21the greatest

01:20:23ethical crisis

01:20:24we have ever faced

01:20:26which is

01:20:27will we take

01:20:29all the hundreds

01:20:30of millions

01:20:31of dollars

01:20:32raised

01:20:34to end abortion

01:20:35will we now take

01:20:36that same amount

01:20:38of resources

01:20:39and marshal them

01:20:40to help

01:20:41women who are facing

01:20:43unwelcomed pregnancies

01:20:46the children

01:20:47that are born to them

01:20:50most of the people

01:20:51I knew

01:20:52in the pro-life movement

01:20:53were quite sincere

01:20:55in their belief system

01:20:56but none of us

01:20:58had played out

01:20:59the unintended consequences

01:21:01I will say

01:21:03that my attitude

01:21:04about abortion

01:21:05was

01:21:09you know

01:21:09I'm a Catholic sister

01:21:11it wasn't my issue

01:21:12so it was like

01:21:13okay

01:21:14I oppose abortion

01:21:15but then

01:21:16when I was practicing law

01:21:17in Oakland

01:21:18I got appointed

01:21:20by the court

01:21:20to represent

01:21:21a 13 year old

01:21:22who had been raped

01:21:23by her uncle

01:21:24and was pregnant

01:21:25and so my responsibility

01:21:27as her lawyer

01:21:28was to walk with her

01:21:30and help her make choices

01:21:32that forever shifted

01:21:34my approach

01:21:35because what I realized

01:21:37is

01:21:38that it's not

01:21:39this

01:21:42antiseptic

01:21:43removed decision

01:21:45they're human beings

01:21:48struggling

01:21:49struggling

01:21:50so

01:21:52I became

01:21:53much more nuanced

01:21:54about the reality

01:21:55we'll be winning

01:21:56we did it

01:21:58we did it

01:21:59we did it

01:22:00I've been working

01:22:01and praying

01:22:02for the past

01:22:02like five years

01:22:03for this day

01:22:04but we still have

01:22:05a ton of work to do

01:22:06to get all the states

01:22:07to ban abortion

01:22:08but this is a huge step

01:22:09we love

01:22:11the cultural generation

01:22:12and we

01:22:13will abolish

01:22:15our election

01:22:22I think this is a really good time

01:22:24for Christians

01:22:25to engage in really careful reassessment

01:22:28to go back to the scriptures

01:22:32and to read those

01:22:34with fresh eyes

01:22:36and see

01:22:36what God's teachings are

01:22:39to look at the life of Christ

01:22:42and to look at what Jesus calls us to do

01:22:46and who Jesus calls us to be

01:22:49and then

01:22:50to take a look

01:22:52at

01:22:53your political views

01:22:58the United States

01:22:59as a political entity

01:23:01its future is uncertain

01:23:03we don't know

01:23:04what might happen

01:23:05we hope for the best

01:23:10the United States of America

01:23:12is a people movement

01:23:14and we will be

01:23:16however the people

01:23:17of this country

01:23:17choose to be

01:23:19that's what we're going to be

01:23:20as a nation

01:23:24I make a very sharp distinction

01:23:27between patriotism

01:23:28and nationalism

01:23:30nationalism is

01:23:31something that is

01:23:33usually idolatrous

01:23:34and self-exalting

01:23:40patriotism

01:23:41I think

01:23:41is gratitude

01:23:43for being in a country

01:23:45as magnificent

01:23:47as this one

01:23:50this was an accident

01:23:52of history

01:23:53we are fundamentally

01:23:55a nation of immigrants

01:23:56so we came from

01:23:57all over the place

01:23:58speaking different languages

01:23:59worshipping different gods

01:24:01however you think about

01:24:03this country

01:24:04the one thing that cannot

01:24:06be denied

01:24:06is that at the heart of it

01:24:08is the idea of pluralism

01:24:11e pluribus unum

01:24:13that's the whole

01:24:15shebang right there

01:24:16out of the many

01:24:18one

01:24:22the biggest sin

01:24:25if you will

01:24:25of Christian nationalism

01:24:27is that it sees pluralism

01:24:29as a weakness

01:24:30and not what it is

01:24:32the foundation

01:24:33of what it means

01:24:34to be American

01:24:41this is what puzzles me

01:24:43Christian nationalists

01:24:44treating multiculturalism

01:24:46as a threat to America

01:24:48even though that is America

01:24:51there's a version

01:24:52of American nationalism

01:24:53that's trying to

01:24:55camouflage itself

01:24:56as Christianity

01:24:57and it's doing

01:24:58a whole lot of damage

01:24:59not just to our democracy

01:25:01but to the reputation

01:25:02of our faith

01:25:03faith ought not to be reduced

01:25:05to an ideology

01:25:06certainly not an ideology

01:25:08of hate

01:25:08or exclusion

01:25:09God is in me

01:25:11and God is in you

01:25:11and we need to

01:25:13work together

01:25:14and really

01:25:15fight for a better life

01:25:16for everybody

01:25:20Christianity at its best

01:25:22committed to love

01:25:23and truth

01:25:24and justice

01:25:27has and always will

01:25:28be a powerful

01:25:29powerful force

01:25:30in the face of sickness

01:25:33the church created hospitals

01:25:34in the face of people

01:25:36needing to be educated

01:25:37the church created

01:25:39universities

01:25:41in the face of Jim Crow

01:25:42and racism

01:25:43the church

01:25:45marched from churches

01:25:46into the street

01:25:47across bridges

01:25:48went to jail

01:25:48and forced

01:25:50non-violent change

01:25:52everywhere you look

01:25:54when the church

01:25:55has been at its best

01:25:56it protects people

01:25:58regardless of their race

01:25:59their creed

01:25:59or their sexuality

01:26:05Jesus' last sermon

01:26:06he was talking about

01:26:07I'm going to judge

01:26:08the nations

01:26:09by these things

01:26:10I'm not going to judge

01:26:11you by your skyscrapers

01:26:13I'm not going to judge

01:26:14you by your tax cuts

01:26:16I'm not going to judge

01:26:17you by your military

01:26:20when people were hungry

01:26:21did you feed them

01:26:23when people were sick

01:26:25did you care for them

01:26:26when people were immigrants

01:26:28did you welcome them

01:26:30when people were at their least

01:26:33did you as a nation

01:26:36lift them up

01:26:40if we do this right

01:26:41what a country we will be

01:26:59you by your law

01:27:02you by your train

01:27:13you by your

01:27:34Se inscreva.

01:28:12Se inscreva.

01:28:32Se inscreva.

01:29:12Se inscreva.

01:29:40Se inscreva.

01:29:43Se inscreva.

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