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00:01I'm going to pour my drink on her.
00:03Arthur!
00:04Can you muzzle your woman?
00:05You're not coming for my husband.
00:08Dinner is served.
00:11I'm going to be a dad.
00:14I'm not really used to that whole gay thing.
00:19I am genuinely sorry.
00:20Best apology means jack shit.
00:22Back in Adelaide, you were digging up some stuff about Alyssa.
00:26I got my eye on you.
00:27He said,
00:28I'm the star.
00:30I didn't say it.
00:31Again, done talking to this liar in my face.
00:35I actually like the Teddy more than I like Joel.
00:37Teddy is not a **** to me like Joel is.
00:41Well, another week, another meltdown.
00:43Welcome back to Maths After The Dinner Party.
00:46I'm Jules here with Brittany and Laura, but I'm the star.
00:50Who told you that?
00:51Huh?
00:51Did someone tell you?
00:52Okay, you don't see the light in me.
00:53As you've no doubt come to realise,
00:55the drama does not stop at the dinner party.
00:57It continues right here on this very couch,
00:59and we're back ready to roll unseen footage
01:01and ask all the questions you are yelling at the TV.
01:05Well, this week had it all, didn't it?
01:07Some couples flourished and others combusted.
01:09Gia fled the experiment for a hot minute,
01:11which should come as absolutely no surprise
01:13since she's fled this show three times now.
01:15Bec was accused of digging up dirt on Alyssa.
01:17Chris finally shared his very exciting baby news with Sam,
01:21which was just amazing.
01:22And two more couples have left the experiment.
01:24Mel and Luke and also Julia and Grayson.
01:26Well, Julia and Grayson may have left the experiment,
01:29but they are far from finished, let me tell you.
01:32They are coming face to face for a very raw, very, I don't know,
01:35would we say nuanced conversation perhaps?
01:37And Stephanie, who initially had a problem with feminism,
01:41seems to somehow this week become the face of it.
01:44Yeah.
01:44Well, she's going to be joining us on the couch tonight as well
01:46and I'm pretty keen to find out where she stands.
01:48But first, a new troublemaker was in town tonight
01:51and that was Juliet.
01:52What a fall from grace, guys.
01:55It really was, wasn't it?
01:56I mean, this seems to be what is happening on repeat.
01:59The women come in, they end up at a cocktail party
02:01and then they just spiral.
02:03It's like Bec handed the baton over to Juliet this week, isn't it?
02:07Yeah, yeah.
02:07It's like she was on her apology to her.
02:09She's like, bam bam, thank you man, Juliet.
02:10It's like, I volunteer as tribute, I'll take it.
02:13Not that it's competition,
02:14but the grooms are looking pretty good at this point by comparison.
02:18They sort of are.
02:18I mean, it's a bit of a disgrace, to be honest.
02:20Yeah.
02:20It's what it is.
02:21Well, look, both Joel and Juliet are going to be joining us very shortly.
02:24But first, let's take a look at where it all started going south.
02:30A video popped up of you that my friend sent me.
02:33What video?
02:34You playing the drums with dildos.
02:38That's kind of pushed me over the edge.
02:40The more I get to know Joel, the more I'll get the ick.
02:44What I need more from you is space.
02:50All you've done is push me away since we started this experiment.
02:53You're pissing me off.
02:54Literally.
02:55I'll leave, actually.
02:56I'm not going to stand to your devil eyes.
02:59You don't value me.
03:00Yeah.
03:00You devalue me.
03:02Okay.
03:02You don't understand me.
03:03I'm going to give you.
03:03You don't see the star in me.
03:05You don't see the light in me.
03:06There's a star in you.
03:07Yeah, literally.
03:08Because it's a performance.
03:09It's a metaphor.
03:10Because it's a performance.
03:11He kind of cracked and said, well, I'm the star.
03:17I would never, ever say anything like that.
03:19I feel like I'm talking to a dummy right now.
03:22What's going on?
03:23I'm not a liar and I have a disdain for liars.
03:25Trying to say that I'm a liar.
03:26I'm.
03:26When you're the liar.
03:28And the other thing is, he likes to cuddle up with his teddy bear at the end of the
03:32night.
03:33What?
03:34I'm not, I'm not married to a man is what we're trying to say.
03:38I'm not married to a man.
03:41I've been putting up with this shit for two weeks, darling.
03:44I've cracked it.
03:46Two weeks of this shit is going to make me deranged.
03:49You've created a deranged girl.
03:51Love.
03:54Well, this week, a star was born and the star is here in the lounge.
03:59Welcome.
04:00I'm not the star of the show.
04:03Teddy is.
04:04Oh, Teddy.
04:05Yeah.
04:06Teddy, Teddy, Teddy.
04:06At least Teddy isn't vicious to me.
04:08Teddy doesn't put me down.
04:09That's why I cuddle up to him at night.
04:11Well, we don't see what happens behind closed doors.
04:12But this week, your wife has absolutely come at you.
04:16How are you feeling?
04:19That's not what I signed up for.
04:20I was only ever kind to her.
04:22I was only ever respectful to her.
04:24And for some reason, she wasn't the same way to me.
04:29And I'm just being myself.
04:30I mean, Juliet kept saying that she thought it was a performance,
04:34that you were putting on a performance.
04:36What was it that was happening in your relationship at that time
04:38that either could have been perceived as a performance?
04:41Because she tipped.
04:43There was something.
04:43She seemed fine.
04:44And she tipped over the edge.
04:46There's nothing performative about me, really.
04:48I'm just my natural self.
04:50I'm an authentic person.
04:52But you're an authentic performer.
04:55Yeah, but like...
04:56It's nothing wrong with being magical.
04:58I'm not trying to be anyone else.
04:59That is just what you see.
05:00What you see is what you get.
05:02I'm like that all the time.
05:05But I'm not the wedding guy all the time.
05:07If you actually sit down and get to know me,
05:10there's a lot of different sides to me.
05:11Your actual comment, which was,
05:14you don't see the star in me.
05:15You don't see the light in me.
05:17Yeah.
05:18Did you mean spark?
05:19Yeah, it's a metaphor.
05:21But do they...
05:21It doesn't mean that I'm a ball of gas in the sky.
05:24Yeah, yeah.
05:24You know, like...
05:25She knows that part.
05:27She means the star on the stage.
05:28Do you understand how people could perceive you
05:33as being entertainer?
05:35If you only see what was put in the wedding episode,
05:39perhaps.
05:40Yeah.
05:41But I'm putting myself out there, really.
05:43I'm not trying to hide.
05:44Yeah.
05:44I don't hide.
05:46Well, look, we do have Juliet with us tonight as well,
05:48and it will be very interesting to hear
05:50what she has to say for herself.
05:51So let's bring her out.
06:01Hello.
06:03Hello.
06:04Hello.
06:05Hi.
06:05Husband.
06:06How are we?
06:07Good.
06:08Hi, guys.
06:09Hi.
06:09Hello.
06:10Hello.
06:11How are we?
06:12You look lovely.
06:13Juliet, that was quite the dinner party.
06:16That was...
06:18a horrible, horrible watch.
06:20Did you lie or did you misremember?
06:24Completely misremembered.
06:26Everything was just completely foggy and blurry,
06:31and I was just...
06:33I feel like I was just wigging completely out
06:36and just wasn't out,
06:37and I heard the star comment,
06:39and as soon as I heard that,
06:41I just went complete boom.
06:43I think the overwhelming emotion
06:45that comes off the screen when it flips is disdain.
06:50Yeah.
06:50Like, you are full of hatred and disdain.
06:53Yeah.
06:53I flipped.
06:54But, I mean, I understand that you flipped,
06:57but, like, what happened to get you there?
06:58Yeah.
06:59Joel just kept saying that,
07:01no, Juliet's lying, Juliet's lying, Juliet's lying.
07:04And truly, to me, I believed I wasn't lying.
07:08But you were lying.
07:09No, so...
07:10Repeatedly.
07:11Again, I didn't feel like I was lying,
07:13because I truly, truly, truly did believe
07:17you said that you were a star.
07:19Yeah, but you added quite a few words onto it.
07:22I said, you don't see the star in me,
07:24and you added, of the show.
07:26But, I mean, at the end of the day,
07:28I feel fucking awful for it, Joel.
07:29I honestly feel fucking awful.
07:31I understand you say,
07:33it was a lot that week, and I was overwhelmed,
07:35and I misheard something,
07:36and that for sure happens, without doubt.
07:39Yeah.
07:39But what we saw from you wasn't really that.
07:41It was quite vicious the entire time.
07:43Disgusting.
07:43And it was really humiliating.
07:45It was really degrading.
07:46Mm-hmm.
07:47You threw in a C next Tuesday.
07:49You went for his manhood.
07:51Like, there was a lot going on
07:53from the minute you walked in.
07:55And so what did he do to say,
07:56he's a beep?
07:58To be honest, I don't see that word that big of a deal.
08:01Me and my mates say it all.
08:02But you didn't say to my mate.
08:04It wasn't like, hey mate.
08:05Juliette, it's the context in which you say it.
08:08Yeah, I know.
08:08You were saying it in a very aggressive, abusive way.
08:12Yeah.
08:13Yeah.
08:13What did I do to you that warranted that kind of treatment?
08:16Whether you think the C word is a big word or not,
08:20like, calling anyone,
08:21or saying that anyone has done something to you
08:23that has, like, wronged you,
08:25there has to be a reason why they've wronged you,
08:27or there has to be a reason why they're performative,
08:29but there's not been a single reason.
08:30Mm-hmm.
08:31That you've been able to explain.
08:34I remember at the wedding I was like,
08:37holy crap.
08:38I have got the biggest character I've ever met in my life,
08:42and I felt like day by day I was quiet,
08:46I was, you know, suffering a little bit internally
08:50because I just felt like it was a lot for me to handle.
08:52It was just every single day I was feeling less like myself,
08:59more caged, more not heard.
09:02Like, there's not even one thing to pinpoint it at all.
09:06Mm-hmm.
09:07Look, in all honesty, Julia,
09:09it did look like you sort of came through that door
09:11with just pure intent, which didn't really make sense,
09:15but I do think this unseen clip might explain some stuff.
09:19Okay.
09:21Today, you've come with fucking knives.
09:23I don't respect that, and I'm done today.
09:26I was just trying to get to the bottom.
09:27You can try again after you've apologised.
09:28Bye.
09:29Okay, okay, cool.
09:30Well, you know where to find me, and...
09:33All right, I'll see you in a bit.
09:41Bro, I'm now fucking pissed off.
09:43I'm pissed off.
09:45He's never spoken to a woman in his life before besides his mother.
09:48How he's now trying to, like, pin me up into being the villain?
09:50Done. I'm gonna fucking villainise him.
09:52I'll turn the whole entire group against him then.
09:55I'm, like, actually pissed off.
09:56I'm very, very angry.
10:00Yeah.
10:01The part that troubles me the most is,
10:03it was like a...
10:04There was a premeditation about what she was going to do.
10:07Like, it's, like, cold and calculated.
10:09It was...
10:10It was almost, like, bone-chilling, that.
10:11Can I ask?
10:13I think it was very intentional and very conscious.
10:15She knew what she was doing.
10:16I know, but when I walked into the dinner party,
10:19I didn't have any intention of having a blow-up
10:22until I felt triggered.
10:24But, Juliette, I think the important thing is,
10:26is watching that, you have said you have an intention
10:29to turn the entire group against Joel.
10:32And then that is what you enacted out at the dinner party.
10:35You got into the dinner party.
10:36You focused on one thing.
10:37You told people that he wanted to be the star of the show.
10:40And you created this fire against him.
10:43Sometimes I just can get so angry, and I'm just like,
10:46fuck this, you're done.
10:48In the bin.
10:49And then that's what I felt.
10:51Afterwards, when I cooled down,
10:54now I feel shit.
10:55Like, why did I react like that at all?
10:58Thought...
10:58Strange.
10:59Again...
11:00I don't know how you square that circle.
11:01I thought that you lied.
11:04I completely thought you lied.
11:06I mean, from your perspective now,
11:08does it make you question, I guess, your conflict style
11:12and how you react when you feel like you're under attack
11:15or you're in a fight?
11:16Because when you say, you said this,
11:18this is what you did.
11:19You're a liar.
11:20Take accountability.
11:21Like, all of that was coming from your mouth
11:23because of your perceived memory of something,
11:26which clearly wasn't the case.
11:29I did not cope.
11:31And I went explosive and you, you copped it.
11:34You fucking copped it.
11:36Do you now see the light in him?
11:40Or the star?
11:43It shines bright.
11:44He's a bright, shiny star.
11:46Well, Joel, you weren't the only one in the firing line tonight.
11:52Unfortunately and sadly, someone else was.
11:58He wants to sleep at the teddy bear at night.
12:00Fuck it, I'll give him kisses at the teddy bear.
12:03I think it's brave to be a 30-year-old man
12:06and admit you've got a teddy.
12:07Goodbye, teddy.
12:08We're not five.
12:09It's not hot.
12:10No girls going,
12:11ooh, that's so hot.
12:13Should we have sex tonight with teddy watching?
12:15It's just gross.
12:16I would have cut its head off.
12:18I would have on camera slid its throat.
12:20Oh, God.
12:21I would have thrown that bitch in the fucking ocean.
12:23He would have to come past me.
12:24Don't speak about teddy like that.
12:27Well, we can't have this conversation here
12:29without the star of the actual show, Teddy.
12:31He didn't handle that well.
12:32Teddy, come on out.
12:33Where's Teddy?
12:34Where is Teddy?
12:35Star of the show.
12:36Oh, shut up.
12:40Oh, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy.
12:43Oh, my God.
12:43If we don't win a Logie for this.
12:45That is one.
12:46Oh, Teddy.
12:48Teddy got turfed.
12:49Honestly, dumb truck.
12:50Teddy got dumb.
12:51Hurt Teddy.
12:52Do you want to put Teddy next to you?
12:54Can we get him?
12:55At least you match Teddy.
12:56You do match Teddy.
12:58Wow.
12:58Welcome, Teddy.
12:59I think I'm on Juliet's side.
13:01I don't know.
13:03I've changed everything I said.
13:05Look, Teddy, thank you.
13:06Do you want to meet Teddy?
13:07I don't want to touch it.
13:08Don't touch it.
13:08We don't know where Teddy's been.
13:09Teddy, thank you so much for joining us.
13:12How do you feel about what Joel has experienced on this show thus far?
13:17Laura's lost it.
13:17You're better on this, Laura.
13:18Anyway, am I getting a Logie for this?
13:20I don't know.
13:20No, you're getting fired.
13:22Not to rub salt into the wound, but let's get Australia to take a vote.
13:27What do you think?
13:28Red flag or green flag that Joel still sleeps with a Teddy?
13:33Head to Math's Instagram to cast your vote.
13:36Joel, Juliet and also Teddy.
13:38Green flag.
13:39I guess your journey, I mean, it isn't over yet.
13:41And honestly, I don't know how you guys are going to come back from where it is currently.
13:45But stranger things have happened here.
13:47So let's just wait and see.
13:49In the meantime, both of you stick around because there is still plenty more to come.
13:53Julia and Grayson may not have been the noisiest couple, but they were certainly very confusing
13:58for most people.
13:59They'll be joining us to hopefully answer some very burning questions that we have.
14:02Plus, John Aiken is back to unpack Gia's big week.
14:05And Stephanie is also going to be joining us to lift the lid on what it's really like
14:09to date our favourite man, Tyson.
14:12Well, this will come as no surprise to anybody, but I think it's pretty clear
14:15we all had some issues with Tyson.
14:17I could barely get through our very short conversation last week, let alone live with him,
14:23marry him, go on a honeymoon.
14:24For me, I feel like there'd be nothing worse.
14:26So Stephanie either has the patience of a saint or they are connecting on some level
14:31that we haven't yet seen.
14:34I mean, I think that they do have things that are in common and similar.
14:37They should do.
14:37I mean, obviously, Steph said multiple times that she finds him very attractive,
14:41but I think they connect on everything apart from the ambition part.
14:46I disagree. I think they, on paper, align.
14:49She said we tick a lot of the same boxes.
14:51I just think the volume is turned up on his.
14:54Well, we are going to bring her out, but before we do,
14:56I want to take a look back at Stephanie's and Tyson's journey so far.
14:59It's been interesting.
15:02I'm dating now to find the one.
15:04I want to make sure that she has the same beliefs, the same values
15:07and the same morals and principles as me.
15:09I wouldn't want a woman that's woke.
15:12Don't come at me with your woke shit.
15:14I think it's all gone too far.
15:16What would be a woke woman for you?
15:18A woman that's a complete feminist.
15:20I'm a feminist.
15:21I'm a that.
15:21Like, ugh.
15:22It's not me.
15:23A woman that hates Donald Trump.
15:25I personally like Trump.
15:26I reckon he's doing a great job.
15:28You know, it's taken something like Trump to come in and be like,
15:31but I'm putting a stop to this shit.
15:32I want a man at the house.
15:34I want to step more into my feminine and like, yeah,
15:36let someone else take control.
15:38Do you want to be house husband?
15:40You may as well ask me if I want to be a skirt around the house.
15:43I want a woman that's somewhat submissive.
15:47No, no, no.
15:47We don't live in the bloody 1960s anymore.
15:50You do bring a lot of masculinity to this relationship.
15:52I just have the traits of an independent, smart woman.
15:56It comes across so rude.
15:57It comes across so arrogant.
15:58I think you're rude.
15:59I haven't felt that connection with Steph at all.
16:01I'm going to let you into a secret.
16:04You're a very hard person to match.
16:06We see a highly compatible couple,
16:08and we just need you to start turning on to that.
16:11I essentially woke up this morning
16:12and said I really need to give this a red hot crack.
16:15And I've given myself seven days to really give it my 100% all.
16:19I like how I just kind of fit into, like, your embrace really nicely.
16:22But I just want to see you be a bit more in tune with what comes out of your mouth.
16:28And my wife should stay home, you know, cook, clean, look after my kids.
16:32You can be a mum and you can still have your business.
16:35Who says that you can't?
16:37My husband says I can't.
16:42I don't know which way's up.
16:43Watching that back, there is nothing redeeming.
16:46I mean, it's so hard.
16:47About who?
16:48About the whole experience that they're having as a couple.
16:50Like, anyway, there's a lot that we need to unpack.
16:52There is. I disagree.
16:53Well, let's get her out.
16:55Okay, it's already a very cosy couch,
16:56but we have a lot of questions for Steph,
16:58so let's get her out here.
17:10Hi.
17:11Hello.
17:12Hello.
17:13Hi, guys.
17:14Nice to see you.
17:15Wow, you look very...
17:16I'm clapping because anyone who is able to withstand that force...
17:20Steph, you got to say hi to Teddy?
17:21Hi.
17:22Welcome.
17:23Oh, yeah, don't forget Teddy.
17:24Teddy's here.
17:26You look hot.
17:27You want some hand sanitiser?
17:29Hang on.
17:30Red flag, green flag for Teddy.
17:31We're getting polls.
17:32You know, green flag, why not?
17:33Well said.
17:34I mean, Steph, we had Tyson on the couch here last week
17:36and that was a real doozy of an experience.
17:39Yeah.
17:40You seem to be holding your cool so much in this experiment thus far.
17:44How do you, I guess, deal with him constantly calling you masculine
17:49or being in your masculine?
17:51Like, you're very feminine.
17:52You're so feminine.
17:52You're ridiculously feminine.
17:53You're such a beautiful woman.
17:55I mean, that in itself is quite an insulting thing to be called.
17:58It was the first time I'd ever been called too masculine,
18:01so that was new for me.
18:03There are only so many times that you can say to me,
18:06I don't like you, you're too masculine, I'm not into you,
18:10you're not attractive, until you start to believe that stuff yourself.
18:13You know, it does get to a point that you start to think,
18:16Jesus, like, do I...
18:19You start to believe those things.
18:20Joel and Juliet, what was your impression
18:22or what was your take on what was happening between Steph and Tyson?
18:24Yeah, I just felt like Tyson, this bloke, is more rigid than an army barracks.
18:29Like, you can't really get to know him.
18:31Yep.
18:31Everything's, like, ice cold with Tyson.
18:33You know, like, it's like, he needs to open his heart, I think.
18:38You know?
18:39Juliet, as a woman that was in the experiment,
18:41how did the other women feel about him?
18:43Well, we all hated him.
18:44Yeah.
18:45When he called you temporary wife, I felt that pain for you.
18:49On paper, you matched up.
18:51Yeah.
18:51In real life, you didn't.
18:53Yeah.
18:53Was it because he was extreme and you weren't?
18:56Yeah.
18:56I mean, I'd never been in a relationship before,
18:58so I kind of...
19:00I kind of didn't know what I wanted,
19:02and I feel like going into the experiment,
19:05I always felt like saying, you know, I want a traditional relationship.
19:09I kind of feel like maybe I said those things
19:12because it felt like it was the right thing to say.
19:14And then, obviously, I was given Tyson,
19:16which is, like, the extreme version.
19:18Obviously, I know that there's a lot of traditional men out there
19:20and they're not all like that.
19:21And then, going through that with him, I realised, okay, no,
19:24this is not what I want.
19:25There has been some confusion because, you know,
19:28your views coming into this experiment were similar
19:31and even Tyson had this to say.
19:34So, I've spoken publicly about the anti-woke stuff
19:37and Steph supposedly has the same opinion as me in that regard.
19:43But, tonight, I noticed she wanted to distance herself away from me
19:46in that regard.
19:47I think she didn't want to dive too headfirst in that conversation
19:50because she didn't want to get a bad reputation or a bad image.
19:54So, sometimes, it even makes me wonder
19:56if she's here for the right intentions
19:57because I feel like she's so focused about her image
20:00and about business and about real estate
20:03that, essentially, she might not want to say anything to offend anyone.
20:08Any truth to what Tyson's saying?
20:10I mean, I think when it comes to, like, you know,
20:12political kinds of discussions, I just think
20:15you need to think about how your words impact other people.
20:18But is it true, though, the similar values and views?
20:22To some extent, yes.
20:24Okay, yeah, we've both mentioned Trump.
20:26You know, there are things about Trump that I do agree on
20:28and there are definitely things that I do not agree on.
20:31Tyson, he is very extreme
20:34and it's his views, his way, that's it.
20:38There's no room for movement.
20:39I think the interesting thing is
20:40is you are the unlikely feminist that's come out of this.
20:43You know, I know at the start you said, like,
20:44I'm, you know, all of this people, feminism, whatever it was,
20:47but it was a point of something that you hated.
20:50I would never say I'm anti-feminist.
20:52I just wouldn't because of what I do and where I am in my life.
20:56I think I'm just not into the, like, extremities of things.
20:59But, of course, absolutely I believe in equality and...
21:02Yeah. The reality is, you are a feminist.
21:05Yeah.
21:05You're just not that version of it
21:06that's yelling on the internet necessarily.
21:08I'm just not out there screaming, waving my flag.
21:10I was so impressed by it.
21:12Every time, yeah, every time you've talked about
21:14having some sort of ambition as a woman
21:16or having the choice as a woman,
21:18that's the whole point of it,
21:20is women having the ability to have choice.
21:22Yeah.
21:22And that's what Tyson lacks
21:24and that's what was so enraging when he was on this couch
21:26because he didn't understand that women
21:29would even want to have a choice
21:30to live a different life that wasn't submissive.
21:32He pretended to.
21:33He was like, they can have a choice.
21:35He's like, they can have a hobby
21:36or if they want to stay home,
21:37but the next sentence would be like,
21:38I want my wife to stay home.
21:39He contradicts himself a lot.
21:41I think he has these ideas of what he wants,
21:43but then he is also conscious of, you know,
21:46if what comes out of my mouth right now,
21:47you know, how are people going to think about that?
21:49I don't know if he wants.
21:51To be fair, he didn't show any of that
21:53when he was on this couch.
21:54Yeah.
21:54Look, Steph, we don't know what is in store,
21:57what's going to happen.
21:58I mean, it doesn't look great at the moment,
21:59that's for sure,
22:00but look, you've certainly learned a lot about yourself
22:01in this short amount of time.
22:03I have.
22:03On the experiment.
22:04Yeah.
22:05And you still have so much more to go.
22:07I can't imagine how you're going to handle it.
22:09We're all backing you
22:10and we want you to keep on standing up
22:12for all the women out there.
22:13Thanks, guys.
22:14The feminist that we didn't know we needed,
22:15here she is.
22:17Thank you all for joining us, guys.
22:18Thanks, guys. That was fun.
22:19Thank you so much.
22:20Well, now it is time for It's a Match.
22:23So we have collected the funniest,
22:25the most savage,
22:25most absolutely unhinged takes
22:27from the internet this week
22:28and Stella and Phillip are here
22:30to play this little game of Guess Who.
22:38Um, blank has more abs than brain cells.
22:43Oh!
22:45I don't actually want to say that name
22:47because I'll take offense to that.
22:49Are you going to lock in Phillip?
22:51I'm Phillip.
22:51I'm locking Phillip.
22:53I'm going to reluctantly...
22:54I'm going to lock in...
22:55I'm going to lock in Phillip.
22:57No!
22:58You are!
22:58You're wasn't me!
22:59You're wasn't me!
23:00Because I didn't want to piss this person off.
23:02I'm going to say Scotty Too Hotty.
23:04Scotty Too Hotty.
23:05Yeah!
23:07You are hot, Scott.
23:08Let's go.
23:09Alright, on you, Scotty.
23:10Right.
23:11Blank could be kissing another woman
23:13and he would convince her
23:15he's just performing CPR.
23:17Okay.
23:17I'm going to say...
23:18Look, it has to be Danny.
23:20It is Danny.
23:21Because he's very convincing.
23:22Are you my ride or die?
23:24Are you my ride or die?
23:26It's a Danny.
23:27Danny.
23:27Yes.
23:28On you, Danny.
23:29Are you my ride or die?
23:30Yeah, yeah.
23:33Blank's personality can really dry up a girl.
23:38Who's personality?
23:39Steve?
23:40Lock in older Steve.
23:42Steve.
23:42Silver Fox.
23:43No.
23:43Who?
23:44What?
23:45Dry nuts.
23:45Oh, okay.
23:46I know exactly who.
23:47Chris.
23:50No.
23:52Tyson.
23:52Oh my God.
23:54Of course.
23:55Of course.
23:55Of course.
23:56He's not even in our radar.
23:58Sorry, Chris.
23:59He's not even in our radar.
24:00I'm going to have to text him later.
24:01Yeah.
24:01Right.
24:03Anyway.
24:04Okay.
24:04Blank looks like a blend between a 2B pencil and the year 10 history teacher.
24:10There was something about him being a pencil, Andrew.
24:14Someone said I look like a pencil.
24:15You know, I agree, like a 2B or a HB pencil.
24:18Yeah, absolutely.
24:18And you do look like a history teacher.
24:20You reckon?
24:21Yeah.
24:22I could, I could, I could.
24:23You said we're talking about the pyramids?
24:24Philip, Philip.
24:25Yes.
24:26High five.
24:27You know what?
24:27New Korea unlocked.
24:29Okay.
24:31I'd never seen bigger lips than Gia's.
24:34And then came.
24:37They're, they're, they're, they're.
24:39I'm baffled.
24:39They're, they're the only ones.
24:40Like, who's got bigger lips than Gia?
24:42It could, it could.
24:43It might not be, not, but, hey, it might not be one of the, the, the women.
24:46It might be one of the fellas.
24:47Who's got big lips as a bloke?
24:48Joel.
24:49I'm going to say Joel.
24:50No!
24:52Really?
24:52Uh, who else is lippy?
24:54It must be Cowboy Chris then.
24:56Cowboy Chris.
24:57Cowboy Chris.
24:57Cowboy Chris.
24:58Yeah.
24:59Actually, he does.
25:00He's got masks lit.
25:01Yeah.
25:01I know.
25:02Yeah.
25:03I think we did well.
25:04I think we did very well.
25:05Hey, till next time.
25:06It's in work.
25:12They actually nailed that.
25:13Yeah.
25:13Well, look, speaking of games, it feels as though we have been playing a game of cat and mouse
25:17with Gia.
25:17Call us crazy, but we did invite Gia yet again, and she accepted, and once again at
25:22the very last minute, she cancelled.
25:25Here we are.
25:25Yeah, yeah.
25:26Well, what's that saying?
25:27Fool us once.
25:28Shame on you.
25:29Fool us twice.
25:29Shame on us.
25:30So that's been three times.
25:32Uh, what do you think that means?
25:33Shame on everyone at this point.
25:35Yeah?
25:35No, I think it means this is a really hard place to take accountability for behaviour.
25:40Yeah.
25:40And I don't think that we're seeing that at all.
25:42And Gia is ground zero when you kind of pick back who is doing it.
25:47Yeah.
25:48Who is being set up to say different things.
25:50Yeah.
25:50Gia is there at the base of every single one.
25:52Well, look, we did want Gia here because there has been a lot of this back and forth
25:56in the media with her and Bec, and it felt fair to hear her side of the story.
25:59Everybody should get their side of the story.
26:01But here we are again.
26:03So I've made an executive decision.
26:05We're going to unpack it ourselves.
26:07Here is a snippet from a radio interview Gia has done after Bec came on the show the other
26:12night.
26:13Gia!
26:14We woke up this morning to your DMs going, let me on, let me on.
26:17I need to sort this out.
26:19So you heard the interview with Bec.
26:21Please tell us all the things that she didn't say or what she got wrong.
26:24Oh, God.
26:24She's lied.
26:25This whole thing with Alyssa, the facts are is that she knew her from Adelaide.
26:29I have screenshots, which I can send to you guys so you guys can put it online, where
26:34she has said, hey, I know Alyssa, this, this, this, this, this.
26:38She did this.
26:39I know this about it.
26:40Really disgusting things about Alyssa.
26:41And me and Brooke are in the chat going, oh, OK, wow.
26:44So should we not like her?
26:45Should we back you?
26:46We're friends with you.
26:47So we just blindly backed her, which again, was so wrong of me and Brooke to not just
26:51meet Alyssa and find out for ourselves what she was like.
26:54But she started the whole thing with Alyssa.
26:55Like, you can't sit here now and go, oh, well, no, Gia and Scott rang and this.
26:59No, we didn't.
27:00We know she's a drama farmer.
27:03Like, she is literally.
27:05I love it.
27:05Can you just make that up?
27:06Yeah, I think it's good.
27:07A drama farmer.
27:07Out there, play out on the drama.
27:09It's also the, they made me not like her.
27:13They told me not to like her.
27:14They said this about her.
27:15Yeah.
27:15So, you know, to be like, I had to hate her because I heard this from this person,
27:19from this person, from the dog down the street.
27:21Personally, I don't think this excuse of somebody else made me do it flies.
27:25I don't think it's good.
27:26If you want to judge someone, judge it yourself.
27:29But nonetheless, the team has found us some unseen footage of Gia's first impression of
27:34Alyssa from the hen's night.
27:35Now, there's nothing I love more than a little bit of unseen footage.
27:38So, roll the tape.
27:41Alyssa looked like an absolute f***ed fool, like a disco ball.
27:44It was ridiculous.
27:45It was over the top.
27:46She came in and was like, I'm the best one.
27:49Everybody's going to listen to me and shut the f*** up.
27:52And it was too much.
27:54And she's like, I'm too much to a lot of guys.
27:56Yeah, we see f***ing why.
27:58You are, babe.
27:59You are.
28:00Like, I bet you're getting ghosted.
28:02But I get why her and Bec are like, oh, we know each other from Adelaide.
28:05So cute.
28:06We're friends from Adelaide.
28:07Yeah, f***ing, I know.
28:09I can see it.
28:09Weird bitches.
28:10Like, I see you guys stick together.
28:14Fine, I'm not part of that clique and I don't want to be.
28:16It is very clear from that.
28:18Yeah.
28:18That Gia had made her mind up about Alyssa from the very first meeting.
28:22From the get go, she had venom and she won't come on here and tell us otherwise.
28:26So it's hard.
28:27And I guess the big thing with Gia, it's the repeat behaviour.
28:30I mean, you know, if it was one thing and it was, we sat here and unpacked it one time,
28:34but it's every single episode, it's every single week.
28:36And there's been so many moments that maybe, you know, would have gone unnoticed.
28:41But it was things like when Brooke had left, Gia then saddling up to Bec because she needed
28:46to have someone in her corner in her camp.
28:48Like, she's so quick to attach herself to someone that will give her a buddy and a pass to be
28:54able to then attack other people.
28:55Support.
28:56She's fine.
28:56Yeah, absolutely.
28:57And it just shows like, are you here for a relationship?
28:59Are you here for airtime?
29:00Because right now you're getting a lot of airtime, but it's for really bad reasons.
29:03Yeah, I wish we could ask her.
29:04So Gia, if you are watching, the floor is yours whenever you're ready.
29:08It's an open invitation.
29:10Would actually love to hear what you have to say.
29:11Girl drama aside, Gia and Scott had some conflict of their own this week.
29:15Scott's mate came out of the gates pretty hard at Meet the Family.
29:18And the one and only John Aitken is going to give us his take.
29:21It's time for Aitken's Insights.
29:24Can I just stop you there?
29:25No, no.
29:26Alright, we've heard enough.
29:29How are we team?
29:30Hello.
29:31Great to see you as always.
29:33John, welcome.
29:34It's good to be here.
29:35Yeah.
29:36Plenty to talk about.
29:37Well it was Meet the Family this week and obviously we see that every year.
29:40What is making it so pivotal for all the couples?
29:43Well I think for the couples, you know, they're in this bubble when they're in the experiment.
29:47And so when they do get a chance to see family and friends, they can essentially reconnect with them.
29:53They know them really well.
29:55And so it can broaden perspectives.
29:57It means so much more also when it comes from someone outside.
30:01So the experts, you'll say certain things.
30:03Like Stephen's a great example with his brother.
30:05His brother said, come on mate, stop holding back.
30:07And he really took that on board.
30:09That is a great point.
30:10What you're saying is that sometimes there are more important people than the experts on the show.
30:15Who would have thought?
30:15It doesn't sit well with me, but it's the truth.
30:18And so they're getting a different perspective from people that can really land for them.
30:22Well this week we did see Scott's friends Matt and Paige ask some pretty hard-hitting questions.
30:28I was really uncomfortable actually.
30:29Let's take a look.
30:34Is Gia a better version of your ex?
30:39That was a bit full on.
30:43How do you compare to his ex?
30:45Like what the fuck is going on?
30:48I'll say this.
30:49If you want to be controversial, I'll give it back because that's what I'm like.
30:53I don't think you can compare because I would never start an OnlyFans.
30:57And put that out there for $8.
30:59So there's the comparison there.
31:01I feel like I'm a wife.
31:02So you are a better version.
31:05I wouldn't compare, yeah.
31:07Well she doesn't have to compete with anybody.
31:09She's her own person.
31:11So, John.
31:12Oh, I feel awkward.
31:13Yeah.
31:14So am I.
31:14You don't think that's appropriate for Matt to compare Gia to Scott's ex?
31:19No, it's not.
31:20But this is what you get on this experiment is that you're not just dealing with the intimate
31:25couple that are trying to get the fairytale, you're involving all their family and friends.
31:30So you're getting new characters that will have agendas.
31:33And these two are really wanting to see what is Gia going to do when we put her under fire?
31:40You know, is she going to arc up, which is what happens?
31:42Or is she going to just smile and try and be a pleaser?
31:46So you reveal a lot when you meet family and friends.
31:49How do you think Scott should have reacted in that situation?
31:52Well, I think he should have created a boundary.
31:54And this show is all about boundaries.
31:56You know, when do you air dirty laundry?
31:59You know, when do you say to your friends, hey, ease off, back off?
32:03And this is a situation where he should have just really come in hard and created a boundary
32:08for Gia saying, I've got your back and you come before these friends.
32:12But he didn't do that.
32:14This thing about comparison, should anyone ever be compared to an ex?
32:18Because we saw it also with Steph and Tyson.
32:21Yeah, it's not great because you've got to realise that these couples have been matched.
32:25They don't have any history together.
32:27So they're innately insecure.
32:29But you also don't want to be similar to someone's ex.
32:33It didn't work out.
32:34Yes.
32:34Like why would you want to go into the same relationship, the same bottle, the same top?
32:38Yes, absolutely.
32:39So it's not good to be talking about exes because they just don't have the history to
32:43really support one another through that.
32:46And it creates even more insecurities in them.
32:49John, thank you so much for coming and joining us on this couch.
32:52We love the insights.
32:53Love it.
32:54Look forward to the next time.
32:55Well, Julia and Grayson are joining us in just a minute.
32:58And I don't know about you guys, but I had such high hopes for this couple.
33:01Their wedding day was amazing.
33:02We all thought it was going to work out.
33:04But after that, well, look, it just seems like they were on two completely different planets.
33:08Let's take a look back at their journey so far.
33:10I don't know if I'm going to be matched with a man or a woman.
33:15It isn't really about someone's gender.
33:19It's about the connection that I have with them.
33:25Hi.
33:25Yes.
33:27I'm happy.
33:32Were you happy, obviously?
33:35Oh, yeah.
33:35We're stoked.
33:36We've been having such a good time together.
33:38This is a very interesting way to wake up.
33:44I'd like to see it progress into a more romantic relationship.
33:48I feel powerless over my position in this relationship.
33:53What's the greatest moment you've had on the footy field?
33:57It's intimacy week.
33:58This is designed to help you move into the next stage of your relationship.
34:02At school, were you bullied?
34:04Those questions were a bit of a cop-out, to be honest.
34:07I'm asking for you to acknowledge what I'm saying.
34:10Acknowledge what?
34:10I just feel like all the conversations are about you and what you need.
34:16What about what I need, Jules?
34:18Because you haven't asked me once about what I need.
34:21Oh, God.
34:23Dear Grey, we have grown so much separately and together.
34:27However, that burning desire doesn't seem to be growing.
34:31What?
34:33What is this?
34:34I actually thought we were making some progress in our relationship.
34:40I got told from Gia that Jules said that she wished that she had been matched with a woman.
34:47No, no, no.
34:48Grayson's coming back.
34:48I didn't say that.
34:49I did not say that.
34:50My house are.
34:50Does my bisexuality have, has that got a, have you got a problem with that?
34:54No, absolutely not.
34:55I've just, I've just been told that you've said somewhere that you weren't.
34:58And I'm saying that they, she's saying that it didn't happen.
35:00I think Julia is all words.
35:03It's just listen to respond.
35:05How could have I supported you more?
35:07Well, you could have been present.
35:08You could have invested your time and energy into the marriage that we have.
35:12We are, we're married.
35:13I am exhausted.
35:14Yeah, I think we're, we're both exhausted.
35:20But with that, I am saying leave.
35:22Yeah.
35:23I think for me, my time's up here, so I'll choose to leave.
35:28Oh, Julia and Grayson.
35:31I think I, like the rest of Australia, had such high hopes for you at your wedding.
35:35Oh, I feel teary watching that.
35:37Yeah.
35:38It brings up so much.
35:39Do you feel as though you did invest?
35:41Oh, 100% I felt like I invested.
35:43I gave it my all.
35:44I took on feedback.
35:45I, you know, heard what Grayson's needs were.
35:50Yeah, when it comes to needs, I, I, I, I guess I have to address that.
35:56I didn't, like off camera, I didn't feel like there was any time.
36:00Like, I feel like you, you retracted a lot.
36:03Soon as the cameras were gone, you'd sort of go, go, go and do your own thing.
36:07I felt like that too, to be honest, because often he would go to the gym for four hours.
36:11I didn't call him out.
36:13Four hours?
36:14Yeah.
36:15That's, that's false.
36:16Well, this is the thing.
36:17I, I've got my reality too.
36:20And I often felt like he wasn't really interested in me.
36:23Yeah.
36:24Do you feel like Julia gave it 110%?
36:27I think that Jules really avoided some of the, the, the, the difficult stuff.
36:33I think she may have danced around some of the things where I felt like I just geared up and
36:38dove straight in.
36:39That, that's my reality.
36:40The truth is it wasn't working.
36:42And so I guess we were both just trying to cope and get through, or I can only speak for
36:47myself.
36:47Jules, answer, answer this question.
36:49When we weren't filming, what did you do?
36:51Where'd you go?
36:52Because you weren't in the apartment.
36:53Well, I don't know where I was.
36:54You weren't where we lived.
36:54Where was I then?
36:55I mean, we were there for six weeks together.
36:57So it's not a hard question.
36:58I was either at yoga or I was in the building.
37:01No, that's, that's, in the building.
37:01In the building.
37:01Okay, exactly.
37:02So where in the building were you?
37:03Well, there were times where we were having arguments and I was in another apartment.
37:07For the, for the month we were in there?
37:09We were arguing the whole time?
37:10We argued a lot, actually, yeah.
37:12Julia wasn't there.
37:14So when I needed something, she wasn't there.
37:16She wasn't physically present for me to actually bring up my needs.
37:19You wouldn't bring up your needs.
37:20And I think we've seen that, that there was a pattern that I would often find out later.
37:24Actually watching it back, I would see what Grayson was actually saying in his voxies.
37:29And I had no idea.
37:29No, it's because the voxies were, were people actually asking me how I'm feeling.
37:34They'll actually ask me what I need.
37:35But I asked you lots of questions in my Ultimate Fantasy and you didn't like that.
37:38So I feel like I can't win.
37:41Damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't.
37:43I just would love some, I'd love you to take some accountability.
37:47I feel like you think there's more going on here.
37:50I feel like you're insinuating that there's more.
37:52Julia moved out of our apartment three days into moving into that place.
37:57That's not true.
37:58It is 100% true.
37:59No, it's not.
38:00We were in different rooms because of the snoring.
38:03Jules, you moved out of our apartment.
38:06Right.
38:06I spent the majority of our relationship on my own.
38:09Okay.
38:09If you were to go back to your own apartment, were you having dinners together?
38:13Were you still spending time when the cameras stopped?
38:16What did that look like?
38:18Yeah, we, I was there.
38:20I was, um...
38:23I mean...
38:26I'm sorry, but I just, I disagree.
38:29I wholeheartedly, categorically disagree.
38:31Yeah.
38:32Well, I think we disagree on a lot.
38:33We also saw at the last dinner party that Bec dropped a bomb on your relationship, but we
38:39didn't see all of the fallout, so let's take a look at what didn't make the episode.
38:45You asked me, who were you expecting to see at the end of the aisle?
38:48And I was wondering, what is he insinuating?
38:51The words that came out of my mouth, were you hoping for a male or a female?
38:55I wasn't insinuating anything.
38:56That's the thing.
38:57I'm clear in my, in my, my dialogue.
38:59And so I'm not.
39:00No, you are vague.
39:01You are vague.
39:02No, it's called, it's called nuance.
39:04No, nuance, nuance.
39:05You know what?
39:06That is vague.
39:07When we're speaking about emotions, it is not black or white.
39:10And that is why we don't work.
39:12Because you are yes or no black and white.
39:14Because when it comes to emotions, you should understand how you feel.
39:17I do understand how I feel.
39:19Well, we...
39:19We don't see eye to eye.
39:21We are not on the same page.
39:23And that is why I've written the letter.
39:26You've written the letter because you didn't want to have a conversation.
39:28You criticize everything I do.
39:30No, I don't.
39:30I feel so unseen.
39:31I feel so unheard.
39:32I feel so misrepresented in this connection.
39:34How can you feel that way when I've given you the space you need,
39:37when I've supported you through all your issues that you've had in here?
39:40Yeah, and you know what?
39:40Because you have a, you have a, you tip, you have a list where you keep score
39:44of everything that you've done.
39:46And I've done nothing.
39:47You've said that to me so many times.
39:48You haven't brought anything to...
39:50Like, mate, you told me...
39:51I've brought nothing to the table.
39:52You told me you haven't shown up for me.
39:53All you've shown up for...
39:54No, no, no, you haven't.
39:55You haven't expressed your needs and then later...
39:57Because I haven't had a, I haven't had a platform too,
39:59because it's been all about you.
40:01That's the way it's been.
40:02I couldn't disagree more.
40:03That's the way it's been.
40:04That is a lot to watch.
40:06And I've...
40:07I mean, it looks like when you see that as a spectator, like that tension must have been brewing
40:11under the surface for so long.
40:13Oh, um, that's really hard to watch.
40:16Um, but yeah, absolutely.
40:17There was a lot bubbling under the surface and I feel like there was...
40:21You can see it.
40:21There's a lot of frustration.
40:22Yeah.
40:22There was a lot of resentment on both ends.
40:25A lot of...
40:25Both of us not feeling understood.
40:27I was being told all the time I wasn't being direct and so I just went for it, didn't I?
40:32You're pretty direct.
40:33No, but I mean, you're both direct in that.
40:34I mean, Grayson, how do you feel watching that?
40:36Yeah, it takes me back to how I felt.
40:39I love that you own the fact that you're a bisexual woman and, you know, I'm someone that would celebrate
40:44that for you.
40:45I didn't feel it was celebrated at all.
40:47Because you said if you were brutally honest, you think I wanted it.
40:49Yeah, that's just...
40:50Yeah, that's me being honest about what I thought.
40:53That's all there is to it.
40:54Do you think it wasn't celebrated because you were hoping it was you?
40:57Yeah, of course.
40:58You know, like I've said a couple of times, my mate came on and found the love of his life.
41:02And that's...
41:03I was hoping to walk out of here with nothing short of that.
41:06Yeah.
41:06But it's tough.
41:09It's really tough.
41:10We loved watching you guys.
41:12We are sorry it didn't work out.
41:14Where are we at?
41:15Are you seeing someone?
41:16And this is to both of you.
41:17Like, have you found love?
41:20I actually read that you're seeing someone.
41:21Nah, that's...
41:22Oh, okay.
41:24Nah, nah, not for me.
41:25I'm just doing my thing.
41:27And yeah, I'm open to it.
41:29I mean...
41:31You want it?
41:31I hope so.
41:32I hope so sometime, you know.
41:33I don't reckon you're going to be single for long, Grace.
41:35And after everyone watching this to know that you're still...
41:37I'm sure the DMs are wide open, everybody.
41:38Actually, they are.
41:39Actually, I have a friend I'd love to set you up with.
41:41But let's talk about that off camera.
41:42It's a teddy.
41:44No!
41:45No!
41:45Right backstage.
41:46What about you, Julia?
41:47Yes, I have a partner.
41:49Do you?
41:49I do, I do, yes.
41:51Two months after the experiment finished, I went to do a singing lesson with this particular
41:58woman.
41:58It's a woman.
41:59Yeah.
41:59And I went...
42:01And apparently I'm not a very good singer, so that's that.
42:04But I realised I didn't really want her to be my teacher.
42:06And yeah, we've been seeing each other since then.
42:08How do you transition that from being like student to...
42:12It wasn't even a student.
42:13What do I do here?
42:14It's like a student that sucks.
42:16It's like you suck for a lesson, so...
42:19We are so happy for you that you found love.
42:22Not so much you, Grayson, but we'll work on it.
42:23We're going to find you one.
42:24Don't worry.
42:25Step into our office.
42:26Yeah.
42:27Thank you both for coming and having the courage to be together.
42:30Appreciate your time.
42:31And thanks, Gray.
42:32For everything.
42:33So lovely.
42:33It was hard, but...
42:34Yeah.
42:35I hope we'll be friends.
42:36Absolutely.
42:37Yeah.
42:37Guys, this is like you peeped me up on you.
42:41So are you going to stay or leave?
42:43Well.
42:44Well, I have to say this season's commitment ceremonies are absolutely gripping,
42:48and by the look of this little sneak peek,
42:50Sundays is going to be huge.
42:55All we are hearing are excuses.
43:00You were giving me devil eye.
43:02You should apologize to me.
43:04Always honest.
43:05I certainly understand what that means.
43:07And I definitely feel like I have times.
43:08Okay?
43:08Are you even listening to what I'm saying?
43:09I've been crying so much.
43:09Don't speak over Alessandra.
43:12Show some respect.
43:13I'm not against gay people.
43:14I just feel like that whole topic can really be pushed on us.
43:19Having awareness is not pushing anything on you.
43:22What?
43:27Every time I think I'm ready for the next week, I'm absolutely not.
43:30But that is all we have time for tonight.
43:31But fear not, because we'll be back to feed your maths addiction again next week.
43:35And with the retreat on the horizon, it is set to be an all-you-can-eat buffet.
43:40I love a buffet.
43:41Catch it all on 9 and 9 now from Sunday to Wednesday.
43:44And we'll be here same time next week, straight after the dinner party on Stan.
43:48And remember, just when you think you've seen it all, you'll see even more here.
43:52Catch you next week.
43:53Bye-bye.
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