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00:09hello everyone and welcome this is the traders official podcast my name is bob the drag queen
00:16i'm boston rob i gotta tell you bob it feels so good to be back in the castle with you
00:22yes and
00:23we can work together this time but now anyway listen while we're on the same side you're gonna
00:29get to hear our perspective because we're coming from two different places right i'm here as like
00:32a fan someone who got to be in the castle someone who was misunderstood someone who maybe misspoke
00:37or talk when they shouldn't have and someone who brought the looks honey and i'll bring this
00:42strategist point of view i'll break down the moves the psychology behind it we have a unique perspective
00:48because we're not just talking it we've actually lived it we've been in those castle walls yes yes
00:53i've been on those grounds i have i still have nightmares uh-huh i not so much if you missed
00:59season three and you don't know how we know each other go back and watch it it's on peacock but
01:05for
01:05those of you that are stubborn bob and i let's say we were both traders and we had a uniquely
01:11different
01:12experience yes we were some of the first trader on trader of violence it was one of the most ferocious
01:19nail-biting just spit fire round tables of all time but somehow we managed to come out as friends
01:25somehow after it we put the past behind us and for now for this podcast for you guys only we're
01:33here
01:33mending fences to be clear i'm the one who did the forgiving and on that note that's true i can't
01:40argue
01:40with them well we got a big episode for you today we're going to be going over episode one yes
01:47episode
01:47two yes and episode three baby this episode is big and beefy and she is not on olympic honey she
01:52is
01:52thick and juicy so sit back relax and baby enjoy this on your long drive honey because we're gonna
01:58be with you for a hot minute we're gonna have special guests yes and we're gonna talk fashion my
02:04favorite topic i may or may not be here for that it was his request he demanded we go over
02:12the fashion
02:12and i said it's not my thing but i'll i'll join you and the truth is we really don't know
02:16how
02:17this is gonna go but stay tuned hopefully it's entertaining by the way just so you guys know
02:22this is your spoiler alert go watch episodes one through three we're about to spoil it all so if
02:28you've not watched and you don't want to spoil do not listen to this this is your only chance
02:34no crying about it later scram now let's get into it they arrive at night which is it's already
02:41spooky enough as it is yeah like it's already spooky never at night they're lighting the building
02:45on fire those poor peacocks but alan comes in and he announces off rip there's gonna be a secret
02:53traitor and i cannot believe he's keeping secrets from us the audience if i was gonna be a traitor i
02:58would that's not how i'd want to find out at the choosing ceremony everyone's blindfolded here
03:03everyone's just looking directly at you like that sounds exhausting if you're standing there if you're
03:11watching this go down what are you thinking are you wanting to get picked are you not wanting to
03:16get picked in front of everyone else it doesn't feel like anyone got a concrete read on anyone else
03:23based on alan showing them in front of them there was something suspicious to me about the way colton
03:28walked away i thought it was colton by this point so listen bob i know how you felt when i
03:34was added as
03:35an additional traitor but how would you feel if there was an additional traitor that was a secret
03:41traitor not only would i not want to deal with a secret traitor i would not want to be the
03:46secret
03:46traitor you have no allies you are working by yourself it sounds stressful for everyone involved
03:53yeah i i agree i feel like i gotta ask you something because i don't know i wasn't in on
03:59the
03:59traitor selection they picked me while i was out in the woods when alan's walking around like a berry
04:06like you i'll take this one wesley no thank you derrick no thank you but when alan's walking around
04:14is it nerve-wracking you have that blindfold on you're listening to every sound what's it like
04:20you don't even know when you're sitting there and alan's well first of all he is i'm saying he's
04:24closing the circle he is he is lapping that bitch he's got to be walking at least at least a
04:29quarter
04:29mile around you all he passes you so many times and baby when he grazes your shoulder you feel it
04:36from the bottom of your feet it rushes up through you and you have to do everything to stop it
04:41from
04:41leaping out of your mouth because you're so excited you're so nervous did someone feel you move next to
04:46you oh my god my hat is big did my hat move did my feathers cause a breeze what's going
04:50on here is
04:51anyone going to be on to me and then you have to take off those blindfolds and look people in
04:55the
04:55eye and everyone they're all mean mugging especially tom sandoval yeah tom it's it's stressful but it's
05:04it's exhilarating it feels really really really good and you're empowered let's talk about people who
05:11were chosen candace from real housewives of potomac is chosen lisa renna from real housewives of
05:15beverly hills is chosen and then rob from love island they are chosen to be the
05:21front-facing traders to the camera two housewives off the jump so like i said go after the housewives
05:28no one ever listened to me and now we got two of them in the turret yeah no gamers in
05:34the turret
05:34this season who do you think is going to be the best um trader out of the three of them
05:38from what
05:39i've seen so far i like rob i like rob are from love island i think his demeanor is it's
05:48calm enough
05:48he has shown to be smart and intelligent and looking forward and i think he has a little bit
05:56of the like oh i'm too dumb swag going that it works yeah he's good and he's handsome i gotta
06:03tell
06:03you when you're handsome you can get away with a lot in the house you really can't i i hate
06:06to say
06:06it but it's true when you're a handsome man you can just get away with a lot of mess in
06:12that house
06:12i don't know if i'm supposed to agree or disagree there so i'm just gonna shake my head and be
06:16like
06:18but candace is so bold and i see lisa like so out there and needs to be that attention and
06:26i think
06:27that's going to be her downfall so when they're in the turret the traders all agree to something
06:31i want to think about it you want me to think about it yeah i want you know what you
06:35think about
06:36i know where you're going with this but go ahead i'll think about it they said can we all agree
06:42to
06:42no backstabbing right that's a pretty good rule yeah who do you think they were talking about why
06:47do you think they had that conversation i don't know what could maybe something from uk or australia
06:51i didn't watch australia maybe something didn't australia it must have been australia those guys down
06:56under they really they're getting each other i mean obviously we had a tumultuous every trader voted
07:01for every trader during our season every trader left under the under the vote of another trader
07:05there was no talking in the turret one one table my god no shade to carolyn wyger but god damn
07:12that
07:12lady would just sit up there and just not say a word we're like talk to us let's get into
07:18this
07:18first mission so they're on these three rowboats they're red green and white right first of all
07:23the the red boat is the first one out and the other boats are just stuck they can they can
07:28stuck on
07:29the ground yeah they got in the boat before they launched it they should have launched it first
07:33then get in first of all these missions are hard yes physically grueling number one you're in scotland
07:39we filmed the show in the summer june it's 40 degrees and raining freezing and these challenges
07:46like these boats they're like made like i think they're viking made they're made by viking big heavy
07:52oars like to move these things it's not easy at all and then you have to realize y'all we
07:58are working
07:58people have a lot of different physical abilities right we have football players we have housewives
08:03we have 70 year old women we have figure skaters you are you're gonna tell me this show is so
08:11unserious you're gonna tell me a 70 year old woman to compete with an olympic athlete the irony is
08:19that johnny the olympic athlete was the first one into the lock and let me tell you from what i
08:24saw
08:25he stuck the landing yes a triple axel right to the bottom of the lock and so you have to
08:29go into
08:30the water you have to decipher which caskets have an x on them and which caskets have a dollar sign
08:35on them right right bring the dollar sign casket back drop it in you get some money and then you
08:39take away someone's shield that's the twist this season now to get a shield you have to navigate
08:46some other there's like a secondary thought in the process of the mission now like from the jump you
08:53realize you're gonna have to establish relationships and alliances to keep yourself safe in the game
08:58this season i think uh ron was the first one to have a casket in his grave michael rapaport is
09:03really not okay with having a casket in his grave he's really upset he's upset that he put it in
09:08and then the very last second they were trying to get it in portia's grave like at the last second
09:13which i thought this is the first time that we've seen where you don't make it under the wire usually
09:16we're making like three two one always i never see i was like for sure they're gonna make it with
09:21one
09:21second left alan says nope wasn't in on time based on what based on the clock
09:29so candace straight up tells portia that michael rapaport said let's put it in the housewives
09:36graves and the reaction on both of them is they can't believe it's incredulous
09:42oh i got something to say because i heard i heard that my casket was almost put in there
09:50so how that happened when we were in our boat michael was like who we gonna who we gonna put
09:56the caskets in let's do the housewives and i was like no he has to aim for the housewives
10:02everyone has heard him gunning for housewives so i want to sort of throw a little bit of gas on
10:07michael's fire he did not say put it in one of the housewives and i said uh-uh he is
10:13creating chaos
10:13stirring up noise he is a perfect distraction for us
10:19so we're back in the castle oh i love when i tell you i love back in the castle back
10:24in the
10:24castles when the show really happens so then portia gets back to the castle she tells michael
10:29rapaport that michael says who said it let's i'm not having it i want to confront her right now
10:35okay i want to have this conversation because yeah you just told me i said let's get a housewife
10:41and i would like to know who said that michael rapaport she said that when we were pulling up
10:50he yelled out put it in a housewife grave
10:56where was this in the car that's what you said he said you misheard me i did not say he
11:01said it
11:01today and they said well maura you were there more goes girl i don't remember it was less than an
11:11hour ago what happened to your memory you know i don't know if candace willingly understood what
11:17she was doing but she threw portia under the brush yes and mara not being able to remember
11:23kind of sealed the deal yeah i mean listen there's a lot to discuss and we're gonna take a break
11:28and
11:28we'll be right back we're gonna get to episode two let's get cooking
11:36all right let's get into episode two we have our first murder they decided to take out the gamer
11:44ian listen it's all it's gotta always be terrible being the first one to go i don't think ian did
11:50anything to deserve it but it's gotta be someone it's gotta be someone anyone but me the fact that he
11:56was a gamer didn't help him yeah i agree so i don't i don't think it was personal i think
12:01it was
12:01just wrong place wrong time how do you feel about the breakfast moments i mean i like the breakfast
12:06moments because i like to see the reactions of the other people i feel like i can get a lot
12:11from it
12:12this one i mean other than lisa's over dramatic reaction i didn't really see too much it felt like
12:20it was going to be someone as a trader i think as long as you don't do too much you
12:24don't want
12:25to overact i know like you love the theater of it all anything that causes extra attention and
12:31extra eyes on you as a trader i think is a bad thing i might gag because porsche she's then
12:37forgot
12:37about the kitchen drum already like porsche is so forgiving you wouldn't let that go scorched earth
12:43would i have let it go hold it on to it forever honey if i can hold one thing as
12:47a grudge i don't
12:48care how heavy it is i'm gonna i'm gonna bear that carry that weight honey and you know what kind
12:53of
12:53speaking of holding grudges like am i petty like when they all clap when dorinda enters i'm like oh
12:57my god i didn't understand that at all what are we doing like what are y'all doing like do
13:04y'all
13:04is this a sympathy what are y'all running a charity here if i if i had to bet and
13:09i i like to gamble
13:10from time to time the odds on favorite of the first to go home had to have been dorinda right
13:16somehow she doesn't even make the list that was all donna kelsey yeah she's the one that didn't put
13:24dorinda on the list and i just don't know why she didn't i mean you know what donna play a
13:30game how
13:30you want to play it you did great i thought you were actually pretty fun on the show so my
13:34my favorite
13:35moment back in the castle so portia says out loud out of her mouth i killed you she did say
13:42that
13:42she said it but she said it in a way that she didn't mean it the problem is she didn't
13:48know how
13:48to walk it back what made it even crazier was they took her quote and they changed it just enough
13:55to
13:55make it sound really incriminating ron the way that she like kind of off the cuff said you know i
14:00killed ian and then he turned it to and i wrote it down last night when i murdered ian that
14:08is just
14:08not the same thing that's just that is not the same quote one is much more damning than the other
14:15for sure especially when you regurgitate it to everyone else in the group over and over and over
14:20and then everyone else is corroborating his story they've been like yep yep she said it yep she said
14:24those exact words let's talk about episode two's mission okay okay this mission is really wild so you
14:30you have to be you're in these seats right you're in these chariots that are being pulled by the
14:34other people on the team and then you can find money and you can find a shield and if you
14:39find a
14:40shield you unseat the person in the chariot and you now are a shielded person and only the last people
14:46there are the ones that are actually shielded why would you agree to sit in the sheet the seat first
14:50never war second if i'm a faithful i'm always going for a shield yeah and if i'm a traitor i'm
14:58going
14:58for a shield you can look like i'm a faithful always monet gave her shield away to lisa renna
15:03i hate that bad idea i don't like it so we're back in the castle again and mama kelsey's now
15:08gunning for portia with ron and rob so she's got ron and rob going on thinking that it's portia
15:14um which in her defense she has no clue if it is portia or not because she doesn't know
15:18who the other traders are right i gotta say at this point in the show it feels like the traders
15:24haven't had any heat at all yeah except for donna a little bit here and there a little bit
15:29donna's on the radar but when i say the traders like i'm thinking mostly lisa candace and rob
15:36ron is really comfortable starting off he's got this big evidence he's been gathering up about
15:40against portia and he presents to the room and then he gets several people to corroborate his story
15:45back him up and agree with him i mean he's basically the reason she went home oh 100 p yeah
15:52without a shadow of a doubt but what's weird to me is like everyone's mad at portia or everyone's
15:58sus on portia because of they heard that she misspoke but they actually see michael misspeak
16:05in real time in front of literally every single contestant left in the castle i think sometimes
16:12it's the conviction and ron was like you know he was doubling down on it he was wrong but like
16:18in the
16:18moment he felt like so strongly about it he was able to get other people on his side well donna
16:25does
16:25get a little bit of heat too because natalie calls out donna at the table um it doesn't get much
16:30i mean
16:30she does get a few people to vote and say her name which cannot feel good to donna at all
16:35she's got to
16:35be shaking her boots here because now she's out there as someone because you know how it works bob
16:40when you're in the castle you don't want to hear your name if it comes up even if it comes
16:45up at the
16:45round table in passing the next day whether you're out or not that comes back up again bob you know
16:52how tumultuous these round tables can be like sometimes you go in with the set plan and you think
16:57you know how the vote's gonna go and then all of a sudden somebody says something out of left field
17:03there's a comment it changes it changes the room it changes the dynamic and you like you did that with
17:09me like there was a whole bunch of talk i was no one said my name and then you were
17:12like bob
17:13drag queen that's the last name i heard oh i waited and then i got overwhelming votes and i
17:16noticed that this is what happened with candace candace somehow got a lot of votes off of portia
17:21it was candace you're so impressive what you do at that round table is next level it was one vote
17:29away and the tie-breaking vote was colton and then colton ended up swinging over to portia it changes you
17:37can feel the dynamic change what really tickled me was when portia said that she was a faithful
17:41and then it cuts back to uh donna she just goes ah crap i don't know why that that needs
17:47to be a
17:47meme somebody needs to clip that ah crap like she that was so funny to me and now ron reeks
17:56of
17:56traitor he stinks he's got he i mean he made such a strong case and then you know to to
18:03take that
18:04swing and then miss completely of course all the eyes are on him now one of my favorite moments in
18:10the
18:11traitors history we get a murder in plain sight oh i love this they have to find this random picture
18:18in the house somewhere open it up find these cards that's all stressful you know how stressful it is
18:25doing anything in the castle when other people are there we had to do it to put the people in
18:29the
18:29coffin yes so they have to get the cards out look at the cards and then somehow burn one of
18:34the cards
18:35or there will be no murder right so and they won't find out who the secret traitor is yeah and
18:41so i gotta
18:42ask you this question keep it a buck yeah what do you think of the conga line move i hated
18:48it oh it was
18:49so next level horrible i completely disagree it was so bold no she somehow got almost every single
18:59person in the castle to do it except rob c was like what the hell he was he was astute
19:05he was
19:05paying attention every red flag went up for me let's look at this moment it was so good let's look
19:10at it you know this would be a great time oh look at look at look at who gets up
19:17immediately
19:18oh my god yes duh of course it makes sense honestly it's so dumb it's so dumb it'll work look
19:27at
19:27lipinski's first one lipinski's in and uh the traitor lisa renna's in oh look at homeboy eric's in i love
19:35eric eric sing me a song i love him oh once the cuckoo line gets down by the kitchen uh
19:44rob uh does this
19:46really cool thing where he's like i'm not doing this runs in rob r rob r right grabs those cards
19:52looks to him real quick and then he has this other brilliant idea lisa let's play chess yeah lisa goes
19:59i don't want to play chess let me teach you i'm gonna play devil's advocate again right we're making
20:05a tv show the traitors all of a sudden we're gonna play chess something's going on well if i see
20:11someone
20:12taking time to play chess in the limited amount of time that we have to talk something more is
20:19going on well i was stressed tara lipinski was like what the fuck are y'all doing tara was like
20:23yeah she
20:23was on it she knew what was going on she hit him with your uh tom sandoval she was like
20:28she did
20:29she gave him the sandoi but i guess she just came to the conclusion that there was nothing going on
20:34and she's like yeah whatever i'll just skate away she didn't say anything about it i'll just triple
20:39axel back to the kitchen yeah and then that's when they decide it's going to be rob c they go
20:44to the breakfast room they light his card on fire drop just in the nick of time man i gotta
20:52tell you
20:52personally i felt bad that's the tough thing about this game yeah sometimes you're gonna be the one
20:59banished or murdered and it's gonna be based on reputation or whatever else well listen later on
21:04we're gonna get a chance to talk to rob cestinino about his early demise but for right now let's go
21:09ahead and take a short break and then come back and move on to episode three
21:17okay so episode three is happening now ron has a lot of heat on him at breakfast like he
21:22i don't know how long ron has in this castle well deservedly so i mean he took a swing to
21:28get
21:28porsche out and he got her out but she wasn't a traitor and they trusted him i mean he was
21:34he was
21:34very convincing i i probably would have been convinced too to be especially with so many
21:38people corroborating his story and then rob c's gone he gets a little eulogy but it's only from the
21:42traders he didn't really get like a lot of big reaction you know but then baby alan hits them with
21:49a real bomb he goes we're gonna do a round table before before the mission yeah round tables are for
21:56nice i love it i love the fact that they're mixing up the game and they're literally putting
22:04you know the participants back on their heels so they get a little back to the castle but they get
22:10to talk for a little bit and then tiffany goes up to michael and she's like you need to chill
22:12out
22:12so caroline from real housewives of dubai she is like talking about donna and then donna walks in
22:19and then donna goes i hear you shushing like the way the way the donna goes oh crap and caroline
22:25goes
22:26and then she goes i heard the yeah she knows she knows what it means that like shows me that
22:31she
22:31has a level of gameplay that she knows what's going on do you believe that she's really starstruck do
22:37you believe that no not for a minute yeah i mean she's hanging out with big celebrities all the time
22:42her kids her daughter-in-law like everybody yes like come on every week she's in a different box with
22:47a different celebrity like i was talking to paul mccartney oh well you're starstruck by people
22:51from survivor she cares about she cares she cares about people from rupaul's drag race
22:59stop that's fair so at the round table this early brunch round table right i guess we're having
23:04bloody berries and round table now uh candace starts it off again i'm telling you i'm obsessed with this
23:10woman god of mercy i worship the altar of candace she has them eating out of the palm of her
23:15hand
23:16it might come back to bite her later on yeah but oh my gosh she's good tv donna got an
23:24overwhelming amount of votes yeah it was donna donna donna donna donna donna donna donna like
23:28it was crazy at some point like they felt like she's a traitor and everybody jumped on board with
23:34that i feel like colton got a little bit of social cachet this time because he was part of the
23:38the the
23:39mission to get donna voted out of the castle i feel like it was just like him being vocal on
23:44something that was kind of obvious when i announced that i was a traitor people were knocking
23:48over cheers i was i was like yeah got him lifting each other up they threw you up their shoulder
23:54like you're some king yes got him and it you can see that it feels good they're so happy they
24:01got
24:02one they're so happy i'll tell you what was wild this episode was that face-to-face murder
24:07so eric caroline ron and kristen are tied to these trees who would you kill
24:11i mean i know i wouldn't kill ron he's got enough egg on his face you need him
24:16yeah i think kristen or caroline would be my top choices and by murdering caroline you get an
24:22opportunity to sow even more dissent amongst the housewives you can get that group completely
24:28turned on each other now we don't trust each other you get a chance to do that they're doing
24:32it to all the survivor i mean the survivors do it to themselves no shade they do they do and
24:36the
24:36gamers in general the gamers will always cannibalize i think caroline's a good option i think
24:40kristen is a good option ron would be a terrible choice you're gonna want to murder someone who
24:46will never be banished okay listen we've been giving our opinions but let's talk to folks who
24:49are actually in the castle at this time that sounds good right after this we're gonna be joined live
24:55with rob cester nino
25:01he's a survivor legend from the amazon and all stars revered for his witty and revolutionary
25:07strategic gameplay now he's the mastermind behind the iconic rob has a podcast the ultimate hub for
25:15reality tv analysis please welcome the one and only rob cester nino how's the podcast going so far
25:24because i know you two have such a great history of working together and never having any problems
25:33the shoe is on the other foot i feel like i'm always getting interviewed by you this is a first
25:39and i don't know how this is gonna go so apologies in advance this is your second strategy-based show
25:44what is the difference between survivor and the traitors i think that in survivor you have an
25:52opportunity to build your team and you have almost all the information and in traders there's just so
26:01much that you don't know and you're just flying blind for so much of it let's look at one of
26:05the
26:05missions they both have some pretty challenging grueling physically challenging things and let's see
26:10what this mission look like for you you haven't seen anything yet no no
26:14all right let's go okay let's go damn the first one that must hurt i mean you know when they
26:18say
26:19nothing personal it's personal put the coffins anywhere when we should talk through how this is
26:27going to help us most strategically you seem to be getting really frustrated because they're just
26:32throwing caskets and graves they're just trying to get back and grab some more money and you seem
26:36really frustrated why are you so frustrated there i'm like we should talk this through about what we're
26:41doing meanwhile i little do i know that i'm with freaking rob roush trader that he's like yeah
26:47just throw it anywhere who cares just whatever who cares and i it was a little frustrating of like hey
26:54like let's like let's go for people that we're not working with because i had a thought that if
26:58somebody put a coffin under my name to pick it up and move it and put it in someone else's
27:03you know
27:03hey that's why you're you i don't think anybody else thought of taking a coffin out of the cat out
27:10of
27:10the ground i was like oh dear they put it in mine let's get it out of there let's take
27:17a look a
27:17little more good decision rob c let's do rob rob rob is smart we need rob put it down put
27:24it down
27:24why are we doing rob oh all right put it back up donna is older that's crazy she's lived her
27:32life
27:32let's just just just do that we form an alliance with the red team so we protect each other's vote
27:38but we got there with the other team that we were not working with so or jumping alliance
27:42uh-oh jam jam switch it up just like that you you you dodged it once but you could not
27:49dodge it twice
27:50so it seems like jam jam is really advocating for you to lose your shield how does it feel to
27:54see
27:54that what a guy uh i really thought that there would be the survivors trying to you know have
28:01each other's back no you didn't really did you really you thought that so i would say because
28:08i felt like that we have numbers at the round table it feels that way but i feel like for
28:14sure
28:14every time like like as far as any group of people the survivors will will try to kill each other
28:21the survivors seem to be the most cannibalistic group on the show easily we were all faithful
28:27why are they trying to kill each other even more reason to kill them they assume them didn't you
28:32assume that jam jam was traitor i thought jam jam was a traitor because i he was acting so weird
28:38i
28:38really thought that he was a traitor he was giving me very suspicious vibes uh the whole time that it
28:45was i was there and i didn't know why he was acting so weird because i know him outside the
28:51show
28:51and i felt like he was just so odd and paranoid the whole time is that crazy because because they
28:59felt like you were so quiet and like not yourself too the castle makes you overanalyze everything
29:05you are obviously in the world of uh strategizing and analyzing everything involved in reality tv
29:14competitive reality tv is this harder than you thought it was going to be yeah i mean i was disappointed
29:19to not get the chance to play longer because i felt like that i could have figured more things out
29:27if
29:27i was there but it it is you have so much less control over your own destiny than you do
29:34have on
29:35some of the other shows where you could be minding your own business and all of a sudden you're out
29:40of
29:40the game yeah i felt that as a traitor and i felt like strategically you know it was harder because
29:48you can't really control the people like you can on those other shows but the question is rob be honest
29:55were you minding your own business because you were going around being like i got a feeling there's a
29:59plain sight murder tonight so if you see anything weird like were you minding your own business and i said
30:05okay well i've seen this before i know what the traitors do i'm gonna mind my own business i'm gonna
30:12get away and i i told a couple of my friends like hey watch out for it do you remember
30:16who you said
30:16the friends that you told do you remember who you told all right listen i want to jog your memory
30:22and show you who you told your magnificent plan to all right here's the clip
30:31i'm concerned that the traitors could be trying to do a murder in plain sight oh no if somebody
30:38asks you to do something unusual like somebody gives you a drink like they could be like we've
30:44just shared skittles no i know these these are these are regular skittles you started the conga line
30:50right yes okay that was your idea okay yes mm-hmm yeah so watching that back how do you feel
31:00like
31:01that decision played out for you yeah so what you're saying is that it's a bad idea to tell the
31:08traitors when a murder in plain sight is going to be happening that's that's that's not good
31:13yeah i'm gonna go on a limb and say yeah that's a bad idea to tell the traitors i know
31:18what you're up
31:18to and then being like weren't you the one hmm yeah you know what now hindsight is 2020 on that
31:27i
31:27think candace is an incredible player and i felt very good about her but in my own journaling after
31:37i really started to think about like well i think that you know what candace could be a traitor and
31:45this is uh a lot of how i remember it and i just uh did not know exactly how it
31:52went down because
31:53i knew a murder in plain sight was happening and then i got a letter you have been murdered in
31:59plain
31:59sight so what kept you off what kept you off like what made you think it was i knew it
32:04was a murder
32:04in plain sight how like what was the clue what was the clue that made you realize it was a
32:08murder in
32:08plain sight i just started to get an inkling of like oh i wonder if this could just be one
32:15of those
32:15nights you were spot on you knew what was going on it was perfect like your strategy was right there
32:22so what is your reaction you walk into the room you see a chair and there's a letter in it
32:27what's
32:28your first reaction not good i didn't think i got recruited um i was very very disappointed uh i just
32:35like i was very confident when i came when i went when i went was getting ready for breakfast that
32:41morning because i felt like i know the traitors murdered in plain sight and nobody did anything
32:46to me i didn't drink out of a cup nobody touched my face nobody said a weird thing to me
32:51so i really
32:52felt very confident so the faithfuls are getting killed what do you think is it going to continue
32:59what's going to happen moving forward i think the faithfuls are going to have their work cut out for
33:04them because these traitors are really really smart they're making good decisions and they're
33:10taking people out strategically and that faithful need to get their act together come on you're making
33:18us look bad like a direct yeah just say our name at us next time okay who are you rooting
33:23for i would
33:24say tiffany and monet are the players that i really would love to see do very well in the game
33:30let me ask
33:31you this do you have like any regrets about going knowing that it it ended so quickly no rob i
33:38had
33:39the best time when i was there it was such a dream come true to get the chance to go
33:45and play and yeah
33:47i don't i don't have any regrets and honestly i don't know necessarily what i could have done
33:53differently i wouldn't lose any sleep over it so if you saw a conga line you know if you saw
33:58a conga line
33:59tonight would you join it no way bob i'm not doing i i don't care if you guys are in
34:03the conga line
34:04or your kids your kids want to do a conga line never again i'm not i'm not doing the conga
34:10line i'm not
34:10doing the limbo forget it thank you so much rob cesnino for joining us you guys can find rob on
34:15rob
34:16has a podcast um and he does what we're doing here and has been doing it for a long time
34:21a lot longer
34:22and a lot better much respect brother i know uh it hurt me to see you go so early hey
34:28rob i hope i
34:30didn't let you down i know uh you gave me some good advice and i really tried to follow it
34:36as much as i
34:37could but you know it's a crazy game and you gotta play hard and just hope for the best when
34:43you're
34:43faithful yeah well next time we'll see you back brother i uh i appreciate you thanks for coming
34:48appreciate you both too and uh great job on congratulations on the new podcast thanks
34:53dude thanks just just a couple of people named robert hanging out together lots of robs on the
34:57show all right guys thank you so much and listen don't go away we'll be right back with a little
35:01bit more traders official podcast i know you guys know this is a special supersized episode so we have
35:13another surprise guest unfortunately she couldn't be here in person but we have her on the line you
35:20know her from the real housewives atlanta you know her from the celebrity apprentice and you know her
35:24from looking stunning give it up for porsha williams hey porsha hey oh my god i'm so excited to talk
35:34to you yeah me too me too hi porsha hey coming into the castle did you have like a set
35:43strategy
35:44or a way that you wanted to play the game i really wanted to kind of be a traitor but
35:49then when i
35:49realized i wasn't i was like i'm gonna be the most faithful the most honest and you know a little
35:55bit
35:55aggressive um faithful because i feel like the fables in the past always kind of sat back and the
36:02traders hunted them down and i was like no we can break a record we can get donna out of
36:08here the
36:09first tape first round table and that could be history that we got a traitor at the first round
36:14table so if they would have just listened to me then they would have gotten a traitor at the first
36:19round table can we just talk about the criminal activity of the banishment of porsha and the
36:27misquoting how do you feel hearing how dare how dare they run saying you said out of your mouth
36:36last night when i murdered ian how did it feel hearing them like swear up and down you said that
36:43when you know you didn't say it well here's the thing he was so dead set on like you said
36:49it he was
36:49so convicted he would not stop he wouldn't even take a breath to let me say something that i was
36:55like
36:55wait did i say that oh so it became a game in my head of like who said that because
37:03i'm like wait
37:04hold on now i know that i was putting myself in the shoes of the murderer like okay i was
37:09saying to
37:10them hey let's think about this as if we were the traitor so my sentence could have been you know
37:16last night when i murdered ian what was my motive what was my you know just kind of out loud
37:21out loud
37:22talking it through that's so crazy it's so crazy that you say that because like there is like a
37:29psychological tactic where depending on how confidently somebody says something even though
37:36you believe it not to be true if they continuously say it it will make you second guess yourself
37:43what is it like to sit at that round table and have your name said over and over and over
37:49again
37:49it was horrible because you have to understand i felt like i had a little group of people who
37:55understood me i got them we kind of were giving each other the eye you know i knew i felt
38:01like almost
38:01a hundred percent that i was nowhere on the chopping block i had done nothing for anybody to come for
38:07me
38:08so i was full confident now that's one thing i feel like if i were to come to the table
38:12i'm like okay
38:12yeah i know they're gonna come for me i came to the table like i'm good i feel like it's
38:18you know
38:18i knew who the people who i thought it was and that was that so when it turned and he
38:25was like
38:26quoting me completely misquoting me i was like oh my god he's really about to convince these people
38:32that i said that you know it was really hard to watch watching them try to nail you to the
38:37cross
38:38over a misspeak and then michael rappel over here say that you misspoke and then michael rappel
38:44misspoke in front of everybody uh-huh if you realize you notice he acted like he was such a
38:51big fan of mine so it's kind of like once he got to the round table and switched on me
38:55it's like
38:56well damn he does love her so if he's saying it's her it must be her the worst part about
39:00having to
39:01leave leave the castle early was i didn't get to wear my stuff i was about to put on for
39:04my city
39:05you look good though and i love that sweater you look so good at least you got to leave looking
39:09beautiful all right okay i was like okay first round table let's see nobody could have told me
39:14that i was going to be leaving the first round table that was incredibly disappointing oh my god
39:19i wish we could have saw more of you porsha but they were scared they knew they knew i was
39:24a real
39:24player they knew that i was coming in with you know i'm saying with facts and i was being honest
39:30and they people were believing me and that you know that's they had to get me out that's what i
39:34feel
39:34so what's your final message to the faithful so they can win this game what's your message to them
39:38my message to the faithful is follow your instinct follow your heart and really i would not go by
39:46hearsay because they're playing a very tricky game all right that's everyone that is porsha
39:51williams thank you so much porsha and y'all do not go away we'll be right back with the traders
39:55official podcast and a lot more tea treacherous murder and fun
40:07oh my god let's talk about the fast shot it's my favorite part of the episode
40:12i'm gonna say this season three we changed the game for fashion no doubt i'm still rocking the
40:20iconic back what's that and i am i'm a fan now i love candy she's wearing a teal and black
40:27two-piece
40:28like sweater suit she always looks a little bit like a flight attendant this looks good i like her
40:32outfit a lot yeah she looks really cute and charming i love that girl you look like an uber
40:36driver colton's wearing this first of all he's giant how big is this shirt like well how small
40:42is the tie the tie looks like it's half the size let's go on to oh my god the phoenix
40:48rises alan
40:49coming is wearing this like yellow power ranger that's what i'm going with but with matching hair
40:55which i you know me i love extra i mean the fact that he went all out and did his
41:01hair orange
41:01with that outfit i gotta give him some credit right joy to the world it's johnny wear
41:09he's dressing for the holidays it does look very christmasy in in june in scotland this is your
41:15style michael rompour is wearing a baseball cap and a shirt sadly the only problem is the hat is forward
41:21and we know that that is way out of style no one does that anymore okay can i just say
41:27ron is low
41:28key eating with his outfit am i crazy low key ron's wearing this like tri-color track suit i think
41:37is
41:37cute i love mara's like mossy condom outfit this like latex slick wear oh jam jam jam jam this coat
41:48is so and it's a bow pattern i know you don't like that it's making me dizzy it's making me
41:54dizzy
41:55for sure i'm just saying it looks like pixelated i might do i need my glasses no you're seeing right
42:01it looks like a big pixelated autumn colored jacket like a wool jacket but it's giving and it's beret
42:08his beard looks so quaffed he looks handsome i love this look this is like the fourth beret i've seen
42:13do they are they handing them out this season before you get it with your trader starter pack
42:18it was a kilt before now it's a beret now it's a beret there's too many looks to go over
42:21there's
42:22too many looks there's too many people all right thank you so much for joining us for this supersize
42:27podcast episode what a way to kick off this season i can't wait to see what's gonna happen next when
42:33the traders airs episode four and five on january 15th at 9 p.m eastern only on peacock and you
42:40can
42:41find us the traders official podcast dropping after every episode on peacock youtube and you can
42:46listen and follow wherever you get your podcast so you never miss an episode thank you all so much
42:51for joining us bye don't die
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