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00:08in 1991 after nearly half a century of the white supremacy of apartheid South Africa rejoined the
00:15world of sport and cricket whose international boycott had helped bring down the racist regime
00:21became a symbol of its new rainbow reputation
00:32the embodiment of the new era was Afrikaner Hansi Cronje brilliant captain who made the
00:38Republic's cricket team into world beaters in the game that embodied the spirit of fairness
00:45he was very much a PR dream was Hansi Cronje
00:51the stage was set for a hero but what was to transpire was a tragedy for sport for a free
00:57nation and for a man who was marketed as the very best of the new South Africa
01:09he was a cricket genius name me a game which was fixed then I don't I never know any game
01:16for sure
01:16that was fixed this yes I I think it was a massive blow a massive blow dreaming is a very
01:25important
01:25element of people's life and it took a lot of naivety away it was one of the most heinous things
01:34you
01:34could do you know and belied the trust put him as national captain people felt cheated not only in
01:42terms of their personal relationship with an icon that they had supported but they felt cheated about
01:48their relationship with a game that they had seen as clean and honest yeah cricket it's just not cricket
01:56what does it just not cricket mean now you know cricket is a highly moral game just as sport had
02:19played a part in highlighting apartheid sport now needed to play a part in creating the change in South Africa
02:26society under apartheid the wanderers in Johannesburg had been for whites only but in the new spirit of conciliation an
02:35Afrikaner was welcomed as an icon of transformation
02:40he brought himself across as somebody who was not of this old racist order that he believed in the future
02:45of the rainbow nation
02:47be fair in sport be fair in life don't do crime
02:57Hansi Konya was born in Blomfontein heartland of the Afrikaners
03:03the free state was a very conservative place it still is in a lot of respects
03:10when they discussed the racial question it wasn't so much a black and white issue
03:14they were actually talking about English and Afrikaner
03:20this is where Konya went to school
03:22Grey College
03:26Afrikaner cricket gathered momentum in the 60s you know
03:29the Konya family is a very good example his dad was an administrator and so on
03:33and they brought in very good values of course it all went sour at the end
03:40hello boys
03:41hello boys
03:41hello
03:45the great asset that South Africa and its cricket has is its schools
03:50wonderful facilities good coaches great pitches good weather everything going for them
03:56I mean you look at the free state rugby team it's great college great college great college great college great
04:00college
04:01same with the free state cricket team it has to be the most well represented school in Italian sport
04:07the school was founded in 1855 by Sir George Gray the governor of the Cape
04:11he said may the college always train noble citizens
04:16things like integrity and teamwork and loyalty
04:21we call them great gentlemen because we want them to behave like gentlemen
04:28great college taught the boys about unity and toughness the qualities that have made the afrikaners strong but isolated
04:38its head johan volstierd coached hansie when he was a boy here
04:43good morning boys
04:44good morning boys
04:46let us pray
04:49thank you lord for a school full of positive people
04:53staff members boys parents old boys
04:57forgive us our sins for christ's sake amen
05:02i find that the cricket players at the school are usually that some of the nicest kids in the school
05:08it's a good shot
05:09i always said to the boys i don't coach cricket i coach life
05:15to compare cricket to any other game is to compare chested snakes and ladder
05:21afrikaans speaking boys started playing cricket
05:23and that's why you suddenly found names like
05:25fanny de villiers and kepler vessels and hansi cronier playing cricket
05:29and it was just a matter of raising the bar and raising the standard of the cricket they played
05:33because they're all very competitive
05:35for them to get international sides
05:39the croniers are bad losers
05:42so whenever they've attempted a sport
05:48they tried to be the best
05:51it was the entrance of the afrikaners into the middle classes
05:54you know that's one thing that apartheid
05:56really did for the afrikaners was to
05:58deliver them middle class careers
06:00so their schools
06:02became a major breeding ground
06:04of afrikaans cricketers
06:06i also met hansi when he was still very young
06:08because his dad used to teach and coach me
06:10when i was at school
06:11so i knew him since virtually birth
06:13and especially in secondary school i started coaching him
06:16on this same pitch we practiced here
06:18and i put a bottle of coke down there and i said
06:20if you can eat the coke you can have it and he was very fond of coke
06:23so he really tried to eat the coke bottle
06:25to get the cool drink
06:34as a school boy he was a fantastic leader of men
06:37he was captain of the school he was a rugby captain
06:39he was the cricket captain
06:41he could jowl people together
06:43afrikaans english-speaking everybody
06:45and nobody nobody nobody ever for one second
06:47doubted that he was the right choice
06:49as a captain
06:51he was very good at influencing people
06:53positively and very good at
06:55making people feel important
06:57not him the others
07:00coronia left school at a pivotal time
07:02just as he joined the orange free state
07:05cricket team the afrikaner world
07:07was being overturned
07:12the sporting boycott
07:14was still being flighted by rebel tours
07:16funded by the apartheid government
07:18but international pressure
07:19was growing
07:21just as sport had played a part
07:23in highlighting apartheid
07:25sport now needed to play a part
07:27in creating the change
07:29in south african society
07:31authority is hereby granted
07:33ali bacha had been running south african cricket throughout the boycott
07:37within the boundaries
07:38as stipulated by the counterpoint
07:43once again
07:44cricket found itself
07:45right at the heart of the political storm
07:50with each succeeding game
07:52the demonstrations were getting
07:54uglier and uglier
07:56angrier
07:58we are feared for the life of my getting
08:03for political reasons
08:05mike gatting's rebel tour had to be hurriedly curtailed
08:08nelson mandela was released
08:11during the getting to
08:13i mean it's absolutely unbelievable
08:16with all that hatred and animosity
08:19we got down
08:21and talking
08:23but mandela's insistence
08:25south africa was ready to be
08:27reintegrated into world sport
08:32south africa was still the polecat
08:33of the world in terms of sport
08:35and everything else and the next morning
08:37they were on a plane to india to go play three wonder
08:39internationals pakistan had cancelled
08:41their tour of india
08:43which was in about a week's time
08:45and the indian authorities
08:48lent us
08:49pressurized us begged us
08:51to take their place
08:52south african cricket people hadn't even thought of india
08:55because well our government wasn't too keen on us playing against chaps who weren't entirely white
08:59so we didn't play against india before that
09:01and suddenly india
09:02everything changed
09:03we arrived in calcutta
09:05and there was this amazing welcome
09:07about 100 000 indians
09:10were lining the streets
09:11holding out flowers
09:13placards welcome to south africa
09:15none of them raised any questions about apartheid
09:18hansi kronia was in the team
09:19his parents were part of the special delegation
09:23kronia was just 20.
09:26i shared a room with him in india
09:28with hansi kronia
09:29and um
09:31i mean it was all new to us
09:33a couple of black players were taken on that tour
09:36because i mean the world wanted to see
09:38if this is now the new south africa
09:39fike davids was a pretty talented player
09:42very aggressive all-rounder
09:44but he didn't quite make it
09:46which i think was probably to the disappointment
09:48of a lot of people
09:49hansi played
09:50and i still went as
09:52an additional player
09:55where of course kronia at his career
09:57just leapt
10:00kronia was now a test cricketer
10:05i think it was really unfairly done
10:07the way
10:09unification took place that time
10:11you always find that you've got to push a little more
10:13for the black guy
10:16then of course
10:17there was the sydney test match in 1994
10:20his captain injured
10:22kronia stepped into the breach
10:23and led his country to an extraordinary
10:25victory over the world's best
10:27the australians
10:29hansi was probably one of the few blokes
10:31who actually really believed that we could have won that game
10:33that was magnificent
10:34this is where finally the villiers
10:36took the back for the wickets to bolt
10:38so they'll have to get a victory from nowhere
10:39and so they ended up winning by five rounds
10:46festivals was all for the hand injury
10:48another landmark for the rising star
10:51as kronia's qualities as a leader emerged
10:58in the world
10:59be fair in sport
11:00be fair in life
11:02don't do crime
11:06what made kronia successful i think
11:08is just force of personality as well as
11:10talent and and guts
11:12you know talent was probably at the bottom of his list
11:19there was always the question mark
11:21how well was south africa going to do now
11:23that had been readmitted to international cricket
11:27kronia goes to 50
11:28and there was a sense that
11:30the country was going to battle for a
11:32good decade or so
11:33but vessels and kronia the two africaners
11:36had strong competitive instincts
11:38they
11:40led south africa right to the
11:42the top of international cricket
11:44i mean we were basically
11:46second to australia
11:48i must congratulate in particular
11:52captain hans kronje
11:56for the excellent manner in which he has led
12:00at the national team
12:03it has not been easy
12:06to crawl out
12:07of the devastating
12:10isolation
12:11which lasted for decades
12:13we didn't really deal with the
12:15issue of transformation seriously at that stage
12:17we were caught up in the in the roller
12:19coaster that the country was going through
12:21and cricket in a sense was caught in that slipstream
12:24thank you for being here
12:25mr mandela
12:27and thank you very much for your immense contribution
12:29in uniting this country and forming a new south africa
12:32and granting us the opportunity of playing sport
12:35he was a very strong leader
12:37very very powerful person
12:39general
12:40he had the respect of all his players
12:42he was the boss
12:44he might have been too strong
12:49some people suggested that i might have given him too much freedom
12:55one
12:56south african teams were still all white
12:57cricket in south africa was still run
12:59by white men
12:59the white world had the stadiums
13:01the white world had the infrastructure
13:03the white world had
13:05had the money
13:07ladies and gentlemen
13:07bob wilmer
13:09trania's keen coach was the former england test cricketer
13:12bob wilmer
13:14i don't think bob wilmer was interested in power
13:17wilmer was interested in
13:18the game of cricket and how you win it
13:20he wasn't interested in getting into a
13:22fight over dressing room power with somebody like
13:24hansi trania
13:27well bob before was an establishment cricketer
13:29when i've been established it was the white
13:31cricket community and saku people
13:33he played for natalia and so on
13:34and then he was a member of the rebel tour
13:37so quite frankly from a black cricket
13:39perspective he was persona non grata
13:42because he was favoring a system that
13:45entrenched apartheid but then post unity
13:47bob got involved in cricket as a coach
13:49he started off with the under 23s
13:51and he went to sri lanka
13:52he was an exceptionally good coach
13:54technically very progressive
13:57used the new technology and so on
13:59did very well for the south african team
14:00after a very poor start when they got rubbed in pakistan
14:04he worked well
14:05with hansi they formed a very good team
14:07just before he gave up
14:10you took over
14:11just at the point when nelson mandela became president
14:14more or less didn't you
14:15uh 94 years
14:16yeah
14:18hansi kronia
14:19he was the greatest leader i think i've ever worked with
14:22unbelievable person
14:25really unbelievable
14:26because what was
14:29he had everything really he could handle people off the field
14:31he had a sense of humor
14:33he had this intimate knowledge of cricket
14:36he worked hard at the game
14:37he studied it
14:38i think he was without doubt the best captain i've ever worked with
14:47hansi krania was a very good captain in a number of ways in the one way he could get people
14:51to believe in themselves
14:53he commanded respect and he had the respect of all the players so um you know i was always very
15:00much in awe of him
15:02in that period
15:03between when bob joined in 94 and 97
15:06i think that was the golden period
15:07when hansi used the information
15:09that bob provided
15:11and particularly in the one day game bob provided them the techniques and the skills and the wisdom of how
15:16to play the game
15:17and the team was very successful but after the end of 97 it was clear that his ideas were moving
15:23on
15:23and he wanted to get rid of bob
15:28this phenomenon of player power took over in the krania days
15:32krania's personality was just too big
15:34and just overpowered almost everything else in that south african squad
15:38the paradox is he didn't believe in himself
15:43hansi was the one guy who wouldn't talk
15:50he could analyze individuals very accurately
15:53and so that made him a great motivator
15:55but it also made him a great manipulator
15:57because if he found your weakness
15:58he could manipulate that
16:06bob didn't actually see it that way
16:09and in my view was a little bit too trusting of hansi
16:13he i think was under the control of hansi to some extent
16:16and what hansi said unfortunately became the law
16:23the relationship between coach and captain may have been complex
16:27but in 1999 it was the race issue that was to bring krania into conflict with his employers
16:34eight years after mandela's release there were still only two non-whites in the national team
16:39young batsman herschel gibbs and bowler
16:44both bob boomer and myself wanted to try and get the world cup 14 or 15 as close as we
16:50possibly could to preparing the guys
16:52i went to explain to them the need to go forward
16:56the need for there to be cricket transformation
17:00after south africa had achieved a five no test series whitewash of the west indies
17:05hansi was told
17:06in simple terms wherever there are opportunities we've got to provide them to black creators
17:12the philosophy is
17:14if their moral is equal the black man must given the first chance because he was deprived all along
17:21selectors were not seen to be bold enough in terms of saying
17:24here's a young black kid with talent let's give him an opportunity
17:27well we felt that trans transformation was necessary
17:30but not not at the international level because we didn't see a australia transforming
17:36we didn't with the aborigines we didn't see new zealand transforming with maoris
17:41intentionally weakening their side just to give someone a chance
17:46captain was focused on saying we need to win full stop
17:48and i'm not interested in creating special circumstances for for different people etc etc
17:53that's why i'm trying to say that there should be no special treatment for special players
17:58at the end of the day we all grown up we all adults and we all understand that if you
18:03go through a
18:03a struggling form whether you captain whether you opening butter there are going to be times when your position in
18:10the team is going to be under threat
18:11their world is my place in the team their world is we need to win
18:14their world is almost comes from a position of insecurity about their own space
18:20all of a sudden we're given a squad of 17
18:22and basically told we could try and accommodate everyone in playing
18:26he took humbrace to what i said
18:31he went back to blomfontein and the message came back that he was withdrawing from creel or whatever
18:39i said to him if you want to make a stand you must make it at the right time and
18:42at the right place
18:43after a couple days you know he calmed down he came to johannesburg
18:48though cronia withdrew his resignation the transformation issue was still to rankle
18:54black people encroaching on a nice cushioned comfort zone that you were in for many years
19:01it's a threat
19:03i don't know whether i'm being harsh
19:05cornea took south africa to the 99 world cup in england as joint favorites
19:11they were within an ace of reaching the final
19:14yeah a lot of people say what's the highlight of your career and what's the low light of your career
19:18and i think it's the same game
19:20you know playing in the world cup and getting to a semi-final is an incredible highlight
19:24but then obviously the low light tying the game and not making it to the final was the absolute down
19:29hour
19:30to watch that single unfold in the middle of the you know sitting in the change room
19:36with the bottles of champagne ready
19:38three balls remaining cruisner on strike
19:41there it is
19:42this will be out surely
19:43oh it's out it's got to be run out oh that's it
19:47south africa left donald didn't run
19:49i cannot believe it australia go into the
19:52and have to go back and sit down on the seat and
19:54and just come to grips with it yeah it was uh
19:58incredible
19:58what a disappointing end for south africa
20:00what a match for our viewers
20:01the game of cricket is not exact science
20:04hansi that must be a heartbreaker
20:08two to win england
20:12the next year hansi added to his reputation as a bold and innovative leader by turning a dead test match
20:19into a compelling contest with a double innings forfeit
20:22this had never been done before in the long history of test cricket
20:28obviously disappointed in losing you can see that in his face then in early 2000 it was to india as
20:34captain
20:34back to the scene of his international start at a cave before as his country emerged from sporting exile
20:41hansi kronja was established a national hero and receptacle of universal adulation
20:47fied as a captain around the world he represented a south africa that was unimaginable just 10 years previously
20:56and then out of clear blue sky as it were we had the match fixing allegations
21:04from the delhi police which said it had tapes which showed that hansi kronja had been in the pay of
21:12indian bookmakers
21:15i mean kronja was caught by accident the cell phone that he was given was gift from a businessman
21:19but unbeknownst that businessman the business was being taped not kronja
21:23but all these calls were from south african and detective paul in delhi
21:27suddenly had these cricket conversations going on and he knew a bit about the game
21:32lucky accident if you like or unlucky accident for hansi kronja as it turned out
21:36and we have to verify certain facts the indian police were laying charges against kronja and three other players
21:43significantly the three others were all non-white cricketers
21:47most of the press said this just can't be true this is a hoax
21:51initially of course he was uncontactable the cricket board put out the statement on his behalf
21:58and they were hoping he was going to handle it himself and perhaps hold out
22:07i got a call from bromwin wilkinson and she said to me there are these match fixing reports
22:12that hansi kronja is somehow implicated in match fixing but of course it's all rubbish
22:16and i remember myself saying yes of course it's all rubbish
22:20match fixing what on earth could that mean
22:27it was certainly knowledge that bookmakers were around whether those bookmakers were influencing
22:32cricketers seemed to be a completely different matter
22:38it took a while for me and for almost every other south african journalist to to start giving all this
22:44a little bit more credence
22:46hansi has denied all allegations of mess of match fixing by himself
22:52the minister's african sport was behind him
22:54he had to be strong and deny
22:56he made it clear that at no stage has he received any financial benefits
23:03from such alleged incidents of match fixing
23:07hang on he wasn't pissed off
23:09you know why isn't he pissed off
23:11so it's it's impossible for me to
23:13to identify one individual two individuals
23:16his only thing was denial
23:17that was it it's not true
23:19there was no indignation
23:21there was no anger there was no furiousness
23:23i've never received any sum of money
23:25for any match that i've been involved in
23:27and i've never ever approached any of the players
23:30to fix a game
23:32but you could see then he was changing already
23:34he was almost physically smaller
23:35obviously he wasn't but he sort of looked that way
23:38he wasn't quite as imposing as he used to be
23:40and you could see in his face there was a change
23:42he wasn't quite confident
23:44bulletproof figure that he was
23:46but i begged him the day before
23:49i said don't confess i'm telling you
23:52just keep quiet
23:55it's not easy to prove a case of corruption
24:00without the right evidence
24:02they played poker the indian police
24:04played poker with him
24:05and he fell he collapsed
24:07he wrote a confession
24:09that was the biggest mistake he ever made
24:12it was three o'clock in the morning
24:14the phone rang
24:16and there was bacher trying to make
24:18some sort of sense of this
24:19he looked like he was on tranquilizers
24:21you don't often see yali bacher mumbling
24:24and almost in articulate
24:25um
24:27our information is that
24:29hansi cronier was given
24:31uh
24:33between 10 to 15 000
24:36us dollars
24:36a detailed
24:38there was bacher trying to just keep the lid on everything
24:41and forecasting
24:42what was cronier doing
24:47he was interacting with bookmakers
24:51more so
24:52more so
24:53on providing information
24:57i think he was sacked immediately as the captain
25:01what the delhi police discovered turned out to be
25:03the truth
25:04i said immediately
25:06hansi have you taken money
25:08from a bookmaker
25:10he said yes
25:12i said please explain
25:15you know as a cricketing purist
25:17it was a shock to the system that
25:18the gentleman's game had been treated in this way
25:21and one didn't want to believe that these things had been going on
25:24he said
25:27my attitude was well this is outrageous
25:29and and he must he must he must be brought to account
25:32for this
25:32how did you react when you first heard
25:35first heard outrage i'm being honest
25:37yeah absolutely
25:40absolutely shocked
25:41absolutely shocked
25:42no one can convince me that anything's actually taken place
25:45i got an sms from him
25:47um from from hansi
25:49uh basically saying
25:51um uh
25:53basically saying sorry my friend
25:56and then the next day the revelations came out
26:00what cronier had done
26:01was remove this moral high plane
26:04on which most apartheid south africans existed
26:06you know this is a new south africa
26:08this is a south africa which does everything right
26:10you know and suddenly
26:11you're the symbol of your cricket team
26:13the symbol of your sporting nation
26:15uh turns out to be
26:17a petty crook who takes money and fixes matches
26:21the south africans had invested a great deal in hansi cronia
26:25they needed to limit the damage while not condoning corruption
26:29well then the king commission was created
26:32the minister of sport asked if i would chair the commission
26:36which of course was front page news
26:38but i mean the united cricket board
26:40and the government reacted very quickly
26:42very expeditiously
26:44this is a country where for probably
26:46good reason led by mandela during
26:48the 90s reconciliation was tremendously
26:50important if there had been a problem
26:52then they were going to get to the root of it
26:54and they were going to clean cricket up this was going to be
26:56another moral crusade
26:58okay maybe a south african has created the problem
27:00or helped create the problem but it was
27:02south africans who were going to clean it all up
27:04and make cricket better again
27:07how could somebody who had such iconic status in the society
27:12have done this
27:15the king inquiry started most sensationally with
27:20revelations that were truly sensational
27:25it was like waiting for jfk to be shot
27:27like something out of a scorsese movie
27:29and out stepped hansi cronia and the cameras went mad
27:32it was theater it was utter theater
27:35i wish to disclose all the information i have
27:38and in the emotional state in which i find myself
27:41i've dredged my memory as best i can in order to place the facts
27:45before this commission
27:49in the world of cricket
27:51they was involved by certain players
27:53with bookmakers
27:55whether it be a question of spread betting
27:57or match fixing
27:58but that it was a reality
28:01was it widespread oh yes
28:03oh yes i mean i
28:05how many international captains
28:06i don't say we got to double figures
28:08but we're a lot closer to that than has come out
28:11the initial revelation
28:13centered on an indian bookmaker named mk gupta
28:17mk asked me to convey an offer of 200 000 jewish dollars to the team
28:21to throw the match
28:22these initial events took place in 1996
28:26when bob woolmer was the coach
28:28this interview was filmed just weeks before woolmer's death
28:32amidst false rumors that he'd been murdered by match fixers
28:37so during that entire period
28:40you were unaware of it all going on
28:42of fancy receiving money
28:43i mean it was totally
28:44totally the only the only inkling
28:46that we had that we were
28:48that we were in touch with bookies
28:50was in in mumbai
28:52i was part of the side
28:53it was in in india
28:55and i think it was in bombay
28:56i think that was the whole thing that came out
28:58where the side was approached
29:00and it was a benefit game
29:02aminath i think it was
29:03i think his name
29:04the team meeting was held the evening before the match
29:06attended by all the players in the squad
29:09there were several team meetings to discuss this offer
29:12which is which is an amazing fact in itself
29:15mk asked if we would give wickets away
29:18to ensure that we lost
29:20apparently the day before
29:21a bookie rung hansi and said i'm prepared to offer you a sum of money
29:25to throw the game
29:26to a certain extent these bookmakers could do it
29:29because the access to the cricketers were so open
29:31they offered us money to throw the game for whatever reason
29:35i'm not trying to block my wallet
29:36but i was in bed with very
29:38i had the viral flu for two days
29:40so i didn't know about
29:42who was in the last meeting
29:44ask yourself that question
29:45find out who was in the last meeting
29:47and you'll find out who shared the money hansi got
29:49that's middle
29:50the bookie already apparently made contact with cronier
29:53we didn't know this at the time
29:54offered us in excess of a quarter of a million dollars
29:58to throw the game
29:59now that's a lot of money
30:00that's a lot of money
30:02the game's not being shown live in south africa
30:05nobody cares about the game in south africa
30:07so i was then brought into the meeting at the last
30:10i probably right at the end of the meeting to
30:13find out what my decision was
30:15and i immediately very anti it
30:19anti anything i've never betted on anything in my life
30:24so nor will i ever
30:26you know i don't believe in it
30:27and certainly with crickets concerned i would not entertain it at all
30:30so that was my view
30:32i think if you're going to take risk and as a cricketer in those days or at any stage it's
30:36got to be really worth it well and i think every man's got his price
30:38and if he was interested in match fiction reminds a million pound this sterling so you can buy me for
30:44that
30:44we were curious to see whether the offer could be increased
30:50we were curious to see whether the offer could be increased
31:14he said to 250 000
31:15just think about it
31:17four south african cricketers are left
31:19the other guys have left the meeting
31:21they know that the team basically can't win
31:23yeah when we walked out the room that was the end of it
31:27it wasn't happening and that was it
31:29that was it was called off yeah
31:31they probably didn't even try and lose they lost anyway and they got
31:33and they collected the money
31:37well cronier said they didn't collect the money
31:39they definitely got the money
31:40they definitely collected the money
31:43that i'm sure about
31:46but as i said to you
31:48i'm always adamant that even the king commissioner hanshee protected people
31:51i would like you to disclose who the players were that were willing to consider that offer
31:56mr toy i'm trying to help you as best as i can
31:59i am not going to disclose the names of the other players as that would put them in a bad
32:05light
32:06what of course we didn't know is that hanshee took money
32:09i'm not going to disclose that i
32:11that wasn't because he was fixing matches but he just thought it was money for a rope
32:16walmer claimed to have given an account of this deeply compromising meeting
32:21in his report to the united cricket board at the end of the tour
32:27the fact they even entertained the phone call and discussed it
32:30was probably wrong in hindsight
32:33but at that particular time it was though we'd come of age
32:37you know they'd actually approached us
32:39we'd heard that they approached the subcontinent teams
32:46the world of cricket had changed
32:51power had shifted from lords to the subcontinent of india and pakistan
32:55which had the crowds the big money and sports betting
33:05you know if one looks at cricket in south africa amongst the different communities that have played it
33:11the values that the world associates with cricket have been part and parcel
33:16and cheating is not a part of that
33:20one felt cheated by what he had done
33:24you go to watch these major games of cricket feeling that everybody's doing their absolute utmost to win
33:30that is the appeal of cricket at its highest level that you've got the top players in each country striving
33:36their utmost to win this game
33:38to feel that this was really a sham was a tough thing to swallow
33:43old-fashioned eight ball over
33:45the next game under the microscope had previously been seen as one of hansi cronier's great moments
33:51the test match against england at centurion park in 2000
33:55when his decision reignited a game ruined by rain
34:02the fifth test match between england and south africa was held at centurion park
34:08from the 14th to the 18th of january 2000
34:12the leather jacket test as the media calls it
34:15because he was given a leather jacket for his wife by marlon arenstead
34:20but the game at centurion went down for a time as one of the great games of cricket in the
34:29history of cricket
34:29it should have been until people started finding out that i was involved
34:35it was the last match of a series which south africa had already clinched 2-0
34:40the game started the heavens opened rained almost non-stop for the next three days
34:47the game appeared to all intents and purposes to have died
34:52i remember watching the rainfall for three days
34:56immense sense of frustration you know at the game not moving forward
35:01so the game was looking like it was going to be rained off no
35:04looks like it was history
35:07because they've only played 20 percent of the game and there's one day to go
35:13i received a call on my cell phone
35:16the caller identified himself as marlon arensten
35:20i'm not sure of the spelling
35:22i was shocked
35:24i was shocked in a way they didn't even see me
35:27but i was gloating to friends of mine because they all told me i was mad prior to this happening
35:32they all told me that cricket's a straight game and i used to tell them it's not straight
35:36something's happening something's wrong
35:37i do not know where he got my cell phone number
35:40and i had not previously heard of or spoken to him
35:44so the first time you ever spoke to him was uh... on the night of the fourth day
35:50we chatted for a while
35:52marlon said that he was a cricket lover and wanted to see action on the field
35:56it was done initially as a joke
35:58he said that my image as a captain was poor
36:01and that i was being perceived as a conservative and negative captain
36:05we spoke for a long time
36:07marlon urged me to speak to nasa hussein the english captain
36:10about an early declaration to make a contest of it
36:13it's exciting at least better than no game
36:16each side forfeits one innings
36:19it had never been done in a test match
36:22he said great idea i'll let you know in the morning
36:24marlon said that if we declared and made a game of it
36:27he would give 500,000 rand to a charity of my choice
36:31and would also give me a gift
36:33and the charity was just because he was a christian
36:36no i would have given
36:37if there was betting i would have given it to any charity they won
36:39made no difference
36:40any charity could have had the money
36:42because we could have made
36:43had they been betting we could have won
36:44we could have made millions
36:46we got to the ground
36:49assuming that all we'd be seeing was the last rites of a very boring draw
36:52and suddenly i get a text message
36:54and up until that stage i'd never seen a text message in my life
36:57cell phones were new
36:58and the message came through we have a game
37:01and that's when i drove off to centurion to watch
37:04and i think we have a declaration
37:08the game appeared to be heading for a draw
37:11but cronia had secretly agreed to do just what the bookmaker had asked
37:16he got the england captain nasa hussein to agree to forfeit the england innings
37:21if south africa were to do the same
37:23this created the likelihood of a shock result
37:26and therefore a magnificent betting opportunity
37:29did anyone on the england side know that this was happening
37:33nasa knew
37:34oh that what was happening
37:37that you were orchestrating
37:39no no no he just went to nasa and said listen if i declare will you declare let's make a
37:43game
37:44initially nasa said no
37:46and they had to agree a target at the end
37:49i thought the target was generous
37:50for the first time ever
37:51both innings is from south africa and england have been forfeited
37:55and i phoned friends and i said yeah
37:57i've been telling you all along cricket's not a straight game
38:00england have to chase 249 runs off 76 overs
38:04and what a good idea that it was progressive and forward thinking
38:08this is the first time ever
38:10this is the first time ever
38:11that teams have forfeited the innings
38:12in a test match
38:14words put out there's a declaration in pretoria
38:16and the market opened again
38:18in india
38:19in india
38:19the match is between england and south africa
38:22but the only betting in the world is in india
38:24court
38:27so suddenly the market in india opens and what happened
38:31millions of dollars are turned over again
38:33south africa's small south africa will get five thousand dollars ten thousand dollars
38:37in india
38:38in india
38:40probably got a
38:40must have
38:41a couple of thousand people betting in excess of a hundred thousand dollar bets
38:45back in the team to win or lose
38:48and it's 28 for one
38:50the intricacies of how it works were just lost on us
38:53you know the fact that you could make a lot of money betting on a result rather than a draw
38:58any result doesn't matter boom he has the money
39:01the england captain walks to the wicket
39:03or line betting the score in the next ten overs
39:06or what herschel gibbs might score
39:08good shot
39:08or what south africa might score
39:09how many overs they might take
39:10all these permutations that you could place bets on
39:13all the way and he'll get four for it
39:14that hadn't sunk in how complicated this whole match fixing thing is
39:18in the air
39:19brilliantly caught by herschel gibbs
39:22that is the breakthrough that south africa wandered
39:25nasa hussein the england
39:27did you make money on it
39:28um i made a little bit yes
39:30but i made it because i just traded the position
39:33all three all three results were favorite at one stage
39:36and then suddenly it came
39:38suddenly the run started to flourish
39:40and england went for it
39:41in one over vaughan hit i think it was two fours in a row
39:46good shot by vaughan
39:48and suddenly it looked like if they keep going england
39:50they might be able to win it
39:51lovely lovely
39:52in the next minute five runs over
39:53and suddenly it became
39:55more of the most handsome
39:56reasonable that they can win
39:58and his first test match 50
40:0158 of 68
40:02crania brought himself onto bow
40:04to ensure that a shock result remained on the cards
40:07four more runs is going to help a plenty
40:10and did you know what the result was going to be
40:12no we never the result was always win lose or draw
40:15nobody knew who would win the game
40:16from crania just short enough though
40:18and then wickets fell
40:20and this africa looked like they could win it
40:24caught behind
40:30well done kirsten lovely throw
40:33all i did is basically make a game over ten
40:35let's go and play
40:38he's giving him out
40:39now some tension
40:40from a fair amount giving me a challenge saying
40:42it's not possible
40:43finished up happening
40:45caddy goes for north
40:48england
40:48still favourites
40:50in my book
40:51all the time that vaughan is there
40:54bowled him
40:56he's bowled him out
40:58michael vaughan goes
40:59put under pressure
41:01by some dot balls
41:03and even hansie said to me he said he made one mistake
41:05off the second last over
41:08he said he should have given away a single
41:09and taken whoever scored the winning run off strike
41:11and he said that was his error
41:13pulled away by garth for four
41:15and england win the fifth test match of this five test series
41:20because england won you know
41:21england thought they'd won
41:23put it that way
41:25and it was a thrilling day's cricket
41:27set up by declaration earlier in the day
41:30and then two innings forfeited
41:33but what wonderful entertainment there's been
41:36hansie was dying to win the match
41:37it was meant everything seemed to win the match
41:39the players earn more money if they win than if they lose
41:42he was full out going for a win
41:45here was a test match ruined by rain
41:47and the south african captain had made a most generous declaration
41:50what could be more sporting
41:51he was praised to the heavens
41:53a great moral lesson was drawn
41:55there were pats on the back all around
42:01values are enshrined in those sports
42:03if somebody does something well
42:04we say this as a symbol of goodness
42:07what did he receive from you?
42:10he received the leather jacket
42:13after the game Marlon visited me at the sand and sun
42:16I think it was the following evening
42:18where we were staying
42:20and gave me a leather jacket and 50,000 rand in two cash amounts
42:24it was valentine's day
42:25he told me he hadn't bought his wife a present
42:27so I gave him a jacket to give his wife
42:28and three grand
42:31he said it was in consideration of me giving him information in the future
42:35and how was he when he received the money?
42:37he was ecstatic
42:38thank you very much
42:40what, in a brown paper envelope? how do you do it?
42:42I met him with my son
42:43we went for breakfast together
42:45it wasn't like we were hiding anything
42:46there was nothing
42:48never thought about anything
42:49I never ever
42:50it wasn't like we were saying
42:51hey, it's like
42:54a person owns a racehorse
42:56anybody's involved in racing
42:57everybody tries to get tips from the jockeys or the trainers
43:00it happens every day
43:02you're just looking for the slight edge
43:04there were found to be 72 bank accounts
43:07co-signed by W.J. Cronier
43:10and A.N. Other
43:11and the A.N. Other
43:13happened to be prominent players in cricket throughout the world
43:16which conjured a theory of Hansi Cronier being the godfather of Matchfix
43:22after we became friendly we used to speak everyday
43:25discuss cricket
43:26I told him, I said listen
43:27at the moment your team is playing very stale
43:31I said Boucher should be betting at 3
43:32let's try something different
43:35next minute I see the open line at Boucher's at number 3
43:39he's listening to what I'm telling him to do
43:40once you've turned that tap on
43:42and you are now linked with Crigger's underworld
43:45they're not simply going to go away
43:47he came back and said how else can I make money
43:52and what was your answer?
43:54he said the ball's in your court
43:56he said you must serve the ace
44:01and they were on their way to the heart of betting, India
44:07Nagpur, the city of oranges, looking a picture today
44:10the outfield and pitch are wonderful
44:12he said to me that we can organise your throw a one day game in India
44:16I said if you want to I'll introduce you to one of the biggest bookmakers in India
44:20who will organise your present for anything you organise
44:23driven by greed and stupidity and the lure of easy money
44:27of course the great irony is that when he needed players to corrupt
44:30who did he head for?
44:32two black players in his team
44:33Herschel Gibbs and Henry Williams
44:35I spoke to Herschel Gibbs and Henry Williams as described
44:39which I think also tells us something about Cronier
44:41he knew that he could bully those better than most
44:46I was required to ensure that Gibbs would score less than 20 runs
44:50that Williams would bow poorly and go for more than 50 runs during his turnovers
44:55and that the total score should be no more than 270 more runs
44:59it was truly sensational stuff
45:01I mean the Herschel Gibbs confession that he had agreed to take money
45:05in return for throwing his wicket away
45:07Henry Williams for bowling badly
45:13one of the things that always rankled with me particularly with Cronier
45:15was not just his greed and his dishonesty per se for himself
45:18but the way he abused his position of trust in relation to the younger players in his team
45:23who looked upon him as a god almost
45:26and so how the way he sucked in for example Herschel Gibbs
45:29was a naive young man at the time
45:31and contaminated his approach to life
45:33now that's even more serious in my view
45:37I mean Herschel Gibbs was meant to throw his wicket
45:39and he came and played a blunder
45:42so did any of them actually really throw the game?
45:45The problem was that Herschel Gibbs
45:47the effervescent batsman that Cronier had agreed would underperform
45:51was playing magnificently
45:54the fifth one international was not fixed or thrown
45:57once we went onto the field
45:59we were not able to carry out the plan
46:01well that's the end of another productive ava for South Africa
46:04Cronier explained the apparent contradiction thus
46:08surely if you were told to get less than 20
46:12you get 73 or 53 balls
46:14then obviously you entertained the thought you were tempted
46:17but you never followed through
46:19yeah but he forgot about it but that's a different story
46:21but the fact that he's already been predetermined
46:23that he will get out at 20
46:25and he's agreed that for a price
46:27is a negation of the whole sport
46:31sport is based on everybody's trying the hardest
46:34he's doing his best
46:35whether he's capable of doing the best or not
46:37is a different matter
46:37but he's doing the best
46:38and he's not directed by anybody else
46:41I adore this little bloke
46:42When India batted
46:43the new South African fast bowler Henry Williams
46:46opened the bowling
46:47and Cronier's deal was that he would bowl badly
46:50it was an opportunity that Hunzi had
46:52he was given power
46:53and he in a sense he usurped power
46:55and he used that for his personal benefit
46:58to the detriment of younger players in the team as well
47:02right here we go
47:03this was how Williams first over went
47:06that's a wide
47:08that's a wide
47:11and then the really wide one the last one
47:13so three wide deliveries
47:17you know the story of Cronier is of a white man
47:21continuing to abuse his position
47:23often at the cost of black players
47:26contaminating the game
47:27where it should have been blossoming
47:30and then he cheated them as well
47:32your evidence is that on the previous night
47:35you had agreed with Sanjay
47:37that the players would get 25,000 US dollars each
47:40okay
47:41the following day
47:43you offer
47:45Mr. Gibbs and Mr. Williams
47:4615,000 US dollars each
47:48why did you do that?
47:50you had already agreed with Sanjay
47:52that they could get 25
47:54maybe I was trying to cut something for myself
47:57all this very good boss
47:59all for the white boss
48:00all for the white boss
48:01and if you look at Cronier's mathematics
48:03and his dealings with Henry Williams
48:05and Herschel Gibbs
48:05that sort of tends to paint the picture quite clearly
48:08I think
48:08he wasn't even going to give them all their money
48:11there wasn't even honor amongst thieves
48:13at some time
48:14when you're listening to that king commission
48:15I think Rashi agreed more than anything else
48:19I do like money
48:22I'm not trying to get away from that
48:24the devil made me do it
48:26and I've always been a greedy boy
48:27what was the other one?
48:28I made a mistake
48:31I beg the commission
48:32and the cricketing authorities
48:35to reinstate both Herschel
48:36and Henry to the national side
48:40Herschel lied to the United Cricket Board
48:42at my request
48:44Herschel forgive me
48:51the way he presented it
48:52was a human failing
48:54that he loved money
48:55and he did these things
48:56but he insisted
48:57that he hadn't thrown a match
49:00I gave everything for my country
49:03yes
49:04I accepted money from bookmakers
49:06yes
49:07I was trying to feed them information
49:10yes
49:10I spoke to the players
49:12before the match in 1996
49:16but I promise you
49:17every time I walked into the field
49:19I gave my all for South Africa
49:20it must have dawned on him
49:23just how serious it all was
49:25have you disclosed everything?
49:27yes
49:28and right at the end
49:29he was in tears
49:30in his last few minutes
49:31on the stand
49:32and had to be helped away
49:34there was this icon of athleticism
49:37he needed two people
49:38to help him away from the stand
49:39one of them was his brother
49:40you know
49:41to basically carry him off
49:42as if he was injured
49:43and I suppose he was injured
49:45in a lot of ways
49:49he always did have money problems
49:51that he was obsessed by money
49:53and um
49:56I've always wondered why he
49:58he did this
49:59and I guess some of these
50:01international stars
50:02really get a sense of
50:04omnipotence
50:05it's new adrenaline in life
50:10should have denied everything
50:11are there really any tapes?
50:13was it a game of poker
50:14by the Indian police?
50:17I told him
50:17I don't believe there are tapes
50:19the information I was given from India
50:21there are no tapes
50:22today we've never heard a tape
50:25what I believe happened is
50:27the people that he conspired with
50:29got very cross
50:31they lost their money
50:32he didn't deliver the goods
50:33that he was meant to
50:34for these people
50:36and they went and reported him
50:38to the authorities
50:39and they told the authorities
50:40what was said
50:44now we took no personal joy
50:46in his discomfiture
50:48but we thought it was
50:49tremendously important
50:50in terms of corruption
50:51that South Africans
50:53could see prominent people
50:54being brought to account
50:55and having to
50:56in a sense suffer
50:57and pay a price
50:59for their misdemeanour
51:00because that's essential
51:01you can't clean things up
51:02if you do it in secret
51:05what happened was
51:06a bit like the Truth
51:07and Reconciliation Commission
51:08it was a very important
51:09public ritual almost
51:12but there was an element
51:13of public catharsis
51:14which was useful
51:16but where did it lead to?
51:21the judge's final report
51:22was pretty weak
51:23and didn't make any strong
51:25conclusions or recommendations
51:28the King Commission itself
51:29the King Commission itself
51:29was an exercise
51:30in sweeping the thing
51:31under the carpet
51:32and we've added the issue
51:33and now let's forget about it
51:34and move on
51:35why it suddenly closed up
51:37without looking at the evidence
51:38I don't know
51:40the feeling was that
51:41enough had been done
51:42that Hansi Kronje
51:43had been shamed
51:44South Africa had paid a surprise
51:47Kronje was banned from cricket
51:48for life
51:50Hansi Kronje was more or less
51:52destroyed as a man
51:53after that commission
51:55but people did equate
51:56what happened
51:56to Hansi Kronje
51:57with what they saw
51:58as some sort of emasculation
52:00of white society
52:00in South Africa
52:02but he did seem
52:03to finally settle down
52:04to a life of golf shirts
52:05and chinos
52:06and helmet five honey
52:10on the Saturday morning
52:11when I came from gym
52:12his wife phoned and said
52:13Mr. Forsett
52:14I think something terrible
52:15is wrong
52:16Hansi's planes disappeared
52:18breaking news
52:20some tragic news
52:21from South Africa
52:22Hansi Kronje
52:23has been killed
52:24in a plane crash
52:25close to his home
52:28in George
52:29in South Africa
52:30this is indeed
52:31tragic news
52:32for Hansi's family
52:36Hansi Kronje
52:37who had such a mercurial life
52:39dying in an air crash
52:40in South Africa
52:426.45 this morning
52:43local time
52:44there was a small plane
52:45only two others with him
52:46on the plane
52:47but Hansi Kronje
52:48we can now confirm
52:49he is no longer with us
52:51it was pretty much like
52:53the reaction to
52:54Princess Diana's death
52:55in a South African context
52:57the nation mourned
52:59this fallen son
53:00public grief
53:02crying in shopping malls
53:05his death was really felt
53:06it really was
53:09and of course it was a tragedy
53:10for his family
53:12but I think the greater tragedy
53:14for South African cricket
53:15had come a year earlier
53:15with his fall from grace
53:19he was 33 years old
53:29I can tell you
53:30maybe three months before he died
53:31I had supper with him
53:32at his house in Fancourt
53:34and as we were all leaving
53:36he took me aside
53:36he said I just want you to know
53:37one thing coach
53:38as God is my witness
53:41alright
53:41he said I never fixed a game
53:43for South Africa
53:46never fixed a match
53:47he said I know I did wrong
53:48I know I took money
53:49but I never fixed a match
53:50and you know
53:52the power of that statement
53:53can only be understood
53:54if you were there at the time
53:56and there were tears in his eyes
53:58you see
53:58so you know
53:59no one could really understand
54:00that statement
54:01and very few people believe me
54:03in fact Michael Parkinson
54:04was downright rude
54:05in the newspaper article once
54:06and said that
54:07thank God
54:08Woolmer isn't going to coach England
54:11you are going to coach England
54:14what will be will be I'm sure
54:18this is the wall of remembrance
54:20where old boys can have their ashes
54:21placed after their death
54:24I will always remember him with
54:25unfortunately with a great deal of sadness
54:27because of what happened
54:30despite all the evidence
54:31people weren't prepared to condemn him
54:33and of course when he died
54:34the sense that he had been a victim
54:36I suppose was enhanced
54:38he was really a national icon
54:43they've made this man an icon
54:45when in fact he was a profound failure
54:50I simply think that this was just a tragic flaw
54:53in a young man's life
54:55you know it was just greed
54:57he wanted money
55:00you know because
55:02he was such a thoroughly decent chap
55:04you know if you look at his family background
55:06and upbringing and so on
55:07he had everything
55:08I mean he had the money
55:09he was not short of money
55:10as national captain
55:14but there's no question
55:15that it was an immense
55:16body blow to cricket
55:17crowds have evaporated
55:19there is not the same enthusiasm
55:21for cricket
55:22any longer
55:27oh but I didn't keep your shoulder
55:29at the line my son
55:30your shoulder must go first
55:33but I'm not as enthusiastic
55:34as I used to be when I was young
55:36and I think the thing of Hansi's
55:37had much to do with that
55:39you know
55:40you know when money talks
55:41even the angels listen
55:47today with the emergence of 2020 cricket
55:50there is more money than ever
55:52at stake
55:52the question is this
55:54have the lessons of the Konya affair
55:56been learned
55:59I'm sure it's still going
56:03until they start paying cricketers
56:04until they start paying cricketers
56:05not equivalent to soccer players
56:07but on a much higher level
56:09you'll never clean the cricket market out
56:11there's too much money involved
56:15but the Konya is getting into it
56:17yeah
56:24there's too much money
56:25and the other
56:30yeah
56:30yeah
56:30yeah
56:43Next tonight on BBC Four,
56:45we meet the contenders for the Samuel Johnson Prize 2008.
56:49Stay with us.
57:31Wednesday at 9 on BBC Four.
57:33They have money.
57:35Oil. Oil is everything.
57:37You can't pin money as fast as you can get oil out of the ground.
57:40Power.
57:41They're trying to pin global warming on us.
57:42Never apologise, never explain.
57:45How long have we got?
57:46Between five and ten years before the warming becomes unstoppable.
57:50But if they play with fire...
57:52The girl has turned your head.
57:54We all get burnt.
57:57You don't understand what you're getting into.
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