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00:00:00Hi, I'm Mike Vrainey from Something Weird Video

00:00:02and with me is...

00:00:04Jimmy Maslin, Shock Films

00:00:07Herschel Garden Lewis, the director

00:00:09And Dave Friedman, the producer

00:00:11Excuse me for stepping on your line

00:00:12You always do

00:00:14Well, it's good to have us all together here

00:00:17Let's start talking about this masterpiece

00:00:20This epic, this...

00:00:22You're sounding wry, Michael

00:00:24But this is my favorite movie

00:00:26of all the ones we did

00:00:28Incidentally, right here

00:00:29We're Ben Moore lifting this thing out

00:00:31and throwing it in the ditch

00:00:31and jumping in

00:00:33Turned out we had a rattlesnake in that ditch

00:00:36And too bad it didn't bite him

00:00:38I swear

00:00:40But no, this was certainly

00:00:42the favorite of the seven pictures

00:00:45that Herschel and I did together

00:00:47in our partnership

00:00:49and certainly was

00:00:50by the standards of exploitation

00:00:53was a very spectacular picture

00:00:56I can remember when this picture

00:00:59was finished and I sent it out for Dan Sonney

00:01:01to look at

00:01:03for the 13 Western States rights

00:01:05he called me up and said

00:01:07that thing looks like it was made at MGM

00:01:09I mean by the standards of others

00:01:11Yeah, more is grocery market

00:01:13You know, we have had many, many times

00:01:16when people ask us what this picture cost

00:01:17we would be somewhat obfuscatory

00:01:19and say that it costs

00:01:21oh, under half a million

00:01:23and they'd say, oh, all right

00:01:24uh-huh

00:01:24They had no idea

00:01:26because this does have production value

00:01:28Now here is our famous

00:01:29Famous banner

00:01:30Pleasant Valley Centennial

00:01:32which we set up in St. Cloud, Florida

00:01:34We came out of a little hotel one day

00:01:36and here were these two old guys

00:01:37because in those days

00:01:38St. Cloud was not part of the Disney empire

00:01:40it was a sleepy little retirement village

00:01:43These fellows were looking at this banner up there

00:01:46and one said to the other

00:01:48I wonder why this Pleasant Valley

00:01:51is having its centennial here

00:01:52St. Cloud

00:01:54And the other one

00:01:54was about a year before

00:01:56the year we had on the banner

00:01:57He says, I wonder why

00:01:58they put their banner up so early

00:02:01But this town really did pitch in

00:02:03St. Cloud

00:02:04Does this town still exist here?

00:02:06Oh, yes

00:02:07St. Cloud and Kissimmee

00:02:08are the two adjuncts now to Disney World

00:02:11What about the street?

00:02:12I had not been back there

00:02:14so I don't know

00:02:15This is all gone

00:02:16This banjo player is Paul Champion

00:02:19who really was a champion banjo player

00:02:22The fellow on the guitar

00:02:23was Chuck Glor

00:02:25who used the name Chuck Scott

00:02:27and he became the principal

00:02:30in a movie called Moonshine Mountain

00:02:32Who's singing the theme song here?

00:02:34I am

00:02:36The reason I'm singing this theme song, Jim

00:02:39is because we didn't want

00:02:40our standard reason

00:02:42we didn't want to pay anybody else

00:02:43and it's done in that Rex Harrison manner

00:02:46that you find from My Fair Lady

00:02:49where it's not really the melody

00:02:50but there's a story you should know

00:02:53from a hundred years ago

00:02:54and it came off

00:02:56I think very, very well

00:02:58You remember we went over to the little recording studio

00:03:00in Orlando

00:03:02and recorded the thing that night

00:03:04We had everybody in the cast and crew

00:03:06to go, yee-haw!

00:03:09And it did work

00:03:10To this day, I will show up someplace

00:03:13and someone will start with a yee-haw on me

00:03:16From my understanding, this came out as a single

00:03:19A 45 at one point

00:03:21Do you know about that?

00:03:22I may have known that at one time

00:03:24I know that it now exists on a record

00:03:26that Rhino or somebody has put out

00:03:29It's on a big LP

00:03:30It's on a big LP

00:03:32It's on a big LP

00:03:32It's on a single from the 60s

00:03:34On a 45?

00:03:36Yeah, it's on a 45

00:03:36Terrific

00:03:37Now you notice the titles here

00:03:39were a huge step above the kind of titles

00:03:41we did in a movie like Blood Feast

00:03:43These were professionally made titles

00:03:44Because here we knew

00:03:46that we had discovered a mother load

00:03:50of a certain kind of motion picture

00:03:54And we were determined in this case

00:03:56to have two elements that we didn't have in Blood Feast

00:03:59One was production value

00:04:01And the other was attention to acting

00:04:04And I think it paid off in both directions

00:04:07This is about, this whole movie

00:04:09is about a small southern town

00:04:11that gets even for the Civil War

00:04:13That's Vincent Santo, I think his name is

00:04:15He dyed his hair

00:04:16This scene right here still kills him

00:04:18Where the implied

00:04:20Notice the freeze frame

00:04:23Again, we would not have done it

00:04:25That's my credit coming over the noose

00:04:26But basically

00:04:28I had seen a show in New York

00:04:30called Brigadoon

00:04:31And I'd come back

00:04:32and I was telling Herschel

00:04:33all about this show

00:04:35about this little Scottish town

00:04:37that came to life every hundred years

00:04:39And he said

00:04:41that would work with a little southern town

00:04:43that came to life

00:04:44to revenge the action

00:04:47of some renegade Yankees

00:04:48who had wiped out the town

00:04:50And that's where the story came from

00:04:52And I think

00:04:53in two or three days

00:04:55Herschel came back

00:04:55and we had the script

00:04:56for 2,000 Maniacs

00:04:59And this one did work

00:05:00All the characters in this

00:05:02Here's Ben Moore

00:05:03who was a problem

00:05:04of personality

00:05:05But a pretty good little actor

00:05:07Fine actor

00:05:08A pretty good little actor

00:05:09He would get into a role

00:05:11even the way he stands

00:05:12Look at the way he has his hands

00:05:15on the side of his father

00:05:16At the time he was a Marine

00:05:18He was an enlisted Marine

00:05:19And he lived up in Newburgh

00:05:21McCoy Air Force Base

00:05:22Or something

00:05:22And he'd been in the Air Force

00:05:23He spent his whole life

00:05:24in the military

00:05:26But he finally got out

00:05:28He came out to Hollywood

00:05:30I used him in She Freak

00:05:32I used him in Suburban Roulette

00:05:34That's right

00:05:34You had him in Suburban Roulette

00:05:35But I think his whole acting career

00:05:39No, it was in something else

00:05:41that I saw not too long ago

00:05:43on cable

00:05:44A picture that neither you

00:05:45nor I made

00:05:46that he was in

00:05:47Something that took place

00:05:49on a beach

00:05:49And he was the villain

00:05:56But he was a pretty

00:05:58In fact, most of the cast

00:06:00of this thing

00:06:01That's where he practically

00:06:03stepped on a rattlesnake

00:06:04You see, Ben was a good actor

00:06:06He stayed in character

00:06:06And I heard somebody

00:06:07later on say

00:06:08Here's a snake down here

00:06:09I said, we're not going to pay him

00:06:12Connie Mason is driving

00:06:14And that was always

00:06:15a perilous proposition

00:06:17Jerry Eden had

00:06:19rebooted these cars

00:06:20from some local dealer

00:06:21in exchange for having

00:06:22the cars in the movie

00:06:24An early example

00:06:25of product placement

00:06:26And as she drives

00:06:28into the town

00:06:29Connie quickly drove

00:06:30into a brick wall

00:06:33And I think it cost us

00:06:34a couple of hundred dollars

00:06:35to get it fixed

00:06:37But most of the cast

00:06:41outside of Connie

00:06:42and the Steve

00:06:47Kerwin, Bill Kerwin

00:06:48who we brought down

00:06:50and Shelby

00:06:51that we brought down

00:06:53we picked up

00:06:54from the little theater

00:06:55in Orlando

00:06:55Another one we didn't

00:06:57was Jeffrey Allen

00:06:59whose real name

00:07:00was Talkie Blank

00:07:01a fine, fine adult actor

00:07:03from Chicago

00:07:04Chicago

00:07:04who played the mayor

00:07:06He played the mayor

00:07:06and we used him

00:07:08repeatedly after that

00:07:09He really knew

00:07:09how to get his hands

00:07:10on a role

00:07:12What other films

00:07:13was he in?

00:07:13He was in

00:07:14This Stuff Will Kill You

00:07:16He was in

00:07:19What else was Talkie Blank

00:07:21in or Jeffrey Allen

00:07:22He was in

00:07:24I've forgotten at the moment

00:07:25What was your color?

00:07:25I noticed this sign

00:07:26at the end of the picture

00:07:27we have a little effect

00:07:28which we got as a bonus

00:07:29when they come rushing

00:07:30out of the town

00:07:31with that little sign

00:07:33and blows over

00:07:33And we hadn't planned that

00:07:36but the effect of the wind

00:07:38from the car going past

00:07:39blew that sign over

00:07:40It was perfect

00:07:41Notice this effect

00:07:42that dissolved

00:07:43You can tell

00:07:44a laboratory dissolved

00:07:46from our camera dissolve

00:07:47because the color

00:07:48changed slightly

00:07:49The town of St. Cloud

00:07:51was so cooperative

00:07:52they gave us

00:07:53a cherry picker

00:07:55to give us this high shot

00:07:57Everybody in the town

00:07:58practically was in this scene

00:08:00which we shot on a Sunday

00:08:01to get as many people out

00:08:03as we possibly could

00:08:04In fact, it was a small town

00:08:06We originally had titled

00:08:07this thing 5,000 Maniacs

00:08:09Until we got to

00:08:09Until we got there

00:08:10And we found it was

00:08:11Oh, there weren't that many

00:08:12So we called it 2,000 Maniacs

00:08:13We think it's a little

00:08:14more intimate anyway

00:08:15We had taken over

00:08:16the whole

00:08:17this old hotel

00:08:18And we took it over

00:08:20Yeah

00:08:20All the rooms

00:08:21We rented

00:08:21Now, how'd you guys

00:08:22find this place?

00:08:24It's just a little speck

00:08:25on the map

00:08:26It's all it is

00:08:26is a little speck

00:08:27on the map

00:08:27And we were looking

00:08:28and Dave was

00:08:30doing some business

00:08:31in Charlotte

00:08:33because we had determined

00:08:35to shoot this

00:08:35in the Orlando area

00:08:37And there were two towns

00:08:38that were recommended to us

00:08:39One was St. Cloud

00:08:40and the other was Kissimmee

00:08:42Kissimmee

00:08:42And so I went to St. Cloud

00:08:45and I talked to the mayor

00:08:46there

00:08:46who was absolutely

00:08:48delighted

00:08:49that we were going

00:08:49to shoot a movie

00:08:50in his town

00:08:51We made up a bunch

00:08:52of credits

00:08:52because the only thing

00:08:53we really had to point

00:08:54to at that time

00:08:55was Blood Feast

00:08:56I didn't want to do that

00:08:57but once they got

00:08:58into the spirit

00:08:59of this

00:09:00this town could not

00:09:01have been more cooperative

00:09:03as I'll show you

00:09:04when we have that scene

00:09:05at old Teeter and Rock

00:09:07Now there's Jeffrey Allen

00:09:08real name

00:09:08Talkie Blank

00:09:09at the left edge

00:09:11He's the mayor

00:09:12and you talk about

00:09:13a good actor

00:09:14this guy can get

00:09:14into a role

00:09:15I'll tell you a funny thing too

00:09:16He was also in

00:09:17Year of the Yahoo

00:09:18that was the other

00:09:19Why you pretty little

00:09:20gag gal

00:09:21I didn't say

00:09:22waiting for you

00:09:23I said waiting on you

00:09:26I'll tell you a funny thing too

00:09:28we used him

00:09:29in so many pictures

00:09:30and he was a problem child

00:09:32but the Mr. Jerome Eden

00:09:35or Jerry Green

00:09:37or Jerry Stallion

00:09:38or whatever name

00:09:39he was not that bad

00:09:41an actor

00:09:41No

00:09:41Real little operator

00:09:42he had come out there

00:09:44and he was very good

00:09:45in that

00:09:46in a picture called

00:09:47Defilers

00:09:47but the guy could act

00:09:49Oh yeah

00:09:50I heard he's a talent agent

00:09:52now

00:09:52I heard he's a talent agent

00:09:53I'm not sure

00:09:54that's true anymore

00:09:55somebody

00:09:55some local

00:09:58talk show host

00:09:59said that he

00:09:59was his agent

00:10:01when he was on the air

00:10:02in Orlando

00:10:02but that was a long

00:10:03long time ago

00:10:04Somebody ran into him

00:10:05a couple years ago

00:10:06Eric Caden

00:10:06Oh really

00:10:08Yeah

00:10:08there's an agency

00:10:09in Beverly Hills

00:10:09or something

00:10:10But he'd been appearing

00:10:12in some ads

00:10:13for Hair Restore

00:10:15that were running

00:10:16in fact

00:10:16I think I sent you

00:10:17a couple of them

00:10:18You did

00:10:19So the town

00:10:20just opened its doors

00:10:21to you

00:10:22rolled out the red carpet

00:10:23It opened its heart

00:10:24I mean

00:10:25anything and everything

00:10:26we wanted

00:10:27Now that girl

00:10:28is Shelby Livingston

00:10:30who gets killed

00:10:31early in the picture

00:10:34She was a good actress too

00:10:35She was a good actress too

00:10:36She was a nice actress

00:10:37And this fellow

00:10:38he used the name

00:10:39Mark something

00:10:39in the picture

00:10:40but his real name

00:10:41was Bill something

00:10:42and he was the

00:10:43my remembrance of him

00:10:44he was the first person

00:10:45I knew

00:10:45who drove a car

00:10:47with a diesel engine

00:10:48But these people

00:10:49all put out

00:10:51in terms of acting

00:10:52they got into their roles

00:10:54and that was a very

00:10:55pleasant thing to see

00:10:56There's Vincent Santo

00:10:57waving his noose

00:10:58Little monster

00:10:58but he could act too

00:11:00Yes indeed

00:11:01How many days

00:11:02were the shoot?

00:11:03I think the principal

00:11:05photography here

00:11:05was 14 days

00:11:06which is a lot

00:11:07of time for us

00:11:08That is a lot

00:11:09That is a lot

00:11:09And we had a problem

00:11:10one day

00:11:11because I think

00:11:12it was the first day

00:11:13of shooting

00:11:14Our laboratory

00:11:15then was in New York

00:11:16or somewhere

00:11:17We had rented

00:11:19a camera

00:11:20the second camera

00:11:21which was an Aeroflex

00:11:23and somebody had left

00:11:25an 85B filter in it

00:11:28which didn't really show

00:11:29as we looked through it

00:11:30because it looked realistic

00:11:31and we

00:11:32over

00:11:32so that caused it

00:11:33to be one stop off

00:11:35all the way through

00:11:36but there were a handful

00:11:37of shots we had

00:11:38We knew the mix

00:11:39on this picture

00:11:40in Washington

00:11:41at Capitol

00:11:42Yeah

00:11:42We mixed this picture

00:11:43at Capitol

00:11:43Here comes the second car load

00:11:45Now she almost

00:11:46that kid that was

00:11:48in the middle

00:11:49that she almost ran over

00:11:50Oh yeah

00:11:50Well this was after

00:11:51she had scraped that building

00:11:52and we had to shoot it

00:11:53from one angle only

00:11:54to make sure

00:11:55we didn't show that

00:11:56Here too

00:11:57we ran out of time

00:11:59and if you'll look

00:12:00at the way this works

00:12:01you can

00:12:02if you look for it

00:12:04tell where

00:12:05Jeffrey Allen

00:12:06the mayor

00:12:08begins to talk

00:12:09and there's nobody

00:12:10there anymore

00:12:11We shot it

00:12:11the next day

00:12:12and the crowd

00:12:13had dispersed

00:12:14So we're on

00:12:16close-ups of him

00:12:17which

00:12:18it worked out

00:12:19very very nicely

00:12:21but

00:12:22we had to

00:12:23come back

00:12:23for that

00:12:24and cheat

00:12:25There's the hotel

00:12:26in the back

00:12:26There's the hotel

00:12:27and that hotel

00:12:28We shot the master scene

00:12:29on Sunday

00:12:29when everybody

00:12:30was off work

00:12:31and couldn't

00:12:31come down

00:12:32and be in the shot

00:12:35This must have been

00:12:36the biggest thing

00:12:37that ever happened

00:12:38at this little

00:12:38neck of the woods

00:12:39Oh it was

00:12:39It was

00:12:40It was

00:12:41And I know

00:12:42I had to go over

00:12:43to

00:12:44Herz and I

00:12:45were a little worried

00:12:46and I said

00:12:46we better take

00:12:47some crowd insurance

00:12:48and there was

00:12:49big insurance

00:12:50big insurance

00:12:50guy selling insurance

00:12:52So I said

00:12:53we want to buy

00:12:54some crowd insurance

00:12:55tomorrow for about

00:12:56three hours

00:12:57and the guy said

00:12:58what's that

00:12:58and I said

00:12:59we'll call a company

00:13:00called House

00:13:01and Wilkerson

00:13:02in St. Petersburg

00:13:03they handle

00:13:04fairs and circuses

00:13:06and outdoor

00:13:07He called back

00:13:09and said

00:13:09well he says

00:13:10it's very expensive

00:13:11He said

00:13:11it'll cost you

00:13:12$200

00:13:12I said

00:13:13well we'll pay it

00:13:15So we insured

00:13:16the whole town

00:13:17that day

00:13:18that thank heavens

00:13:20we didn't have

00:13:20to call on

00:13:21Oh Linda

00:13:22Linda Cochran

00:13:23Good nice lady

00:13:25She too came out

00:13:27and came out

00:13:28to the coast

00:13:29and was into filers

00:13:32So this combination

00:13:33of sweetness

00:13:33and evil

00:13:34is very hard

00:13:35to capture

00:13:35we were able

00:13:36to do it

00:13:37Notice here

00:13:37the correlation

00:13:39between that scene

00:13:40you just saw

00:13:40and the same scene

00:13:41in Blood Feast

00:13:43the same two

00:13:44the same two

00:13:45performers

00:13:47Here we had to

00:13:48stay reasonably tight

00:13:49because we didn't

00:13:50have as much crowd

00:13:50as we had before

00:13:51but we did get

00:13:53the master shots

00:13:54when the crowd

00:13:55was all there

00:13:56and that was

00:13:56that Sunday

00:13:57afternoon

00:13:57You know

00:13:58the movie shows

00:13:59a lot of love

00:14:00for the South

00:14:01and the whole

00:14:01ambience

00:14:02of the South

00:14:03and you two

00:14:05must have had

00:14:06a fascination

00:14:07with this whole

00:14:07part of the country

00:14:08We absolutely do

00:14:11As you know

00:14:12Michael

00:14:13I taught English

00:14:15and Humanities

00:14:16at Mississippi State

00:14:17and I've always

00:14:18loved

00:14:19I love the South

00:14:20I love hillbilly music

00:14:21and this gave me

00:14:22a chance to

00:14:22cash it all in

00:14:24and of course

00:14:24Day was a

00:14:25southern boy

00:14:26anyway

00:14:27Well you've always

00:14:28thought I was

00:14:29a redneck

00:14:30but okay

00:14:32and of course

00:14:32after I retired

00:14:34where did I go

00:14:35but back to

00:14:35Anniston, Alabama

00:14:37Who was the

00:14:38partners involved

00:14:39in this movie?

00:14:40We had four

00:14:41partners

00:14:41the two of us

00:14:42a fellow named

00:14:44Sid Reach

00:14:44spelled R-E-I-C-H

00:14:46you'd think it'd be

00:14:47Reich

00:14:47but he pronounced it

00:14:48Reach

00:14:48he was the

00:14:49president of a

00:14:49company in

00:14:51Rochester, New York

00:14:52called Burns-O-Matic

00:14:53they made blow torches

00:14:54or paints

00:14:55maybe both

00:14:56and our fourth partner

00:14:58was the theater owner

00:14:59in Chicago

00:14:59named Stan Kohlberg

00:15:01and we had two companies

00:15:03that we used

00:15:04one was called

00:15:04Box Office Spectaculars

00:15:06the other was called

00:15:07Jacqueline Kay

00:15:09and Friedman Lewis Productions

00:15:11yeah

00:15:12Who was Jacqueline Kay?

00:15:13Jacqueline Kay was

00:15:14Kohlberg's wife

00:15:15Jackie

00:15:16Jackie Catherine Kohlberg

00:15:19was her name

00:15:21how Reich got interested

00:15:23in the film business

00:15:24he had invented

00:15:25this heater

00:15:26that drive-in theaters

00:15:28could use

00:15:29up north

00:15:30that in the

00:15:30wintertime

00:15:31that you hung it

00:15:33in your car

00:15:33and you could heat

00:15:34your car

00:15:35I remember that

00:15:36able drive-ins

00:15:37to stay in the north

00:15:38to stay open

00:15:39a little while

00:15:39being from Seattle

00:15:40we used to use

00:15:41those heaters

00:15:42in the drive-ins

00:15:44later on

00:15:45when the whole thing

00:15:45split up

00:15:46and we all sued Kohlberg

00:15:48Sid Reach and I

00:15:49made a picture together

00:15:50a taste of blood

00:15:52which was

00:15:53from a viewpoint

00:15:53of production value

00:15:54by far

00:15:55the most lavish thing

00:15:56I ever did

00:15:56it ran two hours

00:15:58and had a lot of

00:15:59good acting in it

00:16:01that's the one

00:16:01Bill Rogers was in

00:16:03but once Sid Reach

00:16:05died

00:16:05in the middle

00:16:06of all this litigation

00:16:07the whole thing collapsed

00:16:09now at the time

00:16:10that you

00:16:11which was the picture

00:16:11that you played

00:16:12the limey

00:16:15the cockney

00:16:16that was a taste of blood

00:16:17that was a taste of blood

00:16:18yeah I had hired

00:16:19a cockney

00:16:20to say

00:16:21evening mighty

00:16:22I'm your fit

00:16:22not for the devil

00:16:24and he didn't show up

00:16:25and we were shooting

00:16:26on this boat

00:16:27out in the middle

00:16:28of the docks

00:16:28in Dodge Island

00:16:29in Miami

00:16:30and the longshoremen

00:16:33said

00:16:33if you ain't

00:16:34off this boat

00:16:35by 7 o'clock

00:16:36I'm going to pitch

00:16:36your junk

00:16:37into the ocean

00:16:40so there was

00:16:40no choice

00:16:41and I borrowed

00:16:42some hair

00:16:43from one of our

00:16:43long haired

00:16:44crew members

00:16:45and made a mustache

00:16:46and pulled a big

00:16:48stocking cap

00:16:49over my head

00:16:50and became

00:16:50the limey sailor

00:16:52who said

00:16:52evening mighty

00:16:53I'm your fit

00:16:54not for the devil

00:16:55I figured

00:16:56well no one

00:16:57will ever know

00:16:57and we're mixing

00:16:58this sound

00:16:58and the sound guy

00:16:59said to me

00:17:00what are you doing

00:17:00in this

00:17:01I thought

00:17:02was that the only

00:17:03film you were in

00:17:03I was in Living Venus

00:17:05in a quick cameo

00:17:06not Hitchcock

00:17:08but there again

00:17:09it was just something

00:17:10where we had

00:17:10we simply had

00:17:11forgotten to hire

00:17:12an actor

00:17:13for a one liner

00:17:15so I took it

00:17:16but those are the only

00:17:17movies I was actually in

00:17:19you know I think

00:17:20these two guys

00:17:21played very well

00:17:21this is the one

00:17:23picture that you

00:17:24and I made together

00:17:25that I'm not in

00:17:26as a matter of fact

00:17:29but your presence

00:17:30is very much

00:17:30known in this

00:17:32Dave are you

00:17:33in Color Me Blood Red

00:17:33pardon

00:17:34are you in

00:17:35Color Me Blood Red

00:17:36are you in

00:17:37Color Me Blood Red

00:17:38he says

00:17:38I don't know

00:17:39that you're in that one

00:17:40no I don't think

00:17:41I got in that one either

00:17:42no

00:17:43but I'm in Blood Feast

00:17:45and

00:17:45a whole pile of others

00:17:47and a whole pile

00:17:49of others

00:17:49a whole pile of others

00:17:51here you get the flavor

00:17:52of what's going on

00:17:53in this movie

00:17:54long before

00:17:55the first effect

00:17:56one advantage

00:17:57that this picture has

00:17:58and it might be

00:18:00considered a disadvantage

00:18:01by some

00:18:01over a picture

00:18:02like Blood Feast

00:18:03is the first effect

00:18:05the first gore effect

00:18:07I'll call it

00:18:07in this movie

00:18:08catches the audience

00:18:09totally unaware

00:18:11they know there is

00:18:12evil in the air

00:18:13but they don't know

00:18:14how it's going

00:18:15to resolve itself

00:18:16I know exactly

00:18:17what you're saying

00:18:17because the first time

00:18:18I saw this

00:18:19I was very young

00:18:19and you were talking

00:18:20about the thumb scene

00:18:21I'm talking about

00:18:22the thumb scene

00:18:22that shocked

00:18:23the hell out of me

00:18:24it made my jaw drop

00:18:26I was just like

00:18:27what

00:18:27and it was

00:18:28the surprise aspect

00:18:30of it

00:18:30that made it work

00:18:31so well

00:18:31now that old hotel

00:18:33was one great

00:18:35great location

00:18:36it was

00:18:36they had the world's

00:18:38oldest telephone system

00:18:39which they had replaced

00:18:40but they left

00:18:41all the old stuff

00:18:42in there

00:18:42the old 1920s switchboard

00:18:46where you rang

00:18:47and you turned the crank

00:18:48typical old

00:18:49beat up phone

00:18:50and it looked perfect

00:18:51because we used them

00:18:52all in the scenes

00:19:10and this young fellow

00:19:12who played Shelby's wife

00:19:13he came from Orlando

00:19:14he was a nice kid

00:19:16a pretty fair actor too

00:19:17he was the one

00:19:18we rolled down

00:19:19in the barrel

00:19:21now speaking of the barrel

00:19:22you know the gimmicks

00:19:23in this movie

00:19:24have a very carnival

00:19:25kind of flavor to them

00:19:27well the barrel roll

00:19:28came right out

00:19:29of a fun house

00:19:30the bozo

00:19:34oh the rock

00:19:35the rock

00:19:36barrel roll

00:19:36and we were talking

00:19:37about this picture

00:19:40and my son Bob

00:19:41who came up

00:19:41with the idea

00:19:42of hammering nails

00:19:43through the barrel

00:19:43to roll the guy

00:19:44down the hill

00:19:45and I said uh oh

00:19:46this kid is not

00:19:47going to have

00:19:47that much of a curve

00:19:49but the effect

00:19:50did work

00:19:52and we as

00:19:54here again

00:19:54as always was the case

00:19:56we had a rollicking

00:19:58good time

00:19:58making these things

00:19:59you know the

00:19:59greatest thing

00:20:01we did in this picture

00:20:02was building that rock

00:20:03out of paper mache

00:20:04and that first close up

00:20:06I know Lee Frost

00:20:08when he saw the picture

00:20:09the first time

00:20:10Lee was a very talented

00:20:11director in Los Angeles

00:20:13he said

00:20:14that is a great looking rock

00:20:17here it is

00:20:17up on the top

00:20:18of this platform

00:20:19and you see the target

00:20:21even in paper mache

00:20:23that rock weighed 300 pounds

00:20:24yeah and Herschel

00:20:25was lying under there

00:20:27with an Aeroflakes camera

00:20:28while the damn thing

00:20:29was coming down

00:20:29I wanted the effect

00:20:30and we couldn't get

00:20:31anybody else to lie there

00:20:32and I didn't want

00:20:33to have some insurance

00:20:34claim from an actress

00:20:37I figured if it fell

00:20:38on me I'd heal

00:20:39but it worked out fine

00:20:40did either one of you

00:20:41ever get hurt

00:20:42in one of your movies

00:20:43you know

00:20:43like break a leg

00:20:45I fell off the hood

00:20:46of a convertible

00:20:47in an early movie

00:20:48but it was nothing

00:20:50of any great consequence

00:20:52you know you were

00:20:53a little elusive

00:20:54you guys were a little

00:20:57elusive about the budget

00:20:58what was the budget

00:20:59on this film

00:20:59we know Blood Feast

00:21:01was 24,500

00:21:02oh this was 62,000

00:21:0462,000

00:21:05and that's a lot of money

00:21:06that's like three times

00:21:07oh yeah

00:21:08we had had this conversation

00:21:10and we were firmly committed

00:21:11to making a picture

00:21:13that we could show

00:21:14to people

00:21:15without having to

00:21:17justify what we were doing

00:21:19by saying

00:21:19well you understand

00:21:20why we had to do this

00:21:21but we got no argument

00:21:23from our partners

00:21:24because by that point

00:21:26by the time we started this

00:21:28Blood Feast

00:21:29was an established phenomenon

00:21:31and money was pouring

00:21:33into that office

00:21:34from Blood Feast

00:21:35so when Herzl and I

00:21:37budgeted it out

00:21:38and I went over

00:21:39and said

00:21:39it's going to cost

00:21:41a little over 60,000

00:21:43got no argument

00:21:45the check was written

00:21:46right then and there

00:21:47we noticed this telephone

00:21:48that was on the wall

00:21:49they had painted over it

00:21:50of course it was dead

00:21:51but it was a perfect prop

00:21:53for us

00:21:54how did 2000 Maniacs

00:21:55do at the box office?

00:21:57it didn't do the business

00:21:58Blood Feast did

00:21:58but what it did

00:21:59was something altogether

00:22:00different psychologically

00:22:01and that is

00:22:02it established us

00:22:03as people who knew

00:22:04how to make a picture

00:22:06instead of just

00:22:07two schmucks

00:22:07aiming a camera

00:22:09Blood Feast

00:22:10a lot of people

00:22:11felt was an accident

00:22:11my god

00:22:12look at the ragged pan

00:22:13but in this

00:22:14nobody

00:22:15but you see

00:22:16my philosophy

00:22:18was nobody ever

00:22:19walked out of a theater

00:22:20because of a ragged pan

00:22:21nobody ever asked

00:22:22for their money back

00:22:23but they often

00:22:23walked out of theaters

00:22:24because they were

00:22:25not entertained

00:22:26and they never

00:22:27did that to us

00:22:28you know this movie

00:22:30even today

00:22:30it has a

00:22:32high entertainment value

00:22:33I think

00:22:34I agree with you

00:22:35works from beginning

00:22:36to end

00:22:36it actually

00:22:37actually also captures

00:22:39it's a great time capsule

00:22:40of the south

00:22:41at that moment

00:22:43yes

00:22:43thank you for that comment

00:22:44because that's exactly

00:22:46what we intended to do

00:22:47well for the first time

00:22:48too

00:22:48that we had

00:22:49brought together

00:22:50a very large ensemble

00:22:52of players

00:22:53in a picture

00:22:54this picture has

00:22:55a big cast

00:22:56now how were you

00:22:57feeding these guys

00:22:58what was

00:22:58what was that

00:22:59was there

00:22:59was this the point

00:23:01in your life

00:23:01where the Kentucky

00:23:02Fried Chicken

00:23:02was important

00:23:03this was before that

00:23:05there was no Kentucky

00:23:05Fried Chicken

00:23:06in St. Cloud

00:23:07there was this little hotel

00:23:09and across the street

00:23:10was a restaurant

00:23:12and every night

00:23:13we went across the street

00:23:15and fed these people

00:23:16which had a big benefit

00:23:18for us

00:23:19it kept the gang together

00:23:20and in a case like this

00:23:22where we said

00:23:23alright tonight

00:23:23everybody's going to go

00:23:24to the recording studio

00:23:25in Orlando

00:23:26and give some rebel yells

00:23:29people did

00:23:30they showed up

00:23:32now watch when he goes

00:23:33to the counter

00:23:33and look at that

00:23:34marvelous switchboard

00:23:35that this

00:23:37little girl candy

00:23:39what was it

00:23:40candy

00:23:40she was in

00:23:41Colony Blood Red

00:23:43she was

00:23:44a little girl

00:23:46look at that

00:23:47isn't that marvelous

00:23:48she was a pretty

00:23:50little thing

00:23:50yes

00:23:51and again

00:23:52very cooperative

00:23:52relative to the picture

00:23:54and a lot of these people

00:23:55when their parts were finished

00:23:56stayed around

00:23:59which has to be

00:24:00the ultimate compliment

00:24:02for a picture

00:24:03of this type

00:24:04it seems to me

00:24:05that it was

00:24:06partially due to budget

00:24:08and the amount of time

00:24:10you would do a project

00:24:11like this

00:24:12but it would create

00:24:12a family situation

00:24:14a very you know

00:24:16very happy

00:24:17pleasurable one

00:24:18to be in

00:24:19also it's like

00:24:20taking place

00:24:21in the part of the world

00:24:22that movies

00:24:23weren't being made

00:24:23so it was really special

00:24:25at the time

00:24:26this was made

00:24:27this was by far

00:24:28the most elaborate

00:24:30film ever done

00:24:31in the

00:24:31whole exploitation

00:24:33genre

00:24:34oh yeah

00:24:34we took trouble

00:24:35with lighting too

00:24:36which I hope you will notice

00:24:37because

00:24:37with our limited

00:24:39number of lights

00:24:40and the fact

00:24:41that if we plugged in

00:24:42one more light

00:24:42we'd blow out

00:24:43the whole hotel

00:24:46this was I think

00:24:49technically

00:24:51and from the viewpoint

00:24:52of acting

00:24:53a very good marriage

00:24:54that we were able

00:24:56to accomplish here

00:24:57now did it occur to you

00:24:59at the time

00:25:00that you know

00:25:00there was a lot

00:25:01of other people

00:25:01in the same game

00:25:02but very few

00:25:04gore movies

00:25:06at least those

00:25:07first couple years

00:25:0863, 64, 65

00:25:10there was no competition

00:25:12the only thing

00:25:12I can think of

00:25:13is Undertaker

00:25:14and his pals

00:25:14came out

00:25:15that was

00:25:15Blood Feast

00:25:17established the genre

00:25:18this picture was made

00:25:20before Undertaker

00:25:21was before

00:25:22Texas Chains

00:25:23so we had

00:25:24two pictures

00:25:25under our belt

00:25:26before our

00:25:27competitors

00:25:28our imitators

00:25:29ever discovered gore

00:25:31we had both

00:25:32of these pictures

00:25:33out and in release

00:25:34but the motion picture

00:25:35industry was

00:25:36and is a very

00:25:37small fraternity

00:25:38and you can't

00:25:39have a hit

00:25:40and keep it secret

00:25:41and you can't

00:25:41have a flop

00:25:42and keep it secret

00:25:44once we had

00:25:45released

00:25:46or I should

00:25:47might say

00:25:47excreted

00:25:48Blood Feast

00:25:49the word

00:25:50hit the industry

00:25:51like literally

00:25:52like a cannonball

00:25:53don't forget

00:25:54that picture

00:25:54was reviewed

00:25:55in Variety

00:25:56okay the reviews

00:25:57were devastating

00:25:58but the grosses

00:25:59weren't

00:26:00the numbers

00:26:00started coming in

00:26:01people are starting

00:26:02to say

00:26:03what is this thing

00:26:04and I'm suddenly

00:26:05getting calls

00:26:06from exhibitors

00:26:07I never heard of

00:26:08that who's your

00:26:09distributor in Montana

00:26:11who's your distributor

00:26:12in this place

00:26:16the people we were

00:26:17pleading with

00:26:18to handle our pictures

00:26:18before were suddenly

00:26:19all over us

00:26:20that's another indication

00:26:21by the way

00:26:22you got a successful

00:26:22picture

00:26:23now when the movie

00:26:24when you got it

00:26:24in the can

00:26:25and you got it

00:26:25out in distribution

00:26:26you never took

00:26:27Blood Feast

00:26:27and doubled it up

00:26:28with 2008

00:26:29we didn't

00:26:30no

00:26:30as I said

00:26:32before

00:26:33that was after

00:26:35both Herschel

00:26:35and I had gotten

00:26:36out of the

00:26:38game with

00:26:39the pictures

00:26:40that we had

00:26:41done together

00:26:41and a

00:26:42distributor

00:26:43who had

00:26:44bought all

00:26:45of the rights

00:26:46to the pictures

00:26:47came up with

00:26:47the idea

00:26:48of putting

00:26:49the three of them

00:26:49together

00:26:50which was

00:26:50a waste

00:26:51a total waste

00:26:53now here's

00:26:54where we shock

00:26:55the audience

00:26:55out of their

00:26:56chairs

00:26:56because

00:26:57we have

00:26:58come this

00:26:58far

00:26:59into the

00:26:59movie

00:26:59and nothing

00:27:01has happened

00:27:01there

00:27:02here we go

00:27:05and he's

00:27:05cut off her

00:27:06thumb

00:27:08well here he's

00:27:09just nicked her

00:27:10now he's going

00:27:12to cut it off

00:27:13and she's saying

00:27:14here I'll fix it

00:27:15I'll fix it

00:27:18you moron

00:27:19you hillbilly

00:27:20now this

00:27:21still stands

00:27:22out to me

00:27:22and they're

00:27:23the most gruesome

00:27:25so that effect

00:27:27right there

00:27:28scared the hell

00:27:28out of me

00:27:29that was the

00:27:29one that I

00:27:30thought this movie

00:27:31that was the

00:27:31first shock

00:27:32scene in the

00:27:32picture

00:27:33now of course

00:27:34they bring her

00:27:35to the mayor's

00:27:36office

00:27:36and he says

00:27:38I'm going to

00:27:38take care of

00:27:39this don't you

00:27:40worry

00:27:40oh no don't

00:27:42you worry

00:27:42must be here

00:27:43I'll bandage

00:27:44this up

00:27:47so now comes

00:27:48the second

00:27:49shock scene

00:27:50that she's

00:27:51gone the

00:27:52finger so we

00:27:53may as well

00:27:53which was also

00:27:54very genius

00:27:55because most

00:27:55people would have

00:27:56done the first

00:27:57shock scene

00:27:57and then you

00:27:58would have had

00:27:59another ten

00:27:59minutes before

00:28:00you chose

00:28:00something else

00:28:01but to follow

00:28:02it was a direct

00:28:04follow through

00:28:05and this is

00:28:06where we say

00:28:08to people

00:28:08hey you've

00:28:09got a gore

00:28:09movie on your

00:28:10hands here

00:28:11but even here

00:28:11notice the camera

00:28:12angles that we

00:28:13use

00:28:14to implement

00:28:15this effect

00:28:16this is something

00:28:17that we would

00:28:18not have had

00:28:18the time

00:28:19nor the

00:28:20facilities to

00:28:21do in

00:28:22blood feast

00:28:24the close-up

00:28:25of the axe

00:28:26as the hand

00:28:26grabs it

00:28:27it's little

00:28:27stuff like

00:28:28that

00:28:29the blood

00:28:30on her

00:28:31pants

00:28:32that

00:28:32makes this

00:28:34seem so

00:28:34effective

00:28:35now see

00:28:35that

00:28:36and there

00:28:38and

00:28:38obviously

00:28:40yes

00:28:40I grant

00:28:41you

00:28:41that

00:28:41that arm

00:28:42came off

00:28:42a department

00:28:43store

00:28:43mannequin

00:28:44and

00:28:45even

00:28:45even today

00:28:46this movie

00:28:46looks out

00:28:47of control

00:28:47at this

00:28:48moment

00:28:48right here

00:28:49her arm

00:28:51is down

00:28:51a hole

00:28:51in the

00:28:52disc

00:28:52yeah

00:28:53now

00:28:53today

00:28:54of course

00:28:54if we were

00:28:55to shoot

00:28:55this

00:28:55we would

00:28:55have a

00:28:55rubberized

00:28:56arm

00:28:56and

00:28:57it would

00:28:58still be

00:28:58twitching

00:28:59yeah

00:28:59but we

00:29:00were dealing

00:29:01without

00:29:01any

00:29:03special effects

00:29:04things at

00:29:04all

00:29:04but you

00:29:05had something

00:29:06going for

00:29:06you

00:29:06nobody

00:29:07else had

00:29:07done this

00:29:08nobody

00:29:08else had

00:29:09so they

00:29:09didn't have a

00:29:09reference point

00:29:10I wanted to say

00:29:10then

00:29:11hey

00:29:11that's a

00:29:12department store

00:29:12mannequin

00:29:13now

00:29:13today

00:29:14with all

00:29:14the effects

00:29:14you have

00:29:15in movies

00:29:16like Alien

00:29:17and some

00:29:17of the

00:29:19other pictures

00:29:19that are

00:29:20effects heavy

00:29:21our stuff

00:29:22no question

00:29:23about it

00:29:23is primitive

00:29:24but at

00:29:26its time

00:29:27it had an

00:29:27effect

00:29:28and even

00:29:28today

00:29:29because

00:29:29it's primitive

00:29:31there's a

00:29:32realism there

00:29:32that you

00:29:33don't get

00:29:33with a heavy

00:29:35morphing effect

00:29:36or some of the

00:29:37other things

00:29:38you can get

00:29:38in contemporary

00:29:39pictures

00:29:40here's your

00:29:40great mirror

00:29:41shot

00:29:42these are tough

00:29:43by the way

00:29:43because

00:29:44what the camera

00:29:46shows as a

00:29:47mirror shot

00:29:48is not what

00:29:48the person

00:29:49looking in the

00:29:49mirror

00:29:50sees as a

00:29:51mirror shot

00:29:55Bill at his

00:29:56best

00:29:58with two lights

00:29:59he's lighted

00:30:00pretty well

00:30:01there

00:30:01Herschel

00:30:01and she

00:30:03there you've

00:30:04even got a

00:30:04key light

00:30:05on her hair

00:30:06yes indeed

00:30:06was there

00:30:07more censorship

00:30:08now because

00:30:08of Blood Feast

00:30:09when this

00:30:09came out

00:30:10yeah but see

00:30:12this didn't

00:30:13have the kind

00:30:13of thing

00:30:14that the

00:30:14tongue scene

00:30:14in Blood Feast

00:30:15had Jim

00:30:16so we didn't

00:30:16have

00:30:17we yeah

00:30:17we had some

00:30:18problems with

00:30:19this but not

00:30:20in the south

00:30:21which was our

00:30:22prime playing

00:30:23area anyway

00:30:24and if some

00:30:25individual town

00:30:26or some

00:30:27individual theater

00:30:28said hey I

00:30:29don't want to

00:30:29play your

00:30:30picture

00:30:32reminds me of

00:30:33the Woodrow

00:30:34Wilson story

00:30:35when a union

00:30:36boss said to

00:30:36him

00:30:37sir I would

00:30:38never vote

00:30:38for you

00:30:39and he

00:30:39replied

00:30:40sir I would

00:30:41be highly

00:30:41insulted if

00:30:42you did

00:30:42all we

00:30:44figured out

00:30:44they're not

00:30:45going to play

00:30:45it let them

00:30:46lose the

00:30:46money

00:30:46but by this

00:30:47time you see

00:30:48our reputation

00:30:49was such

00:30:50that theaters

00:30:51that had played

00:30:51Blood Feast

00:30:53automatically

00:30:53would play

00:30:542000 Maniacs

00:30:55and they

00:30:57would play it

00:30:58perhaps not

00:30:59to the grosses

00:31:00that Blood

00:31:00Feast achieved

00:31:01but certainly

00:31:02to a lot less

00:31:03griping than

00:31:03Blood Feast

00:31:04would have

00:31:04among the

00:31:04Blue Noses

00:31:07which was the

00:31:07movie that

00:31:08had the ad

00:31:08campaign

00:31:10I know it was

00:31:11in the press

00:31:11book

00:31:12the film that

00:31:13your cashier

00:31:13will never forget

00:31:14or something

00:31:14like that

00:31:16I think it was

00:31:17Scum of the Earth

00:31:17I'm sorry I didn't

00:31:18hear you

00:31:18I think it was

00:31:19Scum of the Earth

00:31:20there was an ad

00:31:21campaign in the

00:31:22press book

00:31:22in Scum of the Earth

00:31:23that said

00:31:23the film that

00:31:25your cashier

00:31:26will never forget

00:31:26oh that was

00:31:29well

00:31:30Scum of the Earth

00:31:31yeah that was

00:31:33that brochure

00:31:34we made up

00:31:35for all three

00:31:36pictures

00:31:37Scum of the Earth

00:31:38Blood Feast

00:31:39of 2000 Maniacs

00:31:41that we made up

00:31:42to send to all

00:31:43the exhibitors

00:31:44and each one

00:31:45of them

00:31:45it started

00:31:47with Barnum

00:31:47yeah I remember

00:31:49that one

00:31:49it's called

00:31:50Showmanship

00:31:51and on each

00:31:52one of them

00:31:52I had a little

00:31:53line

00:31:54the film

00:31:55your cashier

00:31:56will never forget

00:31:57I think that was

00:31:58Blood Feast

00:31:58nobody ever beat

00:31:59Dave Friedman

00:31:59in exploitation

00:32:01yesterday I was

00:32:02talking to somebody

00:32:03who said that

00:32:04she was on eBay

00:32:07and they were

00:32:08auctioning off

00:32:09the paperback book

00:32:10of Blood Feast

00:32:12which we couldn't

00:32:13give away

00:32:13we would show up

00:32:14at theater

00:32:15on this convention

00:32:15and say take one

00:32:16nah

00:32:16and at the end of the day

00:32:17it was all over the floor

00:32:18the bidding was at

00:32:20$150 for this

00:32:21little paperback book

00:32:22that we couldn't

00:32:23give away

00:32:23and I wish he had

00:32:25a case of them

00:32:25out back there

00:32:26you remember the fellow

00:32:27we meet at Chiller

00:32:28every year

00:32:29oh yeah

00:32:31Kleinschmidt

00:32:31or whatever

00:32:31and he says that

00:32:32he has two or three

00:32:34of these things

00:32:35and he sells them

00:32:36for four and five

00:32:37hundred dollars

00:32:38they came out

00:32:39with a book

00:32:39they came out

00:32:40with a reissue

00:32:41you wrote the book

00:32:41right Herschel

00:32:42yes

00:32:43oh there's been

00:32:44they came out

00:32:45with a reissue

00:32:45comic books

00:32:46comic books

00:32:47everything

00:32:48I think the only

00:32:49thing we missed

00:32:50this was the only

00:32:50the only

00:32:52telephone booth

00:32:53in St. Cloud

00:32:57and it bothered me

00:32:58here because

00:32:58we never got

00:32:59our money back

00:33:02I think we were

00:33:03putting slugs

00:33:03in it anyway

00:33:06so what was

00:33:07the print count

00:33:08was it pretty close

00:33:09to Blood Feast

00:33:10like 75 prints

00:33:11100 prints

00:33:13once again

00:33:14we started off

00:33:15very cautiously

00:33:16with this picture

00:33:17we were still

00:33:19remembering our

00:33:20poor past

00:33:22and when you're

00:33:23once stricken

00:33:24with poverty

00:33:25you're cautious

00:33:25forever after

00:33:26now the one

00:33:28place this picture

00:33:29played

00:33:30to equal grosses

00:33:32with Blood Feast

00:33:33was the west coast

00:33:34and again

00:33:36there I attribute

00:33:37that to the fact

00:33:38that it

00:33:38because of the

00:33:39better production

00:33:40value and everything

00:33:43that it got

00:33:44into a lot

00:33:45more situations

00:33:46than Blood Feast

00:33:47ever got into

00:33:49and some

00:33:50much better

00:33:50situations

00:33:51yeah and I think

00:33:52what this did

00:33:54that Blood Feast

00:33:55might not have done

00:33:56this opened the door

00:33:58to this kind

00:33:59of picture

00:34:00Blood Feast

00:34:01scared a lot

00:34:02of possible

00:34:02competitors off

00:34:03for a couple

00:34:04of years

00:34:05they were afraid

00:34:06of being tarred

00:34:07with the brush

00:34:08of my god

00:34:09look what we're

00:34:09doing here

00:34:09well that explains

00:34:10why there wasn't

00:34:11a huge flood

00:34:12of this material

00:34:13like Barry Mahon

00:34:14running out

00:34:15and making a

00:34:15gore movie

00:34:17or Doris

00:34:17you see we were

00:34:18at that moment

00:34:19they couldn't tell

00:34:20what we were

00:34:21we were outlaws

00:34:21in a sense

00:34:22and yet we were

00:34:23making so much

00:34:23money out of

00:34:24these pictures

00:34:24no one could

00:34:25understand it

00:34:26with this picture

00:34:27we legitimized

00:34:30the genre

00:34:31of movies

00:34:31and that may

00:34:32have been the

00:34:33reason that

00:34:33subsequent to

00:34:362000 Maniacs

00:34:37the flood began

00:34:38but none

00:34:40of our

00:34:40competitors

00:34:41or contemporaries

00:34:43in the

00:34:44nudie cutie

00:34:45business

00:34:45or the nudist

00:34:46colony business

00:34:47ever dared

00:34:48attempt

00:34:48a blood film

00:34:51or a gore film

00:34:52probably the first

00:34:53guy to come

00:34:54out with something

00:34:55in any way

00:34:57imminent

00:34:57would be

00:34:58Ted Michaels

00:34:59with The Undertaker

00:35:01and his pal

00:35:02and he was

00:35:03even before

00:35:04Friday

00:35:04that Sean

00:35:05Cunningham

00:35:06or

00:35:07you know

00:35:08the only other

00:35:09movie I can

00:35:09think of

00:35:10that and it's

00:35:10so obscure

00:35:11that barely

00:35:12anybody saw it

00:35:13and the movie

00:35:14is technically

00:35:14still lost

00:35:15is the one

00:35:15I was telling

00:35:16you about

00:35:16Love Goddess

00:35:17of Blood

00:35:17Island

00:35:17shot in

00:35:18Florida

00:35:19that was

00:35:19shot in

00:35:20Florida

00:35:20and I'm

00:35:21very gory

00:35:22you know

00:35:22a bill

00:35:23here we went

00:35:24out into

00:35:25the field

00:35:25and they

00:35:26were gracious

00:35:28enough

00:35:28the electric

00:35:29company

00:35:29strung a line

00:35:30for us

00:35:31because there

00:35:32was no power

00:35:32where we were

00:35:33at all

00:35:33they strung

00:35:34an electric

00:35:34power line

00:35:35out for us

00:35:35that afternoon

00:35:36they ran

00:35:37a whole bunch

00:35:38of cars

00:35:38around this

00:35:39field

00:35:39to scare

00:35:39off any

00:35:40snakes

00:35:41that might

00:35:41be in there

00:35:42they had

00:35:42those horses

00:35:43I fell off

00:35:44the horse

00:35:44that night

00:35:45the guy

00:35:46brought

00:35:46oh don't

00:35:47you want

00:35:47to get

00:35:47on the horse

00:35:48Mr. Freeman

00:35:48well

00:35:50okay

00:35:50I was not

00:35:51one of the

00:35:51great horsemen

00:35:52of our time

00:35:54oh the thing

00:35:56bucked

00:35:57and I

00:35:58hit the ground

00:35:59thank God

00:35:59out of the sand

00:36:02the horse

00:36:02didn't feel

00:36:03too good

00:36:03about it

00:36:04either

00:36:05now you know

00:36:05another strange

00:36:06combination

00:36:06is the

00:36:08exploitation

00:36:09film

00:36:10it's a gore

00:36:10movie

00:36:11but it's also

00:36:12a musical

00:36:12oh yes

00:36:13which is

00:36:14a definite

00:36:15first

00:36:16and I don't

00:36:17think it's

00:36:17something people

00:36:18followed up

00:36:18with

00:36:19you know

00:36:19the funny

00:36:20thing about

00:36:20it

00:36:22you know

00:36:22it's a very

00:36:23catchy tune

00:36:24believe it or

00:36:24not

00:36:25I mean

00:36:25the melody

00:36:26was good

00:36:27I want to

00:36:28pat you

00:36:28on the back

00:36:29for that

00:36:29it's about

00:36:30time

00:36:30first of all

00:36:31you would have

00:36:31been

00:36:32you would have

00:36:32been

00:36:33proud

00:36:33some of these

00:36:33of course

00:36:33are

00:36:34I take credit

00:36:35for the theme

00:36:35music in some

00:36:36of those

00:36:36but the

00:36:37much of them

00:36:37are old folk

00:36:38songs

00:36:39old Joe Clark

00:36:40old Joe Clark

00:36:41and Darlin Corey

00:36:42these all

00:36:43pre-existed us

00:36:44by a hundred

00:36:45years

00:36:45now here's the

00:36:46barbecue

00:36:47with the arm

00:36:48on the spit

00:36:49and by the time

00:36:50the evening was over

00:36:51there was absolutely

00:36:52nothing left

00:36:53to it at all

00:36:57but this is

00:36:58where we

00:36:58once again

00:36:59we used

00:37:00every bit

00:37:01of lighting

00:37:01we could

00:37:02we had

00:37:03so things

00:37:04like this

00:37:05where you see

00:37:05the flags waving

00:37:06in the air

00:37:07cover a multitude

00:37:08of sins

00:37:10that occur

00:37:11because we

00:37:12were not

00:37:13that well

00:37:14equipped

00:37:15from the

00:37:16viewpoint

00:37:16this is where

00:37:16we get rid

00:37:17of Jerry Eden

00:37:18not horribly

00:37:20enough

00:37:20I might add

00:37:24the interplay

00:37:25of the characters

00:37:26here

00:37:27is something

00:37:28that we

00:37:28had not

00:37:29achieved

00:37:29in Blood Feast

00:37:31part of it

00:37:32of course

00:37:32was the scripting

00:37:33of Blood Feast

00:37:34which just

00:37:35didn't require

00:37:35that at all

00:37:36but here

00:37:37we wanted

00:37:38that mounting

00:37:39effect of horror

00:37:40I like this shot

00:37:41by the way

00:37:41people do react

00:37:43to that shot

00:37:48you know

00:37:48one of my

00:37:49favorite scenes

00:37:49in the movie

00:37:50is

00:37:50when the

00:37:51town folk

00:37:52after they've

00:37:53done a murder

00:37:55there's a

00:37:55stricken effect

00:37:56they're very

00:37:57dumbfounded

00:37:58kind of like

00:37:59it's very

00:37:59what have we done

00:38:01yeah

00:38:01and then

00:38:02they start

00:38:03playing Dixie

00:38:04and it catches

00:38:05fire again

00:38:06yes

00:38:07that was quite

00:38:07deliberate

00:38:08and we weren't

00:38:09sure when we

00:38:09shot it

00:38:10whether it was

00:38:10going to work

00:38:11because they're

00:38:11all extras

00:38:12none of them

00:38:12was an actor

00:38:13none of the

00:38:14town folk

00:38:14but they got

00:38:15caught up

00:38:16in the spirit

00:38:17of this movie

00:38:17as well as

00:38:18this was all

00:38:19night for

00:38:20night

00:38:20oh yeah

00:38:21look at the

00:38:21way

00:38:21those two

00:38:22characters

00:38:23and it was

00:38:24pitch black

00:38:25out there

00:38:25and as I say

00:38:27we didn't have

00:38:27a couple of

00:38:28hundred

00:38:305kw's

00:38:31and a couple

00:38:31of arcs

00:38:32and a few

00:38:33other lights

00:38:33like that

00:38:34but

00:38:35it was just

00:38:36as well

00:38:36to have

00:38:36this

00:38:37blackness

00:38:38behind

00:38:38them

00:38:42excuse me

00:38:43ma'am

00:38:43I got

00:38:44some

00:38:44business

00:38:45to

00:38:45do

00:38:45you

00:38:45little

00:38:46knucklehead

00:38:46come back

00:38:48and I'll roll

00:38:49in my sweet

00:38:50baby's arm

00:39:05I ain't gonna work

00:39:07on the railroad

00:39:08I ain't gonna work

00:39:10on the farm

00:39:11I'll lay round

00:39:13the shack

00:39:13till the mail train

00:39:14come back

00:39:15and I'll roll

00:39:16in my sweet

00:39:16baby's arm

00:39:18roll in my sweet

00:39:20roll in my sweet

00:39:23baby's arm

00:39:24well I'll lay

00:39:26round the shack

00:39:27later on

00:39:28in this same

00:39:28series of scenes

00:39:32was when we

00:39:33were shooting

00:39:34the

00:39:36toward the end

00:39:36of this picture

00:39:37in the policeman's

00:39:39office

00:39:39and she did not

00:39:40know how to stand

00:39:41and I said

00:39:41that's not possible

00:39:42she's a model

00:39:44she should know

00:39:44how to stand

00:39:45and as we get

00:39:46to the tail end

00:39:47of this

00:39:47by the way

00:39:48this

00:39:49plaque

00:39:50plaque

00:39:50I kept that

00:39:51for years

00:39:51that was something

00:39:52we had made

00:39:53they do this

00:39:54wax

00:39:55and it's done

00:39:56to pour

00:39:58liquid metal

00:39:59into

00:39:59when you want

00:40:00to make a bronze

00:40:02plaque of some sort

00:40:04and it does

00:40:06it does have

00:40:07the effect

00:40:08we're asking

00:40:08let me

00:40:09let's just pursue

00:40:10the Connie Mason

00:40:11thing

00:40:12again

00:40:15you were much

00:40:16more annoyed

00:40:17with her

00:40:17on Blood Feast

00:40:19and you did

00:40:21fight me

00:40:22about using

00:40:22her in this

00:40:24picture

00:40:24but by then

00:40:25she had come

00:40:26out in Playboy

00:40:27and was the

00:40:28playmate of the year

00:40:29and was exploitable

00:40:30that's the best

00:40:32word for it

00:40:32so if you and I

00:40:35ever had any

00:40:36argument

00:40:36it was about

00:40:37Connie

00:40:39but you gave

00:40:40in

00:40:41and on this

00:40:41one you got

00:40:42along with her

00:40:42a lot better

00:40:43than you did

00:40:43with her

00:40:44on Blood Feast

00:40:44I think so

00:40:45yeah

00:40:45in the garage

00:40:46toward the end

00:40:47we had to take

00:40:47some lines

00:40:48away from her

00:40:48and give them

00:40:49to the other

00:40:51guy in the car

00:40:51because we wanted

00:40:53to get out

00:40:53of that location

00:40:55but she also

00:40:57was much less

00:40:58the prima donna

00:40:59in this movie

00:41:00than she was

00:41:00in Blood Feast

00:41:02well she was

00:41:02enjoying it

00:41:03believe it or not

00:41:03I mean

00:41:04well everybody

00:41:04had a good time

00:41:05in this movie

00:41:06and you know

00:41:08normally

00:41:08Connie worked

00:41:09for Oleg Cassini

00:41:10and she hung

00:41:11around in some

00:41:12very fast moving

00:41:13crowds around

00:41:14New York

00:41:15and to come

00:41:16down to this

00:41:16little town

00:41:17in the middle

00:41:19of Florida

00:41:19wasn't Miami

00:41:21it wasn't

00:41:21Lauderdale

00:41:22or anything

00:41:22like that

00:41:23I mean

00:41:23this was

00:41:24out in the woods

00:41:25it was lonely

00:41:26country

00:41:26why that was

00:41:27a pretty good

00:41:28little trooper

00:41:28oh no

00:41:29I had no

00:41:30quarrel with that

00:41:31nor with the way

00:41:32the picture

00:41:32finally turned out

00:41:35you know

00:41:35I was just

00:41:36thinking

00:41:36the exploitation

00:41:37aspect of

00:41:38her being a

00:41:39playmate

00:41:40and you were

00:41:40able to use

00:41:41that in your

00:41:42ad copy

00:41:43you know

00:41:44playmate of

00:41:45the year

00:41:45I wonder

00:41:45how playboy

00:41:46felt about

00:41:47being associated

00:41:48with blood feast

00:41:50let me tell you

00:41:51something about

00:41:51that

00:41:53Connie was one

00:41:54of the first

00:41:55of the playmates

00:41:56that ever really

00:41:57got a movie

00:41:57contract

00:41:58and

00:42:00Mr. Hefner

00:42:01was

00:42:01he kept

00:42:02mentioning

00:42:03the pictures

00:42:04that

00:42:04his playmate

00:42:06of the month

00:42:07had been in

00:42:07oh so he

00:42:08was all for it

00:42:09very few of

00:42:11those ladies

00:42:12over the years

00:42:13really went

00:42:14any place

00:42:15else

00:42:15other than

00:42:17their appearance

00:42:18on the pages

00:42:19of playboy

00:42:20I have a few

00:42:21of them

00:42:21Barbie Benton

00:42:22and a couple

00:42:23of others

00:42:24got into

00:42:25movies

00:42:25but overall

00:42:28not that many

00:42:29percentage wise

00:42:31and

00:42:32certainly not

00:42:33as non-playmates

00:42:35and this was

00:42:36she was the first

00:42:38actually

00:42:39of all of the

00:42:40playmates

00:42:41to get any

00:42:42kind of movie

00:42:43part

00:42:43where did you guys

00:42:45open this movie

00:42:46where was the

00:42:47this movie

00:42:48if I remember

00:42:49right

00:42:49we opened

00:42:51with one of

00:42:52Kohlberg's

00:42:52drive-ins

00:42:55oh yes

00:42:56that's where

00:42:56he claimed

00:42:57he had a power

00:42:58failure

00:42:58typical Stan Kohlberg

00:43:00Niles Michigan

00:43:01wasn't it

00:43:02he said they had

00:43:02a power failure

00:43:03and they were

00:43:03going to hold

00:43:04the picture

00:43:05didn't do well

00:43:05but he was

00:43:05going to hold

00:43:06it over a week

00:43:08because they

00:43:09had a power

00:43:10failure

00:43:10he had a deal

00:43:11where he would

00:43:11charge a dollar

00:43:12and a quarter

00:43:13to get into

00:43:13the theater

00:43:13of which he

00:43:15said 25 cents

00:43:16was admission

00:43:17and a dollar

00:43:17was for a

00:43:18discount

00:43:18at the

00:43:18concession stand

00:43:20and the

00:43:21procedure was

00:43:22that he would

00:43:22pay the film

00:43:23rental based

00:43:24on the 25

00:43:24cents

00:43:25instead of

00:43:26on the dollar

00:43:26and a quarter

00:43:27now here we

00:43:28have our

00:43:29and he got

00:43:29away with this

00:43:30from the major

00:43:31companies for years

00:43:31oh yeah

00:43:33of course

00:43:33we were his

00:43:34partner

00:43:34so we were

00:43:35limited in the

00:43:36amount of

00:43:36complaining we

00:43:37could do

00:43:41here are our

00:43:42horses looking

00:43:43very mild

00:43:43but again

00:43:45the concept

00:43:46of mounting

00:43:47horror

00:43:48that was the

00:43:49nature of

00:43:502000 maniacs

00:43:53what made

00:43:53mal arnold

00:43:54so interesting

00:43:55and connie

00:43:56mason is

00:43:56the fact that

00:43:57you guys took

00:43:57non-actors

00:43:58and made them

00:43:59actors

00:44:00and they took

00:44:01their parts

00:44:01seriously

00:44:02even though they

00:44:03couldn't act

00:44:04that's what makes

00:44:05it so funny

00:44:06today

00:44:07yes but you see

00:44:08at the time

00:44:09we were delighted

00:44:10these people took

00:44:11this stuff seriously

00:44:12Jim because

00:44:13that meant they

00:44:14might learn their

00:44:14lines which

00:44:15again have been

00:44:16a novelty

00:44:18in this picture

00:44:20people did know

00:44:21their lines

00:44:22it was almost

00:44:23contagious

00:44:24and you take

00:44:25people like

00:44:25the mayor

00:44:26and like

00:44:27Ben Moore

00:44:28and Gary

00:44:29Baikman

00:44:30the guy who's

00:44:30standing next to him

00:44:31on the left there

00:44:32and Linda Cochran

00:44:33all these people

00:44:34who really

00:44:35and Jerry Eden

00:44:36who took this

00:44:37picture seriously

00:44:38and they were

00:44:38into their roles

00:44:39almost in a

00:44:39Brando kind of

00:44:40fashion

00:44:41it became

00:44:42contagious

00:44:42remember one

00:44:43thing

00:44:43when they saw

00:44:44this script

00:44:45this was an

00:44:4580 page script

00:44:46oh yeah

00:44:46this was

00:44:47Blood Feast

00:44:48was maybe

00:44:4815 pages

00:44:49including the

00:44:50title page

00:44:51and two blanks

00:44:51at the end

00:44:52ah pull him

00:44:53apart

00:44:55notice that

00:44:56mad gleam

00:44:56in her eye

00:44:57and here comes

00:44:59the arm

00:44:59that's him

00:45:00all over

00:45:01talk about

00:45:02a disorganized

00:45:02personality

00:45:05now this is

00:45:05the thing

00:45:06you were talking

00:45:06about Michael

00:45:07where at the

00:45:08end of this

00:45:09effect

00:45:10which we

00:45:11pan to

00:45:12very very

00:45:13slowly

00:45:15and not a

00:45:16lot of

00:45:16light

00:45:18and then

00:45:19zoom back

00:45:21and it gets

00:45:22dragged out

00:45:22of the scene

00:45:23and now the

00:45:24people are

00:45:24nonplussed

00:45:25this really

00:45:26worked for me

00:45:27when I first

00:45:27time I saw

00:45:28this I just

00:45:29thought you

00:45:29know it

00:45:30kind of

00:45:30gave

00:45:31and as they

00:45:32sing Dixie

00:45:33on a very

00:45:34low key

00:45:35and they

00:45:36just gradually

00:45:36you can see

00:45:37it rising

00:45:38again

00:45:39like these

00:45:40two guys

00:45:41let's have

00:45:42some music

00:45:44that's just

00:45:45kind of

00:45:45interesting

00:45:46that they

00:45:46were looking

00:45:46a little

00:45:47sad there

00:45:48that was

00:45:49absolutely

00:45:50the intention

00:45:51it works

00:45:52too

00:45:52that one

00:45:53worked

00:45:53we had

00:45:54that same

00:45:54thing

00:45:55on the

00:45:55old

00:45:55teeter

00:45:56and rock

00:45:56at the

00:45:57end of

00:45:58that

00:45:58effect

00:45:59that

00:46:00particular

00:46:01scene

00:46:01is the

00:46:02one

00:46:02that

00:46:03what

00:46:03they

00:46:04had

00:46:04done

00:46:04and then

00:46:05they

00:46:05realized

00:46:06that

00:46:06that's

00:46:06what

00:46:06they

00:46:06wanted

00:46:07to

00:46:07do

00:46:07get

00:46:08even

00:46:09and here

00:46:10comes

00:46:10Dixie

00:46:10and now

00:46:11they're

00:46:11back in

00:46:12it again

00:46:12and it

00:46:14catches fire

00:46:15almost like

00:46:16one of

00:46:16these birthday

00:46:16candles

00:46:17that you

00:46:17blow out

00:46:17you think

00:46:18it's out

00:46:19and then

00:46:19suddenly

00:46:19it's

00:46:19flared up

00:46:20again

00:46:20Dave you

00:46:21did the

00:46:22sound on

00:46:22this movie

00:46:23correct

00:46:23you're the

00:46:24sound man

00:46:24you know

00:46:25during the

00:46:25barrel roll

00:46:27the sound

00:46:28sounds like

00:46:29it's in

00:46:29slow motion

00:46:30was that

00:46:31deliberate

00:46:31no it

00:46:32wasn't

00:46:32I'll answer

00:46:33that one

00:46:33for Dave

00:46:33that was

00:46:35out on

00:46:35location

00:46:35and somebody

00:46:36had rented

00:46:36us

00:46:36I think

00:46:37camera equipment

00:46:37company

00:46:38out of

00:46:38New York

00:46:38had rented

00:46:39us

00:46:39a

00:46:44converter

00:46:46and it

00:46:46was supposed

00:46:47to hold

00:46:47at 60

00:46:48cycles

00:46:48and it

00:46:49didn't

00:46:49hold

00:46:49at all

00:46:50not at

00:46:51all

00:46:51and you

00:46:52had to

00:46:52stand

00:46:52there

00:46:53with your

00:46:53hand

00:46:53on the

00:46:54knob

00:46:54solidly

00:46:55we were

00:46:56lucky to

00:46:56get any

00:46:56sound

00:46:57at all

00:46:57out of

00:46:57that

00:46:57because

00:46:58we

00:46:58were

00:46:58taking

00:46:58it

00:46:59off

00:46:59a

00:46:59car

00:46:59battery

00:46:59yeah

00:47:00we

00:47:00had

00:47:00both

00:47:01the

00:47:01camera

00:47:01that

00:47:02big

00:47:02mitchell

00:47:02and the

00:47:03sound

00:47:03were coming

00:47:04off of

00:47:04that

00:47:04thing

00:47:04and it

00:47:05pulled

00:47:05it

00:47:05down

00:47:06so that

00:47:06the

00:47:07thing

00:47:07I am

00:47:07trying to

00:47:08ride the

00:47:08gain on

00:47:09the sound

00:47:09and at

00:47:10the same

00:47:10time

00:47:11keep that

00:47:11needle

00:47:12at 60

00:47:13cycles

00:47:13with this

00:47:14big

00:47:15rheostat

00:47:15and it

00:47:16was almost

00:47:17impossible

00:47:18but that

00:47:19converter

00:47:19did not

00:47:20work at

00:47:21all

00:47:21we had

00:47:21another

00:47:22thing

00:47:22here

00:47:22where

00:47:22I don't

00:47:23think

00:47:23this

00:47:23was

00:47:23the

00:47:24song

00:47:24one

00:47:24of

00:47:24the

00:47:24others

00:47:24where

00:47:25we

00:47:25had

00:47:26a

00:47:26hum

00:47:27and

00:47:28we

00:47:28had

00:47:29the

00:47:29music

00:47:30in

00:47:31tune

00:47:32in

00:47:32the

00:47:33note

00:47:33of

00:47:34the

00:47:34hum

00:47:34so

00:47:35it

00:47:35became

00:47:35unnoticeable

00:47:36that

00:47:37was

00:47:38a

00:47:38high

00:47:39line

00:47:39that

00:47:39we

00:47:39picked

00:47:40up

00:47:40an

00:47:40AC

00:47:40hum

00:47:41from

00:47:41a

00:47:42power

00:47:42line

00:47:43yeah

00:47:43it

00:47:45was

00:47:45Champion

00:47:45the

00:47:46banjo

00:47:47player

00:47:47did

00:47:47those

00:47:48guys

00:47:48live

00:47:48in

00:47:48that

00:47:48town

00:47:49yes

00:47:50Champion

00:47:50lived

00:47:51in

00:47:52Orlando

00:47:53I

00:47:53believe

00:47:53and

00:47:54he

00:47:54was

00:47:54one

00:47:55champion

00:47:58banjo

00:47:58player

00:47:59we

00:47:59used

00:47:59him

00:47:59so

00:48:00heavily

00:48:00his

00:48:00fingers

00:48:00were

00:48:01bleeding

00:48:01how

00:48:02much

00:48:02time

00:48:02between

00:48:03blood

00:48:03feasts

00:48:03and

00:48:032000

00:48:04maniacs

00:48:05between

00:48:05you

00:48:06picking up

00:48:06the ball

00:48:06and starting

00:48:07a second

00:48:08feature

00:48:08I

00:48:08think

00:48:08we

00:48:08started

00:48:09we

00:48:10shot

00:48:122000

00:48:12maniacs

00:48:13in

00:48:13October

00:48:14or

00:48:14late

00:48:15October

00:48:18about

00:48:18four or five

00:48:19months

00:48:20after we

00:48:20had

00:48:21opened

00:48:22blood

00:48:23feast

00:48:23we

00:48:24opened

00:48:25blood

00:48:25feast

00:48:25in

00:48:26the

00:48:27spring

00:48:28at

00:48:29that

00:48:29drive

00:48:29in

00:48:30okay

00:48:30and we

00:48:30shot

00:48:30this

00:48:30in

00:48:31the

00:48:31fall

00:48:31and we

00:48:31through

00:48:32the

00:48:32whole

00:48:32summer

00:48:34I

00:48:34know

00:48:35I

00:48:36remember

00:48:36we had

00:48:37left

00:48:37for

00:48:39I

00:48:39had

00:48:39gone

00:48:40down

00:48:40to

00:48:40Charlotte

00:48:40first

00:48:41and was

00:48:41going to

00:48:42meet

00:48:42Herschel

00:48:42in

00:48:44this

00:48:44little

00:48:44town

00:48:45and I

00:48:46know

00:48:46that's

00:48:47when

00:48:48my wife

00:48:48and I

00:48:49bought

00:48:49the parrot

00:48:50Marshall

00:48:51Fields

00:48:51which

00:48:52you still

00:48:53have

00:48:5438

00:48:54years

00:48:55later

00:48:55and I

00:48:56had

00:48:57called

00:48:57home

00:48:57when I

00:48:58got

00:48:58into

00:48:58St.

00:48:59Cloud

00:48:59and she

00:49:00said

00:49:01do you

00:49:01really

00:49:01want

00:49:01it

00:49:02I

00:49:02said

00:49:02yes

00:49:02she

00:49:03says

00:49:03all right

00:49:03I'm

00:49:03going

00:49:04down

00:49:04to

00:49:04Marshall

00:49:04Fields

00:49:05tomorrow

00:49:05and pick

00:49:06it up

00:49:07you

00:49:07know

00:49:07you're

00:49:08right

00:49:08it was

00:49:09about

00:49:09October

00:49:09this

00:49:10girl

00:49:10by the

00:49:11way

00:49:12this

00:49:12girl

00:49:13was

00:49:13pregnant

00:49:14about

00:49:15two

00:49:15months

00:49:15and we

00:49:16didn't

00:49:16find that

00:49:16out

00:49:16until

00:49:17after

00:49:17we

00:49:17had

00:49:17started

00:49:18to

00:49:18shoot

00:49:19and

00:49:19that

00:49:19really

00:49:20had

00:49:20us

00:49:20terrified

00:49:20because

00:49:21this

00:49:22was

00:49:22she

00:49:22had

00:49:22some

00:49:22very

00:49:23strong

00:49:23action

00:49:24to

00:49:24do

00:49:24yeah

00:49:25but

00:49:25everything

00:49:26worked

00:49:26out

00:49:26fine

00:49:27you

00:49:28know

00:49:28as

00:49:28filmmakers

00:49:29and

00:49:29producers

00:49:29directors

00:49:30must have

00:49:31been

00:49:31incredibly

00:49:32satisfying

00:49:32I

00:49:32mean

00:49:33today's

00:49:34filmmakers

00:49:34directors

00:49:35producers

00:49:35don't

00:49:36have

00:49:36this

00:49:36opportunity

00:49:37to

00:49:37build

00:49:37to

00:49:38create

00:49:38something

00:49:38put

00:49:39it

00:49:39on

00:49:39the

00:49:39marketplace

00:49:40and

00:49:40within

00:49:41months

00:49:41start

00:49:42on

00:49:43another

00:49:43project

00:49:43and

00:49:44within

00:49:44actually

00:49:45months

00:49:45having

00:49:45it

00:49:46out

00:49:46on

00:49:46the

00:49:46marketplace

00:49:47so

00:49:48it's

00:49:49something

00:49:49that

00:49:49isn't

00:49:49done

00:49:50today

00:49:50it

00:49:51just

00:49:51doesn't

00:49:51exist

00:49:51I

00:49:53certainly

00:49:54can't

00:49:54speak

00:49:54for

00:49:55the

00:49:55quote

00:49:56auteurs

00:49:57today

00:49:57Herschel

00:49:58and I

00:49:59never

00:49:59worked

00:49:59on

00:50:00any

00:50:00auteur

00:50:01theory

00:50:01I

00:50:02don't

00:50:02think

00:50:03we

00:50:03made

00:50:04up

00:50:04too

00:50:04many

00:50:04names

00:50:06I

00:50:06don't

00:50:06think

00:50:07there

00:50:07were

00:50:07two

00:50:07guys

00:50:08that

00:50:08worked

00:50:09in

00:50:09tandem

00:50:10any

00:50:10better

00:50:11than

00:50:11we

00:50:11did

00:50:12because

00:50:13both

00:50:14of us

00:50:14could

00:50:15chip

00:50:15in

00:50:16and

00:50:17managed

00:50:18to

00:50:18have to

00:50:19sweep

00:50:19out

00:50:19the

00:50:20set

00:50:20that

00:50:20we

00:50:21borrowed

00:50:21and

00:50:21both

00:50:22were

00:50:22there

00:50:22with

00:50:22a

00:50:23push

00:50:23broom

00:50:23and

00:50:23carrying

00:50:24out

00:50:24the

00:50:24garbage

00:50:25the

00:50:25other

00:50:26day

00:50:26we

00:50:26would

00:50:26be

00:50:26the

00:50:26ones

00:50:27helping

00:50:27pick

00:50:27up

00:50:27the

00:50:27cables

00:50:28everybody

00:50:28pitched

00:50:29in

00:50:30we

00:50:30had

00:50:30determined

00:50:31early

00:50:31on

00:50:32we

00:50:32were not

00:50:32going to

00:50:32tell

00:50:32them

00:50:33to do

00:50:33something

00:50:33we

00:50:33not

00:50:33going

00:50:33to do

00:50:34but

00:50:34we

00:50:34had

00:50:35fun

00:50:35and

00:50:35basically

00:50:36this

00:50:37picture

00:50:37was

00:50:37a

00:50:37ball

00:50:38I

00:50:38think

00:50:39it was

00:50:39one

00:50:40of

00:50:40the

00:50:40greatest

00:50:40two

00:50:40weeks

00:50:41I

00:50:41ever

00:50:41spent

00:50:41doing

00:50:42this

00:50:43thing

00:50:43the

00:50:43next

00:50:44greatest

00:50:45time

00:50:45was

00:50:45shooting

00:50:45Shefreak

00:50:46of course

00:50:47but

00:50:47this

00:50:48thing

00:50:48was

00:50:48absolute

00:50:49joy

00:50:49after

00:50:50we

00:50:50threw

00:50:50that

00:50:50overboard

00:50:51we

00:50:52went

00:50:52back

00:50:52and

00:50:53picked

00:50:53it

00:50:53up

00:50:53again

00:50:53we

00:50:53wanted

00:50:54that

00:50:54bag

00:50:56this

00:50:57again

00:50:58see

00:50:58there's

00:50:59no

00:50:59gore

00:50:59as

00:51:00such

00:51:00there

00:51:00but

00:51:01the

00:51:01audience

00:51:01reacts

00:51:02to

00:51:02that

00:51:03kind

00:51:03of

00:51:03thing

00:51:06well

00:51:06this

00:51:06would

00:51:06be

00:51:07we

00:51:07were

00:51:07lucky

00:51:07with

00:51:07Skye

00:51:08scenes

00:51:08this

00:51:08picture

00:51:08were

00:51:08in

00:51:08black

00:51:09and

00:51:09white

00:51:09it

00:51:09would

00:51:09be

00:51:10film

00:51:10noir

00:51:13I

00:51:13would

00:51:13say

00:51:13that's

00:51:14a

00:51:14truism

00:51:15but

00:51:15we

00:51:15had

00:51:16no

00:51:16auteur

00:51:18overtones

00:51:18at all

00:51:18in fact

00:51:19we

00:51:19made up

00:51:20the name

00:51:21Sheldon

00:51:21Seymour

00:51:23as a

00:51:24crew

00:51:24member

00:51:24we

00:51:24came to

00:51:25the

00:51:25conclusion

00:51:25that

00:51:25everybody

00:51:26we

00:51:26knew

00:51:26who

00:51:27was

00:51:27either

00:51:27a

00:51:27distributor

00:51:27or

00:51:28a

00:51:28theater

00:51:28owner

00:51:29was

00:51:29named

00:51:29either

00:51:29Sheldon

00:51:30or

00:51:30so we

00:51:31put the

00:51:32two names

00:51:32together

00:51:32figuring

00:51:33okay

00:51:33if it's

00:51:34Sheldon

00:51:34Seymour

00:51:35everybody

00:51:35can identify

00:51:36with it

00:51:36so you'll

00:51:37see

00:51:37sometimes

00:51:38music

00:51:38by Sheldon

00:51:39Seymour

00:51:39or

00:51:40unit manager

00:51:41we never

00:51:41knew quite

00:51:42what that

00:51:42was

00:51:44here's

00:51:44the big

00:51:45barrel roll

00:51:46this scene

00:51:47worked

00:51:48to me

00:51:49this scene

00:51:50worked better

00:51:51than any

00:51:51of them

00:51:52to get

00:51:53the true

00:51:53effect

00:51:54here

00:51:54by the

00:51:54way

00:51:54we had

00:51:55to get

00:51:55in that

00:51:56barrel

00:51:56for part

00:51:58of the

00:51:58roll

00:51:58down the

00:51:58hill

00:51:59that was

00:51:59before

00:51:59the spikes

00:52:00were in

00:52:01I know

00:52:02I did

00:52:02that

00:52:02that was

00:52:03my young

00:52:04foolish

00:52:05picture

00:52:05there

00:52:05but the

00:52:09other great

00:52:09scene

00:52:10at the

00:52:10end

00:52:10of this

00:52:11was the

00:52:11close up

00:52:12of the

00:52:12nail

00:52:12with the

00:52:13blood

00:52:13dripping

00:52:13inside

00:52:14who painted

00:52:15the flags

00:52:16and the

00:52:16barrels

00:52:17who painted

00:52:18all the

00:52:18stuff

00:52:18oh we

00:52:20had bought

00:52:20up every

00:52:21confederate

00:52:22battle flag

00:52:23in the

00:52:24state of

00:52:24Florida

00:52:25I think

00:52:25that was

00:52:26glued on

00:52:26there

00:52:26I don't

00:52:28think that

00:52:29was painted

00:52:29on

00:52:29the barrel

00:52:30of course

00:52:31we did

00:52:31paint

00:52:31we had a

00:52:33tough time

00:52:33finding a

00:52:34barrel

00:52:36you see

00:52:37the effect

00:52:37here

00:52:39but we

00:52:40have far

00:52:40more reaction

00:52:41shots here

00:52:42too by the

00:52:42way than

00:52:43we ever

00:52:43had in

00:52:44a movie

00:52:46which builds

00:52:47the horror

00:52:48which builds

00:52:48the horror

00:52:51and you

00:52:51know as we

00:52:52go from

00:52:52close up

00:52:52to long

00:52:53shot

00:52:53to reaction

00:52:54shot

00:52:56you guys

00:52:57must have

00:52:57been really

00:52:58satisfied

00:52:58with your

00:52:59work

00:52:59when you

00:52:59were watching

00:53:00this in

00:53:00the sense

00:53:01of dailies

00:53:01and you

00:53:02knew you

00:53:02were on

00:53:02to something

00:53:03here

00:53:03we didn't

00:53:04see the

00:53:04dailies

00:53:05until two

00:53:05or three

00:53:06days

00:53:06afterwards

00:53:07they were

00:53:07going up

00:53:07to New

00:53:08York

00:53:08and being

00:53:09sent back

00:53:10and we'd

00:53:10have to drive

00:53:11over to

00:53:11Orlando

00:53:12to get

00:53:13them

00:53:13from the

00:53:14air express

00:53:15company

00:53:15we were

00:53:16believe me

00:53:17we were

00:53:18there on

00:53:18a wing

00:53:19and a

00:53:19prayer

00:53:20now that's

00:53:21a dummy

00:53:21in there

00:53:22obviously

00:53:22but by

00:53:23intercutting

00:53:24this

00:53:24the effect

00:53:25worked out

00:53:25all right

00:53:27and the idea

00:53:28was not so much

00:53:28as to who

00:53:29was in the

00:53:30barrel as to

00:53:30what the

00:53:31effect was

00:53:31at the end

00:53:33and down

00:53:33they go

00:53:34down the

00:53:34hill

00:53:35now there

00:53:36he's in

00:53:36it

00:53:37because that

00:53:38was the

00:53:38last two

00:53:39feet of

00:53:39that

00:53:41and here

00:53:42we have

00:53:43the results

00:53:44of the

00:53:46barrel roll

00:53:47you know

00:53:48the only

00:53:48other thing

00:53:49coming out

00:53:49at this

00:53:50time

00:53:50that this

00:53:51movie

00:53:51reminds me

00:53:52of

00:53:52is those

00:53:53Ohio State

00:53:54highway

00:53:54safety films

00:53:56that the

00:53:56Ohio State

00:53:57police made

00:53:58wheels of

00:53:59tragedy

00:53:59mechanized

00:54:00death

00:54:01signal 30

00:54:02which was

00:54:03honestly the

00:54:04only thing

00:54:05you can compare

00:54:06to your films

00:54:07that was going

00:54:08on at the

00:54:08same moment

00:54:09it's amazing

00:54:10that these

00:54:11films were made

00:54:12they're little

00:54:1320 minute

00:54:14films that show

00:54:15the most gruesome

00:54:16car accidents

00:54:17known to man

00:54:18and they're

00:54:19supposed to

00:54:19scare you

00:54:19into driving

00:54:21very safely

00:54:21and they were

00:54:22shown to all

00:54:23kinds of

00:54:24teenagers

00:54:24across America

00:54:25around the

00:54:26same time

00:54:26they were

00:54:26old enough

00:54:27to go to

00:54:27the drive-in

00:54:28to see this

00:54:28this says

00:54:29roll down

00:54:30the hill

00:54:30safely

00:54:33now there's

00:54:33Bill and

00:54:34Harry Kerwin

00:54:35that guy

00:54:35is Harry

00:54:36Bill's brother

00:54:38and we

00:54:39showed him

00:54:39how to

00:54:39adjust

00:54:39two chords

00:54:40or two

00:54:41notes

00:54:41on the

00:54:42guitar

00:54:43he made

00:54:44some films

00:54:44on his

00:54:44own

00:54:45didn't he

00:54:45yes he

00:54:45did

00:54:46he and

00:54:46a fellow

00:54:46named

00:54:47Earl Wainwright

00:54:47formed a

00:54:49film company

00:54:49down here

00:54:49in Florida

00:54:50made something

00:54:51called

00:54:52about a

00:54:53piranha

00:54:54or something

00:54:54like that

00:54:54about man

00:54:55eating fish

00:54:56it actually

00:54:57did quite

00:54:57well

00:54:57in the

00:54:58exploitation

00:54:59market

00:54:59very well

00:55:01known

00:55:0270s

00:55:02exploitation

00:55:03filled

00:55:03piranha

00:55:04I think

00:55:04he made

00:55:04flesh

00:55:04feasts

00:55:05too

00:55:06with Veronica

00:55:07Lake

00:55:08Veronica Lake

00:55:09was our

00:55:11she was living

00:55:12in a house

00:55:13that we had

00:55:13rented

00:55:13or what was

00:55:14left of

00:55:15Veronica Lake

00:55:16poor woman

00:55:17now here

00:55:18he's got

00:55:18a piece

00:55:19of styrofoam

00:55:21and we

00:55:22were tempted

00:55:22when he

00:55:23cracks

00:55:23this guy

00:55:23over the

00:55:24head

00:55:24with the

00:55:24styrofoam

00:55:25and the

00:55:25white edge

00:55:26shows

00:55:27we had

00:55:29sprayed it

00:55:30with dark

00:55:30paint

00:55:30we were

00:55:31tempted

00:55:32to reshoot

00:55:32and then

00:55:33we said

00:55:34who do we

00:55:34think we

00:55:35are

00:55:36nobody's

00:55:37going to

00:55:37walk out

00:55:37because

00:55:38no one

00:55:38really

00:55:38ever knew

00:55:39whether it

00:55:40was a piece

00:55:40of styrofoam

00:55:41even after

00:55:41it had

00:55:43cracked

00:55:43now were

00:55:44the two

00:55:44of you

00:55:44doing all

00:55:45the setups

00:55:45in the sense

00:55:46of the

00:55:46special effects

00:55:47and you know

00:55:48getting

00:55:48everything ready

00:55:49for the

00:55:49camera shot

00:55:50or did

00:55:50you have

00:55:51a crew

00:55:51or a group

00:55:52of guys

00:55:52that you

00:55:52trusted to

00:55:54lay the

00:55:54paint down

00:55:55the blood

00:55:56down right

00:55:57we had a

00:55:58respectable

00:55:58crew on

00:55:59this

00:55:59many of them

00:56:00were not

00:56:02experienced

00:56:03but that was

00:56:04just as well

00:56:04for us

00:56:05we didn't want

00:56:06somebody to

00:56:07one use a

00:56:08whole bunch

00:56:09of movie

00:56:09terminology

00:56:11or two

00:56:11said no

00:56:12don't put the

00:56:13light over there

00:56:13put the light

00:56:14over here

00:56:14we felt

00:56:15we knew what

00:56:16we were doing

00:56:17and we knew

00:56:17what we were

00:56:17after

00:56:18we wanted

00:56:20grunt work

00:56:21but the one

00:56:22aspect of

00:56:23I don't care

00:56:23who it was

00:56:24whether it was

00:56:24somebody whose

00:56:25first day was

00:56:26on the crew

00:56:26or had never

00:56:28set foot on a

00:56:28set before

00:56:29we listened to

00:56:30people

00:56:31and we avoided

00:56:33a whole bunch

00:56:34of mistakes

00:56:35by listening

00:56:36to people

00:56:36and somebody

00:56:37from left

00:56:38field would say

00:56:38why don't you

00:56:39do this

00:56:41we would never

00:56:42say who the

00:56:42hell do you

00:56:42think you are

00:56:43we didn't do

00:56:43it at Paramount

00:56:44this way

00:56:45yeah

00:56:46the fact that

00:56:47the movie

00:56:47was shot

00:56:48in 14 days

00:56:49and as many

00:56:50props that

00:56:51you created

00:56:51for the film

00:56:53implies that

00:56:54you must have

00:56:54had a pretty

00:56:55loyal group

00:56:56we were down

00:56:57there 14 days

00:56:59but I think

00:56:59actual shooting

00:57:01time was only

00:57:0210 days

00:57:03if I remember

00:57:03right

00:57:03we didn't take

00:57:04a day or so

00:57:05off

00:57:06we did take

00:57:06a day or so

00:57:07off

00:57:07we took that

00:57:07day when we

00:57:08took the whole

00:57:08crew on the

00:57:09houseboat

00:57:10we took another

00:57:10day off

00:57:10now this poor

00:57:11guy cracked his

00:57:13leg horribly

00:57:14during this run

00:57:16and he still

00:57:17went through

00:57:17with it

00:57:19where

00:57:21where

00:57:23the prima

00:57:24donnas

00:57:24would

00:57:26have said

00:57:27oh well

00:57:28oh

00:57:29stop

00:57:30stop

00:57:31stop

00:57:31not this guy

00:57:32now here again

00:57:33Connie was a good

00:57:34trooper

00:57:34because she was

00:57:36not used to

00:57:36this kind

00:57:37of

00:57:37crap

00:57:38oh crap

00:57:39around herself

00:57:41we put some hay

00:57:43in it

00:57:44it was supposed

00:57:44to be quicksand

00:57:45once again

00:57:47nobody

00:57:48ever said

00:57:49hey that's

00:57:50too thin

00:57:50to be quicksand

00:57:51the effect

00:57:52covered it all

00:57:56and he will

00:57:57slowly sink

00:57:57into the sea

00:57:59he had a lot

00:58:00of guts

00:58:00to do this

00:58:01and then

00:58:02the next shot

00:58:02we took

00:58:03of him coming up

00:58:04was the end

00:58:05of the picture

00:58:06of course

00:58:08you guys had

00:58:09some real troopers

00:58:10on this

00:58:11oh yeah

00:58:11and there he goes

00:58:14and that was

00:58:15him doing that

00:58:16that bubble effect

00:58:17that wasn't any

00:58:18bubble machine

00:58:19down there

00:58:20now here's where

00:58:21Connie has to

00:58:22Connie's a little

00:58:23on the gauche

00:58:24side here

00:58:25for effects

00:58:26like this

00:58:27but again

00:58:28it made no difference

00:58:29the idea was

00:58:30to show them

00:58:31cleaning themselves

00:58:31off somewhat

00:58:33and of course

00:58:34she did

00:58:34show a little more

00:58:34leg though

00:58:35yeah she did

00:58:35have good legs

00:58:36show a little

00:58:37more leg

00:58:38that's a girl

00:58:39you know

00:58:40this movie

00:58:40has a lot

00:58:41less titillation

00:58:42in it

00:58:42than Blood Feast

00:58:43Blood Feast

00:58:44you know

00:58:44you had

00:58:45the bubble bass

00:58:47the girl

00:58:48nude with the

00:58:49bubbles around

00:58:49there

00:58:50Blood Feast

00:58:51to some degree

00:58:52would appeal

00:58:53to B&D

00:58:56aficionados

00:58:57and S&M

00:58:59aficionados

00:59:00it was a little

00:59:02more racier

00:59:02it felt

00:59:04more like

00:59:05you guys

00:59:05came out

00:59:06of the nudie

00:59:06racket

00:59:07that wasn't

00:59:08the intention

00:59:09at all

00:59:09Michael

00:59:09it disturbs

00:59:10me a little

00:59:10to hear you

00:59:11say that

00:59:11because

00:59:12the idea

00:59:13was

00:59:13yes

00:59:13the girl

00:59:14was in

00:59:14the bathtub

00:59:15but obviously

00:59:16if you're

00:59:16going to

00:59:17saw off

00:59:17somebody's

00:59:17leg

00:59:18and not

00:59:18get it

00:59:18all over

00:59:18the rug

00:59:19the bathtub

00:59:20is a place

00:59:20to do it

00:59:21you know

00:59:21the scene

00:59:22where the

00:59:22girl is

00:59:23on the slab

00:59:25on the slab

00:59:26and her shirt

00:59:27is open

00:59:27very to the side

00:59:28you know

00:59:29what I'm

00:59:30thinking

00:59:30is though

00:59:31in 1963

00:59:32for a general

00:59:32release picture

00:59:33that's a very

00:59:34okay

00:59:34no question

00:59:35you might say

00:59:36a genital release

00:59:37picture

00:59:37this was

00:59:38this picture

00:59:39was not intended

00:59:40for general

00:59:41release anyway

00:59:42bullet blood feast

00:59:43this one was

00:59:44and that may have

00:59:44been subliminally

00:59:45in our minds

00:59:46anyway

00:59:46now here comes

00:59:48our great effect

00:59:48in this movie

00:59:49old teeter and rock

00:59:51by now

00:59:52after blood feast

00:59:54blood feast

00:59:54was playing theaters

00:59:55that we never

00:59:57dreamed would play

00:59:58it

00:59:58and blood feast

00:59:59became a

01:00:00classic

01:00:01a drive-in

01:00:02classic

01:00:03to this day

01:00:04every

01:00:04and

01:00:05there were

01:00:06two pictures

01:00:07that every

01:00:08drive-in in the

01:00:08south constantly

01:00:09played

01:00:10one was

01:00:10thunder road

01:00:11played it

01:00:12every year

01:00:12and blood feast

01:00:13was the other

01:00:14and until

01:00:151985

01:00:17the drive-ins

01:00:18that were left

01:00:19throughout the

01:00:20country

01:00:21still played

01:00:22blood feast

01:00:22once a year

01:00:25in 1972

01:00:26I finally saw

01:00:27the blood

01:00:28trilogy

01:00:28at a

01:00:29$1.99

01:00:31a car load

01:00:31the old

01:00:33rancho drive-in

01:00:34in south

01:00:34Seattle

01:00:35but $1.99

01:00:36a car load

01:00:37so we all

01:00:38piled in there

01:00:39and I was

01:00:39definitely not

01:00:40disappointed

01:00:41that's the ultimate

01:00:42compliment

01:00:43we did a lot of

01:00:44construction on this

01:00:45that tower

01:00:45was about

01:00:4614 feet high

01:00:47yes it was

01:00:48this was a

01:00:49big construction

01:00:50and in fact

01:00:51when we got up

01:00:52on our cherry picker

01:00:53to shoot this scene

01:00:55it took us longer

01:00:56than we thought

01:00:56it was going to take us

01:00:57and the shadows

01:00:59kept creeping

01:00:59along

01:01:00toward that platform

01:01:02and the city

01:01:04chopped off

01:01:06the tops

01:01:06of a bunch of trees

01:01:07that were causing

01:01:08those shadows

01:01:09to cooperate

01:01:11with our

01:01:11filmmaking

01:01:12and it was horrible

01:01:13because those trees

01:01:14had been so perfectly

01:01:15sculptured

01:01:15and every day

01:01:17those who were

01:01:17available

01:01:18because now

01:01:18we're in weekdays

01:01:20showed up to be

01:01:21extras on this scene

01:01:22a lot of those people

01:01:23had to go to work

01:01:24too

01:01:27this gimmick

01:01:27worked really well

01:01:28for me

01:01:29because

01:01:30watching it

01:01:30the first time

01:01:31I never believed

01:01:32that you were going

01:01:33to see a rock

01:01:33fall on somebody

01:01:34you know

01:01:35it's just like

01:01:35it's still that

01:01:36surprise factor

01:01:38you know

01:01:38it's so funny

01:01:39you know

01:01:39I've just come off

01:01:40the fair circuit

01:01:41for the year

01:01:43and almost every

01:01:44date I played

01:01:45there was some

01:01:46concessionaire

01:01:47there with a bozo

01:01:48and it still works

01:01:50and the clown

01:01:52is standing up there

01:01:53yelling at the crowd

01:01:54yeah you couldn't

01:01:55hit the side

01:01:55of a barn

01:01:56and of course

01:01:57these characters

01:01:57will pay

01:01:58two dollars

01:01:59to throw

01:01:59just to see

01:02:00the guy drop

01:02:01into the pail of water

01:02:02the idea here

01:02:03of this close up

01:02:04by the way

01:02:04is to have her head

01:02:05go in and out

01:02:06of it

01:02:06which is far

01:02:07more dramatic

01:02:07than being back

01:02:09about six feet more

01:02:10where she's in frame

01:02:11the entire time

01:02:13this part of the movie

01:02:14I love

01:02:15because the town folk

01:02:16is playing it

01:02:17as straight

01:02:18as possibly

01:02:19they can

01:02:20and it's really

01:02:21convincing

01:02:21and I love

01:02:22the shot

01:02:23where they're all

01:02:26remorseful

01:02:26or it seems

01:02:27that way

01:02:28that you know

01:02:28yep we have it

01:02:29again at the end

01:02:30of this effect

01:02:31yeah

01:02:31it's the one shot

01:02:32in the film

01:02:33that really stood out

01:02:34the idea here

01:02:34when they were

01:02:34throwing softballs

01:02:35at the target

01:02:37the first guy

01:02:38who threw one

01:02:39hit a car

01:02:40on the other

01:02:41that Cadillac

01:02:42yeah

01:02:43and then we

01:02:43brand new Cadillac

01:02:45from then on

01:02:45we had

01:02:46we stationed somebody

01:02:48but

01:02:49I went right over

01:02:51knocked on the lady's door

01:02:52said I'm sorry

01:02:54we hit

01:02:55and oh

01:02:56I thought the woman

01:02:56was going to die

01:02:57this was her husband's car

01:02:59and it was only a week old

01:03:01and I said

01:03:02you take it right back

01:03:03to the dealer

01:03:04this minute

01:03:04and we'll take care of it

01:03:06and then we ran out of time

01:03:09and then she said

01:03:11it cost me $25

01:03:12and I said

01:03:13honey this is

01:03:14it's my pleasure

01:03:15I am so sorry

01:03:16now see

01:03:17these are the faces

01:03:19some of them are our people

01:03:21but some of them aren't

01:03:22some of them are the townspeople

01:03:23those are all townspeople

01:03:24well that

01:03:25that last kid there

01:03:27was that David Gilbert

01:03:28who was on our crew

01:03:29that last face

01:03:31I like she gives

01:03:32talky a little

01:03:33grammar lesson here

01:03:34yes

01:03:35he says

01:03:36it ain't fallen yet

01:03:37and she says

01:03:38it hasn't fallen yet

01:03:40excuse my God

01:03:41and that's in character

01:03:41the character we had established

01:03:43for her earlier on

01:03:44when her car first

01:03:45comes into the town

01:03:46so again

01:03:47she is in sync

01:03:48with herself

01:03:48as a person

01:03:49in this movie

01:03:51her name I believe

01:03:52was Yvonne Gilbert

01:03:53that's right

01:03:54nice little trooper

01:03:55Yvonne Gilbert

01:03:57I had forgotten about her

01:03:59any of the townspeople

01:04:00that try and stay in touch

01:04:01with you years later

01:04:02you know like

01:04:03you know funny thing

01:04:04years later

01:04:06one of the Florida papers

01:04:08came out with a whole

01:04:09color spread

01:04:10about our town there

01:04:12did I ever send you

01:04:13a copy of that

01:04:14I think it was

01:04:15the Orlando Sentinel

01:04:16and a year or so later

01:04:18after this picture

01:04:19they came that

01:04:21Hollywood comes

01:04:22to Central Florida

01:04:23and they had

01:04:25some color shots

01:04:26I don't know

01:04:27where they got

01:04:27they must have had

01:04:28a guy over there

01:04:29one day

01:04:29shooting this thing

01:04:31we didn't have

01:04:32that much color

01:04:33no we sure didn't

01:04:35I think all our

01:04:36production stills

01:04:36were black and white

01:04:37all our production

01:04:38stills were black and white

01:04:39yeah

01:04:41I've got a tear sheet

01:04:42I'll send it to you

01:04:44I was going to say

01:04:45the two of you

01:04:45you both came up

01:04:47with the ad campaign

01:04:48for this

01:04:48and the movie poster

01:04:49and something

01:04:50you jointly worked on

01:04:51this campaign

01:04:52wrote itself

01:04:54this campaign

01:04:55was fun fun fun

01:04:57it wrote itself

01:05:02a town of madmen

01:05:04crazed for carnage

01:05:05that was your phrase

01:05:06crazed for carnage

01:05:08so when you sold

01:05:09this movie overseas

01:05:10because this one

01:05:11is so southern

01:05:12I would suspect

01:05:14that it would even

01:05:15have been more popular

01:05:16just because of

01:05:17the regional aspect

01:05:19you know

01:05:19foreigners are very

01:05:24enthralled with

01:05:25the south

01:05:25they're fascinated

01:05:26too with the

01:05:28southern milieu

01:05:29overseas

01:05:30they know that

01:05:31we had a great

01:05:32war between the states

01:05:34back in the 60s

01:05:36and a lot of

01:05:37Europeans know

01:05:38that the south

01:05:39has never really

01:05:40reconciled

01:05:42itself

01:05:43so to speak

01:05:44but

01:05:45there's a man

01:05:46who can carry a scene

01:05:47you know

01:05:48you could have taken

01:05:49this whole theory

01:05:50this whole theme

01:05:52of why this little town

01:05:54had come

01:05:54you could apply it

01:05:55to almost any situation

01:05:57there's been some

01:05:58recent talk about

01:05:59possibly remaking this

01:06:01you know in the last

01:06:02few years

01:06:03or the last 10 years

01:06:04a lot of movies

01:06:05were remade

01:06:05AIP movies

01:06:06were remade

01:06:07and you know from

01:06:08motorcycle gang

01:06:09on up

01:06:10but there's been

01:06:10talk

01:06:11there's been

01:06:11treatments done

01:06:12on this

01:06:13and talk of it

01:06:14you know

01:06:14if you were making

01:06:15this picture today

01:06:17the villain would be

01:06:19a chemical company

01:06:21or a manufacturing company

01:06:23that had poisoned

01:06:24the whole town

01:06:26here's this scene

01:06:27these are the face

01:06:28these are all

01:06:29townspeople

01:06:29and they're doing

01:06:33exactly what they're

01:06:34supposed to do

01:06:35it's a very creepy

01:06:36scene

01:06:39your distribution

01:06:40for this film

01:06:41was very successful

01:06:42overseas

01:06:43you had just as much

01:06:44luck with it

01:06:44as Blood Feast

01:06:45and this one

01:06:46well overseas

01:06:47neither of these

01:06:48pictures played

01:06:49too much

01:06:50because of the

01:06:51censorship

01:06:52of violence

01:06:54but

01:06:57domestically

01:06:59I love the stories

01:07:00about like

01:07:01I'll tell you

01:07:01where this picture

01:07:02did a lot of business

01:07:03was in Canada

01:07:04oh really

01:07:05and surprisingly

01:07:07although Canada

01:07:08has prior censorship

01:07:10they weren't

01:07:12concerned

01:07:12about it

01:07:14about the violence

01:07:15here

01:07:16the violence

01:07:17here is much

01:07:17more muted

01:07:18than it was

01:07:19in Blood Feast

01:07:21wouldn't you say

01:07:22it's also generic

01:07:23to the plot line

01:07:25yes

01:07:26we're going to get

01:07:27even for the Civil War

01:07:28but

01:07:29as I say

01:07:30if we were

01:07:30if we were making

01:07:31this picture today

01:07:32the villain would be

01:07:34some chemical plant

01:07:36or manufacturing plant

01:07:37that had poisoned

01:07:38the whole town

01:07:39and everybody

01:07:41had either died

01:07:42or moved away

01:07:43and a hundred years later

01:07:44they're going to take

01:07:45revenge on this

01:07:46chemical company

01:07:47I have to ask

01:07:48see how weak that is

01:07:49compared with the Civil War

01:07:50I have to ask

01:07:52that this town

01:07:53this was the most

01:07:54exciting thing

01:07:55to happen in

01:07:55their lives

01:07:56period

01:07:57up to that moment

01:07:58it has to be

01:07:58did the movie

01:07:59ever play anywhere

01:08:00near St. Cloud

01:08:02so the whole town

01:08:03would come

01:08:04we were saturated

01:08:04in Orlando

01:08:05it played in Orlando

01:08:06in about three theaters

01:08:07day and date

01:08:08in a couple of drive-ins

01:08:10and in a downtown theater

01:08:12they must have

01:08:13all came out in force

01:08:14it played in a little town

01:08:15not far from

01:08:16called Auburndale

01:08:18Florida

01:08:18a guy named

01:08:19Carl Floyd

01:08:20owned a chain

01:08:21of theaters there

01:08:22and it played

01:08:22there for years

01:08:23this garage

01:08:24was named

01:08:25Lister's Garage

01:08:26we didn't repaint it

01:08:27that was the name

01:08:28that was on

01:08:30did you have to

01:08:31show the sign

01:08:31in order to get

01:08:32permission to shoot

01:08:33in there

01:08:33oh yeah

01:08:34we had permission

01:08:34to shoot

01:08:35anything we wanted

01:08:35to shoot in

01:08:36St. Cloud

01:08:36people were inviting

01:08:38us to dinner

01:08:39at their homes

01:08:40they were bringing

01:08:41ladies were bringing

01:08:43down cookies

01:08:43and things

01:08:44for the crew

01:08:45in the middle

01:08:46of the day

01:08:47and this is even

01:08:47after we had shot

01:08:48some of these scenes

01:08:49where they had an

01:08:50inkling of what

01:08:50we were doing

01:08:51because this picture

01:08:54didn't have the

01:08:55the raw brutality

01:08:59of Blood Feast

01:09:00more of a carnival

01:09:01yeah

01:09:02I think so

01:09:03and they could see

01:09:04also that these

01:09:05were actors

01:09:07that had an effect

01:09:08too

01:09:11this guy

01:09:12as much as anybody

01:09:12was responsible

01:09:14for the professionalism

01:09:15of that

01:09:16little bank

01:09:17in the town

01:09:18when I came down

01:09:19with my briefcase

01:09:20and opened an account

01:09:21down there

01:09:22that made an impact

01:09:23put $40,000

01:09:24in the account

01:09:26why

01:09:27these guys

01:09:28were impressed

01:09:31now here we go

01:09:32to catch up

01:09:34with them

01:09:34and so

01:09:34again the

01:09:37you really got

01:09:38to the point

01:09:38where you hated

01:09:39this kid

01:09:40he was a little

01:09:41monster

01:09:43in the picture

01:09:44I mean

01:09:44he was a sweet

01:09:45little boy

01:09:45he did what

01:09:46he was supposed

01:09:46to do

01:09:47now this was

01:09:48the scene

01:09:49in which we had

01:09:50to take some lines

01:09:51away from Connie Mason

01:09:53even after writing

01:09:54them on the dashboard

01:10:05we're trying to build

01:10:07suspense here

01:10:08because we'll

01:10:08intercut

01:10:10shots of the crowd

01:10:11rushing toward

01:10:12the garage

01:10:13this is an

01:10:14ancient

01:10:15film technique

01:10:17of what's going

01:10:18to happen

01:10:19first

01:10:20are they going

01:10:20to get there

01:10:21or are they going

01:10:21to get away

01:10:29the conversation

01:10:30here of course

01:10:31has to

01:10:33build a little

01:10:34bit

01:10:34too

01:10:35and the kid

01:10:36has gone

01:10:37now to get

01:10:38the keys

01:10:38to the car

01:10:39is he going

01:10:40to get back

01:10:40in time

01:10:43first kiss

01:10:44first kiss

01:10:45yeah that may

01:10:45be somewhat

01:10:46out of character

01:10:47but yet

01:10:48it was okay

01:10:49for what it

01:10:50won

01:10:50and here they

01:10:50come

01:10:55here are those

01:10:56mad men

01:10:56crazed for

01:10:57carnage

01:10:58right

01:11:02this car

01:11:03had been repaired

01:11:03by this time

01:11:04so we were able

01:11:05to shoot it

01:11:05from any angle

01:11:07he said

01:11:07what's that noise

01:11:08now this is a

01:11:09moment of truth

01:11:10if he takes the

01:11:11keys and goes

01:11:11out

01:11:13the game is over

01:11:16this young fella

01:11:17had never been

01:11:18in a movie

01:11:18before

01:11:20but he

01:11:20he really

01:11:21took direction

01:11:22extremely well

01:11:25now there was a

01:11:25paperback version

01:11:26of this movie

01:11:27as well

01:11:28there sure was

01:11:29and herschel

01:11:29did you write that

01:11:30yes I did

01:11:32now was the

01:11:32paperback besides

01:11:33being a sell through

01:11:35was it ever

01:11:35used as a giveaway

01:11:37or

01:11:37all of them were

01:11:38yeah the paperback for

01:11:40this was sponsored

01:11:41by a magazine

01:11:42called the insider

01:11:43which is no longer

01:11:44in business

01:11:45but it was something

01:11:46that was a cheap

01:11:46competitor with the star

01:11:48and the inquirer

01:11:49and was published in

01:11:50Chicago

01:11:51and here they go

01:11:52they made it out of

01:11:53there

01:11:55and they authorized

01:11:57the paperback version

01:11:59and I've forgotten

01:11:59quite why they did

01:12:02but we were

01:12:03the same thing here

01:12:04we were giving

01:12:05that paperback away

01:12:06to the theater owners

01:12:08it was a little

01:12:09better success

01:12:10by the way

01:12:11for this one

01:12:13now here they

01:12:13got into a truck

01:12:14this truck

01:12:15all that truck

01:12:16was a classic

01:12:16we had to push

01:12:17this truck to start

01:12:18and it would not go

01:12:19that truck

01:12:20belonged really

01:12:21in the Smithsonian's

01:12:23basement

01:12:27did you guys

01:12:27ever think about

01:12:28or even consider

01:12:29making three sheets

01:12:30or six sheets

01:12:31or you know

01:12:32big paper

01:12:33for

01:12:34I think we may have

01:12:35had a 40 by 60

01:12:36on this

01:12:36yes we did

01:12:37have a 40 by 60

01:12:38did you really

01:12:38we had a one sheet

01:12:39and a 40 by 60

01:12:40and

01:12:42we even had

01:12:4322 by 28

01:12:46here they're rushing

01:12:47out of the town

01:12:47that's rare

01:12:49and then when

01:12:50this truck

01:12:50of yahoos

01:12:51comes after them

01:12:52we get our

01:12:53gratuitous

01:12:54effect

01:12:55when the wind

01:12:56from that thing

01:12:57blows the

01:12:59sign over

01:13:00that old Spanish

01:13:01moss is always

01:13:02a great

01:13:03great front

01:13:04we had good luck

01:13:04with our

01:13:05settings there

01:13:06there they go

01:13:07that was

01:13:08that was literally

01:13:09the road

01:13:10the back road

01:13:11into that town

01:13:12by the way

01:13:13but you can see

01:13:14the production

01:13:14this was old

01:13:15Joe Clark

01:13:15was the

01:13:16old Joe Clark

01:13:17old Joe Clark

01:13:19da da da da

01:13:20da da da da

01:13:22da da da da

01:13:24da da da da

01:13:25how close to the script

01:13:26did you guys stay

01:13:27you know

01:13:28from the time

01:13:29that you started

01:13:29shooting

01:13:30until the end

01:13:30of this thing

01:13:31almost slavishly

01:13:32now there's that

01:13:33sign toppling down

01:13:34yeah

01:13:36this script

01:13:37we took

01:13:38we didn't treat it

01:13:39with reverence

01:13:40some things

01:13:41just didn't sound

01:13:42when they came off

01:13:42but generally speaking

01:13:45this was scripted

01:13:48from top to bottom

01:13:51damn Yankees

01:13:52didn't even get

01:13:53my candy

01:13:57get the hell

01:13:58out of town

01:13:59yeah

01:14:00and off they go

01:14:01and leaves the brat

01:14:03and leaves the brat

01:14:05you lousy

01:14:07you lousy Yankees

01:14:09that was again

01:14:09was a gratuitous

01:14:11if that car dealer

01:14:11had ever seen

01:14:12we almost ended

01:14:13the picture there

01:14:14if that car dealer

01:14:16had ever seen

01:14:16what we were doing

01:14:17to his car

01:14:20and here comes

01:14:21this truck

01:14:23when you talk

01:14:24about a semi

01:14:25that is a semi truck

01:14:28but it was exactly

01:14:29perfect

01:14:29great looking

01:14:30it was exactly

01:14:31what we wanted

01:14:32we were lucky

01:14:32in cropping

01:14:33this thing

01:14:34great looking machine

01:14:36now see

01:14:36some of these people

01:14:37were our cast

01:14:38and some of them

01:14:38were just townspeople

01:14:39who said

01:14:40yeah I'll go along

01:14:40with this scene

01:14:42I didn't realize

01:14:43the thing could back up

01:14:45probably better

01:14:46than going for

01:14:47how much time

01:14:48after this was released

01:14:49and in circulation

01:14:50that the third

01:14:52of the trilogy began

01:14:53you started working

01:14:54about a year

01:14:55yeah

01:14:57and that one too

01:14:58you're talking about

01:15:00color me blood red

01:15:01yeah

01:15:01notice

01:15:02notice

01:15:03her feet

01:15:04the duck feet

01:15:05there

01:15:05in this

01:15:06she does not

01:15:07know what to do

01:15:09and that

01:15:10for some reason

01:15:11and I'm not sure

01:15:12why

01:15:12it's my dereliction

01:15:13not hers

01:15:14but I

01:15:14that bothered me

01:15:16it was driving me crazy

01:15:18now that's not

01:15:19a typical model's pose

01:15:20no

01:15:21that's strange

01:15:22because normally

01:15:23every stance

01:15:24every stance

01:15:25she made

01:15:25was the cross foot

01:15:27they teach models

01:15:28basic modeling

01:15:30from the first day

01:15:31this fellow

01:15:32was also quite good

01:15:33he was a radio announcer

01:15:35in Orlando

01:15:36yeah DJ

01:15:36and his voice

01:15:39and his presentation

01:15:40were exactly

01:15:41what we wanted

01:15:42for this role

01:15:42we were lucky there

01:15:43in Orlando

01:15:45there were all kinds

01:15:45of little theater groups

01:15:46the Air Force base

01:15:48posted a notice

01:15:49I think that's how

01:15:50he got Ben Moore

01:15:51for actors

01:15:55and it worked out

01:15:57extremely well

01:16:06we were very fortunate

01:16:07in the talent pool

01:16:09that was in that town

01:16:11you know I'm a collector

01:16:13and I just

01:16:14every time I see things

01:16:15like the banners

01:16:16or the things

01:16:18that should have survived

01:16:19just who got folded up

01:16:20and put in a garage

01:16:21somewhere

01:16:23it's amazing

01:16:24you're so right

01:16:24well we didn't know

01:16:25that we were going to be

01:16:26architects of destiny

01:16:28I guess we could make

01:16:29some fake ones

01:16:30I've seen a lot

01:16:31of fake one sheets

01:16:32from our movies

01:16:33where people have

01:16:34simply copied the stuff

01:16:36or maybe stills

01:16:37well today

01:16:38oh and reproduced them

01:16:39yeah

01:16:40one sheet from Blood Feast

01:16:41sells for anywhere

01:16:42from 350 to 600 dollars

01:16:45it's stupefying

01:16:46and the most wanted item

01:16:50is the 22 by 28

01:16:52on this picture

01:16:53and I think there's only

01:16:55about four of them

01:16:56in existence today

01:16:58yeah

01:16:58it's extremely rare

01:16:59than a Tucker automobile

01:17:01and I'd like to have

01:17:02the 40 by 60 please

01:17:04that would be a nice

01:17:05little piece of paper

01:17:0640 by 60 of she-devils

01:17:09on wheels

01:17:09really?

01:17:10yeah

01:17:10that's the only thing

01:17:11that survived

01:17:11the great divorce

01:17:13of 77

01:17:14I've got one that belongs

01:17:16to Tom Renone

01:17:18now here we had

01:17:19another dissolve

01:17:20that took place

01:17:21in the camera

01:17:22where we saved ourselves

01:17:24a lot of money

01:17:24and it's no trick at all

01:17:26if you're staying

01:17:27in the same position

01:17:28which we did

01:17:29on this one

01:17:30that's where that

01:17:32marker

01:17:34disappears

01:17:34into the mists

01:17:37with our smoke machine

01:17:39which was a necessary

01:17:39element in this movie

01:17:42now you can see

01:17:42how this fellow

01:17:43is very much

01:17:43the character

01:17:44he's supposed to be

01:17:47that's the whole

01:17:49trick of reality

01:17:49in a movie like this

01:17:50if people look like

01:17:51what they're supposed

01:17:52to be

01:17:53and the rednecks

01:17:54look like what

01:17:54they're supposed to be

01:17:55and the mayor

01:17:56looks like what

01:17:57he's supposed to be

01:17:58and Bill Kerwin

01:17:59looks like a school teacher

01:18:00which is what he was

01:18:01supposed to be

01:18:01and this policeman

01:18:02looks like

01:18:03a small

01:18:04but honest

01:18:06kind of

01:18:07backwoods

01:18:08town

01:18:08policeman

01:18:09which is what

01:18:10he was supposed

01:18:11to be

01:18:13and that may be

01:18:15why this movie

01:18:15succeeds the way

01:18:16it does

01:18:17from a dramatic

01:18:18point of view

01:18:18which really

01:18:19for us

01:18:20was a

01:18:22true bonus

01:18:25because with our

01:18:27resources

01:18:28we didn't

01:18:29ourselves

01:18:30think we were

01:18:30going to have

01:18:31a picture

01:18:32of this depth

01:18:35so all the history

01:18:36of this

01:18:37that's why

01:18:37to this day

01:18:38as I told you

01:18:38Michael

01:18:39this is my

01:18:39personal

01:18:40favorite

01:18:42picture of all

01:18:42the ones we made

01:18:43and I think it is

01:18:44with collectors

01:18:45as well

01:18:46it's a movie

01:18:46that is easy

01:18:47to re-watch

01:18:48easy to sing

01:18:49along with

01:18:50at the beginning

01:18:51I appeared

01:18:52at a film festival

01:18:54in Milan, Italy

01:18:55and they showed

01:18:56this picture

01:18:57in English

01:18:59and started off

01:19:00with

01:19:00and nobody spoke

01:19:01English

01:19:02I didn't think

01:19:02because I had

01:19:03a translator

01:19:04for my comments

01:19:05they started the movie

01:19:06and half the audience

01:19:08joined into the theme song

01:19:09yes

01:19:10they all knew it

01:19:11you know Dave

01:19:12you talk about

01:19:12a heartwarming experience

01:19:14well this tour

01:19:15that we just came back

01:19:17from

01:19:18in Scandinavia

01:19:19this picture

01:19:20by far

01:19:21of all the ones

01:19:22that we showed

01:19:23was the favorite

01:19:24I did a great gimmick

01:19:26I'd go out on stage

01:19:27before the movie

01:19:28and I

01:19:29these are packed houses

01:19:31and I'd say

01:19:32okay everybody

01:19:32I want the biggest

01:19:34yeehaw

01:19:35I can get out of you

01:19:35and all of them

01:19:36go yeehaw

01:19:38and then I told them

01:19:39go ahead

01:19:40I'm sorry

01:19:41but this is our

01:19:41famous

01:19:42in-camera dissolve

01:19:43here

01:19:44coming up

01:19:44it doesn't happen

01:19:46quite yet

01:19:48but we encouraged

01:19:49sing-alongs

01:19:50at the beginning

01:19:51of 2000 Maniacs

01:19:53and we showed

01:19:53the film

01:19:54five times

01:19:55through Scandinavia

01:19:56and it was a hit

01:19:57every place we showed it

01:19:58plus we had girls

01:19:59in nurse outfits

01:20:01passing out

01:20:02stomach distress bags

01:20:03and made it as enjoyable

01:20:05an experience as possible

01:20:07that's in the true tradition

01:20:08now we couldn't make

01:20:09this dissolve

01:20:09until they got out

01:20:10of the scene

01:20:13once they're gone

01:20:15wind the camera

01:20:17down

01:20:17and then wind it back

01:20:18and we get our

01:20:20our effect

01:20:21without having to pay

01:20:22a laboratory

01:20:23and there it is

01:20:25this we even had

01:20:27the smoke machine

01:20:28that we brought down

01:20:29on this

01:20:29this was

01:20:31this film's been

01:20:32honored in

01:20:32Duville, France

01:20:33it was honored

01:20:34in England

01:20:34in Spain

01:20:35honored how

01:20:36Jim?

01:20:36in film festivals

01:20:37they've had

01:20:38film festivals

01:20:39all over the world

01:20:41I guess that's

01:20:42either an honor

01:20:43or a sign of bad taste

01:20:45no we accept that

01:20:47graciously as an honor

01:20:48we found a place

01:20:49where the highway changed

01:20:52so that was a logical

01:20:53place to call it

01:20:54the state line

01:20:56actually it was only

01:20:56about two miles

01:20:57out of town

01:20:58and obviously

01:20:58it was in the same state

01:20:59people keep saying

01:21:00to us

01:21:01what state was this

01:21:03supposed to be

01:21:04was this Georgia

01:21:06was this South Carolina

01:21:07was this Arkansas

01:21:08what state was this

01:21:10and we doggedly

01:21:12refused to answer

01:21:13what state it was

01:21:14because it really

01:21:15wasn't anything

01:21:16it was a state of mind

01:21:18really more than

01:21:19anything else

01:21:22here's another fine

01:21:23performance by Bill

01:21:25yeah

01:21:26and Connie

01:21:28but here's

01:21:29well

01:21:29yeah

01:21:30at the beginning

01:21:31this is to prove

01:21:32this was not a

01:21:33at the beginning

01:21:34of course

01:21:35there is some dialogue

01:21:36here that he is

01:21:37going to Atlanta

01:21:38for a

01:21:39teachers convention

01:21:41and of course

01:21:42in the beginning

01:21:43the tourists

01:21:44are headed

01:21:44toward Florida

01:21:46so they were

01:21:47only stopping

01:21:48the cars

01:21:50that had a

01:21:51northern license

01:21:52plate on

01:21:52so it had to be

01:21:53South Carolina

01:21:55or Georgia

01:21:55or somewhere in there

01:21:57but it really

01:21:58wasn't anything

01:21:59and the fact was

01:22:00it was shot

01:22:01in Florida

01:22:05well they're wrapping

01:22:06it up here

01:22:07wrapping it up

01:22:07as a movie

01:22:09of this sort

01:22:10should be

01:22:11wrapped up

01:22:12with a combination

01:22:13of romance

01:22:15and bathos

01:22:19well there was

01:22:20enough shock

01:22:21effect

01:22:22now this was shot

01:22:23pure sunlight

01:22:24and a couple

01:22:25of reflectors

01:22:26yeah

01:22:27that's all we had

01:22:28was sunlight

01:22:28and reflectors

01:22:30and even the reflectors

01:22:31were a step

01:22:31above blood

01:22:32of course

01:22:32this was

01:22:33a lot of this

01:22:34was daytime

01:22:36which made it

01:22:37a lot easier

01:22:37for us

01:22:42this wasn't

01:22:43a hazy day

01:22:43as you can see

01:22:44from those shadows

01:22:45on the car hood

01:22:47there

01:22:47hazy days

01:22:48are the greatest

01:22:49thing in the world

01:22:50to shoot

01:22:50oh yeah

01:22:51you don't have

01:22:51that glare

01:22:53but you can see

01:22:54how much heat

01:22:54is on their faces

01:22:55here

01:22:57one of the problems

01:22:58of shooting

01:22:58with the sun

01:22:59in your face

01:22:59is to try

01:23:00to keep your eyes

01:23:01open

01:23:01well there she

01:23:02there you're dead on

01:23:03with the sun

01:23:04in her face

01:23:05absolutely

01:23:05with him

01:23:06you've got a little

01:23:08little shadow

01:23:09now they look back

01:23:10at what's behind them

01:23:12and then off they go

01:23:13into an uncertain future

01:23:18a classic movie ending

01:23:20I think so

01:23:21and she snuggles up close

01:23:23ah

01:23:24because they've been

01:23:25through thin together

01:23:26and we go back

01:23:27to the state line

01:23:28and we go back

01:23:29to the town

01:23:30and back to the town

01:23:33where the denouement

01:23:35takes place

01:23:37hopper hopper

01:23:38come on out of there

01:23:39and here they lead

01:23:41into what might happen

01:23:42a hundred years

01:23:44we might chase them

01:23:45Yankees in a rocket ship

01:23:48so it's going to happen

01:23:49again in a hundred years

01:23:52by that time

01:23:53all these people

01:23:53will be dead and gone

01:23:54and they can startle

01:23:55another rocket ship

01:23:58load of Yankees

01:23:59or whatever

01:23:59when that happens

01:24:01but you see how perfect

01:24:03these faces are

01:24:04for the characters

01:24:06they're supposed to be

01:24:09Ben was by far

01:24:10of the

01:24:12the ruffians

01:24:13the three ruffians

01:24:15I call them

01:24:16Ben was by far

01:24:17the best of the actors

01:24:18oh there's no question

01:24:22Gary overplayed it

01:24:23quite a bit

01:24:23he played it very broadly

01:24:25you know even to this day

01:24:29you can tell

01:24:29how satisfied

01:24:30both of you are

01:24:31with this picture

01:24:32it was just

01:24:33it sounds like

01:24:34and feels like

01:24:34it was a really

01:24:35wonderful experience

01:24:37and something

01:24:38that was very gratifying

01:24:39you know

01:24:40I love this shot

01:24:41that's a great shot

01:24:42that was a nice

01:24:43little surprise shot

01:24:44when he went down

01:24:45we just waited

01:24:46until he came up again

01:24:48and

01:24:48if he didn't

01:24:50we wouldn't have this scene

01:24:51yep

01:24:53there were no alligators

01:24:55down there

01:24:55this guy was a real trooper

01:24:56wait for me

01:24:58wait for me

01:24:58he doesn't come up

01:25:00see he comes up

01:25:01almost zombie like

01:25:02and then

01:25:03is back in character again

01:25:05now the smoke

01:25:07and now the smoke machine

01:25:08and again everything

01:25:09fades into nothingness

01:25:10camera dissolved

01:25:11and then the song

01:25:13music up

01:25:14music up

01:25:15yeah

01:25:15and the

01:25:18effect becomes complete

01:25:20so the movie is

01:25:22of a piece

01:25:22well Herschel

01:25:23I've just relived

01:25:25the experience

01:25:26again with you

01:25:27and it's been

01:25:27a joy

01:25:28and for me

01:25:30this is really like

01:25:32seeing one of your

01:25:32favorite children

01:25:33who has left home

01:25:34and has come back

01:25:36again for the

01:25:37family reunion

01:25:40you and I

01:25:41get together

01:25:41too infrequently

01:25:42Dave

01:25:42yes indeed

01:25:43couldn't be a happier time

01:25:45we're this close

01:25:46to one another

01:25:46now

01:25:46and we thank you

01:25:48Mike

01:25:49for making this possible

01:25:51and Jimmy Maslin

01:25:52and Jimmy Maslin

01:25:53absolutely

01:25:54we felt that the cast

01:25:56here deserved

01:25:56individual attention

01:25:58and this is one of the

01:25:59very first pictures

01:26:00that did this

01:26:00at the end of a movie

01:26:01is that true

01:26:02because you know

01:26:03this is a device

01:26:04that became very popular

01:26:05I know it's popular

01:26:06today it's more

01:26:07commonplace than not

01:26:08because people want

01:26:09to get you into the movie

01:26:10as fast as they can

01:26:12they may announce the cast

01:26:13but not tell you

01:26:14who they are

01:26:15well today of course

01:26:16at the end of every movie

01:26:17they have got to credit

01:26:19every soul

01:26:20and his stepson

01:26:21and his great uncle

01:26:24some of the credits today

01:26:25on some of the movies

01:26:26run longer

01:26:27than the movie itself

01:26:30it also gives it

01:26:31that bigger feel

01:26:33where it's a

01:26:33you saw all the credits

01:26:35at the beginning

01:26:35of this movie

01:26:36and everyone

01:26:37was credited

01:26:38but it didn't take

01:26:402,000 people

01:26:41to make a movie

01:26:42when there's one

01:26:43I made it

01:26:46Andy Wilson

01:26:47and we call them

01:26:48the Pleasant Valley Boys

01:26:50was that a name

01:26:51you guys did?

01:26:51we made that up

01:26:52of course

01:26:54this little credit here

01:26:55gives credit to the

01:26:59town of St. Cloud

01:27:00which I fear today

01:27:02doesn't look anything

01:27:02like it did

01:27:03when we shot this movie

01:27:04it is all gone

01:27:06that is now

01:27:07the heart of Disney World

01:27:09thanks guys

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