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'The Shitheads' writer/director Macon Blair and cast members Dave Franco, O'Shea Jackson Jr., Kiernan Shipka and Nicholas Braun stop by THR's Studio in Park City to talk about the comedy. They discuss how the title of the movie pre-dates the script, share who they think will get meme'd the most once people see the film and more.

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00:00Were you getting secondhand smoke at all?
00:02Um, I realized later on in life that, uh, probably my whole life.
00:08Yeah.
00:08You know, I used to think that smell was overheated speakers because it was always real music.
00:13They're working hard.
00:15And then I smelled it on the beach and I was like, there's no music out here, you know?
00:20But yeah, I didn't see nothing too crazy, except you can't control what the crowd does.
00:24And you know, just flashing here and there.
00:27Yeah.
00:27Eight, nine years old.
00:31Do you remember when you came in last year and then you went viral for saying that Luigi Mangione,
00:38everyone asks you why you play Luigi Mangione.
00:40And now it's been a year.
00:41Next question.
00:42And no one's asked.
00:42There's nothing.
00:43Next question.
00:44Yeah, I know.
00:44I'm not touching that.
00:46No.
00:46I'm not.
00:47Because then everyone was like, ask more stuff like that to other people.
00:52And I was like, no, I'm not doing viral stuff to other people.
00:55I'm not doing that camera.
00:55I know.
00:56No, that is great.
00:58I'm not saying a word.
01:00What I do want to ask is I think this is in your video, the video that you made, like
01:04all the directors for Sundance have made like a little video kind of entering.
01:07And you teased a little story about how, I wrote it down, 2017.
01:12Peter Dinklage bought you a beer here and then cut to now this movie is made.
01:18Yeah.
01:19Can you elaborate?
01:21Because that sounds like a fantastic story.
01:22Yeah.
01:23He invited me out.
01:24He had seen my movie and he liked it.
01:26And he invited me out.
01:26So we just chatted.
01:29And then he made a crucial error and gave me his phone number.
01:32And this was when Game of Thrones is at the height of its popularity.
01:35And so every Sunday night, I might get a beer or two in me and text him about like, are
01:39you going to wind up on the Iron Throne tonight?
01:41And he's like, ha, ha, ha.
01:42And he very diplomatically put up with that.
01:45But from there, we got into talking about scripts and he invited me to work on some projects
01:50with him and I invited him.
01:53And then he was a big part of the financing package of this movie.
01:57So realistically, that beer then helped get this movie made.
02:00Wow.
02:01When you were putting the financing together, was there ever a working title or were you
02:06always like, it must be the shitheads?
02:08It was always, the title predates the script in a way.
02:11Like we had the premise, the producer and I, Alex.
02:13And we were, I was kind of figuring out the broad strokes and we were just kicking titles
02:18around and I pitched that one to him jokingly and it made him laugh.
02:22And then I got, I was like, oh, it made him laugh.
02:24And so then I got attached to it and became unable to move away from it.
02:28So it just stuck.
02:29We've been waiting for someone along the way to tell us that we can't do it.
02:33But now we're here.
02:34It's out there.
02:35You can't change it now.
02:36Did anyone ever suggest like an asterisk in any of the, no?
02:39They haven't yet.
02:40But I mean, you know, it's kind of, what's the difference?
02:43Yeah.
02:43That's true.
02:46Is it, how many jokes are people, like, are you already sick of the joke?
02:49Cause like when you guys are coming and we're like, bring the shitheads in.
02:52We love it.
02:52Is that, okay.
02:55Cause also we've realized through this process, there's different types of shitheads.
02:59It's nuanced.
03:00There's very endearing shitheads out there.
03:02We are.
03:03You're right.
03:03Bring us in.
03:04We are shitheads.
03:05There we go.
03:05You know, of different levels.
03:07There's levels to this shit.
03:09Absolutely.
03:09Shane, where do you, where do you fall on the ranking of shitheads amongst this group?
03:14What are we?
03:14Are we talking about, talking one through two?
03:16Natural instinct.
03:17Yeah.
03:17One through five.
03:18One through five.
03:18One through five.
03:19Are you the most shithead-y or the least?
03:22I'm, I'm right in the middle.
03:24Okay.
03:25Safe answer.
03:26Safe answer.
03:27Right in the middle.
03:28But who's at the top?
03:29Who's at the very top?
03:30Out of the five of us.
03:30Who's at the top?
03:31A hundred percent, Mason.
03:35A hundred percent.
03:36A hundred percent.
03:37He's doing good.
03:38He's doing good work.
03:40He's doing good work.
03:43How long have you been carrying that or waiting to, or are you whipping that out all
03:45the time?
03:46Oh yeah.
03:46Oh yes.
03:47Yeah.
03:47Cause two days before we came here, I hit the group chat, you know, me, Dave and Mason
03:54and Dave jumped the bombshell.
03:56Yeah.
03:56Yeah.
03:56Group chatter.
03:57Just three people.
03:58Yes.
03:59So many times.
04:02I, you know, Dave, let me know that Mason couldn't come.
04:05Cause he's filming how to train your dragon too.
04:07He's highly successful.
04:09We get it.
04:09And so Amazon, uh, got my money and I, I got me a, a hiccup Funko and also wore a
04:16hiccup
04:16tee on the red carpet or carpet.
04:20It wasn't red, but the carpet, uh, just to show our, our guy that we think about him.
04:25And, uh, he's included in all the press for his first Sunday.
04:28That's lovely.
04:28We love Mason Thames, but I guess objectively the biggest shithead in the group.
04:32Sure.
04:34I mean, he didn't show up.
04:36So that's pretty shithead if you ask me.
04:38Hmm.
04:39What?
04:40When you guys.
04:41I know, I know.
04:41He's so employed.
04:43He's so employed.
04:44The most employed.
04:46Cause you guys were all quite available to come to this.
04:50I'm just kidding.
04:52I obviously was too.
04:54It's a Sunday and I'm here for a Saturday.
04:57No, no, no.
05:00Who's the most out of work here?
05:02Continue.
05:02Continue.
05:03Um, when, when the email like comes in about this.
05:08Is this the kind of thing where it's like, what, what strikes your eye?
05:11Is it the title of the film?
05:13Then you're like, Oh God, I need to know more.
05:15Or like what?
05:16Yeah.
05:16Yeah.
05:17That's a good subject line.
05:18Plus make it.
05:19Yeah.
05:19Yeah.
05:20Yeah.
05:20I feel like that equals.
05:22Oh, I'm listening.
05:24Did anybody have any questions about their character before they said yes?
05:32Yeah.
05:33Um, I, I, uh, I got my, the kind of my, my foot in the doors were from a text
05:39from Dave.
05:40Um, he let me know that he had this project and he wanted me to be a part of.
05:46It was a role that he felt like I could, I could kill.
05:49And so, you know, he, he wanted me to talk to Macon.
05:52And then, uh, my first question was, uh, do I do anything weird in the script?
05:57And he was like, no, I, I, I do the weird stuff.
06:00I got you.
06:00That's right.
06:01I got you.
06:01Yeah.
06:02I appreciate it.
06:02Shay's whole life.
06:03He's just trying to avoid being memed.
06:05Um, I got, I got a lot of memes coming for me after this.
06:09No.
06:09Yeah.
06:10Who do you think's the meme most?
06:12I mean, you might be, I don't know.
06:14Who's, who's going to be memed the most?
06:16Yeah.
06:16He's going to get, there's going to be tats of him.
06:18Yeah.
06:18Yeah.
06:19I hope so.
06:20Talk about your character.
06:21Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:23I got you.
06:24I got you.
06:25It was nice to break.
06:28Hey, Fran.
06:29Hi, how are ya?
06:30I play Pricka Bush, the were-whoop.
06:32Mm-hmm.
06:33Um, he's a rapper.
06:35He's, um, a scary sort of rapper.
06:38I think he wants to be scary.
06:42Um, he's, he looks insane.
06:45Um, he believes kind of that his alter ego is a werewolf.
06:49Uh, he, me, me and Peter Dinklage's character, Coco, who's my uncle.
06:54Um, we roll up to the group and sort of cause havoc later in the film.
07:00Um, but he's a fun guy to play.
07:04I love, is this a too much leg?
07:06No.
07:07Maybe not.
07:07It is a lot of socks, but that's okay.
07:09A lot of socks.
07:10Give him a little.
07:11A little skin.
07:12Hey.
07:12Are you wearing long jocks?
07:13I'm wearing long jocks, too.
07:15Damn!
07:15Whoa!
07:16Spoiler!
07:18It's really, it's the coldest day yet in Sundance so far, like, of this week, so.
07:22Oh, really?
07:22Yes.
07:23It's like 19.
07:24Warm, so everybody knows it's cold.
07:27Warm us all up.
07:27Warm us all up with a little, like, Pricka Bush wrap.
07:29Just warm, warm our souls.
07:30Let's just chill out.
07:32Dave, once again, Dave trying to interview me.
07:37In an interview.
07:38Dave wants you to catch fire the way he caught fire last year.
07:40Just trying to put it on someone else.
07:41Well, I'm saying he's where they handed off.
07:44Okay.
07:44Yeah, go.
07:45Go, go, the spotlight's yours.
07:48This is crazy.
07:48Um, what should we talk about?
07:52I, what I will ask you is, okay, like, let's say people who know your character from Zola.
07:58Yeah.
07:58Compare, like, absurdity level, whatever, like, kind of give for those people.
08:03This is like Derek from Zola on acid.
08:06Yeah.
08:06Oh, okay.
08:07Like, this is, well, this is maybe Derek having gone through some hard times and finding music, you know, as
08:14an outlet.
08:15Um.
08:16If you had to sing that kind of music, what would it stop?
08:19It'd be like, murder, murder, murder, murder, murder.
08:22Oh, my, my.
08:22All day.
08:24Murder, money, cash.
08:25Murder, money, cash.
08:26And he did it.
08:27And he did it.
08:27You always get to chop that out.
08:31Fabulous.
08:32There you go.
08:33Um, how did you get your accent?
08:35So.
08:36What was, what was your act?
08:38Tell me about your accent work.
08:39Yeah.
08:39I mean, it was in the script that she was Ukrainian.
08:42And I talked to Macon and I was like, do you want me to do a dialect?
08:45And he said, yeah, sure.
08:46Let's, let's go for it.
08:47So, luckily I had like a little bit of lead up time.
08:52And I worked with a dialect coach and I listened to a tape quite a bit.
08:57And, yeah, you know, it was so, like, I feel like there was not a lot of rules in this
09:06movie.
09:06Everybody got to play something that was so different from who they were and like also have a lot of
09:13fun with it.
09:15So, yeah, I just like prepped it hard before because I didn't want to be thinking about it.
09:21Did you have a phrase or a word or a sentence that like if you needed to get back into
09:25it?
09:26Um, I liked just saying her name, Irina.
09:28That like really like for some reason got, I don't know if it's because it's her name or because it's
09:33a nice sounding word in the Ukrainian dialect.
09:37But, but I did that a lot.
09:38And I would just kind of like be going over it as much as I could.
09:41But Kiernan came in day one and had this whole dance sequence that she choreographed herself.
09:48Did you?
09:49She was, yeah.
09:50Oh, I didn't know that.
09:51She was bleeding by the end of the day.
09:53Stripped around.
09:54She, and she was doing it all with this like very difficult to pull off accents and doing it flawlessly.
10:00Yeah.
10:00Fun time.
10:01What does anyone have, has anyone been on a memorable road trip themselves?
10:07I think I've ever been on a proper road trip.
10:10Yeah.
10:10I'm in a few high-sq tours.
10:12Mmm.
10:13No, no, no.
10:14Tell us about it.
10:15I was in third grade on the up and smoke tour.
10:16Yeah.
10:16Were you there willingly?
10:17Like were you like, this is fun?
10:18Or were you like, oh, I'm being dragged around.
10:20No, it was super cool.
10:21But like third graders should not be on the up and smoke tour.
10:25You know, that's, that's Drace and Warren G, my dad and Eminem.
10:29I saw some.
10:30Were you on the bus?
10:31Were you on a bus?
10:32Yeah.
10:32Yeah.
10:33Were you getting secondhand smoke at all?
10:34Um, I, I realized later on in life that, uh, probably my whole life.
10:41Yeah.
10:41Yeah.
10:42You know, I used to think that smell was overheated speakers cause there was always run music.
10:46Mmm.
10:46They're working hard.
10:48Yeah.
10:48And then I smelled it on the beach and I was like, there's no music out here.
10:52You know?
10:52Um, but yeah, I, I didn't see nothing too crazy except you can't control what the crowd does.
10:58And you know, just flashing here and there.
11:00Yeah.
11:00Eight, nine years old.
11:02And then, uh, yeah, it was just, uh, there is a footage on some MTV show where I am kicking
11:09my dad's ass in NBA 2K Sega Dreamcast about this gaming life.
11:15Mmm.
11:15Yeah.
11:15That's it.
11:16Road trips.
11:17I need leg rope.
11:18Can't be sitting in the car too much.
11:19Yeah.
11:20Need the bus.
11:21Um, if anyone else has a good, otherwise I will go to our final question before we run
11:25out of time.
11:26Let's do it.
11:26Which is, um, I'm asking everyone, what is, what did you buy yourself with your first,
11:32like Hollywood acting job paycheck?
11:34Oh my God.
11:35Like the first time you kind of could kind of get yourself something decent.
11:38I remember I bought my mom a big screen TV, but it was long enough ago that it was one
11:44of those like boxes that you like wheel in.
11:47And so I think it was a nice gesture at the time, but a piece of shit objectively.
11:53Yeah.
11:53Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:56I did my first film when I was 11 years old.
11:59Um, she's beat, she beat me.
12:01You did?
12:01Five years.
12:02She started as a six year old.
12:03That's true.
12:04Um.
12:04I loved your work in Sky High though.
12:07Sky High.
12:0816.
12:09One of my favorites.
12:10Oh, thank you.
12:11Yeah.
12:11It's amazing.
12:11Amazing work.
12:13Um, I, I was, I, I got paid, I guess I'll say I got paid $30,000 as an 11
12:21year old.
12:22Yeah.
12:22And I wanted to do this TV movie called Walter and Henry.
12:25I played Henry and we were shooting in Toronto.
12:29And at the time, electric scooters were not in the world.
12:33And there was like this amazing, there's this like spy shop and they had electric scooters.
12:38So I bought two, one for me and one for my mom who's with me in Toronto.
12:43And we would ride around town and be in our electric scooters.
12:46That didn't take up all the 30 K did it?
12:49That was 2 K.
12:50Yeah.
12:50You know, um, agent, manager, taxi.
12:5320%.
12:54I was broke by 12.
12:56Um.
12:56Tough.
12:57You sold those later for cash.
13:00What's that?
13:00But you had to sell them later for cash when you.
13:02Yeah.
13:03Oh, for sure.
13:04Yeah.
13:04Do you still have them?
13:05No, I think those batteries were bad, you know, at the time.
13:09They melted pretty quickly, I think.
13:11But.
13:12Yeah.
13:13I don't remember.
13:14It was probably the fair.
13:15Build a bear or something like that.
13:18But my mom probably bought me it and I just wanted to feel like I was, I was doing it.
13:22But yeah, starting at six, I don't really, I didn't really have like the, that like concept
13:27of like a paycheck wasn't in my brain yet, which I think was helpful.
13:31Yeah.
13:32That's fair.
13:33My career started while I was fresh out of college.
13:37And, um, so I bought at the time three $5,000, uh, Japanese Katanas.
13:46Oh, wow.
13:47I still have them to this day.
13:49I'm to six.
13:50Whoa.
13:51Yeah.
13:51By the way, I collect Katanas.
13:54Incredible.
13:55Thought you knew we, didn't you?
13:57What about you?
13:59Yeah.
14:00Um, mine was, um, a cop show called The Beat that got canceled before my episode aired.
14:07I played the pizza delivery guy in one episode.
14:10Hmm.
14:10I delivered a pizza to Mark Ruffalo.
14:12Oh.
14:13Um, and Jason Priestley was the director and I got my SAG card.
14:17Did you have a line?
14:18And I was like, yeah, I was, I was mad that he didn't tip me enough.
14:21And I gave him some, some attitude and I was like, we have my fucking foot in the door
14:25now, but the money went to living expenses.
14:27It was like rents and sandwiches.
14:29But, um, I thought I was on top of the world at that moment.
14:34So, whenever we talk about that, it's going to be like full time.
14:37Uh, usual we think he drinks.
14:37We're, yeah, due to life.
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