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00:00it's 105.9 kiss fm detroit's classic r&b's big homie kimbrough friend of the show
00:06miss nico noir is back in the building what up though hey how are you what's what's been up
00:11you know life all right but all the great parts of life i'll say um working on new music planning
00:20on dropping another project this year okay um i've been kind of collaborating more with
00:27people out of detroit or out of michigan i'll say um i got accepted to a residency so yeah i'm
00:35excited
00:35for that residency where okay it's called the container residency okay um our first convening
00:42is february 27th i think um but yeah it's just you know it's a bunch of different local detroit
00:50like it's four different pillars you got artists or music i'll say um food uh fashion and then
00:58there's art okay and then it's just three three people from each category it was a voting thing
01:02so people voted for the top three and yeah we're gonna do a you know collaboration type of thing
01:08it's gonna be super fun i'm excited for it now this is gonna be at the end of february right
01:13our first convening so it's all throughout the year okay we're just gonna like collaborate um just
01:18opportunities opportunities performances all types of things in different locations um no it's here
01:23it's here in detroit yeah okay for the most part we i know we do have something um at idle
01:29wild
01:30this summer okay i'm excited for that because i love idle wild yeah but yeah okay so last time you
01:39were here you had dropped your new ep now you're coming with something new right yes what we got
01:45this we're well me and cardo okay um we we are releasing a song called somebody somebody
01:51um and it's your traditional classic r&b sound this song is really just like a love letter
02:01to not only my future person but really to myself it's about me just preparing myself because before we
02:08meet our person we have to meet ourselves and that's kind of where i've just been at like this past
02:14year
02:14currently i'm just like really working on myself trying to be the best version of myself that i can
02:19be and also taking advantage of my single era like as an adult yeah because before it's like okay yeah
02:26i'm single but you kind of you know you still do your thing i feel like i'm being more mature
02:29about it i'm
02:30being more responsible emotionally mentally with my feelings my heart other people's feelings so
02:36yeah that's dope yes and i had a chance to to listen to it yes love it thank you love
02:44it but
02:44actually i love all your music but this one i was telling cardo off camera i love the guitar yes
02:51that
02:51guitar that's on there now cardo you have produced this right yeah i produced it okay guitars are done
02:57by tzo guitar shout out to tzo yeah so you he's done all the guitars on the songs we've done
03:02so far
03:03i'll usually just play the chords on the piano or like a um one of the synthesized guitars and i'll
03:10send it to him and say can you um play this progression and this style and sometimes i'll send
03:15him other r&b songs like yeah kind of give it that because for every first time i collabed with
03:19him he
03:19kind of had a little bit more of a jazzy feel okay cool but i was going for more of
03:24a you know a
03:25traditional r&b like donnell jones type vibe so i like that so that's kind of vibes a lot of
03:30songs
03:30we do and um so he'll just send back the loops like a four bar loop or eight bar loop
03:34and then
03:35um i'll just build everything around that nice and um so it was cool um putting this together and
03:42you know because i like i said nico he's a real r&b enthusiast he can get on any kind
03:47of style of r&b so
03:48i try to make the chords interesting for so um there were some changes i added to it like
03:54leading up to the chorus i added that walk up i thought that really made it give it gave that
04:00a
04:01traditional r&b sound so you know it was fun putting this together i made some edits recently
04:06as well with some of the bass notes so yeah it came out really nice okay so i think just
04:11the
04:11whole process of putting this together was cool because it originally came well the first verse at
04:15least was a cover she did to um sierra's um and i song okay and that's one of my favorite
04:22songs from
04:23sierra i think sierra's dope yeah get the flowers she deserves i feel like people look at it like
04:27a has-been for some reason and she has a lot of hits so i don't understand that so shout
04:32out to
04:33sierra and um so i wanted to make a song kind of similar to that vibe yeah john b uh
04:39they don't know
04:40something mellow like that chill like that so i kind of came up with that and i was hoping that
04:44she would be able to fit that verse on there she did and she just wrote the chorus and the
04:49second
04:49verse and everything so yeah and i definitely feel that song all the way around you know because
04:53we were able to it was cool that we were able to take that verse that she wrote put it
04:57on to a song
04:57i like that original song yeah because like it's funny you mentioned like you know the whole john b
05:0490s r&b style because that's what i feel when i'll hear it especially like again i hate to go
05:11back
05:11to the guitar because yeah that's like that quintessential sound that you need to make a good
05:18r&b record you know it can be either a guitar saxophone something like that just give me that riff
05:24you know what i'm saying in there so i really like that so you know with with that
05:32and carlo actually did show me some other stuff that you're working on you're working on the um
05:38acoustic version ah yes of this we already have an acoustic version we didn't release it yet but
05:44yeah like i said she also did okay so they'll be coming out okay i have to do a lot
05:49because she um
05:50like i told her she need to do with every album or single needs to be accompanied by um
05:55a live version acoustic version the remix the re-re-mix jazz version that's hilarious
06:04jazz version yeah you kind of see because like i said she she can dive into each bag
06:10um with ease and she does it well she can go full on jazz she can go full on traditional
06:16r&b
06:17she can do some alt r&b she can do some trap so so it's like you know it'd be
06:21cool for her to
06:21interpret this in different ways like you said yeah on her last show she did um
06:24or her what's it uh heavy on the missing you i feel like rock yeah yeah so she did like
06:31a rock
06:31interpretation at one of her shows super fun so yeah that's what i'm saying she's creative like
06:35that to where she can lead with the direction like she has the ear for it yeah a lot of
06:40times with
06:40music having a good ear is what makes you great whether it's producing or singing um so yeah i think
06:47it'll be cool because like i was telling you when it comes to r&b singers you know you have
06:51some who
06:51more so studio singers right then you have others who have great live performances and
06:56you know they uh they do different things with the arrangement that you weren't even anticipating
07:01right you know they might hit a different run than they did on the song so i look forward to
07:06her uh
07:06live versions so that's why i say i love live shows because again you get that version that's not
07:13you know on the album you know you can ad lib you know put another verse in do whatever you
07:21want to do
07:21because essentially it's a live song you know i'm saying just make it your own and there's a sense
07:27of like exclusivity to it too i feel like that's why i'm so against performing with tracks like you
07:33won't hear me performing with a track unless i really really need that you know that foundation for
07:38it um but i live band me every time because i feel like there's there's it opens you up as
07:48the
07:48creative and also the audience to a new version of the song like there's been times where i performed
07:53a song i rehearsed one way and we performed it completely different and i'm surprised i like it
07:58even more so yeah i'm i'm like really really big on just the exclusivity of you know a live version
08:05i
08:05want to hear was what's what you recorded you know so yeah i've heard it so you know with your
08:13live
08:13shows you know you love doing live shows you're so good thank you have you thought about you know
08:18putting out like a live i have actually okay i actually have um i'm honestly as far as the live
08:26thing because i really wanted to do a live version of the the last project but now you know you
08:34never
08:34stopped growing yeah so now i'm like i kind of want to just get into jazz um so i have
08:40like a few
08:40musicians who i'm close with who i'm cool with i went to high school with who are also already in
08:46that scene the jazz scene so i figure it might just it makes more sense to just create jazz like
08:51live
08:52have them play it go to the studio literally perform it and then you know we're recording it as
08:57we perform it so yeah but it is a few songs that i do want to just redo with the
09:02live band i might
09:03redo um can't blame me for sure i really enjoy that one live that's one of my favorites so yeah
09:11so what is your favorite part of the creation process
09:18it varies depending on the song honestly but for the most part consistently i feel like it's the
09:24harmonies i really enjoy stacking harmonies um just coming up with different riffs to harmonize
09:32uh and also just the blend of it all i feel like there's such an importance to blending and some
09:39people find it like super difficult to blend with themselves i personally i like a little texture
09:45um so i i just i enjoy like trying to sing like different tones on different you know singing
09:51different parts with different tones definitely the harmonies now what approach did you take to
09:57somebody somebody somebody like oh somebody somebody um well the harmonies i wanted to have more of a
10:10like a warm embrace as far as the harmonies go i wanted it to feel like super cozy but like
10:18in a sense
10:18of like you know we're here i'm very sure of you know i wanted people to have that mindset
10:24or when they hear that feeling um because it's not a sad song you know being single doesn't mean
10:30you're lonely or alone so i want people to understand that and know that and really like
10:37be okay with being single like i'm not gonna lie sometimes you know the nights do get a little cold
10:44but you know you still it's so much more to life like when you have friends when you're surrounded by
10:51platonic love like the romantic love it's like it'll come when it when you know it'll come when
10:57it comes i feel that i like being alone i like being at home all my favorite stuff is there
11:01and
11:01that's why i'm like i'm taking advantage of the single era because i all of my friends for the
11:06most part are in relationships like committed relationships living together children married
11:12so it's just like i'm gonna take advantage of my single air because i love my alone time so much
11:18i love my non-verbal time sometimes i do not want to talk hey how was your day great cool
11:23let me go
11:24in my room or in my space and that's that like i'm taking advantage of my my little single era
11:29because i feel like it's not gonna last too much longer i have a feeling but yeah that's cool that's
11:36cool yeah yeah um so when you mentioned the harmonies and everything because i had a conversation
11:41with her about that because you know we refer to artists or singers and musicians as recording artists
11:47but yeah i feel like she really embodies that because like artists you know anything of art
11:53right so like her harmonies i look at it like a painting you know when uh the visual artist starts
12:02out you know with the canvas they got to choose the colors yeah whatever they choose to draw then
12:08they start it off you know it might not look like much at first but then as they continue to
12:12layer it
12:13do the shading you know it all comes together and i feel like that's how it is with her harmonies
12:17because she doesn't really have simple harmonies a lot of them are pretty intricate and complex
12:23you've got a lot of different things going on at once that creates that blend and to do that i
12:28feel
12:28like you got to have like i said that ear for music and um so like you lay this vocal
12:34track down
12:35okay how can i what am i going to come with under that yeah is that going to sound good
12:39is it going to
12:39clash and uh and then i just really understand now why they call it vocal producing because it's
12:44basically similar to what i do as a producer when i'm layering sounds yeah you got to choose
12:50the right instrument like this instruments i like this melody but does it sound better with this
12:55instrument or that instrument then the tones of it like she's saying like okay this frequency is a
12:59little too high maybe i could lower the octave right okay it's a little too repetitive and let me
13:04do something different at the end of that pattern you know what i mean to keep it interesting so but
13:09it shows all those choices so having a good ear helps you have those great choices and you know
13:13she's great with um yeah coming up with those background harmonies and the runs that accompany it
13:19and it just shows like she's not just doing it willy-nilly you know a lot of artists whether
13:24they're rappers or singers you know they're just rhyming as long as they rhyme okay i'm cool with it
13:29versus right okay i want to have a multi-syllabic rhyme scheme internal rhyme scheme or it's like
13:33that's intentional so she's very intentional with um the lyrics i feel like she's paying attention
13:39to the chord progression you know if there's tension there what is she saying so yeah she's
13:44one of those artists like yeah she's very intentional like yeah professional yeah no you know this for
13:48people who aren't that deep into music might not really understand what i'm saying but
13:52there's a difference when you're just making music just because you can sing a little bit or you
13:56can rap a little bit versus when there's some intentionality behind it like i'm i know what i
14:02wanted to sound like and i know how to get that out because some people they have the vision in
14:05their mind right i don't know how to translate that now she knows how to translate it you did produce
14:12some stuff on the last ep right no not the last okay so this is the first song no we
14:18did two other
14:19songs together okay okay another single okay now are we gonna be working on something for the new ep
14:26that's coming our ep or oh you talking about mine that i'm playing yeah well not on not on this
14:33one
14:34but yeah we have our own ep coming out yeah whoa it's a lot of like five albums on the
14:42way type
14:42okay wait hold on okay wait wait wait bring it back bring it back bring it back bring it back
14:50when wait wait okay when are y'all two coming out so we're probably about the end of the year
14:54i've
14:54been slow rolling you know what i mean i've been working i've just got a million things i'm always
14:58doing so okay i'm still trying to master some of the things with um sound i'm trying to create like
15:03a lot of it is in the chord progressions like the chromatic walk downs or walk ups you know the
15:08passing chords and turnarounds those things i want to implement but i want to implement them right
15:14yeah now now okay so your ep that's coming you're producing the whole thing yes okay it's a company
15:21by like i said the musicians are to utilize like the guitarist and um like i said that's more of
15:25a
15:26traditional r&b sound right thousands r&b sounds so that's kind of like like since you can make any
15:31style so that's the lane we're in with the music we make it's more of a traditional r&b so
15:37so when you
15:37listen look her up you're going to get different vibes from her from her uh blame nico to who can
15:42blame
15:43nico to our project to the other projects he's working with um devon is his name not deviant sounds
15:49anymore just um that's his producer name okay yeah deviant sounds so they got like three projects on
15:54the way so yeah so it's like when you listen to a catalog it's gonna it's not going to be
15:58the same
15:58thing like you're going to get different vibes of all but it's all going to encompass r&b well we
16:04definitely love to we love variety yeah i love that i don't want to be put in the box that's
16:09why
16:09i call her miss all all things r&b and it's not just because she's versatile with um the different
16:16styles of r&b but because she's great at all things r&b like i say when it comes to
16:21the harmonies
16:22when it comes to the vocal runs the vocal agility just anything that is to do r&b she excels
16:29at and on
16:29top of that she's versatile like she's not she's it's not like she's stuck in just this style of
16:34r&b like i can do any of these styles and doing well anything i can do perform live with
16:39the live
16:39band that's what i'm saying she can do anything yeah so when i see her perform i just be chilling
16:44you know like i don't know what's the deal like when like a lot of times we go into new
16:48spaces and
16:49you know when it comes to r&b every you know a lot of people might be reluctant or they
16:53don't know
16:53like what she's going to sound like i don't know she probably ain't gonna be that great right so i
16:57already know so i'll just be chilling and i just kind of just look at everybody's reaction
17:00people watching yeah they get a little blown away like so because i've seen it all like from the
17:05stems when she sends me the stems i see how she stacks it up how everything's aligned how it's
17:10supposed to be how deep or layered it is intricate it is from seeing her form on the spot acapella
17:16seeing her perform live on stage small crowds intimate crowds big crowds i've seen her in like all those
17:23forms so nice really like i don't really she just do her thing i just send her the beat give
17:28her the
17:29idea i don't ask hey are you almost done with it where you at what can i get it i
17:32just send it to
17:33me when you're done and we good right whatever harmony you want to do she already know what type
17:36of style i want like with this song at the end of it she did this beautiful harmony arrangement exactly
17:41like i wanted she knows what i like i don't really have to say too much she kind of already
17:44knows
17:46you know so i give her all the like i let her just be her like i give her that
17:50creative um freedom
17:53you know like do your thing you know if she wanted you want to change like whatever you think you
17:58know
17:58more than me if you want to add that in there yeah go ahead and add that in there like
18:02so that's kind
18:03of how it is i i let her that's her her vibe you know this is crazy because like my
18:08mind is still
18:08blown that y'all are putting something together out in addition to you said what four more projects
18:15it's it's so as an artist right you you you never stop growing you never stop living right so i've
18:22just been creating so many songs to the point where i'm like creating projects with those songs i'm
18:28sitting on too much music to not release it so i'm really just trying to figure out a plan as
18:34far as
18:34when to release it and how i want to do promo and marketing for them but the project that i
18:39have
18:39coming out soon it's going to be like about 10 songs um i know that's for that one for sure
18:47is
18:47going to be the next one but it's as an artist you never have you never stop having projects and
18:53catalog is important yeah because catalog is like stock you know you could usually you could get paid
18:58from your live performances your radio spins streams if you get them sync licensing and tv show
19:05film um and the more songs you got it's just the more money it opens you up to more um
19:11financial
19:12opportunities if you know the business you know and are aware of those opportunities so it's always good
19:16to have good catalog you know yeah so how do you like with all this like how do you sharpen
19:22your
19:23skills like just to not be like a guess a cookie cutter um i got an answer but it's a
19:33very cliche
19:34answer living that's literally the answer um because excuse me for a very long time like i would think
19:43that i had writer's block okay and then i would talk about this the last time i feel like i
19:48think we did
19:48yeah we did yeah it's really just a matter of going outside getting outside of your four walls
19:53talking to people having human interaction with other people outside of you know um no no i'm not
20:00going to say that because even talking to your friends can just be inspiring enough to write a song
20:05but even just like strangers i have had like some of the greatest thought-provoking conversations with
20:12strangers people i'll just be meeting you know walking on the street or you know at work customers that
20:17type of thing standing in line you know so i i think just living you know existing taking pride in
20:26you know your life yeah um and just just getting out for real just exposing yourself to other
20:34individuals i feel like for me lately what has really been is live music okay um that's that's what's
20:43really been like keeping me sharp for us but and it's so convenient having like musician friends
20:48like people who are in bands and they play jazz and they do all these things because it's on brand
20:53for me i like to support my friends i like to show up for people but at the same time
20:57i also want to be
20:58inspired and i know i'm enjoying myself i i surround myself with some great talented individuals
21:04but live music has been what's really been keeping me inspired i'll literally go out of my way like
21:11what life shows are coming up like i feel like i'm going through a a live music um what's the
21:18word
21:20uh drought drought yeah i'll use that drought right now i had to ask my friend the other day like
21:26when
21:26is your next show yeah because i am feeling so yeah live music that's been my main thing currently
21:33that's what i was telling carter um i'm getting more into my r&b bags i'm i'm a concert junkie
21:40i know
21:40it so i've just been getting into this yeah like bag where i just like i just want to go
21:46to every r&b
21:46show like i don't even go to rap i don't can't tell you the last rap show i've been to
21:51because i just want to just feel that connection you know i feel i get more of a connection through
21:57r&b than
21:58rap yeah that's um something we with our project i'm sure with all our music but um about the music
22:04we're working on i don't want to make it if it's not something real yeah i want people to feel
22:10it
22:10whatever i put out in the word i want people to feel it i want it to resonate with people
22:13exactly most of these songs are love songs you know i'm okay with you know all the topics in the
22:19r&b
22:19breakup songs are cool just feel like at a certain point you know we were getting overload of a lot
22:24of that
22:24or toxic relationship type stuff yeah no i know that's a reality for a lot of people but um
22:30i'm like a lovey-dovey type person and those are the r&b songs that i really enjoy um you
22:36know when
22:36they're endearing because even some of the love songs today they're just a little more childlike or they
22:41sound like they they're meant for high schoolers it doesn't sound like you're talking to a grown woman
22:45that you love right so a lot of the music we're making is just really the music we grew up
22:50loving
22:50enjoying and we want to kind of you know restore that feeling and um like i said if you listen
22:56to
22:56it it's like okay this reminds me of my significant other or reminds me of a love that i yearn
23:02for
23:03and so you know with all the songs that we put out so far you know we usually get those
23:08um that that
23:09type of um feedback like you know they made me cry or it made me want to be in love
23:13you know that's
23:13what that's what i want to hear you know yeah i want you to feel something i want it to
23:17feel like love
23:18like you said we want these songs to be made with love we don't want anything to be forced yeah
23:22we
23:22don't want to just i just put out this song like like from the production to the vocals you know
23:27we
23:28want it all to just feel like love we want it to be authentic yeah and i think that's how
23:32music should
23:32be shouldn't i feel like um we have been conditioned to think that hits are all cookie cutter right yeah
23:40and no that's cool that's that's one way to make a hit you know make something simplistic
23:44uh-huh but when you when you hear some of your favorite songwriters keep saying that in interviews
23:48like this is how you make a hit make it simple make it simple make it simple that's why you
23:51get
23:52all these up-and-coming artists all the songs sound the same because this is what i've been taught is
23:56how to make a hit right you know what i mean even though hits can be any song that you
24:00that your label
24:01markets if it's a good song it's a good song whether it's a slow song up tempo mid tempo so
24:07um just want to
24:08get back to making music that you want to make because we're not we're not signed to anyone so
24:13we have that creative freedom to make whatever we want to make and i think um that's what more
24:18artists should do like make what you want to make exactly and if it's a good song it's a good
24:21song if
24:21you put dollars behind it you can make it a hit yeah you know what i mean so because yeah
24:25like like
24:26i said a lot of people just they're just putting out the same song and now that's why everybody
24:31sounds the same because hey this is how you make it this is what a hit sound like you know
24:35what i mean
24:35it's funny you say that because um i've been listening to um a lot of uh duran bernard
24:41and he's an independent artist of course and he just won a grammy right you know what i'm saying
24:46so i feel like he's an an inspiration to any independent artist that's just out here trying to do their
24:54thing like don't never stop so yeah i definitely feel you coming from on that one for sure
25:02yeah you got you you have to you know what i'm saying if you don't love what you're doing then
25:06what are you doing it's basically work at that point right you making that i don't even really like this
25:11song or this vibe i'm just doing it because that's what a hit is yeah and versus this is a
25:16song i actually
25:16love and believe in i want to get behind that so right that's what i'm on i just and we
25:21have that
25:21freedom i just feel like you yeah when it comes to music it should just be authentic right isn't art
25:25supposed to be authentic right supposed to come from authentic place like i said even if it's not
25:28necessarily my experience it might be what i see others experiencing even a lot of these songs
25:32like some of the concepts that i come up with are things that i um might notice when i talk
25:37to women
25:39different things you know what i mean so we just want to incorporate just real life into the music
25:43like so whether it's your story or someone else's story because usually other people are feeling
25:48the same way you feel what i'm saying so that's what it's about man just making something authentic
25:52i love it i love it so somebody somebody we're releasing it today yeah tomorrow yeah valentine's
26:01day it's just in time for valentine right it'll be the soundtrack to people's valentine's day okay
26:05for the single folks yeah for the single photos so i think we did um talk about this but what
26:12does
26:13this song mean to you and why valentine's day why on valentine's day oh because self-love is the best
26:18love
26:19um i feel like valentine's day it's been marked marketed as a holiday for couples right and single
26:29people be feeling like they can't really partake in it for some reason but i just feel like love
26:33yourself first and that's really the whole premise of somebody somebody the song itself like it's really
26:39about putting yourself first preparing yourself um not and not even just for whatever relationship that
26:48you know you want to manifest but just being better for yourself even if like a relationship
26:53is not even in the picture like i know there are women out there where having a man it's not
26:57even
26:58you know it's not a part of any of their goals or being in a relationship is not a part
27:01of any of
27:01their goals but you can still do better for yourself you know um so that's kind of how i utilize
27:09the song
27:09just you know me being a big girl i'm grown now that just clicked for me too like this year
27:17like
27:17you're actually grown you're turning 27 this year and 27 sounds like a grown number like
27:24that sounds like it gets real i wish i could if i could go back in time
27:31yeah i hear the 30s are pretty fun though i'm excited for the 30s i tell people all the time
27:36that you know when they say they're scared to um turn 30 i feel like 30s i love the 30s
27:42because
27:42i feel like you really grow into who you are like your sense of style you know as you age
27:47you know
27:48you age into your look you grow into your looks i feel like by that time you know who you
27:51really
27:51know who you are you know how you want to dress you know what i mean you probably working a
27:56good job
27:57so you just grow into who you are and it's a fun time you know what i mean especially if
28:02you take
28:02care of yourself if you take care of yourself yeah you age gracefully you ain't got nothing to be scared
28:05about so my my 20s and 30s were reversed so i had to be grown in my 20s oh yes
28:13i had to grow up in
28:15my 20s but my 30s i'm just chilling you do yeah yeah i don't care about i'm just doing what
28:21i want
28:21to do yeah you know what i mean so you know what i can actually kind of relate to that
28:25to the being
28:26grown in the 20s because i've always been pretty mature for the most part like my grandma practically
28:32raised me so i already had like a certain mindset that was like girl why are you why are you
28:39thinking
28:39like this and you 16 years old but also just having younger siblings um i kind of you know had
28:45to take
28:45them on being a middle child and things like that but there was a it was a gap between my
28:51two older
28:51siblings and then my two younger siblings um so it was like i i got kids i feel like like
28:59you know
28:59living with them is like i don't do i i have kids already right that's how i really feel um
29:06so i
29:06relate to the you know just feeling like the 20s was the time where you had to be really really
29:11mature
29:11because now me turning 27 i'm at the point don't get me wrong i'm still i feel like i'm focused
29:17on
29:17stability now more than anything mental emotional spiritual financial all the stability today's society
29:24you need all that all the stability there's too much going on in the world but i'm still taking
29:29advantage of the fact that i'm still young like i don't know why people think 27 or the 30s is
29:35old
29:36now these these younger kids think that's old they really do and that's amazing way at that age
29:41you know what i'm saying but now i'm too old if i'm living like like no i don't you still
29:49really
29:49feel young like yeah i don't really feel old i think a lot of it when it comes to growing
29:54older i
29:55feel like the match the maturing process like the mindset is what feels older yes you start thinking a
30:01different way you start looking at things from a different perspective but yeah you know i still be
30:06feeling like same me when i'm goofy you be goofy all the time yeah even like even having a job
30:12like
30:13i got a serious job i'm thinking like how did i get hired every year like and i'll be in
30:16these
30:16important meetings doing all this important stuff like that's how i feel that's how i'll be feeling
30:20like wow i feel like i was just in high school like i don't know if i'm responsible for this
30:25that's
30:25how i feel but i feel like that's how other people feel when i have conversations we all just feel
30:29like
30:29you you feel like you grow up thinking adults have it all figured out and then you become an adult
30:34and see
30:35other dogs and we all still winging a lot of things we're still all learning and yeah that's how it
30:39is you know what i mean so sometimes we're too hard on ourselves thinking by this age i need to
30:44have
30:44all these things i need to have it all figured out i feel that i mean but you know you're
30:48going to
30:48always be figuring things out yeah in your 50s 60s 70s people still trying to figure it out so right
30:57that's just life that's just how it goes you know what i'm saying it's funny and i meant to say
31:01this
31:01earlier you were saying self-love when i close my shows i always say love on yourselves because
31:07if you don't who else will who else will i always say that at the end of every single
31:12show that i do on here so that definitely resonates with me with the self-love so we're
31:18going to get into the single yep we're gonna get into the single somebody somebody yeah stream it
31:26everywhere um is there anything you want to leave with the listeners um i'm gonna steal what you
31:33said that's cheating i know but self-love is the best love love on yourself um i actually can i
31:40do a
31:40little shameless plug no okay so i actually have a performance coming up it just it literally just
31:47clicked while we were talking um march whatever that last thursday is in march the 27th or the 28th i
31:54think
31:54it's the 20th hold on because i have something going on in march the last thursday yeah the 26th
32:01the 26th um the 26th i'll be performing for r&b thursdays at miss eva's okay and i'm definitely
32:09going to be performing somebody somebody with a live bet okay so yeah and i this is the first time
32:14that i
32:14perform one of our songs with a live bit i feel like i performed something else with a live band
32:19before
32:20um i don't know you might have had um was it african world festival i don't know if you did
32:26i don't know but i will be performing this one was kind of made for that yeah very really all
32:33the
32:33stuff we're doing because i think when you can make a song with already has acoustic guitars and just
32:39the build-ups in there already it um makes it easy for the musicians to go crazy with it okay
32:45and march 26 um miss eva's miss eva's i believe at 9 9 p.m now where is that at
32:51where's miss eva's
32:52that's on livernoy i believe but i also don't want to lie uh it's a black-owned speakeasy
32:57um i think all of um their liquor too is black on like everything they use black on they they
33:05make
33:05uh customized cocktails and everything's for for the night so it's gonna be a a great time
33:14i love miss eva's it's always a great time hey you never been to miss eva's no no no like
33:21again
33:21i'm an old soul so when you say liver noise i'm thinking uh baker's yeah beggars keyboard
33:27i mean one of the same though it's right up the alley yeah i'm gonna say is it can't be
33:33far not at
33:34all can't be far i know i've gone to um what was this over there good times on the avenue
33:40i know
33:40that you've done some stuff there okay pizza bar pizza bar yeah i'm in detroit now yeah
33:46i'm in detroit now gps what gps no i still need a gps and i've been living here all my
33:56life
33:56i like to know where i'm going i mainly use it for the traffic that's why i use it let
34:01me know the road
34:02closures because i'll take a you know a reroute you know the maps they don't tell you but when you
34:08know
34:08your hood you know you know what streets to take you know what streets to not take so that's why
34:13i don't know the west side like that but i don't be like that but the east side i know
34:17a little bit
34:17now the east side is home that's i know a little bit i know the east side look i got
34:22two east siders
34:23up here i ain't trying to get jumped oh i mean i'm not i'm not we don't do that i'm
34:27an honorary i'm not
34:28even from here so that's what i'm saying right here so we don't do that we're classy okay so will
34:34you gotta help me out okay because i don't go to the east side after dark so i know you
34:41lie
34:44look all these times he was about to be jumping me into my dms we be chilling on the east
34:49side
34:49who us the east siders what time all the time
34:56all the time i'm trying to like y'all we be chilling on the east side i feel like
35:02if my car was to break down at the gas station on the east side somebody's going to be more
35:06inclined to help me than on the west side that's where on the east side i'm trying to figure out
35:12where we at because i'm thinking like i'm not like that don't count that don't count
35:21mac and bwick don't count because mac and bwick is like nobody goes to mac and bwick for real
35:27i don't think the people live over there go to mac and bwick just liquor stores just
35:31i don't even think his house is over there no more for real actually no they are building up
35:35are they i believe so i've um yeah i didn't go over there no i saw it on instagram
35:42someone posted on instagram don't these phones be listening yeah they like doing some stuff up over
35:49there yeah like east english village and stuff oh yeah i mean yeah they're doing some stuff
35:56i ain't going though but i'm not gonna be i ain't gonna be there i mean as long as it's
36:00daylight if
36:00it's daylight out oh yeah i don't know i'll be staying away from mac and bwick too and that's
36:05literally like right around the ways for me i don't it's just it's a particular corner store
36:10over there my grandma used to always go over there it ain't the same and then i tell people where
36:14i'm
36:15from and then they be like were you in the hood too and i'm like linwood yeah see yeah i
36:23see the
36:23face of judgment no no judgment detroit is just a great city how about that it is it is a
36:30great
36:31city it is a great city there is no better side there okay you know what on that note let's
36:40get
36:40into the single somebody somebody right here on 105.9 kiss fm
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