- il y a 9 heures
Next Generation of Interaction
Catégorie
🤖
TechnologieTranscription
00:00All right, next up we have someone who is very used to pitching here.
00:07I've had the pleasure of seeing his technology showcased several times over the last few years.
00:13So I'd like to welcome to the stage Edgar from Embodme about his latest tech.
00:19Go for it.
00:20Hello everyone, so I'm Edgar, co-founder of Embodme.
00:24At Embodme, we are the first company to create a new kind of sensor for 3D near-field interaction.
00:34So it sounds pretty barbarian, but near-field interaction can be a replacement for capacitive touch technology.
00:43So the technology that you have in every smartphone and touchscreens in the world,
00:47we have something that can replace and extend this technology.
00:51So imagine inside of your car, this is a situation, an application of a 3D near-field.
00:57Imagine you're trying to just trigger the right app while you're driving.
01:02The icons tend to be very small, right?
01:04Spotify, Waze, you have to hit it right.
01:07And often you have to look at the screen and focus while you're driving.
01:12So it's kind of dangerous.
01:14And what 3D near-field interaction enables is, for example, to be able to hover applications to highlight them.
01:23And as you get closer, you would be able to magnify the elements on the screen for a better accessibility.
01:31Another example, on your smartphone, all the elements are tiny.
01:35When you're texting, when you're choosing an app, imagine you would be, again, able to enlarge the icon,
01:42having bigger letters when you're texting, or integrated in a smartwatch, being able to text from a smartwatch.
01:50Just use the third dimension in the near-field to interact, hover, zoom, manipulate in 3D with the elements.
01:59So this is really what we focus on.
02:02Another option that we can enable is full touchless interaction.
02:07So if you don't want just to enlarge elements, you can also click by not clicking, basically.
02:14This can be, of course, used for personal reasons, when you don't want to dirt the tablets, smartphones and devices.
02:24And in public spaces where you don't want to touch the screens like fast food, airports and so on.
02:33So you might have seen similar technologies, but ours is very different.
02:38We have two sensors to enable the 3D touch and the touchless part.
02:44The 3D touch technology part we have can feel different levels of pressure when you're touching the surface of a
02:55screen or any surface.
02:57At a very high and accurate level, actually.
03:01And the other technology that you see on the right, which is above, is another piece of sensor that we
03:09developed to take control of the interaction between zero, the touch, and up to 30 centimeters above the device.
03:19So, a bit more detail about FMT, 3D touch technology.
03:23What we have here is a resistive ink that you can cover on any surface and screen and being able
03:32to sense the force.
03:34It doesn't only work with fingers, like capacitive, it works with gloves or any objects.
03:39Actually, this technology first used was for music.
03:45We developed a music controller in 2021 that uses this FMT technology to be able to sense very subtle gestures
03:55like vibrato, glissando gestures, or when you're hitting with drumstick.
04:01So, this is what we released first, e-ray touch, a music controller using FMT.
04:08Here, what you see is a matrix of this sensor with LEDs.
04:14And the idea here was to be able to really feel all the musical articulation while displaying all the possibilities
04:22you need in music.
04:24Like keyboards, drum sets, sequencers, mixers, you can display any representation of music on this surface while having a very
04:34high level of sensitivity.
04:37But let's listen and see what it is in reality in a small video.
05:10So, yeah, this product was out about two years ago.
05:14Very low profile.
05:15We did a Kickstarter first.
05:17And just one year after it was released, Coldplay bought a few units and toured the world with it.
05:23Jean-Michel Jarre did too.
05:25He actually invested in the company after buying a few units.
05:28And now the product is continuing and growing in the music tech world.
05:35But I really wanted to talk about the other sensor today.
05:40Because this is what we are unveiling this year at VivaTech.
05:43So, IRIS, infrared intelligent surface.
05:47It's a completely new kind of sensor for touchless interaction that can be embedded in any surface or screen.
05:54And this could really be a game changer for the next generations of touchscreens and smartphones in general.
06:02Imagine the screen actually sees different altitudes up to 30 centimeters above.
06:11You would be able to use those different kind of layers of interaction.
06:17As you get closer, you can unlock different things.
06:21By just getting closer to the screen, you're already interacting with the content.
06:26And this is the technology that can have so many uses in applications.
06:36So, on our booth, which is placed at the center of VivaTech, we are unveiling Super IRIS.
06:43It's a 55-inch screen intended for retail applications.
06:47And what we want to showcase here is how you would be able to pre-order and discover products in
06:563D without touching it.
06:58The screen can be placed inside the shop and used through the window outside of the shop.
07:04It can be used touchlessly and you can interact with all the content in 3D.
07:10So, you can imagine shopping and discovering the product, rotating the articles in 3D to really discover all the details.
07:19And shop in this kind of new mode of purchase, which is called FIGITAL.
07:31So, here is a little example of what you would see on our booth.
07:393D manipulation of objects.
07:47Being able to manipulate the objects and discover them inside out without touching it.
08:05Etc. etc. etc.
08:06This technology doesn't use cameras on the side.
08:09We are really about making the sensors.
08:11And what this implies is we want to embed this sensor in every kind of format, every screen.
08:20And for this, we need to actually miniaturize IRIS to the micro-LED level.
08:27To be compatible with the next generation of smartphones.
08:30As some of you might be aware, smartphones are heading towards micro-LEDs.
08:37Like the Apple Vision Pro is using micro-LEDs.
08:40And this technology IRIS can really fall within the micro-LEDs.
08:45So basically, you would have an RGB array of sensors with RGB IRIS.
08:52And this would make the screen a touch screen, a touchless screen.
08:58And all the intelligence would be at the screen level.
09:02So in terms of integration and projection, it would be just way ahead of what exists today.
09:10And for this, we need to put all the intelligence in a tiny semiconductor.
09:17And this is really what we are working on at the moment.
09:23So I'm finishing up my pitch right now.
09:26And I would really like to welcome you on our booth to experiment with Super IRIS.
09:31And be one of the first to interact with a touchless device.
09:35Thank you so much.
09:41Thank you very much, Edgar.
09:43Well, we've got a couple of minutes.
09:46So what brought about this change?
09:50Because previously, coming to Vivotech, you've been showcasing this wonderful instrument.
09:56That's right.
09:56Is that still going strong?
09:57Yes.
09:58The music product is still out there, growing.
10:01Yeah.
10:02It's still growing.
10:04We still have lots of traction.
10:05Actually, the company is profitable today thanks to the music product.
10:10Yeah.
10:11But what's inside the music product has so many applications in other industries.
10:17And this is really what we want to push.
10:20Yeah.
10:20So basically, it's bringing forward the technology into other applications.
10:25So you showcased a few applications.
10:30Where do you think it's really going to work the most, in your opinion?
10:35Because it's a big area, right?
10:37I mean, tactile screens, being able to interact with what we're seeing.
10:41Yes.
10:42But the big fish is replacing capacitive technology.
10:46Capacitive technology is everywhere today.
10:49Yeah.
10:49In your kitchen, on your microwave, inside the car screens, on your smartphone.
10:54Yeah, yeah.
10:54And we know that Iris has the potential to replace all capacitive technology to make it touchless.
11:02Okay.
11:02And so Iris is your technology?
11:04It's patented?
11:05It's yours?
11:05Yes, it's patented and it's ours.
11:08Okay.
11:08Well, that's a good place to be, isn't it?
11:09All right.
11:10Does anyone in the audience have a question for Edgar?
11:12About Iris?
11:14About the tech?
11:16Come on, it's VivaTech!
11:21Where are you based, Edgar?
11:22You're based in Paris?
11:23Yes, we are based in the north of Paris.
11:25Okay.
11:25In the 18th.
11:27Okay.
11:28All right.
11:28Well, listen.
11:29Thank you very much.
11:30My pleasure.
11:31Thank you so much.
11:32Oh, we have a question?
11:33You want to say something?
11:33Okay, good.
11:35Oh, we did have a mic.
11:36Okay.
11:37Yeah.
11:39Thanks.
11:42Hi, thank you.
11:43So, my question is like, what is the least expected thing that this type of technology
11:48can help people with?
11:50Are you speaking to the mic?
11:51What's the least expected thing?
11:52Yeah, the least expecting thing.
11:53Like, something nobody expects, but it helps with it.
11:57We are actually surprised.
11:58Anyone can answer that question, by the way.
12:01Because it's a tough one.
12:03We are actually very surprised.
12:05Every time we showcase this technology, we have new surprises.
12:08And I think one of the big ones this year was presenting Iris at Stanford University in the robotics lab,
12:18where they work on making humanoid robots feel and pre-detect objects in what they call grasping activity.
12:27And so, by fusing both of our technologies, FMT and Iris, in the robot's fingertips, we would be able to
12:37make them pre-sense objects before they grab.
12:40And when they grab objects, being able to know how much force they apply on objects.
12:46And I think this is huge, you know?
12:49And this is really something we wouldn't have thought of.
12:52So what you're talking about, basically, is touch-sensitive technology, right?
12:55Both Iris and FMT, so pre-sensing objects a few centimeters before they touch, a few millimeters.
13:02And once they grab the objects, know how much force they apply on it.
13:06Ah, yes, of course. That was what you were doing with the instrument.
13:08It's so you're near it.
13:11And basically, you can determine the action by, I suppose, the action you're taking near it, right?
13:16So, okay. I get it.
13:17Yes, that's right.
13:18All right.
13:19Did you prick the microphone back?
13:22Okay, thanks.
13:23All right.
13:24Any other questions?
13:25Before we go, we've got 30 seconds.
13:27No?
13:29All right.
13:30We'll leave it there.
13:30Thank you very much, Edgar.
13:31My pleasure.
13:32Thank you.
13:32See you next year.
13:33Yeah.
13:33See you next year, for sure.
13:37Great.
13:37I got it.
13:38I got it.
13:38Thanks.
13:39All right.
Commentaires