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01:02Si le nom n'aura pas de belles,
01:05c'est totalement normal.
01:06C'est parce qu'elle n'aura été born
01:09deux ans.
01:10deux ans, deux ans.
01:47Nous parlons d'une partnership d'un six strong
01:51European leaders in the tech and automotive industry.
01:57Now, they are joining forces
02:00and are working together to pave the way
02:03to a more sustainable, digital, and connected road for humans.
02:11Now, without further ado,
02:14please just let me introduce them, all of them.
02:17So we have Philippe Oliva in here from Atos,
02:22Luca Dumeo from Renaud,
02:24Patrice Ken from Thales,
02:26Frédéric Le Crevesse from ST Microelectronics,
02:31Aliette Meunier-Lomprey from Orange,
02:34and Bernard Charlez from Dossau Systèmes.
02:43Now, before we get to the big elephant in the room here,
02:48which is that thing over there,
02:50I want to talk about how you came about building this alliance.
02:56Tell me all about Software Republic, Philippe.
03:00The initiative of Luca at the beginning,
03:02I think it deserves also a round of applause
03:05because that has been a terrific initiative.
03:10The way we kick it off is that we've all seen,
03:14let's say, very large movement in the mobility segments
03:17or the arrival of a digital platform,
03:20data analytics, artificial intelligence,
03:22or the requirement of also paying attention to decarbonation
03:25and our sustainability commitments.
03:27So that's really what triggered, let's say,
03:30our willingness to overcome a lot of challenges.
03:33So one of the key items was,
03:36okay, we are all very strong and innovative companies,
03:39but we decided to join forces to ensure that we could come up,
03:42let's say, with much more innovation related to our ability
03:46to openly work together,
03:47to also make sure that we can expand the ecosystem and the environment.
03:52And that's what we really did perfectly by working with private companies,
03:57working with public authorities,
03:58making sure that we were also incubating some startup
04:01to come up with very transformative and very innovative project,
04:05but with one very precise goal that was all about being pragmatic,
04:11improving the time to market and showing, let's say, tangible outcomes
04:14out of these software republic initiatives and projects
04:17that we are leading together.
04:20Nice. Now, it is not the first time that you're here.
04:22You were also here last year when you were just one year old.
04:26So what's new since then?
04:28We made terrific progress.
04:30So you're going to see a lot of innovation
04:32and I really encourage all of you to come and visit us on the booth
04:36because you will see what I mean by providing tangible outcomes.
04:41One of the first very strategic innovations that we did
04:44was to provide a secure platform.
04:46That means embracing cybersecurity.
04:49We call it Detect and Respond.
04:51That's really a cybersecurity environment
04:54that we came up with together and to drive, let's say,
04:58what is really important related to data collection.
05:00It's making sure that the data are protected.
05:02The second big innovation is really a brand new
05:06and the first of its kind with an affordable pricing structure
05:10that is a power charging station that is bi-directional.
05:14So it's also something that you're going to be able to see on the booth.
05:17And that's one of the key initiatives.
05:20So in terms of timeframe, because most of the time,
05:23when we are driving this innovation, it's all about, let's say,
05:26how fast we can go to market.
05:28So first, the cybersecurity work stream is going to be implemented in new vehicles
05:33no later than, let's say, end of 2024, beginning of 2025.
05:38We are also starting to embrace brand new capabilities with a bring your own device.
05:43That is another innovation, especially to assess drowsiness.
05:46So that means very oriented on the driver experience and also driver safety.
05:52So when you say drowsiness, for example,
05:54does that mean that the car will be able to detect if I'm about to fall asleep?
05:57Exactly.
05:58Exactly.
05:59And what matters is that it's really bringing your own device.
06:01So that means it's really something that is working in an open world.
06:04And it's quite a fast fallout because we're going to kick it off and roll it out to the market
06:13no later than in a couple of weeks before the summer vacation time.
06:17Okay.
06:18And it has the bidirectional charge as well, right, inside the car?
06:22Yeah, that's for the power station.
06:25So that's a partnership that we've defined with a company that is called Mobilize
06:29that you will also see the great innovation that we provide.
06:33So it's really interesting because related to what we want to do in terms of also structuring
06:38some urbanization capabilities with all the initiatives that we're driving,
06:43that's really materializing, let's say, in a very pragmatic manner, the great innovation
06:47and starting to tackle also what is important around sustainability commitment
06:52that is all about the load balancing of the energy consumptions
06:56between the grid and between the vehicles.
06:58And one interesting thing here is that you've also developed a training
07:03of programs, right, to start recruiting and including the youth more.
07:06But above all, recruiting women.
07:08And that part I loved.
07:11Yeah, that was part of something that matters a lot to all of us.
07:15And first, because honestly, in terms of panel, we are almost really good in terms of diversity.
07:22But it was all about the ability.
07:25But we all know the shortage of skills, especially in the mobility industry.
07:29And even more when we're touching, let's say, artificial intelligence capabilities
07:33or cybersecurity requirements.
07:35So we decided to come up with our own university to ensure that we can facilitate the onboarding
07:41of young graduates.
07:42But we did even more because now we are also starting to train in high schools
07:47and especially around women to ensure that we can have women in tech and women in the mobility industry.
07:54And that's really something that matters a lot.
07:56We already have 600 apprentices that have been onboarded into the program.
08:02And the pipeline is quite good.
08:05And we are really expecting to assure even more tangible outcomes from those capabilities.
08:09Nice. Thank you so much, Philippe.
08:11Now, moving on to Luca right here.
08:14Let's talk a little bit about what we are about to see right there.
08:18That's a concept car or prototype called Human First.
08:22So tell us a little bit about what that is.
08:26It's a car.
08:28Actually, I remember we had the idea one year ago when I went to visit Patrice in his R&D
08:36center.
08:36And we said, OK, we are working together, but we have to materialize on an object that everybody can touch,
08:45even in the companies, because most of us are an industrial company.
08:48We do product.
08:49And so we had the idea to kind of accumulate all the collective genius around the table
08:54into something physical.
08:56And this is what it is.
08:58And I think it's a pretty remarkable product.
09:02We're talking about something like, I don't know, 15 innovation on the car, on the different things.
09:07And two of them are work first.
09:10So, and to do that in maybe less than one year, for the ones that know automotive, it's pretty remarkable,
09:17I think.
09:17It shows that the team is working together, you know, quickly, very good.
09:23Because I think we started to build it six months ago.
09:27And, you know, I'm very happy to be able to share with the, you know, VivaTech folks this product that
09:35shows that Europe
09:38has incredible engineering capability.
09:41And Europe and France, it's our countries where you really have deep tech.
09:46So you just said you built this car in just six months.
09:51Yeah.
09:52How is that even possible?
09:53I don't know.
09:54I mean, it happened.
09:55I think we had 12 companies working together, more than 100 people working on things.
10:02Of course, you know, designers and engineers from Renault, but everybody participated.
10:07And I think it's an incredible, you know, venture to do it together.
10:12It reinforces the links and the, yeah, the cohesion between the teams.
10:20And it worked.
10:21I don't know how to say.
10:22I mean, at the end of the day, the magic is of innovation.
10:26When it comes from the brain of one person, it's a kind of a genius, but it's an accident.
10:31But when innovation becomes collective, then it becomes systemic and recurrent and structural.
10:36And that's a good thing about it.
10:38So this is, to clarify, this is only a concept car, a prototype.
10:43It's not in the market or on the market yet.
10:48No, it's not in the market.
10:49But something very similar will be in the market from us by the end of this year in terms of
10:56shape.
10:56But we also committed, you know, to bring a few of these technologies in the market for Renault.
11:04And probably all my colleagues will want to sell their technology that they have developed for this project in their
11:10business.
11:11That's the principle of the Software Republic.
11:15Everybody brings what is good at.
11:18And then we're free to do what we want with the technology that we've developed together.
11:22I think it's a very open and modern concept.
11:26So most of these things, when we come to automotive and Renault, will probably come in our products, I would
11:35say, by 27, 28.
11:37Yeah.
11:39And so that's also the good thing about the story is we're not doing, you know, advanced research here just
11:47for the sake of doing research.
11:49What we do in the Software Republic is to turn it then in a series production products.
11:56So I'm sure everybody here must be as intrigued as I am to see what this car looks like.
12:02So can we unveil it?
12:04Of course.
12:05We can show it.
12:07Let's see.
12:09Let's see.
12:33Let's see.
12:49It's fair to say the design is absolutely beautiful.
12:53It looks like it comes from an intergalactic movie.
12:57So, yeah, let's just see how it works.
12:59How do I open this?
13:01Maybe Patrice, can you tell me how I can open this?
13:05Yes.
13:06Yes, I want to enter.
13:08It says, it just asked me if I wanted to enter.
13:10If you come closer, yes, to the car, just stand by.
13:16The door opens.
13:18And that's the first cool innovation.
13:20You don't have to have any kind of key smart cars or smartphone.
13:24The car knows who you are and can recognize you.
13:29Very simple, very easy.
13:31So I'm guessing it works like a facial recognition of a mobile phone, something like that.
13:38So explain how secure is this?
13:40Because, and for example, what if I want to lend this car to a friend?
13:44Is there like a spare key?
13:46Do they have to wear a mask of my face?
13:48How do you do that?
13:50Well, indeed, we use the most advanced, I would say, biometric solutions.
13:55First, when you come closer to the car, you can be, I would say, very accurately identified
14:03by just the way you walk or the way you stand.
14:06That's kind of a behavioral, I would say, identification.
14:10That's pretty cool.
14:12Then when you are just in front of the door, yes, face recognition.
14:16That's quite something which is robust and already working with a mask, with sunglasses,
14:22or with a cap.
14:23And then within the car, we could imagine additional layer of recognition or security,
14:29like silent authentication, but that's for tomorrow.
14:33Sounds good.
14:35I absolutely love it.
14:37It smells like new.
14:39I love it.
14:40Now, moving on to data security, it seems like not only my face recognition this car will
14:48have, but also my bank account, all my phone numbers, debit card.
14:55So I think that can be a point of concern for many consumers out there.
14:59So how would you navigate this?
15:01Well, in fact, we had to deal with the same kind of challenges that we deal with for the
15:08banking sector or for, I would say, highly secured customers.
15:12Definitely, it's a car, but it's also a digital safe or a digital wallet.
15:16It will store, I would say, your personal data, as you said, but also some car data,
15:22which can be very safety critical as well.
15:24So this data needs really to be highly secured, of course.
15:29It's for data privacy matters, but also for data security matters.
15:34And hence, several partners of the Software Republic, and in particular Thales, have brought
15:40some, I would say, highly secured cybersecurity features to make this car safe and secure.
15:47for example.
15:49Now, what has Software Republic done in all this regard, you know, to enforce this data really?
15:58What we have concretely done within the frame of Software Republic, and that's really the power of
16:05pre-grouping, and they would say most leaders in high-tech, it's clearly what we have called,
16:12and Philip mentioned it before, a detect and response probe.
16:16It's a probe within the car that analyzes in real-time data generated typically by the car, and that would
16:24detect,
16:25I would say, a suspicious pattern, if any, of, I would say, data generation.
16:31And, of course, then the appropriate decision would be taken by the car, and it's also, I would say,
16:39the added value, or I would say, the core business of Renault to know what the car should be in
16:44case of, I would say,
16:45this kind of suspicious pattern would be detected.
16:51Now, security is also about the physical safety, to me, about the physical safety of the occupants
16:58of this magnificent car, by the way. So, can you tell us a little bit about that?
17:04Yeah. It's another cool innovation that we have introduced in this car. It's, I would say,
17:10100% of the time, connected car. Of course, if you were trying,
17:15to travel in a big city or on the motorway, the car is already connected, or you are connected through
17:24your smartphone.
17:25But it may happen that you drive in isolated or remote places where there is no, I would say,
17:32terrestrial connection. Hence, we have added a satellite communication link, so the car will be connected anywhere,
17:41everywhere, everywhere, all the time. And this is key for, I would say, safety features.
17:46If it happens that you have an accident, may happen from time to time, even with this beautiful car,
17:53then the car will be able to send an emergency signal to emergency services.
17:59A bit like the Apple Watch in the US, that brings this kind of, I would say, safety feature.
18:05This car can be seen as dissimilar or the equivalent of what Apple is doing in the US in terms
18:11of safety.
18:13Now, even though safety, of course, is paramount for users, it seems that one of the most pressing topics here
18:21is the environment right now. So, moving on to Frédérique. Now, you represent ST Electronics.
18:28You're a global semiconductor leader working with more than 200,000 customers and thousands of partners,
18:35including in the automotive sector. So, how can we combine the growing demand and energy
18:42with the sustainable and societal challenges?
18:47Yeah, thank you. Well, this car is definitely a very good example of how we can address
18:54decarbonisation and digitalisation. It's an object with a high electronic aspect in it.
19:04Today, just to give you some example, a traditional car is around worth $550 of semiconductor content.
19:14If you take the exact same car, but you electrified it, it's around $1,300 of semiconductor content.
19:23So, you see how much, you know, the content can increase depending on what you do with the car.
19:29And within the time, if we get back to 2002, between 2002 and 2017, the content of semiconductor doubled.
19:40And from 2017 and four years more, the content doubled again.
19:47So, it shows, you know, the acceleration of the semiconductor and the electronic content in the car.
19:53Let me give you two examples. The first one is a key technology supporting the sustainability mobility,
20:01which is called a silicon carbide. It may sense a little bit technical, but the silicon carbide is a component
20:08which is used in the electric vehicle. And it has a great feature. For instance, thanks to the silicon carbide
20:17in electric vehicle,
20:18we can increase the driving range, which we all want, you know, in our electric car today.
20:24It can decrease the battery size. And we know that, you know, when you have an electric vehicle, the battery
20:29pack
20:29take a lot of space in the car. So, thanks to this technology, we can really reduce the battery size,
20:37which then you lower the weight of the vehicle, which is important as well for the autonomy.
20:42We raise the battery lifetime. And finally, we reduce the charging time as well.
20:49So, we are, with Renault and with other partners, very much engaged to increase the capacity in Europe
20:58to be able to produce more components for the electric vehicle.
21:05A second example is we all know that the number of EV on the road is increasing dramatically.
21:13Just to give you two figures, in 2021, it was 10 million electric vehicles on the road.
21:20And in 2025, 30 million. So, this means this will have also a big effect on the electrical grid.
21:30And one thing that the Software Republic, we all worked on it, and we are now proposing a product that
21:38is almost coming,
21:39you know, to sale, which is the power box. And the power box is what we call bidirectional.
21:45What does it mean? For instance, you arrive with your car, six, seven o'clock at home.
21:50This is the peak of the electricity grid at this time. You put your car within, you know, the charging,
21:57but instead of your car being charred, the electricity that you are left in the car go back into your
22:04home.
22:06So, during the peak hour, and when, you know, the peak hour is over, when everybody goes to bed,
22:12then the car gets recharged. So, this is what we mean by the bidirectional charger.
22:17We are very pleased, you know, as a group here to introduce that.
22:21And we are pleased as well to announce our first contract with a major European retailer.
22:29I cannot say the name yet, but it's going to come soon.
22:32Nice. Well, one of the things that I really liked was before when you were talking about the battery,
22:37you'll have a reduced battery size that will last longer, it will cover more distances,
22:42and will even take less energy. And now that battery, what it didn't use, it's going to power up your
22:50home.
22:51So, it seems a great sustainable approach to me. So, congrats on that.
22:58Now, you know, one thing that is really new about this concept car is that it actually takes care of
23:06you, right?
23:07So, and I'm talking about health in here. So, can you elaborate a little bit more on that?
23:11Yes, the car will really take care of you. We put sensor and capture sensor in the steering wheel, but
23:20also in the belt.
23:22And those sensors will measure your heart breath, for instance, and will measure as well your way of behaving.
23:34And thanks to that, for instance, if you have a heart failure, the car will be able to safely, you
23:42know, move on the side.
23:44Even if you are on a white zone with no internet signal, because there is a satellite connection in the
23:51car,
23:52the car will be able to get an ambulance, you know, coming to you. And as the car has all
23:59the detail about your health check,
24:03they can even, you know, provide to the ambulance, before the ambulance gets there, all the detail.
24:09So, that's one thing the car can do. Another example, not getting to the heart failure, but if you just
24:15feel a little bit stressed,
24:18and we can feel that, you know, just the way you behave on the steering wheel, well, then the car
24:23can maybe get you a seat massage,
24:25put a nice music and change, you know, the lighting. Same thing, if you start to be a little bit
24:34droness,
24:37but then the car can put maybe a music a little bit lighter, get the air conditioning on, and maybe
24:47put a different music, for instance.
24:49So, the car can really, really help the driver, but also the passenger to feel very safe and very healthy
24:58in the car.
24:59Nice. Now, moving on with Aliette, you know, a lot of innovations mentioned here so far.
25:06But let's talk now about comfort, the comfort and convenience inside this car, on the seats. Let's talk about that.
25:14Yeah, so, the world concept is about, you know, leveraging connectivity. So, Orange is, of course, a well-recognized leader
25:24in the area of connectivity,
25:25and we worked with all our partners to craft a vehicle that is embracing the transformative power of digital innovation.
25:35And, you know, connectivity has become the lifeblood of society, of the economy. Today, there's nothing working without connection.
25:44And we see that all essential services, all businesses are relying upon connectivity. And the car and mobility itself is
25:53now relying upon this principle.
25:55If you look at a modern car, it's now a kind of computer on wheels. You have up to 100
26:03millions of lines of codes in a modern car.
26:07And you have very complex embedded systems meant to manage navigation, maintenance, safety, of course, or entertainment.
26:17And all those systems, they need to interact with the outside world. So, they need first to be updated. So,
26:26you need to be able to send new configurations to those systems.
26:29And they need to interact, to talk with their surroundings, so that they can, you know, understand what's going on,
26:38manage navigation, and so on.
26:41So, their performance, reliable, and sometimes real-time connectivity is absolutely essential.
26:48And the idea here is not to talk about technology for the sake of technology. It's really about the experience
26:55of the driver, of the passengers, like what we do with in-car payment, for instance.
27:00So, in-car payment. Before, I talked about the fact that you're able to store your bank account and your
27:07debit card in there. But how does that in-car payment work?
27:10So, the idea, again, is about experience. So, it's meant to be very, very simple. And to give you a
27:17few examples, you want to pay your parking.
27:20You can do that directly in the car, staying in the car. You can recharge the battery of your car
27:27as well, staying in the car.
27:29You can also rent a bike remotely in advance to anticipate this. And you might tell me, okay, I could
27:38do this with my smartphone.
27:39But the idea here, again, is about the user experience and the simplicity. In a few taps on the touch
27:47screen display of the car, or also with a voice command.
27:52So, you just talk to your car, and you have an enhanced messaging platform, like a chat bot, enabling you
28:00to pay. It's ultra-simple. It's, of course, secured.
28:04You get the receipt on your screen, and then it's very easy. So, you no longer need cash, credit cards,
28:13applications, and your car is becoming the wallet.
28:17So, the idea is that you have to, or you can forget all about your phone, computer, everything, as soon
28:22as you are behind the wheel.
28:24Especially, I think this works when you have to drive long distances and ransom errands in between.
28:29So, let's talk about the unmatched comfort in here. What is it like to sit on those seats?
28:39So, of course, it's not only about payment. The car, we are leveraging a concept that we call V2X.
28:47So, V2X is vehicle to everything connectivity and communication. And the idea is to connect the car to the digital
28:58ecosystem around it in real time to offer services to the driver.
29:04So, imagine, for instance, you are, you know, we have an increasing number of bikes in cities today.
29:11And driving can become quite a complicated experience, especially here in Paris.
29:17You arrive at an intersection, and there is a bike coming somewhere, and you've not seen it yet.
29:24The car will just spot the bike, identify it, send you an alert on your screen, and we'll also count
29:33down, you know, the distance as the bike is getting closer to the car.
29:38So, it helps you as a driver to anticipate, and of course, it's protecting life, you know, and the safety
29:45of the most vulnerable ones, like the people on bikes in cities.
29:52And here, the technology behind it is artificial intelligence, and the point is about sending the right alerts at the
30:00right time to the driver to enhance safety, but also to enhance comfort, as you were mentioning.
30:06And all this connectivity around the car, and the fact that you get in real time the connection to all
30:15the digital ecosystem enables to have a smarter transportation, you know, management overall.
30:22It enables to get better safety, also to manage the potentially traffic and congestion on the roads.
30:30And again, it comes back to the driver's experience.
30:35So, it's really, you have the car becoming a hub, and elevating the experience of the drivers and of the
30:44passengers.
30:45Thank you so much.
30:46Now, something very interesting here is that this car has also a virtual twin, Bernard.
30:54So, what is a virtual twin?
30:59And what is so unique about it?
31:01Easy to explain.
31:02You know, sometimes, I think my wife is having a love affair with her phone.
31:07I want a love affair with a car.
31:10So, how do you do that?
31:13You invent a virtual world where you can do beautiful shapes, you can create beautiful experiences, and this is what
31:23the virtual twin is for.
31:25So, soon, Luca will be a movie director, and he will be reviewing how this vehicle interacts with your life.
31:38Welcome, Bernard.
31:40Where do we go today?
31:42That's the kind of experience, with all the experiences that were discussed here, that are going to make the joy
31:50of mobility again something really useful.
31:56You know, we are used to say software eat the world.
32:01I don't think it's the right expression.
32:04Software create joy for a better environment in life, creating great things, and it's the future of the industry.
32:14So, to imagine new products of the future, what do you need to do?
32:21You need a twin in the virtual world that will help you imagine those experiences that you can then produce.
32:31And that's what virtual twin is for.
32:35And we put it in action for another sector.
32:40No COVID anymore.
32:43We invented, with virtual twin, the virtual vaccine that became a real vaccine with a synthetic control arm on AI.
32:52So, you see, this virtual twin is changing everything in our life, expanding our environment in such a way that
33:02you interact with everything at home, with your vehicle, at work, for health, using your friend twin to increase the
33:15quality of life.
33:16Can you tell us what a day in the life would be of using a virtual twin of human first,
33:22specifically of human first?
33:24You know, the people always underestimate the complexity of creating such kind of sophisticated technology and products.
33:35All my friends here from Software Republic are contributing to connect amazing technology to make it simple, make it useful
33:47for all of us in our real life.
33:49And I think this cannot be done like in the previous century.
33:55It has to be done with virtual world because then you can increase the quality of experience you are going
34:05to deliver when you do such kind of a sophisticated synthesis of the product.
34:11So, the experience economy has this beauty that it has moved the value of product in the value of experience.
34:23If you want it to be sustainable, it's better to do it right first time and it's better to do
34:30it with the highest ownership value for you consumers as opposed to the product value, it's the experience value.
34:40So, I think it's an exciting time. It's the industry renaissance, and that's what we are doing together here.
34:47Even though some of those topics are complex, at the end, it's to create a cool, simple experience for consumers,
34:56passions, and workers.
34:58Thank you so much.
34:58That's the way I see it. So, it's exciting. Software Republic, voila.
35:04Now, before we wrap up this session, going back to you, Luca, as the initiator of Software Republic, how would
35:13you summarize this amazing experience in under one minute?
35:17In? In under one minute.
35:19I think the Software Republic is a pretty unique experience in Europe. And I'm very proud of being part of
35:30this group of great people and great companies. And I hope that this thing will also be an inspiration for
35:36other people, other sectors to do this.
35:39because you really see the result. You see that it works. And I really believe that some of the issues
35:50that we have to face as a society, whether it is energy transition or digitalization, are actually cutting industry and
35:57sectors horizontally.
35:58So, we've got to be able to work horizontally on the thing. And that's the proof that it works. It
36:04can work. So, I hope that some other kind of initiatives like this will emerge.
36:10And I'm actually pretty much, let's say, you know, I kind of agree with what Bernard is saying. Looking at
36:17the thing from an automotive point of view, we always say that, you know, young people, they don't like cars.
36:23Or, yeah, and I think one of the reasons is that we have to bring magic back into our product
36:32to excite the new generation. And with technology, you can do it.
36:38I think nobody's in love with this washing machine. That cannot be the destiny of automotive. We have to keep
36:46the E of emotions into the equation.
36:48And I think we can do it if we really provide products that can create emotion with the people, humanize
36:55the products. There's all the discussion on electric cars, on autonomous driving.
36:59But I think that the intelligent, connected car is probably the thing that will change the experience of the consumer.
37:07And that's why, as a Renault, we want to be really leader in this sector. And, you know, that's a
37:13good proof of our intentions.
37:16Was I below the two minutes? Yeah. Just a little bit, but that's fine. No, thank you all. You are
37:23really the dream team coming with an unstoppable force here.
37:27I really can't wait until we're actually able to buy this product in the market. So thank you so much
37:33again for participating.
37:42Thank you so much.
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