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00:00Hello, one and all, and I'm going to have
00:02the episode of an adventuring party.
00:04I'm your humble GM, Brandon Lee Mulligan.
00:05With me as always are our Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:07Say hi, Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:08Hi, Dusty Do-Gooders.
00:11What an episode.
00:13Oh my god.
00:14I feel like this was the,
00:16I feel like this was such a,
00:19this felt like the whole gang coming together
00:22and it's like, oh, this is why this is the caravan.
00:26This felt like a year of therapy
00:28where you try it for like a while
00:30and you're just like, well this isn't fucking working.
00:33And then you have like a couple breakthroughs
00:35and you're like, well actually maybe it's this.
00:37Maybe it's this.
00:38If I stop thinking about that one time that was awful,
00:40I think that it could be any other way.
00:43Yeah.
00:44It was very, this felt,
00:45there was a lot happened in this episode.
00:47Thick.
00:48Thick.
00:48Like a donkey schlong.
00:50No.
00:52No, I like that.
00:54Two donkey schlongs.
00:55Circumcision for Donk's Circums.
00:58Thick like corn cheeps.
00:59Thick like corn cheeps.
01:00Corn cheeps.
01:01Two donkey schlongs.
01:03Corn cheeps.
01:04Corn cheeps.
01:06Corn cheeps.
01:07I see you, I see you.
01:08Pre-packaged chili.
01:10Pre-packaged chili is the worst.
01:12Funny, I forgot about that.
01:14Funny.
01:14Just the idea of like, oh, some Kraft chili.
01:20And because it was from the before time,
01:22it's been sitting out for what, like, how many years?
01:25Aeons.
01:26Will you guys go with me on this?
01:27Yeah.
01:27Imagine if you will, America's Got Talent.
01:30For what?
01:31Okay.
01:32Hang on, I'll go with them.
01:33Okay, go with me.
01:34Go with them on this.
01:35Go with them on this.
01:35Okay, Katy Perry, she's not doing well.
01:39She's a new judge.
01:40She's judging.
01:41Oh, so from American Idol to America's Got Talent?
01:43I just, I said go with me, and I said help me.
01:45Everyone's gotta go with me.
01:46Yeah, yeah, yeah, go, go, go, go.
01:47Anyway, she's not doing well, any, whatever.
01:49A sweet person comes on stage, they kill it.
01:52They kill it.
01:53The crowd goes wild.
01:55Kill it, like in a thing in a sense.
01:56They do amazing, they do, like, amazing range.
01:59Someone from production comes out,
02:04first place trophy.
02:06Oh my God.
02:07And walks straight to Katy Perry,
02:09and gives it to her.
02:11You were the best judge.
02:13And the crowd goes wild.
02:14This was so fun.
02:16So this is all I know.
02:17No, this.
02:18I'm gonna let it happen.
02:18Brennan, thank you so much for having me.
02:20It was so good.
02:21We have more.
02:22Give it to you.
02:22We have more.
02:23Give it to Simon Cowell.
02:26I loved this.
02:27This was such a success.
02:29Give it to Simon Cowell.
02:31Brennan, sincerely, thank you so much.
02:33We're literally only about to be halfway done.
02:36Ruben Stuttered is about to be crowned.
02:38This was so fun.
02:39The big check comes out.
02:42They give it to Simon Cowell.
02:44Pablo's got the time card.
02:45Yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:46Go with them on this.
02:48Go with them.
02:49I did ask a topic.
02:50This is so fucked up.
02:57What was the deal with that?
02:59It was a slam dunk.
03:01It was a home run.
03:02It was a grand slam dunk.
03:03Can I have your back?
03:03It was the moment.
03:04Please.
03:05Y'all act like you've never fucked up.
03:06Yeah.
03:07Y'all act like you've never whiffed it.
03:08That's you getting Vic's back?
03:12Well, I mean, it was a fuck up.
03:14It was-
03:14Hang on.
03:15What?
03:16Jacob, can I get your back?
03:18Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
03:19You didn't fuck up.
03:20It was perfect.
03:21Yeah.
03:21Oh, that sounds done.
03:22Here's the thing.
03:23That's how you do it.
03:24Oh, that's me.
03:25I get an email to do D20.
03:26I get a cold email to do D20.
03:28I say, I'm a little-
03:29A cold email?
03:30Cold email?
03:31You know these people.
03:32I hop on the phone, I go, I'm a little bit nervous.
03:34I don't play a lot of role play games.
03:36I'm a little bit nervous about this.
03:38You can't mess up.
03:39On the phone, this man tells me-
03:41Which man?
03:44Which man?
03:45David Kearns.
03:46Okay.
03:47David Kearns.
03:48There's nothing you can do to mess up.
03:50Because you're making it all up as it goes along.
03:53There is nothing you can do to mess up.
03:54Let's start over.
03:55Boop.
03:55Well, that's obviously not true on David's part to say that.
03:59Okay.
03:59Can I say what my thought process was going into this?
04:02Yes, yes.
04:02My literal thought process was it was going to be a little private moment to make my friend,
04:06who was not feeling appreciated, feel better.
04:08Yep.
04:09Which, amazing.
04:10We love that.
04:11Amazing.
04:11When I was going Kokomo, I thought maybe Kokomo was going to walk over to me.
04:15I'm thinking that the celebration's going on for a little bit.
04:17I'm sort of gone.
04:18That's funny.
04:19So what happened is your funny friends got in the way?
04:21Yeah, absolutely.
04:22How did you look like you fucked up?
04:23Absolutely.
04:23We real time bungled that.
04:25Absolutely.
04:25We made everyone in the entire area stop and start looking at you.
04:29Yeah.
04:30No role necessary.
04:31We group bungled it.
04:31We know yes and.
04:33Of course we're familiar with no but, but have you heard the shut the fuck up and get
04:36out of the building and joke about it?
04:38What I think was-
04:38Because you can handle it because you're so funny.
04:40But here's the thing.
04:40It was very funny.
04:41And it was very funny.
04:43I think what was being yes anded was you kept saying the word sprint.
04:47I think what was being yes anded was you being like, I sprint.
04:51Sweating through leather.
04:52I sprint.
04:52And that is a Vic Michaelis quote.
04:54Nothing about it read like an intimate moment.
04:57Soaking wet leather.
04:57But what you're missing is I was so quiet.
04:59I don't think there's anything less intimate than sprinting.
05:01You also like planted the seeds of it.
05:04Like you went somewhere for a while to come back with it.
05:07To the whole reveal.
05:09You're right.
05:10Plenty of time to think about it.
05:11Yeah, they were like, I'm cooking something delicious on my own.
05:13Here's what I was thinking about.
05:14Something amazing.
05:15Grading the necklace.
05:16I was thinking about I'm sewing the little pendant on there that says Kokomo, you're
05:20number one.
05:21Is that what it says?
05:21It's so great.
05:22Can I have your back on this for a second?
05:23I don't know.
05:24Okay.
05:24No, please go ahead.
05:26I'm happy you're here.
05:27Yeah, hey.
05:28That feels nice.
05:29I love you and I'm happy you're here.
05:30No, you don't have to say that.
05:32I'm happy you're here.
05:33It's true.
05:33You guys don't have to say that.
05:34We don't have to say it, but it's true.
05:35We don't have to say it, but it's true.
05:36No, stop.
05:37You can't imagine the crazy shit I've done on this show.
05:40I can.
05:40I've seen a bunch of it.
05:41I'm not thinking it's not a fan.
05:42Roll the clip.
05:43Can we just get a short cut to my face going like, what happened?
05:49Everyone at the table going.
05:52Me and you eating dinner.
05:54It's footage of you in an HR meeting.
05:57You're rolling, guys.
05:58Being fired.
05:59It turns out it's illegal to fire me for what they were trying to fire me for.
06:02The legal department at Dropout being like, the show has been exposed to serious risk based
06:06on the creative.
06:07We had a lot of exposure based on that bit Allie did in that episode.
06:10Me going Mickey Mouse gaping hole.
06:13Oh my god.
06:14Put that in there.
06:15Not the one you think.
06:19Not the hole you think or not the Mickey you think?
06:21Not the one.
06:22Okay, now.
06:23Yeah, it's that Mickey, it's Steamboat Willie Mickey, so we're safe there.
06:26Yeah, yeah, yeah.
06:27It's not the hole you're thinking.
06:29It's a strong hole.
06:30A strong hole.
06:31What is that called?
06:33Sounding?
06:33Cut the part, cut the part.
06:34Oh my god, Brendan, please.
06:35Okay.
06:36No, we're here.
06:37Say that one more time.
06:38Sounding seems right.
06:40That's what it's called.
06:41Pac-manning.
06:42Pac-manning.
06:43Yeah?
06:44Well, think about.
06:45Oh, the docks.
06:47Oh!
06:47Think about why.
06:48Think about.
06:49Oh my god.
06:50And what would be the.
06:51We explained docking in the first season.
06:54I think by season 30 it's time to do.
06:57Yeah, it's time to talk about something.
06:58Is this season 30?
07:00It's close to.
07:01Late 20s.
07:02Wow.
07:02Late 20s.
07:03How about it?
07:03What's that?
07:04Great age.
07:0530.
07:06Your show's getting a mortgage somewhere.
07:08Yes, truly.
07:09How about it?
07:11What a beautiful episode.
07:14I don't know.
07:15It's gonna be tough.
07:16I'm here with you and I've got your back.
07:17It's gonna be tough to do what you're doing.
07:18I don't know why I pitch my segues to you specifically.
07:22Not the best guy.
07:22You got an anchor.
07:23Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:24I got your back, you know I got you.
07:25It's more like I know, it's like I know that you won't let me get away with it,
07:30so I know this is the man in the room I need to sell.
07:32Yeah.
07:32You know what I mean?
07:33Sure, sure, sure, sure.
07:33Jacob, I feel like because a lot of us do improv together and I do feel like when we used
07:37to have practices and stuff like that, when people were looking to get us back
07:40on track, they would sort of make eye contact with you.
07:42And then when you stopped the bit, we all kind of knew we were like, okay, let's go
07:44back there.
07:44I feel we have a kinship role-wise.
07:48I was on some teams where it got like rails got deputized to me, even though I would've
07:56been like, I'll get silly.
07:58There was a lot of like, hey, it's actually on you.
08:02I think there was one scene where I actually, in terms of the yes ending of it all, someone
08:06made an initiation and my response was just saying, absolutely not.
08:09And that was, it was the hardest no I've ever given.
08:13Sometimes you gotta throw the hammer.
08:14Sometimes you gotta throw the hammer down.
08:15Yeah, it's never fun.
08:15And I went, the only way we keep this scene afloat at all is if I do not, I have
08:21to play
08:21a character.
08:21I have to be a deeply hard no.
08:23A deeply hard no right now.
08:25Immediate.
08:27But we had a really, really sweet episode.
08:30We really did.
08:30And I got something sick.
08:32That's good.
08:32Roachian?
08:33What does Roachian do?
08:34Once per session, when you fail an everyday challenge roll, use this boon to turn a bitter
08:39failure into a sweet success.
08:42Okay.
08:42Once per session.
08:44Once per session, you just say that was a success.
08:46We had, I was amazed that I thought we were on the knife's edge there with the Justin
08:51Sheffield of it all.
08:54Like, there's a world where you guys just stomp his goofy ass.
08:57Yeah.
08:57He's sabotaging the chili cook off.
08:58Well, this is a fun season, I think, because it's the emotional intelligence season and
09:02it's very hard to not be like, that little turd.
09:06Get him.
09:06Kill him.
09:07Let's fucking cut his ass open.
09:07We got this big bug on our side.
09:09Kill him.
09:09Well, that's the funny thing too, is still trying to be like, in the fantasy of the
09:14Gladlands, which is like, what if in the harsh world everybody was doing their best?
09:19Mm-hmm.
09:20The fun part then to create drama and stakes is to go, everybody's best looks different.
09:24And everybody, and to humanize, I think finding people to humanize that like, no one likes
09:30the square, but I think that moment was so sweet, especially because Quinn's whole thing
09:34is this high determination, very low warmth, that it's like-
09:38This is my people.
09:39This is, it's my people, right?
09:41Yeah.
09:41Like, that idea of being like, being like, well, what if you're not fucking good to be
09:45around?
09:46Are you, should you just exile yourself?
09:47Like, and you wanna strive to like, be a good community member, but you're still like,
09:53actually, yeah, we do, actually we do have to get the food packed by morning.
09:56I know that sucks, man, but really that has to happen.
09:59Being that like, being the ant in the ant versus grasshopper is not fun.
10:04And I thought it was very cool to how you guys, you know, calling for that truce in
10:08that moment, where it was about to pop up, truce, where it was about to pop off, felt
10:14very, it was a, it was a great like promise of the premise to be like, there are villains,
10:21but we are gonna care bears them.
10:23We are gonna go like, you know, we are gonna go in and be like-
10:26But also it's like, you're doing the difficult thing, which is talking through it.
10:29You know what I mean?
10:30Yeah.
10:30Violence is super easy.
10:32Violence is super easy.
10:33You've demonstrated that with this mechanic.
10:35Yeah.
10:35Of the post-apocalyptic like role, you know?
10:37It's my, yeah, my favorite thing, Maisie Rao.
10:39I know I said it before, but it really is that thing of like, violence is easy and doesn't
10:42make you special.
10:43Mm-hmm.
10:43It's easy to yell.
10:44Easy to be loud and insults.
10:46Yeah.
10:46Would've been so much easier in that moment to just kill everybody and save the generator.
10:50Yeah.
10:50And then this guy's not yelling.
10:51It would've been so easy.
10:52Generator town.
10:53No, totally.
10:54Yeah.
10:55Can we go back and have killed him?
10:58It would've been so simple.
10:59But that's normal D&D.
11:01It's like, and then we leveled the town and then we moved on.
11:04Yeah.
11:04Like problem solved.
11:06Yeah.
11:06And you're like, that's so funny.
11:07Totally.
11:07It is an interesting concept for D&D.
11:11I mean like, for people who've been playing it for a minute, like this idea of the aspect
11:19of like the battle mechanics of being so enticing to a lot of D&D players and people like playing
11:26to fight.
11:27Yeah.
11:28And then there's the other mechanic of D&D, which is the connections, the things that
11:33happen when the battles aren't occurring, right?
11:36Stories, social aspects of it.
11:38Yeah.
11:39Because like D&D originally started as just like a sort of like boss rush mode.
11:45You know what I mean?
11:45Yeah.
11:45It was just like monster, monster, monster, monster, monster.
11:48The end.
11:48Bye.
11:48And then it evolved into this beautiful storytelling mechanic.
11:54Yeah.
11:55And one of the things I love about like this specifically is the idea that theoretically,
12:00it's also an interesting question about incentive structures, where this game similar to a D&D
12:05does actually incentivize violence a little bit because it's the skill you're best at.
12:10You roll two D20, like jumping off of trucks, blowing stuff up.
12:14That's the skill that you roll with advantage on a D20.
12:17Like you're great at that.
12:18And it's about, to me, I actually like the moral of like, I like it if it's like, well,
12:26if we're agreeing that it's harder to do things the right way, let's make it mechanically harder
12:32to do things the right way.
12:34And I love that.
12:35I love that.
12:35It kind of mirrors like how you have to be, you know, like if you want to make change in
12:39your actual real life, it requires mindfulness and like an actual attempt at doing it and being
12:46aware that like, oh, all these patterns that are so natural to me are actually not servicing
12:51me anymore.
12:52Totally.
12:52And I have to be mindful that like, oh, I'm going to automatically fall into the patterns
12:56that feel good.
12:57Yeah.
12:57And then I have to actually be like, oh, we're about to kill the guy.
13:00Yeah.
13:01We used to do all this killing and the killing was bad.
13:03Yeah.
13:04Let's learn.
13:04Let's learn.
13:04Let's learn.
13:05Let's learn.
13:05Yeah.
13:05The engine drives up and you go, oh, got to interrupt.
13:12Interrupt that internal process.
13:14Talking to me, I loved also, after that, we had the fucking chili cook off, Thagomizer
13:19and Ash.
13:20Yeah.
13:21Oh my God.
13:21Ash and Tess.
13:23What a fucking...
13:24What a sweetie.
13:24Oh my God.
13:26I can't believe it.
13:27So freaking cute.
13:28Some bug experiments that don't know where they came from trying to do their best.
13:34Just trying to find a family.
13:35And a strange and some other, this other bug.
13:38Who's this like pointy, pointy bad bug?
13:40Pointy bad bug.
13:41Well, I don't know.
13:42Bad.
13:42I don't know bad.
13:43Angry.
13:44Angry.
13:45Right?
13:45Yeah.
13:45Does it feel interesting?
13:46We're both only children, IRL.
13:48Yeah.
13:48Is it interesting to like be in that head space as an only child and be like maybe...
13:53To be like, what does it mean?
13:54Yeah.
13:55What does it mean to be a sibling?
13:56What does it mean to be a sibling?
13:56Yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:57Yeah, kind of.
13:58Because I always, when my, I don't know why my parents were sourcing this with me, but they'd
14:03be like, what do you think about a sibling?
14:04And I'd be like, only older.
14:06Yeah, yeah.
14:07Which they probably didn't take into consideration.
14:10Or did they?
14:10Because I ended up only child.
14:11But yeah, I guess in this I'm like playing what I maybe wanted to have in like, somebody
14:18just support you, make you feel okay, right?
14:21Yeah.
14:21What are we doing?
14:22We're making stuff up, but I'm like, my feelings are blossoming.
14:26I got into it.
14:27I feel like that scene, the whole chili cook-off scene.
14:30Her getting on board was like so above her age range.
14:36Oh my gosh.
14:36We don't know how old she is.
14:37That's true.
14:37She's like orphan.
14:39Right.
14:39She's a thousand years old.
14:40Her first memory was walking.
14:43The orphan!
14:45I'm in the swamp.
14:46Where am I going?
14:47Or that orphan.
14:47She's the orphan.
14:51What's crazy is the organic way of rolling the dice through that.
14:55Well, I love it too because this was like the thing I wanted to do and this was like,
14:59I remember talking to Zach early on where I was like, we're going to do a Mad Max Waterworld
15:03season, but it's not going to be about fighting.
15:06And it's like, well, where do the stakes come from?
15:08It was a great prompt from Zach to me being like, hey, I'm into it, but where do we find
15:14the juice sort of?
15:15And being like, well shit, what is the juice of living a good life?
15:18And you're like, I don't know, man.
15:20There's this older community member who's getting arthritis and this really matters to him,
15:24but this person is legitimately better, but it matters a little bit less to her.
15:27That's the kind of shit that you actually like in a family or a community or a group
15:31of colleagues, you're like, fuck.
15:34There's not, everyone's, I see it all, right?
15:36But this is also a core memory for her.
15:39Yeah, totally.
15:39Of sabotage by adults with the Magna Carta.
15:43Well, I'm not going to lie.
15:43I'm not going to lie.
15:44There was a, the world where you guys secretly sabotage is all groovy.
15:50She would just be like, oh, okay, whatever.
15:52Mm-hmm.
15:52There, I was going to, I was going to dramatically drop the good goo in a world where she spots
15:59that she's being sabotaged and no one explains it to her.
16:02Yeah.
16:02Well, that's why I love these.
16:03And then she doesn't join.
16:04Because I could have like, then that's why I used a boo-boo to pop in.
16:07Pop in with you.
16:07And that helps the story because you're like, oh yeah, your sibling does want to make sure
16:10you're okay.
16:11Yeah.
16:12And then we don't have to bump any good goo.
16:13Yeah, and she can still come with us if that ends up being the thing.
16:16Because I doubt she would have been like, let me join the caravan of all these like,
16:20insanely inappropriate.
16:22Your friends suck actually.
16:23Yeah.
16:23Everyone's fucking with my chili.
16:25I do feel like it is like such a formative memory the first time you're like, maybe I
16:29could have won that, but I'm like, there is a greater good to doing something else in
16:34that way.
16:34Yeah, totally.
16:35And it really, because that's the thing is there was, there's an inherent unfairness
16:38and it is unfair to sabotage her.
16:40It's like, if the thing you're optimizing for is fairness, you let her smoke Thagomizer
16:46and you let him fucking walk it off and figure it out.
16:49That's what's fair.
16:50And what happened with this group is we said, hey, there's six different virtues here.
16:54There's a lot of different things to optimize for.
16:56We can optimize for fairness if we want, or we can optimize for something else.
16:59And in this case, it maybe is letting a dream come true for somebody that is running
17:04out of chances for a dream to come true.
17:05Yeah.
17:06And there is an interesting moment for, I think, it's also so perfect that you're her
17:11brother and that you're big dies in resilience.
17:15Because you're like, I'm immune to radioactivity.
17:17My body doesn't dissolve while this rope dissolves.
17:20And you kneel at that as a big brother and go, hey, this is a raw deal, but here's why
17:25we're doing it.
17:26And it's such an invitation to resilience.
17:29And of course, I had no idea where that was going to go.
17:32I thought you guys might side with Ash.
17:34It would have been totally fair and ethical to go, this little girl's got the juice, man.
17:38We should let her win.
17:40Like, every way you break it down would have been totally fair.
17:44And to go like, hey, this guy really needs this and the community really needs this.
17:49They're all having a really hard time.
17:51And to then go in and be like, I had no pre-planned for how that was going to break
17:57down or go.
17:58And it ends up being the absolute best case where she spots it and then gets invited to
18:04own it.
18:05And then gets-
18:06And happens to be the kind of kid who's down for that.
18:08Yeah.
18:09Which is also really cool for us wanting to be like, oh, wait, now we really want you
18:12to be part of the crew.
18:13But the thing is, that resilience role, she was not about to be down for it.
18:18Like, she was about to fail that resilience.
18:20Because to me, that level of emotional maturity is reflecting resilience.
18:24It's emotional durability to be like, I can weather disappointment.
18:27It's why it feels like as players, the improv being so strong and solid makes such a difference
18:32to being able to make choices because you were so clear with what that character's want was,
18:37which was to be liked and to have community and family.
18:42And so her losing that, to me at least, didn't feel like an end-all be-all.
18:47Whereas this character's want to win this chili cook-off made a very-
18:52And also, us caring about Poppy's want for this and Poppy wanting to help this character
18:57made it really easy to make those decisions.
19:01Because for me, Poppy wasn't around when Ash was saying like, oh, I don't care about winning.
19:07Yeah.
19:08To Poppy, Ash wasn't even a concept.
19:12Again, the awareness is low.
19:14Yeah, totally.
19:14Right.
19:15But the determination for the fantasy, for Poppy to make Thagamizer's dream come true,
19:26like that's so intoxicating for someone like Poppy.
19:30And again, it's that sort of like, it's honestly so reflective of media.
19:36Yeah.
19:37Specifically, reality television nowadays, elimination-based.
19:41Where it is like, I was weird.
19:43I'm the underdog.
19:44And look at me winning this competition.
19:46And it's like, that's what Poppy's like really tuned into.
19:51Yeah.
19:51Of like, always looking at the underdog.
19:53But then you sort of discredit the people who work really hard and deserve that win,
19:59who on paper are just like, this is a great, I'm mapping this to RuPaul's Drag Race.
20:04I'm a great drag queen.
20:05I could do it all.
20:06But oh, the person with the best storyline who was a booger.
20:09Yeah.
20:10Starting out and now like did really well, she ends up winning.
20:13Yeah.
20:13Like to me, that's Poppy down.
20:15Yeah.
20:15Poppy wants the epic.
20:17Totally, totally.
20:18Epic story.
20:18Yeah.
20:19The happily ever after.
20:20Totally.
20:21There's something kind of interesting too, through this decision making of like, for
20:26me, most of the time I've done these, like you meet the group and you become the group.
20:30Yeah.
20:31And then you exist as a group.
20:32So all of the building and the history is like on screen or at the table.
20:35And I felt like that decision was me being like, no, we, I know that these two people
20:39have been doing this for years.
20:41Yeah.
20:41And so like, you have to sort of make these decisions of like, based on faux history that
20:46nobody's really over discussed or anything other than we know that we're a group.
20:50So it's like, you know.
20:51And I know they're not like nasty and mean people.
20:54Yes.
20:54Yes.
20:54So I have to trust that they're doing this for a reason.
20:57Exactly.
20:57Yeah.
20:57Because I think you could have also, Kokomo could have clocked what Poppy was doing
21:01and been like, what are you, what?
21:02I'm the judge.
21:03I'm calling you out.
21:04Yeah, what the heck.
21:05Disqualified.
21:05Yeah, totally.
21:06Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:07Totally.
21:07I think that was like, yeah, that was definitely like on the table where it's like, well this
21:10isn't good.
21:11But then you think like, good for who and how and where and what dimension.
21:14Yeah, it was how you guys built that out.
21:16And that, the fact that like, there was a resilience role that was gonna be her being
21:20like, I am a freak.
21:22People are being mean to me.
21:23They're sabotaging me.
21:24And then to have that little mechanic, but evidenced in, this is like, I'm gonna invite
21:32you to be a part of this project that we're doing.
21:34And then, she gets an outcome better than she could have hoped for.
21:38Because if she had just won, there would have been polite applause.
21:41Who's this girl?
21:42I guess the chili prodigy walked out of the swamp.
21:44And instead, this guy who sacrificed everything for this town gets to put her up on his shoulder
21:50and chant her.
21:51It's like this perfect-
21:52And then this guy gets to wear a medal.
21:57Don't thank you so much.
21:59Don't thank you so much.
22:00Thank you so much.
22:01Thank you so much.
22:01Thank you so much.
22:02I'll see you at the show.
22:03I'll see you at the show.
22:04This was so fun, you guys.
22:05I'll see you at the Allegiant or something.
22:07We're gonna talk about Bub Day and the beautiful show.
22:09Yes, yes.
22:10Can I reveal something?
22:11Yes, reveal, reveal.
22:12So, the first session when we were figuring all this stuff out, I wrote something down
22:17and just sort of, you know, was like, this is not my, this is not my journey.
22:21But I wrote down Bub's Day.
22:24Unbelievable.
22:24Because I had the thought of like, this is, there's gotta be, if we're looking for summer
22:29or if we're looking for respite, it's like a day of remembrance.
22:32And we had this man, and then boom.
22:35And this is like what I'm talking about.
22:37This is the psychic connection of doing this.
22:38This is the June birthday.
22:40Yeah.
22:40Yes, this is, that's not what I was gonna say at all.
22:43No, no, no.
22:44But it's like, this is where, when you work with people that you've worked with a lot,
22:47like, naturally you're going to come to very cool, similar conclusions.
22:51Yeah.
22:52That are really rewarding.
22:54It was such a beautiful, the mirror, the mirror hunk of lead was so great.
23:00Yes.
23:01Asking if there's a reflection, the mirrored hunk of lead, this point of like, a point of burnout
23:07for Hoogie.
23:08Oh, I'm so worried about Hoogie.
23:09That's been standing there.
23:09I know, poor Hoogie.
23:11Having a tough time.
23:12Hoogie's fine.
23:13Hoogie's fine.
23:13Hoogie's charm is out of control.
23:16Hoogie doesn't have to be fine.
23:16Yeah.
23:16Hoogie's charm is like, too powerful.
23:19And it's hard to be like, in the story, like, will I notice that?
23:23And it might be later in the season.
23:25I mean, it's the perfect burnout person.
23:26You know, it's perfect.
23:27Well, Hoogie, Hoogie was the most susceptible, I feel like, to Rot Glob specific social crisis.
23:33Yes.
23:33Definitely.
23:34You know, so getting to that place of a town with low warmth, and I think warmth is your
23:39lowest attribute matching Rot Glob.
23:41Yeah.
23:41Yeah, literally matching.
23:42And the, but that moment of Quinn coming in, of like, talking to Justin, having this beautiful,
23:49this, like, amazing story about, like, cooperation and coming together.
23:53And it's so funny, because cooperation, people can focus on the positive of cooperation,
23:58which is, like, lending a hand.
24:00But in this instance, it's like, well, lending the hand's not the part you guys need help
24:04with.
24:04It's the fucking chatter.
24:05It's like, who's hurting?
24:07Who's hurting out here?
24:08Is everyone okay?
24:09It's like, to be able to receive a complaint and not be, affected is the wrong word, but
24:14you know what I mean.
24:14It's like, you're open to somebody's, like, harsher frequency and being like, that sucks,
24:19man.
24:19That sucks, man.
24:20Yeah.
24:22To take someone's worth, not just in what they do, but in who they are.
24:26Yeah.
24:26Being like, hey, I'm not just a product of the society.
24:30I don't just produce things.
24:32I am a person and here are my feelings, you know?
24:35And the idea of Bub as this guy who's, like, the one jerk in town.
24:39But realizing that it was a perfect, the way you guys set that up of that little piece
24:45of his stomach and then they're hanging it as an ornament with this, I love the reflective
24:48surface, Jacob.
24:49It was so good.
24:49Because then it becomes, everyone gets to go up and look and go, the town loved this
24:54jerk.
24:55Do you think you could maybe share something a little harsh or a little bit rough around
25:01the edges and maybe people would still hold you?
25:03Is, like, so, like, and getting the line, being like, line up, everybody.
25:09And then you have the thing of the nurse gets to have her summer because she goes, it's
25:14crazy that there's one nurse here.
25:16And that is crazy.
25:17Some more people have to become a nurse.
25:18Yeah.
25:19Someone, someone.
25:20Nurse auditions.
25:21Someone, someone give up your preference and come help me right now.
25:26You know, like.
25:26What I love is something beautiful coming out of a mistake because Hoogie made a mistake
25:29in making this thing.
25:31And so I think the lesson that we can take from that is sort of, like, sometimes when
25:33people make a mistake, like, interrupting the whole thing by making, like, a necklace
25:37that they worked really hard on, then maybe their friends sort of, like, let it go.
25:41But once is a mistake, twice is a pattern and we're all improvisers.
25:45So it's our fault if this doesn't become, like, a thing that makes total sense.
25:50Right.
25:51You know what I mean?
25:51You're so right.
25:52I love that.
25:53Not to break the fourth wall.
25:54Jacob loved that episode.
25:56Jacob.
25:57You guys, for you guys, where do you guys think you will, you guys have a lot of fun places
26:03to head off to.
26:04There was something that you mentioned about this town that parties all the time.
26:08Was it Titty Town?
26:08It was Titty Town.
26:10It was, it was the Eternal Dark.
26:12The Eternal Dark.
26:13Which is right past Titty Town, right?
26:15We got the map right here.
26:16It says Titty Town on the map.
26:17It says Titty Town.
26:18Oh, I read it wrong.
26:19I read it wrong.
26:19It was upside down.
26:20Who has a Sharpie?
26:21I can change it to Titty Town.
26:22Yeah, we should change it.
26:23We should change it to Titty Town.
26:24We gotta get there and let them know it's been changed.
26:26Or is it Titty City?
26:27That's why people got confused.
26:29It was New York Titty.
26:30So, New York Titty!
26:32New York Titty.
26:34If you guys want to get back to, if you guys want to get to the Eternal, so the places
26:39that have been mentioned is the Eternal Dark needs food.
26:42Because they're partying all the fucking time.
26:44That's them.
26:45Yes.
26:46Which is where we came from recently, right?
26:49No, you guys came from the desert, I think from Nier to Bloodslug.
26:54We just went to Rock Club.
26:56So, next would be History Heap.
26:59History Heap.
27:00Glider Town's population just doubled.
27:02They found a lot of survivors.
27:03Don't we have a bunch of blood delivered?
27:04Out of character.
27:05A bunch of blood delivered.
27:06You guys got a lot to do.
27:07I mean, the caravan never...
27:09Let me be clear.
27:10For all the folks at home, this season will end with the caravan trundling down the road
27:15to go take care of some people.
27:16Like, the work never ends in the Gladlands.
27:19And don't say that we didn't warn you.
27:20Don't say we didn't warn you.
27:21Zach has to go to Glider Town.
27:23I don't know if Connor needs to.
27:26So, I mean, in that case, like, if we did want to try and like...
27:29We haven't heard about Canlands at all, so maybe...
27:32Where's Bloodslug?
27:33Right there.
27:34Your thumb's there.
27:35What is Bloodslug again?
27:36Bloodslug is a hospital, a makeshift hospital in an old radio tower.
27:42And it does a lot of the radio stuff for...
27:45It, like, manages shortwave communication.
27:47Oh, so maybe that is a good place to stop, because then we can sort of call out and see
27:50if there's any place that, like, is, like, in imminent need of, like, stuff that we've got.
27:54Oh, yeah, that's great.
27:55It's maybe not a bad place to start.
27:56That's great.
27:57And we've got all the blood we gotta take.
27:58Oh, yeah, and we got all the blood from the Blood Drive.
28:00And you got all the blood from the Blood Drive.
28:03I think that makes sense.
28:04If you guys have any stopping by Bloodslug rules, where do you guys think you will head after Bloodslug?
28:12We just kind of have to hear what happens there.
28:14We have to hear what happens.
28:16You know what I mean?
28:16You've got...
28:17Do you have things in history, Heap?
28:19I do.
28:19I got some family in history, Heap, also.
28:22You do?
28:23Yeah.
28:24I think if we can't, in a few minutes we have left, Bloodslug is not a full settlement.
28:29It's sort of, like, glory bound.
28:31Like an outpost, maybe?
28:32So, I think history Heap is probably your next port of call.
28:36Let's do it!
28:38Maybe more info about Beach.
28:39Let's go ahead, if we can, and everybody here roll a d20 for me.
28:45Fucking heck yeah.
28:47And this will just be a short little, we want to define the dice.
28:50Matt won.
28:51Matt won, lovely.
28:52Did anybody get above a 15?
28:54Oh!
28:54Yes, we both did.
28:5516s.
28:5516s.
28:56So you guys can choose where you go.
28:57Let's go ahead and assign our dice.
28:59So the History Heap is on top of a massive mesa.
29:03It's like a big, dry, high altitude, no moisture because it's preserving parchments.
29:08And it's called the History Heap because it's just piles and piles and piles of books and artifacts.
29:12Basically, once the Gladlands started taking care of each other, instead of, you know, doing war, they went out into
29:18wreckage and started, like, getting old knowledge and art and culture from the before times.
29:23So it's like a big, it's like the Gladlands University, essentially, where they're collecting books and other stuff like that.
29:31Let's start assigning dice and painting some details about the History Heap, if you want.
29:35I will go d20 in awareness.
29:39Hell yeah, it makes perfect sense.
29:41Because it's knowledge, education, et cetera.
29:43And what does that sort of say, what's some sort of, like, physical or other, like, detail about the awareness,
29:47like, of, how does that awareness manifest, kind of, tactilely in the physical community of the History Heap?
29:55Um, I think that there are a lot of people who journey to the History Heap to find themselves.
30:03So we have a lot of, like, midlife crisis people there alone.
30:07Yes, perfect.
30:08Alone.
30:08That are there, like, on a solo trip being like, I just thought I had to make it out here.
30:14Just a ton of eat, pray, love, pilgrims.
30:16Yes, yes, yes.
30:16Kind of, yes.
30:18Uh, gorgeous.
30:18Cheryl Strayed.
30:19Awesome.
30:20I'm gonna take a d4 in charm.
30:25That makes sense, though.
30:26It's just like.
30:27Absolutely, yeah.
30:28That makes so much sense.
30:29How are the numbers?
30:30Yeah.
30:30No small talks.
30:32Yeah.
30:32No niceties.
30:33It is business, business, business.
30:34We're sort of setting up, like, this is where Parcel is from.
30:37I mean, Parcel is History Heap.
30:40Yeah, I love it.
30:41Personified, yeah.
30:42Uh, uh, so awareness is d20, charm is d4.
30:45How does that charmlessness, how does that lack of harmony manifest?
30:50Like, I would say people gasp at the word I.
30:54Or me.
30:55Straight up Ayn Rand.
30:56Yeah, it's like, the, uh, uh, I, me.
30:59Any sort of personal.
31:01Please let it go.
31:01Please let it go.
31:02I would love to let it go as well.
31:03Any sort of personal, anything about that person.
31:07Yeah.
31:07Any details that you have.
31:08Well, I was tired.
31:09It's like, we, the concept of that does not compute.
31:12Oh my god.
31:13Yeah, like, why are we talking about your personal experience of this?
31:17Uh, and also I think you've been around, if you're around academics, I think, like, physically for that, there's like
31:22a, the biggest social gathering place is like a debate hall.
31:26Yes.
31:26Like, if you wanna get company, go argue with someone.
31:29Yes.
31:29That's so funny.
31:30Uh, uh, incredible.
31:32Uh, did anyone get between a 10 and a 15?
31:3410.
31:3510 right here?
31:36Uh, uh, let's go for it.
31:37I think creativity then is probably at a d6.
31:39Cool.
31:40Uh, creativity at a d6.
31:42Boy, big at odds with Poppy persona, right?
31:46Um, that's a low, that's a low role creativity.
31:49Is there a, is there a way, Tylee, that that manifests in terms of low creativity?
31:53Um, high on order, I think.
31:55Uh, very, very organized.
31:57I think, uh, maybe the most like, uh, of all of the areas, uh, the most sameness in everything.
32:05Yeah.
32:05Every sort of like, home, uh, even if it's made out of-
32:09Everyone dresses the same?
32:09Yeah, similar outfits, maybe there's some sort of a uniform to the era.
32:12Like scholar monk robes or something.
32:13Yeah.
32:14It is austere.
32:15It is austere at the history heap.
32:17There's not color, there's not a lot of joy.
32:19Uh, I fuckin' love that.
32:21Okay, uh, who did anyone get between a five and a ten?
32:24I got-
32:26Stupid.
32:27I got an eight.
32:28Eight, what do we got for an eight?
32:29And by the way, this is a heads up because we have a few minutes before lunch, so-
32:32Okay, great.
32:33Okay.
32:33I got an eight as well.
32:34Uh, we both got eights.
32:35What's left on the table?
32:37Uh, resilience, determination, and warmth.
32:39And awareness.
32:40Um, do we have a D12?
32:42Do we have a D12?
32:43We need-
32:44We need one.
32:45Yeah, I think-
32:47Creativity's already taken.
32:48Warmth, resilience.
32:49Uh, probably determination I imagine being high.
32:51Yes.
32:52Because they're like-
32:53Steady.
32:54They're actively working to piece time together, and I assume there's probably a multitude
32:59of projects where it's like, um, people are looking for like, maybe there's a group of
33:04people who are just like trying to figure out the year 1990.
33:07Yeah.
33:07And maybe there's a group of people who are just trying to be like, what are weather cycles?
33:12I-
33:13And like, will this ever come back around to not be this type of-
33:18I love that.
33:18Is, is, is, what's the Philip Seymour Hoffman thing in, when in Patch Adams where he's like,
33:23I take this seriously.
33:25I'm trying to be a good doctor.
33:26You know, like, there's a determination, like, this matters.
33:29The world blew up.
33:30We're taking it seriously.
33:31Yeah, I think the town probably thinks it's the most important town amongst the other
33:36towns.
33:36These people, they're like the people who are like, I went to Harvard.
33:38You gotta bring it up a million times.
33:40Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
33:40It's almost like a competitive-
33:42Let's do it.
33:42Uh, I'm gonna assign what's one down, D10, to, uh, Warmth.
33:46Cool.
33:47In that, um, these people that study a ton, I feel like cozy culture is big.
33:51Cool.
33:51Uh, for reading, but also they've read so much that they probably can understand where
33:57somebody's coming from, really.
33:59Yeah.
33:59But they, not that they're like, uh, charming about relating, but they have read a lot of
34:06scenarios.
34:06And they have those buildings.
34:08Like, they're the libraries.
34:09They live in them.
34:10They're really nice, like, homes.
34:11They have spaces.
34:12It's also isolating in its own way.
34:14Yeah.
34:14Absolutely.
34:15I love that.
34:16Love is actually on the higher side because maybe these people, in their charmlessness,
34:19do know each other well, are like, no, there's connection here.
34:23Like, I know what bothers you, and you're very clear about it.
34:26You know, like, and there's a lot of love, but they love what they do.
34:29Uh, Zach, with that D8 left in resilience, is there a detail about that being on the lower
34:35spectrum, but something that they do kind of manage?
34:37It just makes me think of, like, at a library where you could go to the vending machine and
34:41get food, but you're not gonna feel like you had a good meal.
34:44You know?
34:46I love it.
34:46It's a cafeteria food resilience of just being in the, of like, yeah, collegiate academics
34:53being like, packet ramen from a nuclear bunker.
34:56Done deal.
34:56Oh my gosh.
34:56Or like, chasing a lead in a way where you're like.
34:58A pop tart.
34:59Yeah, that's the closest thing to a meal.
35:01I fucking love it.
35:02I didn't mean to interrupt.
35:03I'm sorry.
35:03To the outpost of Bloodslug and beyond the history heap, we'll see you next time in
35:08the Gladlands.
35:09Take care and farewell.
35:10Chili.
35:12Chili.
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