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00:00Yeah, you're diamonds, dream chasers, we won't wait
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00:33I am trying. I think it's working though. I think I'm being better. I don't know. Well, whatever the case may be, this is Yaya Diamond and I am the host of Dream Chasers Radio and I am excited to have my guests on this show today. We're talking about when the gods died. I think that's the way it goes. I'm not sure. Hold on a second. Let me put that up for you because I want to make sure that you know what I'm talking about.
00:58And I think that the screen name, when all the gods died, not just when the gods died, but like all of them. I'm just, I'm in there. I'm in there. You guys, if you don't know, I absolutely love Marvel Comics. Love all the movies that come out about these. And I am just a fan of, I'm already a fan. I'm already a fan. And I want to welcome to the show author of this book, Sudarshan. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
01:26Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And thank you for having me. I mean, I'm excited.
01:31I'm excited too. Oh my God. That's so amazing.
01:35Thank you. Thank you. So, okay. So let's get into this. All right. When did you have that kind of like that feeling that you were going to be writing books like this? Because this is not something that most people write. Most people write about little stories. They write about their lives, which is great. Nothing wrong with it.
01:52But, you know, it takes a little bit of an imagination to actually dive into something like this.
01:58You know, I've been in literature, my mind from very, my childhood. I used to write poetry. Then I decided to go on science and pursue medicine.
02:09And so it was on my side. And then when I had an established practice, kids, then I started reading again, everything, all the literature I missed, literature of America, literature of Europe.
02:22And that's how, then I went to Europe and visited Greece, Turkey. And I saw that all these temples, all these gods and goddesses, they were just confined to the statue.
02:34And I talked to the people. And I talked to the people. They didn't even know. They forgot. They were forgotten. And I couldn't believe it. How could a whole, whole pantheon be just, you know, thrown out of the window?
02:47And it bothered me that they left their culture. Because I came from a culture where our culture is the thousands and thousands of years old. And we still pray to the same gods, still pray to the same goddess.
03:01So that's when I took it up. And I did, started research. And it took me 10 years to know the mythology. Yeah, now I'm comfortable with many of these gods and goddesses, not comfortable with everyone.
03:13And that's when I started writing. And initially, I thought I'll write a textbook. And then I said, this will be only read by a few people, you know, the elites, the professors, the students. So I put it into a story form. So that's why it is so fact, because it has stories, and then my characters move through them.
03:33I absolutely love that. Love it. Love it. I absolutely love it. Okay, so like, if you were to introduce this book to somebody, like, if it was like, you know, hey, an introduction to when all the gods died, the gods died, like to a new audience of people like me that are really, really into it, how would you do that?
03:53If I have to introduce them, I will say that to know the basic, the Olympians first, who are the gods, and goddesses, the Olympians, and before them were the Titans, and the Olympians were the, the, they should know the names, and they should be familiar with what they do, Zeus, who is the king, and he is the god of gods.
04:20Poseidon, Poseidon, he controls the ocean, and the waters, and Hades, who controls the underwater, Aphrodite, the queen of beauty, and then Artemis, the queen, or actually the, the huntress of the wilderness, Hera is the queen of Jews, and Hephaestus, who, who runs the craft, who is a craftsman, Apollo, the god of wisdom,
04:50medicine, medicines, music, Artemis, I already described, who else, similarly, Hestia, who takes care of the heart, you should know the, or the basic gods and goddesses, and then you, you, if you read the book, you'll have the details of these people.
05:07The central message, if you ask me, what is the central message to the arsian, then I would say that our heritage, you know, which includes tangible, and intangible beliefs, faiths, buildings, whatever we, we get from our, our heritage, we need to keep them.
05:25And that, that heritage was lost.
05:29And that's the central message for everyone.
05:33Right.
05:34Keep your, keep your heritage.
05:36Keep your heritage.
05:37You know, I'm looking at the book, right?
05:39I'm thinking about it, and I'm thinking about the shift between the ancient Greek to the Christianity, or the, the modern Christianity, even though it was a little bit different back then, but it's still Christianity nonetheless.
05:51I mean, what drew you to start the story from the historical and existential angle?
05:58Well, I have seen how the foreign invasion, because I come from a, a, a place where the foreign invasions had tried to convert local people to their faith, and also do the biggest thing, which is acculturation.
06:13So I know, you know, that it has, it can happen, but it should be resisted.
06:20And I, I, I know how Apostle Paul brought Christianity in around 49 AD, followed by Apostle Andrew, you know, by the, you know why Andrew's name was Andrew, right?
06:32In my, in my, the protagonist, he was the second apostle who took Christianity there.
06:37And he converted Dionysus, the Aeropagite, who became the first bishop of Athens, in fact.
06:45So my protagonist, you know, has the Andrew name, nothing, I did not plan it.
06:50And in 313 AD, the Edict of Milan, issued under Constantine the Great, allowed Christianity to become the state religion.
06:59And there were a lot of, a lot of violence.
07:02There were a lot of destruction of Greek temples that followed.
07:05And all, all that, the history, you know.
07:08Mm-hmm.
07:08I do know.
07:09Yeah.
07:09Yeah, you know that.
07:11And, and, and, and, and you will say, that's how one whole, you know, concept was eliminated.
07:22And that's, that saddens me.
07:25Yeah, it is, it is sad.
07:26I mean, I understand that, you know, historically speaking, we should be keeping that in line.
07:31We should be keeping that in check.
07:32And we have lost a lot of things.
07:34We lost a lot and, and, and, and all kinds of aspects and all kinds of cultures.
07:38It's sad because a lot of the people that benefited from coming from these cultures, you know, don't know them.
07:47And, and, you know, that's why I believe that Ancestry.com is very important because you can actually, you know,
07:54and, and like all of the other places where you can get your genes tested and, and see back into your history and where you come from.
08:01I had no idea about my whole thing.
08:05I had no idea about where I came from or anything.
08:08And I found out a lot.
08:10I found out a lot.
08:11And, you know, I want to go to the trailer for your book.
08:15I want to play that.
08:16Is that okay?
08:17Yes, of course.
08:18Yeah.
08:18Awesome.
08:18I want to go ahead and put this up on the screen.
08:20We're going to play this trailer.
08:22I want to see this trailer.
08:24Okay.
08:24Hello.
08:25Once worshipped by millions, now nothing but whispers in the wind.
08:33What happened to the gods of Olympus?
08:36Where did they go and why?
08:41In search of history, they crash into myth and awaken something eternal.
08:48Lost between myth and reality.
08:53They must uncover the truth before it claims them.
08:57When the divine falls, the forgotten rise.
09:04The gods never die.
09:07They win.
09:09Read the story they try to bury with the gods.
09:11I'm ready.
09:16I'm ready for the movie.
09:17I'm ready for the movie.
09:19I'm ready for the movie.
09:20It is very cinematic.
09:21And there are a lot of chapters in that.
09:24The beautiful cinematic.
09:26Tesmophoria festival.
09:28The sports.
09:29You know, the chariot race.
09:31You will see that it's intense.
09:33The emotional and descriptive of that time.
09:39It will bring you back.
09:41Wow.
09:42That to me, I mean, look at that.
09:44That to me is amazing.
09:46So going back, I mean, I know you've studied.
09:49And rightfully so, 10 years.
09:52That's a lot of years to study.
09:54It's a lot of mythology that you need to put in your mind and be able with each.
10:01Yeah, definitely.
10:0210 years is a lot.
10:02So what was your writing process?
10:04Ultimately, what was that like for you?
10:07So what I did initially, I did not write anything.
10:10I just research, research, researched.
10:13And after I did the research, each person, each God, when I felt comfortable.
10:19When I could talk to the God and I could tell him what he did, what he should have done as a mortal, what I'm looking at.
10:31That interaction, you know, the first mortal, immortal interaction with me and the gods.
10:35And then I created the models.
10:40So after initially, I have to be comfortable with each.
10:45And it took me months and months and months to comfortable, for example, with Hera, the queen goddess.
10:49To read the volumes and volumes of books, whatever I could get on, you know, from the libraries, from everywhere.
10:56Those, you know, days there were no, not much internet.
10:59So that's how first I created, I read about them, being comfortable with one character.
11:05And then I started writing about him.
11:07And then I put the models to interact with them.
11:11Yeah, I got you.
11:12Is it important for you or was it important for you to humanize the gods while you wrote about them?
11:20It's interesting because most of the books that I read, you know, novels based on the famous retellings of the gods and goddesses.
11:31They were written just like Hesiod or, you know, the Theogony, Iliad.
11:38They were descriptive of the god or the goddess himself, the whole.
11:43And many of them, very popular, were based, you know, on feminine empowerment.
11:53And it was that one person's story.
11:57And I wanted to bring everybody.
11:59I wanted to make them think.
12:04Because gods also think.
12:06They don't do anything without thinking.
12:08How do they think?
12:09Nobody described before.
12:11But then I saw that gods doing the similar things.
12:15They were falling in love.
12:17And they were getting angry.
12:18They were having babies.
12:21How do they do that?
12:23And that's when I entered into their mind.
12:25When I entered into their mind with modern psychology readings,
12:28I realized all those actions could be explained based on the modern psychology.
12:36And doing that, once I started describing their thinking, they became human.
12:41It wasn't my doing.
12:42Gotcha.
12:45Gotcha.
12:46Wow.
12:46And, you know, there are many examples of mortals becoming immortals, right?
12:53So, Heracles, you know, the big guy that you see in the first chapter, you know,
12:59the big football player of seven feet guy described in the first chapter.
13:03Where Asclepius, the father of Madison, Ganymede, the cup-bearing, you know, person for Jews,
13:12they're all mortals and become immortals.
13:17So, they also thought like human beings before.
13:19They were human beings.
13:20Right.
13:21That's how.
13:22And I thought, we are human beings.
13:24If I can explain that on human terms, my readers will understand them better.
13:29Yeah, yeah.
13:31There is one particular character that you are very much drawn to and stands out.
13:37Why?
13:37Who is this, of course?
13:39And why does this character stand out for you?
13:43I don't know which character because for me, all those characters were enigmatic and equally
13:49attractive.
13:50But first chapter is mostly about Hephaestus.
13:53Yes.
13:54Yes.
13:54Hephaestus.
13:55That's it.
13:55That's it.
13:56That's it.
13:56That's what I was known for.
13:58Yep.
13:58It's fascinating that you bring him up because, you know, Hephaestus is not the most attractive
14:04looking, most impressive, and most articulate God.
14:10But he is the ungainly.
14:14He is, he limps.
14:16He was, but why, why did I write so much about him?
14:19Because, because of this exactly, I thought he's the underdog among all the gods.
14:26He was, he was not raised by, by his own mother.
14:28He was thrown out of the window by his own mother and Jews.
14:32He, he, he grew up with some other people, but he was very angry.
14:36But how he uses this anger?
14:39He creates beautiful jewelries.
14:41He creates beautiful weapons and he gives it to the whole world, all the gods.
14:46Because we all may have Hephaestus sometimes inside us, where nobody cares for us and we
14:52think we are ungainly.
14:53We think we are not beautiful.
14:54We think we are not loved, but we can do so much for everybody else.
14:59And that's what Hephaestus is.
15:01Wow.
15:02Wow.
15:03That's beautiful.
15:03And I totally agree with you on that.
15:05Wow.
15:06That is great.
15:07So, okay, so alongside the mystical and the, and the mythological narrative, you introduced
15:13modern characters like Andrew and Rhea, whose plane crashed, delivered them into this ancient
15:18world.
15:19What inspired you to weave a contemporary storyline into a mythological, mythological universe?
15:25And, and how do these two worlds compliment each other?
15:29It was difficult, but all the stories, as I told before, I read before were completely
15:36dealing with one God or the goddesses and they, they just wrote on and on and on the
15:45whole book.
15:47And I found a lot of superfluous, a lot of imagination in them.
15:51They were not even true to those books and they were very famous.
15:55And I said, no, I'm going to do something different.
15:57I'm going to make this relevant to people.
16:01So what I did, I, I, I created a believable journey, Americans traveling Greece, believable
16:09in vacation, modern couple, just like us.
16:12And I made them accidentally to be thrown among the gods and who are living in their own
16:19habitat.
16:21So both are believable.
16:23And that's, and then the inter, how the interaction happened, I had to make those seamless.
16:28Those, those were hard, but you can, you, you know, that is the part that most of the
16:34books will have difficulty with bringing the immortals of thousands of years past to the
16:40mortals of present.
16:41And, and then, you know, if you read, if you read the Greeks, if you read how Odysseus in
16:49Odyssey interacted with immortals, even those days, how Heracles, who was a mortal, how he
16:55interacted with the mortals, I learned from their interactions.
16:59And that's why I made these story where you have something tangible, something you can
17:07believe in.
17:08Some one of you is there.
17:11That's beautiful.
17:12I love it.
17:13Yep.
17:14Yes.
17:14I agree with you.
17:16I mean, bringing it to the humanity part of it and making it seem human is like, okay,
17:22yeah, I got it now.
17:23I mean, and a lot of people don't get that, you know?
17:25Um, so let me tell you something.
17:28There are so many different interpretations of this though.
17:30There's so many different, uh, different theories and different this and different that.
17:35How did you decide which, which element you would remain faithful to?
17:41And I mean, like, how did you introduce your own vision?
17:44I mean, did you give it another twist?
17:48So, I mean, you were essentially asking me, what is the theme of the book?
17:54Aren't you?
17:55Correct.
17:56Yeah.
17:56Yeah.
17:56I mean, how did you, yeah.
17:58What is the theme?
17:59What is my, my.
18:00There's a lot of them out there.
18:01Yeah.
18:02So I will say in our life, when we live our life, if it is true lived life, there is no
18:11central theme.
18:13Every day we, every day we do different things.
18:17We fall in love.
18:18We fall out of love.
18:19We get angry, we become religious, and then we suddenly stop believing in God.
18:26We become a good father, and then we're not a good son.
18:30So love, hatred, anger, retribution, they all play a part inside.
18:36But the central theme, my book should, should make people understand is know thyself.
18:42Yeah, I gotcha.
18:45Yeah.
18:46Oh, yeah.
18:47That's, that's not easy.
18:49I've got some people that don't like themselves.
18:51So, but once you start, they don't like themselves because they haven't really seen themselves,
18:59truly haven't gotten back to them, their soul.
19:02Yeah.
19:02If you truly go back to your soul, you think that you will fall in love with yourself because
19:09that's the original you.
19:11All those things came later on, our anger, our frustrations, our failures, they came later
19:16on.
19:17As a child, you are not like that.
19:19You're pure.
19:21Yeah.
19:22Yeah.
19:22And so knowing thyself is truly very soothing.
19:26So as the readers finish reading when all the gods died, what message or emotional impact
19:36do you hope stays with them?
19:42That they will have to tell me what they're carrying, what emotion they're carrying.
19:47And one thing that I will say will make me happy if I hear that they turn the book and
19:56they start thinking about themselves.
19:59That was I, do I have an Apollo inside me that loves music, that loves reasoning, or do I have
20:07an Aphrodite in me that's so beautiful, that loves the beauty no matter what?
20:13Or do I, am I Artemis?
20:15I am hunting outside, I look at free, autonomous.
20:20I like to just wander around in the unblemished territories.
20:30Do I have, who am I?
20:33And then they should open that chapter and they will find themselves.
20:38And that might raise their curiosity for what else is coming up.
20:45There's something else coming up?
20:46Yes.
20:47Ooh, what's coming up?
20:50So I'm halfway done or maybe 30%, 40% for the SQL.
20:57Ooh.
20:59Yes.
21:00Ooh, I love that.
21:02You know, how difficult is that to come up with something that continues something else?
21:08I think it's very difficult because I included the gist of most of the Olympians and most of
21:19the Greek stories, mythologies inside my first book.
21:22It's abundantly, profusely.
21:24Um, so I, I had left very few things out, but I found a theme to go with this with totally
21:34different, totally different, uh, scenarios and characters that is going to be amazing.
21:40And particularly for, um, you, you will see that there is a lot of, lot of, um, empowerment
21:49of, uh, women in my second book, um, yeah.
21:54And, and, and the role of a mother, role of a wife, role of a lover, um, and, and, and,
22:02and the characters will be different.
22:05Still Greek mythology, but the characters will be different.
22:08The storyline is totally different, but it'll also bring you close to yourself.
22:14Nice.
22:14Oh, that is so good.
22:15I am so happy for you.
22:16You have to come back on when this happens, of course, I have to ask you this question.
22:22Okay.
22:23Cause you know, I'm a movie buff and I absolutely love movies like this.
22:25Is your book going to be considered for a movie?
22:30I have heard from somebody from Hollywood that is doing a project right now and wants to like
22:41read the book and sit with me.
22:43Um, he hasn't told me that he wants to make a movie.
22:46I hope so.
22:47But, but he told me he's a, he's a producer.
22:51He told me once this project is over, then he would like to sit with me and go over certain
22:59things.
22:59I don't know what is in his mind.
23:01And, and, and, uh, that's all I know so far.
23:06I hope you got to do good.
23:08You got to be impressed.
23:09Go with your best suit, you know, take like 10 books with you.
23:14Well, I'm just overdoing it, but I'm just very excited for you.
23:17I mean, these things don't come around a lot.
23:19You know what I mean?
23:20These opportunities are once in a lifetime opportunities.
23:22And when you have a book like yours, it's going to, you know, that's, that's like this
23:26when all the gods died, that's just telling me like Marvel comics or something that tells
23:31me like DC Marvel comics.
23:33It tells me that, you know, this is, this is more than just a book.
23:38Yeah.
23:38More than just a book.
23:39And so being a movie would be like, I would be like the first person there.
23:45Okay.
23:45I would be, I'll be front and center with a big old box of popcorn, just waiting for
23:51it to start.
23:52Yes.
23:54There's a plane crash on the, on the, on the screen.
23:58Sudarshan, thank you so much for joining me today.
24:01Is there anything we left out?
24:03I think, I think I, you addressed most of his issues and I will, I will like to hear from
24:08my readers on, you know, authorsudarshan at gmail.com and learn from them what they
24:15have liked and what they have disliked.
24:18And thank you very much for, for bringing me and to all my readers.
24:23Thank you very much for reading my book.
24:26Well, you can go ahead and go to that website.
24:27I will put the website in the description box below, but that website is it's books by
24:33sudarshan.com.
24:35And if you go down to the bottom, you can go ahead and give a email or, or a phone call,
24:41or you can join on Facebook, Tik TOK, or Instagram.
24:44And I want to thank you guys so much for tuning in.
24:47Myself and Sudarshan are amazed and grateful for your support.
24:52And I don't know about Sudarshan, but if you weren't here, I wouldn't be anybody.
24:57So thank you.
24:58No, I would want everybody to listen to you.
25:02Yeah.
25:02Oh, thank you, Sudarshan.
25:04And I would want everybody to read that book.
25:06You're fascinating.
25:08You're fabulous.
25:08Yes.
25:09Oh, thank you.
25:10And thank you guys so much for joining us.
25:12Don't forget to dare to be different and don't forget to go check out Sudarshan's book.
25:16Okay.
25:16And if you have any questions or comments, you know how to reach up.
25:19I'm going to put the link in the description again, so it'll be easy for you guys to find
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25:23And until next time, guys, don't forget to what?
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25:28Just be good.
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