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A massive showdown erupted in parliament on Monday after Rahul Gandhi tried to quote from former army chief Naravane's unpublished memoir claiming the government showed no political will against Chinese incursions in 2020.
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00:00Good evening, hello and welcome. You're with the news today, your prime time destination news,
00:05newsmakers, talking points, our big talking point.
00:08It's Rahul Gandhi versus the Modi government in parliament in a complete showdown.
00:14Why was Rahul Gandhi stopped from quoting General Narawaneh's book, the former army chief?
00:21What's the government got to hide, if anything, on China?
00:25Or did Rahul flout parliament rules?
00:28All those questions will be raised tonight.
00:30But first, as always, it's time for the nine headlines at nine.
00:36Showdown in parliament after Rahul Gandhi quotes former army chief Narawaneh's unpublished memoir,
00:43claiming the government showed no political will against Chinese incursions in 2020.
00:50BJP slams Rahul for misleading parliament.
00:53The speaker doesn't allow him to make his speech.
00:58Bengal SIR storm intensifies TMC delegation led by Mamta Banerjee wear black shawls during a meet with chief election commissioner.
01:12Mamta takes citizens allegedly disenfranchised with her.
01:17CM accuses poll body of deleting voters at the behest of BJP.
01:21EC sources reject Mamta's charges, says she behaved badly with them.
01:26Months after the Ahmedabad air crash, possible fuel switch defect detected in another Air India London to Bengaluru Boeing aircraft.
01:39AIIB prelim report claims AI-171 plane crashed after fuel switch was moved to cutoff.
01:45Kerala chief minister seeks a judicial probe into Karnataka businessman's suicide case.
01:53Chief minister Vijayan writes to FM Sitaraman questions how the tycoon could lay hands on a gun during an income tax surge.
02:01Markets surge a day after budget announcement.
02:07Sensex climbs by nearly 1,000 points to recover.
02:11Nifty also claws back the losses incurred on budget day.
02:14Centre defence activist Sonam Vangchuk's detention in Apex court claims his speeches were attempting to incite Ladakh's youth to violence and push the region towards unrest similar to Nepal and Bangladesh.
02:31Uttarakhand police filed an FIRE after Bajrang Dalp.
02:37Members protest against Deepak Kumar now named Mohamed Deepak, a gym owner who objected to the harassment of an elderly Muslim shopkeeper.
02:48Deepak too is named in the FIR.
02:50Pakistan cricket board sources say they will follow what their government directs but ICC still hasn't received any formal communication yet.
03:02Team India to travel to Sri Lanka as per schedule.
03:07The biggest Baloch attack in Pakistan in recent years.
03:11Two women's suicide bombers target Pakistan troops.
03:14VLA says about 200 Pakistan soldiers killed.
03:16Pakistan officials claim they've killed 175 Baloj fighters.
03:36But the story that we are breaking at this moment, months after the tragic Air India crash in Ahmedabad,
03:42now we've got another possible fuel switch defect on a Boeing 787-8 aircraft from London to Bengaluru.
03:51Air India says the pilot flagged a possible fuel switch defect.
03:55Pilot reported the glitch after landing in Bengaluru.
03:59Boeing says we are in contact with Air India, supporting their review of this matter.
04:03Air India claims after receiving this initial information,
04:06we have grounded the said aircraft are involving the original equipment manufacturer
04:11to get the pilot's concerns checked on a priority basis.
04:15The matter has been communicated also to the aviation regulator, DGCA.
04:19Joining me now is our correspondent, Divesh Singh, with the very latest.
04:23Divesh, what can you tell us?
04:25This was a plane flying from London to Bengaluru.
04:28What are your sources telling us Air India intends to do in this case?
04:33Well, Radheep, this aircraft that has flown from London to Bengaluru
04:42and it landed in Bengaluru this morning after which the pilot operating the aircraft
04:48immediately reported the snag regarding the fuel control switch.
04:52Remember, this fuel control switch snag had been flagged or had been called
04:57in the primary report, in the primary accident report, primary crash report
05:02of the Air India 787-8 crash that happened in Ahmedabad.
05:08There also it was said that the fuel supply to the aircraft was immediately stopped
05:14after the liftoff within one second and that was a fuel control switch issue.
05:20Now, this issue again has been flagged by another Air India pilot who was also flying a Boeing 787-8 aircraft.
05:29The aircraft flew from London to Bengaluru and after that, after landing in Bengaluru this morning,
05:37the pilot has flagged this issue.
05:39Air India in their official statement have said that they have informed DGCA and they are engaging
05:44with OEM as well regarding the aircraft, regarding the issue flagged by their pilot
05:50and this plane, this aircraft has meanwhile been grounded for further investigation.
05:55Dewey Singh, joining us with those details, we'll wait and see where this latest case goes.
06:04Appreciate you joining us.
06:06Okay, let me turn from there to our big story today because Parliament and the Lok Sabha in particular
06:12erupted in chaos as Lok Sabha leader of the opposition Rahul Gandhi during the motion of thanks
06:19to the President's Address Debate, quoted or began quoting from former Army Chief Naravune's unpublished memoir
06:26that, according to Rahul Gandhi, the memoir accuses the Modi government of hiding certain facts
06:33about the 2020 Ladakh standoff in which, remember, India and China were in a face-to-face combat on the border.
06:43B.J.B. leader slammed the opposition claiming that Rahul Gandhi was lying and the Speaker did not allow Rahul Gandhi
06:51to quote from Naravune's book. As a result, the House was reportedly adjourned.
06:58Defence Minister Rajnath Singh claiming unpublished material cannot be cited in Parliament.
07:04The Congress leader insists that the government is silencing him because they have got much to hide
07:10on their equation with China. Take a look at all the drama that took place in the Lok Sabha today.
07:18The tanks were within a few hundred meters of Indian positions on the Kailash range.
07:23No, sir. No, sir. No, sir.
07:25Hello, the police started. No, no. He is not yielding.
07:27If anything is wrong, Dadda Zinki can reply after his speech, sir.
07:38He is quoting the magazine. He is quoting the magazine.
07:43Pandemonium in Parliament. Proceedings were adjourned twice as discussion on motion of thanks to the President's address
07:50descended into chaos over remarks by leader of opposition Rahul Gandhi.
07:55The showdown began after B.J.P. MP Tejasvi Surya questioned the Congress party's stand on national security,
08:04triggering sharp protests from the opposition benches.
08:09Quoting from an article in Caravan magazine based on former Army Chief General M.M. Narwaneh's unpublished memoir,
08:16Rahul Gandhi accused the government of hiding packs on the 2020 Ladakh standoff with China.
08:21This is about when four Chinese tanks were entering Indian territory.
08:29They were taking a ridge in Doklam.
08:34And the Army Chief writes, and I quote from an article that is quoting his book,
08:41The tanks were within a few hundred meters of Indian positions on the Kailash range.
08:50No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. No, sir.
08:51No, sir. No, sir. No, sir. No, no. He is not yielding. He is not yielding. Sir, sir.
08:57The charge drew a sharp response from the Treasury benches.
09:01The leader of opposition was not allowed to read out the operative bits from the article.
09:05Defense Minister Rajnath Singh accused Rahul Gandhi of misleading the House,
09:10stressing that unpublished material cannot be quoted in Parliament
09:14and that national security cannot be politicized.
09:16Rahul Gandhi hit back, alleging the government was blocking the book's publication.
09:37The Lok Sabha erupted as slogan-earning stalled proceedings.
09:39The speaker reprimanded Rahul Gandhi, reiterating that only published and verified material is allowed in the House.
10:02Outside Parliament, Rahul Gandhi accused the government of being afraid and not allowing him to speak.
10:29Narawanas Singh Singh has written a letter on the trade.
10:36He has written a article in their book.
10:40He has written an article on the article.
10:43He hasn't told me. I am not told.
10:45He has written a book.
10:47Narawana Singh has written a book in his book.
10:49He has written a book.
10:51He has read it because his book has been given,
10:55On record, former Army Chief General M.M. Narwane has repeatedly said
11:18Indian forces stood up to the Chinese, impacting their global image.
11:25In 2020, they have been doing their small and large country with them.
11:33And in this country, they have done what they want to do.
11:40We call them a bully.
11:43In the neighborhood of a bully, they have been doing what they have done.
11:47The first time, they had a joke.
11:49So, if they were 4 or 40, it is not important.
11:54After the face-off in Parliament on Monday, the government insists national security cannot be politicized.
12:01Will the leader of opposition stick to his guns when Lok Sabha convenes remains to be seen.
12:07Bureau Report, India Today.
12:09Okay, let's raise the big questions tonight.
12:14Why was Rahul Gandhi stopped from quoting General Narawane's unpublished book?
12:20Is Rahul Gandhi not following Parliament rules?
12:23Or does the Modi government have something to hide on China?
12:28Is there a need for greater transparency on the India-China border standoff?
12:33Or does it involve national security?
12:36Joining us now, our special guest, Lieutenant General SL Narsiman, Defence Analyst, joins us.
12:42Jyoti Mani, Senni Malai, is Congress Lok Sabha MP.
12:45Aparajita Sarangi, Senior BJP Lok Sabha MP.
12:49Javed Ansari, Senior Journalist, is also with us.
12:53I appreciate all of you joining us.
12:55I want to get you Aparajita Sarangi first.
12:58Please tell me, why not allow Rahul Gandhi, when he is quoting from an article,
13:05to say what he wants and then the government can rebut every claim of Rahul Gandhi.
13:10Why was there a reluctance to even allow Rahul Gandhi to speak?
13:18A very good evening.
13:20The budget session had just begun.
13:23And the entire day today was lost.
13:27And all of us, MPs from all over the country were inside the Lok Sabha
13:32and it was such a condemnable spectacle, I must say.
13:36See, when we are in the Lok Sabha,
13:39we are guided by the rules of procedure and conduct of business in the Lok Sabha.
13:43We are bound by the rules.
13:45We may like it, we may not like it.
13:48But we have to follow the directions of the Honourable Speaker.
13:52I will be talking about two rules from this particular book,
13:57which I have in my hand, if all of you can see.
14:00This is for all to see this.
14:02Yes.
14:03You know, one is of course the 349 rule, which everybody talked of today.
14:08But I will not read out that rule.
14:10I will be taking just 30 seconds to read out rule number 353 and then I will be talking about other issues.
14:19See, 353 rule says, please allow me to read out.
14:24Provided that the Speaker may at any time prohibit any member from making any such allegation,
14:31if the Speaker is of the opinion that such allegation is derogatory to the dignity of the House
14:37or that no public interest is served by making such allegation.
14:42Now it's for the Speaker to decide and we are all bound by the directions of the Speaker.
14:47This is one part.
14:48Now the number two part, we may not like, we may not like, but the fact remains that the matters of national security
14:56sometimes cannot be discussed even on the floor of the Lok Sabha.
15:00We cannot discuss certain issues pertaining to our relations with a couple of countries.
15:06We do not.
15:07And that is the reason why this entire thing happened.
15:10Ma'am, can I know what is the rule?
15:11Yes, of course.
15:12What is the rule which says that matters of national security cannot be debated?
15:16We've had, there were debates on the Sino-Indian War in 1962 in Parliament,
15:21famously where Vajpayeeji spoke, Nehruji spoke.
15:24Why is it that now you can't speak on it?
15:26What is the rule that stops you from speaking on national security, ma'am?
15:29See, there are sensitive matters.
15:32There are sensitive matters which the government feels are sensitive, cannot be discussed.
15:39You may like it.
15:40I may not like it.
15:41But then, you know, if the Speaker decides should not be discussed, will not be discussed.
15:46This is one part.
15:47And number two, let me ask you, Rahul Gandhiji did stand up and did cried hoarse.
15:54I'm not saying no to that.
15:55But then, what was the name of the book that he mentioned?
15:59Please take the video of today's speeches of Rahul Gandhiji, whatever bits and pieces he spoke to us in.
16:06In fact, there was no mention of the book.
16:09This was definitely an unpublished book which we did not know about.
16:15We don't know the name.
16:16Never ever Rahul Gandhiji mentioned the name of the book.
16:20So, I think, as far as the Congress party is concerned, I would call them, please excuse me, they are habitual offenders.
16:29When Uri strike took place, when Balakot took place, they tried everything to ask us where is the proof.
16:36So, they bring down the morale of the army and this is how they do, this is what they do.
16:41We have to accept what they have been doing all through.
16:43So, I think, this was very unfortunate what happened today.
16:46This should not have happened.
16:47And, see.
16:48Ma'am, I have heard you very carefully.
16:52Aparajita Sarangi, I have heard you carefully.
16:56Why were we standing there?
16:58Yes.
16:59Okay.
17:00Let the Congress have equal chance.
17:01If this is not parliament here, I would like to give everyone equal chance.
17:04Jyoti Mani, please respond to what Aparajita Sarangi says.
17:08She says, she's quoted rule 253 which says, matters of a defamatory nature cannot be raised in this manner without giving adequate notice.
17:17A.
17:18B.
17:19She says, there are sensitive matters of national security that cannot be discussed in parliament.
17:23Your response.
17:24See, there is no such rule, as you rightly mentioned, preventing Rahul Gandhiji, leader of opposition,
17:34or any member of the parliament, preventing from discussing about the national security,
17:39first thing.
17:40Second thing, this is nothing to be sensitive because this has been done a few years back.
17:46A.
17:47See, as Aparajita Sarangi mentioned…
17:48A.
17:49What was done a few years back?
17:50No, no, no.
17:51What was done a few years back?
17:52Please be specific.
17:53A.
17:54No, no.
17:55What was done a few years back, ma'am?
17:56A.
17:57I'm just coming…
17:58I'm just…
17:59I'm just coming to the point.
18:00Actually, in 2020, August 31st, in Kailash Range, Chinese PLA army has…
18:09with tanks advancing towards our territory then by madam by the command mr josey called uh then
18:19army chief hello no no madam you are no no madam i no no i am asking you a simple question inform
18:26then army chief no no madam you must answer my question according to the bjp matters of national
18:34security that are defamatory to their leaders cannot be raised in parliament
18:42there is no such things as you rightly said 62 there was a very clear very long discussion
18:47everybody both the opposition and the uh dashri penji has spoken neeruji has replied then again
18:53actually indiraji when we had a war with pakistan um to liberate bangladesh the same parliament had
18:59the discussion the rule is same for uh even then and even now but problem with the bjp is bjp will
19:05take up the rule when it suits their narrative in the same parliament just before rahulji has started
19:10speaking mr tejasvi surya who actually quoted his own research paper and made a defamatory
19:16allegation against the congress party then where were the bjp with that rule book where was mr
19:20speaker with that rule book nobody was there because it's a wild allegation against the congress
19:25party but when rahulji has rightly quoted tejasvi surya quoted he quoted previous president's address
19:33rahul gandhi has quoted an unpublished memoir except of which has been carried in a in a magazine no no
19:39listen listen no no rajdeepji actually one some part of his speech he said actually i have i have done a
19:48research the research shows that you can go back and see his uh thing and not only tejasvi surya
19:54there are many people including the prime minister had made many allegations against the congress party
19:59this is very simple rahulji has said not quoting the book there is a caravan magazine who carried the
20:04some text of the books even at some point rahulji said okay i'm not even quoting the magazine let me
20:09speak about the national security and how the prime minister of this country failed failed the nation
20:14and failed the military leadership uh because based because he is not able to decisive decision in a
20:20decisive moment he let the military leadership to take their own call and he abdicated his own
20:26responsibility this is a shameful this is shocking he let down not only military leadership he let down
20:31the country when our army our military has our military leadership has making very frantic calls to
20:39the leadership of this okay i i am going to stop okay i want to go to you know since rules are being
20:57quoted critical to this can a leader quote from an unpublished memoir excerpts of which are carried in a
21:05magazine can he do that no one better to answer that than pdt achari i'll come to my other guests
21:11in a moment pdt achari spoke to me earlier he's former secretary general of log sabha thank you very
21:16much mr achari for joining me now rule 349 which is being quoted says and i want to quote shall not read
21:23any book newspaper or letter except in connection with business of the house shall not distribute literature
21:30questionnaire pamphlets not connected with business of house did rahul gandhi in your view violate any
21:36parliamentary norms by trying to read out unpublished excerpts of general naran naravne's book which has come
21:43out in a magazine actually you know this rule says that a member shall not read newspaper article or book
22:00unless it is in connection with the business of the house you know that is also very important unless
22:07it is in connection with business of the house now what exactly is the business of the house
22:12the business of the house is the discussion on motion of tanks motion of thanks uh discussion
22:19on motion of thanks is discussion on the matters raised by the president in her address
22:25the president's address you know covers a whole spectrum of issues which the government deals with
22:34national international and all that and also legislative matters now here the question is whether
22:42rahul gandhi was quoting a paper which is totally unrelated to the business of the house now this rule
22:52implies that a member can raise a member can quote a paper or book or whatever if it is related to the
23:00business of the house that is what this rule implies so you're saying rahul gandhi can quote a paper if it
23:07is related to the business of the house in this particular case since it is based on an unpublished book does
23:13that make any difference at all mr achari no it is he was not reading the book he was reading an article
23:22he was quoting an article which of course contains excerpts from that book maybe the point is in the house
23:29physically he was quoting from an article which he can do but the only condition is that he has to
23:36authenticate it he has to authenticate whatever he quotes in the house and he can lay it on the table
23:43of the house so rahul gandhi let me get this clear he has to authenticate it uh or will general naravune
23:51have to say uh publicly yes i stand by uh what i say or the magazine how do you authenticate something that
23:58is unpublished and an excerpt has been carried is it for rahul gandhi who has to authenticate it
24:06mr rahul gandhi when he raises this issue or when he quotes from paper he has to authenticate he has
24:13to say that i stand by this i have verified the veracity of this and i stand by whatever is contained
24:20in this article that is the thing so that is his responsibility he must have checked with those people
24:27and he should as a member of parliament who makes a statement in the house with all sense and
24:32responsibility he has to uh find out from either the caravan or from mr naravani whether this is
24:40right or not because he is going to raise it in parliament and and in your view sir is this connected
24:45with the business of the house the president's address an excerpt of this kind which the government
24:50says has sensitive national security information involving india and china in your view can it be
24:55interpreted that it is connected with the business of the house the president's address the president's
25:02address naturally you know mentions about our relations with our neighboring countries our relations with
25:11the countries far and wide all these things must be there so there must be some mention about the
25:18india china relationship so a mention about this particular incident whatever it is it comes under
25:26that so let me get this very clear rahul gandhi in your view can quote from an article can quote even
25:33from an unpublished book all he has to do is authenticate it prove that the article is genuine and if he does
25:40that he has every right to put it out am i correct yeah he he doesn't have to prove anything he has to
25:47merely say that i have authenticate i'm authenticating it because i have verified the truth contained in this
25:55and i stand by that that's enough that statement is enough and the speaker then thereafter will allow
26:01him because there are empty number of cases where the speakers have decided that the member has to
26:06merely authenticate it he must stand by it but sir in this case the speaker did not allow him to speak
26:14raul can raul gandhi still is it the speaker's prerogative is his word final to decide if raul
26:20gandhi can speak about this issue or not speakers is final speakers word is final you can't do anything
26:28about it you can't challenge the speaker's ruling whatever it is whether it is right or wrong but the
26:33speaker's ruling is the final okay so we've got two clear speaker's ruling is final but you believe
26:39prima facie that raul gandhi can quote from a magazine even if it's an unpublished memoir pdt achari
26:46they're clarifying the position thank you very much i want to now come to you left in general
26:51narasimann then i'll come back to the politics because general narasimann what this involves is a book a
26:57memoir wherein general narasimann in one particular passage according to the excerpt that has been
27:04carried has referred to the fact that the political leadership did not take a decision on whether to fire
27:11on chinese tanks that were coming uh at the time on at the end of august left the decision to the military
27:19leadership this can be interpreted by some as a sign of indecision do you believe that rather than
27:26not allow this to come out in the public domain this should be debated in parliament or not do
27:32you believe really that this is as sensitive as it is being made out to be uh thank you rajdeep for
27:39getting me on your show i'm not going to comment on the political issue of this whether it is allowed
27:44or not allowed in the parliament i think the general secretary was clear about it what i'm going to
27:49comment on is the i read that 47 pages of that caravan article which has come out that is one
27:55the thing is that it says joe wuchit samjo karo that is a message that i think it's quoted in the
28:02caravan uh that's right whatever you feel right you can do yeah that's what that's what rajnath singh
28:08just to tell our viewers that's what rajnath singh told general naravne when naravne rang rang him up
28:14finally the decision whatever you want to do you can do yeah so that left with left with general
28:21naravne the decision as to how to handle that particular situation it can be seen in two ways
28:27the way that has been projected in the in the parliament today that it is a it is the abdication
28:31of responsibility the other way you can see it is that i am giving you the full power you go and
28:36do what you want i'll back you up so these two connotations can be taken i would prefer i would
28:42prefer to take the connotation of you know you do whatever military you need to do and we will
28:48have your back that is the kind of message probably i would read from this so i what i want to
28:57understand from you very clearly is yeah what i want to understand from you in your view should
29:07this issue be debated or not in parliament see that that is a matter of the rules i i i listen to the
29:14entire no no i forget the rules sir okay no i'm now asking you as a defense person forget the
29:19parliament rules do you believe that we know enough about what happened in 2020 that summer in galwan
29:27after what happened in galwan is there anything if this because the memoir is unpublished do you believe
29:33that the defense ministry is being unnecessarily sensitive and bureaucratic should this memoir be
29:38published or not in your view no i don't think so the thing that i think we need to keep in mind is
29:43that there is a statement that has been made by mr jason in the parliament there is a statement which
29:49have been made by mr rajnath singh in the parliament earlier i don't think anything new has come out in
29:53this and so far so much has been written about the galwan incident in the last five to six years
29:59i don't think anything new is coming out here no so so then why should raul gandhi be stopped sir
30:04from speaking then he's only then all the more he should be allowed to speak all the more the book
30:09should be published if there is nothing new the book publishing is left to the people who have to bet
30:15it who have to who have to do the corrections to it i am not again privy to what what was stopping
30:20that book from being published the second thing is in the parliament i heard that the entire 47
30:25minutes of the exchanges so there are certain rule positions in the parliament which has been quoted
30:30the opposition leader was saying something different so there was some decision that was
30:34being given by the speaker i don't think we are contesting that here at this point in time
30:38because the general secretary of the loksaba mentioned that speaker's word is final
30:44uh i'm now going to turn to javed ansari javed ansari the politics of it all rahul gandhi seems to
30:52want to use these opportunities to target the modi government to suggest that is not a 56 in chest
30:59that's what he said when he came out of parliament suggesting that for all this nationalistic bombast
31:04the truth is this government doesn't want to be open and transparent about what happened on the
31:10border with china do you believe that raul gandhi's approach is the right one do you believe that this
31:18kind of adversarial approach is working for him or not working from for him rajdeep take out the
31:28individuals in the question purely speaking objectively everybody has a right each and every member of
31:37parliament in the opposition has a right to haul the government including the prime minister of the day
31:43over the coast so therefore as far as that principle is concerned i'm absolutely clear in my mind i'm
31:50also absolutely clear in my mind that the government overreacted if there is nothing to fear the reason
31:57why the government did it did it is that mr mr modi and this government have been owning up all the other
32:05military adventures that india has undertaken whether it's balakot uri purwama whatever that you know
32:11mr modi said i gave permission that go carry out this air attack even under even of their clouds etc
32:16now this is the first one which hits set his image which seems to cast some kind of doubt that they
32:22were not as decisive as the in their decision making as they would want the nation to believe and we've
32:31seen in the past also this government is very uncomfortable with even an iota of criticism whether it is from
32:38the leader of the opposition or from people sitting on the outside okay uh you want to respond to that
32:45aparajita sarangi that the modi government wants to take credit whenever uh for example it believes it's
32:52carried out a successful military operation and then when it comes to china for all the talk of lal aank
32:59the government tends to be a little bit more cautious therefore if rahul gandhi wants to speak out and claim
33:04that the government was indecisive why not just refute him in parliament in a debate rather than stopping
33:11him from speaking what is the government trying to hide if it has nothing to hide ma'am
33:20many thanks rajee for this debate in fact it was great hearing all the panelists
33:26and things are clear before us see parliament is run by rules and we cannot violate the rules otherwise
33:34there would be mayhem inside lok sabha and the rajya sabha now let me tell you whatever we have been
33:40talking about is rule 349-1 we cannot violate rule 349-1 there has to be reading out of paper newspaper
33:51etc in connection with business in the house and the business in the house we know what it was
33:58her excellency honorable president delivered uh an address to both the houses of parliament on 28th
34:05and then there was motion of thanks going on she had listed out the achievements of this government
34:11under her and the debate had to be centered around that let me tell you very frankly very candidly
34:18and the debate could not have gone to indochina war indopakistan war because there was hardly any
34:24mention of indochina war in her speech so there was a mention of national security there was a mention
34:31that we are a strong nation national security there was no specific mention of china but there was a
34:36mention of strong nation
34:38i agree i agree i agree but there are sensitive matters as i told you i reiterate we may like it
34:47we may not like it but even mps like us mps from the ruling party also we cannot actually talk about
34:54issues which are sensitive for the nation we cannot talk in an often manner about such issues and here was
35:02an issue which had been raised out of an article which was not published and we don't even know the
35:08name of the book which had to see the light of the day no no i have no no ma'am the good news uh the the
35:14officer the ex-officer ma'am i have the new i have the book here the speaker no no i have the book because
35:20the book was put out by penguin penguin was going to publish the book in december 2023 and it backed out
35:26at the last moment and then the book was sent to a defense review committee the name of the book is
35:31four stars of destiny general manoj mukun naravne so the book was to be published in fact if you go
35:38to amazon you can still see the cover of the book there so i mean the fact is the book was going to
35:43be published ma'am and last minute the government did not allow give permission for the book to be
35:48published so my point is
35:52my point is why didn't rahul mention the name of the book as you did now he never mentioned the name of
35:58the book let me tell you it was some cheat that had come to him and he just spoke on the basis of
36:03that cheat that cheat of paper so i think uh we are going by the rule tomorrow also the rule will prevail
36:11and i think all of us should welcome okay you know the point therefore jyoti money is as pdt achari told
36:17me speaker's word is final at the end of the day speaker is like the umpire you have to accept it you may
36:23not like it but you have to accept it now the rahul gandhi seems to believe i will not accept the
36:28speaker's view speaker said you cannot speak about this book yet every time rahul gandhi got up he spoke
36:33about it what does that say does rahul gandhi have no faith in om birla please say it if you believe
36:39rahul gandhi believes om birla is not a neutral umpire say it but he is the speaker like it or not he is the
36:46speaker of the house we have rajdeep ji before coming to your question i would like to address
36:54on what mr narasimhan ji has said with due respect i would like to differ from him it's not that
37:00actually government very clearly said actually you can go ahead uh we will pack you up that was not
37:06there if you allow me for a few seconds i will read from that caravan magazine and do whatever you
37:14do appropriate this was to be purely a military decision modi had been consulted he had been
37:20briefed but he had declined to make the call i had been handed a hot potato it was a moment of profound
37:27isolation so that's what uh mr narawana has clearly said so that means actually it's not the political
37:34leadership especially the prime minister was not not ready to stand by the minister military leadership
37:39whatever uh uh they decide so that's precisely the problem because modiji does not want to take
37:45any decision because he is afraid of china he put the sole sole pardon on the military leadership i
37:51must be fair that is an interpretation that you are you have every right to make my limited point
37:56once the speaker has decided who is the who is going to who is the umpire of the of parliament rahul
38:02grandhi or the speaker i'm coming to that point uh um rajivji because unfortunately the honorable
38:14speaker of the house every time let down us especially the apportion the house belongs to us also today
38:21we i have seen in front of my eyes the honorable prime minister has indicated when rahulji started
38:26speaking he was not uh speaking he was started speaking uh he indicated something to the home minister
38:32then rajna singhji stood and started stopping uh uh rahulji then speaker again allowed rahulji to speak
38:38then the both the both of them both uh defense minister and the home minister pressurized literally
38:44the uh speaker then speaker succumb to the government pressure that's very very unfortunate no you're
38:49making a very serious allegation you are claiming own mirla succumb to pressure that's very very
38:58unfortunate you know that's a very serious allegation you have made this was a live it was a it was a
39:06live it was live telecast the country has seen it how mr omprilaji has let down the parliament forget
39:12about the congress party or our leader of opposition he let down the parliament what is wrong and discuss
39:17the national security it's not sensitive what is sensitive to pjp is the prime minister modi's 56 inch
39:24image image is completely exploded today by rahulji's because rahulji clearly said actually he is not
39:29quoting the book because he about to start speaking before started speaking because just he mentioned
39:35the name of the army chief rajna singhji stood up and stopping rahulji because rajna singhji knows what
39:41is in the book because as you rightly said the book is lying in the defense ministry they are not allowing
39:45your army chief to publish a book because they will get exposed that's what we want to precisely
39:51i've heard even in the parliament or before the media so jyothi maniji i've heard you i've heard all
39:56my speakers i want to give my take at the moment before that if general narsiman is still with us
40:02do you believe a retired army chief's book should be stopped like this just a quick word on that
40:07why not allow it to be published do you believe that an army chief distinguished man of integrity
40:13shouldn't his book be published let the public decide let the readers decide uh you see miss uh
40:20mr ajid that you need to keep in mind henderson brooks report was made in 1962 after the after the
40:27india china war yes it has still not been declassified why has it not been declassified after say 38 plus
40:34263 years so there are certain things which are supposed to be kept confidential and we don't know
40:42why that book is not getting published because we don't know the contents of the book we have not
40:46read it so we can't comment whether that book should be allowed to be published not allowed to be
40:51published that is a matter of an official official decision that needs to be taken okay i'm going to
40:57leave it there uh i want to give my take as i thank my guests the showdown in parliament only reveals the
41:05complete breakdown in relations between the modi government and the opposition congress in particular
41:11since rahul gandhi was quoting from a published article of an unpublished book he should have been
41:16allowed to authenticate it and then make his point the government then also has every right to rebut
41:22rahul gandhi's claims but unfortunately such is the hostility that both sides have for each other
41:27that the cut and thrust of a parliament debate is now tangled in ego wars and mistrust while concerns
41:34over national security are legitimate it doesn't imply that the sino-indian border issue cannot be
41:40discussed in public fora particularly when a retired distinguished army chief is writing about it
41:47more than five years after the galwan clashes the nation is none the wiser on what really happened
41:53on the border in 2020 information control may work in a country like china with an authoritarian
42:01regime in india a democracy like ours we should be treasuring our open society we should not have
42:09anything really to hide that's my take okay let's turn to some breaking news that's coming in at the
42:17moment us ambassador sergio gore says donald trump has spoken to prime minister modi in fact donald trump
42:26has posted on his truth social site india today's year end magazine cover take a look at that cover
42:34which was with pictures of mr modi and donald trump together the u.s ambassador has said on the modi trump
42:42talks stay tuned so that's the big story that's coming in at the moment donald trump narendra modi's cover
42:51i have a copy of that magazine here with me uh which had both of them on the cover as the news makers
42:59of the year in 2025 and donald trump has put this out on his truth social let's go straight across to
43:07our diplomatic affairs editor geeta mohan foreign affairs joins us geeta what are we gathering from
43:13these talks how are we to interpret the fact that donald trump has put this on the cover of him and mr modi
43:20and sergio gore has confirmed that talks have taken place between the leaders well details are still
43:26awaited but this comes even as external affairs minister dr jay shankar is in the united states of
43:31america so we are seeing heightened engagement between dc and new delhi rajdeep uh the fact that
43:37he's put out two posts one uh uh the india today cover uh which is uh newsmakers of the year and
43:45the second one uh the uh the the photo of india gates saying that their uh triumphant arch is going
43:51to be bigger and more beautiful than uh than india's but having said that uh two consecutive uh posts
43:59on india a conversation with prime minister narendra modi dr jayshankar in the united states
44:04of america clearly means that the two sides are looking at engagement will that really translate into
44:10uh some sort of an ease when it comes to tariffs forward movement when it comes to trade talks is
44:16something again we'll have to wait and see uh at a point when we're looking at various geopolitical
44:22shifts and changes it is important that dc engages new delhi and that's what we're looking at right now
44:28okay i'm just going to get a quick question also from raj chengappa of india today since the
44:33u.s president has put india today on his truth social uh uh post uh raj you chose trump and mr modi
44:40uh on your cover and mr trump's rather seems to have liked the idea of sharing the space with mr modi
44:48well this was our newsmaker of the year 2025 which is a tough choice uh and finally we homed in on
44:55both prime minister narendra modi for the kind of reforms and also the uh you know very tough times
45:01that he had to face including uh fighting a war with pakistan and uh weathering the tariff storm
45:07and who was the main tormentor was sir donald trump and he of course not only shook india but shook the
45:11world so we combined the two and uh the uh there is an analysis of how donald trump looks at india and
45:20why did he do what he did and then of course um you know how we should be dealing with him so it's
45:27it's a kind of well-grounded report glad to see it made it uh well i you know being on truth social
45:33means that it'll reach millions of uh uh it'll have millions of hits across the world raj chengappa
45:39thanks very much for joining us there okay let me turn from there to our other big story because the sir
45:45showdown now continues in west bengal chief minister mamtha banerji arrived in the national
45:51capital to meet the chief election commission gyanesh kumar and there were fireworks after the meeting the
45:57west bengal chief minister called the cec arrogant and a liar the cec on its part has claimed through
46:03sources that the chief minister was rude and misbehaved with them remember mamtha banerji has also brought
46:10along with her those voters whom she claims are genuine citizens whose names have been deleted
46:17from the sr list listen in to what mamtha banerji had to say
46:25i'm both in dheli me politics
46:29i'm four times and minister seven times mp
46:34because no chair is permanent for anybody
46:56Why do you have to go? But don't create this precedent. And only why Bengal is being targeted.
47:06Loksantrode election ho ta hai, democracy ka festival.
47:11Ar aapne kya kya? Pehle athanda log ko, athanda log ko baat diya, nikaal diya.
47:18Ar unko ab defendi karne nahi diya.
47:26Ok, let's take a break at this point. When we return, we're going to stay with West Bengal and Kolkata.
47:32Ground report tonight that Kolkata fire that gutted multiple go-downs and more than 20 people have lost their lives.
47:41We'll find out more on the other side. You're watching the news today. News without the noise.
47:48Let's turn to tonight's ground report which comes from Kolkata.
47:52It's been a week after a deadly fire gutted multiple go-downs in Nazirabad in Kolkata.
47:58One of the destroyed units belonged to retail chain Wow Momo, which has confirmed three deaths and announced compensation for victims' families.
48:06While the police have arrested two employees, FIRs have been filed. The political blame game is flying.
48:13The incident exposes safety lapses, raising urgent questions once again of enforcement of fire norms in Kolkata and across several of our cities.
48:24It's tonight's ground report.
48:29A week after a deadly fire gutted multiple go-downs in Nazirabad area on the eastern outskirts of Kolkata, 27 people are still missing.
48:3927-year-old Pankaj Haldar is one of them. Haldar's family is still waiting for answers.
48:49The sole breadwinner for the family, Haldar leaves behind his wife Moshimi and a three-year-old daughter.
48:56Moshimi records the frantic phone call made by Haldar seeking help in the early hours on January 26th.
49:06The family says they rushed to the go-down only to find a place up in flames.
49:11They found Haldar's charred bike at the location, but there was no trace of him.
49:16The family says, hey, this is the one who is in the same place.
49:37One of the go-downs gutted in the fire belongs to Kolkata-based retail food chain Wow Momo.
49:57The company has confirmed the death of three employees and announced a compensation of 10
50:03lakh rupees and lifetime monthly salary to the victim's families.
50:08The police last week arrested two employees of Wow Momo, Manoranjan Seth and Raja Chakravarti.
50:15Meanwhile, politics escalated over the incident.
50:19The police have filed FIRs against Pushpanjali decorators and Wow Momo.
50:40Sources say the fire started at the adjacent go-down and spread to Wow Momo unit.
51:01The fire in Kolkata exposes how safety norms are short circuited at factories.
51:06It is a wake-up call for the administration to strictly enforce fire safety rules.
51:13With Indrajit Kundu in Kolkata Bureau Report, India Today.
51:21From Kolkata, I want to turn to tonight's Get Real India story and this comes from Kotwar in Uttarakhand.
51:27A state which is witnessing several instances of Kashmiris and Kashmiri Muslims in particular being targeted.
51:35Now the latest incident, 10 scenes in this town after Bajrang Dal workers targeted a school uniform shop over its name.
51:45Demanding that Baba be removed from the name.
51:48Remember, this is a shop run by a local Muslim.
51:51Interestingly, some of the other locals including a gym trainer Deepak Kumar intervened and tried to stop the Bajrang Dal workers.
52:00Unfortunately, the police has gone ahead and actually filed FIRs even against Deepak.
52:08Heavy security has been deployed now to prevent further unrest.
52:12What began as a local dispute is now threatening years of communal harmony in this town.
52:19I leave you with this story with a reminder that this country's greatest strength, I repeat, is its religious diversity.
52:26If we don't protect communal harmony in this country, the idea of India will always remain in danger.
52:33Take a look at what's happened in Uttarakhand and think about it tonight.
52:38Namaskar.
52:40Tawji, this Baba's name is removed to the government.
52:43There is no name!
52:44Who is coming?
52:45Who is coming?
52:46The people who are supporting all the people according to all, will be able to work in this way.
52:51The Hinduism of India will not grant this permission from the Hinduism and Bajrang Dal.
52:55The Hinduism of India will not be able to sit on Hinduism.
52:57Oh my god!
52:58Don't put a look at it!
52:59Don't put a look at it!
53:00Don't put something!
53:01Don't put a look at it!
53:02I don't want a look at it!
53:04Unsavory scenes in Kota Duar in Uttarakhand.
53:09On January 26th, a group of Bajrang Dal workers entered a school uniform shop
53:14and intimidated the 70-year-old shopkeeper Vakil Ahmed.
53:18They demanded the owner drop Baba from the shop's name, claiming it signified a Hindu deity.
53:24Deepak Kumar, who runs a gym in the area, and his friend came to the shopkeeper's aid
53:37and confronted the right-wing activists.
53:54They were named by the Satsang.
53:57They were called for 3-4 hours.
53:59They were called for the Satsang.
54:02They were called for the Baba's name.
54:04People come to take the name of the Baba's name.
54:06Some people come to the Baba's name.
54:07You go to the Deepak and then go to the Kribi's name.
54:11The Kribi's name was so much for the Satsang.
54:15The first time I came to the Patsang,
54:18I had the name of the Baba Ji.
54:21The one who told me about Baba Ji.
54:23The day the spat happened, when asked to identify himself, Deepak had responded defiantly.
54:53Incidentally, the board outside the shop mentions the name of the owner, but that did not satisfy Bajrang Dal workers.
55:23After the incident on Republic Day, Bajrang Dal held protests outside Deepak's gym.
55:33The outfit defended its workers' actions.
55:53The police filed multiple affairs based on complaints.
56:23There is heavy police presence in the area to ensure peace.
56:36But years of communal harmony has been disturbed by one incident of hate.
56:42With Ankit Sharma, Bureau Report, India Today.
56:53And was he could not have been saved.
56:56And after that, police is claiming that soon they will take the action and the culprits will be nabbed.
57:03This is Ankit Sharma with Vikas Verma for India Today, Fort Dwar.
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