00:00The running back props in this game, Joe.
00:02The focus is going to be on Kenneth Walker III and also Ramondre Stevenson.
00:06Should we have eyes on anybody else, Joe, on the ground?
00:09Well, I got burned with Travion Henderson against Denver.
00:13Why didn't he get the ball, though?
00:14Answer me.
00:14No, I don't know.
00:15And I looked at all the news, and they didn't know.
00:18But once the snow hit the ground, they decided to use the heavier back.
00:22I get that.
00:24But Denver was having success with R.J. Harvey, which is a similar back to Travion Henderson.
00:28Harvey goes 5'9", about $1.85, $1.90.
00:32Travion Henderson played in Columbus at Ohio State.
00:36It's not like he's not used to cold weather.
00:38I don't know if he was 100% healthy.
00:41It didn't look like he got hurt on his third carry.
00:43And, again, I thought he would have a bigger part of the offense.
00:46I expect him to have a bigger part of this offense in Super Bowl Sunday a week from today.
00:53And we'll see.
00:54Again, he could also be utilizing the receiving game as well.
00:57I will say Helani surprised me on how many looks that he did get in that championship game.
01:04I don't know if I could back him, though, in this.
01:07George Helani.
01:08Yeah, you don't want to get too cute sometimes because you get angry.
01:10Like, I can't believe I took him when I should have just went, let's just say, with Kenneth Walker.
01:13And take a look at Kenneth Walker's numbers here.
01:15If you're looking and saying, like, which way do I want to put my money?
01:18He's 75 and a half, which he's going to be the bell cow.
01:20And you probably anticipate between 15 to 20 touches out of the backfield.
01:24If I'm looking last week, Joe, Walker got 19 carries, 62 yards, and a touchdown.
01:28So, well, that's pretty good.
01:29That's way under the numbers that we expected him to actually get.
01:32But he will be the lead dog.
01:3319 carries for him last week, Joe.
01:35George Helani, three carries.
01:37Rasheed Shahid won.
01:38And then Sam Darnold had three carries for nine yards.
01:40Talk to me about Kenneth Walker III in this game.
01:42Two weeks of rest.
01:43He's going to be their bell cow.
01:44He is.
01:45And if you watch the game against the L.A. Rams, what do you have, 62 yards?
01:50About 50 of them came in the first half.
01:52I mean, it was amazing how they shut down and made second-half adjustments.
01:56Do we expect New England to play that way the way L.A. did in the second half?
02:02It's possible.
02:03They're very good against the run.
02:05But, I mean, Kenneth Walker, when you give him a seam, he's got great vision,
02:09great cutback ability.
02:11He can catch the football as well.
02:13Well, 75-and-a-half would lead me to believe that Kubiak goes into this game,
02:17Donnie, attacking on the ground more than through the air.
02:20Yeah.
02:20I just don't see it.
02:22I mean, again, I'd be – it wouldn't shock me if Walker got to 75.
02:27Yeah.
02:29But without Charbonnet in that lineup, I don't know if they give him 25 touches.
02:33Now, here's the interesting part about it, too,
02:35because I don't think we're going to have too much of a struggle in this game.
02:38Like, oh, Helani got 17 carries.
02:39That was a surprise.
02:40He's not going to do that.
02:41It's going to be Kenneth Walker.
02:41Here's the question I want to ask you, though.
02:43Ramondre Stevenson and Travion Henderson.
02:45Thunder, Lightning, two back from your backfield.
02:47We've always thought to believe that's more of like a timeshare at this point.
02:50Last week you saw a ton of carries, and if we get exact numbers, Joe, 25 for 71,
02:55which is only 2.8 yards per carry for Stevenson, but it's 25 carries.
02:58Then you see Travion Henderson, three carries for five yards.
03:01You look at the splits now on the numbers posted, Stevenson at about 49-and-a-half.
03:06Travion Henderson is only 17-and-a-half yards.
03:08So then he must be banged up.
03:10Something is wrong with Travion Henderson.
03:13Again, it's going to suck me in because if he does play, that's one run for him.
03:19He had five carries for over 50-yard touchdowns this year,
03:24and he could catch the football out of the backfield.
03:26Again, every report I read doesn't show a significant injury.
03:31So if he's not injured and we're believing the injury reports, why can't he get to seven?
03:38You're telling me against this defense that hasn't allowed a 100-yard rusher in 28 straight games,
03:45you're going to go with, and I keep saying this, old man Ramondre Stevenson is good.
03:50He's not, it's not Earl Campbell or Walter Payton out there.
03:54I mean, come on.
03:55It's not Barry Sanders.
03:56Yeah.
03:56I mean, he's pedestrian.
03:59I don't know.
04:00I still like Henderson.
04:01But also, when we're looking at the numbers, too, it is like,
04:04sometimes you don't just want to go with like a one-week one-off, Joe.
04:07On the 28th of December, 19 carries.
04:09On the 4th of January, 13 carries.
04:11The 11th of January, 9 carries.
04:13And also against Houston, 12 carries.
04:14So you came into the playoffs not saying like, well, he's a young back.
04:17We don't trust him.
04:18No, you gave him 13.
04:19Excuse me.
04:19You gave him 9 carries and 12 carries.
04:21Then you went to 3 carries.
04:22And it wasn't like, well, hey, we were up or we were down the entire way.
04:26That was a 7-0, 7-7, 10-7 game the entire way through,
04:30which he didn't get those carries.
04:31I'm more led to believe that you need this guy.
04:34You're going to have to feed him a little bit early to see where his mind is at
04:36at this point.
04:36So if I told you, Joe, Travion Henderson is getting four carries in this game,
04:42I would still take the 17.5 to the over.
04:44I would.
04:44What is his attempts total?
04:463.5?
04:49It's got to be 3.5 if it's 17.
04:52His rushing attempts, Joe, 5.5 plus 112.
04:54It doesn't even correlate to what he's saying.
04:56That's what I'm saying.
04:56Because you're basically saying he's going to get five carries about 17 yards.
04:59What is he going, three yards per carry?
05:00Yeah, I would take the yards, Donnie.
05:02I would take the yards over the carries.
05:04I would take a shot, too, 25-30.
05:06You're going, three yards, down the way.
05:06I would take the yards.
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