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00:00Spread lines on a Friday. It's been a long time since we said we don't have any football this
00:05weekend on Saturday and Sunday. Why? You take the week off, you get the hype going there for
00:08Super Bowl 60, and next week we get Seattle and New England. But it's never too early to look at
00:13some of these lines because technically they are moving and maybe inching along. The side in the
00:19Super Bowl, still the favorite, the Seattle Seahawks, which it always will be. Their favorite
00:22at minus four and a half right now, even with the information coming out on Will Drake May
00:26shoulder be 100%, Mike Vrabel, head coach of the Patriots, he seems to think it will. But the
00:30total has been on the move. 46 and a half, and now looks like the stronghold across the board at
00:35just about every outlet, Joe, is 45 and a half. And I actually disagree with that a bit. I think
00:40we're going to get points in the Super Bowl between these two teams. But this game will not be played
00:45this Sunday. It's next Sunday. Lines will continue to inch, Joe. But right now, four and a half and
00:5045 and a half. What's that spread line for Super Bowl Sunday? Yeah. And again, Donnie, where
00:56keep hearing the same thing from the risk rooms here, is that they're not anticipating from a
01:02spread perspective a whole lot of crazy movement, even though the limits are raised and guys can
01:09come in with six-figure bets, seven-figure bets. I mean, it's something else when you have a guy
01:15like Mattress Max shows up at Caesars with $2 million to put down, Donnie, and it doesn't affect
01:21the line whatsoever. So I think what you see is what you get. But to your point, that total
01:28continues to be the one place that they think we're going to get the most action and maybe the
01:35most influential bets when it comes to the total. A lot of money sitting on the sidelines right now,
01:40Donnie, on that total, waiting to see how low it might go. But I think we're going to see a ton of
01:46over money and that line will be moving as we get closer to next Sunday. Props as well. That public
01:53avalanche is coming next Thursday and next Friday, right into the weekend as people start to settle
01:57in for Super Bowl Sunday. Oh, the Philadelphia Eagles have found their man. Offensive coordinator
02:03for what feels like weeks after weeks of an exhausting, let alone puzzling interview process
02:09that had Jeffrey Lurie in the ownership saying at first, we're going to take a big swing here.
02:13It's going to be a guy that's definitely has, you know, a hands-on experience, maybe a head coach
02:16here, but definitely has called plays. Only to settle on Sean Mannion, who's never called plays,
02:20only been a coach in the NFL for two seasons. But maybe you find that lightning in a bottle where
02:25you say this young kid has the talent it takes to call these plays and get some of these superstar
02:30players open. The Eagles are hiring Sean Mannion as a new offensive coordinator per Adam Schefter.
02:35The Eagles got their man. Hallelujah.
02:37Yeah, listen, and I think it's a great hire. I mean, he is just two years removed from actually
02:43playing quarterback in the NFL. But when you look at, he was the quarterback's coach and immediately
02:49got in with LaFleur there in Green Bay. He was the quarterback's coach there, Donnie.
02:55And when you think about the transformation of what those two quarterbacks there with Jordan Love
03:00and more importantly, what we saw out of Malik Willis, he's got to be doing something right,
03:05because I didn't see that kind of production from Malik Willis happening at all. But, you
03:10know, he learned under a pretty good guy there in LaFleur, seems to know exactly what he's
03:15doing with QB. So maybe it's a good thing for Jalen Hurts and company here to get a kid
03:20like this in there who everything he's touched so far has turned out pretty well.
03:25And also, you know, being a quarterback always helps. You're in one of those West Coast systems
03:28there, obviously in Green Bay. And also, I do think at times like the play calling aspect
03:33here is a little bit overrated. He's been a play caller for 10 years. Honestly, if you
03:36look at Brian Dable, the only two good years that he actually had was with Josh Young, one
03:39of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. You're only as good as the team around you at this
03:42point here, and we'll see if he's able to sink or swim. But the expectations are he will
03:46call the plays on Sundays for the Philadelphia Eagles. They finally got their guy. How about
03:50Kirk Cousins? What guy is he going to be to what team out here? Expected to be released,
03:55maybe a bridge quarterback. Hey, why not bring him up to Green, or excuse me, why not bring
03:59him up to the Pittsburgh Steelers? Aaron Rodgers and Kirk Cousins on the same team. Get
04:02the old heads together, man. Let's go. Yeah, no. The Jets are calling, I am sure. Bring
04:09Kirk Cousins back in. But listen, I mean, are we 100% convinced that Atlanta can trust, you
04:16know, the health of Michael Penix Jr.? I mean, sure, they can get rid of him, get out from
04:21under that. But, you know, listen, he is going to be a very wanted man in an NFL that is short
04:28on QBs. I think there's a number of teams that would love nothing more than to get
04:33Kirk Cousins in there. And by the way, they were a better team down the stretch with him
04:38under center than they were with Penix. By the way, also, taking a look at some other
04:42options throughout the NFL, we're talking about the quarterback situations here. Maybe
04:46an all-time blunder, it could be, for the Minnesota Vikings to let go of Sam Darnold in favor of
04:52J.J. McCarthy. Here's the general manager talking about that decision.
04:55The money that was spent to save to not franchise Sam, just how do you weigh those things and
05:00how the results turned out? You know, it's, you spend a lot of those nights, obviously,
05:06you know, you're up in these decisions and they're uncertain and you're trying to make
05:10sure that you don't lock yourselves into what you did and thinking that it's always right.
05:14And so there's those nights that you wake up and start at the ceiling and ask yourself,
05:18but I always go back to the process and what we thought at the time. It's easier to kind of
05:22go and be revisionist and results-based, but going to really think through what we had
05:27at the time. I still understand why we did what we did. The results maybe didn't play
05:34out the way we did. We wanted them to, but, you know, ultimately, I think at the end of
05:41the day that we could have executed better in certain places. And I don't want to say
05:46individually in terms of a particular player, but just executed better, knowing what the room
05:50was play style-wise, experience-wise, and just kind of really put together a better combination
05:55of people, collective in that group. That's kind of the thing I've probably focused on the
05:59most. And then ultimately understanding how we play and win football games. Again, you know,
06:04I'm not going to get into the specific how we group it, but we've won a high clip of games
06:08over here since we've been here when we've gotten a certain level of play, a certain style
06:14of explosive plays. These are things we've talked about, but a lot of times points aren't
06:18made until something is removed. And then you kind of see the complex system and how when
06:22you move that one variable, how that one variable affects other things. And really seeing
06:26how when we weren't that explosive, how teams played us and how they kind of got to box a
06:32different fight. And when they got to box a different fight, how that impacted our defense
06:35and their ability to create turnovers and win games the way we thought we could win.
06:38So that was really just a great learning experience that tied into the quarterback discussion.
06:42And those are things we'll carry with us going forward.
06:44Look, that was a long-winded answer for saying we drafted JJ McCarthy and he stinks. We apologize.
06:49And maybe we should have kept Sam Darnold around. That's what I got out of that.
06:53Yeah. I mean, he started to go down that road, right? And I'm staring at the ceiling.
06:58Yeah. Well, you certainly are. And boy, oh boy, you're going to, you're going to be staring at
07:03the ceiling watching Sam Darnold possibly win a world championship here while you're still trying
07:09to figure out how did we bring in all of these terrible offensive linemen? Yeah. Good, good job,
07:14Minnesota. Good job. Let's continue the NFL talk next right here for a short break on a yeah,
07:20football Friday. How about that? The man who would get a thousand yards every single season at a wide
07:25receiver. That's Tampa Bay Bucs wide receiver, Mike Evans. And you might think to yourself like,
07:29man, Evans coming back to Tampa, that offense should be able to flourish. They got some new
07:32offensive firepower and away you go with Baker Mayfield, but rumors around the league, people
07:38are expecting or people around the NFL expect Mike Evans to move on from the Bucs this off season.
07:43They have it at 50, 50. I can't imagine a world where Tampa Bay and Mike Evans aren't synonymous,
07:50Joe. I can't imagine. I can't.
07:51Not why, but the problem is we've had this conversation now for last couple of seasons
07:57with him. Right. But I mean, I don't know what people are thinking because, uh, I mean,
08:03it wouldn't be Tampa Bay without Mike Evans. And every time we've seen him on the field with Baker
08:09Mayfield versus off, there are two, they are two totally different teams when Mike Evans plays versus
08:16when he doesn't. So, uh, he still has that kind of impact on the offense. He's not going to cost an
08:22arm and a leg. So I don't know what they're doing. Just sign them, lock them up, be done with it and
08:27move on here with me out on this next one. This is what gets me upset because we are handicappers.
08:33We like to watch the NFL games and we like to understand that we're getting an honest product.
08:37And these are the ones that I always get a kick out of. Josh Allen just had a procedure
08:41on the fifth metatarsal avulsion in his foot, eight to 10 weeks recovery time. So Josh Allen
08:47taking the podium talking about it. It's like, yeah, I was playing with a broken right bone in
08:50my foot. Was he on the practice report with that? Was he on the injury report? Did we ever know that
08:54Josh Allen had a broken foot and was playing with it, Joe? Would have loved to have that information
08:59ahead of time. Would have been great, Donnie, but we know better than this. Uh, we, we saw this,
09:06uh, with of course, Lamar Jackson throughout the season where we had no idea, Donnie,
09:11what was, is he going? Is he not going? What's wrong with him? What do you mean? He's got a
09:14back problem. Now he's got to show like, what are we doing here? We see this all the time. Doesn't
09:20shock me that we didn't know about it, but we kind of knew he had a foot problem, right? We kind of
09:25knew that towards the end of the season, but I, you know, isn't there a rule against that? Don't
09:30you have to reveal that a dude's got a broken bone in his, in his right foot? Like, don't you have
09:34to, apparently not, I guess. Oops. Billions of dollars in fines. That's what happened here. By the way,
09:40Josh Allen said, he's not going to give up on Keon Coleman. Your owner gave up on him. Your
09:44previous head coach gave up on him. Pretty sure the general manager gave up on him. And when nobody
09:49wants to take confirmation on who made the pick, your organization gave up on him. Congratulations,
09:53Josh Allen. You're not giving up on Keon Coleman. I mean, I, I, I just don't get, I mean, you're
10:00acting as if it's like he was once a, uh, an all world superstar, all American Super Bowl MVP that
10:08has just hit a rough path. Like, no, no, the kid was immature at Florida state. He was a wild card,
10:14which is why he dropped to begin with. And he continues to be that he hasn't grown up yet. So,
10:20you know, he's running out of time though. I'll tell you that this is his final chance.
10:24Something tells me, I don't know that he is going to grow up in time in order to continue a career in
10:30the NFL. Yeah. We don't care about Keon Coleman and Josh Allen. We want to know what Josh Allen has
10:35to say about the firing of his previous coach, Sean McDermott. Here you go.
10:39What's more emotional that you get when you heard the news of Sean being fired?
10:43Yeah. In the wake of all this.
10:45Very, very emotional. Um, and that was a time where, again, I'm sitting in my house,
10:50I wake up, I do a call from Mr. Pergola telling me that it's, uh, telling me what had,
10:55had transpired. Um, and I called coach McDermott immediately and I've got nothing but love and
11:00respect for coach McDermott. Um, the last, you know, eight seasons, eight years of my life,
11:05he's, he's been through ups and downs of me as, as a player, um, as a person, you know,
11:10he's seen me grow up in a sense. Um, and to know that again, we, we've had a lot of success here
11:17and, um, you know, I, I'd be lying to you if I, I'm sitting here saying that, um, you know,
11:24I feel like I had part in it because if we made, if I make one more play that game in Denver,
11:29we're probably not having this press conference right now. We're probably not making a change.
11:34And, um, and I want to say, it's probably, we're probably getting ready to play another game.
11:39And that's, that's the hard part to take in from my perspective. Um, but that's reality. It is what
11:48it is now. And, um, I am very, again, very fortunate and thankful for coach McDermott and everything that
11:55he's done and the trajectory that he set here for our players. Um, Oh yeah. Everybody beating around
12:02the bush over there. Good old Sean. Maybe it wasn't Sean McDermott's fault after all, Joe.
12:06No, it absolutely wasn't. It's laughable, uh, that it was. And it's also laughable to think that
12:12another one of these situations where, all right, so that was your first interview.
12:17Nobody got a second interview. And it feels like as time went on, all right, we just got to keep it
12:24in the house because we got to keep Joe. All they said in that press conference was how they were.
12:28It was Josh Allen is Josh Allen. Our job here is to make sure that Josh Allen is Josh. It was clear
12:34that Josh Allen had some sort of influence in, uh, in going with, uh, Joe Brady, but the whole thing,
12:41you're just too close to it at this point. It's too emotional. He spent more time talking about
12:46McDermott than he did Brady. There you go. Moving on. Buffalo bills, new stadium, getting calls from
12:52the ownership group. And how about this? I always say this. You never remove yourself from a job opening
12:57unless, you know, you're not getting that job. Davis Webb might be a talented coach and maybe
13:00on that quick track to being a head coach in the NFL, but it's not going to be with the Raiders.
13:05Why? That's because that's going to be Clint Kubiak's job with the Raiders going back home.
13:10Davis Webb. Yeah, there you go. We're drawing that name. I don't blame you. Uh, and quite honestly,
13:16it's the Raiders. So why in the world would you want that job? Anyway, chances are, you'd only have it
13:21for a year, year and a half. Cause that's how, that's how they roll, uh, the Raiders. Yeah,
13:27it's, uh, Kubiak, but I, you know, I don't know that I'm sold. Kubiak gets, wants the job either.
13:33So I think this is going to be very interesting because I think Seattle is going to throw him
13:37an awful lot of money there to stay as the coordinator. How about the new stadiums coming
13:43alive here in the NFL, Joe, over the next decade or so, the Buffalo bills, the Tennessee Titans,
13:48the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Cleveland Browns, Washington commanders, Denver, but Denver,
13:53by the way, it seems like these teams just built a stadium and now they're getting a brand new one
13:58here. Chiefs and also the Chicago bears. Like you tell me, like I watched like the Chicago bears
14:02games. They messed up by making the stadium too small. Yes, they did. It still looks brand new at
14:06this point. Like, and then you take a look at saying, okay, Denver, Denver felt like it just built
14:11their new stadium here and they're already getting another one. And the best part about it is
14:15almost fully funded in most parts here by the public. And if it's not, maybe the Walton family
14:20out there in Denver is like, we got enough money. We'll just take everything into account here and
14:24handle this ourselves. Yeah, it's, uh, it's gonna, that's a lot of new stadiums here over the next
14:31five to seven years here, Donnie. So, all right. Uh, I don't know what was wrong with the older ones.
14:37I mean, places like Jacksonville can absolutely use a new stadium there because it felt like they kind
14:43of threw that thing together anyway, when they created the franchise. But yeah, I mean, some of
14:48them are due, but, uh, not having arrowhead anymore and moving it is, is very, it's going to be very
14:53interesting. Or have it like the Chicago bears moving like Gary, Indiana. It feels like to say,
14:59we're going to hold this city hostage and make it drive 50 miles away at this point. But you're
15:02right about Jacksonville. Jacksonville was had a stadium that was like already in place in
15:06Jacksonville and they sort of just renovated it over the years. They need a new one. Cleveland already
15:10knocked down the mistake by the lake and built a brand new one. Now, like, oh, we need a brand new
15:14stadium on top of that. Philadelphia is a little bit older here. The original stadium here for the
15:18Tennessee tights, but not that old Buffalo also deserve the new stadium. I mean, that thing was
15:23around like a high school field. So you say, oh, Buffalo is getting a new stadium. Yeah. That makes
15:26some sense. Washington already had a new stadium. It's a terrible stadium where it is now, but now they
15:31want the dome effect going to go back to the old side of RFK. And then you're right about Kansas city,
15:35which if you read anything, those fans are so upset with this because you go from one of the
15:40ultimate home field advantages. And now you're going to take that away from the fans and just
15:45be like, okay, not only now is it going to be much of a home field advantage anymore, it's going to be
15:48ultra corporate and your season ticket prices are going to quadruple over the years. Joe,
15:53have you ever had season tickets in the NFL to any NFL team? Have you ever had them?
15:57Uh, no, I had access to them, Donnie, uh, the giants and the jets. And, uh, yeah, it didn't take long
16:04before I was like, yeah, no, you, you can keep them. I'm good to go. Thanks. Like,
16:08you remember the switch over, like, and even from a jets and giants perspective,
16:11giant stadium, like family generations bought those season tickets here and filled up that
16:15stadium. And like, we're going to build a brand new stadium. And by the way, your tickets that
16:19you had in your family were sat on the 20 yard line, 10 rows up. We need $150,000 per seat from
16:25you just for the right to buy your new tickets, which are going to go up tenfold at this point.
16:29And then he said, no, thanks. We moved to the upper deck. We're not going to buy them at all.
16:32The personal seat license. Imagine that the right to buy the seat that you had. And oh yeah,
16:39it was an investment. You can sell in the future. Unbelievable, man. We'll be right back.
16:45We're going to week off the Superbowl 60. Here's sort of the calm before the storm,
16:48before the two planes fly into Santa Clara and away you go. You got Monday night, meet the teams here.
16:55Then they get sequestered away. Nobody wants to practice at Santa Clara itself because you might
17:00have some soft tissue injuries before you even get to the stadium. That's Sunday afternoon.
17:04Donnie right side, Joe Ranieri, Tom Vecchio. He's joining us on a football Friday. Tommy,
17:08how are we feeling, man? I'm ready for the game to start. That's where I'm at at this point.
17:14You know, it is an exciting buildup to the game and there's so much going on, but I'm ready for
17:20the game to start. You know, we are approaching a really interesting point in terms of the markets,
17:26because we've seen some interesting markets move in terms of the props. And it's one of the ones
17:29that I've already been on has moved at least four yards, but I'm ready to go.
17:34Yeah. It should be a fun thing to break down. And again, we're going to go over it all the time
17:38next week, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday. I mean, heck, Joe, you know, as well as
17:41I do, Tom, we've been looking at, Ooh, is the four and a half going to move off four and a half?
17:44It's going to go to five, going to go to three and a half at this point. And also the totals
17:47at 46 and a half now dropped to 45 and a half, but let's start here. Quarterback situations on both sides.
17:53We are always Tom going to overanalyze everything that comes up and what's going to come up.
17:58Sam Darnall oblique. Is he going to be completely healthy? He seemed all right the past two weeks.
18:02Drake may seemingly getting dinged up a bit in that game against the Denver Broncos. He's on
18:06the practice reports as being limited, but Mike Frabel is telling us, don't you worry,
18:11he's going to be just fine. Tom, the quarterbacks, any worries here with the buildup for maybe some
18:15lingering issues at this point? No. And Sam Darnall I think is a good example. Like, yeah,
18:20he was on the injury report. He's dealing with the oblique, but ultimately he's fine. You know,
18:25seeing that Drake may was, you know, dealing with a shoulder injury yesterday. Saw some people,
18:29you know, talking about it on, on social media. Like it's literally a non-factor for me. Like,
18:33that's just what it comes down to. If he was, if he's going to be limited Thursday or Friday of
18:36next week, then talk to me. But over a week out, him being limited in practice doesn't bother me at
18:41all. I think their props are where they should be. I think we're looking at Drake may potentially going
18:45over his passing yards prop Sam Darnall. I'm not so sure about, but I'm not trusting the running game from
18:50the patch really. And I think if Drake may falls below 222, the patches don't win that game. He
18:55has to go over. Yeah. You'll agree with the, the under move here early on. Cause it feels like
19:04we're being set up to come back in. It feels like a lot of the pros are just waiting to see
19:08how low does this number go? Because I can absolutely see a scenario where points are going
19:14in this game. Yeah. And I, and I would say like a 28 20 final, is it like, that's a good amount of
19:21scoring, but it's not, that's an exaggerated amount of scoring. So, you know, to your point,
19:25like I am almost waiting that I think the, the over would be the play at a certain point. Again,
19:29we can get some modest amount of scoring, you know, 27, 21, and we're over that total. It may not be
19:35flying over, but I would lean more points than not, you know, what we've seen from the offense is,
19:40is good. And, you know, we always talk about like offenses starting off super scripted. Well,
19:44the defenses also don't want to make mistakes that may, that may actually lead them to giving
19:48up a few more points just because they don't want to be blitzing a little bit more. They're
19:51not going to bring that extra corner. And then therefore there are some guys underneath that
19:54are open and it leads to more scoring chances. And also taking a look at the New England Patriots,
20:00because I do like their offense. Well, they just don't score anymore in the playoffs. Have you seen
20:03number one, the defenses that they played number two, the conditions that they played those defenses in
20:07isn't really conducive to scoring San Francisco. We're probably going to get a much better
20:11clean slate on the playing field for both of these quarterbacks and the matchups here,
20:14Tom, if we flip it over to the wide receivers, obviously, we know Jackson Smith and Jake,
20:18but he basically doubles up everybody else in the props market. I'm looking at FanDuel right now,
20:22Tom, 93 and a half, but boy, you are getting discounts across the board in the receiver
20:28slash tight end field. Have you sort of focused on a player, Tom, that you might be looking for,
20:33or maybe even one of those guys that a lot of people are looking at?
20:36Yeah, I actually tweeted this out a couple of days ago. George Helani over seven and a half
20:41receiving yards. The new second string tight end, excuse me, tight end, second string running back
20:47for the Seahawks because Zach Charbonnet is out. Over seven and a half, I saw his number get up to
20:51as high as 11 and a half over at DK. And this is a player that, you know, has been on the roster
20:56for a couple of years. They liked him a little bit in pass protection. That's why that was the
21:00Charbonnet role because they didn't love Ken Walker in the pass protection role. So in third downs,
21:04he's going to be there. If we look at what the Pats have done in the postseason to running backs
21:08and receiving him, they're giving up yards. They give up yards to Kamani Vidal. They give up yards
21:13to RJ Harvey. They are a little bit susceptible in that area. So if it turns to a passing game,
21:18Sam Darn is going to look for those quick checkdowns and George Helani seven and a half.
21:21You give me one or two and a half, two catches. I think he gets there.
21:27I think it's going to be, who do you give the edge in winning special teams here, Tom? Because it feels
21:32like the weather report doesn't look like it's going to be a problem. It feels like we're going
21:39to have a 60 yard field goal attempt. You know, the longest field goal feels like it's going to be in
21:44play. It doesn't feel like, you know, it feels like now we're in a situation with both these teams
21:50where they'll go instead of going for it on four, they'll try the 60 yard field goal here. It feels
21:55like that is absolutely one of the props we got to concentrate on.
21:59I absolutely agree with that. And it has to be Jason Myers. He has been downright awesome,
22:03not just this year, but for many years. And when it comes down to it,
22:06more regardless, the kicker for the past, he's a rookie, right? So again, he's been solid this year.
22:11He's been solid in the playoffs for the most part. I know he missed one in the most recent game,
22:15but he's a rookie when it's all said and done. Like he's never been in a bigger moment. Myers has at
22:19least done it. Myers has taken game winning kicks as the clock has expired. He's been in the playoffs.
22:23He's been extremely accurate over the past few years. So give me the edge to Seattle and where
22:28that number is for longest field goal. I know the more that you say it, the more I'm going to be
22:32interested in it. I always like to take a look at some of those player props here where you get
22:36those game specials thing. Can anybody break a record Tom from a Super Bowl past any player with
22:41506 passing yards, any player to run for 216 and a half, any player here to run for over 205,
22:48excuse me, receiving yards at 216 and then rushing yards at 205. Can we get anything spectacular in
22:54this game or are we just looking for a close hard fall game in this one? You know, frankly,
22:59just a quick glance at some of these specials, both teams to record an interception. I don't mind
23:04that. It's only plus 200. It's not something like crazy long shot, but you know, Sam Darnold,
23:09we know the issues that he's had. Granted, he's been significantly better as of late,
23:12but really Drake may has been, has been struggling as of late every game this postseason under 60%
23:18and Donnie alluded to before the conditions and defenses haven't been great. We know that,
23:23but if we look at, if we can get those guys through in the first half, I think that's live
23:27both teams to record an interception at plus 200, not that bad. All right. So we got about a week to
23:33go here, Tom settling in line sits at four and a half for the Seattle Seahawks. If I give you one bet
23:38on a side or a total in this game, which way are you going for Super Bowl 60 early?
23:42If I get the 45 and a half now, I think it goes up and over. I think it's really that simple.
23:47We're going to get points. It's not going to be this game that we had past Rams a couple of years
23:50ago. It's not going to be 12, nine final. And this game is also not going to end 35 to 30. It's
23:55going to be somewhere between it'll be close, but it'll be a good game. Sam Darnold or Drake may
24:00one of those quarterbacks will be a first time Super Bowl champion. We'll find out next,
24:04next Sunday. Next time, we'll be right back. Coaching Carousel, two stops left, Joe, I believe.
24:10I mean, it seems like every single day we have a new spot to open, but Arizona and also Los Angeles,
24:16but Robert Sala will probably get a good job at either one of those institutions here. He's with
24:20Tennessee and he's also talking here about calling the plays in Tennessee. You know, I didn't call
24:27plays in New York and I just kind of gave it all to the coordinators, even though we were still
24:34part of the game planning and all that. Um, you know, I, I joke with, with Borgo, um,
24:40on game day, when I didn't call plays, I felt like I was just a timeout and red flag guy,
24:43you know, I was just kind of just why I became, I had the, the greatest seat in the house as a fan,
24:48you know? So, um, you know, calling plays for me, it's not necessarily about control,
24:53but it's about connecting with the players. You know, when you are a play caller and you are calling
24:57plays, you feel the strain that you're putting on them with each call. Uh, you're feeling the
25:01connection, you're feeling what each one is, uh, is going through. And again, like, like I said,
25:06I can feel the weight of the play call on, on individual players in those moments. And, uh,
25:11to be able to call plays and maintain that connection, maintain that, uh, uh, feel for
25:15what the players are going through, I think is very, very important for my seat. And, uh, uh,
25:19it's just one of the many things that'll, that'll change throughout my tenure.
25:24He's learning Joe. The reason I say that here is if you're going to have your second opportunity,
25:29you're going down swinging because sometimes you can say to yourself, that was my defense.
25:33And we continuously got torched. I'll live with that. But when he's right, when you're the head
25:38coach, you're in the game plans. Don't get me wrong. There's a big, heavy influence of Robert
25:41Saul that was in New York, but it's not you calling the plays. He understands the magnitude of if this
25:46doesn't go right, I'll never get a head coaching job again. And you know why it's not going to go
25:50right. Certainly not going to be because my defense isn't out there, given it's all.
25:53Donnie. I mean, it's, it's great to hear that from him, right? Because it's, you know,
25:59if you don't evolve, uh, and learn from past mistakes here, then, you know, we don't know.
26:06It ain't going to, it ain't going to last very long here. You might as well just stay a coordinator,
26:10but I love it. I love he understands the whole CEO concept delegate, which is why I am very,
26:17very interested to see with some of these young first time head coaches who think they're going
26:24to keep the play calling duties. Uh, you know, Aaron Glenn in New York. And of course now Joe,
26:30I'm going to keep calling a play. Like you have no idea what other, uh, duties you have now as a head
26:37coach where all of a sudden, Donnie got to keep my head into the defensive room. Then I got to call
26:43the plays in the offensive. It's going to get very interesting for some teams with new coaches
26:49this season. It is. And there you go. Robert Sala going to call the plays on the defense.
26:53You'll see how that works out. Young quarterback here. Maybe they can grow as a franchise,
26:56but certainly learn from his first mistake. You're not going to blame me for this defense
26:59here. Let me take control of the range from day number one and see how that goes. Josh Allen,
27:03been hearing from him a lot during this show, but the biggest news of all for him is I don't care
27:08about a Superbowl. I don't care about the Buffalo bills. Being a dad is the biggest job I have now.
27:13What is your hot season? You talk about becoming a dad, the recovery, all that stuff. I know that's
27:19hard to plan as a fellow dad, but like, can you try and map something out? I mean, to the best of
27:25our abilities, but, um, I've known this from well in advance. I've got a lot of, I've got siblings
27:30that have kids. I've got a lot of friends that have kids and, um, I don't know if you can plan too
27:35far in advance. So I'm, I'm very much looking forward to that with my wife of becoming a dad. It's,
27:39um, you know, something that I, I will take with great pride. Um, and we're going to have to figure
27:46things out on the go, just like anything else. But this is, uh, this is the most important thing
27:51all over being my life is being a dad. And I know I, I, I love being a football player and I love being
27:56a quarterback for the Buffalo bills, but I'm looking forward to this one. There you go. Buffalo bills
28:02fans are angry. They can never get over the hump. My man's like, I'm already minted. Give me my money.
28:06I'm a dad. Now leave me alone. Yeah. All right. And listen, I mean, it's, you know, you're watching,
28:12uh, you're watching Josh Allen. We've seen him from, you know, who is this guy at draft day from
28:19Wyoming? Like what to now, all of a sudden, you know, being an MVP and, you know, having to, uh,
28:25to evolve here now into a player with a new head coach in a very changing landscape. And is the window
28:32closing? Do you think he has the window closing on his opportunities? I guess we'll find out rather
28:37quickly here next year. How about this? Like the NFL Superbowl is coming up next weekend on next
28:43Sunday. We're all going to bet it. Some people plunk down 25 bucks, a hundred bucks, a couple
28:46hundred bucks, get away with it here. Four and a half point spread is on the game. If you're not
28:51paying any points or any juice on that run, my standard minus one 10, let's call it. How about Devin
28:55Booker out here in these streets? He put a million dollars down on the Seattle Seahawks with the
29:00fanatic sports book here, but you know, when you say like, man, you know what, you know,
29:04I got to pay minus one 25. So I got to lay $125 to win a hundred. All right. I'm going to pay 125
29:09to buy it down. Devin Booker buying the line from four and a half to three and a half. Joe
29:14going to cost him a couple hundred thousand dollars. Is that what I'm reading right here?
29:19A $1 million wager pays out $1.8 million. And that's not even the craziest part about this.
29:25His fan cash is $6,000. If you've ever been on fanatics, like, Hey, let me put down a couple
29:31hundred bucks. Like, Hey, we just gave you a dollar in fan cash. Congratulations.
29:37That is just crazy here. Yeah. Well, listen, kudos to him. Uh, you know, he's obviously very
29:45confident in that, but I mean a million dollar bet, Donnie. And, and I don't think he's moving
29:51the line very much. Do you, you think that bet moved the lineup? No, it didn't. You know why it
29:57didn't? Cause the book's like, I'll take your million dollars. Cause there's nothing sharp about
30:02you, Devin Booker. That's why, by the way, honestly. And I, I understand that the point
30:07of getting from four and a half to three and a half, isn't that like monumental. And again,
30:11it's a bit different. It's okay, man. I paid an extra $10 to get the point. You're paying a couple
30:15hundred thousand dollars in juice to get that number there. But when you're in the NBA and you lose
30:21a million on the game, it's like, it's no big deal. I have millions more to go at this point.
30:25The life of an NBA superstar, man, it's fantastic here. Front office sports with a tweet yesterday.
30:30The NFL will not allow prediction markets to advertise during the Superbowl. Why? Because
30:36they're not getting enough money from those prediction marks here. You're going to see fans
30:39will probably draft Kings and all that good stuff out here, but prohibited list of categories.
30:44You can't have a predictive market. I always get a kick out of this.
30:47Yeah. Isn't it great? Show up with the money. And you know, at that
30:51point, right? DK and whoever, they were all, they're like, listen, we're paying you an awful
30:56lot of money. Let's hit awful lot of money here. And we are not, we don't want to share
31:02the spotlight. The NFL is like, no, we hear you. We hear you. But ultimately the NFL will
31:07win because they'll just pit them all against one another. And the one with the most money
31:11is going to win.
31:12Well, the head coach previously for Michigan state, the guy's name is slipping my mind.
31:18Who was the coach of Michigan state that brought over Kenneth Walker, the third, who was the
31:23coach? Anybody in the background get Mel Tucker. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was slipping my mind.
31:29Mel Tucker, Mel Tucker should give 85% of his paycheck to Kenneth Walker because he's got
31:33to make a hundred million dollar contract and the guy can't coach his way out of a paper
31:37bag, but how good Kenneth Walker was in that one season transferring from Wake Forest over
31:41to Michigan state. As I bring that up, Walker going to be a free agent this off season.
31:47Wouldn't it be nice to go out, Joe? 22 carries, buck 10 on the ground, two touchdowns, ring
31:53on my finger here. Man's set to be a free agent. He's a big part of that offense.
31:57Yeah. He's going to look good in a Jets uniform, Donnie. Cause I keep hearing that that, uh, that
32:02could be his landing spot when it's all said, uh, and done here because Seattle is not going
32:08to, uh, open up the checkbook for a running back, not with Charmini, uh, back there as well.
32:13Uh, so yeah, it's, he, this will be his last hurrah, it feels like, uh, as a running back
32:20for Seattle. So enjoy it while you can, but cause he'll be playing someplace else next year.
32:25By the way, the NFL always has money to burn. Well, I, Adam Schefter tweet, the NFL officially
32:30appointed influential storyteller, Dar Mann, no idea who that is, as his first ever chief
32:36kindness officer and creator of the week for Superbowl LX. Is he, is he reading books to
32:43the players? Like, does he put them to sleep at night? It's like, Hey, you know, we're going
32:46to tuck in, uh, Drake may tonight with a nice bedtime story. What's my guy doing as a chief
32:51kindness officer. We would never have that in Philadelphia. I would, uh, how do we get
32:56that? Um, apparently very famous too, right? Dar Mann. Yeah. Have you ever, I mean, how do
33:04you get that job? I would love to be able to get that job. I'll try to do a little background
33:08on the guy to see what like it's about and what he does, but I'm assuming he is probably
33:12like a, it's like miss Rachel. Like the girl I see on the, uh, you know, all over here that
33:16gives out the public services for the kids and kids like that stuff. Is that what it is?
33:20I don't know. I'm darn man. I don't know the books, the NFL players. Maybe that's just
33:24the way it is. Don't have to look any further into it. Go and Donnie. The hot topics continue
33:28to roll. We'll be right back.
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