00:00All right, we all saw the tweet from Adam Schefter after Broncos passing game court.
00:05Nader and quarterback coach Davis Webb interviewed this week for the Raiders and Bills head coach.
00:10He received interview requests for offensive coordinator jobs with the Eagles.
00:15Boo, the Giants and the Ravens.
00:17So let's talk D-Webb and other potential Giants.
00:20Offense coordinator candidates with Nick Filato, writer for Big Blue View.
00:25Nick, what's going on?
00:27Thank you so much, Brandon, for having me back on the show.
00:30Let's talk some New York Giants offensive coordinator.
00:32Todd Munkin taking the Cleveland job.
00:34Bold of you.
00:35We thought you were coming home to New York.
00:37I guess not.
00:38Yeah, and it's funny because...
00:40When the news broke that he took the Browns head coaching job, you put out the tweet...
00:45Hey, Davis Webb, you're still around.
00:47That's like one of those 2 a.m.
00:50Hey, you're still up type text right there.
00:52So we know all about his ties to the Giants.
00:55And he's got a lot of respect around the league, but he's only coached for two years and he's...
01:00Never called plays.
01:01So why Davis Webb?
01:03Why should John Harbaugh...
01:05Trust him with the Giants offense and Jackson Darts development.
01:09Look for...
01:10Fortune favors the Brave, and I think this would be a bold move for John Harbaugh to go...
01:15Out there and get somebody who is just a offensive pass games coordinator and a quarterback.
01:20Coach, under Sean Payton.
01:21But the thing is, Joe Lombardi was just fired.
01:23He was the offensive coordinator for...
01:25For the Denver Broncos.
01:26What is the role of the offensive coordinator for the Denver Broncos if you're not...
01:30Calling plays.
01:30Davis Webb, you'll be able to call plays under John Harbaugh.
01:33Now, from Harbaugh's perspective...
01:35To answer your question, it's a risk.
01:37This is a 31-year-old, but it is a 31...
01:40I remember hearing when this guy was 27, 28, that he was a players coach when he was with...
01:45Brian Dable and Joe Shane up in Buffalo, and then he came back to the New York Giants in...
01:502022, and all you heard about around the locker room, I know you're around the team, Brandon, was Davis Webb is...
01:55Essentially a players coach behind Daniel Jones, assisting Daniel Jones with the transition...
02:00Into Brian Dable's offense since he was familiar with it, and since then, he's gone on to Denver...
02:05Quarterbacks coach, 2023-2024, and Denver Broncos offensive game...
02:10Offensive pass game coordinator, you're going to have this opportunity to call plays here for Davis.
02:15I think it is risky.
02:16First time offensive coordinator, you think Davis...
02:20...web can handle that pressure, though.
02:23Look, I can't sit here and...
02:25I can't say with any certainty that he can, and again, that will all be discerned through the interview process.
02:30But I'm willing to take that risk if John Harbaugh sits down with him, if Joe Shane sits down with Davis Webb, and Davis...
02:35...has a well-thought-out, articulate plan on how he wants to run this...
02:40...offense, and if that coincides with the vision of John Harbaugh, I would say yes, I think you need to...
02:45...strongly consider that.
02:46We've seen so many teams in the past, and this is a lot for head coaching, but they rolled the...
02:50...dice on coordinators who were young.
02:52Obviously, the best example is Sean McVay with the...
02:55...Los Angeles Rams, that was for the head coaching position.
02:56This is for the offensive coordinator position.
02:59It's a little bit lesser.
03:00Obviously, but it's a situation that I'm willing to look into these young guys.
03:05The sport is evolving right now, and if you have guys coming out of the McVay tree, because I also want to bring up...
03:10...Nate Shellhouse, the 35-year-old past games coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams as well.
03:15Those types of coaches, if you get them in a room and you can really just see how...
03:20...they view the sport of football, and if it meshes with your ideology as a coach, John Harbaugh, you...
03:25...have to explore that.
03:26I mean, there are veteran coaches you can explore as well, but I do...
03:30...you look at someone like Davis Webb, and that really does interest me just over the things that I've heard...
03:33...because there's no proof of concept of it because...
03:35...he's never called plays at the NFL level, but the things that I've heard over the years about this guy's brilliance...
03:40...you could hire him, and if he is as brilliant as a lot of people say, then you just found a gem and the Giants can hit the ground.
03:45...and running with this young, offensive, talented personnel that they have.
03:48And yeah, without a doubt, the league is getting younger.
03:50Not just from the player standpoint, but you're seeing it, like you said, from the coaching standpoint as well.
03:55You've got my boy, my former UMass quarterback, Liam Cohen, taking over the Jacksonville Jaguars.
04:00And turning them around, my man's not even 40 yet.
04:02I don't even think I saw some gray in his hair.
04:05...just yet, and he was able to go down there and have some success.
04:08So there's always that debate.
04:10Do you get someone with the experience that's been around for a long time, or do you get that...
04:15young, hot, upcoming coordinator or pass game coordinator?
04:20...that you want to come in with some fresh ideas.
04:23So outside of...
04:25...davis Webb, let's say he doesn't get it.
04:28If not Webb, then who...
04:30Who are some of the candidates or names that you're hearing that you think have a real shot at...
04:35...get the job and would be a right fit?
04:37We'll stay young here for a second.
04:39And I brought up his name...
04:40...a little bit before Nathan Shellhouse.
04:41He's the pass game coordinator for the Los Angeles Rams project.
04:45After that, he was the passing game specialist and the offensive assistant in 2024, and he was with Matt Campbell.
04:50...at Iowa State and Matt Campbell really changed that entire...
04:53...that entire...
04:55...program around at Iowa State made them a contender, and he was there dating all the way back to the...
05:00...2018 season.
05:01He's only 35 years old, so he's a really young man, and he comes from...
05:05...the Sean McBeatry, so that's an enticing person to...
05:10...to bring into the room to see if he can handle that responsibility.
05:14Again, I...
05:15...I have no inside knowledge on that, but the fact that he is linked to Sean McVay, he's going to get a lot of calls, and that's why you see...
05:20...his name float out there quite a bit.
05:21And then you have Charlie Weiss Jr.
05:23He's another...
05:23...another player...
05:24...another...
05:25...a person that we should really look at because he has a strong relationship with Jackson Dart.
05:29He was his...
05:30...offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach, of course, under Lane Kiffin, and he did just accept the job...
05:35...with LSU at Lane Kiffin, but maybe he would want to jump to the NFL and relink...
05:40...up with Jackson Dart, so I think that has to be another option.
05:45I think, you know, as I continue to watch these offenses, and again, Shellhouse is one of those guys...
05:50...is you're coming from that McVay tree where Sean McVay calls the...
05:55...like he is the guy.
05:56It's the same thing as Jackson...
05:58...Jackson with Davis Webb.
06:00...with Sean Payton, so you're learning, you're getting the tool that is to...
06:05...to tutor under, you know, a great offensive mind like the way...
06:10...that they're doing, and that's why they're getting these interviews, but...
06:15...with all the pressure that John Harbaugh has on him to come in...
06:20...and turn this thing around right away.
06:23I'm going to go with the 40-plus...
06:25...club and represent some of the older guys, so I'm crazy...
06:30...saying this, who are some of the older candidates out there that you like?
06:34Yeah, I mean...
06:35...I'm not 100% certain.
06:36I don't want to say I like them per se.
06:38I would really want to do a deeper dive.
06:40...into what they have done in recent years, but Greg Roman is somebody...
06:44...53 years old.
06:45He's a New Jersey native who has an extensive background with John Harbaugh...
06:48...was with John Harbaugh from...
06:50...2017 to 2022, but was the offensive coordinator from 2019 to 20...
06:55...2019 was that breakout year for Lamar Jackson where the offense...
07:00...for the Baltimore Ravens was one of the most potent and explosive...
07:03...in the National Football League, but it...
07:05...started to wane a little bit into the 2022 season and Greg Roman was...
07:09...eventually...
07:10...weck go.
07:11Then there's Cliff Kingsbury.
07:12He was in the division the last two years, Brandon Wright.
07:14It was...
07:15...
07:15...excellent in 2024.
07:16They went to the NFC Championship game.
07:18They were third best in rushing, fifth best...
07:20...in scoring, fifth best in red zone efficiency, and Jaden Daniels...
07:23...took the league by storm, but Jaden...
07:25...was injured for the majority of this year with multiple injuries...
07:28...and Marcus Mariotti stepped in and it was...
07:30...it wasn't the worst offense in the league, but they took a big step back...
07:33...and to my understanding...
07:35...Cliff Kingsbury wasn't fired by Dan Quinn, but I think they both...
07:38...opted to explore other options.
07:40I think...
07:40...that's how it was phrased.
07:41He could be an option for the New York Giants if...
07:44...if John Harbaugh...
07:45...has any type of relationship.
07:47And then there's the other one.
07:48And this one is one with a giant...
07:50...might...
07:51...might explore.
07:52And it's probably one reason why they retained him on the staff...
07:54...and that's Tim Kelly.
07:55The Giants tight ends coach from last year...
07:57...who took over offensive coordinator from Mike Kafka...
07:59...when Mike Kafka relieved...
08:00...Brian D'Abel.
08:01And I think if all else fails...
08:02...Tim Kelly has called plays in two different spots...
08:04...I didn't think he did a bad job last year with Jackson Dart...
08:07...has a relationship with Jackson Dart...
08:09...obviously John Harbaugh wanted to keep him around...
08:11...keep Charlie Bowling around...
08:12...who was a defensive coordinator.
08:14So...
08:14...so there's a mutual respect there.
08:15There's a willingness to work with him.
08:17So I would not be shocked if some of these...
08:19...other options if John Harbaugh does not want them...
08:21...and he trusts Tim Kelly...
08:22...which we've already seen.
08:23There's already a little...
08:24...but there's a little bit of evidence for that...
08:26...that Tim Kelly might get the job.
08:27Yeah, the way all these...
08:29...candidates, man.
08:30It's going to be interesting.
08:31But none of them are going to eat or thrive...
08:33...unless they got wet...
08:34...weapons on the perimeter.
08:35And I'm anxious to see what the Giants do with that fifth...
08:39...overall pick and then free agency...
08:41...when it comes to building around Jackson Dart.
08:43But first...
08:44...it's got to start with bringing in O.C.
08:46So I'm anxious to see who he brings in.
08:48Nick, appreciate you all.
08:49...stopping on with me, my man.
08:51Absolutely, Brandon.
08:52Thank you for having me.
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