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00:00I think that the Warriors are either going to get Giannis this week or they're going to stand past.
00:05I actually think that that completely makes sense.
00:08I don't know, like...
00:10She goes elsewhere, as I theorized earlier, which is probably not that likely, but...
00:15Giannis gets dealt Wednesday too, fill in the blank.
00:17At that point, maybe you pivot and try and do some...
00:20Yeah, maybe, but again, what deal is being offered?
00:24And I thought...
00:25I thought of this, and can I run this by you?
00:27Run it.
00:29With what the...
00:30Let's just focus on this year, and I'd love to know this...
00:35From a lot of people too.
00:35What do you want out of this year?
00:39Jimmy Butler's...
00:40He's not coming back.
00:41I don't even know to what level they were a contender when he was playing.
00:45But what do you now want out of this year?
00:50Just to be in the mix.
00:51Okay.
00:52And, you know, the caller earlier said, you know, I don't want to be in the box.
00:55Which is 7 through 10, you want to be above the box.
00:571 through 6.
00:58If you don't get Giannis, you're probably...
01:00If you get Giannis, and it doesn't cost you more than what we've said...
01:05And injured Jimmy, and Kaminga, and a couple of your other younger guys...
01:09You could probably get above the...
01:10And be above the line, and be a 6 or a 5, and at that...
01:15Go ahead and take a swing at it.
01:17I mean, if you're the 5 seed, you play the...
01:20You beat the 4, you beat the 4, you play the 1, and you're probably in some trouble.
01:25I mean, even that sounds very optimistic, even what you're saying right there.
01:29Well, I mean...
01:30Last year, that's the way it went.
01:31You were the 7.
01:32Jimmy Butler was on the team.
01:33Right, but you'd have Giannis, is the point.
01:35Oh, if you'd have Giannis, got it.
01:36Yes, even if you don't have Giannis, then you're in the box.
01:40Win a play-in game, and then go out there and see if you can just steal one.
01:43Yep.
01:44Last year, you stole...
01:45Houston was the right opponent at the right time.
01:48It wasn't easy, and you...
01:50Still, what, you needed 7 games?
01:51Yeah.
01:52You needed Butter to go off in Game 7 to do it.
01:54Right.
01:55Buttered.
01:55So...
01:56I saved the day.
01:56My name is Buddy.
01:57Yes.
01:58I'm Batman.
01:59I'm Batman.
01:59I saved the day.
02:00I saved the day.
02:00I think that...
02:01I mean, that to me would be kind of like the Niners this year.
02:04You and I both...
02:05Wow, if you...
02:06I mean, just being 12 and 5, my satisfaction is at a...
02:107, it can't go down.
02:11If the Warriors make it out of the play-in, I'm in the same boat.
02:14Okay.
02:15And who do you want to see doing...
02:20Sure, Steph Curry's going to be there.
02:23Right.
02:23But who do you want to...
02:25kind of take that shot for the Warriors?
02:28And here's what I'm getting at.
02:30I was thinking about this last night.
02:31I don't know why this just popped into my head, but...
02:34Do you remember when...
02:35Remember when Grandy went to Twitter?
02:38And he's like, remember...
02:40This is right after Jimmy got hurt.
02:41The next game.
02:43Because remember...
02:44Last time...
02:45Jonathan Kaminga played.
02:46Steve put him in right at the start of the second quarter.
02:50Because the first quarter, Twitter was filled with people who were like,
02:53Steve's played 11 people and nothing.
02:55None of them have the initials JK.
02:57None of them.
02:59Um...
03:00And Grandy's like, well, eh, eh, start in the second quarter.
03:03And then, poof.
03:04Start...
03:05Start of the second quarter.
03:05Grandy, you were in the building, right?
03:07I was.
03:08Okay.
03:09What happened?
03:10As he entered the game.
03:11What did he...
03:11It was a very, very, very loud cheer from...
03:15Basically, every fan in the arena.
03:17I started thinking about this.
03:18I don't even know if we've said it this way.
03:20And this is wild.
03:23Jonathan Kaminga right now...
03:25Who, in my opinion, is the second most popular warrior.
03:30I mean, it's hard to say you're wrong.
03:32Pat Spencer would be up there, but he's a little bit...
03:35Fringe, you know.
03:36Tell me...
03:37He's beloved.
03:37Who's...
03:38Like, Jimmy's out.
03:39Right.
03:40And Draymond's Q rating is as low as I've ever seen it since he's been on the Warriors.
03:45Buddy is up there, but he doesn't play a lot.
03:47Well, neither does Jonathan.
03:49Moses...
03:50And TJD are just kind of...
03:52I'm not going to say they're boring, but they're just...
03:55Nice guys, you know.
03:55Nice guys.
03:57D'Anthony Melton, I've never really heard him speak other than the...
04:00The Rejoin.
04:02Quentin and Guy, they're kind of fun, but...
04:05Again, as you start checking through the list, he might be number two.
04:08Think about this.
04:09I actually am...
04:10I'm very, very confident that amongst this fan base, he is the second most popular War...
04:15It depends if you count also the votes of people who absolutely can't stand the way...
04:20Maybe, and you'd have to bounce all of that together, I guess, but...
04:25If the guy is going to get what's damn near a standing ovation for getting sent into the...
04:30And I understand all of the things that were affected by that, circumstantially...
04:35Situationally, emotionally, all of those, I get it, right?
04:38We're here, we're talking about this every...
04:40But I think he's the second most popular Warrior, and if you think about it through...
04:45That lens, if you're not going to get Giannis this week, well, who do you want to see...
04:50Who do you want to play the last 30 games?
04:51You want to see Kaminga.
04:52Jonathan Kaminga.
04:53And I'm actually in that camp...
04:55Like, if you do not get Giannis this week, do not make it...
05:00It's ideal, and if you do, it better be a really good one, and I don't think...
05:04Everything we've been talking about...
05:05We asked Ramona, hey, this Mike Dunleavy, hey, for there to be a demand, there needs to be demand.
05:10Is there demand?
05:10She's like, there's no demand.
05:12So you're not going to get a great deal this week.
05:15So keep the guy.
05:16Keep the guy.
05:18Figure it out.
05:19Have a...
05:20Temporary conversation.
05:22Let him know you have a huge role going forward.
05:25Just go play basketball.
05:27You don't have to worry about anything.
05:29We're not...
05:30We're not trying to win a ring.
05:31It's funny.
05:33These next 30-some-odd games...
05:35This is actually what Jonathan has been waiting for.
05:40Which is a team that's not uber-focused on winning a title for the first time in his career.
05:45Pretty much.
05:46I mean, yeah, you're out there and you know that even if you make...
05:50Take it out of the play-in and you're in the playoffs, you'll be an underdog and it's going to be tough to...
05:55To do what Stine was mentioning earlier, you need to win 16 playoff games to be the title...
06:00Last year they won five because they were talking about, oh, the Warriors went on a run last year.
06:05Last year, is that really a run?
06:07I know the regular season, it was a run, which...
06:10Still didn't get you out of the play-in because you didn't beat the Clippers and so you had a play-in game, right, against...
06:15Memphis, but then in the playoffs you didn't really go on a run, you kind of went on a jog.
06:20It was like a...
06:21They went yogging.
06:22I mean, they had a little sweat going.
06:24Yeah, a little jog.
06:25They didn't go on a run, like, you know, a run where you win...
06:30No, no.
06:31You know, you win 12 and you get in the finals, that's a run.
06:35A little jog.
06:36You know, you laced them up and you went around the block a couple times.
06:39The valet guy went...
06:40You got your car.
06:40That's pretty funny.
06:41Yeah, he wanted to make sure you didn't have to wait too long.
06:43Yeah.
06:44It's cold out.
06:45So, you know, considering you don't get Giannis, yeah, it's going to be a lot of Jonathan Kaminga and...
06:50I'm sure that the Kaminga camp are going to want that so they can build up that value.
06:55In case the Warriors don't...
06:57Sure, sure, sure.
06:57The Warriors don't pick up this option or...
07:00They do or they sign and trade.
07:01Whatever happens, Kaminga's value can...
07:04They can go...
07:05Really high if he plays great for 30 games.
07:07No doubt.
07:08No doubt.
07:08No doubt.
07:09And then you see...
07:10You see where you're at.
07:10Like, you see what happens.
07:12But I know that a lot of people have been like,
07:14God...
07:15You got to let this guy go.
07:16You got to set him free.
07:18This has been wrong.
07:19All of that.
07:20I want you to reach into the other side of your fandom.
07:24If you don't get...
07:25To get you honest this week,
07:26who do you want to see play the rest of the year?
07:28It's a first name that would come...
07:30Into my mind.
07:30I don't know if that would surprise people coming from me.
07:33But that, like...
07:34Absolutely.
07:35That's who I want to see be the number two scorer.
07:38If you don't...
07:40I want to get you honest this week.
07:4225 to 29 minutes a night.
07:44John...
07:45Jonathan Kaminga, let's see it.
07:47Let's see it.
07:47Let's just see it.
07:49Let's see it.
07:50I'm with you for once.
07:50I'm with you.
07:51I mean, let's see it.
07:52Go out there and let's see how it looks when...
07:55You know, you're playing with a lot of freedom
07:57because you don't have Jimmy.
07:58So the Jimmy and...
08:00Kaminga can't play the other thing.
08:02That's gone.
08:03So...
08:03And we know he plays really well.
08:05With Draymond and Steph.
08:06So...
08:07Go out there and maybe even start him.
08:09Start him.
08:10Play him.
08:10Oh, and I wanted to throw this in.
08:12It is possible that he plays before the deadline.
08:15Kaminga, okay.
08:16Yep.
08:16It's possible.
08:17Yeah, he'll be re-evaluated in the coming days.
08:20Right, in the coming days.
08:21And that's one for Steve today who joins us at 5 o'clock.
08:23Today was one of the...
08:25As is tomorrow.
08:26But now it's here.
08:27And maybe he'll...
08:27The evening is still coming.
08:29As was yesterday.
08:29Yes.
08:30Well, he'll have an answer as to, you know, when the re-evaluation will be.
08:35He might.
08:35He might tell you that that's not his department.
08:37Right, but the word was...
08:39I haven't given that...
08:40It would be in the coming days.
08:42And so, what is...
08:43What's happening in the...
08:45In the coming days?
08:47Like, is it a day that starts with an ass?
08:50I have no idea.
08:50Yeah, I mean, he might say that.
08:53You'd have to talk to Rick.
08:55He might say that.
08:56We're going to find out at 5 o'clock when he joins us.
08:58Yeah, of course we'll ask.
08:59Oh, yeah, thanks.
09:00Thanks a lot.
09:00No, I mean, that's our job.
09:02All right, Gary in Concord.
09:04Thank you for calling.
09:05Gary, what are you doing?
09:08Doing some paperwork.
09:09Listening to you.
09:10You guys go back and forth.
09:11Oh, I appreciate it, man.
09:12Yeah, so I'm going to piggyback...
09:15A little bit before I go to my main topic on what the last guy said, and I definitely believe the organization...
09:20We'll take a huge hit in revenue when stuff leaves.
09:23I mean, a huge hit.
09:25I think I just saw that he's going to be...
09:27I think I saw that he's, like, number one in Jersey.
09:30I've done a lot of sales recently, and then, you know, every time somebody...
09:33Every time you go...
09:35Any other city in the United States, he is a huge draw.
09:38So, while it may not be...
09:40You know, tied to Chase Center, he's a huge draw for the organization.
09:45And if they get Giannis, yeah, then that'll change that.
09:48But if they don't, forget it.
09:49I know...
09:50What it's like being an A's fan having no superstars and how that does to, you know, the fans.
09:55As for J.K., he's not the most popular, or second most popular.
09:59He's the most...
09:59He's the second...
10:00He's the most talked about.
10:01I wouldn't call him the second most popular.
10:02Well, then who is?
10:03Well, then who is?
10:05Well, that's debatable.
10:06I don't know.
10:07I mean, it's definitely not J.K. in my book, because I...
10:10He can't play with his team, and I'm tired of his agent and all that other crap with it.
10:14I mean, that's...
10:14Yeah.
10:15And we even brought up the idea that, yes, there are those on the other side of the coin, but Gary, I...
10:20I'd ask you right now, other than Steph Curry being introed in the starting lineup...
10:25Give me one other player that can bring Chase Center to its feet simply because he's entered...
10:30He's entering the game.
10:31No, I agreed.
10:32I completely agree.
10:34It's just...
10:34I just...
10:35You said popular, and I don't think...
10:36I don't call him popular, so...
10:39As for...
10:40For the Giannis thing, my concern is that injury history, and I know...
10:45We haven't talked about it.
10:45I want Celebrini to make sure that calf is fine, that right knee is fine.
10:50Because if you look at historically, he has had a lot of injuries, and not lost...
10:55Lost games to it, but he's a lot...
10:57He has an injury history with his knees...
11:00His ankle, and now that calf, and that has to be made sure that it's not going to be an
11:05Ongoing thing, and you know, the other thing is that he won't be here for about a month...
11:10Which means you don't have any of the depth that we now have if we're giving up...
11:15All these young guys that you had mentioned, you know, earlier...
11:18You know, who's going to back up Steph for...
11:20Four weeks before Giannis gets here.
11:21You know, you've gotten rid of your guards and your...
11:25Your two guards, you don't have much depth at that point, and then Draymond is a...
11:30You can't even...
11:31Right.
11:32You know, when you introduce that lineup, you know, having Draymond in there was like...
11:35No, I'm sorry.
11:36He can't make a shot no matter what at this point.
11:38Gary, I know the Warriors will never...
11:40I'll say this publicly, I'd answer what you're saying, but like, you're not wrong.
11:45But, my man, you've got to give up on this year.
11:48And here's what I mean by that.
11:50I don't mean stop watching games.
11:51I don't mean stop caring.
11:53But the concept of...
11:55You can't trade for Giannis because what would happen over the next four weeks of our...
12:00For me, it's just not a thing.
12:03What would happen over the next four weeks?
12:04I don't know.
12:05You might lose three or four more games that you would have won.
12:08And the net result of that is what?
12:10Jimmy Butler got hurt.
12:11We've got to sit with the fact that there is a...
12:15Full recalibration that needs to take place.
12:18Can Giannis get here and...
12:20Turn this thing this year into a contender.
12:22That feels very unlikely.
12:24I won't...
12:25Rule it out.
12:25But it feels very unlikely.
12:27This is more about next year.
12:30And then all of the other years, too, that are on the way.
12:33Yeah, this year is...
12:35Even if you get Giannis, it's probably going to be similar to what it's going to be if you
12:38don't get Giannis and...
12:40You know, if you wind up as the seventh or eighth or ninth or even tenth seed.
12:44I don't know if you...
12:45You can fall below ten unless you fully, fully go into tank mode.
12:48You're in the play-in and...
12:50The play-in is kind of a mixed bag for this franchise historically.
12:54You've won some.
12:55You've lost some.
12:55And even if you make it out of that and you're the seven or the eight, those teams...
13:00You'll have to play in the first round a lot different than facing Houston last year.
13:04I have some.
13:05I have something to tell you.
13:05Please.
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13:20Steve Kerr on this radio program to talk out all of the...
13:25These things and give us...
13:26Yeah, he's going to give us his prediction on what happens at the trade deadline.
13:29Love it, yeah.
13:30Yeah.
13:31No, he won't.
13:31He cannot be that guy.
13:33He cannot be that guy.
13:35That's actually true.
13:35That's against the rules.
13:37Tampering.
13:39Adam in Oakland.
13:40Hi, Adam.
13:40What you doing, man?
13:43Hey, what's up, guys?
13:44Just driving home.
13:45I'm going from work.
13:45Okay.
13:46Get there safe.
13:47Yeah.
13:49I...
13:50I just wanted to comment on this Kaminga thing and, you know, in terms of whether or
13:54not we trade him before...
13:55Before the trade deadline or kind of wait and sit on him.
13:57And to me, waiting and sitting on him is like throwing...
14:00It's almost like throwing, you know, kind of bad money after a bad bet.
14:03Like, if you've ever invested in something...
14:05It's crypto.
14:06It's a stock.
14:07Maybe you played poker.
14:08You started out with a good hand and after the...
14:10Flop, you got squat.
14:11Like, that's kind of what we have with Kaminga.
14:13And I don't see that value coming...
14:15Coming back, especially because of the way that he's being played from...
14:18From Kerr.
14:19Like, Kerr...
14:20Doesn't want to play him.
14:21If Jimmy was here, he'd still be on the bench.
14:23And even with Jimmy not here...
14:25He's coming, you know, three or fourth off the bench.
14:27And if we take what Kerr and...
14:30You know, the saying kind of by...
14:31You know, by what he's saying, if we take it at his face value...
14:35He doesn't fit the system.
14:36Maybe he has the right attitude.
14:37I think we see the right attitude publicly.
14:40But he's not going to get any value back.
14:42I think...
14:43I don't want to sell for scraps, but...
14:45I think he's doing more harm than good as a distraction on the team as he is right now.
14:50I'd rather see them just trade him, get back, whatever, and move on.
14:53Yeah.
14:54You know, that...
14:55That's my take on it, you know?
14:55Yeah, I get it, Adam.
14:57Thanks very much for calling.
14:58I don't think he's a distraction.
15:00I don't think he's a distraction right now at all, and I don't think...
15:05That it takes away from whatever the Warriors are doing, because honestly, what are the Warriors doing?
15:10Do you know what I mean?
15:11Like, right now, I would argue...
15:15I could even make this case, I think, rather easily.
15:17If what you're after is...
15:20As always, championship or bust, because Steph Curry's here.
15:25Then you keep Jonathan right now and you play him, because that is the best path for...
15:30For you to build Jonathan up, to turn him into something who can...
15:35Help Steph Curry in this window, mainly next year.
15:40That's what we're talking about.
15:40Yeah, but even this year, right?
15:42The whole get him out for scraps thing, what does that do for...
15:45For anyone?
15:45Nothing.
15:46And they won't do that, and it's been pretty clear that there are...
15:50There have been scraps offers out there, and I don't know for sure that Sacramento's made...
15:55Multiple scrappy offers, but we've heard names thrown out, and packages thrown out, and the Warriors...
16:00Haven't bitten, they didn't do it in the offseason, in a sign-and-trade, they haven't done it yet so far...
16:05They don't want to take pennies on the dollar, and I don't think it's throwing good money...
16:10Money After Bad just yet, if you wind up at the end of the year and...
16:15You can't do anything with Kaminga, and so you don't pick up his option, and he walks as a free agent?
16:20That would be bad, but I don't think it's going to come to that.
16:22I don't think it'll come to that.
16:23You pick up his option, and you can do...
16:25The scraps thing then, if you want.
16:26Exactly.
16:27Like, I just...
16:27I don't know what the win is.
16:30This idea of, like, get him out of here, I'm sick of this.
16:35Honestly, that's way more us than them.
16:37Yeah.
16:37Like, you might be sick of it, but...
16:40I think Jonathan is sick of it, but I don't think that the rest of his time here would look like...
16:45What it has looked like so far.
16:47The whole, like, Steve Kerr doesn't think he fits the system...
16:50Well, the system has changed.
16:52Jimmy Butler's not here anymore.
16:53The goal has changed.
16:55They won't say it, but it has.
16:57So, like, I firmly believe...
17:00That if and when Jonathan gets healthy, and if and when he's...
17:05He's still on the roster, he's going to get a ton of minutes.
17:07Don't forget, they took...
17:10He's a little dip of the toe in the water.
17:12He looks great.
17:14He played fantastic.
17:15He's been fantastic since Jimmy's injury.
17:17It was one and a half games.
17:20And it was really encouraging.
17:21Yep.
17:23So, do that.
17:24Exactly.
17:25So, in the worst case, if you don't trade him and you don't get...
17:30Giannis at the deadline, you've got 30 games.
17:32And if he can go out there and play like that, you can still...
17:35You can still be competitive, you can still win games.
17:37You'll be a playing team, and then, who knows?
17:39Maybe...
17:40Maybe you would have figured out at that point, combinations with Kaminga, that actually work.
17:45And look good, and maybe you make it out of the playing, and you get a shot in the series, because that's all...
17:50Anybody really wants, without Jimmy, and without Giannis, just get out of the playing.
17:55And give yourself a chance and a best-of-seven.
17:5733 games to go, right?
17:59Do I have that?
18:00Is that right?
18:00They've played 49, 27, and 22.
18:03That sounds right.
18:04Yeah.
18:0533 games to go.
18:07And has Kaminga been officially ruled out tomorrow?
18:10What's the...
18:10I'll check.
18:11Yeah, will you check?
18:13I don't know that...
18:15I don't know that he has.
18:16I wonder if he's listed as questionable or out for tomorrow.
18:20I'm not saying that I think he's going to play, but I just wonder if he's been ruled out or not.
18:25Let's go to Joseph in Oakland.
18:26Hi, Joseph.
18:27Thanks for calling.
18:30Hey, guys.
18:30What's up?
18:33Stay away from that trade.
18:35Stay away from that trade.
18:36It's not worth it.
18:37Which trade?
18:38The trade in Giannis.
18:39Stay away from that trade.
18:40Stay away from it.
18:41It's not worth it.
18:43You'll screw yourself in the long run.
18:45You won them championships because you went through the draft.
18:49You...
18:50You drafted Curry.
18:51You drafted J-Mine.
18:52You drafted Klay Thompson.
18:54That's what you...
18:55You need to get back to.
18:56You need to play Jonathan Kaminga when he comes back from injury.
18:59You need...
19:00You need to play all the youngsters on this team.
19:04Yes.
19:05As far as Draymond, he's coming off the bench.
19:07I'll give his spot to TJB.
19:09He can...
19:10He can handle it.
19:11Draymond cannot.
19:13That's all I got.
19:14Okay.
19:14Okay.
19:15Thanks, Joseph.
19:16I do not believe that Trace Jackson Davis can handle that.
19:18I understand your...
19:20Your thought about wanting Draymond to come off of the bench.
19:22Who knows?
19:23They...
19:23It may...
19:24It may...
19:25It may come to that.
19:26As far as the Giannis trade, listen, I don't think you're crazy.
19:30If you think that this is too much and too risky and really lacks the...
19:35organic feel that we love in sports, we love when our teams make good draft picks.
19:40And then stick with them for a while and roll.
19:43But even if you do like the young players...
19:45on this roster right now, no one is going to mistake this for a core that can win.
19:50In the future, Kaminga, Will Richard, Brandon Pajemski, Moses Moody, that's not a...
19:55core, they're players, they're NBA players, but it's definitely not a core, so...
20:00I just think, circumstantially, you look at this...
20:05kind of through a new lens every few months.
20:08I have been against the idea...
20:10of Giannis to the Warriors for about a year and a half, because from a financial standpoint...
20:15and beyond, I didn't even think it was plausible or possible, but then one of...
20:20their 50-plus million-dollar players got hurt.
20:23So, my perspective...
20:25the perspective changed, and I just, I don't think that the war...
20:30the Warriors, if you're going to move some things around to be prepared...
20:35prepared for this moment for three years, I think it would be even stupider to not get involved...
20:40if that's what you've been getting ready for for three years.
20:43And you now have a spot where he...
20:45finally seems to be available, and he's open to be somewhere else, and I don't...
20:50I don't know how many other destinations he would prefer over the Warriors.
20:53I think that he would like to play...
20:55with Steph Curry, and with for Steve Kerr, and in this building, and all the...
21:00the rest of it, and this fan base, and whether or not it's a plug-and-play,
21:03yeah, we can win a championship now.
21:05It's probably not, but there are ways between now and next year to continue...
21:10getting better, and I think that this year, even if you get Giannis, it's still more about...
21:15next year than it is this year.
21:17Uh, Steph Curry last night, after the win.
21:20Our job is to keep winning games, and keeping our energy...
21:25as high as we can around here.
21:26We're not ignorant to what's going on around the league.
21:30Rumors, and trade talks, and who's on the block, and all that.
21:35That type of stuff, so...
21:36I know what's going on, but...
21:38right now, it's just about...
21:40trying to continue to win, because if we lose sight of that on the court,
21:43and all that other stuff...
21:45it doesn't really matter.
21:46I think I heard somebody listen to that earlier today, and say that he sounds despondent.
21:51Or kind of defeated.
21:52Did you gather that out of that?
21:53No.
21:54That sounded like just...
21:55Steph.
21:56Is that post-game Steph?
21:57Yeah.
21:58Probably a little tired.
21:59A little tired, and he's played a basketball game.
22:00He did.
22:00Or seven points.
22:01Yeah, that did not sound despondent to me.
22:03He's just, you know, the reality of the situation.
22:05is what he said.
22:06You know, if they keep winning, if they don't keep winning, then what...
22:10What are we even talking about?
22:11Fine, you get Giannis, but you've lost now six in a row, and you're the ninth seed...
22:15But you keep winning, that's all he can control, that's all he can do, and certainly...
22:20They would love to be able to bring in a player of that level, and also, Giannis is hurt right now.
22:25Yeah.
22:26Don't know how hurt, but he's been out for a while.
22:28So, you know, he might not...
22:30He might not be...
22:31If you acquire him on Thursday, he might not be ready to play that night.
22:35Might be...
22:35A couple more weeks, or who knows how long it'll be.
22:37Listen, I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist, but I do...
22:40I do...
22:41This I know, and so do you.
22:43We know this.
22:44Whatever's going on...
22:45What's going on in the NBA?
22:46It's been going on for longer than we know about.
22:50Number one.
22:51And number two, yes, there's even more drama behind the scenes.
22:54Because they don't...
22:55Tell us everything.
22:56If two people don't like each other, or they're disagreeing, they're not gonna...
23:00They're just gonna go to the media and tell that.
23:02So, I don't...
23:03I'm not saying Giannis is...
23:05This is not hurt.
23:06But he got pulled out of a game the other day that he wanted to stay...
23:10And then all of a sudden, was out for four to six weeks.
23:15And then two days later, Choms bombs.
23:18Chaboo!
23:19And he wants to...
23:20You don't think there's any possibility those two things are attached?
23:24Oh, sure.
23:25That's all I'm saying.
23:26Yeah.
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