00:00Factor fiction, uh, Eli Manigat in no specific year
00:05was ever thought of as a top 10 quarterback in the nfl that is a fiction that is also fact okay factor
00:10fiction Eli Manigat for his career is a 500 quarterback factor fiction that's also fact
00:15okay so Eli Manigat is going to get into the hall of fame one day i'm sure of it
00:20and it'll be day for giant fans of the manning family to celebrate and good for them
00:25but when you're 500 quarterback who played how many total years 14 years in the nfl yes
00:30i may be off five years so 60 years so in 16 years 14
00:35out of your 16 years you don't have a single playoff win
00:40meaning you are not a good enough quarterback to take a talented new york giants team
00:45to a playoff win 14 out of your 16 years as a professor
00:50is that correct that is correct in fact he only got to the playoff six times in 16 years
00:55so four of the six times he made it into the playoffs he lost in the first round now obviously
01:00those other two years were special those other two years and one of them is early in his career
01:05when his own general manager said publicly i have a skittish quarterback that's a direct quote
01:10and then for some reason after ahmaud bradshaw went crazy in buffalo and
01:15he ran for 250 yards to get the giants into the playoffs they were wild cards
01:20they went to tampa played well they won they went to dallas played well they
01:25won went to green bay played well they won and then of course beat the patriots in the super bowl
01:30but if you look at his breath of work yeah and of his leg
01:35his last name was johnson and not manning the debate would be great
01:40greater and he would not be a guarantee to be in now to balance that though
01:45you do have to admit that he threw for 57 000 yards let's do the accolades
01:5057 000 57 000 yards which when he retired he was uh top
01:5557 i think right i think he's still 10 or 11 now but it's been passed and i don't care what happened
01:59after let's
02:00he retired he he was i think top seven but he was top
02:0510 for sure yes good now 4 000 yards became the standard yes it did
02:10went you know along there one two three four five six seven
02:15different seasons yes with 4 000 yards so stop there so less than half of his seasons as
02:20pro he threw for more than 4 000 right but earlier in his career that was not the standard it became
02:25the standard and he rose to the occasion in that way that has to count for something now
02:30do you do you i think you give him credit and i will i think his um his door
02:35ability his durability should be considered absolutely the guy did not miss a single game
02:40until they made the brain dead decision to have geno smith star
02:45in the game and then brought him back the very next week to start after ruining uh
02:50streak and it wasn't the kind of streak that josh allen has where he'd go into the game
02:55make one snap and then leave and say mike mike my uh streak stays yeah
03:00to eli manning's credit i don't believe he ever did that no eli manning played football he
03:05would at least play till halftime at least yeah until halftime all the time i mean the guy played like
03:09his streaks are real
03:10streak oh yeah it was a real streak his iron man streak is really one that's never going to be broken
03:15so someone does it the right way yeah but then there's another couple things hey man
03:20only one time uh all pro and only four pro
03:25Pro Bowls.
03:25Yeah.
03:26Shador Sanders is only three short of Eli.
03:29And Shador is only three short.
03:30He's only three short of Eli.
03:31Eli got four.
03:32Shador has one.
03:33I mean, he does.
03:34You have to put that.
03:35Into the mix.
03:35He also led the league in interceptions three different times and not just when he was
03:39a rookie.
03:40Yeah.
03:40Three different times he led the NFL in interceptions.
03:42I agree.
03:43It all goes in there.
03:44So.
03:45Yes.
03:45But if you add it all up.
03:46He's a borderline Hall of Famer.
03:48No, he's not borderline.
03:49No, he's not borderline.
03:50Look, by the way, I want to be clear.
03:51I'm not going to fight against him.
03:53If I had to vote, there'd come a...
03:55Okay, five years from now, seven years from now.
03:57Seven?
03:57And I was in a really good mood.
03:59And I was like...
04:00You know what?
04:00Let's put Eli Manning in.
04:01No, no, no.
04:02But I'm telling you, if his last name was Carton...
04:05Or Johnson...
04:06Yeah.
04:06...or I'll do you better, Kleinberg...
04:08Oh, he'd definitely get it as Kleinberg.
04:10That's a fair point.
04:11Because...
04:11He'd be the Jewish Savior.
04:12The implication...
04:13He'd be Sid Luckman.
04:14The two...
04:15Super Bowls?
04:15Yes.
04:16I'll be a couple more.
04:17You give me a Jewish starting quarterback of two Super Bowls...
04:19That guy...
04:20That guy goes right to the head of the class.
04:21I mean, you don't disrespect him.
04:22As a matter of fact, I wouldn't even wait the five years.
04:25I'd put him in right away.
04:26His mom was fighting against the plan.
04:28I'd put him in.
04:28And he overcame all of that.
04:30I'd put him in while he's still playing.
04:32If I had a Jewish quarterback that won two Super Bowl MVPs.
04:35I'd break all the rules for that guy.
04:37But yeah, look.
04:38He's going to get in.
04:39But...
04:40But what's interesting about it is you can make a very solid...
04:45argument on both sides and not be a jackass.
04:49Like you...
04:50You can argue against it and you have legitimate arguing points.
04:53You do.
04:54You can argue for...
04:55You can argue for it and you have legitimate arguing points.
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