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00:00And we're going to do this every single day up till Super Bowl Sunday, always the first.
00:05The headline is going to be on what Seattle and New England, because we're going to get out the microscope right here.
00:09And I'll look.
00:10Open up at four and a half.
00:11Still sits at four and a half in most outlets.
00:13Forty-six and a half.
00:15Can still find 45 and a half and 46 is in the marketplace right now until we get close.
00:20And again, we're probably not going to have a lot of movement, but we did have injury information come out.
00:25Drake May, a little bit banged up on his shoulder.
00:27He will be fine.
00:28Sam Darnold, we've been here about for weeks that he can't throw.
00:30Football absolutely threw it all over the field against the Los Angeles Rams and extra time to get.
00:35Ready for this one.
00:36Both quarterbacks should be fine.
00:37They'll appear on the practice reports.
00:39We'll.
00:40scrutinize and analyze those, Joe.
00:41But looking at the Super Bowl today as it sits on Thursday, about a week and a half.
00:45Now, what's that spread line for you?
00:47Yeah, I would talk to some of the guys in the risk group.
00:50rooms yesterday, Donnie, and they are under the assumption, hasn't been anything.
00:55The limits are now officially up and ready to go.
01:00But if history tells us that the bulk of the bets and the money will start.
01:05from a right around a week from today, starting next Wednesday, Thursday.
01:10is when we're going to start really seeing the handle increase, meaning a lot more.
01:15more money coming to the windows, a lot more bigger bets, not necessarily, though, Donnie.
01:20Don't confuse big bets from sharp bets because everybody in any.
01:25anybody that has any bankroll is betting this game doesn't mean they.
01:30respected money, but it just means there's going to be money bet a lot of it.
01:35in about a week from now, they're not anticipating a big move one way or the other most.
01:40of the guys that I spoke with believe what you see is what you're going to get.
01:45they think four and a half is likely where it's going to land, but you and I both know.
01:50Johnny, not necessarily a key number here in any way, shape or form.
01:55it's the total that they are expecting to actually based upon one.
02:00once we get the weather report, supposed to be nice, but we're still a million miles away from that, Donnie.
02:05keep an eye on the total, that's where they think the most moving is going in this game.
02:10All those Cleveland Browns, you had so many spots open to be an NFL head coach this season.
02:15was like, okay, we're going to get rid of Stefanski.
02:16Stefanski immediately found work in the, for the Atlanta Falcons because.
02:20he's a known commodity in the NFL that a lot of people believe in, in a two time NFL coach of the year.
02:25I thought the Browns like, look, it just doesn't work at this point.
02:27Let's get a clean break.
02:28Maybe go with some young up and coming.
02:30being offensive coordinator who can build a franchise around and then went with Todd Monken,
02:33which I don't actually mind the decision.
02:35But a lot of people off guard yesterday when that decision was announced, he is.
02:40a no name.
02:40He is a good offensive coordinator.
02:42We just thought he was just going to be tied at the hip to horrible and head to the New York.
02:45Giants and also, it looked like maybe the leader in the clubhouse was Grant Udinski,
02:49the young offensive coordinator.
02:50for the Jacksonville Jaguars who would take that Cleveland job or it was going to be in house with Jim.
02:55It's a defensive team with defensive head coach.
02:57Let's see if we can run this thing back.
02:59They choose my.
03:00And now the defensive coordinator is like, I'm out of here now to Cleveland dysfunction.
03:05It's going to be at its finest right now, Joe.
03:07Yeah.
03:07And I'm, I mean,
03:10it's a tough spot for him because he is the only part of that former.
03:15Stefanski regime that the ownership wanted.
03:18And quite honestly, Donnie, he has delivered.
03:20The best part of the Browns for how long now has been that defense.
03:25That he has been the leader of, right?
03:27So, you know, on the defensive side, especially.
03:30Myles Garrett, that he is a Jim Schwartz fan, that entire defense.
03:35And he thought he was really going to have another shot at a head coaching job.
03:40And it was all lining up.
03:41I mean, it was the Browns, right?
03:42He hasn't coached since 2013.
03:45With the Detroit Lions head coach.
03:48So all of a sudden.
03:50Munkin gets announced and then they's like, hey, sorry about this.
03:54He's a little.
03:55Deflated, but that's human, right?
03:56I would be shocked if he'd be like, all right, no big deal.
03:59I'm, you know, I'm still.
04:00I mean, what do you expect that guy to do?
04:02Of course he wants out, but he's under contract.
04:04And.
04:05I don't know that they're going to hold his feet to the fire with that.
04:08If he wants to go, I'm sure.
04:09They.
04:10They will let him out of the deal and, and he'll be coaching someplace else.
04:14Jets feel like.
04:15They're signing or it's hiring people.
04:16I should say that we've never even heard of before because possibly nobody.
04:20Wants these jobs and understands the task at hand.
04:22You're going to come over here for one year.
04:23You will be fired at the end of the year.
04:25Because Aaron Glenn is going to be fired.
04:26The Jets hire the new defense, according to Brian Duker, who spent the.
04:30Last couple of seasons with the Miami dolphins, but he did work with Aaron Glenn on the lion
04:34staff from 20.
04:3521 to 23, which I don't remember that defense being that great as is, but you get what you get at this point.
04:40Right now, guys like, Hey, I might never be a defensive coordinator.
04:42It could work out.
04:43Most people are saying, I'm not.
04:45Going anywhere near that organization.
04:46Welcome Brian Duker for one year.
04:48He'll be fired at the end of the year.
04:50Well, they'll all be fired, but yes, he goes back even further.
04:55With with Aaron Glenn, then just the just this time with Detroit.
05:00The bottom line is he's a puppet because Aaron Glenn also made the decision that he is the.
05:05One that is going to be calling the defensive play.
05:07So he is going to be the de facto head coach.
05:10NDC, no play calling duties for Duker here.
05:15I mean, if you had Wink Martindale in a building, you had an established great.
05:20defensive line in the NFL who has had nothing but success and you just.
05:25You decided that you're you're going to live or die with the defense as the head.
05:30coach who has no idea what he's doing.
05:32Sounds like it's going to go swimmingly with the Jets.
05:35Oh, it sounds great.
05:36Sounds fantastic.
05:37The end of the year, maybe they'll come on the sports grid network and help us out.
05:40football season as well.
05:41How about this?
05:42A tweet comes out that Brian Dable, of course, is going to be.
05:45The offensive coordinator here for the Tennessee Titans.
05:46He's going to start to build a staff with who's he is familiar with.
05:50They're going to hire Shea Tierney as quarterback coach here.
05:52He coached Daniel Jones, Jackson Dart, Tommy DeVito.
05:55Russell Wilson and more Tierney.
05:56Now Tass getting the most out of Cam Ward.
05:59Yeah.
06:00Listen, it's everyone knows what the what the deal is here.
06:03I mean, Dable.
06:05He has a track record of working with, you know, working with young quarterbacks and
06:09adults.
06:10All started, of course, in Buffalo.
06:11Right.
06:12And we know that.
06:14Well, he almost.
06:15Got Jackson Dart killed there a couple of times, but I think he was trying to save his job
06:19here.
06:19I know.
06:20He's going to be under the same pressure here with Cam Ward.
06:22It is a rebuild process.
06:25But I do think you're going to see a better version of Cam Ward this year with Brian Dable.
06:30How about the Chargers going with a new defensive coordinator, but making this defensive coordinator.
06:35They're higher out of Western Michigan, but there is some familiarity here with the staffs
06:39as all.
06:40Also, Chargers, excuse me, prior to the Chargers, O'Leary coached at Notre Dame under Marcus Freeman.
06:45But also coaching, of course, under Mentor.
06:46So a lot of stuff here changing places.
06:48But how about that?
06:49A West.
06:50Western Michigan MAAC coach is now the D coordinator out there.
06:54Hmm.
06:55Yeah, well, but you know, what does that say about Harbaugh?
06:58He understands the concept, right?
06:59Yeah.
07:00It's, you know, I don't need to be, like, get a guy in there that's going to be passionate.
07:04It's going to be.
07:05He's going to be hungry.
07:05Did it with, you know, Mentor and his brother did a long time ago.
07:10And that's how you build it.
07:11That's how you do it.
07:12And you got to love it.
07:13And listen, that.
07:15Charger defense got a lot of good pieces coming back.
07:17Should be very good again next year.
07:20By the way, the Bucs did reach out to Sean McDermott.
07:21I'm like, oh, that's interesting.
07:22They're going to make a move at head coach.
07:24No, just to be a.
07:25Part of their staff.
07:26Man, he's taking a year off.
07:27It's not going to be part of your staff.
07:28God, Bulls.
07:29Come on.
07:30Hall of Fame is a pretty big topic as of late because why?
07:34Bill Belichick.
07:35Is not a first time ballot Hall of Famer, which we do think is crazy.
07:38Even though we can't admit he did.
07:40He cheated at one of the worst cheating scandals in the history of the NFL.
07:42And some people are holding him accountable for it.
07:44But.
07:45If he wasn't kicked out of the NFL and was still allowed to coach in the NFL decades.
07:50It felt like after Spygate, then he's probably OK with the NFL and should be a first time ballot Hall of.
07:55Hall of Famer, even Tom Brady chimed in and he was stunned.
07:58Quote, if he's not a first ballot.
08:00Hall of Famer, there's really no coach that should ever be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
08:03I think 90.
08:0599.9% of the people out there agree with Tom Brady on this show.
08:10Listen, it's stupid.
08:11Again, we've said it how many times and everyone else.
08:15They have never had, I don't think, the pro football Hall of Famer situation in which.
08:20They actually had to release a statement, Donnie, in order to.
08:25To be able to combat how people, not just fans, but former players, players.
08:30They're superstars in other sports.
08:31I mean, that is how big a ridiculous snub this.
08:35Really was where everyone is questioning the legitimacy now of.
08:40The voting, who's voting and the Hall of Fame itself, it's not a good look.
08:45Not a good look here, but also understand this.
08:48There's a lot of people putting that information.
08:50We know we're backstabbing Bill Belichick along the way.
08:53One of those guys is Robert Kraft.
08:55Oh, basically saying, don't look at me like his record stands for himself.
09:00When all we heard when he left New England was, I'm going to talk to my fellow owners and make sure.
09:05Nobody hires this guy because apparently that 302 career wins that he has, 320.
09:1028th's Don Shula, two or three more years he would have gotten that here.
09:13And as a parent, they don't want him to get that.
09:15But everybody now who had the issues, oh, it wasn't me.
09:19Like, Bill Paul, wait a minute.
09:20I know I don't, but I voted for him.
09:22Absolutely.
09:23Why is there a lot of that smoke where there's.
09:25Type of acts from some of these owners slash former general managers who are not me.
09:30When you know it's them.
09:31Well, it's funny, too, because everyone pointed the finger at Bill Paulian.
09:35As being some sort of ringleader to convince everyone no, but Bill Paulian actually voted.
09:40So we learned that yesterday, too, Donnie, that on his voting card, he actually.
09:45He actually voted for Belichick.
09:46So, I mean, listen, if Paulian votes for him, I don't know what everybody.
09:50else's argument is, but there had to be a collective.
09:55groupthink going on there where a handful of people were like, nah, we're going to make
09:59them.
10:00Wait, we, you know, we didn't, we didn't like, um, oh, the spy.
10:03It's too, it's.
10:05Come on, it's too easy.
10:07Uh, the reality is he should be in, will be in.
10:10And, uh, but not as a first ballot Hall of Famer.
10:12So, I guess congratulations.
10:15To those that wanted to take a stand for what, I have no idea, but all right.
10:20Congrats, by the way, like sometimes you get the scales of justice.
10:25And they're tipped unfair to one side, which I do think is happening to Bill Belichick.
10:29But just when.
10:30And you figure you can't trust the general public with voting on who gets to the Hall
10:34of.
10:35fame, they bring you right back and say, you know what?
10:37They are correct people.
10:39Eli Manning.
10:40Not voted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame for the second straight year.
10:43It should be a third straight year.
10:45A fourth straight year, a fifth straight year, a sixth straight year.
10:48Because I understand one thing.
10:50If I have a great quarterback on that football field, you know what that great team does?
10:54They win them.
10:55The majority of their football games.
10:57I can't put you in the Hall of Fame if you are a 500.
11:00Quarterback.
11:00I just can't.
11:01It's the single most important position in sports.
11:05And you don't have a winning record?
11:06Get out of here!
11:08Mm.
11:09Oh.
11:10Unbelievable, Tony.
11:11It really is.
11:11I, I, this argument has been going on for how long?
11:15Uh, would he, or is he, or isn't he, or, eh, listen, his two best games is.
11:20His two most memorable moments have been beating the, uh, the one coach and quarterback.
11:25It's a combo that nobody else could, uh, in a lot of spots here.
11:28So, uh.
11:30Uh, yes.
11:31Was he a 500 quarterback?
11:32Yes.
11:33Did he, was he, uh.
11:35Uh.
11:35Uh, some of the numbers look really good.
11:37Uh, other numbers don't look great.
11:39Uh.
11:40Is he a first ballot guy?
11:41No, of course not.
11:42But should he be in?
11:44Kind of hard not.
11:45Not to because he was a big part of that decade there where everyone thought Tom Brady.
11:50was going to be invincible and had it not been for Eli, we, you know, the.
11:55Dolphins wouldn't be cracking open champagne every year, would they, Donnie?
11:58When you have.
12:00A quarterback, right?
12:01And I say to myself, for any position in the NFL or across the sports landscape, when
12:04you want to.
12:05Get in the Hall of Fame.
12:05You have to carve out your niche saying, over that 10-year period, I was the best.
12:10Eli Manning wasn't the best quarterback in his own division, like Donovan McNabb routinely.
12:15Was a much better quarterback and McNabb should never, ever sniff the Hall of Fame.
12:19And McNabb.
12:20McNabb was a better overall quarterback than Eli was, just the way it is at this point
12:23right now.
12:23Look, the Hall of.
12:25Good.
12:25It's okay to be in that and enjoy.
12:26He made hundreds of millions of dollars.
12:28He continues to make that.
12:29Everybody, I like.
12:30You can't, I'm an Eagles fan.
12:31You can't like Eli.
12:32By the way, we beat him like a drum for 20 straight years.
12:35Philadelphia's also upset when he actually retired at this point.
12:37But he's a good quarterback, not a Hall of Fame quarterback.
12:40Quarterback here.
12:41Now, maybe Eli can go over and help out the New York Jets.
12:45Even more than at the top of the hour, we're having some fun.
12:47Let's continue.
12:48Let's continue to battle.
12:50Right here.
12:51Come on back.
12:53Predicted markets.
12:53We love them here.
12:55On the Sports Grid Network, specifically on the early line, we always have a nice segment
12:58stuffed away.
12:59We like.
13:00Talk about where some of these coaches are going to go because a lot of outlets, Joe,
13:03they're not going to let you wager.
13:05Or invest on who's going to be the next head coach of a certain organization.
13:08On cash, you're on Polymarket.
13:10You can do that.
13:11Hey, Las Vegas, you're still looking for a head coach right now.
13:14Did you see that?
13:15Performance by Clint Kubiak on Sunday, calling the plays ultra-aggressive.
13:20Knocking off a division rival in the Los Angeles Rams and now headed to the Super Bowl.
13:25Where you can get some interview time in front of some of these hot assistant coaching names.
13:29Clint Kubiak.
13:3069% trading right now, Joe.
13:33To be the head coach.
13:34The next head coach.
13:35Coach, I should say, of the Vegas Raiders.
13:37It looks like he's probably going to be a runaway.
13:40Davis Webb, Cliff Kingsbury, Vance Joseph.
13:42And by the way, Cliff Kingsbury, I haven't heard that name quite a bit.
13:45Now, but Kubiak, he's the hot name, Joe.
13:48Yeah, he's the hot coordinator.
13:50And as well, he should be, right?
13:52I mean, you know, look at what he's done there and look at how good...
13:55Sam Donald is.
13:56Sam Donald, the favorite to win the MVP here of the Super Bowl.
14:00Super Bowl, so, you know, the guy should be at the top of everybody's list.
14:04The...
14:05The only question I have, Donnie, is does he really want it?
14:08Does he want the Raiders?
14:10His dysfunctional organization, does he want to be a part of that?
14:13He obviously is...
14:15His family is very well-versed in the NFL and NFL ownership.
14:19Is that something he...
14:20That would be my only question there, because I know guys like Kingsbury or...
14:25A few other names on that list would likely jump at an opportunity.
14:29I'm not sure...
14:30Kubiak will here, though.
14:31I'm not sold on him.
14:32But here's the good part about it, Joe.
14:34Like, if you...
14:35You are one of these last coaches standing, and let's just say, okay, Arizona and Las Vegas.
14:39Like, they're not...
14:40Great spots, but if you compare the two, Vegas is probably the much better spot.
14:43Number one, Vegas is pretty cool.
14:45But number two, number one overall pick, which is going to be a quarterback.
14:48It looks like he's probably going to be a pretty good player.
14:50A lot of money to spend where you can sort of grow in that organization.
14:52And also, Joe, this isn't at the end...
14:55It comes to the string where it's like, hey, we didn't get anybody we wanted here.
14:58Would you take a low ball for just...
15:00Take a head coach and see how it works out.
15:01Like, it feels like Clint Kubiak can demand a lot from the Vegas Raiders.
15:05He could, but again, we've seen this story with the Vegas Raiders.
15:10The Vegas Raiders before, right?
15:11Yeah, we got our guy.
15:13We got our guy.
15:14And then next year...
15:15Like, no, he's not our guy.
15:15We got to move on.
15:17So, and it's not exactly...
15:19I mean, they do...
15:20They do have the number one pick.
15:22So, to me, I think a lot of this is going to depend...
15:25What are we thinking here?
15:27Are they going, QB?
15:28You would think they would.
15:30Mendoza's going to be right there.
15:32So, you know, we'll see.
15:35And I think they'll overpay for Kubiak at this point because they don't want to be the last
15:39team standing.
15:40Without a head coach.
15:42Arizona could be the last team standing here.
15:44The favorite to take...
15:45Their job is a LeFleur.
15:46Whoa!
15:46Leaving Green Bay?
15:47Did they just get a new deal?
15:48No, it's Mike LeFleur.
15:50His brother supposedly heading down at trading at a 60% chance, followed by Clint.
15:55Kubiak, who's the favorite for the Vegas spot, and Joseph, Ron Rivera at 4%.
16:00I'll tell you how far down we're going.
16:01Also, Cliff Kingsbury's still technically on that list.
16:03But wait a second.
16:04Then you're already...
16:05Fire, Cliff Kingsbury here?
16:06Arizona seems like they're the odd man out and just going to take whatever they can do.
16:10Well, they have a Kyler Murray problem.
16:13They have a lot of problems.
16:15In that, namely, it starts at the top of the organization.
16:18But a lot of these markets...
16:20Donnie, you're so influenced by the latest headlines across the board and names.
16:25And those types of things.
16:26But, you know, if you're Arizona...
16:30It's not exactly the best job, the appealing job.
16:33At least the Raiders have the...
16:35Number one pick, you can kind of start from scratch.
16:37Arizona has a quarterback problem.
16:39A...
16:40Big quarterback problem.
16:41I just...
16:43You're going to end up getting whatever...
16:45Whatever is left over.
16:46Or you're going to get a guy like LaFleur's brother there who would do anything.
16:50To be a head coach in the NFL, which is not a good scenario.
16:54No, it's not.
16:55You're going to just take what you can get.
16:56But that's what it is at Arizona.
16:57When you make your guys pay for cheeseburgers at the facility...
17:00Sort of goes down to the rest of the organization as well.
17:03We'll see what they get as a head coach.
17:05What about this one?
17:05Holly Market asking a question.
17:07This is important.
17:08Who will attend?
17:09Taylor Swift and...
17:10And Travis Kelsey's wedding.
17:11The leader in the clubhouse.
17:12It's Selena Gomez.
17:14Followed by Patrick Mahomes.
17:15And Jack Antonoff.
17:16And by the way, I see a guy out here by the name of Max Martin.
17:18Do you know who Max Martin is?
17:20Joe Ranieri?
17:21I have a feeling you're about to tell me.
17:24He's written...
17:2528 number one singles dating all the way back to the Backstreet...
17:30Boys and NSYNC.
17:31Wow.
17:31He's with Britney Spears.
17:32All that stuff.
17:33Like, this is one of those guys you never hear about.
17:35Joe, but it's probably worth like a trillion dollars.
17:38He's trading at 59% right now.
17:40I would...
17:41I'm sure he's probably wrote a couple of Taylor Swift jams.
17:45So, I would imagine.
17:47So, there you go.
17:48Yep.
17:48That's actually a pretty good call.
17:50So, is Patrick Mahomes.
17:51You know he's going to be there as well.
17:53Yeah, you can make some money on this.
17:54Like, you just take...
17:55Taking that yes market all the way through there.
17:56Sabrina Carpenter, who toured with Taylor Swift.
17:59Probably going to be there.
17:59Lana...
18:00They'll probably make Lana Del Rey sing at the wedding at this point here.
18:03That's going to be a star-studded affair.
18:05Joe, any chance anybody from the Sports Grid Network gets a request?
18:10I don't know.
18:11Who would it be, Wolves?
18:12I'll be Joe Villers this way in there.
18:14We'll be...
18:15All right, Joe.
18:16Answer me this question here.
18:17Like, we just got monster, monster...
18:20Ratings from the NFC Championship game.
18:21It was up 4% from last year, which is basically on par with some of the bumps.
18:25That you're getting year over year.
18:26We love football.
18:28But I don't want to be...
18:29You know, this is like...
18:30I don't want to be Debbie Downer.
18:30I don't want to be Donnie Downer here.
18:32I love football.
18:33And I will watch.
18:34And I...
18:35I will bet that Sunday football game.
18:36Because I do think it's kind of intriguing between Seattle and New England.
18:39But I don't feel like the...
18:40Matchup is intriguing.
18:41Now, am I wrong for saying, like...
18:43Well, we always get mad at when Brady...
18:45shows up in the final or Patrick Mahomes shows up in the final or, you know, whoever.
18:50Or, like, a big-name team.
18:51Philadelphia Eagles, my team.
18:52Like, of course, when you're teams, they're going to be much more excited there.
18:55Do I feel like we're getting a downplayed Super Bowl here?
18:58Or is it just me right now, Joe?
18:59And we're just...
19:00It's a week and a half out, and you've got to wait for it to build.
19:02Yeah.
19:03No, it'll get there.
19:04But I...
19:05I mean, make no mistake about it, Donnie.
19:06The numbers were in this past, you know, weekend and...
19:10Although every broadcast feels like, you know, it is...
19:15Oh, it's all-time high.
19:17It's unbelievable.
19:18Ah, it's not as big a...
19:20jump as you thought it was going to be there.
19:23And I think a lot of reason...
19:24I mean, let's...
19:25Let's face it, you had Jared Stidham at quarterback there, but that was the more...
19:30much game than the actual Rams versus Seahawks, which is kind of crazy.
19:35Even though half the country was under a blizzard and probably couldn't leave and go...
19:40anywhere, but when you think about it, like, all right, so nobody's really interested in...
19:45I mean, Stafford or, you know, versus Seattle, well, they were interested...
19:50But let's face it, no Mahomes, no Lamar, no Josh Allen, no...
19:55You know, the big names matter, and right now there's not a whole lot of them heading in...
20:00to this game.
20:01Sam Darnold's not going to move the needle.
20:03Great story.
20:04Drake May.
20:05Not going to move the needle.
20:07There's not that one that you have to...
20:10Tune in and watch, and that's a problem for the NFL.
20:14It's just like what...
20:15This is the year we probably would have loved to have, like, Josh Allen in there, because
20:17you had that big story, like, can Buffalo finally get over the hump?
20:20Going up against Sam Darnold, good story here, but also, beggars can't be choosers.
20:23We did dodge a bullet.
20:25From not having to see Jared Stidham or hear about Jared Stidham in this unbelievable journey...
20:30over the past two weeks, that you would have heard about nonstop with all these forced,
20:33you know, TV...
20:35stories and issues and interviews here.
20:36So, Seattle, New England will be just fine.
20:39And we date back, like...
20:40We go back a while here.
20:411990s with the NFC, 15.5, 17.5 point spreads.
20:44At least we don't...
20:45We don't have that.
20:45It's four and a half as a favorite right now for Seattle and New England, Joe.
20:49So, I ask you this...
20:50This question, again, we're starting to build up the hype to Super Bowl Sunday.
20:53Where's that line end up?
20:54Close to the...
20:55We're closer to three and a half, let's say.
20:58I think what you see is...
21:00What you got here, Donnie.
21:01It'll bounce back between four and a half and five right up...
21:05Until kickoff, I don't see...
21:07You know, because at that point, it's a...
21:10A million miles away.
21:11A ton of handle, a ton of money going to come flowing in.
21:14I think...
21:15I think we're going to see it on both sides, if we're being honest here.
21:18When you're...
21:19When the...
21:20When the book starts out the way it did, and here we are Thursday...
21:25In the opening week of betting, and we're only still at four and a half, five...
21:29We're...
21:30We're likely not going one way or the other.
21:32The big bets aren't just hanging out waiting.
21:35There's just no reason to run to the window to bet a side, because whether you take four
21:39and a half...
21:40Lay four and a half or five...
21:42In the scope of things, it's the same thing, Donnie, because...
21:45These games generally, in this price point, just pick the winner.
21:49That's all you want.
21:50Pick the winner, and you are good to go.
21:52They will likely cover the spread.
21:55Pick the winner, that's what Cooper Cup did.
21:56Went from the Los Angeles Rams over to the Seattle Seahawks.
21:59Let's hear from...
22:00Cooper Cup, and why he wanted to join Seahawk Nation.
22:02He decided to sign here.
22:04How far did you...
22:05Do you assess they won't for the Super Bowl?
22:06What factor is that?
22:09Yeah.
22:10Actually, EJ texted me last night.
22:12He sent me the message that he...
22:15He had sent me originally, when I reached out to him.
22:19And...
22:20In his reply back to it, I was just asking him about what it was like, what the team was like.
22:25And he said, he said, we are on the cusp.
22:30Of being for a Super Bowl.
22:32Like, we're right there.
22:33And...
22:35And he's like...
22:35He sent that to me, and he's like, I told you.
22:37Right there.
22:39So...
22:40And that was...
22:40I mean, that's a...
22:41That's a...
22:43What we're all striving for.
22:44Right.
22:45You can try to go out there and win a world title.
22:47And...
22:48It was crazy.
22:50Because my wife and I have talked about, like, this...
22:52The playoff picture in general.
22:54I mean, it was a lot of the...
22:55A lot of the teams that are in the playoff picture were teams.
23:00That, like, you know, we had talked to in some capacity or been, like, man, these were...
23:05The teams we thought maybe we would be with during that process.
23:08And...
23:10Really cool to be a part of this one.
23:12And, um...
23:13We'll build what...
23:14What this is...
23:15To come here.
23:15And, um...
23:17Yeah.
23:17It's just been, uh...
23:18An incredible blessing.
23:19Speaking of...
23:20Cooper Cub finds his home in Seattle, looking to cash in and get another ring.
23:25Two rings for Cooper Cub he's looking for now.
23:28Yeah.
23:28You know, I mean, I know a lot of people...
23:30People are very, like, oh, how could they possibly give up on Cooper?
23:33Like a...
23:35I mean, if there's ever a win-win situation here, Donnie, I think it was...
23:40I think it worked out for both Cooper Cub and the Rams.
23:43You know, I mean, they had to make a tough decision.
23:45The guy was, uh, you know, he was Mr. Ram, but, you know...
23:50It happens, uh, but it worked out well for him.
23:52So, I think you gotta be happy for...
23:55Very rare win-win situation for the Rams to let go a franchise...
24:00...player like, and what he meant to that organization, and then he lands in the Super Bowl is pretty...
24:05And how about who makes it to the Super Bowl out of the last 10 years, only nine...
24:10...fanchises have participated in the last 10 Super Bowls, because why?
24:13The AFC typically dominated by...
24:15...two football teams here.
24:16But in the NFC, I see the birds pop up three times.
24:19I remember, Joe.
24:201985 was probably the first Super Bowl that was the Bears and the Patriots that I could understand the game.
24:25And watch it from start to finish.
24:26I remember thinking with my friends, be like, it was so cool.
24:29Like...
24:30The Eagles ever would get to a Super Bowl.
24:32Little did I know, it was 1985.
24:33They wouldn't appear in one until 2000.
24:35So, yeah, the Eagles never appeared, but three times in the past 10 years for my birds, but that AFC...
24:40It's all KC and all New England.
24:43That's all it is there.
24:45And it's so interesting with the NFC, right?
24:46So, you got two for the Rams, two for Seattle.
24:49You got three...
24:50And then you got Atlanta, like, buried somewhere deep in there and over the last 10 years.
24:55Which is hysterical.
24:56But no, it's...
24:57There's consistency there over...
25:00Over the last decade, Donnie, in both divisions.
25:03And that's very telling here.
25:05And it all starts with ownership and the guys pulling the strings at the top, so...
25:10I think the rest of the league, like the Jets, could learn a thing or two.
25:14Now...
25:15Let me bring up this next little clip here from ESPN Insights here.
25:18I'm going to read it to you and then I'm going to pick this up.
25:20Drake May will be 23 years old or 23 years and 162 days old on...
25:25Super Bowl Sunday.
25:25He'll be the second youngest quarterback to start a Super Bowl and the only one to do
25:29so under the...
25:30The age of 24.
25:31I see Ben Roethlisberger.
25:32I don't see Dan Marino in that picture, do you?
25:35No, I...
25:37No, I do, don't I?
25:39Or is he not there?
25:40Are they not there?
25:4116?
25:4216?
25:43When was Marino 16 out there?
25:44Who's that, David?
25:45Like, who is that a picture actually of?
25:47Oh, 16 is not Marino.
25:49Yes, that's...
25:50Well, that is just a dolphin at this point and really at that point, that's all that matters.
25:55Uh, really, but how old was Roethlisberger, by the way, when he was...
26:00Was he...
26:01Almost 24.
26:02He was 23 years and 340 days.
26:05Yeah.
26:06And Marino was 23 and 127 days here.
26:09How about that?
26:09I think...
26:10I do think that...
26:11Yeah.
26:11David Woodley down, there's a picture of Marino.
26:13Like, damn, Marino wore 16.
26:14Never.
26:15Oh, great.
26:15And Marino disgraced us by putting on number 16 as opposed to 13 out here.
26:19And by the way...
26:20Mattress Mac is back here.
26:22Making dollars make sense out here.
26:24The largest report...
26:25Super Bowl futures bet now belongs to Mattress Mac.
26:28He placed a $2 million weight...
26:30Major at Caesars Sportsbook on the AFC winning the Super Bowl at a plus 200 odds.
26:35Before Sunday's championship games here.
26:37So there you go.
26:38Furniture promotion ready to go.
26:40Well, I think, aren't they about plus 200, right?
26:45Right now, New England, I think.
26:47I'm not sure there was a ton of value in that, but...
26:50You've got to double-check what the money...
26:51What is the money line right now for New England to win...
26:55This game outright.
26:57And it's got to be somewhere around there.
27:00What have we got?
27:00Minus.
27:01Yeah, so plus 190.
27:02So, you know, some future bet.
27:04You didn't get a whole...
27:05Whole lot of value there betting it early because you're getting the same price right now.
27:10Yeah, the Patriots could have busted out a sweet uniform for the Super Bowl.
27:13They had the first choice on uniform.
27:15They went white on white, which they could have went with their throwbacks here, which we didn't get.
27:19A throwback super...
27:20Super Bowl with two beautiful uniforms.
27:22We can never have nice things at this point here.
27:24Never.
27:25No, no.
27:26It's...
27:27The white on white is an interesting choice, I think.
27:30White on white.
27:31That's Rick Ross, I believe, right?
27:33We've got to talk about that.
27:34What's next?
27:35That's right.
27:35Cam is coming up next.
27:37Already made one bet for the Super Bowl, guys.
27:40I'll give you a prop bet now.
27:42It's a sneaky one, too.
27:43George Helani.
27:45Over eight and a half yards receiving for the Seahawks.
27:47He went three for 27 last week, nine yards.
27:49Yeah.
27:50Watch out.
27:50Everyone's going to be focusing in on Walker.
27:52We hit Walker over with the receiving yards.
27:54Watch out.
27:55Watch out for George Helani.
27:56He's the backup.
27:57And people will go, what about the rushing?
27:58He rushed for three carries for...
28:00For four yards for Seattle.
28:01But I think he'll be a big...
28:02You know, the Patriots are going to bring pressure.
28:04Watch out for...
28:05For Helani, he's going to get three or four balls, I think,
28:07and get way over eight and a half yards receiving.
28:09So that's...
28:10That's what I'm looking at.
28:11And great call by you guys.
28:12Getting out the futures earlier.
28:14I got...
28:15I got one in my pocket with Walker at 16 to one.
28:17What is he now?
28:18Six to one.
28:19These guys told you.
28:19Yep.
28:20You got to get the stuff early in the championship games.
28:22Now all the numbers are gone.
28:23So I got a few...
28:25Two players in my back pocket if Seattle wins.
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