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00:00You hear the music, you know what time it is. Rob Bradford joins us every Thursday.
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00:18Rob, what's up?
00:20McMay doesn't get on the podium and yell McFarlane, he's not trying.
00:23I mean, at least for the send-off.
00:25At least for the send-off on Sunday.
00:27That'd be nice.
00:27Yell McFarlane.
00:28That'd be nice.
00:29Yeah, it's cold enough.
00:30Which arm will he raise, though?
00:31Oh, great question.
00:32Can I get that right wing up in the air?
00:34What?
00:35Well, I know a few things about labrum surgery, so I can...
00:39Labrum.
00:40Maybe fill you in.
00:41Labrum.
00:41Yeah, I got it.
00:42Yeah, labrum, yes.
00:43Okay, just making sure.
00:45Oh, I heard you right.
00:45Huh?
00:46Oh, I have some stories.
00:48I don't think I want...
00:50I'm a hero, quite frankly.
00:51But okay, Rob, what's up with this baseball team?
00:54We're watching...
00:55We're watching all these shredder countdowns and rankings.
00:59I love a good shredder.
01:00So apparently the Red Sox have the best two left fielders in baseball.
01:03That's amazing.
01:04Mm-hmm.
01:04So it's...
01:05It's going to revolutionize the game.
01:07Put two left fielders out there.
01:09Remember...
01:10Remember, by the way, in the World Series when Cora was rotating the outfielders in the
01:14middle of the...
01:15Like, because...
01:16Because Manny Machado was a pole header, so they would move J.D. Martinez out.
01:20All the way to the cross, so just good times.
01:22I just wanted to throw that out there.
01:23Yeah.
01:24So...
01:25But the Jared Duran thing at leading...
01:28With all due respect to Jared Duran...
01:30Who, as we've seen, can be a really, really unbelievable player.
01:34A dynamic...
01:35A very unique player.
01:37Wow.
01:38Putting him at the top of the left field...
01:40That was something.
01:41Mm-hmm.
01:42That was something.
01:43For a guy who didn't even have an 800...
01:45OPS last year, who had a 600 OPS against lefties, coming up...
01:50That was tough that year?
01:51That was something, Shredder.
01:52Yeah, that was also...
01:53My takeaway was...
01:55Man, left field's not what it used to be.
01:57No.
01:57This ain't your older brother's left field anymore.
01:59I was like...
02:00Yeah, that's kind of an odd list.
02:01Like, those two guys...
02:02I love Roman Anthony, but even just after one...
02:05Kind of half year, he's up there.
02:07Cody Bellinger, I guess he puts up good numbers in that park.
02:10But, like, I don't know.
02:11I wasn't blown away by him.
02:12He's in the mix for the best left fielder in the sport.
02:14Yeah.
02:14Top three left fielder.
02:15So, I mean, once again, we're looking at it where they have all these outfielders still.
02:20We talked about it even going all the way back to the last trade deadline.
02:23If they would move one, they didn't, which was...
02:25It was good because Anthony got hurt.
02:26But, like, what do they do now?
02:28And what is the trade value for a guy...
02:30I like Jaron Duran.
02:31Oh, I think the trade value is great.
02:33Yeah.
02:34I mean...
02:35Thanks to Shredder, yeah.
02:36I was going to say, especially now he's on the top of the Shredder's list.
02:39I mean...
02:40People in the front office are celebrating, like, yay!
02:42Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
02:43But I said...
02:45I said this all along, is that, you know, that he's a coveted guy.
02:49We knew this...
02:50Going back, certainly San Diego likes him a lot.
02:53But there's a lot of teams that like him.
02:55And I think the Red Sox stance was along the lines of what Arizona's stance with...
03:00Which is, yeah, you know, if you want to blow us away, okay, go ahead.
03:05But we're perfectly going to be happy with going into the season, figuring this out.
03:10Going with all these outfielders, and we'll go from there.
03:14So I don't think...
03:15I think the Red Sox were ever of the mind of, we've got to get rid of this guy.
03:18We have too many.
03:20It doesn't fit.
03:21He still might be traded.
03:22There still might be a trade.
03:23We never know.
03:25But right now, as we sit here, I think there's a very, very strong possibility they just...
03:30Go into spring training and say, maybe somebody will get hurt.
03:33It'll sift itself out.
03:35Rob Bradford, WEI Baseball Isn't Boring Podcast, joining us here as he does every Thursday on...
03:40Jones and Keefe.
03:41A lot of the prospect rankings are coming out now, Brad Foe.
03:44Baseball America...
03:45I think I had theirs, I think in the last day or so, Keith Law, Kylie McDaniel, ESPN.
03:50Have both released their overall farm system rankings.
03:52Red Sox are 10 and 11 on those two rankings.
03:55But if you look at the top 100 prospects, even take it out further...
04:00I think McDaniel made this point.
04:01You go 200, maybe even 250, there's one bat.
04:05And all their other prospects are pitchers.
04:07Then you look at the major league roster, it's all pitchers.
04:10It's like, it's not just the big league roster, organizationally it feels like...
04:15Like, the whole thing doesn't fit together.
04:16It feels like they're way too pitching heavy, which makes...
04:20Makes me think something else has to give.
04:21Is that an accurate view on the whole system?
04:24Well, I've...
04:25I think if you go back to the last couple years, this isn't a mystery because they've drafted
04:29so many pitchers.
04:30And here's the weird thing, is that obviously, you know, they keep getting pitchers, Rangers...
04:35Suarez, I don't know if you saw the press conference, probably the most sparsely...
04:40Attended press conference because of the Patriots, but I do want to point out the...
04:45He just swore his suit game was very, very solid.
04:47Oh, yeah, it was nice.
04:48That was like an homage to the Patriots, right?
04:50The all-whites?
04:50Yeah, all-whites.
04:51It's all good.
04:52Did he confirm how to say his name?
04:54Not to go back to that...
04:55Oh, did we do this?
04:56We talked about this with Fratilla, but we still don't think we had an answer.
04:59Yeah.
05:00Here's the confirmation that I need from him.
05:01He said, it's all right to call me Ranger.
05:03I'm like, done.
05:04Done.
05:04All right.
05:05I'm not going to try to do anything else.
05:07So, but they've drafted...
05:10He did significantly more pitchers than hitters over the last couple of years.
05:14If the...
05:15The weird thing is, if you go in that clubhouse in spring training last year, so typically...
05:20Usually, you walk in, and all the pitchers are on the right, and all the hitters are on
05:23the left, and you never...
05:25You never see an overlap.
05:26Last year, the overlap was...
05:27There was a ton of overlap.
05:29A lot of pitchers...
05:30The pitchers were over on the left.
05:31They had a lot more pitchers.
05:32So, we know what they've been trying to do, but to your point...
05:35They've really thinned themselves out, and that's why I say...
05:39What?
05:40Well, how do they view Oviedo?
05:41Well, they view him, like, as an important guy because you just traded away...
05:45One of the few guys you have, hitter-wise, in the top 100 in Just Nixon...
05:50And Garcia.
05:50So, they've got to figure this out, but until you figure it out, until you start getting
05:55those guys, you really have to trade for some of them, and that...
06:00And I know that we'll probably talk about trades, or what they're going to do.
06:03I look at pay the pipe...
06:05Pay some of this pitching for a guy like Matt Shaw for the Chicago Cubs.
06:09He's 20...
06:1024 years old.
06:11Obviously, he's going to cost a lot, but you've got to start getting young...
06:15Uncontrollable hitters, along with what you already have at the Major League roster.
06:19What?
06:20What's your best guess for the opening day infield?
06:23What would be starting infield?
06:25Without a trade, or with a trade?
06:28I mean, I guess do both.
06:29I mean, I guess you could...
06:30Yeah, yeah, I mean, listen, if they could be, yeah.
06:32Yeah, they could...
06:33I think what they could do...
06:35I know that they want to play Marcelo Meyer at third, right?
06:37But you could platoon Romy Gonzalez...
06:40And Marcelo at second.
06:41You could do that and figure out third.
06:43That might be the case.
06:44The Geno Swarm...
06:45Man, like, I get it.
06:47He hits home runs, but if you're going to go down this...
06:50Run Prevention route, that's not the guy to get.
06:53And I'll say it again.
06:55We're tying ourselves into not trying to figure out what is left.
06:59Brett and Donna...
07:00Donovan, not a great fit, will cost you a lot.
07:03Nico Horner, fine.
07:05One year, though, will cost you a lot.
07:07Well, a ton.
07:08I'll come back...
07:09I look at...
07:10Matt Shaw, this kid from the Cubs and all...
07:12The pride of Northfield, Mount Hermon, and...
07:15Had a great second half last year, 24 years old, doesn't have a logical place to...
07:20Play it in the Cubs.
07:21Yes.
07:21Will he cost a Peyton Toley or a Conley early level...
07:25Yeah, probably, but if you're talking about a right-handed power-hitting third...
07:30Baseman who can field the ball, that's the type of guy you're going to get.
07:33Wow, he's going to cost...
07:35He's going to cost that?
07:36Yeah.
07:37Yeah, he's...
07:37Listen, the Cubs is...
07:40As much as he doesn't have a place to play right now, Nico Horner is a free agent after
07:43next year.
07:44So it's...
07:45You're going to have to fill in that gap, and by the way, he was...
07:50A first-round pick, a top prospect, a guy who in the second half of last year...
07:55Actually showed why he's a first-round pick and a top prospect.
07:58He can be...
08:00A valuable, valuable guy, but yeah, to answer your question, that's probably what it would
08:04cost.
08:05If you enjoyed this week, everybody making fun of the pro football Hall of Fame voters
08:08instead of the baseball Hall of Fame voters.
08:10They really took the heat off me, didn't they?
08:13I mean...
08:15It's...
08:15I...
08:15I think, yeah, I would say Belichick not getting in is worse than...
08:20Beltran and Andrew Jones getting it, so yeah.
08:22Scott Rowland.
08:23Scott Rowland's off the hook.
08:24Exactly.
08:25But I would ask you this.
08:27What is more...
08:27What is a more fraudulent...
08:30voting system, baseball or football?
08:32Yours.
08:33No, I would...
08:34I mean...
08:35I don't own it.
08:36It might be the football one.
08:40There's less voters.
08:40They don't seem like they know what they're doing.
08:42They hide behind their votes.
08:43They're private about it.
08:44The way...
08:45It's a weird thing to me, and this isn't...
08:46You can put in 10 guys a year in the baseball Hall.
08:48Like, they gotta cut that out.
08:49You gotta...
08:49But they at least...
08:50It's hit a certain threshold.
08:51I guess it's the same, but, like, in football, it's like, we get...
08:55Five players and one contributor, like, every year.
08:57It might not be worth that many either.
08:58I would say this.
08:59Is it baseball...
09:00Football, a few years ago, made a good move of kicking people out.
09:03Like, in other words...
09:04Yeah.
09:04If you...
09:05You haven't actively covered baseball in 10 years, like, you're out.
09:08That's good.
09:09Good call.
09:10I'll give you that.
09:11And I will say this.
09:12I looked at the list of the football...
09:15Man, I know there's new news organizations.
09:19Some of these...
09:20These news organizations I have never heard of.
09:22Oh, most of them.
09:23It's like a wild group.
09:24Yeah.
09:25It's kind of crazy.
09:27You don't know the talk of fame?
09:28The talk of fame network?
09:29I do...
09:30Now?
09:30Yeah.
09:31I do know.
09:32But it's...
09:33I think that...
09:35They're both tremendously flawed.
09:36And I say this because...
09:39You know...
09:40The one thing that we can, I think, agree on is that we need accountability.
09:44We need...
09:45People to say, this is who I vote for.
09:46Now, how they do it in baseball, you can check off...
09:50A box and publicly say, I publicly am okay with my vote being public.
09:55Well, okay.
09:56Like, I would just say, make sure that everybody knows...
10:00Because as we found out with Itro last year, we're still trying to track down that person.
10:05Who didn't vote for him?
10:05Classic.
10:06Yeah.
10:07I mean, I think...
10:07So, I think that that's step one.
10:09It makes me think...
10:10It makes me think it was you, Brad.
10:11You're like, we're still looking for the guy.
10:13Oh, no.
10:13I...
10:14I...
10:15I could...
10:16First of all, what you do...
10:17Based on his ballot this year, he definitely voted for him.
10:19What...
10:19What you...
10:20By the way, I voted for almost the same people last year.
10:24Nobody gave me any...
10:25Crap.
10:25So, whatever.
10:26You just paid attention this year.
10:27But what I would...
10:28As soon as that Ichiro thing...
10:30Came out, I immediately like, oh my goodness, did I screw up?
10:33Did I miss...
10:33Not check off that...
10:35And I was so quick to take the picture of my ballot and put it up there.
10:39It wasn't me!
10:40It wasn't me, which is exactly what I would be doing if I was a NFL Hall of Fame voter.
10:44Oh, yeah.
10:44Good.
10:45Good.
10:45We're bullying people into the right votes.
10:46I like it.
10:47All right.
10:48Well, he's Rob Bradford.
10:49Check him out.
10:49Baseball is...
10:50Isn't Boring.
10:50And follow him on Twitter at Bradfoe.
10:52Excellent stuff, as always.
10:53Rob, we'll talk to you next week.
10:54All right.
10:55All right, guys.
10:55Good talking with you.
10:55I'll see you later.
10:56Okay.
10:57He brings up the name Matt Shaw.
10:59Yeah, Matt Shaw.
11:00You want a little bit of Matt Shaw?
11:01No.
11:01Not at the asking price.
11:02All due respect to the great city of Springfield.
11:05Where it says he's born.
11:06Nice.
11:06Basketball Hall of Fame.
11:07He will turn...
11:08It's all connected.
11:09He's 20.
11:1024.
11:10He'll be 24 all year.
11:11He turns 25 in November.
11:13Young man.
11:14A hundred...
11:15126 games last year, Keefe.
11:17Yeah, you go.
11:1713 homers.
11:18226.
11:196'9".
11:2090 OPS.
11:20Okay.
11:21All right, well...
11:22That's going to cost me tollier early.
11:23No.
11:24No.
11:25Yeah, no thanks.
11:26I mean, if that's what we're talking about, I'll start...
11:29He's a righty stick.
11:30If you need Casas at DH and World Platoon, Roby Gonzalez, sign me up for that.
11:34If that's...
11:35That's the asking price for guys like that.
11:36He's got a good range factor.
11:37Yeah, he's good.
11:38You said the percentage is high?
11:39You said the war...
11:40The war was pretty good.
11:41Yeah.
11:41Yeah, nice war.
11:41He's in the future game in 2024.
11:44He was...
11:45He was fifth in double plays turned as a third baseman.
11:48Oh, that'll get you.
11:49In the national...
11:50It might get you five points in your ultimate Hall of Fame tabulation.
11:52Yeah, well, it might.
11:53We're going to be fixing the Halls of Fame.
11:55Coming up at high noon when we go on the clock.
11:57That's all of them.
11:58Easy peasy.
11:5960 seconds, we're fixing...
12:00Boom, done.
12:01So stay tuned for that, plus more on the Patriots and how they approach the season.
12:05Seahawks on, well, two Sundays from now in Super Bowl 60.
12:07That's next.
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