00:00There was a wave of heat, and we said, yes, it's the heat of the heat, he told us that it doesn't work.
00:05But as soon as the heat of the heat stops, we forget all that.
00:10We live all the day.
00:12Heureusement, part of the youth...
00:15He takes conscience of this and works hard for the people.
00:20We decided to have repeated perturbations actions, to, as you said,
00:25that, from one day to another, people don't forget the urgency in which we are.
00:30We decided to have repeated perturbations actions, to, as you said,
00:35that, from one day to another, people don't forget the urgency in which we are.
00:35We decided to have repeated perturbations actions in which we are.
00:40There is no fear of going up to a certain point to be able to move things.
00:45Jusqu'à quel point ?
00:46La perturbation non-violente, c'est ce qui a montré dans le passé que ça marchait,
00:49les droits civiles.
00:50C'est américain, moi, c'est ce qui me parle beaucoup,
00:52l'histoire des Freedom Riders, tout en étant non-violente.
00:55En fait, il faut aller provoquer le changement qu'on attend,
00:58et on n'a pas besoin d'être très nombreux.
01:00S'il n'y a pas une nouvelle force politique qui regrouperait les bonnes...
01:05On est livrés à des actions isolées.
01:10Les choses, si vous voulez, se font à travers la prédication, à travers la...
01:15Par exemple, au travers une...
01:20Les pensées qu'ils expriment, s'il n'y avait pas eu le...
01:25Le manifeste communiste de Karl Marx sous son avant-politique, jamais...
01:30Il y aurait eu des grands partis, comme socialistes ou communistes, pour le meilleur...
01:35Donc, aujourd'hui, moi, je crois que...
01:40Il faut une pensée écologique.
01:42Déjà, dans les mouvements que vous avez cités, il ne faut pas nier aussi les...
01:45Mais, physiquement, qu'est-ce qui s'est passé ?
01:47C'est des personnes qui sont montées sur des podiums,
01:49c'est des personnes qui se sont mises en travers d'une...
01:50Parce qu'ils n'étaient pas contents.
01:51C'est des personnes qui ont tagué, c'est des personnes qui ont fait des choses.
01:54Et aujourd'hui...
01:55Je pense que le pouvoir d'agir, il faut le redonner aux gens, aussi en leur disant...
01:58Vous avez une autre...
02:00Une autre force de frappe.
02:01En plus de juste réfléchir dans votre chambre.
02:03Et vous pouvez aller, vous pouvez descendre dans...
02:05Dans la rue, vous pouvez faire des choses.
02:06Je crois qu'on...
02:08On sera aidé par les...
02:10Catastrophes.
02:11Ce sera notre meilleur allié, c'est paradoxal de le dire.
02:15Mais une catastrophe permet de prendre conscience.
02:20On voit déjà des petites mesures locales, mais on n'a pas encore la grande action.
02:25Il faut coordonner, parce que je pense, là aussi, que...
02:30Les gouvernements...
02:32Qui sont encore englués...
02:35Dans ce qu'on peut appeler le...
02:37Le néolibéralisme, enfin...
02:40Dans la croyance uniquement de la compétition et au profit...
02:46Ne se rendent pas compte des...
02:49des nécessités...
02:50there will be various disasters.
02:55These disasters will be our weapon.
03:00And that we will succeed at the end of the abyss.
03:05There is no hope, no certainty.
03:10But we have to work with hope.
03:13My hope, I would just place it a little bit.
03:15I have more hope that the collective prise of consciousness
03:20be able to help.
03:20It will come before the disasters,
03:22because the disasters that we will face,
03:24are not one or two.
03:25And then we will be able to say,
03:27okay, let's do a little break, it's enough.
03:30It's an engrenage where it's not for 10 years,
03:32it's not for 20 years,
03:33it's for the next generation.
03:35We will face the natural disasters.
03:37So, there will be mass famine because it will get too cold.
03:40inondations, it's going to be the total panic. Of course, if there are many catastrophes,
03:45thank you, there will be reactions, but it will be too late in fact. And if today I'm going to bat, and if today I'm going to go down...
03:50and I'm going to go down the road for these convictions, it's that I have the hope that, before that, it was still possible.
03:55It's totally possible to change the donne and to despair in a world in which these catastrophes will be much better.
04:00It needs this global political policy, but we need to look at it.
04:05It doesn't need to think that it's already 50 years ago that governments are aware of it.
04:10So it would be very naive to think that in the next 2-3 years, there will just be a click.
04:15It doesn't need to look at it.
04:16When you talk about the next catastrophe, it makes me very scared.
04:20Because I know that there will not be one or two, and that it will be that during all my...
04:25...toute the end of my life.
04:26I have already experienced the somnambulism in the years before...
04:30...the end of my life.
04:31It's been a long time.
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