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Seth and Sean react to and assess Kendrick Perkins' crazy idea of a deal to bring Giannis to the Rockets.
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00:00Here was Kendrick Perkins on ESPN yesterday saying that...
00:05It's time for Giannis Antetokounmpo to get up and out of Milwaukee.
00:09Milwaukee's have...
00:10He's having a horrible year.
00:11He's out with an injury right now, we should point out.
00:13Four to six weeks with a calf injury.
00:15But Kendrick Perkins is saying it's time to get him out of there and he suggests...
00:20This trade for the Houston Rockets.
00:23Whitney, respectfully, I don't...
00:25I want to hear about pathways or highways.
00:27It's time to exit.
00:28It's time to exit.
00:29It's time to exit.
00:30It's time to end this relationship.
00:32And I don't want to hear about what could possibly happen.
00:35I don't want to hear about what could happen.
00:38I want to hear about it for sure.
00:40You know what the for sure is?
00:42You know what?
00:43They got this guy by the name of Alfred Shanguna.
00:45He's on my own down there with the Houston Rockets right now.
00:48And when you look at the Rockets, they...
00:50they're kind of in the thick
00:51of things, but they're not
00:53really showing that they
00:55could get past the O.
00:55KC or San Antonio or Denver
00:58Nuggets, but if they.
01:00Make a move and go get
01:01Giannis out to the cupo and
01:03straight and make a trade
01:04center.
01:05And maybe throw in the guy
01:06like Tori Easton and some
01:08picks.
01:10And you bring Giannis to the
01:11H-Town with KD and Ayman
01:14Thompson.
01:15Excuse me.
01:16And that's how you talk about
01:17moving a needle because the
01:18Rock is.
01:20You know, he just went all
01:21in, in my opinion, for his
01:22gambling and taking a bet when
01:24they traded for KD.
01:25And then they resigned him
01:26saying basically over the next
01:28two years, we want to try to
01:29win the champion.
01:30championship.
01:31We're getting Giannis out to the
01:32cupo moves the needle more than
01:33Afro-Sangun.
01:34And you know, I'm a.
01:35huge shangun fan.
01:36But who says no in that trade
01:38essay does.
01:39Nobody.
01:40You say no.
01:41I believe not.
01:42If you listen.
01:43Okay then.
01:44So if I'm Giannis and I'm the.
01:45Bucs instead of worrying about
01:47what the Pelicans might do and
01:48who controls this pick.
01:50I know what I could get from
01:51H from the H town right now.
01:53And I could get a guy that's
01:54proven.
01:55And that's on the rise.
01:56So.
01:57And that's in Afro-Sangun.
01:58The question Seth is.
02:00Should the Rockets include.
02:02Alfred.
02:03Shin.
02:04Goon.
02:05In the trade for Giannis
02:07Attentacupo.
02:08Wait, but didn't he also say
02:09Tori.
02:10Eason.
02:11Should Tori Eason.
02:12Alfred.
02:13Shangun.
02:14Be part of this deal.
02:15You can't include two guys
02:17who are apparently like the
02:18the twin brothers of the
02:20actual basketball players.
02:21That he loves Shane Goon.
02:23He loves him.
02:24Loves him so.
02:25much.
02:26That he can't be bothered.
02:27You know.
02:28It's an Alfred.
02:29Yeah.
02:30Swap a peeper.
02:30coming out.
02:31That.
02:32No.
02:33I think that.
02:34Especially in throwing
02:35Tari Eason.
02:35into that.
02:36And.
02:37With all the respect that he
02:38has for Shane Goon.
02:40That.
02:41The part where he said
02:42you went all in on Kevin
02:43Drant and yeah you extended
02:44his contract.
02:45Right.
02:46That's a move for several years
02:48not just one year.
02:50And.
02:51Ahmed Thompson.
02:52Especially.
02:53Is.
02:54Like.
02:55Everybody.
02:55What he mentioned in that.
02:56In that.
02:57In that.
02:58Involved in that trade.
02:59Is.
03:00Somebody.
03:01On the Rockets.
03:02Who's still an improving
03:03basketball player.
03:04That's a part.
03:05of it.
03:06That I really didn't like.
03:07Is.
03:08Wait a second.
03:09The.
03:10Alperin Shane Goon.
03:11Who could.
03:12Conceive.
03:10be on the Rockets.
03:11Until.
03:12Until.
03:13He's in Tedokounmpo's age.
03:15Another 10 years.
03:16To be on the Rockets.
03:17Um.
03:18And is still.
03:19Very affordable.
03:20And is developing into one of the best players in the league.
03:23No.
03:24I'm not gonna let him go.
03:25Because.
03:25Because maybe.
03:26That.
03:27Bringing in.
03:28Losing.
03:29Tari Eason.
03:30And Alperin Shane.
03:30But bringing in Tedokounmpo in.
03:32Is still not gonna.
03:33Fix.
03:34What is.
03:35Really holding this team back.
03:37Or has.
03:38In some of it's lulls.
03:39Which is.
03:40Alright.
03:41We need.
03:40To develop a true point guard.
03:41And Amin Thompson is making a lot of progress in that regards.
03:44I.
03:45I don't.
03:46I think that.
03:47The bling appeal of in Tedokounmpo.
03:49Is blinding people.
03:50To.
03:51What most Rockets fans.
03:52I'm guessing.
03:53Would say to that trade.
03:54When he asked who says no.
03:55I feel like 95% of Rockets fans are raising their hands.
03:58I did.
03:59I raised my hand.
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04:53is asking you to do both of those things.
04:55I think that's the other part of it, too,
04:57where I'll use Perkins' own words.
04:58Against them, you know, he said they went all in on Durant,
05:02which I feel is an...
05:03It's an exaggeration because of everything he just laid out.
05:06Huge exaggeration. It's a great point, yes.
05:07They did that. Now, extending his...
05:08Contract is going all in.
05:10But if what you believe is that they went all in,
05:12right, when you go all...
05:13When you go all in on something,
05:15by definition, you don't have anything left.
05:18Like, that's the...
05:18That's the move right there.
05:20And so I disagree with him calling it an all in
05:23because you can't say something...
05:23Somebody went all in
05:24and then asked that you need to trade even more.
05:27Right, right, right!
05:28That's not the definition of going all in.
05:30Going all in means...
05:31That's it. That is your big bet.
05:33So if he really meant that,
05:36then no, you're not then also making another move...
05:38to bring in an Ateno Kumpo.
05:40The move was, in a very fair trade...
05:43to bring in Kevin Durant
05:45to play alongside this tantalizing young core...
05:48of players you have.
05:49And why it was such a good trade
05:51was because you gave up hardly any of...
05:53that young core of players.
05:55And there's no reason not to believe
05:57in that young core of players right now.
05:59Yeah.
05:59Everything that's happened so far this season,
06:01including Amon Thompson and Reed Shepard...
06:03learning how to be point guards in the NBA.
06:06That's gone about probably...
06:08how if you looked at the beginning of the season...
06:12because once you get in the season,
06:13then every week...
06:13it feels like it's taking forever
06:15and nothing's ever going to work out or anything.
06:17I feel like Amon Thompson is about...
06:18where you would have projected
06:20that you'd like him to be at this point.
06:23Where he's really starting to...
06:23show a feel for playing the position
06:27more than he did early on when it...
06:28was when it was new to him.
06:30All in means that if the move doesn't work,
06:32you've got no outs.
06:33Like, you're...
06:33you're almost...
06:35you're closer to...
06:36maybe you're not totally starting over,
06:37but you're closer to starting over.
06:38than you would be if the move did work out.
06:41This...
06:41this would be an all-in move.
06:43This would be all-in.
06:44Yeah.
06:44They didn't go all-in.
06:46That's why it was such a great trade,
06:47because they were able to not...
06:48go all-in.
06:49All-in would be if this doesn't work out
06:51in the next year or two,
06:52we're screwed.
06:52We're rebuilding.
06:53It's not...
06:53like, yeah,
06:54if Kevin Durant ends up getting injured or something,
06:56it's gonna hurt.
06:57But you still have that in your core.
06:58Yeah.
06:58And you still have...
07:01you can still look out ahead of you
07:03and feel really...
07:03optimistic about what you can do
07:05and some of the moves you can make.
07:07But it doesn't include trading way too...
07:08two pieces,
07:10two starters
07:10for one player
07:12who's much, much older.
07:13and doesn't have the same upside
07:15as those other two players.
07:16Yeah, one of them's an all-star.
07:17I mean, Alper and Schengen,
07:18there's a...
07:18there's very little speculation anymore
07:20to what Schengen is and can be.
07:23Yeah, it's a...
07:23Yeah, there's no question...
07:23there's no question about
07:24whether he's a really good player or not.
07:26It's okay.
07:27How...
07:27can he be a...
07:28great, great player.
07:30Right.
07:30Yeah.
07:30The only...
07:31the only part that really made any sense
07:33to that to me...
07:33was Tari Eason being in there
07:35only because he didn't sign a contract extension
07:37before the season.
07:38Yeah.
07:38He's clearly...
07:38playing it out here,
07:39but he's...
07:40he's not an unrestricted free agent now.
07:42He's a restricted free agent.
07:43after this year,
07:44which means he can go out
07:45and get an offer sheet from somebody
07:47and then the Rockets can match that if they want.
07:48Is there anybody on the text line
07:50that supports this?
07:51No, you want me to read some of the text
07:52I was about to?
07:53Yeah.
07:53All of Houston says F you, Perkins.
07:56Yeah.
07:57Hell no.
07:57These are all separate texts.
07:58from different numbers.
08:00No Kendrick.
08:01All in would...
08:02would be trading two massive people.
08:03pieces for an aging Yon.
08:05It's kind of echoing what you and I just said.
08:07Kendrick Perkins is a dumbass.
08:08F Kendrick Perkins.
08:11He'd be saying some dumbass S.
08:13F Kendrick Perkins.
08:13No way I'd bring Giannis in.
08:16That dude is poison.
08:18I don't...
08:18I don't know about that.
08:19I think he's just aging
08:20and he's injury prone.
08:21He seems like a good enough guy.
08:23Okay.
08:23I would definitely send Alfred and Tori.
08:26I would not send Alperin or Tori.
08:28No.
08:28It feels like those two Aaron brothers.
08:33Yeah.
08:33the Game of Thrones prequel.
08:37The uh...
08:37Oh and the uh...
08:38House of the Dragons.
08:39House of the Dragons.
08:40There's two...
08:41There's twins
08:41and they're named Aaron
08:42and Aaron.
08:43Ugh.
08:43One is spelled with an E
08:45and one is spelled with an A.
08:46Yeah.
08:46Or is it Eric and Eric?
08:47It's Eric and Eric.
08:48I don't know.
08:48Which is awesome
08:50when it's in a book.
08:51I get it.
08:51Yeah.
08:51It's easier.
08:52When you're trying to watch...
08:53watch it on television
08:54and they're both named Eric and Eric.
08:57Yeah.
08:57Very annoying.
08:58Uh...
08:58List...
08:58Listening to the Perkins trade
09:00made me think of Billy Madison.
09:01We're all dumber
09:02for having to listen to that.
09:03Who says no?
09:05I like...
09:06Look, I like stuff like that.
09:08I like throwing...
09:08little trade things
09:09especially because
09:10the trade deadline's
09:10coming up pretty soon.
09:12I mean, this is...
09:13Well, the next week...
09:13This is going to be a topic.
09:15I mean, the Rockets
09:16are playing better basketball
09:17but they are far...
09:18from a perfect basketball team
09:20right now.
09:21You know, there may be moves
09:22that can aid.
09:24Um...
09:23With all these savings
09:25from the KD trade
09:26you can overpay
09:27for Giannis
09:27and Perkins.
09:28Perk probably...
09:30Okay, the text got chopped up.
09:32I don't know what you mean
09:32about the savings
09:33from the KD trade.
09:33Overpaying for...
09:36I guess that's the problem
09:37there.
09:37There's two different
09:37dynamics here.
09:38I guess over...
09:38Overpaying would be...
09:40Overpaying is giving...
09:41Is giving...
09:42Those players...
09:43Yeah.
09:43And plus picks,
09:45remember he said.
09:46Right, plus picks.
09:46That's the problem
09:47is that it's not...
09:48It's not...
09:48You're changing your team
09:50substantially mid through...
09:52Midway through the year
09:53by the way.
09:53And it's not a...
09:55Like, to me,
09:56it's not a slam dunk
09:57that, oh yeah,
09:58this wins you the chance.
09:58championship this year
10:00because you still have
10:01the other guys
10:01in your young core
10:02trying to develop
10:03into the...
10:03their roles.
10:04You bring in
10:05Ted Akumpo in
10:05and you're getting rid
10:07of Tari Eason.
10:08It just...
10:08Even in the short term,
10:10I don't think it's as much
10:11of a slam dunk
10:11as Kendrick Perkins
10:12makes it seem.
10:13It's...
10:13It seems like...
10:14You know what they're
10:14slam dunk for?
10:15It's a slam dunk
10:16for in Ted Akumpo.
10:17If he...
10:18Oh yeah.
10:18Somewhere competitive.
10:19It's great for him.
10:20I don't think it's the best
10:21thing for the Rockets.
10:22What would the starting five be?
10:23I guess...
10:23I guess it would be
10:24KD,
10:25Atena Kumpo,
10:26Jabari.
10:27I mean,
10:27that is a rangy,
10:28long front.
10:28I will say that.
10:30Yeah.
10:30And then your backcourt
10:31is what?
10:31I guess...
10:32I'm in Thompson.
10:32You probably got a Kogi
10:33in the...
10:33in there
10:34and you're bringing
10:34Reed Shepard
10:35off the bench still.
10:36Yep.
10:36Aaron Holiday,
10:37whatnot.
10:38Yeah,
10:38I don't know.
10:38I just don't feel like
10:39that's...
10:40You've got two top ten
10:41players when both guys
10:42are healthy.
10:42I just like the depth
10:43and the...
10:43the youth
10:44and the assets
10:45that you have
10:46to continue
10:46to build
10:47in the future years.
10:48I guess...
10:49Oh,
10:49this would be the question.
10:51Okay,
10:51if you change it
10:52and it's just
10:53Alper and Shane Coon...
10:53for Antetokounmpo
10:55straight up.
10:57Oh,
10:57okay.
10:57Well,
10:57that's interesting.
10:58Like,
10:58how...
10:58how do you feel?
10:59Like,
10:59do you feel
11:00that Alper and Shane Coon...
11:01That's a simpler...
11:03You know...
11:03And if you just
11:04look at it
11:05through that lens,
11:06all right,
11:07what's gonna
11:07most likely...
11:08potentially win you
11:09a championship
11:10in the next couple years
11:11versus the long-term health?
11:13of the...
11:14I mean,
11:14not to get too nerdy,
11:16you'd have to throw
11:16a few more guys in there
11:17just to make
11:17the salaries match up.
11:18Right.
11:19You know,
11:19but if the crux
11:20of the trade...
11:21Yeah,
11:21just hypothetically,
11:22that's what it is.
11:23...for Giannis.
11:23That's a good tender pull.
11:26That makes you think
11:26a little bit more.
11:27Yeah,
11:27for sure.
11:28Maybe,
11:28why don't you...
11:28go through your little
11:29NBA trade calculator
11:30there and figure out
11:31something that...
11:33I hate the...
11:33NBA trade...
11:34Well, then,
11:35ask one of the
11:35smart people we know.
11:36I'll ask Reggie to do it.
11:37I bet Reggie's
11:38a huge NBA trade...
11:38trade machine nerd.
11:39Okay, yeah.
11:40I bet he'll do it.
11:42That's what I meant to say.
11:43Yeah.
11:43When I...
11:43I was saying
11:44one of the smart people.
11:45I should have just said,
11:46ask Reginald.
11:46Yes.
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