00:00You said earlier that there's a left-wing network to attack, to docks, to assault and
00:06make it impossible for ICE officers to do their job. You told my colleague just now
00:11that there's an investigation going on into that network.
00:16MR. Yes.
00:17So if everything that you say is true, how does being part of that network justify being shot?
00:25MR. Well, being part of the network doesn't justify being shot,
00:29but ramming an ICE officer with your car, that's what justifies being shot.
00:33It's not a good thing, by the way, but when you force somebody to engage in self-defense,
00:37it's almost a preposterous question.
00:39I'm not saying that funding some of this stuff justifies capital punishment.
00:44Nobody would suggest that.
00:46The reason this woman is dead is because she tried to ram somebody with her car,
00:51and that guy acted in self-defense.
00:53That is why she lost her life, and that is the tragedy.
00:56Now, there may be other violations of the law and other penalties that are associated with those violations of the law.
01:03For example, if you are funding violence against our law enforcement officers, I'm not a prosecutor.
01:10My guess is that's not the sort of thing that earns capital punishment, but it should sure as hell earn you a few years in prison
01:15if you're funding the effort to try to insult our law enforcement officers.
01:19What is, I'm sorry guys, what's going on here?
01:23You guys are meant to report the truth.
01:26How have you let yourself become agents of propaganda of a radical fringe that's making it harder for us to enforce our laws?
01:33You just asked me a question that presumed that the reason why this woman died is because she was engaged in legitimate protest.
01:41She tried to run somebody over with her car, and the guy defended himself when that happened.
01:45Next question.
01:46The investigation is still ongoing.
01:48I said next question.
01:49Mr. Vice President, you presumably have watched the video yourself.
01:52There's not the slightest doubt in your mind, having viewed it, that the victim, you still believe that she deliberately tried to ram him despite seeing this video?
02:04Mr. Look, I don't know what is in a person's heart or in a person's head, and obviously we're not going to get the chance to ask this woman what was going on.
02:11What I am certain of is that she violated the law.
02:13What I'm certain of is that that officer had every reason to think that he was under very serious threat for injury or, in fact, his life.
02:21What I'm certain of is that she accelerated in a way where she ran into the guy.
02:27I don't know what was in her heart and what was in her head, but I know that she violated the law, and I know that officer was acting in self-defense.
02:34It raises an interesting point, though.
02:35Look, if people want to say that we should have a legitimate debate about, you know, what was she really doing, right?
02:41Was she panicking when she drove into this officer or was she actually trying to ram him?
02:46That's a reasonable conversation.
02:49What's not reasonable is for so many of you to plaster all over the media that this was an innocent woman and that the ICE agent committed murder,
02:56which is what many of you have said explicitly and some of you have said implicitly.
03:01That's what I have an objection to.
03:03The idea that this was not justified is absurd, and I think everybody knows it in their heart.
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