- 7 months ago
A day after Delhi High Court suspended rape convict Kuldeep Sengar's jail term, the Unnao survivor and her mother met the Leader of Opposition in the Lok Sabha, Rahul Gandhi, at Sonia Gandhi’s residence at 10 Janpath in Delhi.
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00:00Let me ask some big questions once again tonight.
00:02How is an MLA not a public servant?
00:05Remember, because Sengar was deemed not to be a public servant,
00:09that is why the offence against him has been reduced.
00:15A life term becoming seven years in one stroke,
00:19will Sengar therefore walk out of jail too soon?
00:23And who then guarantees the survivor's safety?
00:26Is therefore the survivor's plea for justice going to be unheard?
00:30Joining me now, Vikram Singh is former DGP Uttar Pradesh.
00:34I'm also joined by Yogita Bhayana, women's rights activist,
00:37who has been taking up the cause of the Unnav victim.
00:41And Ashutosh Srivastava is advocate at the Supreme Court.
00:45I want to come to you, Yogita, first,
00:47because you went with the victim today to meet Rahul Gandhi and Sonia Gandhi.
00:53What did you ask them for?
00:54Is it true that you've asked that the victim be allowed to stay in a Congress-ruled state
00:59because you fear that if Mr. Sengar comes out of jail,
01:03he will target the victim?
01:04Is that true?
01:05I don't know.
01:13These things are, I think, not exactly what we asked for.
01:17Basically, we were called by his office because we were trying to, you know,
01:23kind of ask from the Home Minister, from the Prime Minister,
01:26from the people in charge of the country to kind of give justice to his daughter.
01:31And we received a call.
01:33I mean, she received a call from Rahul Gandhi's office that he wants to meet.
01:36And she said, I want to meet him and I want to tell him that if he can help me getting justice.
01:41And I tagged Long, definitely.
01:44When he met, he met her alone.
01:46And then, I don't know what, but we got to know that she asked,
01:50she was concerned about her safety.
01:52And he was equally, you know, kind of wanting to know what exactly she wants from him.
01:57So she asked that she is not safe and she wants safety and security.
02:01I think that's what must have transpired between them that, you know,
02:05the case should be shifted or she should be shifted because she doesn't feel safe in this particular city.
02:11You know, yesterday, Ms. Bayana, you know, yesterday, Ms. Bayana,
02:16the court said, Kuldeep Singh Senghar can't be kept in Jain
02:20only because of the threat perception of the victim in Unnao rape case.
02:24How do you respond to that?
02:29I mean, what all she has suffered,
02:33we don't have to even repeat the horrendous journey she has lived.
02:37Her lawyer was killed, her aunts were killed.
02:39She met up with an ex, or she, she, you know,
02:43definitely was tried to be killed.
02:45And she was in hospital, she was critical, she was on ventilator.
02:49She was there for six months in critical care.
02:52She has her bones broken even today.
02:55So, I mean, she definitely has threats.
02:57She has family members.
02:58They don't have protection.
03:00She has protection.
03:00Her husband was suicidal when I spoke to him yesterday
03:03when she came out of the courtroom
03:05and she was crying continuously.
03:06Her husband was saying,
03:07he will commit suicide.
03:08And I did a mistake of, you know,
03:11kind of marrying someone who survived a rape
03:13and the kind of situation.
03:14But he is a brave man and we try to console him
03:17because they are going through a lot of mental issues.
03:20The entire family, the mother has no security.
03:23The sisters, they are two sisters, one brother.
03:25So many family members don't have security.
03:29So her threat is genuine.
03:30Her safety concerns are genuine.
03:32She has got the security.
03:35But what can happen in this country, we both know.
03:38Now she is with me.
03:39You can talk to her also.
03:41I'll give her this thing.
03:42I'll give her this thing to you.
04:12I'll give her this thing.
04:25foreign
04:55So we will die and we will die and the case will die.
04:58If our son will die, we will die.
05:01So we will die.
05:03You think that if we will die, if we will die from jail, then we will target again.
05:22So that you want to give them a protection?
05:25The court has allowed us to live in 5 km and the police will give them the details.
05:38We will give them the truth and the truth and the truth will give them the truth and the truth will give them the truth.
05:42but I don't know if I was the one who will be my side of the people and the people
05:52and the people will be my side of them and will be my side of the people and I will be my side of the people
06:06oh
06:08it
06:10okay
06:12yeah
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06:46that
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06:53foreign
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08:01foreign
08:07foreign
08:17Mehmood Paracha, you are the lawyer for the survivor.
08:39Will you go and appeal against what the High Court has done?
08:43Suspended the sentence, a life sentence to seven years.
08:46He is already convicted in a murder case.
08:49But will you go to the Supreme Court, Mr. Paracha?
08:51Most definitely Rajdeep.
08:57But see the odds against this poor victim.
09:01She has got, and I can give you proofs of that and reasoning for that,
09:08what I am going to say now.
09:09Central Government is working against her with its full might.
09:14U.P. State Government is working against her with its full might.
09:18The CBI is working against her with its full might.
09:21And this entire network of gangsters is working against her, which is backed by a very powerful…
09:29On what basis, sir?
09:30If I may ask, on what basis are you saying the center is working against her?
09:34On what basis Mr. Sengar has been convicted?
09:39Yes, sir.
09:40Are you saying the judges were influenced by the center?
09:43Yes, most definitely.
09:48Whatever I will say, I will say with certain proofs.
09:53The judgment convicting Mr. Kuldeep Singh Sengar observes that the IO was hand in glove with Mr. Kuldeep Sengar, IO of the CBI.
10:04And he helped him by bringing in evidence in his favor in the charge sheet.
10:11And he did not investigate in a proper manner.
10:15Now, CBI is under central government as far as I remember last.
10:19Right?
10:20And no IO would be able to influence or do such a thing for which there is a mention in the judgment itself, the trial court judgment,
10:30without the help and support of people at the helm of the affairs.
10:36This is plain logic.
10:38This case when it was being argued, this appeal giving him this extraordinary relief,
10:44which is, I can write books on why this judgment should be criticized to the hilt, but I am not going to do that.
10:51The lawyer, for the first time, any lawyer appearing on behalf of CBI, opposed with some substance, was this appeal.
11:01That lawyer was removed, ultimately.
11:04So, is it proof enough?
11:08If it is not, there is no mention in this judgment why that lawyer was asked.
11:14Asked to go out of this case or he resigned himself.
11:20There is no clarity about that in this judgment, but this is a crucial point.
11:24Connecting the dots to the central government.
11:26Central government and Uttar Pradesh government.
11:29Right.
11:29Hired best of the best lawyers in the Supreme Court to request the Supreme Court to remove the security of the victim as well as the family.
11:39They were successful for the family and the family was attacked.
11:44So, that is the proof for the Uttar Pradesh government and the central government, which I want to bring to the notice of people at large in this country.
11:53Giving us, if even…
11:54Now…
11:55If what you are saying is true, it is the most shocking thing that I have heard in a long time.
12:01You are claiming that the center and the U.P. government and the CBI were hand in glove with Senghar.
12:08Am I correct?
12:09Am I correct?
12:10Am I correct?
12:11Am I correct?
12:12Am I correct?
12:13Yes.
12:14Okay.
12:15They were and they are.
12:16Now, I would show you the title of this case.
12:20See, the title of the case is Kuldeep Singh Senghar versus Central Bureau of Investigation.
12:26Ji.
12:27The 90% of the arguments were addressed by who?
12:30The lawyer of the victim.
12:31That is me.
12:32CBI only adopted them.
12:36And that is the fault of that poor lawyer who was not allowed to continue in this matter.
12:42Do you need any other proof?
12:45CBI.
12:46It is the CBI who is supposed to challenge this judgment.
12:50The role of the victim comes is secondary.
12:53It is state versus the accused and state versus the convicted.
12:57Where is CBI till now?
12:59Yeah.
13:00CBI instead of taking action against the I.O.
13:03Against whom there were strictures by the trial court.
13:07They moved an application in the High Court for asking the High Court to remove the strictures against the I.O.
13:14Do you need more proof?
13:16These…
13:17So, I am staked against…
13:19Sir, this poor girl is staked against all these people.
13:23Central government, state government…
13:24The cartel of…
13:25You are saying this is one daughter of India…
13:27I have to be…
13:28This is one daughter of India against the entire system is what you are saying.
13:33The entire system in a way, according to you, has come together…
13:37No, no, no.
13:38To protect a rapist…
13:39One…
13:40Who…
13:41Yes, a final point.
13:43Go ahead, Mr. Prajja.
13:44No, not just a rapist.
13:45Please, Rajdeep.
13:48He is not just a rapist.
13:50He is murdered.
13:51He raped the girl to hide and to force the family.
13:56Not to complain.
13:58She was kidnapped.
14:00He conspired to have her kidnapped and gang raped.
14:05Matter does not finish there.
14:07He…
14:08He…
14:09After that…
14:10They…
14:11The father of the girl…
14:12Was murdered…
14:14In police station…
14:15By the police officers.
14:18The matter does not finish there.
14:20The girl…
14:21The girl…
14:22And her lawyer…
14:23See…
14:24Lawyers are scared to appear in this case.
14:26Lawyer was killed.
14:27In that accident…
14:28Two of her family members…
14:29Lady family members were killed.
14:31The matter does not finish there.
14:33As…
14:34As…
14:35Early as…
14:36Or…
14:37As recently as…
14:38Two weeks from now…
14:39The…
14:40Husband of the girl…
14:42Was…
14:43Attacked…
14:44And…
14:45He was…
14:46Brutally…
14:47Assaulted…
14:48And…
14:49He…
14:50Is not even able to walk properly.
14:51As of…
14:52Now…
14:53There are so many injuries on his.
14:54So…
14:55Do you think…
14:56It will be very easy for us to approach the Supreme Court?
14:58The entire case would…
14:59It is the responsibility of the CBI.
15:01And I am sure…
15:02CBI will…
15:03Make…
15:04All the efforts…
15:05Best of the lawyers will be…
15:06Engaged…
15:07To make sure…
15:08That the Supreme Court…
15:09Does not grant us…
15:10Relief against this order.
15:11So…
15:12I have to be extremely careful.
15:13Take one…
15:14One…
15:15Misfortune of this girl.
15:16I am calling this…
15:17Disfortune…
15:18With abundant caution.
15:19This judgment…
15:20Was reserved for three months.
15:21Three months…
15:22Rajneet Sahab.
15:24Incidentally…
15:26With the…
15:27Bad luck…
15:28Which this girl has…
15:29Obviously…
15:30Figuratively speaking…
15:31You are saying…
15:32Daughter of India.
15:33She is just a poor girl.
15:35This judgment…
15:36Just comes one evening…
15:37Before…
15:38The Supreme Court…
15:39Goes for vacation.
15:40So that…
15:41Enough time is there.
15:42And I am not saying anything…
15:43Else…
15:44For…
15:45For the…
15:46Mr. Senga…
15:47To come out…
15:48And we have no time…
15:49To appeal in the Supreme Court…
15:50That is our bad luck.
15:51That is also…
15:52A matter of…
15:53Bad luck…
15:54Which this girl…
15:55Mr. Pratcha…
15:56May I…
15:57May I just stop you…
15:58May I just stop you…
15:59For a moment…
16:00For granting this suspension.
16:01Please…
16:02Yeah…
16:03Okay…
16:04You want to…
16:05You want to tell us…
16:06You see…
16:07Because what is astonishing…
16:08The definition of a public servant…
16:10Seems different…
16:11In different criminal laws…
16:12Under Poxo…
16:13The very fact…
16:14That he is deemed…
16:15Not to be a public servant…
16:17Has enabled him…
16:18To lessen his offense…
16:20Am I correct…
16:21Mr. Pratcha…
16:22Is that what has happened…
16:23Is that the reasoning…
16:24Of the court…
16:25When they reduced his sentence…
16:26Suspended his sentence…
16:27I mean…
16:28If a…
16:29Former MLA…
16:30Is not a public servant…
16:31I don't know…
16:32Am I correct…
16:37Mr. Pratcha…
16:38See…
16:39The reason…
16:40Now…
16:41You will have to…
16:42That is one of the main reasons…
16:43But…
16:44The…
16:45The larger point here is…
16:46Larger point has to be understood…
16:48By your viewers…
16:49Rajdeep sahab…
16:50And the larger point is…
16:52These hyper-technicalities…
16:55Cannot…
16:56Cannot be gone into…
16:57I can give you…
16:58If you have some time…
16:59I can give you…
17:00The…
17:01The…
17:02The arguments…
17:03Which we advanced…
17:04Which were not considered…
17:05For the reasons…
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17:07That…
17:08Because we said…
17:09That…
17:10There are other sections…
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17:16What is mentioned is…
17:17That…
17:18The…
17:19Punishment is…
17:20Up to…
17:21The rest of the life…
17:22Of the convict…
17:23Right…
17:24And…
17:25In some other…
17:26Places…
17:27It's only mentioned…
17:28Life sentence…
17:29So…
17:30The criticism…
17:31Of this judgment…
17:32This…
17:33This…
17:34This…
17:35This…
17:36This…
17:37This…
17:38This…
17:39Was made as the main issue…
17:40Which is…
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17:42Incorrect…
17:43Because…
17:44We had pointed out…
17:45Other offenses…
17:46Where…
17:47In parallel offenses…
17:48In…
17:49Having a dominant position…
17:50Of the victim…
17:51He is also liable…
17:52For punishment…
17:54Up to…
17:55The rest of the natural…
17:56Natural life…
17:57So…
17:58It is a hype…
17:59And…
18:00And…
18:01Moreover…
18:02The main thing is…
18:03Pracha…
18:04Pracha…
18:05These things…
18:06Cannot be gone into…
18:07For…
18:08I've taken your point…
18:09You know…
18:10Let…
18:11Rajdeep…
18:12Just give me…
18:13Two…
18:14Two…
18:15Three…
18:16Is better than most…
18:17Go ahead…
18:18The main…
18:19The…
18:20Yes…
18:21Yes…
18:22The main reason…
18:23Is…
18:24That…
18:25This…
18:26Mr. Kuldeep Singh Sengar…
18:27Deserves mercy of the court…
18:29And…
18:30Therefore…
18:31This discretionary mercy…
18:32Has been granted to him…
18:33Now…
18:34My last point is…
18:35If…
18:36Mr. Kuldeep Singh Sengar…
18:37Deserves…
18:38The mercy…
18:39Of the honorable court…
18:40Division bench…
18:41Of the court…
18:42Then…
18:43I don't think…
18:44There is…
18:45Who are accused…
18:46In this country…
18:47Child rapist…
18:48Pedophile…
18:49Or…
18:50Any…
18:51Gang rapist…
18:52Who will not deserve…
18:54This mercy…
18:55Of the court…
18:56Because…
18:57It's purely…
18:58A discretionary…
18:59Power…
19:00Of the court…
19:01It is not…
19:02Right…
19:03The…
19:04The…
19:05As a matter of right…
19:06It cannot be granted…
19:07Because…
19:08Jail is the norm…
19:09After conviction…
19:10Bail is an exception…
19:11When you are…
19:12A person…
19:13Who's…
19:14Under trial…
19:15Jail is exception…
19:16So…
19:17That's my final point…
19:18I take your…
19:19I…
19:20I think you made a…
19:21I think you made a…
19:22Very…
19:23Very powerful case…
19:24This is…
19:25From what you are saying…
19:26A clear…
19:27Failure…
19:28Of our criminal justice system…
19:29Of a kind…
19:30That I have rarely heard of…
19:31If all the facts…
19:32That you are saying…
19:33Are out there now…
19:34In the public domain…
19:35Last…
19:36Last…
19:37Last line…
19:38Rajdeep…
19:39Last line…
19:40Last line is…
19:41This matter…
19:42They have approached…
19:43Mr. Rahul Gandhi…
19:44As leader of the opposition…
19:45Not as a congress leader…
19:46We have to be…
19:47Very careful about this…
19:48This is a battle…
19:49Between people of India…
19:50And our institutions…
19:52If it is made…
19:53Congress versus BJP…
19:54That will be the worst thing…
19:56Which can happen to this poor girl…
19:57Please…
19:58That's why…
19:59I have not brought any…
20:00It is not Rahul Gandhi…
20:01Sir…
20:02Mr. Pracha…
20:03It is leader of the opposition…
20:04I have not brought any…
20:05BJP…
20:06Or congress leaders…
20:07On the show…
20:08I have not made it…
20:09Congress versus BJP…
20:10This is about…
20:11A young woman of India…
20:12Who deserves justice…
20:13I am not accusing you of anything…
20:14Rajdeep…
20:15Yeah…
20:16Okay…
20:17I have got your point…
20:18Let…
20:19Let…
20:20As people of India…
20:21Mahmud Pracha…
20:22Is saying…
20:23This is a clear…
20:24Miscarriage of justice…
20:25Do you agree or not?
20:26Because…
20:27All those facts…
20:28Clearly show…
20:29That every effort…
20:30Has been made…
20:31To protect someone…
20:32Who is a rapist…
20:33And a murderer…
20:34Do you agree with that?
20:36See…
20:37If I take my…
20:39Learned friends…
20:40You know…
20:41Submissions…
20:42Obviously…
20:43It makes it…
20:44Very very serious issue…
20:45Obviously…
20:46And I am sure…
20:47Now…
20:48He is challenging…
20:49This order…
20:50Before the Supreme Court…
20:51Now…
20:52So far as Supreme Court…
20:53Is concerned…
20:54We know that…
20:55This matter…
20:56Was in UP…
20:57And this was transferred…
20:58From UP…
20:59To Delhi…
21:00By the same Supreme Court…
21:01Only…
21:02For…
21:03The protection…
21:04Of the victim…
21:05And also…
21:06For the…
21:07You know…
21:08That…
21:09That the…
21:10You know…
21:11The witnesses…
21:12Is not…
21:13Campered by anybody…
21:14And that was the reason…
21:15But do you agree…
21:16Prima facie…
21:17It's a miscarriage of justice…
21:18Mr. Srivastav…
21:19Do you agree…
21:20It's a miscarriage of justice…
21:21See…
21:22See…
21:23As…
21:24Now…
21:25So far as…
21:26This matter…
21:27What the Delhi High Court…
21:28Has stated…
21:29Today…
21:30In their judgment…
21:31That…
21:32You know…
21:33Section 5C…
21:34Of the POXO…
21:35Which says…
21:36That a public servant…
21:37Now…
21:38The public servant…
21:39The definition…
21:40There is…
21:41Who has the authority…
21:42Over another person…
21:44So now…
21:45Section 5C…
21:46Says…
21:47About the people…
21:48Like…
21:49You know…
21:50I can give you some examples…
21:51Like…
21:52You know…
21:53The police official…
21:54Or maybe the jail authority…
21:55Where the person is imprisoned…
21:56Or maybe the hospital…
21:57Staff…
21:58Where the…
21:59It does not include…
22:00An all-powerful MLA…
22:01For God's sake…
22:02It does not include…
22:03An all-powerful MLA…
22:04This is where…
22:05The discretionary power…
22:06And the misuse…
22:07If you…
22:08Vikram Singh…
22:09Let me come to Vikram Singh…
22:10Because Vikram Singh…
22:11From what Mr. Pracha is saying…
22:13Even the CBI…
22:14Has much to answer for…
22:16The CBI…
22:17Has much…
22:18The so-called…
22:19Countries…
22:20Top investigating agency…
22:21The Uttar Pradesh government…
22:22The centre…
22:23All seem to…
22:24In some way…
22:25Have created…
22:26A situation…
22:27If Mr. Pracha's words…
22:28Are to be believed…
22:29To ensure…
22:30That…
22:31Kuldeep Sengar…
22:32Gets away…
22:37Mr. Sardesai…
22:38Good evening…
22:39Good evening…
22:40I want to say…
22:41What the basic…
22:42And my experience of…
22:43Portcraft has been…
22:44Yes please…
22:45Can you hear me?
22:46Yeah…
22:47Go ahead…
22:48Rajdeep…
22:49Can you hear me?
22:50Yes…
22:51Yes…
22:52I have to say…
22:53Because there is…
22:54Logical consistency…
22:55In merit…
22:56In what he has said…
22:57Has the CBI…
22:58Investigated…
22:59Any cognizance…
23:00Been taken…
23:01Or any action…
23:02And if not…
23:03That is even…
23:04A louder question…
23:05Secondly…
23:06The CBI advocate…
23:07Who was doing wonderfully…
23:08Well…
23:09And to change the horses…
23:10Midstream…
23:11Also requires…
23:12A lot of explanation…
23:13At the end of the day…
23:14When the trial court…
23:15Convicts…
23:16And then the superior court…
23:17In fact…
23:18Gives…
23:19To Kuldeep Sengar…
23:20What action…
23:21Do they propose…
23:22And do they…
23:23Are they even going to…
23:24The Supreme Court in appeal…
23:25What Mr. Pratcha has said…
23:26I do hope…
23:27And I hope I am wrong…
23:28That they should go…
23:29And they will go…
23:30But if they don't go…
23:31Well again…
23:32It is a loud question…
23:33And the allegations…
23:34Which Mr. Mahmood Pratcha has made…
23:35There is…
23:36Will be a lot of merit…
23:37And substance…
23:38And to the last point…
23:39I would say…
23:40Who is the public servant…
23:41A person who draws his salary…
23:43From the government treasury…
23:44And also…
23:45When there are other case laws…
23:47Narsimha Rao versus Union of India…
23:49And other cases…
23:50Where it has been decided…
23:51Who is a public servant…
23:52And then…
23:53The lower court has said…
23:54That he is a public servant…
23:55And then…
23:56Presuming he is not a public servant…
23:57Then…
23:58Opposition of trust…
23:59Or authority…
24:00Also…
24:01Is the sub clause…
24:02In which he would have been convicted…
24:03Obviously…
24:04We have been blind…
24:05To all…
24:06The misdeveners…
24:07Of Kuldeep Sengar…
24:08And have covered ourselves…
24:10In a manner…
24:11That we see…
24:12Absolutely…
24:13Nothing…
24:14Adverse…
24:15As far as the…
24:16Depredations…
24:17Of Kuldeep Sengar…
24:18Are concerned…
24:19And…
24:20We give him a long rope…
24:21Well…
24:22I had expected…
24:23A lot more…
24:24And to say…
24:25To quote you…
24:26There could have been…
24:27A worse…
24:28Miscarriage…
24:29Of justice…
24:30Than this…
24:31When Kuldeep Sengar…
24:32Is out…
24:33And then…
24:34The perversion…
24:35Again…
24:36Of the UP minister…
24:37Saying…
24:38He…
24:39Mafia…
24:40Is out…
24:41The perversion…
24:42Which he can stoop to…
24:43And the depredations…
24:44And the threatening…
24:45That he can indulge in…
24:46That…
24:47Of course…
24:48Is also a matter…
24:49To be recorded…
24:50Is absolutely black…
24:51And therefore…
24:52I would say…
24:53I feel very sorry…
24:54For the survivor…
24:55And her family…
24:56Yogita…
24:57Bayana…
24:58Are you all going to…
25:00Carry forward…
25:01This fight…
25:02I presume…
25:03I heard from Mr. Pracha…
25:04That you intend…
25:05To go to the Supreme Court…
25:06Does…
25:07The victim…
25:08Have…
25:09The…
25:10The spirit…
25:11We spoke to her…
25:12A short while ago…
25:13To go through…
25:14This prolonged fight…
25:15Against a powerful…
25:16Politician…
25:17When the system…
25:18Seems ranged…
25:19Against her…
25:20She…
25:21She is super brave…
25:24Let me tell you…
25:25I have met her…
25:26When she met her with an accident…
25:27And rather…
25:28She was…
25:29She…
25:30The accident was done…
25:31To kill her…
25:32And she survived…
25:33She…
25:34She survived…
25:35To fight…
25:36This battle…
25:37Definitely…
25:38She was getting on track…
25:39We were…
25:40With her…
25:41Like…
25:42She was trying to get some training…
25:43Skill trainings…
25:44And we were trying to help her with that…
25:45She was trying to live a normal life…
25:47With her husband…
25:48And with two kids…
25:49She was trying…
25:50But we never knew…
25:51This will happen…
25:52Though we had apprehension…
25:53And Mr. Paracha…
25:54Would also say…
25:55That he had apprehensions…
25:56But we never knew…
25:57This grave injustice…
25:58Will happen…
25:59Like a movie scene…
26:00You know…
26:01What we see in movies…
26:02This can…
26:03Just…
26:04I mean…
26:05I still have to pinch myself…
26:06To believe…
26:07That this really can happen…
26:08You know…
26:09And the grounds…
26:10Are laughable…
26:11And ironical…
26:12Like…
26:13You can really get angry…
26:14And at the same time…
26:15You can laugh…
26:16Like…
26:17You know…
26:18What grounds…
26:19They have granted him…
26:20This…
26:21This kind of a mercy…
26:22So called…
26:23To say that…
26:24So…
26:25I mean…
26:26She is brave…
26:27She is no doubt…
26:28Okay…
26:29She is braver than…
26:30So many injuries on her body…
26:31Like…
26:32Not only that…
26:33She is mentally…
26:34Anybody would give up…
26:35Because she…
26:36She was…
26:37She was critical for six months…
26:38She was a ventilator…
26:39Sure…
26:40She was in ICU…
26:41Her whole body is derailed…
26:42And she still wants to continue…
26:44I mean…
26:45We are just being with her…
26:46And I…
26:47I get lot of inspiration…
26:48She will never give up…
26:49And we…
26:50At least I am with her…
26:51And I want…
26:52Through your channel…
26:53To appeal…
26:54That we…
26:55Need to stand with her…
26:56If this can happen…
26:57In this country…
26:58We…
26:59Don't deserve to call ourselves…
27:00Humans…
27:01This is…
27:02Mockery of democracy…
27:03Mockery of women…
27:04In this country…
27:05Mockery of victim…
27:06In this country…
27:07And…
27:08You can see…
27:09How…
27:10How…
27:11How this…
27:12This guy from…
27:13Uttarakhand is out…
27:14In…
27:15Ankita Bhandari case…
27:16How…
27:17Virj Bhushan is out…
27:18How…
27:19How…
27:20Everybody…
27:21In every case…
27:22Is getting away…
27:23In the secular party…
27:24I am so sorry to say…
27:25We never went to meet…
27:26Rahul Gandhi…
27:27Because we…
27:28We…
27:29We…
27:30Want Congress support…
27:31We want…
27:32Definitely…
27:33As Mr. Paracha said…
27:34He is a leader of opposition…
27:35We…
27:36We…
27:37Went as leader of opposition…
27:38We want him to raise this…
27:39And we…
27:40We spoke about other cases…
27:41And we wanted him to raise the voice…
27:42Right…
27:43And I particularly said…
27:44That you should…
27:45You know…
27:46Speak about women issues…
27:47That's exactly what we want in this country…
27:48Justice for all the women…
27:49She is not the only one…
27:50But…
27:51There are so many women suffering like this…
27:52And I think…
27:53This…
27:54Entire…
27:55Last half an hour…
27:56Is a wake up call…
27:57If you haven't woken up…
27:58Then you jolly well now…
28:00I want to thank my guests…
28:01I particularly want to thank the victim…
28:03For having come and…
28:04Expressed her views…
28:05It's not easy…
28:06I thank all of you…
28:07I thank all of you…
28:08For joining me…
28:09And I want to give up…
28:10My take again…
28:11Let's be honest…
28:12Cut the crap…
28:14India's criminal justice system…
28:16Is broken…
28:17It takes years and years…
28:19To get justice in our courts…
28:21And as we are seeing…
28:23In this…
28:24Unnaw rape and murder case…
28:25In high profile cases…
28:27It becomes even more difficult…
28:30Sometimes…
28:31Since there are…
28:32Political pressures…
28:34Be it at the centre…
28:35Be it at states…
28:36Including the so-called…
28:38Central Bureau of Investigation…
28:40That adds another dimension…
28:42To the problem of judicial delays…
28:44We talk loudly…
28:46Of beti bachau…
28:47Beti padau…
28:49And then you find…
28:50A rape victim like this…
28:51Waging a lonely war…
28:53Struggling to get justice…
28:55There are no…
28:57Quick fix solutions…
28:58Unfortunately…
28:59No silver bullets…
29:01Because the system…
29:02Is corroded…
29:04But while I don't…
29:05Have a solution…
29:06To judicial lethargy…
29:07And indeed…
29:08The functioning…
29:09Of the criminal prosecution…
29:11System…
29:12In this country…
29:13And the politics…
29:14That plays out…
29:15May I at least…
29:16Offer some…
29:17Well-meaning advice…
29:18To some of our netas…
29:20Particularly…
29:21Mr. Rajbhar…
29:22Who was laughing…
29:23And mocking…
29:24At this victim today…
29:25For God's sake…
29:27If you have any…
29:29Iota…
29:30Of empathy…
29:32Stand up…
29:33For victims…
29:34And stand up…
29:35For their rights…
29:36Mr. Rajbhar…
29:37Ya kursi chhodo…
29:38To the Yogi Adityanath…
29:39Government also…
29:40Are these the ministers…
29:42That you want…
29:43Is this the way…
29:44That you are going…
29:45To actually…
29:46Ensure…
29:47That a woman's…
29:48Dignity…
29:49Is maintained…
29:50And yes…
29:52For all the talk…
29:53Of these fast track…
29:54Courts…
29:55And after the Nirbhaya…
29:56Case…
29:57That we will now…
29:58Have…
29:59A system in place…
30:00That protects women…
30:01The truth is…
30:02We don't…
30:03And we better…
30:04Get used to that fact…
30:06Talk comes easy…
30:08Action is not…
30:10I hope…
30:11That Kuldeep Sengar…
30:13Gets his…
30:14Just desserts…
30:15A L face…
30:16That is just…
30:17Let's take a look…
30:18To a half…
30:19To a half…
30:20To a half…
30:21To a half…
30:22That is what…
30:23That is what…
30:25To in place…
30:26To a half…
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