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00:00Welcome to Antiques Down Under.
00:29We're on the search for incredible antiques and collectibles.
00:32From private collections, historic homes, backyard sheds, museums and galleries.
00:37We'll be talking to the experts, the custodians and the passionate collectors.
00:42Coming up on this episode of Antiques Down Under, I take a look at the results of mudlarking in Australia.
00:49Everyone remembers the band Kiss and Claudia is in for a surprise.
00:54One of Australia's favourite sports, cricket.
00:59I take a look at an amazing collection.
01:03And Lee discovers the history of wealth, Love Spoons.
01:06Today, I'm with Eric, a mudlarker.
01:18What's mudlarking?
01:19Mudlarking started back many centuries ago in London,
01:23when young children would go through the mud that was left at low tide
01:28to get rope, glass, metals to sell so they could feed themselves.
01:33These days, mudlarkers are after historical artefacts.
01:38And Eric has a marvellous collection of what he has collected, mudlarking, over the years.
01:43Tell us a little bit about all the Chinese items.
01:47Well, most of these, well, all of these come out of the river, or the riverbank.
01:54And I believe all these places where they were found had Chinese cooks.
01:59That would be market gardeners and all that sort of thing, wouldn't it?
02:02Yes.
02:02That would relate to the goldfields period of Victoria, wouldn't it,
02:06with the Chinese coming over for the gold?
02:08And over here on this table, you've got some real treasures that you have found.
02:14So we'll go over and we'll have a talk about those.
02:17Tell us about these items.
02:23Well, this one is a very early and rare teapot from the Bendigo Pottery, 1880s.
02:31And this one was dived in the Campaspia near Echuca and still come out in great condition.
02:37I've never, ever seen one.
02:39Very, very rare.
02:40Yeah, I think there's only one other one known.
02:42Right.
02:43Tell us about the bottles.
02:49This bottle here is called a Black Horse Whiskey,
02:52and they're very sought after by bottle collectors.
02:55I've dove 14 all up out of the rivers,
02:58and I believe they've probably been throwing in the river of paddle steamers.
03:04Yeah, or when they've been sitting there having a party and throwing a bottle in the river.
03:08Yeah, and this one was found in Millamene, New South Wales.
03:12Incredible condition.
03:14Yeah, for the age of that, been in the river for 140 years.
03:19Unbelievable.
03:22This is an extremely rare flask from Glasgow.
03:28It's unusual to get something that old over here.
03:31So that would have come out early 1800s?
03:36Yeah, early.
03:36Or during the Gold Rush period?
03:38No, pretty early, probably early 1800s.
03:42Yeah.
03:42And you've got an item here relating to an early New South Wales police station, I believe?
03:48Yeah, this was found at the Nillikman,
03:51and that come out of the middle of the river, believe it or not.
03:55We found two of these.
03:56Yeah, and they used to go on top of the hat in the early 1900s, late 1800s.
04:03Yeah.
04:03How we found that, I don't know, but yeah, being so small.
04:08Some policeman must have got angry with his work and thrown his hat in the river.
04:13Yeah.
04:14Yeah.
04:14Tell us a little about this shot flask.
04:20Oh, this shot flask was found on the river bank.
04:23All right.
04:23And it's still in great condition for its age.
04:27Incredible being leather.
04:29Yeah.
04:30And surviving, isn't it?
04:31Yeah, and this was found up at Gerildry in New South Wales.
04:36Mm-hmm.
04:36And couldn't believe it when we give it a wipe over with the mud,
04:41and this popped up.
04:42We think the mud preserved it.
04:50And over here we have a reference to a cannon that you found.
04:55Tell us a little bit about that.
04:57Well, we were very lucky to find this.
04:59It's extremely rare.
05:00We found this up in Wanganella, New South Wales, in the Billabong.
05:09These days it's just for collecting.
05:11And collecting, and it's telling Australia's early history, which is important, I think.
05:16Yeah, that's right.
05:16Eric, thanks for showing us the treasures that you've found,
05:20and the stories, what you get into doing mud-larking,
05:23and the pleasure it brings you, but also as a collector,
05:27displaying and telling us some of Australia's early history.
05:31It's very important.
05:32No way.
05:33Thank you very much.
05:48Today I'm at the Wentworth Park Antiques and Collectibles Fair in Sydney,
05:52and Gabriella's going to try and guess what it is.
05:55Well, I have no idea what they are,
05:58but I think they might be some kind of counter for a game.
06:02So you would count the game with the different colours.
06:05They look like some kind of little nuts.
06:07Great.
06:09Mandy?
06:09Well, originally, when you were battling the box at me,
06:14I thought it might be Smarties.
06:16But, you know, I think that there's some sort of counters,
06:23counting beads for a game.
06:25Very good.
06:25And the different colours,
06:27so you would have different values in your game.
06:30Very good.
06:31Thank you very much.
06:31OK, thank you.
06:32OK.
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06:41Today, Antiques Down Under is meeting a Kiss superfan,
06:45and I think I'm in the right spot.
06:50Hello, Claudia.
06:51How are you?
06:52Is it you, Colin?
06:54Wow.
07:01Colin, this is super impressive.
07:04Forget front row tickets at the concert.
07:07You've got front row seats in your own living room.
07:09I'm guessing maybe your Kiss obsession started when you were a teenager.
07:12Yeah, I was about 14.
07:14I'm now 63,
07:15so the collection started 49 years ago.
07:22So you are Gene Simmons, the demon.
07:25Tell me about the other characters.
07:27Correct.
07:28Yes, I'm the demon,
07:29so they're spitting blood and blowing flames
07:32and all that kind of thing is what Gene does.
07:35All the characters are about their alter egos,
07:38so Paul's the star man,
07:40Peter Criss the cop,
07:42and Ace Frehley the spaceman.
07:46When you think of Kiss,
07:47it's all about the make-up and the blood spitting
07:49and the pyrotechnics,
07:50but there was a stage in the 90s
07:52where Kiss were unmasked.
07:55They appeared and performed without their make-up.
07:57They did.
07:57They'd done that for 17 years.
07:59How did the fans react when they first came out with that?
08:02Yeah, a bit weird, a bit different.
08:04They changed their style, a bit heavier.
08:06Yeah.
08:07And then after 17 years,
08:10they seen the light and put it back on,
08:12and that was the greatest time of my life.
08:14I think we need to unmask Colin.
08:30That's warm.
08:31Yeah, that's warm.
08:33It's very Mission Impossible, isn't it?
08:35And now here's my new face.
08:37How's that?
08:38That's great.
08:39That was nice being my older ear.
08:41I suppose it was a bit of a bonus
08:42when you found the mask.
08:44The mask's a very special collector
08:47that was designed on Gene's face.
08:49That was Gene's moulded to his actual face.
08:51The costume is also an exact replica
08:53of what they wore back in 73 or 74.
08:57I love your shoes.
08:58They're a lot nicer, aren't they?
08:59They're fantastic.
09:01It looks like they should have smoke
09:02coming out of the nostrils.
09:03They should, shouldn't they?
09:04Yeah, for sure.
09:09You've got the stage set.
09:11Yes.
09:12You built that?
09:13Yes.
09:14There's nothing better than live music
09:15and this is as close as I can get.
09:17And your whole family is rather keen
09:20on your collection too?
09:21It's kept my family together.
09:22We've had a connection.
09:24You know, I could, you know,
09:25like now my grandchildren are coming through.
09:28Just behind me down there on the ground
09:30are all the clothes that my grandchildren wore
09:33that I've now got in dolls.
09:35My first born was in a Gene Simmons make-up
09:42before she was three hours old.
09:43I asked the nurse and she said, yeah, OK.
09:46I can just imagine the maternity ward that day.
09:49A little bouncing baby girl.
09:51Classic collectibles.
09:57What have you got?
09:58Classic collectibles.
09:59Well, a couple of my favourites.
10:01A couple of pics from the show.
10:04Paul, I've got Gene Simmons.
10:06My daughter received Paul Stanley.
10:07Both have been played on stage.
10:09I see badges.
10:10Badges.
10:11I see trading cards.
10:12Belt buckles.
10:14Beer.
10:14I've got pairs of dispensers.
10:16We have Kiss Everything.
10:17And Kiss is a part of,
10:20a big part of your life.
10:21Very big part.
10:22Why?
10:23Why do you love Kiss?
10:24You have to love something.
10:25You've got to have something in your life,
10:27whether it be religion,
10:28whether it be drugs, alcohol, whatever.
10:30This is my thing, you know.
10:31You're not feeling too good.
10:33It just pumps me up.
10:36Gives a kiss.
10:38Exactly.
10:39Doesn't get any better than that.
10:44I love this pinball machine.
10:46He's got your outfit on.
10:47He has, hasn't he?
10:50So when you were a teenager,
10:52you know, you were a bit in love with Kiss,
10:54were you playing this pinball machine
10:55at the local milk bar?
10:56It was my favourite.
10:57I went to it all the time.
10:59And interesting,
10:59because the Kiss logo with the SS
11:02looking like the German SS in Germany,
11:05they banned that logo.
11:06They did ban it.
11:07And I'm lucky enough
11:08that I actually have a German back glass
11:11with the actual SS on it,
11:12the normal SS.
11:13So we've got the family album,
11:18and of course...
11:19We've got the family album.
11:20Picture of you and Gene.
11:21Picture of me and Gene.
11:22How exciting that day was.
11:26Here are my grandkids,
11:28Hunter and Xander.
11:29Cricket, Australia's favourite sport.
11:54I'm here with Andrew
11:55with his cricket collection.
11:56A massive willow all around the room,
11:59even stumps laying on the floor.
12:02Andrew even believes
12:03he's a famous Australian cricketer.
12:05He's got Steve Waugh's baggy green on.
12:09Do you play as well as Steve Waugh?
12:11Oh, not a chance.
12:12Not a chance.
12:13Love me cricket.
12:15But yeah.
12:15You did play when you were young,
12:16though, didn't you?
12:17I did play until the last three years.
12:19Did you?
12:19Yeah.
12:19What inspired you
12:21to collect cricket memorabilia?
12:23Several years ago,
12:24when I was actually setting
12:25my bar up in the shed,
12:27I was going to put
12:27a row of old bats
12:28along the front of the bar.
12:30And that got to 20 bats
12:31along the bar
12:31and looked really, really good.
12:33And then,
12:34next thing you know,
12:35there was a pile of 50
12:36in front of the bar,
12:37so I had to set up the room here
12:39to actually spread them all out.
12:41And all the other cricket memorabilia?
12:43You keep picking that up?
12:44It's just followed me home.
12:45Followed you home.
12:46Ha ha ha.
12:47I played cricket
12:53with four out of the five
12:54of my boys.
12:55I've had four of them
12:56on the same ground at once.
12:57That was great.
12:58Yeah.
12:58And they all like coming up here
13:01and having a look.
13:02Yeah.
13:02Seeing what else
13:03Dad's managed to find.
13:05Yeah.
13:05I've still got three boys
13:06playing cricket,
13:07so yeah.
13:07That's good.
13:08Who's going to inherit it all?
13:09How are you going to divide
13:10a cricket collection
13:11amongst all those boys?
13:12Yeah.
13:12Next question.
13:13Ha ha ha.
13:14Ha ha ha.
13:14Ha ha ha.
13:17Tell us about some
13:19of your favourite bats
13:20that you've got.
13:21The ones I really,
13:22really admire
13:23are the ones
13:24that come off
13:24the army ships.
13:25They were army issued.
13:27Right.
13:28They were on the boats
13:28and they weren't supposed
13:29to leave the boats
13:30according to the writing
13:31on them.
13:32Right.
13:32Yeah, I've got three
13:33of those.
13:34And would they be
13:34from World War I,
13:35World War II?
13:36World War II.
13:37They were army issued.
13:38Right.
13:39Yeah, I've got a lot
13:40of captain signatures
13:41on the bats
13:42and a lot of
13:43ex-Australian players.
13:45Behind me,
13:46I've got about
13:47seven of the Bradman bats
13:48all lined up.
13:50Right.
13:51All lined up.
13:55Over there,
13:56you've got some cricket balls.
13:57That's the different colours.
13:59Yeah, that's just
14:00some of the different balls
14:01they use from time to time.
14:02I've actually found
14:03a platypus one
14:04the other day.
14:05That was a brand
14:05they don't use anymore.
14:06Right, yep.
14:07And I've got one
14:08in the little circle there
14:09that's signed by Shane Warne.
14:11And the white ball,
14:12that was a bit of
14:13controversy over that,
14:14wasn't there?
14:15Yeah, when it first started.
14:16Yeah.
14:17They use them
14:18pretty readily now.
14:19Well, let's go around
14:20and have a talk
14:20about all of what
14:21you've got in this room
14:22and see what I can
14:24take home.
14:26Hmm.
14:28To add to mine.
14:30Yeah.
14:35Now, Andrew,
14:36you've got a fabulous
14:37range of bats here.
14:38Tell us a little bit
14:39about them.
14:40I've just picked them up
14:41over time.
14:42A few of your famous
14:43Australian cricketers,
14:44ex-captains
14:45and ex-players.
14:46Yeah.
14:47You've got Bob Simpson here.
14:48He was the Australian
14:49coach at one stage.
14:50Sam Trimble,
14:51I didn't know much
14:51about him.
14:52Bill Laurie,
14:53we know about him
14:54and the pigeons
14:54on the radio,
14:55on the tally broadcast.
14:57We hear that all the time.
14:58And look at the condition
14:59of the bat.
15:00Yes.
15:00Looks like it had a lot
15:02of dirty wickets
15:03played on.
15:04Or hit a few pigeons.
15:06Yes.
15:07Let's go and have a look
15:07at what you've got
15:08down in here.
15:10In here.
15:11In here,
15:11this is where you store
15:12your Bragman,
15:13I believe.
15:14There's several
15:15different styles
15:16of Bragman bats
15:16in there.
15:17There's three different
15:18styles of the older
15:19bats with the names
15:21burned in.
15:22Right.
15:22There's two of the
15:23more modern,
15:24Sykes and the
15:25Slezenger.
15:25Yep.
15:26The V99.9.
15:27And the one beside it
15:29has actually been
15:30signed by him.
15:35Up the other end,
15:36I've got the
15:37Slezengers and Pumas
15:39of Adam Gilchrist.
15:41Right.
15:41Yep.
15:42Yeah.
15:42He was a favourite
15:43to us all,
15:44I would say.
15:44Yeah,
15:44I think so.
15:50Andrew,
15:50along this wall
15:51under all these
15:52beautiful bats again,
15:53you've got all these.
15:53Tell us a little bit
15:54about them.
15:55Well,
15:55Alan Border,
15:55I believe,
15:56was the one
15:57that got
15:57Test Cricket
15:58back on the map
15:59after Kim Hughes
16:00and the African Tour,
16:03which destroyed
16:03the whole team
16:04for a while.
16:05And he was the man
16:06that pulled them all
16:06back and got the
16:07Australian cricket team
16:08up and running again.
16:09Yeah,
16:09that was certain
16:10controversial,
16:10wasn't it?
16:14Along here,
16:15we've got something
16:15really,
16:16really special.
16:18And it just goes
16:18to show how good
16:19Australia is at cricket,
16:21doesn't it?
16:21It does.
16:22Australia,
16:22five,
16:23defeated England,
16:25nought.
16:26Can you remember
16:26that year?
16:28Oh,
16:28there's a few years
16:29like that,
16:29but yes,
16:31no,
16:31I do remember
16:31that year.
16:32Well,
16:33that's Australia
16:33and Australia's cricket.
16:35It is.
16:35Thanks for showing us
16:36your cricket memorabilia.
16:37It's been an absolute
16:38fun time.
16:40It's taken me down
16:41memory road
16:41with my father
16:42being a cricketer
16:43as well.
16:45No,
16:45all good.
16:46No season
16:57of Antiques
16:58in London
16:58would be complete
16:59without a visit
17:00to Ian's
17:01fantastic collection.
17:03This time,
17:04Ian has promised
17:04to show us
17:05his collection
17:06of Welsh
17:06love spoons.
17:08Let's have a look.
17:08Greetings,
17:14Lee.
17:15Nice to see you
17:16again.
17:17Wonderful to be here.
17:17We're going to have
17:18a look at a few
17:18spoons today.
17:20Well,
17:20I think we've all
17:21heard of spooning,
17:23but what is a
17:24Welsh love spoon?
17:25Well,
17:26a Welsh love spoon
17:27is not a very
17:28practical item.
17:30I wouldn't eat
17:30my Wheaties
17:31with one of these,
17:32but if I was
17:34a young lassie
17:35in Wales
17:36and I intended
17:37instead of giving
17:38me an engagement
17:39ring,
17:39gave me one
17:40of these spoons
17:41which he'd
17:41hand-carved
17:42with lots
17:43of symbolism,
17:45I'd be quite
17:45excited.
17:46I see why
17:47you would be.
17:48What sort
17:49of symbolism
17:49do we have
17:50on this?
17:50Well,
17:50there's all
17:51sorts of meanings.
17:52They're not
17:52just decorative.
17:53I'll just pick
17:54one up here.
17:55This is good luck,
17:57the horseshoe,
17:58the heart is love,
18:00and balls
18:01meant the number
18:01of children
18:02they hoped for.
18:03Not very many.
18:04And the steadfastness
18:06with the lock
18:07and the key
18:08came up,
18:09but every one
18:10of them has
18:11symbolism carved
18:13into it.
18:13That one we're
18:14just looking at,
18:14that whole thing,
18:16including the balls,
18:17has been carved
18:18from a single
18:18piece of wood.
18:19Yes,
18:20they're all
18:20a single piece
18:21of wood,
18:22and if your
18:23intended was
18:24skilled enough
18:26to carve
18:26something as well
18:27as this,
18:28he could possibly
18:28build you a house
18:29or make you a
18:30kitchen or build
18:32a fence around
18:32the new property.
18:34The first recorded
18:35one is around
18:361660,
18:38and they probably
18:38existed before then,
18:40but a lot of things
18:41were destroyed
18:42prior to the
18:43restoration
18:43in the English
18:45period.
18:50What's your
18:51newest one?
18:52Well,
18:52I happened to be
18:53in Hobart,
18:53and my wife said,
18:55you've got enough
18:55now,
18:55don't collect
18:56any more spoons.
18:57And these three
18:58long ones came up,
19:00one, two,
19:00and there's another
19:01one somewhere there.
19:02And I was
19:04travelling very
19:05light with seven
19:06kilos from Hobart
19:07back to Melbourne,
19:08and I had to go
19:09through the airport,
19:10and I carried
19:11these tied together,
19:13and every person
19:14attending the airport
19:15wanted to know
19:16what they were all
19:17about.
19:17So they got an
19:18instant lesson
19:19in Welsh love
19:21spoons.
19:21The amount of
19:26skill that I'm
19:27seeing here
19:27is just
19:28extraordinary.
19:29Yes.
19:29Even a simple
19:30piece like this?
19:31Yes.
19:32How was that
19:33carved?
19:34Well,
19:34imagine the
19:34young man,
19:35he's got an
19:36idea,
19:36he wants to
19:37give something
19:38important,
19:39memorable to
19:40his intended,
19:41and he dreams
19:42up in his
19:43mind,
19:43now I'm going
19:44to do one
19:45that swirls
19:45like this,
19:46and all he has
19:47is a piece of
19:48wood,
19:48something like
19:49that.
19:50So he would
19:50draw what he
19:51intended,
19:52then gets out
19:53his pen knife,
19:54and starts
19:56carving away by
19:57hand.
19:58So he's turned
19:58a block of wood
19:59into a memorable
20:01piece that's not
20:03really usable,
20:04but it has
20:05significance in
20:06the Welsh culture.
20:12Even more
20:13amazing,
20:14this one again,
20:17where he's even
20:18carved,
20:19balls in a
20:20chamber,
20:21and the
20:23chain and
20:23the lock,
20:24all out of
20:25one piece of
20:25wood.
20:26So there's no
20:27joins,
20:28like you go to
20:28the jeweller and
20:29they open up a
20:30link and put it
20:30in.
20:31With these,
20:32they're carved
20:33out of one
20:33piece of wood,
20:34so it's quite a
20:35skill,
20:35carving a chain
20:36out of a
20:37solid piece of
20:38wood.
20:38I don't suppose
20:39there's much
20:39else to do
20:40for a single
20:41man in Welsh
20:41villages at
20:42the time.
20:42Well, there was
20:42no television,
20:43no internet
20:44in those days.
20:45Ian, I've
20:46never even seen
20:46a single
20:47Welsh love
20:48spoon.
20:48Here's a whole
20:50collection of
20:50them.
20:50What got you
20:51started on this?
20:52Well, I have
20:53many collections,
20:54but I find the
20:55most exciting
20:57ones are things
20:58that people have
20:59not seen before
21:00or tend to be
21:02fairly rare.
21:03When I started
21:03to see a few of
21:04these around,
21:05I thought,
21:06well, these have
21:07a story to tell
21:08and they're very
21:09interesting, so I'll
21:10go for a few of
21:11those.
21:11So, Ian, this
21:12is in a frame
21:13but with
21:14other objects.
21:15Well, on
21:15board, they
21:16didn't have
21:17gift shops
21:18and you
21:19couldn't
21:19bring your
21:20family back
21:21home, so
21:22you sat on
21:23deck, long
21:24arduous
21:24voyages and
21:25you used
21:26available
21:27materials, scraps
21:28and you made
21:29things.
21:30A little toy
21:30for the
21:31children, a
21:32sail seam
21:32rubber there,
21:34a splicer for
21:35your ropes for
21:36the rigging, a
21:37model of the
21:38ship.
21:38You used a
21:39bit of bone
21:40from last
21:40night's dinner
21:41and carved the
21:42ship on it, but
21:43the key one that
21:44concerns us today
21:45is the love
21:46spoon that was
21:47hand-carved in
21:48the 1830s, 200
21:49years ago.
21:51Ian, that's a
21:51wonderful story
21:52to go with such
21:53a marvellous
21:53collection.
21:54Yes.
21:55Thank you so
21:55much for having
21:56us here.
21:56It's been a
21:57pleasure.
21:57It's an
21:58intriguing subject
21:59and it's
22:00fascinated me and
22:01anyone I've
22:02ever shown this
22:03to.
22:08Now, here's
22:13Carol, who's
22:14going to tell
22:14us what this
22:15wonderful item
22:16is.
22:17Carol, put us
22:17out of our
22:18misery.
22:18What is it?
22:19It's a 1950s
22:21Italian piece,
22:22Capodimanti, and
22:23it's lipstick
22:24holders.
22:25Ah.
22:26At least.
22:27So there were
22:28some guesses that
22:28it was a music
22:29box.
22:30Yes.
22:30Right now, it's
22:31not working because
22:32of their age.
22:33It's almost 100
22:33years old.
22:34Generally, when
22:36the music plays,
22:37the ball in the
22:37arena twirls
22:38around.
22:39Ah, beautiful.
22:40So, it's just
22:42lovely.
22:43So I'd like that
22:44on my dressing
22:44room table.
22:45Thanks so much,
22:46Carol.
22:46You're welcome.
22:48Now that was
22:49tricky.
22:49Did you get it
22:50right?
22:51Don't forget, you
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