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00:00I think that some of the officiating has been bad.
00:04I'll just say bad because it has been and not supposed to do that.
00:08But if it's that bad, I'm not, people aren't stupid.
00:11You're watching and it's, it was bad. It was bad in Vegas.
00:16We've got another episode of up in the blue seats on deck for you all.
00:21Your favorite Rangers podcast from the New York coast.
00:24It's Molly Walker and former Ranger Brian Boyle, as always back in your earbuds,
00:29back on your screens and with plenty to talk about last week was a great week for
00:36this Rangers team. And this week, not so much so far.
00:40It's difficult to get excited about taking six of a possible eight points against
00:45some pretty good teams in Dallas, Ottawa, Colorado,
00:49and Vegas when you follow it up with a pretty putrid three to nothing loss to the
00:55Blackhawks. The power play is in disarray.
00:57If Panarin, Miller, Zibanejad aren't going, it feels like no one is.
01:03These dud performances have just been way too periodic.
01:08I mean, Brian,
01:08what was your biggest takeaway from that Chicago game?
01:12Uh, it's like, uh,
01:14felt like it could have been a trap game, but it's not.
01:16It's a, it's an exciting game on the road.
01:19And then, you know, iconic building.
01:23Yeah.
01:24Uh, let's bury it.
01:26We're going to talk about it.
01:27We're going to bury it.
01:27We're going to move past it.
01:28It's like, uh,
01:30it's like when you mess up as a kid in school and you just can't tell your parents
01:35or you have to get a bad grade signed by your parents and you just wait and you
01:39wait, just, just face it head on and then get past it.
01:42You know, take your penance and try to figure out how you can avoid that, learn
01:47from it.
01:48And, you know, unfortunately with how the season has gone with results, because I
01:54do think I still will say this, the stretches of games this year in terms of a
02:00complete hockey team on the ice is, is above what it was last year.
02:03Now you're comparing it to last year.
02:05And I understand that that's not a very high watermark, but they're moving in the
02:10right direction in a lot of different areas.
02:12I think the depth, I think the defense, I think how they defend, and I think the
02:16goaltending is all improved.
02:17This team has relied a lot on their power play over the last several years and
02:21they should.
02:22Um, but we'll get into some numbers because at some point we're going to get into
02:27some numbers because it's just, you have to be able to score a five on five and,
02:31and the big dogs have to do it too.
02:33Can't be a power play merchants.
02:34But you got to get it done five on five.
02:37What are you seeing from the big dogs?
02:38What, what would be your evaluation of, of, you know, JT Miller, Mika Zibanejad,
02:43or Tammy Panarin?
02:46I think, I mean, you know, so Panarin a little bit this year has been feast or
02:50famine, but when he's feasting, it's winning them games because that's what he
02:54can do.
02:55And the last 15 or so games have been much better than the first 15 or so
02:59games.
03:00I think that's obvious on the scoreboard on his, on his stat line.
03:03Um, and with that, you know, his line generally does better.
03:08They've mixed up that top, top six a bunch of times.
03:11Since the first preseason game that I saw Zibanejad, and that was in Boston.
03:16I saw him live as a whole throughout, you know, the first third of the season, he
03:23has been miles better than he was last year.
03:25And that is a great sight to see both sides of the puck two ways.
03:28Um, it was a great, because, you know, you, you look at the age, you look at the
03:33contract last year and it's, it's a scary thought to think, who knows if this is the
03:38cliff that, you know, that father time comes for all of us.
03:41He, he's really put that noise to bed.
03:44Would be like, I think at least a handful more goals he could have had early in the
03:50year.
03:50And it just wasn't going in for him much like the rest of the team.
03:52And then Millsy's the same, like he's obviously wasn't right, missed time, different
03:58points in the season, uh, has been, you know, better lately, I think, but just not
04:06by his standards and he holds himself to very high standards.
04:09So he's trying to do all the things that he can.
04:12I think with Troach, it's tough to say because of how much time he missed, but when
04:16he's back, I think he's a huge help to the team.
04:19He can do so many things.
04:20So I think, you know, JT is going to get better.
04:23He's going to improve and be more of a contributor.
04:26They'll figure out life without Adam Fox.
04:30Yeah.
04:30Yeah.
04:31It's going to be a fun conversation when he comes back.
04:34That's my prediction.
04:35That's for sure.
04:37Um, you know, you mentioned JT Miller and I feel like such an interesting part of this
04:43season, especially for us over here on the Rangers, having Mike Sullivan be the head
04:49coach of team USA as well, even today.
04:52And a few games ago, it was a pregame morning of skate availability.
04:58People are asking naturally asking Mike Sullivan questions about the Olympics, about opposing
05:04players that are coming in, that he's evaluating what it's, what do you, how he's been balancing
05:08his team USA responsibilities with his Rangers responsibilities.
05:11And there's so much out there about, you know, how there's Ranger players who are playing
05:16in front of him and JT being one of them and whether or not he's going to be on team USA's
05:21roster.
05:21I know that there was a report, Elliot Friedman was talking about how he still thinks that
05:27JT is going to make team USA, but his recent struggles, he's obviously had some costly turnovers
05:32and things like that.
05:34Quote unquote, you're almost asking yourself, should he be on the team?
05:38And he also apparently warned that a Miller snub could create a riff with Mike Sullivan.
05:44And I thought that that was a really interesting comment to make because, and I don't, not saying
05:50I disagree with, with Elliot Friedman, because Elliot Friedman is always on, but, and it is
05:54fair to speculate how Mike Sullivan's job as team USA head coach can kind of conflict with
06:03the way that he does things for the Rangers.
06:05But I mean, with JT in particular, we asked him about something as silly as the Milan, you
06:12know, ice being smaller than, than, uh, NHL standard and JT wouldn't even comment on it
06:20because he does not want there to be an expectation that he thinks that he's going to be on the
06:26roster.
06:27And to me, that's the type of decision that a player makes when they're really trying not
06:33to make it about him one way or another.
06:36You know, like I just feel like, I think that Sullivan and the players on the Rangers who
06:42are trying to make team USA's roster are all very aware of, of the balance that you have
06:49to have.
06:50And, and that it would be unfair to, to act that way with something as unbelievable as
06:56the Olympics.
06:56Like it's, it's just, you know, I mean, how do, how do you see that situation?
07:02You're not asking if he wants to be, I mean, he of course wants to be on the team.
07:06I, I, you know what, it's, it's a JT Miller that has matured and grown up and that's the
07:14right answer for him at the time, because look, he's the captain of the New York Rangers.
07:17The New York Rangers aren't where they expect to be themselves in the standings.
07:22And, you know, if he's, if he's a point of game and has, you know, 19 goals or whatever,
07:30I don't know that if you ask him that question, he answers it differently.
07:36Yeah.
07:36I don't think so.
07:37I think he, even at that point, we'll be like, I'm trying to get this thing going that I'm
07:40in right now as the captain of this team.
07:43And that, I think, you know, people are commenting.
07:47I went to the comments right away when Elliot Friedman, you know, tweeted that.
07:53I'm like, I can't wait.
07:54And look, Vancouver people are a different breed.
07:59The fans of the Vancouver Canucks people.
08:02That's what I'm saying.
08:02Not all of British Columbia, not all of Vancouver.
08:05We're not, we're not taking shots.
08:07And a certain subset of, right.
08:09A certain subset of their fans are a certain way.
08:12They're not all, not even all the fans, but like you make a comment about,
08:17about Quinn Hughes and they're trying to ride him.
08:21Like he's a terrible person now because he's answering questions and they think
08:25he's lying and it's just, so people are going to come after JT and that's just
08:31noise from far away.
08:32It doesn't matter.
08:32He'll keep it like focused on trying to play really well for the New York Rangers.
08:38And that's what every kid should be doing.
08:40That's trying to make their respective countries,
08:43because that's how you're ultimately going to get judged by these coaching staffs and
08:47management.
08:48I, I like couldn't be more of a fan of JT Miller.
08:53And that, that helps a lot too.
08:54Like, I'm just, I'm proud of the kid.
08:56I love like what his mindset is now.
09:01Yeah.
09:01And, you know, he's an easy guy to root for.
09:05He's self-deprecating at times.
09:06He's, he's doesn't take himself too seriously.
09:08He takes his work very seriously as we've, we've come to know.
09:12Um, but yeah, he, I think he's on that team and.
09:17I do too.
09:18I do too.
09:18Take as many centers as you can.
09:19And, uh, but to wrap it all up, Mike Sullivan doesn't, it's not an easy spot, but we've,
09:26I mean, we've thought about this since August.
09:29I have anyway.
09:31And yeah, like there's so many of these names and the four nations guys and all that.
09:36So you have to, and you know, it's not easy.
09:39And then everyone's talking about Marty St.
09:40Louis, Stevie Eisenman.
09:41Yep.
09:43It's not that.
09:44It's not.
09:44Yeah.
09:45I really don't.
09:46I don't either.
09:47I also just be going back to how seriously JT is taking the Rangers captaincy responsibility
09:53and just the way that he's approached it.
09:57I mean, when I, like, I was surprised by the answer about the Milan ice, but I also wasn't
10:04like when he said that I was like, Oh, I was like, you know what?
10:07I would expect him to say something like that.
10:09Just, just from the way that he has handled himself and carried himself since the start
10:13of the season.
10:14But when he gave that answer, I was actually like, I respect that so much, so much.
10:20What a perfect answer because why would he assume that he's on, on the roster and you
10:25know, why, why even, you know, give people talking points, you know, by commenting on
10:31a situation that is pretty, you know, far ahead and not in the here and now.
10:37So I thought it was very interesting, but that's definitely been a topic of conversation
10:41in the National Hockey League this week.
10:44But moving on, we've got some injury updates.
10:49Unfortunately, Adam Edstrom was placed on long-term injured reserve.
10:53It is not the same lower body injury that he suffered last season and ended his season
10:59and required surgery.
11:00So I guess that's a positive that it's not, uh, yeah, that it's not re-aggravating the
11:07same serious injury, but, um, it is the same thing that he's been dealing with since the
11:13Rangers said it was bumps and bruises earlier this season.
11:17He missed a couple games for what they said was bumps and bruises.
11:20And it seems that this injury has still been nagging him and still lingering and it has
11:26not been progressing the way that they wanted it to.
11:29So the best course of action was to just shut him down for a bit.
11:34Um, and it's been a bit of a different season for him.
11:37I mean, when he got hurt last season, he was really starting to hit a stride this season.
11:43He, uh, I wouldn't say that there's been a stride there.
11:46He got, uh, he was a healthy scratch one night.
11:50Um, but there's also been a lot of movement in the Rangers, uh, lineup as well.
11:54So, um, just what kind of, what kind of loss is that for the foreseeable future, Brian?
12:00Well, you know, you can tell he was banged up and I thought he was going to take another
12:04step and it's tough when, especially such a big man, you're hampered by something and
12:10I'm not going to pretend to know exactly what his injury is, but if, you know, you gut it
12:15out, if you're, you're good or you're not good to play, are you a hundred percent really
12:20ever?
12:20Uh, no, but if it's a little hand injury, he could figure out a way with this skating in
12:25his reach.
12:26He had that scratch and then came back and thought he's playing really well and still
12:33wasn't, didn't have the jump.
12:35I thought I saw last year, but was still playing really well, like figuring out ways,
12:40which is a sign of a positive.
12:42If you just completely are just hindered and you can't do anything, it's really, you
12:48know, concerning, but as a young player, you, you live with that.
12:51He, he took that and adjusted.
12:53So I, it's a, it's a loss.
12:55It's a loss without him and, and Rempe.
12:58It's right.
12:59That's a pretty identifiable fourth line that had some success.
13:02And, um, you just try to, you know, you got opportunities.
13:06Other guys have opportunities.
13:07Yeah.
13:08Well, Matt Rempe does seem to be a lot closer than he ever has been.
13:13He is back on the ice with the team.
13:16He shed his non-contact jersey today at Friday's practice and was a full participant, but he's
13:23not going to play against Montreal on Saturday, but Sullivan did say he's getting close.
13:28So all I, all I know is he better be on the ice in Miami.
13:32Well, we, yeah, last outdoor game was his coming out.
13:38Exactly.
13:38It literally was.
13:40Yeah.
13:41I wonder if, and shout out Matt Martin, I took that on.
13:43That was, um.
13:44Yeah.
13:45A lot of respect for Matt Martin.
13:47I know he's an Islander.
13:48Don't hurt me.
13:49Don't yell at me.
13:50Uh, yeah.
13:51We love Matt Martin on this podcast.
13:54Let's see.
13:55Let's see if they give him a couple of games in Hartford just to get the face back.
13:58I wonder.
13:59Yeah.
13:59Don't fight anyone, uh, please.
14:03That would be my, uh, I wouldn't surprise me if that happened.
14:05I guess I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to make decisions here.
14:10It's just a long time, a long time out.
14:12Yeah, it is.
14:13You know, you want to get your reps.
14:15Yeah.
14:16A conditioning assignment, I don't think would be the worst thing in the world.
14:19Um, but yeah, we'll see.
14:22We'll see when he ends up coming back, but it does seem like he'll be back before the
14:26winter classic, which is great, you know, just, just in terms of, I'm thinking about
14:30viewership purposes.
14:32Everybody's going to want to see Matt Rett be on the ice.
14:35So, um, good for the NHL.
14:38Um, all right.
14:39So we have to get into the power play.
14:41We really have to get into the nitty gritty here because the Adam saw Adam Fox sized void
14:48on the power play is, has almost become a detriment at this point.
14:54Um, with the five forward alignment that Mike Sullivan has been going with and is sticking
15:01with, as we saw at practice today.
15:04Um, but they went over 11 without Fox so far with one shorthanded goal against, they have
15:12the fewest power play opportunities in the entire national hockey league with 72 goes back
15:20to never having the puck and just not playing, I guess, aggressively enough to be drawing those
15:27types of fouls and getting the power plays.
15:30Um, and in that Chicago game, they had the shorthanded goal against, right.
15:37And that is what prompted Mike Sullivan to put Scott Morrow, rookie defenseman who is known to be
15:44capable of quarterbacking a power play.
15:47He put them up there for the final two opportunities, but I mean, in those circumstances, I don't think
15:53he got much practice time in that role and just throwing them out there didn't really produce
15:59any alternate results than what they were getting previously.
16:03Yeah.
16:04I mean, power play is such a, it's a feel thing and a confidence thing.
16:09And geez, we had some rough power plays in my few years in New York where people be yelling,
16:16decline it.
16:17And you know what it's about.
16:20And it's, it's, when it's that hard, it's hard to score goals.
16:22It's, it's, uh, you can, it can take away some of the air in your sales and, but it's Adam
16:29Fox is that guy.
16:30It's, he's, he's that important.
16:31Now you have a couple of righties that you could put in there.
16:34I think if laugh, laugh when you're goes to the front of the net, he can be really good
16:40in front of the net.
16:40And then if he gets success in front of the net on the power play, even chances, he's going
16:44to continue that five on five.
16:46If you challenge inside the dots, especially down low, the offensive zone, and you, and
16:53you're having the better of play, you're going to get more power plays.
16:57Now, do I think recently the Rangers could have had a lot more power plays?
17:04Yeah, I do.
17:05I think that some of the officiating has been bad.
17:09I'll just say bad because it has been and not supposed to do that.
17:13But if it's that bad, I'm not, people aren't stupid.
17:16You're watching and it's, it was bad.
17:18It was bad in Vegas, uh, at home against Vegas rather.
17:22Um, you can't let that affect you.
17:25You got to play.
17:25Yeah.
17:26You got to play through things.
17:27This is just how life works anyway.
17:29You're not going to get the bounces all the time.
17:31And they're certainly not getting any bounces so far this year.
17:34No.
17:35No.
17:35They have an opportunity again with the five guys.
17:39He's, he's throwing them back out there for, there's plenty of talent in that group.
17:46And they start watching video together.
17:50They'll figure out where they can support better.
17:52They'll figure out life without Adam Fox for a little while.
17:55And they'll probably end up going on a heater right before he's set to come back and he'll
18:00have to readjust.
18:01But, um, it can be detrimental.
18:04It has shown that it's been, I mean, how many points will it cost you in the standings?
18:08Right.
18:09You know, these OT losses or whatever, I mean, they have opportunities, even if it's one
18:13or two, it's really hard.
18:15Cause you're not getting real live reps.
18:18You know, you go one for four, you're feeling pretty good.
18:20You know, you, you don't score for three games, but you were over four.
18:24It's like, right.
18:25I scored three games.
18:26What up?
18:27Right.
18:28And in the beginning they were generating up, they were holding the zone.
18:33They were, you know, spending the entire two minutes on the attack, you know, funneling
18:38pucks at the net.
18:39So that's why Sullivan said after that game that they had shown enough to keep going with
18:46it.
18:46But they had also, especially in that Chicago game, shown enough to make them make the
18:50change.
18:51And Morrow was the only change in that game.
18:54But today at practice, they had Zibanejad at the point, Lafreniere replaced Cooley, and
19:00he was at the net front with JT Miller, Artemi Panarin, and Vincent Trochek.
19:06Scott Morrow was taken off of the power play entirely.
19:09The second unit had Gavrikov, Cooley, Laba, Shiri, and Radish.
19:15And Radish replaced Brodzinski.
19:17So we did see some personnel changes.
19:19And then for the first unit in particular, they're trying a different alignment.
19:23And Sullivan said that Zibanejad being at the top is to provide a little bit more defensive
19:29consciousness at the top there, which is clearly what the issue was in Chicago.
19:36But I asked Trochek how much the dynamic changes when they don't have a demon up there.
19:42And he said that it didn't really change that much because they've got a guy like Artemi
19:46who can quarterback a power play just as well.
19:50I mean, what do you see in terms of the difference with having a defenseman up there or not?
19:56Well, I think Artemi can, but you'd see in the past him and Fox switch.
20:01Yes.
20:01They'd move around.
20:02And it's because of their chemistry and they're playing together for so long.
20:05So, like, you take Adam Fox away, you take a little piece of Artemi away as well.
20:10And that's the challenge that they need to find now, a different sort of chemistry, a different
20:14sort of reads.
20:15You put Mika up top and maybe they can work well together on the power play.
20:21You know, Artemi wants to walk up.
20:22All right.
20:22Then Mika will slide down to his offside and have that one-time threat there.
20:27He can be a one-time threat up top too, which has a whole other dynamic to it.
20:32But, yeah, and then you have a lefty on his right side and a righty on his left.
20:37And then, you know, Brad can wrist it down to Vince and Lafreniere in front.
20:45Like, there's so many different things you can do.
20:47You just get, yeah, you get the puck.
20:48You get the puck.
20:48Yeah.
20:49You're going to win a couple battles here and there.
20:50You have that.
20:51Now you have whatever option they're taking away, you're going to have one.
20:55That's what it is.
20:56The team's going to give you one thing.
20:57That's what penalty kills do.
20:59And say, all right, try to beat us with that.
21:01And then you've got to get creative from there.
21:04Yeah.
21:05I mean, the power play has just been such a key part of their offense for so long
21:10that when it's not going and when it's all over the place,
21:14it just feels like it pours over into their five-on-five game too.
21:19It's just –
21:20But, listen, I'll take a team that wins games five-on-five because the playoffs
21:26are five-on-five.
21:27And the teams that just thrive on the power play, you're not going to be like,
21:31all right, well, stop scoring on the power play because it doesn't happen
21:33as much in the playoffs.
21:34And it oftentimes dries up in the blah, blah, blah.
21:36You know, that is not what anyone does.
21:39But you just – you don't want to be overly reliant on that extra man.
21:45And this year –
21:46No, definitely.
21:46They haven't been because they haven't had enough power plays
21:49and they haven't scored on enough power plays.
21:51But that's – the rest of the game can build and they can figure that out.
21:55Watch out.
21:57Yeah.
21:57We'll see where they go from here.
21:59I was pretty surprised that they stuck with the five-forward alignment, honestly.
22:02Yeah.
22:04You need goals.
22:05You need goals.
22:06Definitely do.
22:07Another question that I feel like has been a hot topic of conversation, Gabe Perreault.
22:16Oh, right.
22:18Gabe Perreault.
22:19I mean, when you think about it, because I understand in a season like this,
22:25fans are going to be clamoring for the youth.
22:27They're going to, you know, want to see as many as the top prospects as they possibly can
22:31give the, you know, over guys like Brodzinski and Sheery and Radish.
22:35Why aren't we looking up at, you know, homegrown talent and homegrown draft picks to fill the roles?
22:44But there's been so much youth in this lineup this season.
22:49It's not like they're not doing that at all.
22:51I mean, Lava has been in the lineup since game one.
22:56Awesome.
22:57Robertson has worked his way in as a regular at this point.
23:01Berard is now in the midst of getting a look.
23:04Kamalash is also now in the mix.
23:08My question to you, though, Brian, is do you bring up Gabe Perreault,
23:14who had 17 points in 18 games, 10 goals, had a back-to-back two-goal effort?
23:20He's making it a conversation.
23:25Okay.
23:25So most fan bases love the shiny new toys.
23:30Like, we all do.
23:31I mean, come on.
23:32It's hard not to.
23:34Yeah.
23:34And to their credit, in this particular case, you know, you have two lines.
23:44And however you want to slice it, there's probably a hole on one of the wings on those two lines for a top six.
23:53Like, a bona fide top six guy who can thrive and projects to be that guy for his whole career.
23:59Now, that's, you know, I know Lassman on the third line, he's played well.
24:03And Will Cooley's gone up and down top six to the third line.
24:07I think Will Cooley plays great on that third line.
24:10And so you don't want to really mess with that.
24:14Yeah.
24:14If it's not, you don't want to put a, you know, a square peg into a round hole.
24:19It's, so here's, here's a round peg that everybody can, you know.
24:24Get behind.
24:25It's seemingly like, okay, well, here's your top six guy who's thriving.
24:30And I understand all that.
24:32And would it surprise me if he gets to look very, very soon?
24:35No, wouldn't at all.
24:38Not at all.
24:39And I guess where would he go on a power play as well?
24:45Like, cause you want to give him every opportunity.
24:47So I don't know, they see him every day.
24:52They can, they talk to Hartford every day.
24:54They see, you know, I'm sure Patoli and Drury are having conversations constantly about not just him, but a lot about him.
25:03And there's probably, there was probably a plan in place of how they wanted to proceed with this player to develop the best Gabe Perrault that he can be.
25:12And as easy as it would be just to bring him up because what we're, the struggles to score goals, what's best for him long-term and right now in the team, probably not right now, but long-term.
25:27Maybe that is, and that's just me speculating, but that's, that's what makes the most sense.
25:33Yeah, no, I definitely agree.
25:35I think it's, I mean, it's, it's definitely worth the conversation, especially when you've got a guy like Connor Sheery on the top line, who's only has one goal and isn't exactly producing the offense that you would like to see in that.
25:49I'm going to say this though.
25:50He's like created a lot of chances.
25:52And if he had any sort of luck in the last few games, he could, he's got a couple of breakaways.
25:56Like they scored on the one.
25:58It was a big goal.
25:59Turned out to be a huge goal.
26:00Yeah, it was a huge goal.
26:01Colorado, it's like, these are, he's, he, and then against Vegas, he, he had Jack Eichel in the corner.
26:09Well, man, oh, you man, oh, one V one.
26:11Yeah.
26:11Jack's in the offensive corner and, you know, Sherry comes down and literally just like, these them up, takes the puck, exits.
26:20It was that, like, that's why Mike Sullivan.
26:24100%.
26:24No, there, he brings more than just putting the puck in the back of the net.
26:29That Mike Sullivan clearly values and understandably so.
26:34But it's obviously, it's just so difficult when it is, it does feel like goals is what you need.
26:40But when you think about it, Gabe Perot is not, they are not a Gabe Perot away from being this, you know, consistent.
26:48He's not going to fix all their problems either, you know, and that's also a lot to put on a young guy.
26:53Yes.
26:54Sorry to interrupt.
26:54That's exactly.
26:55Yeah.
26:55Nor do you want him to have that responsibility?
26:58Exactly.
26:58And I do believe that going into this season that their intentions were to be patient with Perot, that they wanted him to really get a nice long runway in the American League before they wanted to bring him up full time.
27:17So, I think that they're trying to stick to that.
27:20But, you know, the question is, when does it get to the point where you just say, screw it?
27:24You know, why not?
27:26Maybe he can help.
27:27Maybe he'll help spark something, turn things around.
27:31But it's definitely, it might.
27:34It definitely might.
27:35All right.
27:35I got to hear your, because I unfortunately didn't get to hear you on the broadcast.
27:39But I had to hear what you had to say about the Vegas officiating.
27:44Well, I mean, look, I mean, it's a hard-fought game.
27:49And it was a great game.
27:51You know, Howden was a problem in the game.
27:54He scored right away for shift.
27:58And he was all over the ice.
28:00And he competes.
28:00And I like his game a lot.
28:02And so, like, I love the fact that the Rangers went back at him.
28:07I'm like, all right, you're not going to just dominate this game.
28:09We've got enough to worry about with Dorfea and Stone and Eichel and Marner.
28:12Like, you know, it's enough out of you.
28:15Yeah.
28:16And so, they're battling.
28:17And then Borgen in particular, who I was praising this week on the broadcast,
28:23for just, he's a dog.
28:25He's tough.
28:26He's playing hard.
28:27I love his game right now.
28:29And he was like, all right, enough.
28:32And they battled all game.
28:34And they're changing.
28:36And they get caught up in, like, a change.
28:37A couple pushes and shoves.
28:39And Chris Lee decides to enter the game.
28:41I mean, that sort of interaction happens how many times a game?
28:45That was what I was saying.
28:47Oh, yeah.
28:47You know what I'm saying?
28:48Like, it was such a, the way I described it in my article is a regular shift,
28:54like, tiff.
28:55Like, a regular shift back and forth.
28:57But it happens a million times again.
28:58It was a joke.
28:59Yeah.
29:00And that's exactly it.
29:02Yeah.
29:02And he's like, I'm going to make, listen, I'm going to insert myself into this great hockey game.
29:08And he's, you know, he's animated with it.
29:09He's throwing his hands up in the air at MSG.
29:12And I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
29:15Okay?
29:16Like, I have a lot of respect for the officials.
29:18I think their job is extremely.
29:20Of course.
29:20It's a hard job.
29:21They all wanted to play in the NHL.
29:23And none of them could.
29:26This is not, they're not here to watch you.
29:29Do your job well.
29:30And a lot of them do.
29:31They're humble about it.
29:32They work really hard.
29:33And the ones that, the ones that do that.
29:37And I like Chrisley.
29:38I like him a lot.
29:39I just was like, what are you doing, man?
29:41Yeah.
29:41It ultimately turns into a five on four.
29:43Vegas, who also has five forwards on their power play.
29:47They actually had Mitch Marner playing on one of the defense pairs.
29:50So they get a four forwards at five on five.
29:53Yeah.
29:53Prior to the goalie poll.
29:54So, just, it was like, it was impressive to see that, just a killer instinct, to tie the game.
30:03Then over time, you missed a clear way trip.
30:05Like, you just.
30:06Yeah.
30:07Decided to enter the game, and then you decided to exit.
30:09And when, right.
30:11And when game management, like, it's such a fascinating conversation, honestly.
30:16The whole notion about game management.
30:19That was the sort of situation.
30:21I mean, it was a blatant trip that should have been called no matter what.
30:25There could have been five straight major power plays, and that's a trip.
30:29Yeah.
30:30It's a trip.
30:30A hundred percent.
30:31It was.
30:31It was.
30:32It shouldn't be about game management.
30:35But in that situation, that was like a no-brainer call to me.
30:40It was the puck carrier.
30:42When it's the puck carrier, it's not behind the play.
30:45It's a puck carrier.
30:46Yeah.
30:47No, it was like.
30:47Your eyes should be on the puck carrier.
30:50Textbook.
30:50And it's a straight up.
30:52And then it's a transition.
30:53It changes.
30:54It changes position.
30:56Mm-hmm.
30:57And then they just, you know, Matthew Robertson got a little overzealous.
31:00It was too far to the boards.
31:01It was a great play.
31:03The face-off drop that got called back that ultimately led to the game winner for Eichel was.
31:09Happens.
31:10I would want that for the Rangers to be blown dead as well.
31:13Because it was sort of not.
31:15Well, Mika won the face-off.
31:17Right.
31:18But it wasn't.
31:18Right.
31:19That happens.
31:19But Mika had a problem with the way they were dropping the puck and the circle all game.
31:25Well, so he had words for the linesman.
31:27And then the linesman, if you look at the circle.
31:29Yeah.
31:31He's a right-handed linesman.
31:33He drops it on the right side of that circle.
31:35So, it's farther for Mika to go to pull.
31:37Correct.
31:38Out in turns.
31:38Correct.
31:39And that happens.
31:40Listen, that happens all the time.
31:42Correct.
31:43It's, it's, you can't just let Eichs go, though.
31:47He's like.
31:50Yeah.
31:51That's basically what I wrote.
31:52You know, Artemi can give him just a touch.
31:54Like, just a little touch.
31:55No, that's basically what I wrote.
31:58It was, the officiating definitely helped sway that one.
32:01But, I mean.
32:03Which you don't want.
32:04Yeah.
32:04You don't, you don't want that.
32:06You definitely don't.
32:07But, what a, what a game.
32:09What a game that was.
32:10Played well.
32:11Already.
32:12On that boiling point.
32:14We can end here.
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