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00:00President Zelensky has been holding these talks in London.
00:03They happened yesterday.
00:05The British Prime Minister was there,
00:06the French President, the German Chancellor.
00:08And presumably they've got very different messages
00:10for Ukraine than what Washington has been saying to Ukraine.
00:15Sir Keir Starmer said that progress was made at those talks.
00:18But I want to ask you, what's your opinion?
00:19What difference do you think this kind of European effort
00:22will ultimately make to the negotiation process?
00:25Well, I think we have to recognise that this agreement,
00:28if it ever comes, is going to be framed
00:30by the United States and Russia.
00:34Ukraine, of course, is caught between the upper
00:36and the nether millstone here.
00:38What the Europeans are trying to do is say,
00:40look, we are going to continue to support Ukraine.
00:43How best can we do it?
00:45But also at the same time,
00:46how can we actually provide leverage for Ukraine
00:49in this big sort of set-up between the United States and Russia?
00:58The European현, of course.
01:01The European perhaps with strain on will certainly be
01:03the Melbourne no better nor do they design
01:07the Egyptians and Russia?
01:10So far, there are many other Greens吗
01:10to see about Ukraine in a future North and Russia.
01:12It everywhere!
01:13The European цент Belarus
01:14is here to leverage
01:15the European Britain and space
01:16against Ukraine.
01:17The European Cambridge
01:17has been in the United States.
01:18It is, actually,
01:18looking at that appearance here,
01:19the European-chanpatri兴
01:20that the European basis
01:21has a equivalent of for Ukraine mothers.
01:24However, how can we have achieved
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