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00:003-3, go ahead.
00:14So they were trying to get back across the carriageway,
00:25and they'd been struck, is that right?
00:27They were walking, playing clear slides away. It is on CCTV, recording.
00:32Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:36And in League Two, it's crunch time in the play-off semi-finals.
00:40Stockport County host Wicket Wanderers in the second leg later today.
00:46I had driven down to Birmingham to collect my daughter from university.
00:51We were on our way north to come home when the incident happened.
00:57I was travelling up to the game with my dad and my best friend and one of the coaches.
01:02We can see all the traffic building up in front of us.
01:05This didn't feel like an insignificant situation.
01:09We saw a traffic officer's vehicle parked on the left.
01:16We could never have imagined what was about to happen.
01:20The red one's got knocked down by the red car over there.
01:25I've got an ambulance on route for her.
01:27She seems all right, but I'm not a doctor.
01:30She has been knocked down by her.
01:31Is she the one that speaks English or the other one?
01:33Yes.
01:34The other one, she's coming running.
01:35Oh, no!
01:36Shit!
01:39Oh, Jesus!
01:40Mike Alpha, Mike Alpha, we need ambulance, senior officers to the scene.
01:45We've got two possible fatals.
01:52Stay where you are, my love.
01:53Stay where you are.
01:54Stay there.
01:55Stay there.
01:56Stay there.
01:57Stay there.
01:58Stay there.
01:59Stay there.
02:00What started as a horrific suicide attempt of the twin sisters on the M6 then led to the
02:12brutal stabbing of an innocent man a few days later.
02:18It was truly shocking.
02:2317 years on, we don't know exactly what motivated them on that day.
02:30What on earth had caused this to transpire?
02:35DIFFERENT SCREAMING
02:56Sierra, Papa 2-1, go ahead.
02:58Kat 1, immediate response required.
03:01The response required.
03:02The port of a stabbing, male victim, mid-50, bleeding heavily.
03:07Suspect last seen heading westbound on foot,
03:09described as female, white, late 30s, green jacket,
03:13ambulance en route, over.
03:16Sierra control received.
03:17En route, ETA five minutes, over.
03:25It was in the back alley at the back of Duke Street.
03:28They'd actually put up the blue police tape as a cordon.
03:34As I approached the scene,
03:36one of the police officers waved me down and advised me to stop.
03:41I was told that life was extinct.
03:44It was very chilling, shocking,
03:46the whole sequence of events leading up to this, really.
03:50Sabina and Ursula were born in Sweden,
03:59in Varmland County,
04:02near the border of Norway.
04:04We know that Sabina Eriksson was living in Cork, in Ireland,
04:10with her partner and their two sons.
04:14Ursula was living in America.
04:24Ursula arrives from the United States
04:27in a surprise visit to see Sabina.
04:30Sabina.
04:33At around two in the morning,
04:34without saying goodbye to Sabina's partner or children,
04:36the twins left Sabina's family home and travelled north.
04:40They boarded a ferry from Dublin to Liverpool.
04:54From Liverpool, they then boarded a coach
04:57which was en route to London via the M6 South.
05:01We don't know what motivated that.
05:09The twins were holding their bags quite close to them
05:14and acting strangely on the bus.
05:17The driver was alarmed by their behaviour.
05:23About an hour into the journey,
05:25the coach stopped at Cale Services in an unscheduled break.
05:30For reasons that are unclear,
05:35the twins disembark and refuse to get on the coach.
05:39So the coach eventually continues its journey to London,
05:43leaving Sabina and Ursula behind.
05:56Once they were at Cale Services,
05:58they were seen by other members of the public acting erratically,
06:04wandering around, looking lost.
06:08Police did attend the scene,
06:11spoke to the Ericsson twins.
06:13They hadn't committed a crime,
06:15so the police left them on their way.
06:22Sabina and Ursula don't bring a taxi.
06:24Don't look for alternative transport.
06:27Instead, they start heading towards the M6 motorway on foot.
06:31On foot.
06:5233, go ahead.
06:53It appears that it's two Swedish females
07:02that were walking on the central reservation of the motorway.
07:06One of them has appeared to have tried to cross the motorway
07:09and then been hit by a vehicle.
07:10So we've got a vehicle that's been damaged on the southbound
07:13and we've got casualties on the northbound.
07:15Give me a little estimate now of...
07:18Er, we're going to be about two minutes away.
07:24I'm David Ray and I was the person behind the camera on motorway cops.
07:31You spend a 12-hour shift sat in the back of a police car.
07:40Mostly, it's actually quite routine,
07:44but you've got no idea what you're going to come up against.
07:57Hiya!
07:58Hiya!
07:59What we've got is they were in the central res...
08:05Why? Do we know?
08:06Exactly.
08:07And they speak English?
08:08One speaks English, are you?
08:11The one in the red.
08:12Yeah.
08:13We had a block coming up.
08:14Right.
08:15Cos we knew they were on camera.
08:16A full closure?
08:17They were on camera.
08:18A full closure northbound.
08:19Yeah.
08:20They were trying to cross the Bravo.
08:21So, as we approached, they hadn't seen this by then,
08:25The red one's got knocked down by the red car over there, but an ambulance on route for it seems all right, but
08:33I'm not a doctor. She has been knocked down. Is she the one that speaks English or the other one?
08:45Mike Alpha Mike Alpha we need ambulance senior officers to the scene. We've got two possible fatals
08:55I
08:57She's okay
08:59See you breathing
09:02Stay there stay there
09:04Come on. It's okay. It's okay. She's being looked after by the other police. Keep your head still for me
09:10Keep your head still. I don't know what I saw. I just saw this woman exiting frame
09:18Oscar tanga 33. We're gonna need air arms
09:22Why were you running my love
09:24Without any warning whatsoever the first one just ran straight under the wheels of the hgb
09:30It's a sort of compound in the second woman was then immediately hit by a car
09:34The initial reaction is amazement you can't believe that two people have just done that in front of you
09:42For a few seconds you don't know what to do
09:45It's just shock and then the adrenaline kicks in you've got to do a job and you've got to cover this
09:52She'd run in front of me
09:54They avoid you doing with wagging in
09:58And I have a clip to it trailer like
10:01First female has been hit by hgb and serious injury
10:04Second female has been hit by a small vehicle in lane one
10:07We saw ambulances rush past us screeching down the motorway blue lights on
10:15It all happened in a flash
10:17She ran in front of the woman driving the polo thrown up into the air and completely squashed the roof of her car
10:28And there was nothing that that woman could have done to have avoided her
10:38Sabina is it
10:40Sabina
10:41In all my career i've never filmed anything like this before and either before or after
10:47No come on my love come on you've hit your head calm down calm down she appears
10:53Very disorientated
10:55I didn't really know what was going on to be honest
10:59But we could certainly never ever have imagined what was about to unfold
11:03Calm down
11:07Calm down
11:25I recognize you i know you're not real
11:27Stay still for me stay still because you're hurt come on calm down
11:31They're all coming to reliever here
11:35Ambulances are all on route we've got helicopters on route we're asking for additional patrols
11:41My name's dr latif hussein and on the 17th of may 2008 i got a text message on my phone advising me that being an incident on the m6
11:51When you're driving to the incident your adrenaline is rushing and you you're trying to think of all the scenarios
12:03The only information that i'd received was that there were some pedestrians that being knocked down
12:08No no stay still shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh shh
12:12You're hurt
12:13Fucking asshole
12:14Calm down
12:15Jesus
12:16Calm down
12:16Calm down
12:17I did think she was being unnecessarily aggressive
12:22Fuck you
12:23She's just behind you
12:24She's just behind you
12:25Fuck you
12:26The police officers were there to help and she didn't seem to recognize that so i i'm wondering what's going on in her head
12:32Are you going to steal my fucking organs you bitch what's going to happen to you
12:37Oscar tango 3-3
12:38No it's going to happen to you too
12:41I don't know how she gets it into her head that anybody is going to steal her organs
12:46Is she high on drugs is she delusional was this some kind of suicide pact
13:02I arrived on scene i was made aware that one of the casualties had been hit by a car
13:07But pedestrian versus a hgv is not very good and nine times out of ten
13:13When you look at the speed involved you you'd expect that to be a fatality really
13:20And so my focus was directed towards that casualty
13:31Both the young females have got potentially serious injuries in view of the the actual mechanism of the accident they've ran out
13:37Onto the motorway being hit by one vehicle and clipped another vehicle one of the
13:42Young females has got quite nasty leg injuries
13:49There was a lot of blood and damage to the skin to the bones but despite that i was very surprised that
13:56She was actually conscious under the circumstances i found you know really quite bizarre that this individual
14:02We got certainly limb threatening potentially life threatening injuries but she was very agitated
14:08kicking screaming shouting
14:10She was behaving bizarrely
14:17It's on reflection afterward it was quite strange
14:23Oh i know that my love
14:25Yeah mike alpha i've got one unconscious casualty mine's very aggressive spitting at me she is very badly injured
14:31I don't know what's going on
14:33Word started to get round so that they had been pedestrians on the motorway
14:37It was definitely anger as we approached kickoff time we decided to have the game playing on the radio
14:45I was focused very much on the woman who'd just been hit by the polo
14:50We actually thought that she was dead
14:55Where are you living at the moment have you got an address in the uk
15:01She was just not moving at all it was very difficult to see that but that's what we thought had happened we thought she was dead
15:08Um our plans are at the moment is we need to do some ceiling cries we're going to try and get you guys out of here as quick as possible
15:15Because this is going to be closed for some time now
15:17We sat in the car for
15:20probably 10 15 minutes
15:23And then the next thing was
15:26She she stood up
15:30Stay stay stay
15:33I couldn't believe it because i thought surely she must have serious injuries
15:39That she seemed absolutely fine
15:43Right don't get going anywhere okay just chill chill okay
15:46Try to relax just lie down again
15:49I was amazed that
15:52Sabina was alive
15:55Because it should have been a fatal it was just incredible
15:59Where's paul oh
16:01Shit where's paul
16:03Right stay with me okay stay with me all right
16:07Okay stay where's paul
16:11Stay why do you feel me stay still
16:15Why do you feel me
16:20Fucking hell no no
16:22She just punched the officer she then ran over onto the southbound carriageway
16:31Mike alpha three three get us a closure on the southbound
16:34What on earth are you doing oh my god we're going to have another incident on the opposite carriageway
16:40Stay stay there calm down calm down calm down
16:43And it was unclear to me whether she was actually trying to get away
16:47Or whether she was making another attempt to be run over
16:54Calm down
16:55Yeah
16:55Calm down
16:56Calm down
16:58Calm down
17:01Three three i've got a female fight
17:03Calm down
17:04To me that wasn't really human you don't get run over by a car doing 60 70 on the motorway
17:13And then by another car thrown into the air
17:17Falling unconscious for 10 minutes and then go running over
17:21To try and do it again
17:23That doesn't seem normal
17:28Calm down
17:31Calm down
17:32I didn't really know why she was doing this
17:37One of the police officers had subsequently suggested to me that she might be on drugs
17:43Police grab her
17:44Grab her
17:45You got her
17:46Yeah
17:47Your handcuffs
17:48Handcuffs
17:51And so we ran over it was quite clear that they needed help
17:59We have to get her back home
18:00She's doing it right
18:02No not yet we may do in a minute just bear with us
18:04Just secure her first
18:05No
18:06No
18:06She's not having to get on
18:08How many of you got playing at one time
18:09What do you think
18:10Go on
18:10Try to
18:11Wait a minute
18:11Wait a minute
18:12Wait a minute
18:12Wait a minute
18:12She's gonna be twas
18:13Arms
18:14Arms
18:14Yeah
18:14Arms
18:15Do you want the handcuffs to the front
18:17Yeah she's paying
18:18She's been facing over the crash barrier
18:20On to the north side
18:22Help
18:23Help
18:24I grabbed one of this woman's legs
18:27And the gentleman driving the furniture removal van behind me grabbed the other one
18:33Watch it guys watch it
18:34Down
18:35Legs down
18:35Legs down
18:36Legs down
18:38She kicked him very hard in the chest
18:40And I understand that he broke a rib from that kick
18:43Right we'll get her
18:44As soon as she's over
18:45Down on the deck
18:46Come back
18:47Get her
18:48Get her
18:50I think it took six of us eventually to get any form of restraint
18:53Waving us around like ragdolls on her arms
18:56Okay
18:56Well we get her down
18:57Get her down
18:58We get her handcuffed from behind
18:59Watch her arm
19:01Watch her arm
19:03We're the police
19:05We are the police
19:08The overriding impression that I had
19:12Was that she had superhuman strength
19:15Get out as much as you can
19:18Fuck you guys
19:19Fuck you
19:22I just didn't know where she was getting that strength from
19:26She had been hit by two motor vehicles
19:29Being unconscious for ten minutes
19:31Punched an officer with incredible force
19:34It just seemed to me incredible that
19:38That this woman had so much strength
19:48She got up off the floor
19:50Tried to grab her restrainer
19:51Tried to use his car
19:52She turned around and twatted me
19:53I slipped
19:54It was never a dull moment
19:56As a pedestrian on the motorway
19:57She commits an offence
19:59Keep on her side because of her chest
20:00Bring her legs off
20:02Certainly by getting up and punching me
20:03She's assaulted me
20:05Both of those are offences
20:06For which she can be arrested for
20:08Get moving
20:09You can get gone
20:12Come on
20:13Please
20:14We don't want any more
20:16Possibly about 10,000 people
20:19In about 10 to 15 miles of tailback at the moment
20:22And obviously we're trying to
20:23Get them out as quick as possible
20:24To protect the scene
20:26I know you've got 1500 Wicca Wanderers fans in the backlog
20:28Which
20:29I know
20:29It's unfortunate
20:30I don't know where they've got
20:31No I'm not bothered about it
20:32Yeah
20:32But I wonder
20:33I mean they ain't got crepes of lager on the bus
20:35And crap like that
20:36You can do get them gone really
20:37Highways are going to hopefully treat that as a party
20:39These buses have got football fans
20:44Who could have been drinking
20:50If they start spilling out onto the motorway
20:53It could add even more chaos to a chaotic scene
20:55As a 17 year old back then I do remember thinking
21:01It was like this was purely a selfish act
21:03Obviously there's hundreds of people if not thousands stuck in this traffic jam
21:10Why would someone take this decision to ruin everyone else's day
21:14Run in front of the traffic
21:16Frustration and anger is definitely building at this point
21:19We'll make a decision on air ambulance because we'll have to land that there
21:22Right Martin put the closure on a few hundred yards back clearing these so that air one can land hit
21:27In the sterile at this stage they're not happy to put them in helicopters
21:32But she's unless they rapidly calm down
21:44Because that second woman is being restrained there's nothing more to be done with her from from a filming point of view
21:51So then I realized that I need to catch the helicopter arriving because that's a significant moment
22:07So i'm darren lapping a paramedic i was working on the air ambulance and we were called to an incident on the m6
22:13I can quite clearly remember the traffic must have been nearly a 10 mile tailback on the motorway
22:28But we got an idea that there was obviously two casualties separated by sort of 20 meters or so
22:34So one was about to be loaded into the back of the the land ambulance
22:42And then to the girl that was shouting a little bit and i do recall
22:46As i approached she did spit sort of like ready color
22:52Basically the decision was made to sedate her
22:55At the moment both have been treated as life threatening injuries the lady who was behind me
23:03Was run over by a 44 ton lorry three rear wheels actual wheels have gone over the top of her
23:09So the bones themselves you could see the tissue had been torn away from it
23:14The bone itself was snapped completely in half and you could see the underlying tissue and muscle
23:20I've been to cases where unfortunately they have not survived they've literally gone with the lorry
23:27Got onto the drive prop shaft and literally being torn to bits so she was very lucky
23:34i watched it go under
23:35The arty yeah the fact that the weight of the lorry that it hadn't crushed her eternal organs her head or anything
23:43that it only caught her legs
23:47Was in a way it was almost a miracle in itself
23:51to have the kind of aggression combativeness
23:55it does occur quite a lot with head injuries so that was my initial thought
24:01i'm then considering why has she ran onto the motorway and as she now under the influence of alcohol
24:07but also has she taken some form of drug and then the final thing i'm considering is
24:12is this potentially some sort of mental health illness
24:16we decided she didn't have mental capacity that was one of the reasons why we decided
24:20sedate her
24:23there's always a risk when you're actually giving drugs to individuals
24:27especially if you don't know what the the history or the background or whether they
24:30have taken other drugs or substances
24:33you have to really weigh up the benefits against a potential risk
24:38to be honest one of the isu's guys said they're on a coach very protective of the bags
24:43and wouldn't let the coach drive put them down below and he says with the way they're acting
24:47could they be mewling
24:48they're going to be mewling
24:49they're going to be mewling
24:51which to be honest
24:55not a bad consideration is it
24:57no you're right
24:58i thought they were probably on something but if they were drug mules it doesn't why did they
25:04get off the bus at keel services and then why did they walk along the central reservation it
25:10doesn't make any sense that they were drug mules because they were going to get picked up and then
25:15they could have got they could have got checked out
25:23the lady with the more serious injuries was transferred to the air ambulance and was
25:28transported to the emergency department at royal stoke university hospital
25:36the other lady who was hit by the car she was transported via land ambulance to the
25:42emergency department at royal stoke university hospital from the behavior of this individual
25:49that there were concerns about her mental health but nobody really could have predicted
25:55you know what transpired after this
26:12the emergency department at royal infirmary in stoke
26:24my name is paul hollinsed
26:28in 2008 i was working at the royal infirmary in stoke in the a&e department we got everything under the sun
26:36coming through some of the nursing staff told me that they'd had two swedish women in the department
26:47one got hit by a lorry and the other one got hit by a car
26:53some people come in and they are abusive but you try and help them they don't want it and in particular
27:03one was causing so much trouble
27:07refusing treatment screaming shouting the other one had been severely hurt and was
27:15going for an operation and then transferred to a ward
27:19the doctor was so fed up of her behavior causing mary hell that uh he said i want her out of here they had to ask
27:34the police to remove her
27:35so don't worry about my safety i'll be all right yeah i think she's calmed down now
27:472-1-a at the hospital
27:50for me as a as a documentary filmmaker i still felt that i had to follow this story
27:58i was aware that the second woman had been taken into hospital and checked and was apparently okay
28:08so then she was going to be taken to the police station where she was going to be charged
28:15normally if you come in and you've got a head injury especially if you've been knocked unconscious
28:23and you've been knocked down by a car you have a period where you have to be observed
28:29and i thought there was a 72 hour time for observing people because you don't know what's going to
28:36evolve from that injury i was quite surprised she was removed
28:47well we made okay money here sabrina come and sit in the car
28:55yeah yeah
28:56when the woman emerged from the hospital and got in the car it was clear she'd been discharged from
29:11the hospital with only minor injuries which was amazing really considering that she'd bounced off
29:17the windscreen of a volkswagen polo
29:19so there's custody hello there it's pc elliott from the central motorway police
29:28all right we're bringing a lady in from an incident on the motorway earlier this afternoon
29:34uh she's a swedish national but she speaks very good english when you open the newspaper here
29:40you feel yes like you don't know if you should laugh or cry for them or pray for them when you open
29:48the paper you laugh it was strange being in the back of the car she wasn't bothered about me filming
29:57anymore whereas she previously on the motorway she was saying why are you filming why are you filming
30:03and so she was different sabrina you no broken bones i think you're going to be
30:10a bit of yeah concerning you're going to be very bruised and sore that's all right that's all right
30:18you know i'm a licensed boxer are you yes i am i'm used with that even if it's i'm out of shape now really
30:26so what what what are you doing over in ireland then huh what job are you doing over in ireland oh i just
30:32find found a crappy job you know in the the start-up you know yeah she was quite chatty and friendly
30:42her demeanor was totally different than it had been on the motorway and it was difficult to believe
30:47really hi police off the motorway okay we'll throw that away when we get in there yeah
31:02when she was in the station although she appeared to be normal there was something a little bit odd
31:11about her but it's not something i could put my finger on we have to wait not have some thing that
31:17i can put on not the moment have a seat because we can't do anything until we get in there
31:22how old you are there guys are difficult
31:32you're looking at how many wrinkles yes of course
31:37with her it clearly worked to be gentle with her to if you like to flirt with how old am i yeah
31:42probably around his best age yeah 45 oh yeah 44 you got it 45 45
31:53time for rest please it was 15 30 hours today
31:57the reason for the rest is the heading uh assault police
32:02do you suffer any mental health problems or from depression no sir i don't
32:06have you ever tried to harm yourself no it's a good idea was it the custody sergeant asks her
32:18if she's ever harmed herself and she says no sir it's a bit ironic because you just have tried to harm
32:26yourself on the m6 why are you saying that
32:33can you suck your shoes off for me they are so dirty and smelly and they found only one sucks for me
32:41try not to breathe then
32:44i'm just going to take your ring off yourself please and your jewelry and put it on
32:48do i have to take it out yeah you do
32:49do you want to take it off please yes no you can't you need to take it off and put it on my
32:56all right it's the little things that seem to bother her as opposed to the what you would think
33:02are the big things you're booking her in saying she's assaulted a police officer and all she's worried
33:07about is what she's going to wear and how she looks and that's surprised me from start to finish
33:15dealing with her i don't think she knew anything that had gone on she either didn't care or couldn't
33:36remember one of the roles that the police have to play is the safety of whoever is in custody
33:51their first thought is are there any relatives that we can contact to tell them what's happened
33:56are you their eldest sister or younger sister older sister okay mona uh sabina is fine but ursula is
34:08quite quite badly injured in hospital it would seem that they ran out into traffic on a busy motorway
34:17have you yeah when was the last time you spoke to your sisters crikey yeah sabina has children
34:33i didn't know that are they living in sweden
34:38okay but will you be able to tell your mum do you think
34:41okay all right then well thank you for your help mona okay thank you bye-bye
34:53well yeah it seems well thankfully she speaks excellent english she's really had no contact
34:59other than internet uh for an year for a few years but it seems like the two sisters basically travel the
35:07world and i don't know if they've been problems with mum but mum hasn't spoken to them for about 12
35:13years apparently so um so very odd i've just read the statements of one of the officers and
35:21they talk about the formidable strength of them as if they are there is something within their systems
35:30that's not right i mean the girl i spoke to in custody
35:34there's no resemblance to the girl described in the officer's statement
35:44after the scene was cleared i was actually on call for staffordshire police as a forensic medical examiner
35:55our role is to assess prisoners that come into the custody suite
36:00to see if they're fit to be detained and also if they're fit for interview as well
36:06initially when i arrived at the custody suite i didn't know who i was seeing but when the
36:10individual was brought in i realized that it was actually the lady that had been knocked down by the
36:15the car after my assessment of sabina erickson i advised the police that she was fit to be detained
36:22okay but everybody got a lot and a lot of it where you come from although sabina and ursula's
36:32behavior does appear to indicate that they might have been under the influence of some sort of drugs
36:37ursula was tested in the hospital and sabina at the police station there were no drugs found in
36:43their system no drugs or drug paraphernalia found in their backs
36:57so
37:10sabina was held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged with trespass on the motorway
37:19and assaulting a police officer
37:24sabina erickson was convicted and sentenced to one day in custody which she'd already served
37:32so she was released from the magistrates court and sent on her way
37:40there are so many unanswered questions around this case when they stopped at kale services why would
37:49they not put their bags back in the hold of the coach were they being influenced by somebody else was
37:59somebody putting pressure on them also why were they both trying to run in front of traffic on the m6
38:10what was causing this extreme behavior
38:14i could never have imagined the kind of thing that sabina would do based on her behavior at the police
38:29station
38:41i don't think it occurred to me at the time that she should have been detained for a long period of time
38:48but the fact that she was capable of decking a police officer indicated that she had some kind of
38:55violence streaked her her actions her behavior demonstrated that she wasn't safe police have
39:06launched a murder inquiry into a 54-year-old man found stabbed to death behind his home
39:11attempted
39:34the other one she's gonna run
39:35after the incident on the m6 where they were running into oncoming traffic
39:48and causing mayhem on the motorway
39:53ursula was taken to hospital with a serious leg injury
39:57ursula was arrested held in custody for two nights and was taken to court and charged with trespass on
40:14the motorway and assaulting a police officer the judge said she had to serve a day in prison which
40:21she'd already done so she left the magistrates court with her things in a clear plastic bag
40:32she was seen wandering the streets of fenton
40:37sabina is a foreign national in a country she doesn't know and she would have been confused as to
40:44where to go
40:47sleek and dismal around there there's nothing to help you it would have been scary and frightening to
40:57be on her own without anybody to reach out to or to help her in that situation
41:05her sister obviously had been taken to hospital
41:09and she would have had no idea how to even reach out to her sister
41:17sabina made her way somehow towards duke street which is near not far from the courthouse at all
41:25she was on that journey when she met my brother
41:40my brother dlen and his friend peter often went to the pub and sat in the beer garden
41:46he had to sit there because of his dog which he took everywhere with him he idolized it
41:56and i'm not sure what time they left
42:01but on the way home is when sabina apparently approached and said what a lovely dog
42:08and then spun a story about a sister being in a car crash and she was looking for somewhere to stay
42:25so glenn decides that he can help sabina because his brother works in an a and e
42:30so glenn peter and sabina go back to glenn's house on duke street
42:38and her personality sort of opened up she was a lot more bubbly and friendly and she seemed happy
42:47to be talking to us as we carried her stuff down to ward's glenn's house
42:51two mobile phones a laptop and duty-free cigarettes and there was this red wool cardigan
43:00and walking down and thinking this is a little what's going on here who is she something's not
43:06lies about this woman glenn always sided with the underdog
43:14sometimes he might be overzealous and get involved in situations that he would have been
43:18better to stay away from
43:22if i'd known the story about the m6 like an award glenn
43:26her and her sister run onto the road
43:33the defense diagnosis was folia due a french term meaning the madness of two
43:41how can someone catch a mental illness of somebody if i'd been working
43:47they'd blend ring me up and tell me he's got a swedish woman there i could have warned him be very
43:52careful she's very dangerous yeah i could have warned him i didn't get the chance
44:08if you or someone you know has been affected by any of your
44:24experience
44:27stay there for the concluding part of twisted sisters next
44:31Stay there for the concluding part of Twisted Sisters next.
44:35And if you or someone you know has been affected by any of the issues raised in tonight's programme,
44:40please go to channel5.com slash helplines for information and support.
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