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00:00Hello and welcome to Sorry I Didn't Know.
00:16I'm Chizia Kudulu, your beloved barber of the bygone,
00:19shaping up faded facts and snipping the split ends of botched biographies.
00:25I bring you history with a touch of colour.
00:28To my right, with a trim so sharp you could cut yourself,
00:34it's Richard Blackwood!
00:37Richard, who's joining you tonight?
00:41Let me tell you something.
00:42With me tonight is a comedian who I'm calling one of the best things
00:45to come out of the West Midlands.
00:47It's his Lindsay Santoro!
00:49And also on my team is a man who I met at a university
00:55that he used to go to.
00:57My son, right, to perform because I couldn't get a babysitter.
01:01Right?
01:02This man here was hosting the show the first time I saw him perform
01:05and he tore it down.
01:06Please make some noise for the always funny, Uri Styler.
01:09Come on.
01:11And to my left, the original old man in the corner of the barber shop,
01:17it's Eddie Caddy!
01:19Who's helping you out, Eddie?
01:23Now, to my left is a comedian known for the match report
01:26whose comedy once got him heckled at a posh charity lunch.
01:29But my guy is here to kill it tonight.
01:31It's Nish Kumar!
01:32Woo!
01:33Yeah!
01:34And also on my team is a member of one of the biggest boy bands
01:39in Britain.
01:40A singer, TV presenter and a former!
01:43Bet you weren't expecting that.
01:44It's the one and only, the talented J.B. Gill!
01:48Come on!
01:49APPLAUSE
01:52Welcome to you all.
01:53Nish, tell us more about this charity lunch.
01:56Er, I was doing a charity lunch for a cricket charity
02:00and so the audience was, I don't want to say white,
02:03because they weren't, they were sort of red.
02:05There was just a lot of like, I don't know what it is about
02:08a certain demographic of upper-class white English man.
02:11But all of the blood in their body tries to leave it via their face.
02:15And so I was doing some jokes that were not playing well with them
02:19and then I said, well, I guess this is what happens
02:22when I perform for a room full of people largely descended
02:25from people who colonised my ancestors.
02:27Oh!
02:28Which I would say didn't help.
02:29And then one man stood up and shouted, that was ages ago.
02:33LAUGHTER
02:36Wow!
02:39J.B.
02:40Yes.
02:41From JLS to being a farmer.
02:43Yeah.
02:44What's been the biggest challenge on the farm?
02:46Er, of course.
02:47Transitioning from music entertainment into farming,
02:50there's a lot of learning to be done.
02:52When we first got our pigs, I hadn't had my children yet,
02:55so I'd never ever experienced what birth was like.
02:57So I'm thinking in my head, just be there on hand
03:01to do what you've got to do.
03:02So I tried to do that.
03:04Literally tried to jump into the pen with the pig,
03:06it was all set up with the heat lamp there, you've got the water,
03:08everything was good.
03:10Scared for my life.
03:11LAUGHTER
03:12I actually thought I was going to be murdered.
03:13She tried to attack you?
03:14She tried to attack me.
03:15Oh, wow.
03:16You know what?
03:17She's lucky because if it was me, I would have come in there
03:18with a knife and fork us and be ape silk.
03:19LAUGHTER
03:21Moving on to Richard's team.
03:24Lindsay, so you did Live at the Apollo at the start of the year.
03:28How did your nerves hold up?
03:30I was fine, actually.
03:31The worst bit is you have to stand behind the Apollo sign
03:35and they fill the back with smoke.
03:38And you've got some poor lad called Ben just saying,
03:41Stand still! Stand still! Stand still!
03:43And then they lift the sign.
03:45You can't see the sign go up, though.
03:46You just have to put faith in Ben that it's gone.
03:49And then he'll say walk and you just walk out like you've had
03:52about 20 vapes at once and you just go out and try and do
03:55some comedy.
03:56But I think this is more stressful because I'm sat next to two
03:59very buff boys and I feel like I'm just here like a little
04:03melted souffle.
04:05LAUGHTER
04:06Ori.
04:07Hey.
04:08You've just finished a world tour and I'm told you were
04:10surprised by the travel perks.
04:11Yeah, so any time I've travelled to do shows or just for
04:14vacation, I've always just flown, like, normal economy.
04:17But we built up enough points for one of the flights that we
04:20were able to upgrade and it was between Dubai to New Zealand
04:24and I upgraded to business.
04:26Never done that before in my life.
04:27I walked on there and everybody that saw me were confused.
04:31To see me walking...
04:32Because I'm just in, like, sweats and stuff.
04:34They felt...
04:35Even though I felt upgraded, like, you could see they felt downgraded.
04:38With my...
04:39LAUGHTER
04:40I'm the inferior.
04:41I don't drink.
04:42But as soon as you walk on, they've got the air hostess with, like,
04:44a tray with the champagne flutes.
04:47I don't drink, remember?
04:48I took two of them, went back to my little suit.
04:50LAUGHTER
04:51I started posing for Instagram like a baddie, you know.
04:53LAUGHTER
04:56Please give it up for our amazing guests.
04:58CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
05:00This round is called This Was When.
05:07For this one, our teams will be shown a moment from history
05:10captioned in a photograph.
05:12They just need to tell me what's happening.
05:14OK, feet on buzzers.
05:16Here we go.
05:17What's happening here?
05:20JB.
05:21That is when you open up the Rice Krispie packet...
05:25LAUGHTER
05:27..and there's a random Coco Pop in there.
05:30LAUGHTER
05:31I'm just saying.
05:32As soon as you said right, I knew exactly what he was going to say.
05:35LAUGHTER
05:36LAUGHTER
05:37Yeah, I know right.
05:38APPLAUSE
05:39Richard.
05:40This was the original, we're not racist, I've got a black friend.
05:44LAUGHTER
05:45Nish.
05:46Is that the first ever University Prospectus cover?
05:50LAUGHTER
05:51No.
05:52Lindsay.
05:53I think that the Dunlop bag has probably seen more action
05:56than any of the people in that world.
05:58LAUGHTER
05:59That's the first ever meeting of the Diversity and Inclusion Department
06:04at the airport.
06:05LAUGHTER
06:06Richard.
06:07His name is Winston.
06:09LAUGHTER
06:10Winston's the original, where is Wally?
06:13LAUGHTER
06:14Where is Winston?
06:16Me can't find you.
06:17You see you?
06:18Me can't find you.
06:19LAUGHTER
06:20I'm going to give you the answer, do you know?
06:22Go on, Eddie.
06:23They're at the airport, yeah, I'm looking at this.
06:25Is this like a flight is about to happen?
06:28Because I'm seeing Dunlop, so maybe I'm thinking tennis.
06:30Maybe it's the first tennis or sporting team to fly somewhere.
06:33I'm going to give you the point.
06:34Give it to me.
06:35Oh, wow.
06:36Give you the point.
06:37APPLAUSE
06:38This was when the England youth table tennis team
06:41headed to Beijing for a tour in 1973.
06:44The only black man pictured is Jamaican-born Desmond Douglas.
06:49Come on.
06:50He represented Team GB at the Olympics in Seoul 1988
06:54and still coaches to this day.
06:56Nice.
06:57APPLAUSE
06:59OK, what's going on in this image?
07:01BUZZER
07:03Lindsay.
07:04Is it the reason HR was invented?
07:06LAUGHTER
07:09Where is that man's right hand?
07:11LAUGHTER
07:14Eddie.
07:15I think she was the first black woman to achieve something
07:18in that studio and that looks like a celebration of some sort.
07:21It just looks like it's the first time it's happened
07:23and they all can't believe it.
07:24That is correct.
07:25This was when journalist Barbara Blake-Hannah
07:28became the first black female reporter on British TV in 1968.
07:33Unfortunately, just nine months into her role,
07:36her time at Thames Television came to a sudden end
07:39as racist viewers couldn't handle seeing her on their screens.
07:42What?
07:43Teams, what's the story here?
07:47These guys have come and made it clear
07:49we've come to collect our lions.
07:51LAUGHTER
07:54Is that the Daily Mail's worst nightmare?
08:00LAUGHTER
08:01When no-one left a full-on
08:04I am legend of white people in England?
08:07Even the pigeons are racist.
08:09Look at them.
08:10LAUGHTER
08:11They're like...
08:13LAUGHTER
08:15LAUGHTER
08:16JB.
08:17That is filming on set for the Black Reservoir Dogs.
08:21Mad.
08:22Love that.
08:23Richard?
08:24These are the first five that said,
08:26Mm-mm, too cool, man.
08:27Stay at home.
08:28LAUGHTER
08:29Don't come.
08:30Don't come over.
08:31No.
08:32This was when the African-American acapella ensemble Fisk
08:35toured Europe in 1925.
08:37Wow.
08:38They were raising money for Fisk University,
08:40which was a historically black college in Tennessee.
08:42They were so good, the singers were requested to perform before Queen Victoria and King George V.
08:49Impressive, right?
08:50Yeah.
08:511925.
08:52Don't play with it.
08:53You know what?
08:54They were undercover.
08:55As soon as they were done, they took the lines.
08:57LAUGHTER
08:58And the winner of that round is...
09:01Eddie's team!
09:03APPLAUSE
09:08Our next round is...
09:09I didn't say that.
09:10The round where we elevate black voices and use what they say for our quotes.
09:15For this one, our teams will be presented with an unfinished quote from a melanated person and all they have to do is complete it.
09:21Richard, your team is at first.
09:23Mm.
09:24I'm rooting for blank.
09:26I do think I know this one.
09:28I think you should say because I think it would be the right thing to do.
09:30We need points.
09:31I don't like the fact that Eddie's team is winning.
09:33Eddie does his thing when he wins.
09:34He goes, you know what?
09:35Let me just shake everyone's head in front of me.
09:36LAUGHTER
09:37And I don't like it.
09:38I'm connecting with my team.
09:39I understand.
09:40But it feels like you're doing it to rub it in our faces.
09:42I am too.
09:43Yeah.
09:44Is it Everybody Black by Issa Rae?
09:45Yeah.
09:46Correct.
09:47Come on.
09:48Don't play with it.
09:49Come on.
09:50I'm rooting for Everybody Black was a quote taken from Issa Rae on the red carpet of the 2017 Emmys while discussing the recognition of black talent at the awards show.
10:03Eddie's team, we have to talk about blank.
10:06We have to talk about how a woman could be at a party with her man, just the two of them.
10:11Go to the toilet and come back with 50 new friends.
10:14How do you lot do it?
10:16You think that's all in that space?
10:19Yes.
10:20We need to do about the kind of women you're hanging out with.
10:23LAUGHTER
10:24I feel like it's a word.
10:26It's like quite a poignant word.
10:27Vision.
10:28Belief.
10:29I don't know.
10:30You're a songwriter.
10:31Keep going.
10:32Yeah.
10:33Um...
10:34Breathe again.
10:35Come on.
10:36LAUGHTER
10:37We have to talk about how we all need to unite as one human race.
10:42OK, I'm going to give you half a point.
10:44Half a point.
10:45Wait, that got half a point.
10:46Relax, Mr Business Class.
10:47That's half a point.
10:48The answer is we have to talk about liberating minds as well as liberating society.
10:53You never said nothing about liberate.
10:55Listen, if you don't unite, how are you liberating?
11:00LAUGHTER
11:01As a society.
11:02Yeah, man.
11:03These were the words of American activist and philosopher Angela Davis discussing the education
11:09and prison complex in the 1970s.
11:12Yeah.
11:13Richard, this is yours.
11:15Mm-hm.
11:16Everybody has a plan until blank.
11:18Until they get punched in the face.
11:19Yeah.
11:20It's correct.
11:21LAUGHTER
11:23Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth, said by Mike Tyson,
11:27the first heavyweight boxer to simultaneously hold the WBA, WBC and IBF titles.
11:33That's what they said.
11:34You get punched in the mouth.
11:35You start with me, I'm going to punch you in your mouth real hard.
11:37He started quiet.
11:38I said, what are you quiet for?
11:39Stop quiet.
11:40LAUGHTER
11:41It's not laughing.
11:42It's not funny.
11:43Stop laughing.
11:44That is scaringly accurate.
11:46I want to give you an extra point, but I'm not allowed.
11:49Eddie, your quote is, embrace what makes you unique, even if blank.
11:55Hmm.
11:56Even if it's really fucking weird.
11:58LAUGHTER
11:59Erm, embrace what makes you unique, even if it makes you look stupid.
12:04Mm.
12:05I'm going to give you half a point.
12:07OK.
12:08The full quote is, embrace what makes you unique, even if it makes others uncomfortable.
12:12That was a quote from American singer, Janelle Monae, not only unique, but comfortable in her own skin.
12:18Yeah.
12:19APPLAUSE
12:20And the winner of that round is...
12:25Richard's team!
12:26CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
12:31And just like that, we've come hurtling towards the break.
12:34But while you await our return, see if you can figure out this word.
12:37Find out the answer after the break.
12:40APPLAUSE
12:41Welcome back to Sorry I Didn't Know.
12:55Before the break, I gave you this phrase to figure out.
12:58This is an Afro, a scent and a trick.
13:01Afrocentric.
13:02Mm.
13:03A world view or approach that centres around the history, culture and experiences of people of African descent.
13:09APPLAUSE
13:11Now to our next round.
13:14She's the originator of humanity.
13:16Every museum wants a piece of her and many of us can't wait to return.
13:20It's Mama Africa!
13:22APPLAUSE
13:24No one's helping me down?
13:25No?
13:26OK.
13:27LAUGHTER
13:28The African has come by now, innit?
13:29Yeah, no.
13:30Nobody wants to help me.
13:31I'm no longer British.
13:32In this round, I'll ask our team captains questions based on the continent of Africa.
13:47The theme of tonight's round is the landscape.
13:50Eddie, you are up first.
13:52Which country is known as the land of a thousand hills?
13:55A thousand hills?
13:57OK, which is the biggest one?
13:59Right.
14:00Your country, DRC.
14:01Yes.
14:02DRC is massive.
14:03I'm glad we have some facts about it because I was worried you were going to say Ali Pali.
14:06So this is a great start.
14:07A thousand hills.
14:09DRC is known for hills, but we also have a country that has a lot of mountain gorillas.
14:18Ooh.
14:19Which one is that?
14:20Rwanda.
14:21Could the clue be in the name, though?
14:23Equatory Hill?
14:24Hey!
14:25Oh, no, JP.
14:26No.
14:27LAUGHTER
14:28No.
14:29JP.
14:30Breathe again.
14:31Breathe again.
14:32LAUGHTER
14:33That was good, though.
14:38That was lyrical.
14:39LAUGHTER
14:40I'm confident.
14:41Yeah.
14:42That it is...
14:43Why are you laughing in this?
14:46It's because you said I'm confident and then looked at both of them and went, I am.
14:50LAUGHTER
14:51I'm confident.
14:52So, yes, we are going for the fun.
14:56Rwanda.
14:57Rwanda.
14:58OK.
14:59I'm so convinced that Eddie knows what he was talking about.
15:03Just put it on tap.
15:04Is that a possibility or is it somewhere else?
15:07LAUGHTER
15:08The worst that could happen is that none of us get a point, or the best that could happen
15:11is that we both do.
15:12Yeah.
15:13And we'd be in the same position that we're in.
15:14Because I'll be honest, I have no idea where the land of a thousand hills is.
15:17And you know what else, just to add to that, why I'm also going to go Rwanda?
15:21Is if it's wrong, you should be ashamed of your...
15:24LAUGHTER
15:25So, what I'm going to do is I'm going to be polite and...
15:28I'm Rwanda.
15:29Here we go.
15:30OK.
15:31The correct answer is Rwanda.
15:38The country's nickname accurately reflects Rwanda's volcanic mountain valleys and rolling hills.
15:44Well done.
15:45APPLAUSE
15:47Richardson, where is home to a structure that can be seen from space?
15:52You sure you don't want Eddie to go first?
15:54No, don't.
15:55OK.
15:56It's your turn.
15:57Well, I think you can see the pyramids from space.
16:00Which is Egypt.
16:02Can you see the pyramids from space?
16:03I've never been to Czech, but I've been home.
16:06If you can see the pyramids from space, I don't know what other buildings are taller than that.
16:12I am going to go with Egypt because I believe in my people.
16:17And if I get this right as a Jamaican, shame on you.
16:21Mm-hm.
16:22All right, Lindsay.
16:23OK, thank you, Jamaican.
16:25Let's try that one.
16:26LAUGHTER
16:27Eddie.
16:28So, my constituency.
16:32I'm finding this all quite ironic because this is basically how the Europeans divided up Africa.
16:37LAUGHTER
16:40Right?
16:41Oh, no.
16:42The reason I'm thinking the pyramids is just, you know, it makes a lot of sense.
16:47Yeah.
16:48So, when he said pyramids, a lot of the audience went, yeah, it's the pyramids.
16:52LAUGHTER
16:53But also, when we're talking about the pyramid, there's actually a lot more pyramids in Sudan than there is in Egypt.
16:59Mm.
17:00Oh.
17:01I think you should go with Sudan.
17:02LAUGHTER
17:03No, because you sold it so well.
17:04Yeah.
17:05I think we're saying you should go with Sudan.
17:07All I know right...
17:08Yes, mate.
17:09..is...
17:10Tell me everything, you know, not...
17:11Yes.
17:12Everybody that's in these red chairs...
17:15Yes.
17:16..you've been to the most African countries.
17:18Yeah.
17:19But I haven't been to Sudan.
17:21Right.
17:22LAUGHTER
17:23That helps.
17:24LAUGHTER
17:25I feel like it's Sudan.
17:26The Croydon lads support you 100%.
17:28Oh, we just go...
17:30Hello, my people.
17:32OK.
17:33The country is Mauritania.
17:35LAUGHTER
17:36All of that, Eddie.
17:37Listen, listen.
17:38We are here to educate.
17:39LAUGHTER
17:40But what is the structure, my sister?
17:41Situated in North West Africa, Mauritania is home to the Rikkat structure, also known as the Eye of the Sahara, a geological rock formation which can be seen all the way from space.
18:03Eddie's team.
18:05Which African country's capital city has the highest altitude?
18:09Ooh.
18:10Mm.
18:11That's a good question.
18:12Whoa.
18:13I feel like it's definitely in the southern part.
18:15Southern part?
18:16Yes.
18:17I feel like I'm just giving these people confidence.
18:19Not at all, cos you got it wrong.
18:20Cos this...
18:21This high altitude track.
18:22See?
18:23Kenyans.
18:24Yes.
18:25Yes.
18:26Where do they all go and train?
18:27Why do they go there?
18:28I was saying, high altitude training, when people go and do like, you know, the athlete...
18:32Yeah, he knows more about Africa than you do.
18:34But you said the capital city, yeah?
18:37So then now we're talking Nairobi being...
18:39Yeah.
18:40My mum was born in Nairobi and she can't run for shit.
18:43LAUGHTER
18:48I feel like we should be in the southern or south somewhere.
18:50Yeah.
18:51All right, let's go.
18:52Yeah, I'm happy to go with that.
18:53So we're going to go South Africa, Botswana region.
18:56OK.
18:57Richard, your team.
18:58I can't help you.
19:00LAUGHTER
19:01I want to help you.
19:02But I can only think of Madagascar.
19:04I was going to say Madagascar.
19:05The animals went there and they were safe.
19:07So they must have there.
19:09LAUGHTER
19:10APPLAUSE
19:12In the film.
19:13You both said Madagascar.
19:15But I don't mean anything.
19:17LAUGHTER
19:18What are you going to say?
19:19I'm happy to go with Madagascar.
19:21You weren't going to say nothing.
19:23At this point, no.
19:24Is Mozambique or Madagascar?
19:26Go for Madagascar, let's have a laugh.
19:28Come on.
19:29Let's go for Madagascar.
19:30Let's have a laugh.
19:31Let's just do Madagascar.
19:32There we go.
19:33It's wrong, but we'll have a laugh.
19:34OK.
19:35The answer is Ethiopia.
19:37Oh!
19:38Which, of course, has the capital city of Addis Ababa,
19:41which is 2,355 metres above sea level.
19:45Wow.
19:46That's seven times higher than the Shard.
19:47Wow.
19:48It's enough to make you lose your breath.
19:49Oh, I learnt something.
19:51APPLAUSE
19:52And for that round, it's a draw.
19:54APPLAUSE
20:01Sadly, we've come to our final round.
20:04General choppiness.
20:06I'll ask our teams quick-fire questions
20:08and they need to buzz in if they think they know the answer.
20:11First question.
20:12Who headlined the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show?
20:15Nish.
20:16Kendrick Lamar.
20:17Correct.
20:18Whose song features the lyrics?
20:19It wasn't me.
20:21Shaggy.
20:22Oh, correct.
20:23Who ended their 2020 Brits performance saying,
20:26we still need support for the Windrush?
20:28Eddie.
20:29Dave.
20:30Correct.
20:31The first show garnered by black female designer Juliette Sargent
20:33won gold in 2016 at which horticultural event?
20:37Lindsay.
20:38The Chelsea Flower Show.
20:39Correct.
20:40Goat water is the national dish of which Caribbean island?
20:43JB.
20:44Montserrat.
20:45Correct.
20:46Time's up.
20:47And at the end of that round, the winner is Eddie's team.
20:52CHEERING
20:53Which means the winner of tonight's show is also Eddie's team.
20:58CHEERING
21:00Thank you to tonight's teams, Ori Styler, Lindsay Santoro, team leader Richard Blackwood,
21:10Nish Kumar, JB Gill and team leader Eddie Caddy.
21:15Environmentalist and Nobel Peace Prize winner Wangari Mai Tai once said,
21:20it's the little things citizens do.
21:22Ask what will make the difference.
21:24My little thing is planting trees.
21:26So go plant your little thing.
21:29A seed, an idea, a well-placed comment or come back in a work meeting.
21:34Whatever grows.
21:35Just don't get yourself fired.
21:37Goodnight.
21:40APPLAUSE
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