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Greta Gerwig on Learning to Direct: "I Learned I Could Do It" by Doing It | Director Roundtable
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Gerwig credits the directors and cinematographers she worked with as an actor who took her under their wing to teach her the mechanics of filmmaking.
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What did you learn from directing your first film?
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Well, I learned that I could do it.
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I mean, I think I thought I could do it,
00:10
but I think you don't quite know
00:12
until you're on the other end of something like that
00:14
that you can do it completely.
00:17
You sort of have to take the leap
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and hope that there's a parachute attached.
00:22
I mean, one part of my experience of being,
00:25
of learning how to direct
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was being on film sets as an actor.
00:28
But I've been so lucky to be on different sets
00:32
with different directors and DPs
00:34
and all of these different people
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who took me under their wing
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and explained to me what they were doing,
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how they were lighting a scene,
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where they were putting the booms,
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how we were actually getting it.
00:44
I always hear about guys
00:45
whose parents got them little Super 8 cameras
00:48
and they started making films.
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And I mean, I'm sure my parents would have gotten me them
00:54
if I had asked for it,
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but it wasn't something that you gave girls as much.
00:58
But what I did was put on plays with everyone I knew.
01:02
And I would put on plays with my friends.
01:05
It's still a very male-oriented business.
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Did that make it hard to get a very female-centered film
01:11
off the ground with Lady Bird?
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Yes.
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How hard was it to get off the ground?
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Well, I mean, it's a female-centered film
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that is not important with a capital I
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that people could identify as,
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oh, this is worthy.
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This is Wonder Woman.
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Or just that it didn't,
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it's about people's lives in a quotidian way.
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It's not about something so large.
01:36
And I feel like as a writer and as a director,
01:39
I'm picking up little tiny pebbles.
01:40
I wish that you liked me.
01:44
Of course I love you.
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But do you like me?
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I want you to be
01:56
the very best version of yourself that you can be.
02:01
What if this is the best version?
02:03
When I was taking this script around
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and because it's a love story
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between a mother and a daughter,
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I remember every man I talked to
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who was raised with sisters
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or who had a daughter said,
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I know this.
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That's my wife and my daughter
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or that's my sister and my mom.
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And guys who didn't,
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they said,
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I don't do women fight like this.
02:30
Oh, wow.
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I was like,
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oh, you've never seen this.
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Because why would you know
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that this is what this relationship is?
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That being said,
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I mean, I did,
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once it happened,
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I was not asked to change
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what the script was at all.
02:47
Greta, what about you?
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What would you do if you left film?
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Well, I mean,
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my first love was actually
03:01
theater more than anything else,
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theater and dance.
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And I didn't know movies
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were made by people.
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I thought they were handed down from gods.
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I didn't,
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I mean, I genuinely,
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I knew people must have made them,
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but I didn't know who they were.
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And it wasn't until
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I was an adult
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that I realized that,
03:20
oh, these are made by people.
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And part of it was
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I started watching films
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that weren't products.
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They had personality behind them.
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And I hadn't really seen quite that.
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Like, in New York,
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there's Film Forum
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and Anthology Film Archives
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and Museum of Moving Image.
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And I started to see
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these very particular,
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strange movies
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that I wasn't totally sure
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what to make of.
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But they felt like,
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I remember the first time
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I saw
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Tropical Malady,
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the Apichat Pong film.
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Where is that?
03:53
Yeah.
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Yeah, and I thought
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it made me angry
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because it's a bifurcated structure
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and I'd never seen anything like it.
04:00
I was like,
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what is this?
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It's clear to me
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that it's clear to him,
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but I can't figure it out.
04:07
And I went back
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again and again
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and I had the same experience
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with,
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we were talking about
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Claire Denis' film,
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Bo Trevay.
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I sort of couldn't,
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but I saw it,
04:17
I suddenly saw it as art
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and as made by people.
04:20
I knew that
04:27
when things came up
04:29
that were problems
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or difficulties
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or something went awry,
04:32
that that was not
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a deviation from the path,
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that that was the path.
04:37
And I had that.
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And that,
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for me,
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that was very helpful
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because it didn't feel like,
04:43
oh God,
04:43
the whole thing
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is going to fall apart.
04:45
It was like,
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that is,
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that is what it's going to be.
04:48
We're going to lose this location
04:49
and this person,
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it won't work
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and we're going to have
04:51
to move this around.
04:51
But it didn't,
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in that way,
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I didn't have a moment of like,
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I had no idea
04:56
that this was going to happen.
04:58
I had a much,
04:59
I think,
05:00
more strong sense of
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the problems are the road.
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That's what it's saying
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is the obstacle is the path.
05:09
Yes.
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And always,
05:09
the obstacle gives you solutions
05:11
that you find
05:12
far more interesting
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and far more crazy.
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It's there for a reason.
05:18
Take care.
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Bye.
05:19
Bye.
05:19
Bye.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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Bye.
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